Elijah Craig 18 Year Single Barrel

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  • @Caliban_80
    @Caliban_80 4 роки тому +16

    Great honest review. Just because it's old or expensive it doesn't mean it's great.

  • @chrishbrbritton8384
    @chrishbrbritton8384 4 роки тому +17

    Your tasting notes are special, man. Any time I wonder what it is I’m getting on a dram, I just have you tell me. #1 palate in whiskey tube.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Chris. It seems to be getting more sensitive over time and picking up new things as whiskey opens up as become a fun challenge. Cheers buddy!

    • @chrishbrbritton8384
      @chrishbrbritton8384 4 роки тому

      The Mash and Drum I know exactly what you mean. My buddies look at me like I’m crazy as I pick the whiskey apart, but then they’re like “oh, hell yeah that’s in there...” You gonna go for the Bardstown taster opportunity?

    • @HieronymousLex
      @HieronymousLex 4 роки тому

      The Mash and Drum you have a good ability to not let labels affect your perception of a whiskey, at least in my view. I see a lot of other whiskey tubers falling for flashy marketing. You on the other hand are willing to call it how it is

  • @WhiskeyQuests
    @WhiskeyQuests 4 роки тому +8

    Bummer 🤦‍♂️ since it’s limited they might as well just bottle it at 100+ let people water it down themselves. Cheers bro 🥃

  • @charlesnappo7679
    @charlesnappo7679 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks Jason, what do you think of Rye's- I'm looking for a bottle of Willet.???

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah Willet 4 years are really good. I love Pikesville Rye, Old Forester Rye and High West Double Rye. Those are my usual go -to bottles.

  • @goodlucktj
    @goodlucktj 4 роки тому +2

    For those of you who have invested in EC18, but don't love it: I would recommend you try blending some with ECBP on a 2:1 ratio (EC18:ECBP). I'm currently doing this with some C919 and enjoying it. The end result is a much more interesting flavor profile (notes of oak, stone fruit and caramel) with a higher proof (around 105).
    Great review, and a great way for those new to bourbon to know definitively what oak smells and tastes like.

  • @704musicent
    @704musicent Рік тому

    Do you know of any older age bourbons that are closer to full proof/cask strength? Would love to try something 15 year and above that hasn't been watered down to 100 or 90 proof...Thanks

  • @BretSimmons
    @BretSimmons 4 роки тому +2

    Great honest recommendation. I think I have a better chance of sighting Elivs than I do of ever seeing a bottle of this on a local shelf, and at $130. There are so many great bourbons under $80, including ECBP.

  • @ironmantran
    @ironmantran 4 роки тому +1

    I use these EXTREME aged whiskies to add 1 teaspoon to a dram of its younger BUT barrel proof nectar. . . Always love yr analysis.

  • @johnfreed9167
    @johnfreed9167 4 роки тому

    Great review Jason. Saw this the other day at retail and passed. Tempting but still walked. I remembered it came in last on the 11K sub live stream. You also mentioned then how it fell short and now this review so now I am really glad I passed. Ended up getting a 2019 11yr Knob Creek store pick which is excellent and there is a store near me that has a Russell’s Reserve single barrel store pick from Camp Nelson warehouse F barreled 12/2009. Both bottles together less than the Elijah Craig 18. Can’t wait to get the Russell’s. If it is anything like my bottle I have now it is going to be great! Cheers! 🥃

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      You definitely made out on that deal. I would have went for the Russells and the Knob too!

  • @judahlion5826
    @judahlion5826 Рік тому

    Thank you for your honest and truthful review! 90 proof is way to low. My local liquor store is charging $250.00. Ridiculous for 90 proof

  • @durzagon88
    @durzagon88 9 місяців тому

    Feel the same about knob 15. They water them down to lower the proof it falls flat.

  • @richardbell5552
    @richardbell5552 4 роки тому +1

    Great review i like the 12 year and the BP Elijah Craig actually just bought a bottle of the Old Ezra 7 BP pretty oaky and dark cherry good stuff for $40.

  • @danovanezian1442
    @danovanezian1442 4 роки тому

    You are the most informative Bourbon reviewer out there! Keep going!

  • @seckler17
    @seckler17 4 роки тому +2

    I agree, I had high hopes for this when I tried it at a bar a couple years ago, especially with how much I love the 12yr BP. It was underwhelming, there was essentially very little finish once some of the sweetness was taken over by the oak and tannin's. I'm glad I tried this before buying a bottle.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      Well I'm glad you took my advice before my video. LOL. I feel like this bourbon has a place for the bourbon drinker that likes oaky flavors without all the proof. But overall it falls flat and becomes very predictable after the first two good sips. Cheers!

  • @PalJoey-on1yi
    @PalJoey-on1yi 4 роки тому +3

    This was my favorite bourbon back when it sold for around $50/bottle. Current shop price is $299 and I've since moved on because of it. That oak prominence in the flavor is what I always imagined might be the flavor difference between older and younger formulas in the bourbon industry.. Seems like younger generations prefer sweeter formulas. I personally find that 'sweet' can be cloying and that oak provides longer term pleasure and stability.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      Like I said in the wrap up...for those who like a really oaky profile and not a killer proof, it has its place. But given the market today it just doesnt do enough. I still think its a good price for an 18 year old bourbon today. But too many good options out there and this should be way more than what it is. Cheers!

    • @wrxguyusa
      @wrxguyusa 4 роки тому

      Beat me to it! I was about to post the same.

    • @peaceandwealthseeker4504
      @peaceandwealthseeker4504 4 роки тому

      PalJoey 1957 I like oaky and vanilla notes but too woody takes away from it for me personally also I’ve noticed older stuff does better at higher proof

  • @crookedtail3631
    @crookedtail3631 4 роки тому

    You just saved me $130! I appreciate your honesty commentary. Cheers! 🥃

  • @ryanparker4775
    @ryanparker4775 4 роки тому +1

    I wish I had a friend who had this, I have had 2oz samples of this and the 23, I would buy either if I seen at retail. Great review as always

  • @mikesnook6210
    @mikesnook6210 4 роки тому +1

    Glad you reviewed,, there are not many positive reviews in this bottle. My local store has it at retail every year and like you I have always passed. I feel it should be amazing but a shame it’s not. Cheers 🥃

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      I agree. I figured I'd grab one for a good price. Glad I did but I wouldnt seek it out again. Cheers.

  • @bradleylee8650
    @bradleylee8650 4 роки тому +1

    I live in Ohio too and when I see u with a bottle like this I think “awesome, maybe it’s here in Ohio”! Glad I got the review before I make my weekly trip to liquor store to see what was delivered this week!! Thank u!!

  • @jdwinfield8598
    @jdwinfield8598 4 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your perspective. You are very accurate for what I like. Glad you keep it up.

  • @ericstanley8003
    @ericstanley8003 4 роки тому

    Never tasted, but you're opinion nails it. I always hear, " I can get two ECBPs for the price of this and its so much better."

  • @mmanente
    @mmanente 4 роки тому

    I’m SOO glad you did this because I have a chance to get one for close to msrp and been putting it off because of price and now I can stop obsessing about it. Ain’t pulling the trigger till I try it. Thanks

  • @KennethRathburn
    @KennethRathburn 4 роки тому

    I got to try a blind sample of this recently and I'm wondering if my palate isn't sensitive to oak, because oak barely sprang to mind. Instead, it was nice and pleasant, had some complexity and wonderful texture, but I wouldn't spend more than $65 for a bottle of it.

  • @timgargis7565
    @timgargis7565 4 роки тому +1

    After tasting the Dickel 13 year BiB I am shy on chasing high age bourbon. I am sure there are some that are worth the price, but for me there are too many other great bourbons that won't kill the wallet. Great review as usual. Cheers!!

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      Thanks Tim. Appreciate it. And I agree with you.

  • @yellowman617
    @yellowman617 3 роки тому

    I can't believe i found this yesterday.....tha price wasn't too bad either

  • @davidlavin3492
    @davidlavin3492 4 роки тому +1

    Think you hit the nail on the head why it’s at 90 proof. Heck the standard small batch is 94!

  • @WhiskyMystery
    @WhiskyMystery 4 роки тому

    Another win for the younger cheaper stronger.

  • @railroadtrash09
    @railroadtrash09 3 роки тому

    Love this one. Elijah Craig is in my top 5 all around.

  • @michaellambright7968
    @michaellambright7968 4 роки тому

    Quality of your videos has gone way up. Nice work, man.

  • @czrs85
    @czrs85 4 роки тому

    Picked up that Old Forester 1920. Don't know if I will regret not picking up the Knob Creek 12 yr old.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      Oh you won't regret it at all. The 12 is good. But I would still take the OF 1920. Cheers and enjoy

  • @anthonymaccio1328
    @anthonymaccio1328 4 роки тому

    Great video and review! Some bourbons are just not for everyone's palate. Just keep reviewing them as you taste it. It why I am finally try and enjoying an Islay Scotch Bunnahabhain 12. Thanks Jason. Cheers!

  • @shemcoward6760
    @shemcoward6760 4 роки тому

    I know folks hate hearing this sort of statement, but I really felt this bottle changed quite a bit over the course of a couple of months. Bought at xmas at Heaven Hill during a tour. It now has wonderful citrus zest notes on the nose and palate to balance out the oak/vanilla bomb. I'd love to see you try it in the fall to see if your opinion changes.

  • @efex604
    @efex604 3 роки тому

    Barrell Proof 18 would probably be pretty damn magical lol cmon EC get on it!

  • @kane6106
    @kane6106 4 роки тому +1

    Yeah, going to have to say the 12yr ECBP is the sweet spot.

  • @kylewalker7919
    @kylewalker7919 3 роки тому

    I tried an older release at my dads house a few days ago. I had the same exact experience as you. I thought maybe oxidation played a role but I guess not! Still a solid pour.

  • @RunRevCoach_Gerald
    @RunRevCoach_Gerald 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the review. I’ll definitely work on trying this before buying. I too like my older bourbons at a higher proof. I think they bring so much more to the palate and I like the opportunity to choose the ideal proof for myself. When compared to the BP expression, I can definitely say I’d lean more towards that bottle of these two.

  • @karenbford
    @karenbford 4 роки тому

    Nice honest review Jason.

  • @the_snicklefritz
    @the_snicklefritz 3 роки тому

    Just cracked a bottle and your review was spot on! For an 18 year bourbon, its great! For the market its demanding while being a 90 proof? I'll pass from now on. So many high quality cask strength options on the market today. Glad I got to try nonetheless

  • @mikem3726
    @mikem3726 4 роки тому +1

    Great video: I appreciate your honest and detailed review. Good to know when the juice is not worth the money, especially with all the options out there. It does always seem to come down to subjective opinion so springing for this without trying it first is probably not the best thing. Thanks for helping the rest of us out. If you have any coins, I would love to buy one. Cheers!

  • @dgsutube01
    @dgsutube01 4 роки тому

    Interesting review. I know you've reviewed the Rhetoric 25, too. Both have been in barrels for a long time, although the Rhetoric is 7 years older, so would expect it to have more oak than the EC18. Does the Rhetoric have significantly more oak? Between the two, which would you rather drink?

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      I actually liked the rhetoric 25 over this once it opened up. The EC 18 just got really flat and predictable after a few sips. The rhetoric 25 I don't think is worth the 200-250 price tag either but was more interesting than this IMO.

    • @dgsutube01
      @dgsutube01 4 роки тому

      @@TheMashandDrum thanks! Yeah, the price tag on the Rhetoric is too high. And great point about the ECBP - I'd get more enjoyment out of three bottles of that over a couple bottles of the 18 year old, or one bottle of the Rhetoric. Thanks again for a good, honest review!

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      @@dgsutube01 glad to help! Appreciate you watching!

  • @philc1884
    @philc1884 3 роки тому

    I see this one locked up in a few of my local stores at silly prices. Thankful for the review as once I hear thin consistency I'm out. Why would they bother to age it so long for only 90pr I wonder?

  • @coalhair99
    @coalhair99 3 роки тому

    Wow, glad u posted, i didnt know it was 90 proof & i have a chance to pick this up, i think i’ll pass. 12 yr & toasted barrel r tuff to find here in SC. Thanks as always Jason!

  • @hrnola2444
    @hrnola2444 4 роки тому

    I agree. Bought yesterday and will not buy again. EC barrel proof A,B,C at nearly a third of the price are great values.

  • @robertshay9235
    @robertshay9235 3 роки тому

    Just saw it at a PA liquor store for $199.99. Definitely passed on that. I do like EC SB a lot.

  • @daver7178
    @daver7178 4 роки тому +1

    In your opinion, would you say there are a LOT of other bourbons that you can get for equal to or less than ~$120? Every review I see for the EC18 is that it's overall disappointing. ECBP is where I'm at with EC products, soooo damn good.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      I would agree. With todays bourbon market there are ALOT of bourbons that hit the market at 100 dollars or higher but not many that have this high of an age statement so I will give that to EC 18. I feel like when HH decides to bottle this at 90 proof, those barrels have to be special to warrant the price and age statement. The EC BP is still the best value bourbon they make and your right...there are alot of bourbons I'd rather have than this that are less money and more available.

  • @trooper5157
    @trooper5157 3 роки тому

    Just a thought, in having both the EC18 and the EC barrel proof.... blending them together at home would give you a bourbon at around 110 proof...not too hot, not too watered down.... and not too oaky. Will have to give that a try and see if a blended combo is the way to go here.

  • @100puremustard5
    @100puremustard5 4 роки тому

    This was already an easy pass for me @ $299 locally! Your review just confirms it... I'll continue to enjoy my ECBP especially C919! Cheers!!!

  • @dylan_711
    @dylan_711 4 роки тому

    These have been popping up around the house but have not jumped on board. Really looking at buying the Whistlepig 15.

  • @TheBanjoFlyBoy
    @TheBanjoFlyBoy 4 роки тому

    Appreciate your candid review. I will stick with EC Small Batch🥃👍

  • @JuanCarlos06
    @JuanCarlos06 4 роки тому +1

    My local craft liquor in Southern California has a few bottles of Elijah Craig 18yr for about $190. I've always wondered if it was worth it but based on this video and what I've heard from other people, I'm gonna pass on buying it. I'll just wait to meet someone that has a bottle so I can mooch from it :)

  • @whiskeygrunt772
    @whiskeygrunt772 4 роки тому

    I keep a bottle on hand mostly just because it's 18yo. It serves as a benchmark to compare other ages to show what time does during maturation. It's don't dislike it, but it's certainly not my favorite. It's just nice to be able to educate your palate and that of your friends on what age "tastes" like. Given that GTS is usually around 15yo and isn't nearly as oaky as EC18, perhaps EC18 needs more proof? or HH needs better barrel management. Don't know.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      I think you nailed it. proof and choosing better barrels could bring this bourbon back to something special.

  • @ryanstewart270
    @ryanstewart270 4 роки тому

    Just finished a bottle barrelled on 11.27.89. OMG

  • @AlphaOneActual
    @AlphaOneActual 4 роки тому

    I wonder if EC 18 SiB would be better at say even 94 proof like the standard Small Batch? I’ve never tried it & only seen it once locally, but it was already reserved for someone.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      I honestly think any bit of proof will help this one buddy. lol.

  • @Losdaman
    @Losdaman 3 роки тому

    Love Elijah Craig..... but that's a bit steep for me... maybe one day... try before you buy.... that's why we have you. ;)

  • @Gachain
    @Gachain 4 роки тому

    Nice review Jason. I had a glass at a bar in the last year and a half and I remember the oak notes being very up front. I appreciated that you took a number of sips to see how it changed for you. A bar is not the best place to seriously access a whiskey, but it seems that your experience and mine are very close. I agree that a higher ABV may enhance the experience of the EC 18 SB.
    Stay Safe:
    Mike

  • @500pizzas
    @500pizzas 4 роки тому

    Hey Jason! As always great review 👌 this is one that I've only seen behind beautiful displays and never at MSRP, it's sad the flavor didn't work for you on something that should have been a home run *every time (agree that the 90 proof is complete let down) but 18 years Elijah Craig... Again, that should have been enough for it to be an epic pour. I hope to try it somewhere as soon as this is over & can get out to see if the oak works for me. Again thanks for the quality content, keep it coming, Jason! Stay safe and cheers!✨🥃🍕🦉

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks 500! I think some better barrel selection and a bump in proof would really help this. The first 2 sips are great...but it gets boring real fast. Cheers.

  • @ccjacks3
    @ccjacks3 4 роки тому

    Excellent review. I was able to get this bottle at MSRP at a store opening raffle and took this over Weller FP. I'm glad I got to try this but, I wouldn't purchase it again. My palate has been ruined by the ECBP so I expected that level of quality in this bottle and was underwhelmed.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree more. Glad I got one. But wouldn't seek out another. Cheers.

  • @robster4308
    @robster4308 4 роки тому

    I watched this a week or so ago and added the note “yuk” to my spreadsheet. Then, there it was at 76.00 before tax. One bottle, so jumped on it. Then, reread my spreadsheet and rewatched this. Hmm. Guess a good value at 98.00 after tax. I think I’ll keep it around for a comparison when I get a barrel proof or for a get together. Thanks for videos!

    • @dragngt
      @dragngt 4 роки тому

      Where the hell did you find it for $76!?!?

    • @robster4308
      @robster4308 4 роки тому +1

      dragngt actually, the “arm and a leg” fancy pants grocery store down the street. They get odd bottles on occasion, and if you’re lucky it’s been mismarked or not marked way up.

  • @brentkuehne435
    @brentkuehne435 4 роки тому +1

    My experience is if your going that far out in age with a single barrel, you should be using no more than a 2 char barrel. You should probably cool age on a single level. This may cut the heavy wood and dry leather notes . For a good drinking bourbon, my opinion is if everything is going good, put it in a bottle no latter than 8 to 9 years. Even the best barrels are usually spent after 8 years! Its probably a bourbon that never got to where they wanted it? Every producer has plenty! Stick it in a fancy bottle, do a limited release for big $, you get rid of it quick!

  • @erikevenson4303
    @erikevenson4303 4 роки тому

    just the thought of this is amazing. i love those woody and leather notes but it should probably be bottled at 50%

  • @archietyler6759
    @archietyler6759 4 роки тому

    Awesome review Jay!!!
    Will try if the opportunity come. But for some reason I am stuck on ECBP C919...that is some awesome juice😄
    Thanks for all you do!!!

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      Thanks Archie! Its hard to go to this after the greatness of the ECBP but the lower proof and high age is right for someones palate. I just think there should be more flavor here. Cheers!

  • @chuckvinson1
    @chuckvinson1 2 роки тому

    It’s available in DC for 180. I’ll pass. Thanks for the heads up homie. 👊🏽🥃

  • @patrickfulmer9596
    @patrickfulmer9596 4 роки тому

    First in. Jason C. is the Maestro of Whiskey Knowledge. Cheers!

  • @christopherdavid446
    @christopherdavid446 4 роки тому

    Great review. I am enjoying my bottle (bottled 7/2019) but I got it at MSRP and would not buy it again. Definitely, not worth secondary in my opinion!

  • @marksaliba4194
    @marksaliba4194 4 роки тому

    Congrats on 13k. Seems like 10k was just a month ago. Regarding the 18yo, I had a pour at a restaurant and it fell quite flat for me. Strangely smelled blue cheese (love blue cheese, just not in my bourbon). Maybe the bottle had been opened for a long time. Either way, I'll stick to younger barrel proof stuff. Cheers Jason 🥃

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Mark! Yeah this stuff does fall flat. Blue cheese? You probably got one with a funky barrel. Cheers buddy!

  • @VaryingViewpoint
    @VaryingViewpoint 4 роки тому

    Great review!

  • @josephdreher1769
    @josephdreher1769 Місяць тому

    Will try at the bar. An 18 year old ar 90 proof doesn't seem worth it. Had the 18 year knob creek, it me wasn't that great, prefered the 12 year

  • @rodneymurphy3722
    @rodneymurphy3722 2 роки тому

    I found 6 bottles yesterday for $499.00 each. Wow

  • @delamo88
    @delamo88 3 роки тому

    Damn I should have watched your video before buying this for $230.

  • @bourbonapprentice
    @bourbonapprentice 4 роки тому +1

    Pretty consistent with what I’ve heard elsewhere. I think this is a pass for me. Great review as always

  • @blauer73
    @blauer73 4 роки тому

    Great review as always. I think I will pass on this one and stick to the ECBP.

  • @chadm6981
    @chadm6981 2 роки тому

    There is 2 here I found in nw FL at a place for 200. I don’t think I would buy it for that. I picked up a regular bottle of four roses for 26 would probably buy that anything over anything else and I have done blanton’s,Elijah Craig small, Elijah Craig toasted, etc. I prefer a low proof bourbon without a lot of oak on the nose. But that’s just my taste.

  • @704Jake
    @704Jake 4 роки тому

    Most reviewers say this bourbon is over oaked. It's a no go for me.

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      It doesnt feel that way the first couple sips so I was hopeful....but the third sip and beyond the oak does take over and it becomes boring.

    • @704Jake
      @704Jake 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheMashandDrum And not to mention it's only 90 proof. That just seems odd.

  • @aukemist
    @aukemist 4 роки тому

    Great review. I chickened out on keeping this, despite finding it at a Costco for $135. Just couldn't justify the price for something that's not at least barrel proofed. Then again 18 year...😖

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому

      Yeah thats the issue I had...Its actually a good value at 18 years old but the flavor doesnt hold up.

  • @yellowman617
    @yellowman617 3 роки тому

    I got mine for 229....

  • @mdiggler
    @mdiggler Рік тому

    Make this year statement barrel proof and then we are talking.

  • @dccoletrain
    @dccoletrain 4 роки тому

    A lot of oak you say. It’s a no for me, Dawg...

  • @mahboy6483
    @mahboy6483 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the review but... HARD PASS

  • @davidjenks9181
    @davidjenks9181 8 місяців тому

    Pretty much mentioned every smell possible 🤦‍♂️

  • @judgeholden849
    @judgeholden849 4 роки тому

    You hold your glass like a troglodyte. Otherwise good review

    • @TheMashandDrum
      @TheMashandDrum  4 роки тому +1

      LOL. Thats a first. Sure! Thanks.

    • @judgeholden849
      @judgeholden849 4 роки тому

      @Robert Blackford yea, I mean I wouldn't correct my friends, but my friends don't have careers drinking whiskey on camera...the least you could do if you want your opinion on 18 year old whiskey to be taken seriously is demonstrate the most basic level of decorum while tasting it