Samsung DeX CAN replace a laptop, but it needs your help...
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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the idea of just having one powerful-enough device and using it on whatever screen is available is, in my view, a true vision of the future that i wish more companies were aiming for
I want laptop motherboards to be smaller, say a lattepanda sigma in size (basically a 3.5" hdd) with soodim ram/ m.2 storage, all in one package, then you just connect that to a 20" folding screen, and voila you have a portable workstation.
or you could have something like the razer linda project
yes, this is what it should be and will be at some point, however this requires an OS which is equally good in mobile, tablet and desktop versions and we simply don't have one
I barely use my laptop so when it's time to replace I'm just getting a monitor and using Dex.
Dex is broken, it can't even have a portrait mode. No screen rotation.
I regularly use the desktop mode on my V60. It's pretty crazy how much I can get done on it. I just LOVE the idea of a proper "pocket computer". That 6 year old me who so badly wanted a calculator watch would have been blown away by what these little pocket sized rectangles can do.
I'm exactly the same. I geeked out hard on little pocket organizers and graphing calculators. Stuff like Dex wouldve broken my brain.
I remember my Casio calculator watch! I replaced that with the Casio CMD 10 with the built in TV remote, the bar I hung out in hated that watch! I was an early Palm user followed up by the Samsung Intellegent Terminal phone with Windows CE along with several Compaq handheld's. Being on the road 18 hours a day I craved a mobile platform that kept me connected back in the 90s and early 2000's. However all that pales in comparision too todays Smartphones. While I have several I7 desktop and laptop PC's I find I almost never use them anymore. My S22 Ultra runs my smart home, takes calls, turns on the AC, the lights and streams TV and movie apps to my 70 inch Samsung TV and I never even need to do anything but talk to it. Life is getting better all the time!
A UA-cam tech reviewer who actually wants to help educate "average consumers" on how to get the most out of their overpowered glowing rectangles? Egads! Lol. Love ya, Juan. Your work is necessary. We as techies MUST help our non-tech enthusiast family and friends get more out of their gadgets.
This 👆🏆💯
@Paule that! 👆
+100
Yes, and us not so techy appreciate the Dickens out of all the valuable advice!
I do this too but no one ever pay attention to me.
I was in the camp that thought this was a novelty until you consider this: your phone is likely your primary computer, not your laptop. Your phone has your notifications, your most important apps and workflows, so using it with dex etc with a laptop dock makes so much sense. Again, if your phone is your primary computer which it probably is for most if we are being honest
That is a good point. If you can only rely on Android apps all the time, something like DeX is super brilliant.
Great video! I would also love to see Dex continue to be developed--it is the primary reason that I bought my S21. I am one of those people for whom it makes sense to use connected to my laptop. My company laptop does not allow access to personal email or cloud storage, so it was a major pain on business trips. With Dex, my work laptop basically transforms into a personal laptop (with cellular connectivity, no less!). It's brilliant!
I'm glad to hear that. I totally understand those use cases, even though I get a bit cheeky about my personal preferences. 😊
I've been using my old Galaxy S9+ with a Nexdock 2 for ages now, and it's been outstanding. It single handidly kept me from buying a new laptop that I hardly ever use. Hands down, function like Dex is the future of we get behind it.
Been using my phone as my PC since 2017 for light work.
Then switched to using DeX as my main PC since Jan 2021, with my Note 20, a TV or Monitor/keyboard/mouse after switching jobs.
Then I ordered and been using the NexDock 360 with DeX since Jan 2022, for work.
Agreed everything hasn't been fleshed out by app developers for DeX, by I still enjoy using it.
And surprizingly data speeds on my phone are faster than my WiFi by a factor of ten, go figure
I've replaced my personal laptop with Galaxy Fold 2 since it came out. It is truly amazing how well it works. I plug it into my LG Widescreen and have a full desktop, that's fast, and has the phone functions, like txting built in as well. Then with X-Box GamePass, It turns into a full gaming machine, that is also better than you'd think!
I remember 20 years ago in the Winmo days when this was the techie dream. The fact that most techies aren't even aware of this, much less understanding it, using it, etc is mind blowing to me. It's been my dream ever since my first pocket pc (Dell Axim). I'm now using this type of setup 100% of the time. In reality the way I try and describe it like how you would hook up an external monitor and maybe even a keyboard and mouse to your laptop. It's exactly the same concept at it's core.
Hey Juan... I cancelled my home internet and use DeX on my big screen TV for all my TV entertainment. This is a good reason to try DeX. If you are in a financial pinch, you don't need to pay for home internet. Please do a review on the best DeX laptop docks. Thanks!
that is actually very smart. Do you ever miss having "normal" internet? I feel like the only issue for me would be using my gaming pc, i think i would still need wifi for that.
But do you have an unmetered mobile connection to replace your home Internet? It's usually harder to find reasonably priced unmetered Internet connections for mobile phones than for home fiber connections.
@@OMA2k I used this method for one month with my limited mobile plan. I didn't hit the limit. I'm with Verizon on their highest data plan. It was just an experiment to see it was doable and in a pinch, it's very doable.
@@b13nx2k Thanks for your reply.
Ok Juan, it may be time for me to get the nexDock. I have been using a portable monitor but I think it's time to go to the next level. Great video as always.
nah bro nexdock is what makes dex 100000 times better.. get it asap
@@aoescool Will do, thanks.
DeX was the product of an age when Samsung Mobile (and other companies really, none of this is limited to Samsung alone) spent most of its time thinking of the new features they could add to their new phones. These days, it feels as though Samsung (copying apple) is more busy thinking of the features they can get away with removing. I mean, if anything, new features like DeX are much more essential these days than they were four or five years ago, because the SoCs have become so powerful that the new phones need such new features to actually utilize the power of the new SoCs in a meaningful way. Otherwise, more powerful SoCs are just a way to increase the phones' battery usage with little actual gain beside swiping to the next page of your home screen 0.001 seconds faster.
You can't add more than 4 window in early DeX era (2017) because the chipset limitation from S8 series
That's why my chipset on Tab S6 Lite (exy 9611) which identical to S8 chipset (exy 8895) is terrible when running DeX, i must limit how many window that i want to keep, of course i can reducing the problem with fan cooling but it isn't enough
Man, this video was such a perfect palate cleanser after MrMobile's Dex "overview"... I've been using Dex (and then switched to Motorola's ReadyFor) for 2 years now and I'm so happy with it! Whether it's on my lapdock (Nexdock Touch) or my main PC screen (which Motorola allows me to use in it's full UWQHD glory, unlike Samsung with their ridiculous software block - seriously, Samsung, locking resolutions upward of 1080p is ridiculous, and making me unlock it with a special Samsung-made cable or a dock THAT YOU DON'T EVEN SELL ANYMORE is just stupid), I've been using it all the time unless I need to run Visual Studio and work. And even then, through an app like Parsec, I can just go mobile with the lapdock and connect to my hope PC remotely, eliminating the need for a "true" laptop entirely... (and letting me own a PC that I can fix or upgrade when needed rather than just buying a new laptop every few years).
Also, you are definitely right that Dex should be a feature on lower-end phones and I'm so glad Motorola puts it on their mid-rangers / flagship killers such as the G100. I've been hoping Xiaomi could make a breakthrough on that front as they sell so many low-to-mid rangers...
It's so freaking weird how the shitty trackpad is always the focal point of all the nay-sayers when MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LAPTOP also just carry a BT mouse anyway! And most lapdocks feature a touchscreen so... yeah. Techies have been dropping the ball a lot recently. You and Thao Huynh are the 2 people I know who talk about Dex regularly and more in-depth than just the regular summary of: "wireless Dex has lag, the PC/Mac Dex app makes no sense and Dex itself? Well, *gasp* how could anyone POSSIBLY live without all the crucial x86 apps!!!" And funnily enough, they all say this as they tout each new iPad as the computer killer (now with magic keyboard, stand and pen for only a low additional payment of an arm and a leg!)
Sorry for the rant. 10/10, great video!
Well said! People rant about Chrome Extensions, how many users don't even know what they are? That there is no photoshop, most people have never used photoshop. If most 'average' users can use a Chrome book, then Dex is perfect. Also, the continuation from apps doesn't get enough praise. I love the fact that I can start something on the phone, hook up to an external display and keep going without worry of sync, passwords, duplicated notifications etc.
I was about to say "You shouldn't HAVE to carry a mouse if you have access to a track pad" and then realized that even when I use a "real laptop" i still carry a mouse or trackball... 😅
I had a g100, the ready for (android 11) interface is better than dex, is more like a really desktop mode. Unfortunately the ready for on Android 12, gave a step back, for me, and the main menu become equal the dex/unity. I bought a S22 and for my surprise, "was locked" the uwfhd, why, to sell the "original " dex base? The dex is a bit poor then ready for, and have a high end phone "loosing" in this requirement is bizarre.
Honestly, I wish that NexDocks would just add and use trackpoints instead. Physical mouse buttons as well just like the Lenovo Thinkpads.
WTF? S7+ does a whole 1440! It should be capable of 4k though.
You touched a lot of important points about DeX.
Thank you for getting this video out!
I've been using Dex as my only personal computing device for 2 years.
Doin it right 👍
I'll admit it. I rarely use DeX on my Note 10+. But I have, and it's pretty cool. The only issue is that everywhere I need to use a computer ... I already have a computer. The incentive to hook up the phone just isn't there. For travel, definitely handy. Compact bluetooth keyboard, USB-C to HDMI cable, bluetooth mouse, the world is your oyster without much weight or bulk.
You're spot on. We have excessive compute power sitting in our pockets, vastly under-utilized. Even the pandemic couldn't make people see that though. Keep fighting the good fight!
It's funny because I use a Lenovo usb port replicator Gen 1 and I can plug into any monitors. I think Samsung has a phone dock that's smaller but haven't tried that yet
@@cliffordyuen1156 does that give you power pass through too? I should have tried it with the USB-C hubs I had in my desk at work until yesterday. LOL Always think of things too late. Got some Thunderbolt 4 docks coming this week though. Might try that out. I already have a little Bluetooth keyboard for an iPad and a Bluetooth mouse.
As someone who hasnt had alot of phones had s4 back in the day and a few prepaids. Im getting a s22 ultra and a s7 fe tablet with w5 watch. Pretty good deal. So im trying to learn these new features. I dont really have a pc right now so these are gonna be awesome
DeX currently serves as a computer to a few of my family members and as my own travel/on the go laptop. It still needs polish in a few areas. If you've been using mobile apps and web services to get work done in the past few years, this solution would increase your productivity. It's not for everyone, but for the majority of consumers who already treat their phones as their ONLY computer, this solution can extend the life of that device and get the most out of that purchase.
I agree with you. I still keep my Windows machine since Android can't run desktop software and I don't rely on cloud-based virtualization solution since not all places have stable internet connection in the first place, but DeX is super great when I only need to use Android apps on the go.
I am really glad that you continue to cover this topic, Juan.
I love the idea. This should be an average consumer feature by now. Yet, I still don't see it becoming popular anytime in the near future.
Smartphones assimilated a lot of electronic devices over the years - cameras, organizers, translators, calculators, pagers, you name it.
But they only did so because it is much cheaper to get a basic smartphone with all these features, than to get them separately. They all are a basic, cheap feature by now. Desktop mode isn't. This needs to change.
A "lapdock" with a flagship desktop mode smartphone combo is still way more expensive than an entry level ultrabook and an average smartphone - and less convenient as well, as you need to connect both devices with a cable, without a good way of mounting your phone to the lapdock most of the time. Not the most comfy way of using a computer without a table - unlike 'true' laptops.
That lapdock needs to cost below 200$ to make any sense when compared to an entry level/second hand ultrabook - and cheap ultrabooks got so much better in the last few years, with all metal builds and AMD pushing industry forward with their multicore APUs. That phone OS needs to have desktop-class SW as well, and it means introducing e.g. keyboard shortcuts, better window manager, etc. Right now, despite being much less powerful than an average smartphone APU, Raspberry Pi with Linux is way more flexible than any of smartphone desktop modes.
I own Moto G100 with ReadyFor - it ain't ready for anything but very basic tasks - there is no webbrowser with extensions support, or desktop websites as default setting, UI is annoying and covers browser tabs when you want to click on them, there is no snapping apps to screen edges, etc. Maybe DEX is a little more mature, but at this point I am pretty sure nobody really wants to make it a true desktop replacement. Which is a real shame.
I saw a brief about Dex a few months ago after I got my S22 Ultra
Today I decided to give Dex a whirl - OMG, this thing is really well done
WTF Samsung, how come you are not shouting from the rooftops the Dex experience?
I have an old Surface Pro 2 that needs replacing and I was looking at laptops today but after giving Dex a go, I'll hold off on that decision for a while I think
Come on Samsung, promote Dex will you!!!!
I'm writing this commen on my Samsung Dex on a second monitor as we speak. But this is why I love this video; DEX is notlike using a brand new laptop, but srsly it's such an amazing device! We are so spoiled that we can't stop to appreciate how much technology has advanced. I was just thinking a couple days ago how tech reviews are full of negative click baits about all these amazing creations. Thank you for the realness!! :)
I genuinely use Dex everyday and it's something that would keep me on a s+ if it had more of the "Android premium" features I miss
every time I stumble onto one of these videos, I'm like... dang, this guy gets it. Bringing thoughtfulness to an otherwise oversaturated tech review landscape. Thanks for being more than a tech review guy and a champ of one of the little people.
There are a few of us out there. Thanks for tuning in.
I use dex so much it is literally my number 1 requirement when buying a new device. I wont buy one without it. I use it on my laptop and my tv and I have a stand alone dock for it. My tab s6 has on device dex. It's invaluable to me and is the primary desktop experience I use now. Of course I still have windows for gaming and for 3d print slicing but that's all I use it for now. Dex is amazing.
Great video, thanks. I only use Dex and don't miss my PC at all.
This was a VERY good, well thought out video! I've always loved the concept of Dex, but yeah it doesn't get the focus it needs to become truly great.
I'm really glad to find a channel covering Dex seriously. I've loved the concept since the S8. I haven't yet tried it, but I'm almost certainly going to get one of the NexDocks to try it. I think it would help me, and my mom when I'm not using it. I like that the case can be used by multiple people with their own devices.
great video! i forgot about dex. no one ever talks about it. probably because the tech community are mostly well off financially and don't see the massive benefits it has for lower income people.
One problem with DeX is that it's only available for flagship models. Samsung could have easily put DeX on top-end Galaxy A series model like the latest A73 and A53, but they couldn't be bothered to do so.
I personally forgot about this function until today !!! and searched on youtube and found ur video!! very intuitive, at 2022 this function should be at its peak if it was recognised !!!
So i own a nexdock as well, but as of recently i got the tab s7 fe. It's just a better experience. I just bought it as a dex source as well. Even as just a monitor(streaming to it dex wireless) it has way better battery life than my nexdock. I think we no longer should look at the nexdock type monitors. We should look at older samsung tablets that support wirelesss screen sharing... because their screens are way better!!
Anyway. If you really love dex make sure to download multi star on the good lock app. This will enable bigger res displays, and allow you to open more than 5 apps in dex mode.
Another thing you should try is andronix. Andronix will let you load full blast ubuntu or other linux distros on your phone like a virtual pc. You will have to do some adb stuff because the new battery manager closes the vpc after 10 mins, so u gotta adb disable that lmao.
Also in terms of the future... android 13 will be able to natively support the arm version of windows 11. So we just have to wait a bit. Unless you dont want to wait and you NEED windows specifically, there are cloud pc things from Microsoft, but i think those are $30/mo so imo not worth. Especially since android has wine atm.
Watching this video with Dex on my phone while I do my college work in zoom!
The way you say ii (about upgrading by upgrading the phone vs Chromebooks), I never thought of that. And so it makes a lot of sense to me to buy a Samsung Fold 5 (bc I think from the Fold 5 and on it's when it's going to be worth it to get a Fold, maybe the 6 and on).
It is easier to justify really expensive phone if you know it's going to save you money on an extra laptop or something as well.
I'm happy to spend over $1000 on a phone if it's legit capable of replacing my $2000 laptop and $3000 worth of camera gear when I'm shooting on the road.
Ive been using Samsung Dex full-time for 3 months now. Overall I have to say its 90% there, but still needs refinement before it can truely replace Windows 11 for casual users. One huge drawback is everything feels a bit less responsive. Theres a 1 second delay on average whenever you click between different tabs and windows. Some windows will randomly minimize or shrink when you switch to another window. And tabs in the background will refresh sometimes when you go back to them, which can get annoying. Im using a Samsung S20 FE which only has 6GB of RAM, so this could be the reason why multi-tasking feels sluggish. Going back to Windows 11, everything just feels instantaneous in comparison
I really wish Samsung will continue to improve Dex, because I think its perfect for casual users who just wanna be able to use social media, browse the web, or watch content on a bigger screen when they're home. It beats having to buy a separate laptop/desktop for the sole purpose of having a bigger screen to use the same apps that you already have on your phone
It's hard to swallow that my 3.5yr old ThinkPad P52s, 16G, 256G hard drive, and matte 2K screen can be made obsolete with my S22 Ultra, a mobile screen or smart TV and wireless accessories. If I can operate my CRM well through DeX, I'll have to gift my laptop to my 7yr old or just sell the ThinkPad and buy my 7yr old a used S21 Ultra. The upgrade trade in value on Samsung Devices seems way better than the resale value on laptops and tablets. I had a Note 9 for just short of three years and no idea DeX was a potential mobile workflow solution. Thanks for this video. I do hope we see a continued evolution of DeX and similar solutions.
Because of you, my previous LG G8X was like this super powerful phone that was also completely unassuming... Until I showed off what it can do. Editing videos? No problem. Being a Plex Server? Really cool!
Hooking it to a display and converting it to a computer? That was the only thing I could try. Now I'm looking for a V60... Or maybe a very used Galaxy S or Note that can do it, just like how my $90 G8X was able to laugh in the face of all my friends' Xiaomis
Man, that feeling is so great. Even the overrated Mi 11 Ultra still use USB-C 2.0 when pretty much everyone else has already been using USB-C 3.1. Really, Xiaomi? 😂🤣
Broooo....fantastic insights. One of the best vids I've seen in a long time. All I need is basic word doc and video editing. If this can all be done on my S22 Ultra via the dock you have then you just saved me a bunch on a laptop.
I've never even heard of those docks so thanks again for highlighting them.
Hey glad you caught it. If you can, try Dex out first on like a TV or a monitor, and if you dig it, I'm a huge fan of laptop docks.
Happy Dex user with my S20. The key component for me was finding the right USB hub. Once done it was smooth sailing.
But where can I learn more about this Note 22 you mentioned? ;)
What USB hub are you using?
I'd also like to know your usb hub.
Hub please?
@@TheBassetlover The cheap avalible at Target Ihome hub will do WQHD+ on Samsung 7 series tv. The Ugreen hub aslo works good. I own both. On a Sharp 4k tv neither goes higher than full HD though, its a tv issue. Not all 4k tv's are equal.
The note 22? Oh yeah what he actually means is s22 ultra, basically a note 20 Ultra with less features, no micro SD card slot, the same software launch problems the last S Ultra phone had... Not a true note.
new to the channel but good stuff you have here. One not for those looking for Windows work space on DEX is to dial is with Parsec to your Windows Computer. i ahve been doing this with my original Nextdock and S21 Ultra. Xbox controller is passed through my phone to PC (or is recognized by phone) but this is not the case with many remote desktop apps. Juan, your logic is really good and i will use the phone as an upgrade example with my friend looking to get a new chromebook.
Keep up with the good videos. Tech channels are not easy but you seem to do it well.
What a great review and overlook of an underestimated advantage that Samsung has in Samsung Dex. While I love using my pixel phones, I also love having my Samsung tablet for productivity, note taking, and multitasking. How amazing the future could be if all of our electronic needs were all met in as few devices as possible. Less shuffling between devices, less money spent, less electronic waste products, and more streamlined productivity. I hope we continue to move in the right direction on this.
💯 agreed with all the points mentioned here. I have had too many underpowered outdated devices at the moment and finally decided to buy a portable monitor to act as phone+tablet+laptop upgrade when I buy my next phone. Phone specs nowadays almost make the last 5 years laptop feel antiquated. However, this does limit my buying options as the top specs phone would be mostly from gaming phone with 16+GB RAM. 4GB LG V30 with custom ROM cant even handle multitask well especially when docking. If Android does not want to improve the docking support, I hope the community that ports Windows 11 into dual boot would make the installation easier with drivers support.
I can agree with your point about phone specs nowadays. Even a 5G-supported midrange of phone today like Sony Xperia 10 Mk3 has a much better performance than any budget Windows or Chromebook laptop with Intel Celeron or Pentium CPU.
I am using a Uperfect X14pro wireless.
Currently the only lapdock, that doesn't need a cable to connect to my smartphone.
This lapdock makes a real difference to all the other products available
Coming back to this video in 2023, I have installed Andronix Modded Ubuntu OS on both my LG V50 and my LG Wing. It may not be as snappy as I first thought, but I love the fact that I can have desktop-grade web browser (Chromium), coding software (OSS Code), and photo editor (GIMP/Darktable) on my phone. If only Microsoft resurrects the Lumia lineup with modern SoC and Windows on ARM or Google integrate ChromeOS on Pixel phones, then I'd be more than happy to leave my laptop behind.
You can get in cheap with a renewed S10 (just got Android 12 on mine).
250$ for the phone, 30$ for a USB-C to HDMI dock.
You're good to go plugging in to your TV or PC monitor.
The S9 goes for around 150-175 AFAIK if you're tight on cash.
Plug in your old KB/Mouse into the dock itself if need be.
I got my S10e (very good but used condition) for $180 😳
Hey @juanbagnell, the DeX on s10e is like the one you find on S22U? Thanks!!
@@SomeGadgetGuy purrRrrRRRrrRRrr sis
@@ramonsd177 Yep. DEX is DEX. The only difference will be performance. The SD 855 is still very solid.
In my family we are all using Dex as a main educational gadget. Hope the Dex will improve.
1. Support other than Samsung Key board.
2. Allow third camera as a monitor webcam for meeting and online class.
3. Able to runn at least 2k resolution.
4. Etc.
i love it...perfect at work dont need a laptop for non-LAN connectivity
Big N-O !!! Smartphone manufacturers get away with a lot of bad practices that current laptop manufacturers don't fully do yet. Unless Samsung does away with planeed obsolesence, I don't want to see tech influencers pushing the idea of ditching laptops in favor of smartphones. I don't want to have to replace my "laptop" every year or so just to be able to have updated software.
I came to your channel to learn how to use DEX on my brand new , wrist breaking, Samsung Galaxy s22. So once I find and watch that video I'll be one of those consumers who will utilize it more. Also, ill likely be a patreon person soon. Just living your driver, knowledge, and expertise. Thanks for not speaking like a rabbit on speed drops and stethoscope.
I'm game to mold this into my daily driver setup.
I've dabled with dex a bit but I feel now that I have the hardware and the accessories to carry dex to that next level
Great video. My MacBook Air recently died, prompting me to investigate the potential of Dex. I've been super impressed at how easy it is.
I use a HDMI switcher for my monitor and a multi-connection Bluetooth keyboard to switch between my work laptop and my phone.
I'm so stoked on Dex, in currently investigating a portable monitor for a mobile Dex setup (not necessarily a lapdock as I want the monitor elevated and will connect a mouse).
Much cheaper than a new laptop with the benefit of having all my stuff in one place.
I can also dock my phone at my firm's interstate office when I travel, meaning I don't actually need to take my work laptop. The drawback is having to use the mobile Office apps, but I'm getting more proficient with those.
I cannot believe I didn't know about this. Seriously, I just found out about Dex today and it's been around for years. Why is this not more well known?
I can remember owning a desktop PC, with a separate monitor and keyboard. Dex, to me, effectively does the same job, but instead of a huge tower, it's pocket sized.
I am very interested in this. I have a Chromebook that is great...some of the time...but this solution seems like a no-brainer.
Thanks for this excellent video by the way, very thought provoking.
I keep trying to tell people, but the big channel reviewers all act like it's SUCH A CHORE to use. 🙄
Well I just learned two days ago! But I never was a fan of Samsung.. a bad experience of the past. Ok, time heals everything"
I'm currently watching this on Dex, my S22 is connected to my AOC gaming monitor, with keyboard & mouse connected. I usually use Dex to open a worksheet, scienticic calculator app, & video, while i'm studying, then on my HP 2 in 1 laptop I have OneNote open for taking notes & working solutions. I bl00dy love Dex!
Dex on a projector on a 10 foot screen with the Samsung dock is the best home theater and computing setup ever !
I still use my DexPad with my S22 Ultra. It charges my phone while I'm working, has a fan that keeps my device cool, and has a built-in trackpad. I also have a dex cable, which makes a big difference in connectivity. I never thought about a Chromebook until I saw this video. Keep these informative videos coming. I wish Samsung would talk about Dex at their Unpacked presentations. So much power in our devices. I also like the Otterbox Defender case.
I think it's because for most people who already has a laptop, there's no point using Dex to replace a desktop OS. That's unless the laptop being used is seriously in dire need of an upgrade.
In a tablet, though, this would be significantly better than anything else besides desktop tablets
Fair point there. Not everyone would want to use more than one OS for daily work.
There is a paradox where tech enthusiasts and tech channels earn their grip by increasing consumption of gadgets and accumulating gadgets etc....dex is inviting people to spend less money overall, to buy less gadgets. I'm thinking out loud, but I wouldn't be surprised if that is part of the reason why dex is not embraced really on text social media spaces
I totally agree with you i was sceptical about dex before and when i had to use it on my laptop at work i knew how much i was missing and how dex is an awesome feature of the premium samsung devices.
Now i am looking into keychain usb c cables so i can be dexing on the fly if i had to and there is no laptop around.
I'm just starting my DEX adventure. I going to pair my tablet S8 with the Samsun M7 monitor and try to see how that goes for me. I'm not planning to do really intensive stuff on it but I'm really ineterested to see how much I can get out of it.
I use DeX for work exclusively. It is completely enough. And it is cool.
Beautiful points made Juan. We need more people highlighting these amazing features.
I think i got a cheap ugreen dock for my note 9 back in 2018 and i use it at work from time to time to test out features since i had space for 3 monitors on my L-shaped desk. I'm in IT so it wasn't odd to see IT with that many gear on the desk at my workplace. I saw the potential and recalled when I was a teen telling friends that one day, we can carry a PC in our pockets and when that time comes, it's going to change things. The question is not if the tech is there or not, but how do you frame it to be "useful" to the casual consumer? It's obvious now that some don't mind spending 1000 dollars for a phone despite the locked system and perceived "security" features that is unbeatable and all of it is due to the underdog story and good marketing strategies.
I've come to realize what I consider very simple workarounds, is considered super scary to the non-tech savvy. Apple is really good at bridging that gap. Samsung I think , the perception of non-samsung users is that it's fitted with bloatware and it's still in its touchwiz era -- they could be further from the truth. However, even the idea of a tablet might not be as useful to some until you give them reasons to get them. I like the PC in the pocket approach. grab them by the imagination. let them see the future.
If apple can take what Palm OS or even Microsoft has attempted to achieve and be given the "first touch screen phone" by fanboys then I think it's not impossible to repackage the concept of a desktop mode on a phone. we are already seeing ARM based chips being used for desktop usage with MBPs and suddenly, non-techies apple fanboys can tell me what is ARM or x86 is or that specs matter to them when prior it wasn't because big brother said it's cool now but have no clue what RISC or CISC is lol. damn you digital logic class.
a good example of repackaging is margarine. Originally, Manufactured to Fatten Turkeys, Which it Killed and it's one molecule away from being plastic, was repackaged to be edible by humans. from I can't believe it's butter to not putting margarine in fridges. It's amazing. Even the food pyramid was Kellogg manipulating to sell cereal. the ideal consumer for companies are definitely one that isn't very informed but an ideal buyer is. However, in terms of samsung dex, i still have no clue how to really sell it to non-techies if i had to. I think it's great, it's close to a PC or Mac but it needs some added features.
I would love to see a full fledge PC level browser on it, with extension support and such like Linux on dex had or Anlinux or linux deploy. Only issue with the Linux on the last two was 3d acceleration isn't there so you get choppy frame rates with youtube videos and such. I like that LG was doing desktop mode and Huawei's one was truly very close to dex. Motorola needs to come with a tablet like s7 fe or S7 plus and somehow sell it cheaper than the counterparts. I think we can forgo the best cameras for it. Idk, i hope desktop mode on android gets bigger but it needs to be on mid-range phones man.
you get that there, potentially, somebody will find a creative way to get it on lapdocks rather than tech nerds. btw, Juan, you're my fav go to for honest reviews for tech. so many are on the Apple wins because,...reasons type but honestly, if they love tech, they should really explore more than what is convenient but then again, go with what your audience want i suppose. I love tech potentials more than tech realized .
I love Samsung Dex I still use it all the time... It still works pretty good on my Galaxy S9 Plus
Dex actually works best when you use it on their tablets such as tab S8. For comparision, I have S9+ with dex and I have very rarely plugged it to a monitor+mouse+keyboard to work with. However Dex on tab is something from different dimension altogether. I have been a fan of dex but never really used it in day-to-day life but now its my preferred way to use the tab and the reason is very simple. A tab has a sufficiently big screen to take advantage of the resizable windows feature plus the keyboard slim cover makes it a lightweight laptop. Being in cyberSec I have to keep learning and taking notes, this is where my tab S8 shines. And man it's a treat to install PPSSPP and play games like God of wars or tekken with a gamepad, overall Dex is quite close to something that feels futuristic.
Watching this via Dex on my Nexdock Touch. Been using it everyday since late 2020 and this is with a Samsung S10+. 😎🙈
DeX is cool, so I bought the premise of a "laptop replacement" for a while, but in the end, I was left frustrated because even a cheaper laptop PC has more functionality because of the available programs. I quickly realized that Android itself is the limiting factor. But the choice of Chrome OS or Linux on Samsung Tablets, especially Ultras? That's a rainbow-y unicorn sparkled dream of mine. Samsung should try and make that happen.
I used my samsung J5 2016 (ik, ik) as my primary note taking device in university for a good 4 yrs until I finally upgraded to the samsung note 20 ultra. I never owned a laptop as I didn't afford it and having to buy a new phone because it literally wouldnt work anymore, I decided to upgrade to something a bit more long-lasting (hopefully) without having to buy a laptop as well. And my GOODNESS, I love Dex, attached my €30 bluetooth keyboard to it and an old monitor my parents were going to throw away and I had my first ever "proper" desk set up. Now I'm working full time and bought myself a laptop, however, Dex is still my go to for those really light travelling days.
Note20 Ultra is still good for another year of OS update and another two year of security patches.
I still got my old Cracked Screened Note8 that lives as a DeX module. I'm diggin it
OLD LG lives on as a media player. OLD Samsung lives on as a PC. You love to see that second life for an old gadget.
I own a note20 ultra, during my 3wks eurotrip, I manage to work using the note rather than my laptop. Ever since I'm thinking about how to go full mobile and if I could install the video editor that I use in my PC on this phone. I'm going to try and explore DEX and if it work WOOOOO!! Freedom!!
Another great video! I would love to see a video done on best apps to use on Dex. I think the more people that know about Dex more people would probably use it. and if there's a great list of apps to use that would even be more helpful.
It's not a Dex thing. It's the matter of finding good apps that work well and do what you need them to do. For Office applications, MS Office still leads the pack, but you have to work the applications through a browser to get all of the features. Their apps are pitiful. And, Office pushes some browsers to their limit. The Samsung browser handles even the most complex Office documents with ease.
So as I say, it's not a DEX thing. The average user who wants to do some serious Office work shouldn't have to use a browser to get all of their functionality. The apps should have ALL of the features that a PC Office package would have. Samsung should make a powerful Office system for use on their devices, period. Then Dex would REALLY shine.
Apple really need to implement this type of feature in iPhone/ipad.
My computer literally stopped working suddenly like 5 days ago. Ironically enough, my HDMI adapter arrived the day before it did
I then installed everything and used my samsung dex as my computer and man am I glad. Now I am looking to how to use my chrooted Debian environment to be outputted instead of Dex
It's handy right! Samsung should really put more muscle behind Dex and marketing.
Who else tries to ignore the yellow thing blocking the video starting at 10:46😂
Dex is seriously under-rated. Especially when you consider using it on a powerful tablet, and use a television as a monitor instead of a dock. I've recently upgraded Tablets, and decided to get a slightly dated Samsung Active 3 (Flagship power and ridiculous durability) as opposed to a new flagship apple or windows tablet. The Dex is a fantastic feature, considering the tablet itself is only an 8 incher. I now can fit the tab, a foldling full sized bluetooth keyboard and bluetooth mouse into my small sling pack, and it's a brilliant mobile setup. The tablet is big enough to work on directly with solid split screen, and when I need a larger screen I can immediately wirelessly Dex into pretty much any smart tv connected to wireless. I just did this at a hotel and it was amazing. It also works wirelessly to Amazon fire sticks, Roku sticks, and similar. Pretty slick stuff. This device is now my daily driver for everything except 3d design and video editing, and in the future I imagine I'll be doing those things on a next gen Active Tab too. Nice vid!
I'm waiting for Samsung to make a brand new Galaxy Tab Active4. It'd be great if Samsung use Snapdragon chipset for the next Tab Active model.
@@farishanafiah8461 Absolutely! I'll definitely be picking one up when they eventually come out.
Since the Galaxy Active Tablet lines have been traditionally marketed for enterprise, I didn't even know this tablet existed until recently when I did a deep dive on tech to replace an old device.
It's amazing, so glad I found it. :)
Coming out of covid, I have a decent workstation that I plug my laptop into. One Usb-c hub wire into my laptop and I'm hooked up to the monitor and charging.
If dex is pretty good, I'd love to be able to just come home and plug a Samsung into that same USBC and be in desktop mode for goofing around on the internet, youtubes. Be able to leave my laptop in my bag.
i always bring usb c to hdmi cable everytime i stay in a hotel, for using dex on the hotel tv!!! i love it
youve just confirmed and reinforced my thoughts about buying a powerful S phone to replace an aging tablet and phone. thankyou
There's not many flagship Android tablet on the market, especially with video output and Desktop Mode capability.
I've been using Dex since the tab s6+ (I'm using a tab s7+ now). You just have to invest on the keyboard. Dex basically replaced my windows PC.
I'm using Mac for main computer and it works flawlessly with Dex on my Note 10+. Sure there's a whole lot to improve but I didn't realized how much I took it for granted when Samsung announced they're stopping Dex support. It's a staple in my job workflow and I now appreciate the things it promised to do rather than being just a gimmick. Hope they change their minds and revisit Dex.
Super Underrated Feature
Still running a Note 9. Dex is still a great feature. Should it be called a feature?
If your just watching JuanBagnell videos? Ask your self; do you need a computer?
To make a USB-C to HDMI an every day carry. Than your pocket computer is your computer.
Taking my note 9 from my home monitor and pluging it into my monitor at work since 2018. I like just carrying my phone and folding pocket keyboard. its very convenient. I love DEX
No joke. The travel weight is just so good.
For what its worth the nexdock's trackpad being jank is more of them not being an actual trackpad, but hardware that actually sends 'mouse' signals. This is why the scrolling isn't smooth. You can test this by connecting a windows or mac to it, same behavior. It's been a common complaint for pretty much every gen and they never bother to address it.
Man would I love samsung to make their own lapdock with one of their killer oled screens. I'd pay $500 for one easy.
Come to think about it, Samsung can take off where ASUS has left with the 2012 Padfone series.
I've been using a Surface Duo for a full laptop replacement since November. For a the cost of a monitor and dock, I can do everything I used my laptop for with a Surface Duo 1
Feels good right. 👍
@@SomeGadgetGuy For constantly traveling on public transport and being able to pack everything I need into a small satchel, heck yeah.
Thats why i love my fold. I can work everywhere and while at home just connect to my monitor and im good to go
I'm watching this on my tv with Dex rn. Hell Dex saved me from having to pay for wifi.
That was such a good video. Going to be honest, I use desktop mode just to play games on my TV or to share pictures and videos when I go to visit family but I have tech savvy brother who needed a Chromebook for school who almost bought a dock instead if it weren't for OnePlus's lack of anything past the stock desktop mode. He's still rocking his 7 pro and none of us saw a reason for him to move on from there
But playing games is a HUGE use for desktop mode. I'm shocked that gaming phones haven't added a "console mode" when connected to a TV.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Man that would be a great video on its own. Gaming phones need to up their desktop game
@@SomeGadgetGuy samsung dex phones are the only real gaming phones for now
Thank you so much for covering this important topic 😊
Dex needs to be saved and improved upon. I have an S9 with a busted display. In regular cases I would have thrown it in the bin a long time ago, but because it has Dex I can still use it as a portable computer that I can connect to any tv I have access to.
That's exactly what I've been doing with my Note8. It has a green screen issue and will cost me around $250 to fix it, so I am exclusively using DeX from it until I'll get the screen fixed.
Another UA-cam tech reviewer had a solid point. Every company that has a version of dex. Also make laptops. And phones have replaced everything. If phones replaces your laptop. That's a huge hit to profit margins. Which explains why dex has these short coming. Features to make it "not as good" as a laptop
I'm not so sure about that. If we are talking about Android vs Chromebook, I can agree with you. Even I can't see the point of Chromebook when I have an Android smartphone with a crazy powerful chipset. But Android vs Windows or Linux? That's a completely different argument altogether.
2 years later, it can't do proper computer stuff, but quick web browsing and note taking it definitely crushes everything below the Galaxy phones and tablets.
I however will still keep my asus g15 laptop around. It does computing stuff, stuff which DeX cannot do just yet
I can render youtube-y videos faster in LumaFusion on an 8Gen3 than I can in Davinci Resolve on a 4070Ti.
Very interesting conversation. I've just ordered an s23 ultra to replace my broken iphone 12 pro and I'm definitely going to try using Dex for a while to see how useful it is.
Thank you for this video - very easy to follow and I was able to connect my phone to tv very easily!
Always hoped for a gaming focus to DeX, getting a Switch like experience. Microsoft can get on it with Xbox game pass support with that nice partnership they have with Samsung at the moment.
Same. That's exactly the point I made on David Ruddock's podcast this week. We could have really device specific modes like gaming or photo editing, simple needs met for specific consumers.
Motorola has that kind of idea with Ready For and it looks great.
The Samsung Dex is a modified Linux KDE plasma, Gentoo Linux and Android Linux. This Linux distribution is based on rolling release not the LTS which is only supported for 5 years which is you mention and talk about like the Linux Chrome, Ubuntu and so on. I’ve used (as my daily driver) are the rolling release. Like Big Linux & KDE Neon.
Thanks for covering this.Most tech reviewers don't even talk about this feature even though this is one of the best features in Samsung phones
Ikr. They always try to be a Samsung knight and yet they never talk about DeX. What a complete irony.
Dex has been a life saver. It’s literally the best feature on my s9 for the longest
I bought a damaged S10 to use DEX as a low powered computer and emulation device. Being that I'm in Europe we get the Exynos SOC so emulation isn't so good, but for everything else it's fine. The front camera actually makes a really good webcam.
This is the first video I watched on the channel. He has the same speaking cadence as the armored skeptic lol
What I expected from Dex is ability to connect my PC and run the applications.something similar to citrx. That will be great use. And no need to carry heavy PC , just working with mobile phone such as S23 ultra.
A proto Dex like program was baked into android from day one but was forgotten on purpose. You can still find it in developer options on any android phone. Samsung just picked it up and renamed it Dex. There are also free apps out there that will do the same thing as Dex on the Google play store. So you can get a glitchy Dex like desktop on any phone right now. It just won't be as refined as Dex.
Been covering it for a while 👍 ua-cam.com/video/lZGgLPByvCg/v-deo.html
For me the Tab S9 Ultra is the perfect mix - It's big (maybe too big), has a 16:9 aspect ratio and can be used in "desktop mode" without an external display (+ AMOLED and the S Pen).
The only thing that would make DeX even better is emulation. Android is based on a Linux kernel and things like Wine exist. It would be nice from Samsung to allow people make emulators and have the good ones in their app store.
sorry for the long comment
I love this and love the idea of one device to do it all. It's minimalist and feels like the future