LIVE: Idaho Student Murders - ID v. Bryan Kohberger - Hearing
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Bryan Kohberger returns to court today for a hearing as his defense team asks Judge John Judge to order the prosecution to turn over more evidence they want to prepare for trial. The hearing was initially scheduled to be closed to the public but Judge Judge determined the witness could testify in open court. Kohberger has pleaded not guilty to murdering four University of Idaho students in November 2022.
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Every time I think this court audio couldn’t get worse, it does.
Sounds pretty clear to me
@@ApplePie.. agree. No issues.
I played it through my Jbl speaker
Thisssss
I tried to so hard to hear this and it is worse!
This case seems so dysfunctional
Everything dysfunctional. This detective had evidence for months and did nothing with it?
The case was brought on by law enforcement and prosecution. They are the origin of the dysfunction.
If Bill Thompson had some semblance of prosecutorial professionalism, he would have vetted the evidence before bringing these charges. Now he just sits there, silent, head rested on his knuckles, skin hue oscillating between the spectrum of red and purple.
This case has been dragged out as long as possible because of koberger and his attorneys
@@Dorothyann436 yes they are covering the horros up with layers of banana leaves - nonsense facts.... inspector have you ever called your wife honey?
A wise man once said,
"When the facts are on your side, you argue the facts. When they aren't, you just argue."
Judge is like oh damn dude
Love how Judge Judge really listens to each person actually looking at them.
His last name is Judge?
@@avi7278 Yup. Judge John Judge.
@@kirstyb90 wow, very cool. I'd like to see a doctor called Doctor now 😁
Really tough job. He must be "on" every minute.
@@avi7278 lol yes
Can't understand hardly a thing the witness is saying.
Even the judge told him to speak up because the court reporter couldn't hear him either.
Prosecution got spanked today, they have security guards leading a 4 person homicide, this is unacceptable a guilty person might walk, or a innocent person might be put to death, shame on the chief of police, shame on Idaho state police
what a disaster .
I can't believe ANY polilce department let files go unread and/or misplaced in a case involving the loss of four lives. It's not like Moscow police has tons and tons of serious crimes to take their attention off this case. I also hope this court gets its audio fixed soon. They need to talk to the Daybell trial people - theirs sounded just as bad at first, then suddenly on day 4 it was fixed. I am SO embarrassed for this police department!!! It sounds like they should have just given the entire investigation over to the FBI or at least the State Police, since it looks like they couldn't keep up with the job .... or even keep track of the evidence and files!!
The daybell trial is in Boise. Thats why
I wonder if bk took into account the incompetence of the police department when he decided to do the murders
@gptsiteuser
the only one incompetent was him. Leaving his dna on the crime scene😂😂😂😂
It's Touch DNA. And likely won't be admissible at trial.
I totally believe Bryan Kohberger is innocent! This is the first case I’ve followed that I believe is innocent. Bryan was so close to getting his doctorate. I do not believe that he could stab 4 victims over 55+ times on different levels of the home and fight with Ethan in 8 minutes! No blood in his car or apartment. Even if a vehicle is cleaned, there would still be evidence of blood. I suspect that someone who knew the victims committed these murders. I’ve also read there’s a big problem with drug trafficking there.
She has zero presence in the courtroom. Her questioning is awful. Also, let’s go. The families have suffered for long enough
This is turning into a fukin circus now,time to go to court on this already
Yes it is.
Wow screen shots of CAST created this April 13th… she has been waiting for 18 months friends and this guy who has joke training takes “screen shots” of the report? Why not print it export it and save the actual report rather than take pictures if it.. why screen clip?
I serious hope the audio is fixed before the trial
Do u know when the trial starta
Zoom sux
😂😂
Technology will improve in a few years when we finally get a trial 🙄🤭
@@inamerica_lol
Could this witness be any more clueless?? 🙄
I find this alarming considering this is a detective charged with investigating a quadruple homicide.
This is why she has 400 witnesses lol
@@Guiu-fo6tv he is not in charge and he is one of many
@mycrimetime he's one of many- who aren't trained to handle the information they're handling. One of many- and can't tell the defense attorney WHO she should be asking to speak with to get the info she needs.
An incohesive team consisting of multiple untrained, unskilled, unlicensed, people who "don't know" and "can't answer" and "are unsure" or "aren't the right person."
This detective should not have been tasked with extracting information from this piece of evidence- he had no idea what he was doing and didn't document his work.
@@Guiu-fo6tv he created a exhibit from a programme from records AT&T that were turned over you don't have to save a copy of a exhibit created for the grand jury to have a visual record of phone records because they would not be trained to interpret them. Come on people not one bit of this is going to help BK. Ann Taylor is trying to put across a narrative by confusing the public 😳
This is a hearing on the case. This is Not the actual court case for those that are confused.
What happened with the evidence the Defense put forth about a month ago that the Defendant was driving in a location away from the scene of the crime?
@@questianna They're still dealing with motions to compel right now so that hasn't come up. They have to sort through the motions asking the prosecution to, once again, turn over the evidence they relied upon in the 2022 PCA.
obviously
Lmao😅
This is infruiating. Police created exhibits of evidence are not evidence, only the original evidence is evidence. In this instance its the AT&T records, not a screen shot of whatever bits of that data made it into a CAST program.
Here evidence, evidence, evidence. Here boy, where’d you go? Oh well, here is a picture of him as a pup.
@@fore3321 More like "Well, here's a drawing of him I just did on a napkin with with the end of a burnt cigarette".
@@fore3321 you forgot to stick it in a folder and forget about it lol
When the audio cannot get any worse, only in Idaho. 🤦♂️
If we’re doing all of this, why don’t we just have the trial already? SMH.
She is fighting for evidence.
do you not understand how our legal system works?
Prosecution got spanked today, they have security guards leading a 4 person homicide, this is unacceptable a guilty person might walk, or a innocent person might be put to death, shame on the chief of police, shame on Idaho state police
@@user-fv7pd6cf4tx
I believe Bryan Kohberger is innocent for many reasons! He’s the scapegoat for this incompetent law enforcement! It has been proven he was not stalking them and did not know them! There’s also a huge problem with drug trafficking there.
I am not the main guy involved in the CAST reporting but I produced the report 🤨
Ann is a smart lawyer
Why isn’t this in the news?
Bc it isn’t news there’s nothing newsworthy files computer files that state just received some fbi just sent nonsense is what it is BLOW BLOW BLOW Again if anything is in these files this guy just found I’ll bet it’s not gonna help the alibi
First time seeing jjj looking a,bit uncomfortable 😂
This guy sounds like he don't know his stuff
They really aren’t going with he likes to drive around at night by himself with the phone off alibi are they?
😂😂 they’re sure trying aren’t they 😂
When did he claim he was doing that *during* the times of the murders?
@@butwereallsombdyspecial that's not what this hearing was about, your comment will be answered next hearing, prosecution got spanked today, Ann Taylor is a top shelf attorney , smartest person in that court room
i haven't heard any alibis involving a cellphone being turned off. Where did you get that info?
No that's too easy. They want a big Perry Mason trial for a small town monster.
Mr.Thompson, do you have anything to say?
please dont bring a power point to the next hearing anne
Chain of custody must not be a thing in these small towns....
That's not what's happening. And most of these cops have worked in big cities before. Besides there's tons of murders in small towns. Every 48hrs and Dateline says " things like this don't happen here " and I haven't seen a NYC LA or Seattle or Chicago etc case for years. They are all in small towns. Seems like Ohio and Idaho and other rural areas have a lot of crimes. There's some of the biggest drug busts there too. My ex is DEA and my dad is a ( ret. ) Fed judge. So not sure what your comment means. It's actually bigger cities that corruption seems to be more common. Idaho is not Mayberry honey.
this was about making a map from a list of cell pings... what does that have to do with chain of custody?
@CramaLand the reports and recordings the detective testified to that he didn't know he had custody of. That is evidence. We don't know who gave him this evidence, who last accessed them, who created them, the information they used to create them. Nothing. Chain of custody doesn't involve just physical evidence. It follows *all* evidence. People have to be able to testify that the reports they are reading testifying on are the SAME reports they created in the first place. If they weren't the last person to have accessed those reports, they can't testify with certainty that any report is unaltered from the original they created.
@grungestoryteller I don't know what you're discussing. I'm talking about the fact that this detective testified that he had custody of a piece of evidence and didn't know, nor could he testify to how, why or when he received those reports.
This Judge is NOT in control of this court- WTH
Exactly 💯🤬😡. Attorneys who've no defense attack technicalities to lose material evidence in case!!!🤬🤬🤬😡🤬 It's Crystal clear this exactly what Taylor is effectively accomplishing🤬🤬Along with dragging out Timelines her efforts to loose both Media & Public's interest in the Case!!!😡🤬
The Judge & Prosecutors have a responsibility to uphold appropriate case law to PUSH BACK AND CONTROL THE CASE NARRATIVE EQUALLY DAMNIT!!!! 😡🤬 They've got to recognize THERE'S NO DEFENSE, SO SHE'S USING THE """TAX PAYERS MILLION'S SHE WAS AWARDED""""😡🤬🤬🤬😡 by destroying evidence by way of attacking the investigation. And pretrial.... Which makes Taylor just as much as a Monster as That Discusting Defendant 🤢🤢🤢🤢
He’s maddening, so wishy washy!!
how is he not?
Hope the trial will be better broadcasted
Police look embarrassingly incompetent at this stage of a huge murder Case. Ann Taylor seems very calm and patient with this witness!!
Can't hear the witness, always something.
The problem with the sound is they're using microphones in a huge room with no acoustics. They all should be individually miked and synced with the video.
Is this going to be how bad the video and audio will be when the real trial begins?
Detectives are not allowed to forget…..😳😳😳🤬🤬🤬
Yeah, nor did he save his work.
Remember ..,you’re under oath!!! 😂😂 you even know you don’t make any sense!
Why are all the hearings for this trial on Zoom? It’s soo annoying you cannot see or hear the people properly, I really hope when it’s the actual trial this is not gona be on Zoom, coz it sucks big time!
Gosh...I hate to admit it but some of the things the state did seem really fishy. I'm actually quite disappointed to hear it.
Elaborate if you're going to make statements like that
@@ministryofungentlemanlywarfare Did you watch the entire hearing?
I know exactly what you mean. State comes across as very evasive on a number of crucial points and there is clearly a lot of key pieces of primary evidence they have not handed over to the defence. That’s unacceptable
Why does the Kolbergers investigation seem so disjointed or miscombobulated.
Maybe because he’s innocent.
@@PollyAlice2000 As he should be in this country....innocent until evidence proves otherwise or not
@@PollyAlice2000Highly doubt it
Defense absolutely is trying that angle again today but I’m thinking this dog don’t hunt today either
@wilE6764 he's innocent of murders. He didn't stab or kill those 4 it seems to be. A sheeth with dna at crime seen. Cmon. No
Not only does the audio and video suck but yet again more bumbling keystone cops. What a joke !
Every other trial even if court cameras actually show at a normal distance who's speaking.
Another day of nothing in BK case.🤷
Exactly a bunch of nothingness nonsense once again Continuing only to confirm the guy has no defense his alibi stinks more today than his guilt did two years ago
In otherwords, you have no capacity to realize what was revealed during this hearing.
@@enduringvalor Exactly!! people just follow blindly, sad really. imagine it were you and you were wrongfully accused. You would want a fair trial and have a proper defense. This guy has been convicted already and the evidence isn't even out yet.
@@brianhollon178what little is known is WAY convincing of guilt. ESPECIALLY the DNA evidence while 4 young people are dead.🙄
@@serenadevon I don't think you know what touch DNA is (and isn't). But even if there was a video of him committing the crime, the court doesn't have the power to strip his right to a fair trial and throw the rules of the legal system out the window. Prosecutors still have to do their jobs and follow procedure, but they aren't, which is why so much time is being wasted on these motion to compel hearings. It's a shame for the victims and their families that the prosecution's office is dragging this out so much instead of doing what they're supposed to do.
Either this guy is lying or very incompetent.
why not both?
How many hours ??
Something or someone instructed the detective to submit only a screenshot. They do not want the defense to get the raw coordinate data.
That's certainly what it seems like. I cannot FATHOM they would do all this if they had the evidence to nail him.
the SAD TRUTH is that this is happening in many courtrooms, rt, every single hour of every single day, across this country ... parallel constructions ... alongside innocent victims and patsies
This is like a discovery they need to just get on with the court date get it going
Please fix the audio,damn!!!
That olderlawyer gentleman worries me.
I find it sad that some files have been sitting unopened and unread when. A Life is at stake.
Yes. Please be concerned about his life and not the 4 he took. 🤦♂️😂
@@ez8308 right
Nothing of importance.
I’m not seeing convincing evidence. Investigators waited too long to get assistance. Innocent until proven guilty.
@ez8308 it goes hand in hand. If the accused didn't comitt a crime that means there's someone out there who did. That means that the public isn't safe and these victims will never see justice.
What is this hearing for?
It was a motion to compel hearing regarding evidence that was supposed to be turned over to the defense already. It was referencing the CAST report (cellphone data) that Anne Taylor (Kohberger's lawyer) had been requesting and was, according to the law, supposed to receive. The hearing happened because they were trying to get the judge to compel the prosecution to finally turn it over, which happened the day before the hearing according to the detective and Ms. Taylor. The rest was establishing context and chain of custody.
We need to get this trial going. The defense is making a mockery out of the court and stalling day after day
Actually, the prosecutors and detectives just did.
AT just proved they withheld and destroyed evidence, what were you watching?
Horrible sound, sure hope they clean it up. Everyone has been waiting for justice to be served and here it's even hard to hear what is being said. Really? Surely the Idaho courts could do better. What a mess.
Cant hear what the detective is saying 😔
Poor victims! Awful!
This is a disaster!!!😂
Nothing on the website
I’m so lost what s this hearing about?
Me too
Ambush of an apprentice. Wait for the real witnesses
Is this the actual trial or are they trying to see if evidence should be allowed
@@PegEjones669 his trial isn’t til 2025
@@PegEjones669 not the real trial
Waz up? why this hearing? 🤔
On the live court hearing the time stamp is 20.29 is where it sounds like she says brent instead of Bryan I'm just asking is there a brent and did I hear her say brent?
If he was trained to use the cast software in 2019, why did he need to get trained again to use the same software in October 2023 ?
They train monkeys too
Herman Munster comes to mind looking at the judge.
Haha😂
He forgot files…..weren’t they turned in by now? Or is she trying to argue the files were changed and then given to her?
'She' does not understand the process of uploading files to the grand jury.
Yes. He forgot the files he had. They were given to him by the FBI. And did nothing.
She's trying to establish chain of custody.
And if you listen, these files were received the day of the hearing- that morning.
I don't know the reason for this, because there are a lot of stuff that they are supposed to turn over but haven't. One of the many excuses that have been made is that the FBI is moving very slowly, so they simply don't have it yet. For whatever reason, this was never turned over. But they magically found the file the day before this hearing.
@@user-ng4eg7ew9ha file Ann can’t trace back on. It doesn’t show how LE got the information from start to finish. Huh?
Training doesn't mean expert
Ain’t that the truth. The ‘evidence’ in this case is a joke
Is this ever going to go to a “real” trial? The poor families of the victims.
Not until 2025. The defense has 2Tb of discovery to go through.
If the prosecution is able to give the information they've been ordered to give for the last year and half, the defense will be able to start preparing for a trial.
BK waived his right to a speedy trial, most likely at the recommendation of AT, as she's an excellent atty and knows that there's a reason the State is playing games with not turning over evidence. She needs time to fight to obtain the evidence in order to argue their case. Hence, this hearing on one of their many motions asking for evidence to be turned over.
@@julesbuscho2063 thank you!
@@just-a-generic-username thank you!
Laptop personal ? Or police issued ?
Actually a pretty interesting trial, but incredibly poor recording quality...
It’s not the trial
Yeah. That was riveting. 🤣
💯
you didn't know what they meant?
I seem worse. Some recordings are just...
Judge looks like he's about to laugh
I didn't realize an attorney is trained how to interpret cell results by LE. Strange.
A great attorney will learn. Hard to ask questions and comprehend the answers, if you don’t know what your asking about or if you don’t understand the answers😁
😊
@@georgiajasper3893 reading and comprehending is hard for some.
I don't know but, until something changes there could be other people out there running rampant that committed these murders with badges or not. Who knows? Ridiculous.
So far i have seen more evidence supporting Bryan Kohbergers right to sue the sheeet out of some individuals than i do of him being guilty.
Thompsons over there sweatin!
This could very well collapse before it gets to trial. The state are on really shaky ground with what they have presented so far.
Bruh he’s getting lethal injection if he’s guilty😢💉this is a big deal
Nah, it doesnt happen but about forty years later after endless appeals.
I thought Idaho has the firing squad
If people are struggling with audio try and add a separate Bluetooth device and that’s a lot clearer than most iPads and tablets and even some laptops, certainly helps with me with my iPad
I also think this witness just has an EXTREMELY clipped way of speaking, too, that is making it much harder to understand him.
I believe this detective is going to blow this court case out of the water?
no hes not
Maybe AT is utilizing the witness to exemplify the faulty system within LE? Let his testimony speak for itself? Everyone seems to be treading water
This hearing he sank it to the bottom of the ocean
lol seriously are you not listening to his testimony lmfao
@@Jack-russell103 Just a wild thought but could Anne have called him in for defendant to illustrate his abilities for the court of public opinion. Then decide not to use him as a witness for the defense
No feelings for the families of those poor kids!
why is he allowed to wear street clothes?
Not uncommon.
He's presumed innocent unless proven guilty. Wearing prison clothing causes biases against prisoners in murder trials.
Why did the FBI not take this case?
If Ann Taylor’s questions are this useless during trial as they were in this hearing Bryan is in deep trouble.
He’s in deep trouble anyways with the evidence they have against him.
💯agree
Don’t be rude she is brilliant. It obviously has gone over your head.
Agreed. Thank you for pointing this out.
Well no she needs & has to understand to prepare for trial. As we know these are hearings. Very complicated information.
I am eating macaroni pizza
I'm eating green eggs and ham
Why didn’t his parents put their house up for collateral to get him a real lawyer? State appointed are worthless
nothing wrong with AT she is the most qualified for this type of case in that area! he is lucky to have her regardless of who chose her!
Bc it would cost over $2 million to defend a case like this. You need at least two DP certified lawyers.
what a waste of time this is. Its embarrassing. This guy is wasting the courts time.
Yes, the detective was woefully unprepared. It's a shame the prosecution won't comply and share the evidence they've been compelled to share since early 2023. This trial should have already happened but they're dragging their feet and still haven't produced the evidence related to the PCA that was issued in 2022. Like you said, wasting the court's time.
Cause they got the wrong guy and their railroad job is falling apart
They better get the audio and visual fixed before the trial or else no one will watch …. Just awful
They really don't care about the public watching...
Im concerned about the amount of pressure the Moscow police were under to solve this case...
Its going to be an interesting trial......
The evidence will hopefully reveal the truth...
The truth is being revealed right now by Anne Taylor!
@@wolfangel1304
I've been concerned from the get go regarding this case...😬
These people who are NOT tech experts have no idea even what to ask or how to interpret or anything to those people who actually DO that type of work.
Not hard to use a programme to make a exhibit for grand jury 🙄
That's what the programme is for
@@mycrimetime thats why they require training, fbi requires 500 hours to present testimony in court for CAST, he had 24 at the time of his map making lol
Mr Thompson. How about say his Full name
She’s trying to bore people away from the case
bore people away from the case? i find it quite interesting she is sinking the prosecution and popped a hole in their floatation device they did not properly investigate this horrendous crime and BK is innocent
ironic when prosecution look a bit shaky now the case is boring, u people are dangerous to society, trying to take peoples rights away
You obviously can’t comprehend.
@@sacredsoul2254 can’t imagine where you see any evidence that he’s innocent
Horrible audio
what really gets me is the people in the live chat who think they know everything about this case and have an ego so big that they think they are judge, jury, and prosecution and know beyond a reasonable doubt that BK is guilty! to those people i hope none of you are asked to be a memeber of the jury ever!!!
Do the Idaho courts have a contract with Zoom? Ooof.
Is there a jury in this trial?
This is a hearing not a trial so no.
This is for discovery of evidence not the trial yet
There will be. But the trial has not started.
Remember “Bundy” was dying to give information on Idaho murders trying to stop his execution
The fact that he was a PhD criminology student so he knows what's up sacrificed all that education
What other evidence leads u to believe his guilt? I'm new to the case.
IF he’s guilty. So many trials happen where things look one way at the start and look totally different by the end. As hard as it is, we need to presume innocence for fair trials to happen.
BK did not do these crimes!
Detective Mowry admits that he
could have “accidentally” put in Maddie Mogen’s AT&T records to produce visuals that tracked around the 1122 King Rd house. Labelled Kohberger.😂
I can't belive there are some people who belive this man is innocente. Sure, there is the presumtion of innocence, but there can't be this many coincidences.
Agreed!
Don’t agree. The investigation was insufficient.
I don't believe for one min one man did this all by himself. The frat house needs to be investigated about the boys walking with hoodies on about 3 or 4 of them walking towards the house around the time of the murders. Do y'all think one person was able to kill all of them without getting one scratch of mark on him to me it's not possible. But that's my opinion following this from the vary beginning.
So no. This man is innocent
bc so far everything has told us BK is innocent
I bet Ann Taylor is holding a big thing in her back pocket that I found on the cast viz website using the way back machine... his SSs and screen records weren't supposed to be presented to the GJ. I don't wanna "help" either side or I'd say more, but they need to dig is all I'm sayin'......
Thank you for your completely pointless comment.
@@ministryofungentlemanlywarfare😂😂😂
Get that demon out of here!!
The prosecutor is who you're referring to, correct?
Like the judge and so far I like the defense attorney she sounds stern and believable
In america, we have a trial first. And defendants are presumed innocent.
That's not very nice. The detective seemed well intentioned, even though he was clearly in way over his head.
You gotta be talking about the judge or prosecutor right? Bryans innocent
Terrible audio, just awful
Why does she sound like a robot?
Why was mallory not being forthcoming?