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LUTHER: NEVER TOO MUCH Documentary Review
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2024
- Gay homosexuals Nick and Joseph spoil Luther: Never Too Much - a 2024 documentary directed by Dawn Porter.
Premise: Chronicles the life of an iconic musical performer, from childhood musical talent to worldwide fame. Explores his collaborations, influences, character and relationships with family, friends and fans.
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Cast:
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Dionne Warwick
Mariah Carey
Roberta Flack
Clive Davis
Lisa Fischer
David Bowie
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I’m 50 and the way I loved me some Lutha growing up…chile 😩. My daughter’s wedding song was A House Is Not A Home and it was at that moment that I knew I hadn’t failed her as a parent 😅. She has fantastic taste in music.
He was such a private individual; I couldn’t imagine how they could weave together a documentary.
Just saw it at Tribeca. Focuses on his music accomplishments of which there are many.
they certainly can't talk about his sexuality because there is no trace that he left behind.
One of my dear friends said whenever Luther was in a love relationship he’d be thin but when he was heartbroken he’d get heavy. He was a sound man and traveled on the road with Luther. I never forgot that and I could certainly relate to it.
that's not accurate. He was always big, then had weight loss surgery and stayed thin until his stroke
I will definitely watch because I love his music. Disappointed they don't delve any deeper but it seems like he didn't want that. He will always be legendary
Joseph that shirt is so crisp 🤍
"This man was known for writing Love songs, who did you love?" ~Joseph
Speaking of, I watch classic movies here on UA-cam, and just recently found out that the song "A House Is Not A Home" wasn't an original Luther song! It was originally sung by Brook Benton from a movie of the same name. That song always felt like signature Luther so needless to say, I was shocked lol.
Actually. This was written by Burt Bacharach and first made famous by Dionne Warwick. Mavis Staples made a version in 1970. It was Dionne tho
Actually. This was written by Burt Bacharach and first made famous by Dionne Warwick. Mavis Staples made a version in 1970. It was Dionne tho
Actually. This was written by Burt Bacharach and first made famous by Dionne Warwick. Mavis Staples made a version in 1970. It was Dionne tho
Actually. This was written by Burt Bacharach and first made famous by Dionne Warwick. Mavis Staples made a version in 1970. It was Dionne tho
Luther Vandross is one of my all time favs! I wish that I could have seen him live in concert. Nick and Joseph you guys have been dropping videos like no other today. I cannot keep up! LOL!
I absolutely LOVE his voice and I always knew he was gay YEARS ago but I didn't care.❤
Same energy here.
How do you know he was gay?
Same. How could someone not know? True fans don’t care. We love him.
I try to avoid Luther being gay
Luther always maintained proper social decorum as one with unflappable integrity and class. I have never known him to be crass, but, it’s been said when he was pressed in an interview about people wanting to know his sexuality, he responded, “It’s none of their f**king business.” Fair enough. He was dead set on not discussing that in life, therefore no one needs to weigh in on his behalf in death. That, in and of itself, would be disrespectful to him and his memory. It’s not anyone else’s story to tell. That’s Luther’s story. If you want to know - o, well. Get over it. Let it be.
The fact that no one has ever stepped up and claim to be a former lover, really tells us all we need to know.
I am 33 years old and I grew up listening to Luther Vandross and loving his music and another song that had clues to the fact that Luther Vandross was gay was the song your secret love.
I just saw a screening of this film last night. It was EVERYTHING and I loved it! We all laughed, cried, and sang along. I learned things about his life and career I never knew before.
It was fantastic!
Where did you see Luther's documentary at?.
I saw it in Chicago in Hyde Park..
@@RonaldLBruce at a small film festival in Huntsville AL.
If we’re going to go there then we need to GO THERE! Especially the rumors about Eddie Murphy
Eddie Murphy?
Why?
This singer, and George Michael, are the ones that had at least 3 songs that had the most classiest/catchy song hooks I never got bored with all these years😊
This singer you mean Luther. Weird way to put it
Honestly this is the first time I heard about this 🙀 Luther’s Killing me softly with his song was such an amazing version! Better than the Fugees! Now it makes so much more sense!!!
One of the most magical moments in my life is having dinner with Luther at an after party for Ashford & Simpson at Radio City. I was friends with the VP of Marketing at Radio City. He knew what a fan of Diana Ross and so many of the great Divas. It’s something we had in common.
So surprisingly, I was invited to this special even. Even more exciting was my being sifted next to Luther, Ashford & Simpson and Luther’s close friend and back up singer, Fonzi Thornton.
Luther and I spent the entire evening marveling at the talents of Ms. Ross….even celebrating how fabulous she sounded under the headphones.
Luther and I had an instant rapport, two gay men of color riffing on our love of Diana and many of the Dark Divas like Aretha and Dionne. Nick also cited in quite often. Valerie was sweet but didn’t talk much.
Our gaydar was working overtime…..though we never discussed it. Luther was simply delightful. I was/am a huge fan. Songs like “You Stopped Loving Mme”, made me melancholy and sensitive to the possibility that Luther never found true love.
Though I love Streisand and Midler, I often said that for a little gay boy of color, we had Diana Ross and The Supremes.
I’m not sure if it was appropriate for Patti to disclose his personal life. However, I know she said it with compassion especially since Luther began her first fan club.
The man was a phenomenal talent and possessed a beautiful. Empathetic soul. Not knowing him personally, I still identify with so much of his music and aspects of his life.
I agree that there’s really no need to discuss something so personal. However, it also impacted his music so his magnificent cover of “House is Not a Home” remains a soul stirring unmatchable performance with a little glimpse into his. Love and pain.
He attended the opening night and the closing night of Diana Ross and The Supremes “Return to Love” Tour. In fact, for a long time the photo of he and Diana together on stage on his Wikipedia page.
He revived Aretha’s career with the superb “Jump to It” album. His dedication to Dionne at the Image Awards of “House is Not a Home” simply breathtaking.
I miss him. We miss him. Many great talents have difficult personal lives. It is often said their pain produced indisputable artistic achievements.
What a great story. Thanks for sharing.
I worked with the sister of Larry, who was killed in the car accident. Her younger brother was also in the car and was injured.
Love hearing someone who loved Luther speak on this movie.
Sounds like a very frustrating watch.I wonder if this documentary being so coded had anything to do with his estate.
It was always luther and Freddie jackson, who was gay but we didn't care
I used to think they were boyfriends when I was a child in the 80s
@@jpdaboss626 They were friendly competitors and similar. Not twincest 😂😆
I love me some Luther Vandross! I am really glad you covered this one, I cannot wait to see it.
Growing up, I was staunchly resistant to Luther. It was grown folks' music to my ears. As an adult, I discovered a love and appreciation for his vocal talent and his music. He made SO MANT great songs, but my favorite is Wait For Love.
I relate to this so much. His music used to be on the Quiet Storm which I hated. But then I got older and fell in love and we all knew he was gay. I wish he could have been comfortably out.
I wasn’t ready yet had me 😂😂😂😂
The Clive Davis comment had me rollin!
We all grew up whit Luther and his sexuality never came up until I was an adult.
Did they address his tour feuds with En Vogue and Anita Baker? Or when Aretha stormed out of the studio because she was the queen of the one-take recordings and he wanted her to rerun the song?
No, they didn't.
This makes me wonder if this was the reason why Lisa Fischer has said she was afraid of Aretha? 😂😂😂🤔
Luther is/was FINE! Some of us like a Teddy Bear!
I thought he was sexy both heavy and thin.
Did they talk about the time Luther called the cops on En Vogue because they kept walking by his dressing room? 😅
That's clearly diva behavior so probably not. 😂
No!
His tour with Anita Baker was drama on top of drama too. They rehearsed a duet but she performed the song during her set. They didn't speak to one another for the duration of the tour.
😂😂😂😂 You know they weren’t going to talk about that.
As he should! I ain't gonna blame Luther. A lot of his background singers were diva when they performed with his. Anita Baker for an example
I had no idea about the car accident. Wow.
Joseph is so ruthless I love it 😂❤
Thank you for sharing your documentary review. I didn't know that this Luther Vandross documentary exist until now. 30jan24
I got into Luther via Bowie. Such a beautiful voice. A shame he didn't get the material he deserved.
Bravo. I love your thoughtful analysis here. ❤
I think the reason the documentary was not the deep because respect for his mother.
she been dead for years
It's really sad that even in death his life is hidden in the shadows.
@@SE-gs6gdhe openly showed a couple of his lovers in magazines (especially Ebony). He had no problem being open at times. The documentary should have included it.
@@SE-gs6gd stfu. I said what I said.
I love Luther so much.
love Luther Vandross
I always loved LV❤❤❤❤
Love you two
Beautiful man, beautiful voice.
I love Luther's music so I'll watch the documentary. I watched a documentary on Luther that aired on BET years ago so I probably won't learn anything new.
I think there were several reasons he didn't want to come out.
It was the 80s, his mother was very religious, it was financially better to pretend he sang songs about girls and he loved being rich and fabulous, he preferred white males.
I always loved his music and the sophisticated approach he had creating his songs.
But I always thought he was an unhappy and emotionally conflicted person who was trapped in this life that he had created for himself.
OK, I always thought he was hot so there were people thinking about him in that way. I remember an Entertainment Tonight interview where the “reporter” asked what’s it like being so popular looking the way you do. I thought it was very rude and helped lead to his drastic and dangerous weight loss. He was very sexy the way he was. Just sayin’
Wow. That’s so rude!😡
Can someone please tell me where to find it to watch it? Ive been searching for a while now. Thx in advance.
Mid to late January 2025 on HBO Max..
As somebody who knew almost nothing about Luther Vandross before seeing this movie, I thought it was an excellent documentary. I agree with these reviewers in that I thought they overdid talking about his eating habits/diet. (And as a straight guy, it was never obvious to me before seeing the movie that Luther was gay. So for me personally, the documentary did a good enough job with that part of his story.)
never too much never too much love that song
Jealous yall saw it! It wasn't availble in the virtual Sundance package😢
I'll see the doc regardless of its short comings. Y'all are messy don't ever change. 😂
Oh come on everybody should have known he was gay but it didn’t matter . We loved Luther , gay or not . I believe nobody gave a damn it was Luther vandtoss.
I only hope that Luther had true love in his life. It's sadly possible that the reason that was not in the documentary at all, is because he didn't have it. Or he was just that deep in the closet about it. Those are the choices this terrible society made a lot of gay men have in the 70s and 80s.
Luther outed himself on Arsenio Hall’s show when he said if he wasn’t a singer he’d would be an interior decorator…The next day some record Exec said “he’s lost the females and now he’s the in the Johnny Mathis record sales category!”
So an interior decorator = gay? I'm not saying he necessarily wasn't gay, given all of the coded language his close confidants, associates and the like were saying, with the added circumstantial events or situations that may lean that way understandably. But saying he "outed himself" with that comment sounds deliberately obtuse. He very well could have been closeted, especially given the era, and though its natural to make assumptions about people, making declarative statements like that? Come on now.
@adisacohen4930 this wasn't today, that was like 30+yrs ago. Yes, the public would've absolutely called that "gay." It was a less enlightened time, but let's not act like it didn't exist. I can totally see people back then saying he's gay from that comment
You sound ignorant as heck! Every Lither album has sold million or over million records! Every album since 1981. So you are a lie!
I've been a life long fan of Luther's. I spotted him & his voice when he was with David Bowie. This was done from the few point of the black woman who says, "I know but if he don't want to talk about, it's none of my business." Isn't it interesting how it seems ok for the black community to bring up ANY & EVERY THING about Whitney's sexuality, which was also very much in the closet, but Luther as a Black Man, has the narrative of FIGHTING TO THE END OF TIME to keep it, "None of my business." I think it's BS. I want to see this but I already know it's going to make me mad.
People bring up Whitney’s sexuality so much, but they don’t want to talk about Luther’s. It really shouldn’t matter especially if you’re a true fan, but people are something else. It’s the artist’s story to tell but only if they want to. They shouldn’t have to if they don’t want to.
well put!
You look just like Luther in that image behind you. Best.
Where can we watch this docu?
Mid to late January and 2025 on HBO Max.
Where can we watch this doc?
Mid to late January in 2025 on HBO Max..
Seems to me from what you guys said, that this docu about Luther Vandross is incomplete because they only skim the surface of who he is; they never delve into the the why. I believe that someone else, a better writer should delve deeper into his live and tell his WHOLE story. We (gays, straights, everyone) need to be reminded of how great people were handicapped by fear from the repercussions of being their authentic selves
I was going to ask if there was any new information in the documentary
Mid to late January in 2025 on HBO Max..
When will the general public be able to see this documentary?? Thank you.
Mid to late January 2025 on HBO Max..
Absolutely loved Luther his sexuality never came into it for me just loved him unconditionally and his voice was unbelievable
He was big gay
Shame man. Never knew his story.
But,the way he lost weight led to the strokes, those drugs ruined his life.
He had 3 siblings, Luther was the youngest, they all died before him. Diabetes was a deadly curse in the Vandross family.
Diabetes runs in my family but that doesn't have to lead to strokes. But everyone who used those pills sped up their metabolism to their detriment. That is all I meant.