The Hidden Historical Path to play the Netherlands has a Big Loophole!

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @sampue8500
    @sampue8500 Місяць тому +290

    I just made a country that got 400 ducat income, insane man power and got hegemony in 1508, now for the trick... for the love of God, someone stop this man!

  • @therealmcromano319
    @therealmcromano319 Місяць тому +70

    “I don’t care about alliances I only care about money over everything else” nice to see the student embrace historically accurate Dutch diplomacy

  • @EbonySaints
    @EbonySaints Місяць тому +177

    Ah yes, my favorite nation of French France. I was worried that it was just normal France, or worse, English France.

    • @darkphoenix2745
      @darkphoenix2745 Місяць тому +6

      Or even worse, ottoman france.

    • @RavenFlight413
      @RavenFlight413 Місяць тому +1

      @@darkphoenix2745 Or worse: "Holy Roman" France

    • @mugen7819
      @mugen7819 Місяць тому +2

      @@darkphoenix2745 that's better than fr*nch fr*nce

    • @pascalbaryamo4568
      @pascalbaryamo4568 Місяць тому

      Gloohkaester is in french france, thats geography. :D

  • @Egemony
    @Egemony Місяць тому +78

    Looking at the "Oversticht35 joins the Republic" event gives me feelings which are not named yet

  • @Mordacitas7
    @Mordacitas7 Місяць тому +34

    Every week I see this guy post something insane and think to myself “well that was insane, but I bet he’s gonna run out of insane things to show us any day now” but he just keeps on coming back with even crazier stuff. 😄

  • @3komma141592653
    @3komma141592653 Місяць тому +66

    Damn you brought out all the Dutch cheese for this trick. Guess you only figure out stuff like this by reading how the events are coded. Haven't seen anybody use trade cities ever.

    • @DonPedroman
      @DonPedroman Місяць тому +5

      We can say he brought out the Gouda and the Edam

    • @lkdominator4088
      @lkdominator4088 Місяць тому +1

      This also got me thinking. in theory. you could change primary culture to dutch then makes vassels and make sure they all have at least one province in the lowland reagion, force convert their culture to Dutch, realse them switch back to original culture. Once you play as the Netherlands, you should in theory get a lot more land then you should be able to.

    • @S4RC45T1C
      @S4RC45T1C Місяць тому

      @@lkdominator4088 Yeah problem is it's max 5 provines :(

    • @lkdominator4088
      @lkdominator4088 Місяць тому

      @@S4RC45T1C Yes. but. The HRE is very good at having too many small countries.

  • @somerandomyoutubeuser271
    @somerandomyoutubeuser271 Місяць тому +13

    Insane tactic mate! You are soo good at this game! I don't know how can someone can find this stuff

  • @roncarv1121
    @roncarv1121 Місяць тому +8

    I really like how you give each of your strange tactics a name.

  • @АртемийКнязев-к3й
    @АртемийКнязев-к3й Місяць тому +4

    Insane video as usual. You are the best! This whole Dutch Gambit made me lose my mind!

  • @sorsocksfake
    @sorsocksfake Місяць тому +20

    The Netherlands, in the only alternative timeline where tulips were actually worth that much :)
    Awesome!

  • @tempestleeks
    @tempestleeks Місяць тому +9

    Erst Manapoints out of air und jetzt das ... bin einfach immer wieder beeindruckt. Vllt sollte ich mal öfter ein Blick ins Wiki werfen :D

  • @AkihabaraWasteland
    @AkihabaraWasteland Місяць тому +4

    He's done it again.
    PS Gloucestershire is pronounced "gloss ta shear"

  • @truegamer_007
    @truegamer_007 Місяць тому +2

    Paradox game balance devs watching TheStudent videos: Write that down, write that down!

  • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
    @mehmetfatihcetin5932 Місяць тому +7

    Servus student i know an exploit that works. Forming timurids and and enacting soyurghal grants privilege while having %40or more crownland and 10 time devoloping. While your estate tab is open you click restore the treasury decision and reenact and click again. Everytime you gain 2years of income and 15% crownland. I did qara qoyunlu>timurids>mamluks>egypt>persia run. Having more than 100% cav combat ability while having western troops amazing run. İ recommend.

    • @fster5588
      @fster5588 Місяць тому +1

      how do you become timurids starting as qq?

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 Місяць тому +1

      @@fster5588 not so easy but you need to become turcoman federation before 1490 to be able to enact "enthrone timurid prince"decision. For that you need to finish "reorganize the state" mission and gor that you need to have 150 dev turkish culture provinces which means you need to take most of anatolia from ottomans very early on

    • @mehmetfatihcetin5932
      @mehmetfatihcetin5932 Місяць тому +1

      @@fster5588 it is easier to do as aq but they are very small comparing to qq. İ immedeatly convert sunni as qq so it is easier to expand and i have additional cav fraction in army

  • @agostontoth8782
    @agostontoth8782 Місяць тому +2

    I tried it, and it's mad indeed. My setup was bad , becouse the Dutchess of Burgundy lived forever my game, so i had to integrate Burgundy manually. I coudn't develop my provinces, and took a lot of time. But still, once it was done.. you could charter half of India in a few years

  • @pierrelipperheide7981
    @pierrelipperheide7981 Місяць тому +1

    new to your content but this is incredible! do you ever do playthroughs? cause this would be worth watching, especially with how massive you got as France so early on, too :)

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +1

      I did a chaotic Succession Game with Zlewikk few weeks ago and a Roman Empire speedrun last week

  • @Wayne5002
    @Wayne5002 Місяць тому +1

    Absolute mad lad.

  • @aderaderxy
    @aderaderxy Місяць тому +2

    You could probably slacken recruitment to get 3 times the manpower.

  • @viniquecursahistoira
    @viniquecursahistoira 23 дні тому +1

    the fact that the thumb wasn't a lie is really scary

  • @mrcoffee2625
    @mrcoffee2625 Місяць тому +3

    Bro needs to change his name to "the professor"

  • @haiiro8610
    @haiiro8610 Місяць тому +3

    I know this will likely get tedious fairly quickly.. But it would be cool to see you play a mass conquest game for the first 50 years or so. With that much gold and manpower both coalitions and rebels could be overcome with sheer numbers?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +4

      I mean I did a Roman Empire Speedrun in 1474... that was also with Infinite Money (basically)

    • @haiiro8610
      @haiiro8610 Місяць тому +2

      @@thestudentYT Yes, but wasn't that roman empire save basically near collapse from all the OE after the peace agreements were signed? On the other hand, with one million+ troops you could basically just live with the OE until there's enough admin mana to core?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +2

      Yes nothing matters at this point anymore

  • @strategystuff5080
    @strategystuff5080 Місяць тому +2

    Random English fact, you don't say "Over-taken". It means passed by, as in exceeded. In the context you where using you should use "Inherited" or "Copied" instead :)

  • @BerkLeonStefanBayraktar
    @BerkLeonStefanBayraktar Місяць тому +2

    Now I want to play a Netherlands game, btw which map/graphic mode are you using? It look really nice.

  • @cyrildeprez7709
    @cyrildeprez7709 Місяць тому +3

    Can you make a alliance with the trade city , expand his nation without get agressif , expansion , and after annex the trade city with more province than his originel province?

  • @MrThefoxyone
    @MrThefoxyone Місяць тому +2

    Hearing the way he said Gloucester hurt me but made me laugh

  • @marshal7607
    @marshal7607 Місяць тому +3

    damn, you are really good cheeser

  • @syarifagathon4809
    @syarifagathon4809 Місяць тому +3

    i'm speechless, lol
    btw does it work if you play as france then release burgundy trick then form netherland?

  • @mischadebrouwer9855
    @mischadebrouwer9855 Місяць тому +1

    Being Dutch, I approve.

  • @avisdunrandom
    @avisdunrandom Місяць тому +1

    Just realized it in my current game, but the monument "bourse of Amsterdam", can't you technically have infinite admin and diplo development?
    Raise the monument, release the vassal that will get the province, upgrade the monument until it's max out, annex vassals and re-upgrade as the first step.
    Sure it's not op, but easily do able and the requirement are to conquer the province and have a money.

  • @tarunyadav3567
    @tarunyadav3567 Місяць тому +2

    New billion stack meta just dropped

  • @lopatou_ovalil7361
    @lopatou_ovalil7361 Місяць тому +1

    Power of freedom.

  • @karolgajko
    @karolgajko Місяць тому +5

    If you slacken recruitment, do "x joins the republic" events give more manpower?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +5

      Probably... but probably it would also just overflow as well then xD

    • @rafi111rafi7
      @rafi111rafi7 Місяць тому +1

      @@thestudentYT aren't players at multiplayer reaching even highter values of manpower? I don't think that it would overflow

  • @kinalbrien6357
    @kinalbrien6357 Місяць тому +6

    Nice strategy. Immaterial to the strategy, but wouldnt it be optimal to found VOC in non trade center provinces and to personally keep the trade centers? Basically have the VOC own everything in India besides trade centers that you trade company yourself.

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +2

      you can Transfer trade from them... so no

    • @kinalbrien6357
      @kinalbrien6357 Місяць тому +3

      @@thestudentYT oh... duh. Well anyway, great video :)

    • @maiddzomba8069
      @maiddzomba8069 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@thestudentYTBut it would improve the goods produced in VOC provinces = more trade money for you.

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +2

      @@maiddzomba8069 Yes but only if you get as much Trade Power oit of the Provinces as the VOC (which you won't) otherwise the lower autonomy, the Tariffs and the Trade Power us better

    • @boop7441
      @boop7441 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@thestudentYThow does your TP compared to the VOC matter? ai nations wont TC provinces anyways, so any TP you have in TC will be positive difference in GP bonus regardless.

  • @shadeblackwolf1508
    @shadeblackwolf1508 Місяць тому +4

    Is it bad that i wanted 2 additional territories to be on the Netherlands mission tree, even through WoC has very good for it? It kinda feels bad that the lands of Orange (france) and Nassau (HRE) are not in the Dutch mission tree, given that the dutch royal family is of the Orange-Nassau

    • @florianjongejeugd3902
      @florianjongejeugd3902 Місяць тому +1

      The problem is that orange is only about 1/3 of the province of avignon and they never possesed all of Nassau but only a part but I agree it would be nice if they got claims in the mission tree

  • @esoteric_mememaster
    @esoteric_mememaster Місяць тому +1

    3:40 very interesting soundtrack. Sounds like something from the 40's.

  • @rasplay5761
    @rasplay5761 Місяць тому +1

    i think by 1510 you have time to convert culture in a few provinces to dutch.

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah... but it has to be dutch/flemish/frisian culture AND in the Lowlands Region XD

  • @Merapsco
    @Merapsco Місяць тому +1

    Epic

  • @lkdominator4088
    @lkdominator4088 Місяць тому +2

    how French do you want France to be? YES

  • @gologe3328
    @gologe3328 Місяць тому +1

    You should slacken professionalism to get more manpower

  • @Pie___
    @Pie___ Місяць тому +2

    Since colonies have the nation’s primary culture except when expelling minorities, does that mean you can do this strategy indefinitely with colonies instead of trade cities by giving them independence and waiting for the truce to end?

    • @Hippowdon121
      @Hippowdon121 Місяць тому +8

      No it has to be in the lowlands ... And he explained in the video that your idea could be carried out with vassals but it's slower than this way

    • @Pie___
      @Pie___ Місяць тому

      ⁠Just saw this, must’ve forgot that bit about a province needing to be in the lowlands. I hope at least it’s still possible to do that constitutional restoration exploit a couple videos ago

  • @woodzopwns
    @woodzopwns Місяць тому +1

    What if you win a war for spoils of war, does it calculate the increased income?

  • @folkbeer9170
    @folkbeer9170 Місяць тому +1

    👏

  • @bagusamartya5325
    @bagusamartya5325 Місяць тому +1

    Tell me if Im mistaken, but the event checks for tags and not name right? So you can just left the name to be whatever it was and repeat it for how many number trading city tags (75) available

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +3

      No because you cannot create a Trading City with the same name of a previous Tradig City...

    • @bagusamartya5325
      @bagusamartya5325 Місяць тому +1

      @@thestudentYT ah that's what I missed..

  • @shadeblackwolf1508
    @shadeblackwolf1508 Місяць тому +1

    Wait, can't the netherlands use this to inherit free cores on anything within 3 cores range of the lowlands region, with the only price being reduced AE of feeding a subject? (sure that will extend the timer from instant to post-truce but still)

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +1

      yes but it is not really worth it imo

  • @Blind_elephant123
    @Blind_elephant123 Місяць тому +2

    Can player Netherlands gain AI very hard bonuses through this release/formation mechanic like Gotland/Denmark?

  • @Journey22405
    @Journey22405 Місяць тому +1

    Could you not slacken recruitment for the events that give 3 years manpower to cheese it even harder?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +2

      Yes I could have... maybe then it would even overflow same as the sailors though xD

  • @С.Н.̥
    @С.Н.̥ Місяць тому +2

    Nice bug report!

  • @Elfangor567
    @Elfangor567 Місяць тому +1

    Could you use "cede province" instead of trading cities?

  • @thommelissen8151
    @thommelissen8151 Місяць тому +1

    Would this also work starting as a custom nation?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +3

      Yes as long as you play as the Netherlands in the disasters

  • @heythere9990
    @heythere9990 Місяць тому +1

    what did i just watch ?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +1

      The true reason for the Tulip Mania ;)

  • @iulianlupastean7038
    @iulianlupastean7038 Місяць тому +1

    How fast can you get the military hegemon by using this trick?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +3

      I mean right now it would be just building time... but it is capped at getting the Dutsch revolt (so 1500) which means that it is not fast enough to be interesting

  • @Sirvalian
    @Sirvalian Місяць тому +1

    Starting as France 😂
    Had been more powerful if staying as France.

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +3

      Not really... I have never seen a France having Infinite Money and Manpower in 1544

  • @MDevion
    @MDevion Місяць тому +1

    GEKOLONISEERD

  • @m.a.t.a.s
    @m.a.t.a.s Місяць тому +2

    How is this historical?

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +5

      They declared Independence

    • @namegoeshere850
      @namegoeshere850 Місяць тому +3

      just playing the netherlands via dutch revolt as opposed to forming them; the exploit it enables is just a little extra bonus lol

  • @muhammedoezbay1404
    @muhammedoezbay1404 Місяць тому +3

    Ich mag dich und gucke gerne deine Videos, aber dass du 1000 Jahre brauchst, um mal auf den Punkt zu kommen. Das ist etwas ermüdent.

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +2

      Sorry

    • @alexmuller6752
      @alexmuller6752 Місяць тому +3

      don't be. explaining what it's all about is what most of us are here for

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss Місяць тому +1

    Mein Gott...

  • @MPLoura
    @MPLoura Місяць тому +5

    lol why would you ever do this

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +20

      why not?

    • @bilbobaggins8794
      @bilbobaggins8794 Місяць тому +9

      If you are asking this question, you are in the wrong place buddy :D

  • @BreadyBoi.
    @BreadyBoi. Місяць тому +2

    definitely seems like an excessive and cheap way of going about this

    • @Suhaschintala
      @Suhaschintala Місяць тому +3

      its not an exploit. it is an intended game mechanic that the community should definitely adopt. SMH

  • @Afdch
    @Afdch Місяць тому +2

    Sounds excessive

  • @Suhaschintala
    @Suhaschintala Місяць тому +2

    why would anyone play this way? abusing bugs to generate near infinite manpower, money and sailors. everything needed to build a successful campaign. are you selling this strategy as a genuine way to play eu4? if not, then this video should be used as a report to paradox instead. in general, i would recommend the community to stay away from exploits like this. they may seem fun temporarily but they usually destroy the player experience as he will be tempted to exploit more. i used to follow your channel content and like them when you made good guides and explanation of game mechanics which werent outright exploits like the recent videos. the reform farm video is such an example. its such an egregious exploit that you sell as if its an intended mechanic and call your run "exploit free sans birding".

    • @Suhaschintala
      @Suhaschintala Місяць тому +1

      the case in point for exploits ruining gameplay being the youtuber himself here. he didnt do outright exploits in his earlier content and as the time progressed, he started using this exploits and selling them as intentional game mechanics and it seems he can no longer go back to playing normally.

    • @thestudentYT
      @thestudentYT  Місяць тому +15

      I honestly always did both: Underrated Game Mechanics AND Crazy Strategies... Just 3 weeks ago I talked about condottiery Army Tradition and 4 weeks ago I did a succession Game with Zlewikk and the video before that one was simply about the Free Cities League modifier... So I am still doing what you said I didn't do anymore but of course I will keep going with doing crazy strategies as this is mostly what people want to see (this is just how it works)
      And btw I also did these "exploit" strategies already from the start of this channel such as the Siberian Frontiers in America (my second video) or an uncolonized World Conquest (like 2 years ago)... So it is nice to hear that you liked half of my content at least and I hope you will keep watching these videos in the future as well but I have to tell you that these 2 things were always part of my channel and I plan to keep it this way if you can understand my pov on this topic
      Have a great day anyways!

    • @Times_Ticking
      @Times_Ticking Місяць тому +2

      There's nothing wrong airing out hidden game mechanics. If anything, it makes PDX take a look and perhaps do something about the entire process if they deem it important.