Voith has some very cool concepts and products, though I wonder what the payoff is after maintenance. Having served in the Navy as a diver for 24 years I can tell you that salt water, even salt air, is not friendly to anything, especially mechanical.
yeah that's what I was worried about lol when it said "lubricated by sea water" I instantly imagined the kinds of super small ocean life that could "assist in the turbine's operation"
I assume you mean oxidation through the salty water or to put it simple rust which could destroy the metal parts? If yes, then you are in the wrong. Oxidation needs oxygen to form rust which harms the materials. In this case the turbine is completly surrounded by water, therefore there is no oxygen and no rust. One good example is Venecia, its a city in Italy where most of the houses are standing in the water on wooden beams, thoses wooden beams dont get rotten as you would assume. Although I think the lifespan of the materials is shorter then in normal use cases.
@@thebobbysisters The effects can be mitigated, though eventually salt water wins. I have witnessed it my whole adult life, as I have lived around salt water for 40 years. I would be curious to know what materials they use. That would make the biggest difference.
Well, like Jezrell said it does need maintenance, but relatively we would be doing much less harm than making the Earth 2 degrees warmer. And also it's still in development and i'm sure their not done working on the idea.
I don't think this safe for the sea life. The idea is very cool, but the whole structure should be protected by a cage that allows water flow but prevents large fish and sea mammals to get too close to the turbines
They have an installed Capacity of 1 MW? 1 onshore wind turbine has an installed capacity of 2.5 - 3 MW, and offshore one has 3.6MW. Moreover wind turbines not that huge, so it's much cheaper to produce. How are those turbines worth it?
You can install all of these in Madura, Bali, Lombok and all nearby islands including all islands in Polynesia and Asia UEA to energize all zone regions.
There are complaints about wind turbines killing a lot of birds. What would keep these spinning blades under the ocean's surface from killing sea life? Or at the least disrupting patterns in sea life such as feeding and breeding?
Strange that he says sea water does the lubricating, and therefore no seals are needed. But of course sea water is an electrical conductor, so the inner workings will need seals of some sort.
any damage to marine life would be extremely minimal, the problem is the intermittent nature of tidal power, similar to solar. Large batteries would likely be required in this system.
This part seems a bit dubious. They state that each device is 1MHw. They state that 400 TWh/year can be collected with these devices. If true, if my math serves, that's 400 million devices. They would be all over the planet, and not all offshore areas, such as a lot of the US Pacific coast, are suitable. Even if these devices are 10 times bigger (a decade after this video was produced), that would still be 40 million turbines. Please comment if you have knowledge here. I'm looking to learn. Thanks.
For innovation of this propposed power plant; 1) The sea current must be boosted first from multiple source then house in one solid channel wherein the step up sea current is now the one will drive the turbine of huge power plant . The power plant of course house inside the huge channel wherein step sea current is produced. This will totally protect the power plant itself because it is contained solidly but the saltwater damage(rust) must be addressed. Moreover, scientists obviously and no doubt can solve this saltwater issue(rust) , materials that negate rust or similar issues undersaltwater. Finally, the huge obstacle is "Political Will"
i am sure that desalination plants could use tidal turbines to off set the massive cost of power needed to operate, and if designed properly, the repair harbor could even be added to the foot print of the plant itself. just how many turbines and the logistics of it all would depend on the plant itself, but it seems like something to look into. beyond the costs of the initial investment, and the constant maintnence of the system, i would hope at some point the fossil fuel way of power production would balance closer so the idea would be viable, just a thought...
The turbine shape looks highly counterintuitive as the surfaces of the plates are not inclined at all.They shoud be inclined in order the water to hit the surface and thus to rotate it!
This appears great. The challenge is that humans are selfish and static. We can harness the infinite potential of all forms of energy through automation to free up labor for innovation and research. That is only possible if those who own what has been automated learn to share their capital i.e. they should either fund the innovation or pay taxes for welfare of everyone.
400 Terawatt hours = 4 * 10^11 kilowatt hours 1 kilowatt costs 0.11 dollars normally. 4 * 10^11 * 0.11 = 10^9 dollars Can someone check my math? I think the video said incorrectly how much this turbine makes at timestamp 0:45. I think they meant to say megawatt hours.
"According to expert opinion approximately 400 Terawatt hours per year can be won in this way from the seas of the world." - It is meant from the tidal energy of the world and NOT from this turbine.
The world’s first community-owned tidal turbine will be made and deployed in Scotland, after a fabrication contract between Scottish firms Steel Engineering and Nova Innovation was announced today by First Minister Alex Salmond.
Oil salesman: "send our cameramen to film this evil turbines hitting them fish and killin em, get the cutest fish destroyed by one of those right now, if it looks like nemo better" Subservant: "but sir, fish are gently pushed away by the watter before they get hit" Oil salesman: "I DON'T CARE, BRING ME A DEAD NEMO!"
how much will this affect marine life, current patterns, of sea inviorment? that would be one downfall but this sounds insanely awesomely helping us save energy
My concern as well. Cetaceans rely on sound waves for navigation, etc. A squeaky rotor could cause confusion anxiety. Will whales have to learn to avoid these blades by the deaths and suffering of their kin? A knick in the conduit would electrify the area? Many people think the ocean floor is barren but it is not. I don't know, we humans plow ahead in the name of 'progress' and learn by experience at other lives expense, all of which is justified by anthropocentric views. Governments will learn to tax this technology too.
@@TRENDINGKNOWLEDGEINDIA In water you mean? btw he already mentioned in one of his comments that : "the wings' rotation speed is so slow that fish cannot be threatened or injured"
@Zee Koon: We use Autodesk Maya Software and RealFlow. You have to build 3D model first, then texture it, animate and finaly render pictures. If you have liquid animations, you have to simulate them first, before you can render pictures. When pictures are rendered, you convert them to movie. Then it is the same procedure as with any other movie. Hope this helps and good luck!
@ragingtorpedos Not at all, since basically most of South America and Africa haven't yet been exploited for their natural gas and crude oil. Your facts are from conventional sources, that's why you're saying what you are. There's more than enough oil, they just like the prices high, and would like to see them go higher.
Humble Explorer If we can design materials that can resist the irradiation, thermo-physical and mechanical damages in a nuclear fission reactor core, this shouldn’t be a problem. It’s a matter of priority really.
Wimdshear is one of the biggest downfalls of wind turbines. Water is 70% denser than air. There is also seafloor sand to contend with that would be abrasive and "clog the shorts, making a pearl" in the components. I guess if you make an animated you can take investors money...🤷🏻♂️.
its a great idea but what if something happens that causes a shark feeding frenzy near it ? You do realize A good sized hammer head would destroy those things in seconds
You realise it's the size of a 7 story building right? I've never heard of large hammerheads destroying large vessels, why would this be any different?
This is to severe disruption to the marine life. Rather using this system , we have many other alternatives like, hydal by effective storage of water by improving irrigationa systems and wind energy on the land
anubhav singh chahar Wind turbines are deceivingly fast. Their immense size tends to create that illusion that they are slow. For example the tips of the largest turbine in the world can move up to 180mph!
Whoever created this cartoon did a fantastic job.
As good as many of the video games
maybe the most simple system i have seen yet. great idea.
So, what is status on this technology eleven years later..?
Excellent concept and contribution to ocean energy.
Voith has some very cool concepts and products, though I wonder what the payoff is after maintenance. Having served in the Navy as a diver for 24 years I can tell you that salt water, even salt air, is not friendly to anything, especially mechanical.
yeah that's what I was worried about lol when it said "lubricated by sea water" I instantly imagined the kinds of super small ocean life that could "assist in the turbine's operation"
I assume you mean oxidation through the salty water or to put it simple rust which could destroy the metal parts? If yes, then you are in the wrong. Oxidation needs oxygen to form rust which harms the materials. In this case the turbine is completly surrounded by water, therefore there is no oxygen and no rust. One good example is Venecia, its a city in Italy where most of the houses are standing in the water on wooden beams, thoses wooden beams dont get rotten as you would assume. Although I think the lifespan of the materials is shorter then in normal use cases.
@@xPr3am H2O is composed of hydrogen and oxygen. Metal does rust underwater. I'm no scientist, though I don't have to be to see it every time I dive.
@@thebobbysisters The effects can be mitigated, though eventually salt water wins. I have witnessed it my whole adult life, as I have lived around salt water for 40 years. I would be curious to know what materials they use. That would make the biggest difference.
That's one cool turban!
It's a turbine not turban. And 11 years old
What a joke, clive
@@clivesavill1393 someone's pissy. He's talking about the guy's pronunciation
How do they prevent clogging through sediments, clams and marine life in general?
They don't. It's a computer generated video.
I think thats what their maintenance is for...
Well, like Jezrell said it does need maintenance, but relatively we would be doing much less harm than making the Earth 2 degrees warmer. And also it's still in development and i'm sure their not done working on the idea.
Maintenance
very well done presentation. thank you from Texas USA.
Postal code? U can't just Put half Address here.
I don't think this safe for the sea life. The idea is very cool, but the whole structure should be protected by a cage that allows water flow but prevents large fish and sea mammals to get too close to the turbines
They have an installed Capacity of 1 MW? 1 onshore wind turbine has an installed capacity of 2.5 - 3 MW, and offshore one has 3.6MW. Moreover wind turbines not that huge, so it's much cheaper to produce. How are those turbines worth it?
You can install all of these in Madura, Bali, Lombok and all nearby islands including all islands in Polynesia and Asia UEA to energize all zone regions.
Can I use this video on my website if I give credit to Voith Hydro and Kral GmbH?
Yeah sure
this is an best video.and no air pollution produced👍
There are complaints about wind turbines killing a lot of birds. What would keep these spinning blades under the ocean's surface from killing sea life? Or at the least disrupting patterns in sea life such as feeding and breeding?
Strange that he says sea water does the lubricating, and therefore no seals are needed. But of course sea water is an electrical conductor, so the inner workings will need seals of some sort.
What about Marine Ecology? Won't marine life be affected by running turbines ?
any damage to marine life would be extremely minimal, the problem is the intermittent nature of tidal power, similar to solar. Large batteries would likely be required in this system.
This part seems a bit dubious. They state that each device is 1MHw. They state that 400 TWh/year can be collected with these devices. If true, if my math serves, that's 400 million devices. They would be all over the planet, and not all offshore areas, such as a lot of the US Pacific coast, are suitable. Even if these devices are 10 times bigger (a decade after this video was produced), that would still be 40 million turbines. Please comment if you have knowledge here. I'm looking to learn. Thanks.
what about organic life growing on it? like algae and so on
Very nice animation and voice and explaination
if i had own a beach or just lake this would be a good source of alternative energy.
A protective surround caging to keep dolphins and fish from getting hurt by the turbines 🙏
For innovation of this propposed power plant;
1) The sea current must be boosted first from multiple source then house in one solid channel wherein the step up sea current is now the one will drive the turbine of huge power plant . The power plant of course house inside the huge channel wherein step sea current is produced.
This will totally protect the power plant itself because it is contained solidly but the saltwater damage(rust) must be addressed.
Moreover, scientists obviously and no doubt can solve this saltwater issue(rust) , materials that negate rust or similar issues undersaltwater.
Finally, the huge obstacle is "Political Will"
Destiny and evolution of the most important thing
Great explanation. Great animation. Great 💡
@Rondeep Bora: Thak you soooo much :)
Can we predict any weather change potential with modern technologies in order to also help with climate change?
i think its a great idea
i am sure that desalination plants could use tidal turbines to off set the massive cost of power needed to operate, and if designed properly, the repair harbor could even be added to the foot print of the plant itself. just how many turbines and the logistics of it all would depend on the plant itself, but it seems like something to look into. beyond the costs of the initial investment, and the constant maintnence of the system, i would hope at some point the fossil fuel way of power production would balance closer so the idea would be viable, just a thought...
@Overwatch242 Foodforthought : Thank you very much for your comment. It is great that you make thoughts about it.
The turbine shape looks highly counterintuitive as the surfaces of the plates are not inclined at all.They shoud be inclined in order the water to hit the surface and thus to rotate it!
Hello from Catalonia. could someone tell me what is the speed of the water in that area?
Al mediterrani no hi ha grans corrents marines ni marees com als oceans, així que imagino que aquesta solució no és molt viable aquí
This appears great. The challenge is that humans are selfish and static. We can harness the infinite potential of all forms of energy through automation to free up labor for innovation and research. That is only possible if those who own what has been automated learn to share their capital i.e. they should either fund the innovation or pay taxes for welfare of everyone.
Nice, sliced shark meat is a bonus
What about ocean ecosystem...can be it cause damage to them 😭?
what about noise in sea and what is the reaction by animal in sea
What is a Turban? (Pointing out how funny the pronunciation sounds to British ears).
the minimalistic approach in design is great, the idea is great, but why oh why there is so small interest in such solutions?
why not strap these things to off shore wind turbines? then the same hardware can produce twice the power?
@2112design one of the very best comments here.
Also attached them to oil platforms.
Also to moorings
Etc
turbine doesnt move that much faster to slice fishes,fishes are much faster than the blades of turbine
Wow this is awesome
A floating buoys tidal wave system can also be a solution
this vdeo helped for my seminar
Though it is a good idea to generate energy, what about aquatic animals. it will disturb their Ecosystem.
Bring it on!
Is this technology being implemented anywhere currently?
@ Richard Mondio: We have no information on whether this technology has been implemented or not.
400 Terawatt hours = 4 * 10^11 kilowatt hours
1 kilowatt costs 0.11 dollars normally.
4 * 10^11 * 0.11 = 10^9 dollars
Can someone check my math? I think the video said incorrectly how much this turbine makes at timestamp 0:45. I think they meant to say megawatt hours.
"According to expert opinion approximately 400 Terawatt hours per year can be won in this way from the seas of the world." - It is meant from the tidal energy of the world and NOT from this turbine.
The world’s first community-owned tidal turbine will be made and deployed in Scotland, after a fabrication contract between Scottish firms Steel Engineering and Nova Innovation was announced today by First Minister Alex Salmond.
very interesting video... I just hope you can own 2 or more tidal turbine bbut I think it would be impossible..
Oil salesman:
"send our cameramen to film this evil turbines hitting them fish and killin em, get the cutest fish destroyed by one of those right now, if it looks like nemo better"
Subservant:
"but sir, fish are gently pushed away by the watter before they get hit"
Oil salesman:
"I DON'T CARE, BRING ME A DEAD NEMO!"
how much will this affect marine life, current patterns, of sea inviorment? that would be one downfall but this sounds insanely awesomely helping us save energy
My concern as well. Cetaceans rely on sound waves for navigation, etc. A squeaky rotor could cause confusion anxiety. Will whales have to learn to avoid these blades by the deaths and suffering of their kin? A knick in the conduit would electrify the area? Many people think the ocean floor is barren but it is not. I don't know, we humans plow ahead in the name of 'progress' and learn by experience at other lives expense, all of which is justified by anthropocentric views. Governments will learn to tax this technology too.
@@aquasight1019 Keep using fossil fuels then and see what happens to the whales you profess to care so much about
very beautiful film..good also ripping ideal...
Could this be used in Rivers?
This is the most harmful thing for aquatic animals. PLEASE ALSO THINK ABOUT OTHER CREATURE, They also have equal right on earth.
@@TRENDINGKNOWLEDGEINDIA In water you mean? btw he already mentioned in one of his comments that : "the wings' rotation speed is so slow that fish cannot be threatened or injured"
voith introduces the whaleshredder 2000! go srhed everything today!
I doubt it will harm many creatures; even curious ones
If it made money vs. cost money someone would be doing this en masse. This video is from 2009. 22 years enough time to prove it out.
Didn’t know it’s 2031
this is a good idea... But what about the aquatic life. if any aquatic come in contact of blade i think that animal is no more.........
Hi !! How can i creat videos like that ?!
@Zee Koon: We use Autodesk Maya Software and RealFlow. You have to build 3D model first, then texture it, animate and finaly render pictures. If you have liquid animations, you have to simulate them first, before you can render pictures. When pictures are rendered, you convert them to movie. Then it is the same procedure as with any other movie. Hope this helps and good luck!
looks good m8
Brilliant
@ragingtorpedos Not at all, since basically most of South America and Africa haven't yet been exploited for their natural gas and crude oil. Your facts are from conventional sources, that's why you're saying what you are. There's more than enough oil, they just like the prices high, and would like to see them go higher.
I hope that they've already figure out the sea salt corrodes metals. I'd like to see this model.
Humble Explorer If we can design materials that can resist the irradiation, thermo-physical and mechanical damages in a nuclear fission reactor core, this shouldn’t be a problem. It’s a matter of priority really.
@@jrf9735 make the surface out of pure gold plate, make sure nothing can rub it off, perhaps that’ll work ;)
@@strictnonconformist7369 great idea but not a very economic solution I feel.
Can you please tell me books for gorlov tidal turbines for design purpose
sorry, we don't know about that
How far off the coastline do these need to be installed?
That depends on the depth of the water
@@IdeasfortheGreenPlanet at what depth is this best suitable?
How many sold?
NICE VIDEO
:)
Super excellent ferrocuous
That's kilowatts per sq or cubic meter, 8 upto 100.
Double Thumb's Up!
excelente!!!!
So basically it's a underwater version of the wind turbine system
Yes
Power multiplied by a thousand.
Wimdshear is one of the biggest downfalls of wind turbines. Water is 70% denser than air. There is also seafloor sand to contend with that would be abrasive and "clog the shorts, making a pearl" in the components.
I guess if you make an animated you can take investors money...🤷🏻♂️.
Nice
I have a better idea. For the water and air generator disaine. Can U help anyone ?????
Tidal is Luna
All other Energy is solar driven.
Good !
its a great idea but what if something happens that causes a shark feeding frenzy near it ? You do realize A good sized hammer head would destroy those things in seconds
You realise it's the size of a 7 story building right? I've never heard of large hammerheads destroying large vessels, why would this be any different?
where did you get that info?
The blades can be dangerous for underwater marine life the design needs a lot of improvement for saftey of aqatic or marine ecosystem
love tidel
I think this would cause many problems its a good idea but i think it could cause many issues...
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It sounds good.... But what about the killed fish and whales underwater turbine has killed?
There are none.
Problem is if it is too cheap there is no place for corruption!!
Don’t worry, where there are humans, corruption happens!
Compro o projeto por 10 bilhões e envio para a marinha do Brasil para construir o projeto envio 100 bilhões.
Wave energy is more better than tidel energy
This is to severe disruption to the marine life. Rather using this system , we have many other alternatives like, hydal by effective storage of water by improving irrigationa systems and wind energy on the land
Rising sea temperatures are a severe disruption to marine life, not some propellers in the ocean. You know like all the big ships have.
how does the indian head piece generate energy? lol
A guy I work with wears a Turban, but it doesn't generate any electricity.
Lol 😂
all that effort and research and time, thwarted by discarded fishing nets and trash lol
maybe a mess around it to keep fish out
Well, the fish are all dying so this wont be a problem anymore
*mesh
Good
Envio para marinha mais 100 bilhões ao todo são 200 bilhões que estou investindo no projeto.
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Functions of turbine are imaginary...its all assumption... Actually these are the design goals..
I think its nick name is the sardine slice and dice. This 7 story unit can handle whales also.
Thank you for your comment. the wings' rotation speed is so slow that fish cannot be threatened or injured
Your turbin is dirty...
there is problems whale will hit the blade.
same i was thinking....
Right, they won't just swim around it, they'll just stupidly slam themselves into the blade. Idiot.
Musicvidsetc We do have stupid birds who continually slam into wind turbine blades.
but it's speed is not so fast that it will harm the birds
anubhav singh chahar Wind turbines are deceivingly fast. Their immense size tends to create that illusion that they are slow. For example the tips of the largest turbine in the world can move up to 180mph!
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I got a better idea..a god damn solar panel..come on people
Only two problems: clouds and nighttime
Cloudy days, won’t work at night, very toxic to produce and don’t have relatively long lifespan.
@@CSWRB You forgot to add, non-recyclable
hee hee hee this is kul!
This is the most harmful thing for aquatic animals. PLEASE ALSO THINK ABOUT OTHER CREATURE, They also have equal right on earth.
The most harmful thing for marine creatures is rising sea temperatures.
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