Back in 1979 I was an engineering student at the University of Illinois in Chicago, and as a senior year project I had to come up with some innovative engineering idea and design. I was very much amazed and surprised that I had come up with precisely the same idea, an underwater power generating turbine that used underwater oceanic currents to generate electricity. In addition to the theoretical hydrodynamics calculations substantiating the conceptual design, I also made conceptual drawings resembling machinery shown in the documentary! Unfortunately my professor shot it down as he believed it was not feasible!! I can’t describe how I felt when I saw my 40+ years old ideas converted into reality in this show!! My compliments!
Interesting to think of how the Earth uses Solar and Lunar energy every day, from plant growth and thus wildlife, to climate, which again leads back to life. With that in mind, it is theoretically possible to have life on any planet anywhere.
@@donscheid97 The Earth *is* powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems. The sun is 99.9% the mass of the solar system and provides us with a cosmic 173,000 terawatts of power non-stop continuous for billions of years at least a billion more. All the combined nuclear and fossil fuels would amount to a bucket floating in a sea by comparison. The sun's energy flows through our veins and powers our thoughts even as we ponder this.
@@donscheid97 The Earth is powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems. The sun is 99.9-percent the mass of the solar system and provides us with a cosmic 173,000 terawatts of power non-stop continuous for billions of years at least a billion more. All the combined nuclear and fossil fuels would amount to a bucket floating in a sea by comparison. The sun's energy flows through our veins and powers our thoughts even as we ponder this.
@@donscheid97 The Earth is powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems. The sun is 99.9-percent the mass of the solar system and provides us with a cosmic 173,000 terawatts of power non-stop continuous for billions of years at least a billion more.
In 1980, I worked at McNary Dam as a welder relining the turbine blades in the generator vaults, ( The river runs thru them ). The dam is rated at 1.1 MW. The Columbia River never stopped flowing 24/7. Water power, whether from a river or the ocean tides, is absolutely reliable, vs wind power or solar power. This concept of submerging the power turbines underwater is the critical breakthrough needed to make this type of power generation feasible, practical, and cost-effective. As a bonus, most ocean going cargo ships can safely pass over them. It is also great that they are not spoiling the ocean views, unlike wind turbines. And they do not need thousands of acres of land, unlike solar panel farms. It's a win, win, win.
FINALLY!!!! I've been thinking about this since i first came across the idea...it is the best way.Water is so much more powerful and reliable than wind, ....its perfect!! Go go go...throw lots of resources at this concept,for speedy development, and great progress. Hoooray,.....It's happening!!
I used to work for an electric co-op in WA. They are wanting to use tidal generation and have been awarded federal grants for phase 1 of the project. Last I heard, they were planing on using the Orbital for their project.
I love the concept. The biggest issue to deal with which is more difficult than coming up with the tech is how to tap into it while not doing damage to the habitat and the animals that depend up on it.
Does not fit the economic model, be it communism or capitalism. There are many free energy sources available, all patented and copyrighted and shelved so no further development is possible. There is enough energy freely available for ten times our earth population, and then some. But if everyone or every community generates it’s own energy, then central control becomes obsolete. Remember before electricity that was exactly what happened, and that was less then 200 years ago.
@@markmitchell457 because you can’t price and thus profit and tax the tide, as yet. Somehow it appears that the sun and wind have been priced in some convoluted way I don’t fully understand.
Because interfering with the tides by putting harvester propellers underwater is exerting a force against the Moon and bringing it closer and closer to Earth. Consider the pachinko machines: all the pachinko parlours in the world are illuminated with electric lights (even though the machines themselves are hand-powered, to flip the balls.) If all the roughly 13,000 pachinko parlours in the world have an average of, say, 750 kilowatts of electric lights and air conditioning, that would come to thirteen million horses pulling the Moon toward the Earth. Slowly, slowly, spiralling in, that could be the end of us all in 4,177,934,427 years. And between eight and nine months! That's within a few hundred million years of the time there has been life on Earth. Plus or minus eight or nine months. And pachinko parlours are not the only thing consuming electricity. I forgot about all the other stuff. Oops. Be careful what you wish for. Also don't play pachinko.
Just a side note, The United States Navy has the biggest ocean simulating indoor pool in the world. Not the UK, and neither are the only two on the planet..
As a young man, I lived just outside Southampton. Most weekends, my friends and I would go to a super beach near Christchurch. To get to the beach, we rode a small, very small ferry, a man and a row boat across the tidal entrance to Christchurch harbour. The journey across the narrow channel was amazing because of the sheer volume of water that flowed in and out as the harbour filled and emptied with each tide.
That would be a great way to lose 100% of your investment. There are very valid reasons why we don't use tidal power. The game will never be changed by this rubbish "technology".
Constantly changing the unit of measurement to make these things sound more impressive... That last one they had to change to "1,000 TVs" because 100kw is so much less
25 year life with 3 maintenance periods required . That is excluding cost of distribution . However compared to the carbuncle of spiraling costs attached to the new nuclear project being built, and the increased demand if people want electric cars may well be a very viable source?
@@Potent_Techmology But then everybody everywhere would have cheap, clean, reliable power! Just think of all the ideologies threatened by a suggestion like yours! How dare you, sir?
The problem, as always, is not an industry intent on providing clean energy to Humanity, but one that wants to extract every dollar it can from what it sees as doomed enterprise.
That’s the truth and one of problem with capitalism, is it creates greed. We need to find a way were people can prosper without it effecting the better good of humanity. We need to evolve.
@@DanielStrong-mk1kk Not everyone is, generally, but not everyone is "good" either, by the same token. Most of us aren't tested to the limits of that point. It's true, there were some who were so good that they are willing to risk life and limb for others, but most of us end up being "good Germans," who just do nothing. I fully believe that there is good in everyone, but there is a dark side too.
I have to question that assessment since they can't even give a correct description of tides. They're just continuing to promote a popular, but very definitely incorrect, explanation.
I believe this is definitely the future there are fast rivers and lakes were these machines can unlock power to bring clean energy to the world. I like it big time.
statistically, nuclear energy is the cleanest, and this is despite the fact that many countries do not recycle fuel at all, and imagine what will happen with thermonuclear fusion, this is a completely different level @@sebastianstoica578
@sebastianstoica578 what do you mean "how is nuclear renewable"? What is your definition of renewable? That it can never run out? Solar burns hydrogen fuel, which will run out in 4 billion years, and with that all the wind will be gone too. So those aren't renewable. In fact, after the sun goes, the earth will too and therefore nothing about this planet is renewable. Now if we're talking about reasonable lifespan rather than the most pedantic definition, nuclear will last us for 4 billion years because it's so energy dense and there's so much radioactive material on our planet to fuel it.
Because the tide takes 6+ hours to travel around Britain, if you built a series of these tidal power stations around the coast, you would have constant, clean predictable power. With none of the problems of gas power, nuclear or the intermittent power provided by solar and wind.
Australians have the added benefit of being big enough to have different weather patterns in different parts of the country at the same time as well as the tides over more time zones.🌝
@@kitemanmusic Gas, the CO² pollution it causes. As for nuclear power, I suppose it's the nuclear waste, although I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why that's a problem when we've already got plenty of it stored on the surface (and more is going to be/is already stored deep underground), and that poses no problem, no pollution. What's more, even without nuclear energy, we still produce waste from the medical, research and defence sectors, which will always be produced.
Yes, strange thing to have said but nevertheless still true and some people are really dumb. Still remember seeing an American lass who thought Mount Rushmore was the tallest mountain in the world.
Very well presented documentary. It shows clearly how much energy is available through using these brilliantly designed turbines. We must harness this predictable energy source. Well done to all involved 😊
Just love technology , if all the thinking went into how to survive on this plane and live as one instead of warfare , we may be closer to a number 1 civilisation . But greed has us almost come to a standstill. Great video.
Nuclear energy with breeder reactors (with Thorium or 238-U using material from spent-nuclear fuel as a kindof "catalyst" to keep the reactors operational) is the last great untapped energy source on Earth, that requires 100 times less resources and produces orders of magnitude less waste (including toxic waste and radioactive waste) and produces orders of magnitude more value in useful resources than any other "untapped" or tapped energy source (most of the fission products is valuable and useful, and for each GWyear energy very small amount of waste is produced, much less than other technologies).
I hope this technology is continued to be used and improved upon. It would be great if they perfected this technology and were even able to create something for rivers too.
The main problem is these tidal streams carry nutrients and thousands of other things humans don't even know about from one place to another. There is a reason these streams travel the way they do. The wildlife impacts could be horrible and you would not know about it for 10+ years and then it is too late.
Sure bud. Name two species that might be impacted, and how. Because I don't think you're at all concerned about the environment and just phsihing for plausible ways to continue your politically indoctrinated opposition to anything other than oil, coal and gas.
@@dawggonevidz9140 Did you proof read that! Please let me know my "politically indoctrinated opposition." Since you know me that well and all. I think I voted for Deadpool last time... But yes please continue..
Your point about the nutrients is valid. But taken out of context considering how HUGE the ocean is and what a TINY percentage of disturbance this installation will be. Also, your comment about 10 years and too late is purely speculative and is dramatic without supporting evidence. So I join the other guy in sensing your remarks are more traceable to indoctrination than anything else.
Very interesting technologies for energy generation. I think the key to these technologies is "predictable" energy generation. It would be interesting to see what the maintenance requirements are for these systems.
I have been banging on about tidal power for years. 1 cubic metre of water weighs a ton. We have some of the highest tidal range in the world. Tidal power is clean, cheap and way more reliable than wind. Why oh why do our politicians overlook it
Just put a turbine within the hull of the ship, basically a hollow tube facing the tides. The wake will allow multiple blades behind each other. They can be maintained by closing the hole and pumping out the water. They will be stream line enough to always face the tidal direction and reduce anchoring.
something just occured to me: we could fill two nuclear waste dumps with water and have a turbine in between to generate electricity as well as shield from radiation. my thought was "could we make our own artificial tidal plant?" and we'd need to dig huge reservoirs for those self made tidal plants because you need a lot of distance for those. then i remembered. we are already making big holes for nuclear waste and coincidentaly water also shields very well from radiation and the nuclear waste would fill space, making it so that the whole reservoir needs to be filled with less water therefore making it cheaper.
I'm not a engineer or anything but seems to me it would be better to have the electronics above water and only have sealed mechanical bits below water? When a "fuse" blows , it's as simple as walking up to the pod in question and removing a panel. As for the "kite" that would have to have a wide berth all around it. Are those engineers worried about sea life in the same way as others?
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Some of my more noteworthy climate solutions. Instead of filling the basements, of demolished suburban homes, with sand; making a greenhouse basement topper, so creating 4-season earth sheltered greenhouses, to produce local fresh produce. I also came up with the idea to use surplus energy to pyrolysize cellulosic feedstock, with biochar dump loads, and route the synth gas to throttle-able thermodynamic plants. then the process storage is more economical……much more economical than grid scale battery storage. I also did my own local wind survey, and came up with Racine, WI- to- Burns Harbor, IN- offshore wind line as the best return on wind investment, in the midwest. Another idea I had was sitting cold bore geothermal with utility scale solar thermal. because cold bore geothermal is much more prone to success, and could utilize the same power generation equipment. and yet another idea I came with was building a continuous electrical conductor extrusion plant, up by the bearing strait, and using ships to tow a wire around the planet north-south, to harness the deformation in the earths magnetic field, which is caused by the solar wind. ------------- but a long the way, i realized the climate instability was more dominantly caused by loss of planetary carbon sink. a decade later I had the only real solution to the climate instability. but we can't get around african heroin's control over the planet.....so we are all going to die ?
This is an interesting movie, but really spoiled by the horrible music overlay. There is absolutely no need for music. Let the commentary and the film speak!
An audio expert once explained that the music and narrative are on two different streams in the original version, where the music and sound effects are much softer.
Nuclear Power was useful but we have always wanted a perpetual source of Power Generation. Water, Solar and Wind serve us Earthlings better. Here's to a Clean Future
no, all those sources require more materials producing far more pollution than nuclear reactor and building construction when account for every material used in the complete life cycle
@@Potent_TechmologySome of us would consider nuclear waste as unacceptable pollution for Earth's biosphere.. especially considering all the cleaner, less deadly options.
@@jeffreyhagelin3672"Some of us would consider nuclear waste as unacceptable..." And why would that be? "[There are] cleaner, less deadly options." No, because uranium is the *_densest_* established-fuel, and *_density_* codes for *_safety_* and *_minimal-waste._* All other fuels, being *_more-diffuse,_* are *_more-dangerous_* and *_more-polluting._*
South Korea has a tidal power generating plant. However, it is of a different format than the plants in this video. Thanks for the video and take care.
Bigger is never better. Increasing size in view of diminishing returns is loco. Smaller, more agile distributed systems are more accessible, reliable and manageable on a human scale. That's important. The power class would rather not give up control and the advantages control brings. Distributed energy systems don't need herculean might in the same way larger, more centralized generation systems require. The problem capitalists have with distributed systems is that they're more difficult to leverage centrally, to seize control & profits from the hands of the locals. The internet enjoys multiple optional pathways to deliver communications. uses multiple works is only sustainable as a centralized system.
Bold claims and blanket statements mean you're speaking from an armchair engineer's perspective. Comparing power distribution to internet is very flawed. I agree that a decentralized approach has its benefits. But when it comes to cost and feasibility, there is no truth in saying bigger or smaller is always / never better. Talk to the designers, withhold your claims, and you might learn something. But based on your choice of words you don't strike me as the type of person who wants to learn anything different than the way you think things are.
They tried wave power off the Cornish coast, cost millions to lay a hub 3 miles offshore but was never used and dismantled. People are eager to take grant funds without carrying out the projects
5 years ago i came up with the idea of using the tides for our green energy. They are more predictable and constant than the sun or wind. Also 80% of world population lives on the coasts. So the energy is where its needed. theres alot of it! It would be fairly straightforward to build and maintain. My idea was lakes and dambs with turbines in the tunnels which filled and drained these lakes or lagoons......but there might be better ways, lakes and dambs would be pretty hard to build..
How many years does it take to pay back the cost of the units, before you get 'Free Energy'? Up to a quarter of the electricity for the island? Is that all? They need three more units! This is crazy expensive!
YES. The whole project is ridiculous and laughable compared to nuclear energy. People think something looks cool and get excited about it but the price and power output leave this with no place for production. Not to mention if it was successful, cheaper and made way more power it would obliterate marine life.
@@lukeroetling8543 dumping nuclear waste into the ocean when a ship runs aground and breaks up off Southampton instead of carting it to Africa to be buried for the next 20,000 years on the other hand would be much better for the marine environment. Yes I see your logic. And raise you a pinhead.
@@lukeroetling8543everything has a break-even point. I suggest you think more broadly and ask questions such as how long the designed lifecycle is, and where the BEP is with respect to it. Secondly, you are obviously here not to be sincere but rather to push nuclear, otherwise you would have suggested other forms of energy. Guess what, it requires energy to mine for uranium, and energy to enrich it, and ... it is non-renewable. I'm not against nuclear, it has its place. But I have a concern for chewing up the planet when digging for Uranium, particularly when only 0.7% of it is useful. Not sure if you have all of that considered, but considering you are suggesting a singular approach to energy I would guess not.
It is really amazing how human is harnessing nature powers. underwater power generating turbines which use sea currents to produce electricity. The moon helps us create electricity.
How much wildlife will succumb to these fast blades? I love the concept from an engineering standpoint, but there's no denying it could be a major visual blight. Maybe make it into a fishing pier? Bridge?
Regarding the "kite" version: The gyroscopes used to orient the kite and control its motion need a system to calibrate it periodically or the inherent drift associated with gyroscopes (regardless of type or accuracy) will turn up to down and cause aberrant behavior or a crash into the seafloor.
Curious to know what happens when a fishing net, ropes or anchor lines, and maybe debris like trees and branches get tangled. Water carries almost anything that gets in it a long way. I have heard stories about something that was thrown into the ocean near Tahiti ending up on the shores of Delaware before. So yeah…I’m curious how they prevent tangles such as these with water turbines.
They do what they do now with the millions of underwater propellers on ships all over the world, they cut them clean, normally using divers or ROV's, or they lift them out to service and clean them.
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The problem is the low velocity, but calculate it yourself Best case: horizontal turbine P = (2/3 speed)³ × density × disc area The problem is the limited blade lenght and the very low velocity : a few knots Evaluate it yourself 1 knot = 1.944 m/sec
@@busking6292 Like on a wind turbine, the low speed must be increased.. For that I have a solution:: a speed increasing multistage transmission that does not use the convetional planetary system where fatigue on the teeth is the limiting factor, It is a gearless speed increaser with very low friction and as a result the efficiency is high.
20,000 people at what cost? How many gigawatts of energy was used to make and maintain (including mining) and finally what is the life expectancy. These are the numbers that we should be caring about. Salt water is an extreme environment and needs lots of maintenance.
I'm half way into this advertising video and not a word about cost! Cost is the most important input for any new technology and they are not even discussing it.
Hmmm, like for instance oil-rigs? Who stand in salt water in the sea but does not produce clean energy? What are people suddenly concerned about the impact of clean energy and forgetting the massiv impact the extraction of fossil fuels has on the climate and enviroment?
@@media4massesundervisning314 Not sure how you got that I was pro oil rigs. What I said is spending crazy amounts of money for a small population is not a solution for both cost and environmental impact. Nuclear and Solar are my personal favorites that can be cost effective.
I don't want to be a nay sayer but I must point out energy cannot come from nowhere. If the tides at the moment are in oscillation then removal of energy would be serious. If the tides are currently losing all their energy to friction then the power we remove merely removes some of the loss to friction. But I don't KNOW the answer and I bet no one else does either. Basically if you STOP water from flowing around the world the consequences to weather and climate alone are beyond imagination. Believing it to be limitless without consequences was what got us into trouble with fossil fuels. What you should never forget is that the energy in tides comes from the rotation of the earth. It is hard to see us taking enough energy to slow the earth markedly but I can remember when no one imagined that our use of fossil fuels could alter the whole earth.
I am sure that counries and companies rich in natural gas, coal and oil will be so fond of this 😀 I would say we are still few hundred years till this will be everywhere
Actually, ocean surface waves have at least three orders of magnitude (1000 times as much kinetic energy) when offshore seas and swell are converted to plunging waves, on-demand, as need, in non-storm conditions. During storms, Wave Energy Conversion (WEC) devices can be lowered to optimal depth for continued operations.
What needs to be borne in mind is that the power produced by these machines is "green" or "sustainable" only after they've generated the power used in manufacturing and maintaining them. Finding breakdowns of these numbers seems to be impossible. My suspicion is that they barely repay that energy debt, if at all (IOW they are NOT 'green') and their usefulness is in their portability and being able to move power generation capacity to remote areas where, for whatever reason, extending the grid is impractical (I don't actually see what impracticalities those would be - ETA >> cables can be laid practically anywhere).
I have been seeing projects proposed for the last fifty years that have ideas to use water energy to generate electricity. One used two floating platforms which had either hydraulic or mechanical bears to make the moving platforms moving on the waves generate mechanical energy in to electrical power. Another was a hydraulic screw (propeller) that would be submerged into a large river and would turn because of the flow of the river's current. This would then generate electrical power. Another was tidal flow much like the river flow. Unfortunately, everything man made that moves eventually breaks. The long term (10 years or more) feasibility of these projects tend to fail because they cost more than the existing generation of electrical power.
Removing the energy from the seashore waves would never have any consequences to fish and the coral and crabs and anything else needing oxygen in the water right?
Tidals don't make waves. Wind does. A generator at the bottom of the sea would not have any effekt. The rotor blades might kill fish but our modern fishing methods kills way more than even thousands of generator would. So windmills are the threat to fish, right?
Actually it runs in Britanny, France, since over half a century, with a dam under a bridge built in 1966 on the Rance River between Dinard and Saint-Malo. And it was the unique example the remained the largest installation before another production unit was open in 2011 in South Korea.
Canada has tried underwater turbines. The tests apparently failed because of the effects of the salt water and they've shelved the project as being unprofitable.
The internal water leak is the dead end of any electrical project, so better use surface tidal energy than internal. No Water seal with armature and bearing can last long in water.
The idea of using the tides for energy is brilliant, whoever's designing this system you'd better watch out, huge oil companies don't like new energy ideas, especially ones that could make clean, reliable, endless energy.
It’s a cyclical event that cannot be stopped no matter what you think or do, I always spoke out regarding the massive amount of energy that could be produced from the tidal flow utilizing the rise and fall and the massive currents
The servicing and cleaning the sea life off these turbines is key to making them work, hopefully they can figure it out since this is just energy on the table we can use!
They built one tidal energy plant in France, as the documentary highlighted it was very expensive to build and they never reconducted the experiment. The idea looks really cool, but I'll believe it when I see it run for several years without a hitch. I really question the longevity of each turbine - if they have to be maintained too frequenty, economically it stops making sense.
There's a huge price to pay for challenging the sun, the wind, and the ocean on a large scale. They're all super destructive and always win. Men can use them in small ways, but mankind is no match for them.
Back in 1979 I was an engineering student at the University of Illinois in Chicago, and as a senior year project I had to come up with some innovative engineering idea and design. I was very much amazed and surprised that I had come up with precisely the same idea, an underwater power generating turbine that used underwater oceanic currents to generate electricity. In addition to the theoretical hydrodynamics calculations substantiating the conceptual design, I also made conceptual drawings resembling machinery shown in the documentary! Unfortunately my professor shot it down as he believed it was not feasible!! I can’t describe how I felt when I saw my 40+ years old ideas converted into reality in this show!! My compliments!
Interesting to think of how the Earth uses Solar and Lunar energy every day, from plant growth and thus wildlife, to climate, which again leads back to life. With that in mind, it is theoretically possible to have life on any planet anywhere.
@@donscheid97 The Earth *is* powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems. The sun is 99.9% the mass of the solar system and provides us with a cosmic 173,000 terawatts of power non-stop continuous for billions of years at least a billion more. All the combined nuclear and fossil fuels would amount to a bucket floating in a sea by comparison. The sun's energy flows through our veins and powers our thoughts even as we ponder this.
@@donscheid97 The Earth is powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems. The sun is 99.9-percent the mass of the solar system and provides us with a cosmic 173,000 terawatts of power non-stop continuous for billions of years at least a billion more. All the combined nuclear and fossil fuels would amount to a bucket floating in a sea by comparison. The sun's energy flows through our veins and powers our thoughts even as we ponder this.
@@donscheid97 The Earth is powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems. The sun is 99.9-percent the mass of the solar system and provides us with a cosmic 173,000 terawatts of power non-stop continuous for billions of years at least a billion more.
@@donscheid97 The Earth is powered by the sun almost completely from the biosphere to the weather systems.
In 1980, I worked at McNary Dam as a welder relining the turbine blades in the generator vaults, ( The river runs thru them ). The dam is rated at 1.1 MW. The Columbia River never stopped flowing 24/7. Water power, whether from a river or the ocean tides, is absolutely reliable, vs wind power or solar power. This concept of submerging the power turbines underwater is the critical breakthrough needed to make this type of power generation feasible, practical, and cost-effective. As a bonus, most ocean going cargo ships can safely pass over them. It is also great that they are not spoiling the ocean views, unlike wind turbines. And they do not need thousands of acres of land, unlike solar panel farms. It's a win, win, win.
I've really enjoyed this documentary, thanks so much 👍
FINALLY!!!! I've been thinking about this since i first came across the idea...it is the best way.Water is so much more powerful and reliable than wind, ....its perfect!! Go go go...throw lots of resources at this concept,for speedy development, and great progress. Hoooray,.....It's happening!!
I used to work for an electric co-op in WA. They are wanting to use tidal generation and have been awarded federal grants for phase 1 of the project. Last I heard, they were planing on using the Orbital for their project.
Hook me up please! I would love to be involved in a project like that! Contact me!
the first 3 comments: i worked here, i worked there, i did this, i did that.
Who cares?
Horizontal Falls? Great spot just no population
I love the concept. The biggest issue to deal with which is more difficult than coming up with the tech is how to tap into it while not doing damage to the habitat and the animals that depend up on it.
@PaxAlotin-j6r - I really doubt your demand is going to reach anyone or any group. You want something done, get working on it yourself
@PaxAlotin-j6r Your intuition is excellent, hopefully it gets developed sooner than later.
22:39 they speak to this
I'm 71, and have wondered why we didn't use tidal power since I was 15, and saw the primate tidal generators in Britain.
Does not fit the economic model, be it communism or capitalism.
There are many free energy sources available, all patented and copyrighted and shelved so no further development is possible.
There is enough energy freely available for ten times our earth population, and then some.
But if everyone or every community generates it’s own energy, then central control becomes obsolete.
Remember before electricity that was exactly what happened, and that was less then 200 years ago.
Same here i even did a study on it in high school
@@markmitchell457 because you can’t price and thus profit and tax the tide, as yet.
Somehow it appears that the sun and wind have been priced in some convoluted way I don’t fully understand.
Because interfering with the tides by putting harvester propellers underwater is exerting a force against the Moon and bringing it closer and closer to Earth.
Consider the pachinko machines: all the pachinko parlours in the world are illuminated with electric lights (even though the machines themselves are hand-powered, to flip the balls.)
If all the roughly 13,000 pachinko parlours in the world have an average of, say, 750 kilowatts of electric lights and air conditioning, that would come to thirteen million horses pulling the Moon toward the Earth.
Slowly, slowly, spiralling in, that could be the end of us all in 4,177,934,427 years.
And between eight and nine months!
That's within a few hundred million years of the time there has been life on Earth. Plus or minus eight or nine months. And pachinko parlours are not the only thing consuming electricity. I forgot about all the other stuff. Oops.
Be careful what you wish for.
Also don't play pachinko.
I am 50,and Dutch...but i did the same. Wondering why this wasnt getting developed sooner....But it seems they finally got the memo...Great stuff!!
What a great documentary. No frills, bells and whistles like most American documentaries there days. Loved it.
The future is bright with this technology. The documentary is well worth watching to learn about these essential developments.
Just a side note, The United States Navy has the biggest ocean simulating indoor pool in the world. Not the UK, and neither are the only two on the planet..
To be honest it's refreshing to see the UK developing it's own technology for a change 👍
Don't get your hopes high. IF this will ever be made, which i hope none of it does because it harmful to the environment, it will be MADE IN CHINA.
if you can believe that
As a young man, I lived just outside Southampton. Most weekends, my friends and I would go to a super beach near Christchurch. To get to the beach, we rode a small, very small ferry, a man and a row boat across the tidal entrance to Christchurch harbour. The journey across the narrow channel was amazing because of the sheer volume of water that flowed in and out as the harbour filled and emptied with each tide.
Nobody asked
This tidal power is exactly what we need
This is brilliant and what we need. Love to get shares in the company provider. This will be a game changer. I've given you guys a tip.
That would be a great way to lose 100% of your investment.
There are very valid reasons why we don't use tidal power.
The game will never be changed by this rubbish "technology".
@@Chris.Davies The language used, is interesting, switch to Winners mode.
@@Chris.Davies Stick to your discs and Porsches. LMAO
Very impressive, and Companies like this should be well supported because this is exactly what Clean energy is about. 👍👍👏👏
Constantly changing the unit of measurement to make these things sound more impressive...
That last one they had to change to "1,000 TVs" because 100kw is so much less
Maintenance costs will be interesting...
25 year life with 3 maintenance periods required . That is excluding cost of distribution . However compared to the carbuncle of spiraling costs attached to the new nuclear project being built, and the increased demand if people want electric cars may well be a very viable source?
@@paulgee1952 or the solution is to have engineers set the legislation and costs for nuclear power plants instead of lobbies with interests against it
@@Potent_Techmology But then everybody everywhere would have cheap, clean, reliable power! Just think of all the ideologies threatened by a suggestion like yours! How dare you, sir?
@@rootuser7206 got called a trump defeatist in another comment by the green mafia for saying the same thing
i don't wanna live on this planet anymore
Yes, salt water is a pretty hostile environment. That's a pretty complex piece of kit.
Would like to see how this affects wildlife. Will barnacles be a problem?
Who cares about the wildlife! We have thousands of sky high huge wind choppers which are quite good at mincing birds
I have to agree. You're talking about a fraction of water if you think about the size of the ocean
Absolutely brilliant design, perfect execution and a huge contribution to climate change. Well done to everyone involved!
The problem, as always, is not an industry intent on providing clean energy to Humanity, but one that wants to extract every dollar it can from what it sees as doomed enterprise.
That’s the truth and one of problem with capitalism, is it creates greed. We need to find a way were people can prosper without it effecting the better good of humanity. We need to evolve.
@@DanielStrong-mk1kk The problem is greed will always be an issue. It's a human failing, not just a systemic one.
@@kenton6804 not everyone is greedy
@@DanielStrong-mk1kk Not everyone is, generally, but not everyone is "good" either, by the same token. Most of us aren't tested to the limits of that point. It's true, there were some who were so good that they are willing to risk life and limb for others, but most of us end up being "good Germans," who just do nothing. I fully believe that there is good in everyone, but there is a dark side too.
I never understood why there is a high tide opposite the moon until now. Thanks.
Brilliant minds 👍
I have to question that assessment since they can't even give a correct description of tides. They're just continuing to promote a popular, but very definitely incorrect, explanation.
Edgar Cayce, a modern 'prophet' from the last century, did say that mankind would learn to tap tidal power. Glad to see it finally materialize.
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Fascinating, commentary brilliant with punacular interjection from begining to end and forwarded THANKS
It was done years ago in France. It was so successful that no one has ever bothered to do it again...
Cayce was a quack. Leave it to the engineers. Fusion will be the final power source
I believe this is definitely the future there are fast rivers and lakes were these machines can unlock power to bring clean energy
to the world. I like it big time.
Can we start with nuclear power if we are going to get serious about the environment and unleashing the potential of renewable energy?
How is nuclear power renewable?
@@sebastianstoica578 that is why he said "and"
statistically, nuclear energy is the cleanest, and this is despite the fact that many countries do not recycle fuel at all, and imagine what will happen with thermonuclear fusion, this is a completely different level @@sebastianstoica578
@@sebastianstoica578 Did you not read the whole sentence?
@sebastianstoica578 what do you mean "how is nuclear renewable"? What is your definition of renewable? That it can never run out? Solar burns hydrogen fuel, which will run out in 4 billion years, and with that all the wind will be gone too. So those aren't renewable. In fact, after the sun goes, the earth will too and therefore nothing about this planet is renewable.
Now if we're talking about reasonable lifespan rather than the most pedantic definition, nuclear will last us for 4 billion years because it's so energy dense and there's so much radioactive material on our planet to fuel it.
Because the tide takes 6+ hours to travel around Britain, if you built a series of these tidal power stations around the coast, you would have constant, clean predictable power. With none of the problems of gas power, nuclear or the intermittent power provided by solar and wind.
Australians have the added benefit of being big enough to have different weather patterns in different parts of the country at the same time as well as the tides over more time zones.🌝
UK. We would rather spend our cash on improving the lives of people who want us to look after their needs.
What problems of gas power and nuclear?
@@kitemanmusic Gas, the CO² pollution it causes. As for nuclear power, I suppose it's the nuclear waste, although I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why that's a problem when we've already got plenty of it stored on the surface (and more is going to be/is already stored deep underground), and that poses no problem, no pollution.
What's more, even without nuclear energy, we still produce waste from the medical, research and defence sectors, which will always be produced.
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It may be cyclical, but that is 100% reliable - a good way to ease pressure off of gas & oil. And... the power of water is astounding.
Every bridge in the world should be turned into a power station.
When you think about it, they are saving energy from being wasted. 😊
With sufficient current.
The planned bridge between Ireland and Scotland will accommodate Marine Turbines, there are good
currents.
Stability of the bridges are another issue.
Every bridge in the world does not span a tidal flow channel. Dumbass.
"The moon is closer to the earths surface than it is to the centre of the planet" (03:48). Really? Oh boy, we're all doomed!
Yes,I tried to analyse what he was trying to say there,stating the bloody obvious was also evident,I think they were unsure of their target audience.
Yes, strange thing to have said but nevertheless still true and some people are really dumb.
Still remember seeing an American lass who thought Mount Rushmore was the tallest mountain in the world.
well the moon rotates arround earth in an uneven circulation so i dont know what the closest and the farest values are
You gotta love Penny and her enthusiasm.
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Very well presented documentary. It shows clearly how much energy is available through using these brilliantly designed turbines. We must harness this predictable energy source. Well done to all involved 😊
Thank you …I was involved ❤
Just love technology , if all the thinking went into how to survive on this plane and live as one instead of warfare , we may be closer to a number 1 civilisation . But greed has us almost come to a standstill. Great video.
Just imagine how many fish will be turned into sushi 😂
Dude is working 2hours a day every other day, that is dream job, I'm IN !
I work 0.0 hours per day. 2 hrs every other days is way too much.
Nuclear energy with breeder reactors (with Thorium or 238-U using material from spent-nuclear fuel as a kindof "catalyst" to keep the reactors operational) is the last great untapped energy source on Earth, that requires 100 times less resources and produces orders of magnitude less waste (including toxic waste and radioactive waste) and produces orders of magnitude more value in useful resources than any other "untapped" or tapped energy source (most of the fission products is valuable and useful, and for each GWyear energy very small amount of waste is produced, much less than other technologies).
now you are talking good cense, I wish all government listen to you
Amazing technology! I hope we all of those ideas will hot ourselves out of petro and gas dynasty ASAP
I wish that I could get directly involved with this ground breaking and exciting technology.
Go for it…it’s your destiny!
I hope this technology is continued to be used and improved upon. It would be great if they perfected this technology and were even able to create something for rivers too.
The main problem is these tidal streams carry nutrients and thousands of other things humans don't even know about from one place to another. There is a reason these streams travel the way they do. The wildlife impacts could be horrible and you would not know about it for 10+ years and then it is too late.
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Sure bud. Name two species that might be impacted, and how. Because I don't think you're at all concerned about the environment and just phsihing for plausible ways to continue your politically indoctrinated opposition to anything other than oil, coal and gas.
@@dawggonevidz9140 Did you proof read that! Please let me know my "politically indoctrinated opposition." Since you know me that well and all. I think I voted for Deadpool last time... But yes please continue..
Someone didn't pay attention to the video, I think ;)
Your point about the nutrients is valid. But taken out of context considering how HUGE the ocean is and what a TINY percentage of disturbance this installation will be. Also, your comment about 10 years and too late is purely speculative and is dramatic without supporting evidence. So I join the other guy in sensing your remarks are more traceable to indoctrination than anything else.
Can’t believe we never did Thermal gradient power generation
Very interesting technologies for energy generation. I think the key to these technologies is "predictable" energy generation. It would be interesting to see what the maintenance requirements are for these systems.
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First I have heard of this. Well done.
Figures are astounding ! . Tech. these guys are F1. ❤ Thanks all. Dave
Thanks for this great documentary, very well made!
I have been banging on about tidal power for years. 1 cubic metre of water weighs a ton. We have some of the highest tidal range in the world. Tidal power is clean, cheap and way more reliable than wind. Why oh why do our politicians overlook it
I like the idea of geothermal too.
Oh wait, nuclear fusion is just around the corner.
Because it’s too complicated
@@ronniew3229ha ha…nice dig at fusion power buddy. 👏
because those politicians are republicans!
Because of maitnence costs...
Turbines in salty water wont last long
Love the street sounds from New Dahli
Just put a turbine within the hull of the ship, basically a hollow tube facing the tides. The wake will allow multiple blades behind each other. They can be maintained by closing the hole and pumping out the water. They will be stream line enough to always face the tidal direction and reduce anchoring.
That is exactly how the generators are built. Did you even watch the video at all?
something just occured to me:
we could fill two nuclear waste dumps with water and have a turbine in between to generate electricity as well as shield from radiation. my thought was "could we make our own artificial tidal plant?" and we'd need to dig huge reservoirs for those self made tidal plants because you need a lot of distance for those. then i remembered. we are already making big holes for nuclear waste and coincidentaly water also shields very well from radiation and the nuclear waste would fill space, making it so that the whole reservoir needs to be filled with less water therefore making it cheaper.
The sea eats everything! If they've managed to keep one of those going year round without breaking it's mooring I'd be very impressed.
I'm not a engineer or anything but seems to me it would be better to have the electronics above water and only have sealed mechanical bits below water? When a "fuse" blows , it's as simple as walking up to the pod in question and removing a panel. As for the "kite" that would have to have a wide berth all around it. Are those engineers worried about sea life in the same way as others?
Car rear wheel power system sending the energy up a prop shaft.
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Hard to believe that no sea life is harmed at all. The blades look quite deadly.
Besides NOBODY has the FOGGIEST idea of the impact of diverting MEGAwatts from tides.
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great production! really worth watching....
Some of my more noteworthy climate solutions.
Instead of filling the basements, of demolished suburban homes, with sand;
making a greenhouse basement topper, so creating 4-season earth sheltered greenhouses,
to produce local fresh produce.
I also came up with the idea to use surplus energy to pyrolysize cellulosic feedstock, with biochar dump loads, and route the synth gas to throttle-able thermodynamic plants.
then the process storage is more economical……much more economical than grid scale battery storage.
I also did my own local wind survey, and came up with Racine, WI- to- Burns Harbor, IN- offshore wind line as the best return on wind investment, in the midwest.
Another idea I had was sitting cold bore geothermal with utility scale solar thermal.
because cold bore geothermal is much more prone to success, and could utilize the same power generation equipment.
and yet another idea I came with was building a continuous electrical conductor extrusion plant, up by the bearing strait, and using ships to tow a wire around the planet north-south, to harness the deformation in the earths magnetic field, which is caused by the solar wind.
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but a long the way,
i realized the climate instability was more dominantly caused by loss of planetary carbon sink.
a decade later I had the only real solution to the climate instability.
but we can't get around african heroin's control over the planet.....so we are all going to die ?
This is an interesting movie, but really spoiled by the horrible music overlay. There is absolutely no need for music. Let the commentary and the film speak!
An audio expert once explained that the music and narrative are on two different streams in the original version, where the music and sound effects are much softer.
I instantly stop watching any video with background music.
Meh
@@aaakkk112 Victory at Sea is more than 70 years old and had triumphal music created, just for it.
Music by Mystery Science Theatre 3000….
Nuclear Power was useful but we have always wanted a perpetual source of Power Generation. Water, Solar and Wind serve us Earthlings better. Here's to a Clean Future
no, all those sources require more materials producing far more pollution than nuclear reactor and building construction when account for every material used in the complete life cycle
@@Potent_TechmologyClassic case of trump defeatism.
@@Potent_TechmologySome of us would consider nuclear waste as unacceptable pollution for Earth's biosphere.. especially considering all the cleaner, less deadly options.
Work with the Planet and not against 🤝
@@jeffreyhagelin3672"Some of us would consider nuclear waste as unacceptable..."
And why would that be?
"[There are] cleaner, less deadly options."
No, because uranium is the *_densest_* established-fuel, and *_density_* codes for *_safety_* and *_minimal-waste._* All other fuels, being *_more-diffuse,_* are *_more-dangerous_* and *_more-polluting._*
South Korea has a tidal power generating plant. However, it is of a different format than the plants in this video. Thanks for the video and take care.
Bigger is never better. Increasing size in view of diminishing returns is loco. Smaller, more agile distributed systems are more accessible, reliable and manageable on a human scale. That's important. The power class would rather not give up control and the advantages control brings. Distributed energy systems don't need herculean might in the same way larger, more centralized generation systems require. The problem capitalists have with distributed systems is that they're more difficult to leverage centrally, to seize control & profits from the hands of the locals. The internet enjoys multiple optional pathways to deliver communications. uses multiple works is only sustainable as a centralized system.
Bold claims and blanket statements mean you're speaking from an armchair engineer's perspective. Comparing power distribution to internet is very flawed. I agree that a decentralized approach has its benefits. But when it comes to cost and feasibility, there is no truth in saying bigger or smaller is always / never better. Talk to the designers, withhold your claims, and you might learn something. But based on your choice of words you don't strike me as the type of person who wants to learn anything different than the way you think things are.
I may be wrong but alot of these guys sound like Australians. I really enjoyed this doco.
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This was a great episode! Love this tech. ✨🖖
The marve;ous MIND of MAN is on full display here!
God Bless Them all!
They tried wave power off the Cornish coast, cost millions to lay a hub 3 miles offshore but was never used and dismantled. People are eager to take grant funds without carrying out the projects
5 years ago i came up with the idea of using the tides for our green energy. They are more predictable and constant than the sun or wind. Also 80% of world population lives on the coasts. So the energy is where its needed. theres alot of it! It would be fairly straightforward to build and maintain. My idea was lakes and dambs with turbines in the tunnels which filled and drained these lakes or lagoons......but there might be better ways, lakes and dambs would be pretty hard to build..
We should all be financial and ethical investors in the costs to keep using these technologies for all the human race.
How many years does it take to pay back the cost of the units, before you get 'Free Energy'?
Up to a quarter of the electricity for the island? Is that all? They need three more units! This is crazy expensive!
YES. The whole project is ridiculous and laughable compared to nuclear energy. People think something looks cool and get excited about it but the price and power output leave this with no place for production. Not to mention if it was successful, cheaper and made way more power it would obliterate marine life.
@@lukeroetling8543 dumping nuclear waste into the ocean when a ship runs aground and breaks up off Southampton instead of carting it to Africa to be buried for the next 20,000 years on the other hand would be much better for the marine environment. Yes I see your logic. And raise you a pinhead.
@@lukeroetling8543 - You really think the engineers behind the project build it to look "cool"? You are an utter moron.
@@lukeroetling8543everything has a break-even point. I suggest you think more broadly and ask questions such as how long the designed lifecycle is, and where the BEP is with respect to it. Secondly, you are obviously here not to be sincere but rather to push nuclear, otherwise you would have suggested other forms of energy. Guess what, it requires energy to mine for uranium, and energy to enrich it, and ... it is non-renewable. I'm not against nuclear, it has its place. But I have a concern for chewing up the planet when digging for Uranium, particularly when only 0.7% of it is useful. Not sure if you have all of that considered, but considering you are suggesting a singular approach to energy I would guess not.
It is really amazing how human is harnessing nature powers. underwater power generating turbines which use sea currents to produce electricity. The moon helps us create electricity.
How much wildlife will succumb to these fast blades? I love the concept from an engineering standpoint, but there's no denying it could be a major visual blight. Maybe make it into a fishing pier? Bridge?
Did you even watch the video? Your answers are in it, LOL
3000 gigawatts. Why not just say 3 terawatts. I think everyone knows what comes after kilo, mega, and giga.
LoL because it sounds like more....
Smug Europeans don't even know how to use the metric system properly.
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If you’re from America you wouldn’t know that, definitely not everyone. I’ve heard giga watts, never heard tera
@@johncamp7679 everyone knows of Tarabite hard drives.
Very interesting this devices should be in every country more widespread it's a constant energy source very reliable 🎉
Help the planet, protect the planet...we cannot destroy our planet, only ourselfs...
Regarding the "kite" version: The gyroscopes used to orient the kite and control its motion need a system to calibrate it periodically or the inherent drift associated with gyroscopes (regardless of type or accuracy) will turn up to down and cause aberrant behavior or a crash into the seafloor.
Curious to know what happens when a fishing net, ropes or anchor lines, and maybe debris like trees and branches get tangled. Water carries almost anything that gets in it a long way. I have heard stories about something that was thrown into the ocean near Tahiti ending up on the shores of Delaware before. So yeah…I’m curious how they prevent tangles such as these with water turbines.
They do what they do now with the millions of underwater propellers on ships all over the world, they cut them clean, normally using divers or ROV's, or they lift them out to service and clean them.
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The problem is the low velocity, but calculate it yourself
Best case: horizontal turbine
P = (2/3 speed)³ × density × disc area
The problem is the limited blade lenght and the very low velocity : a few knots
Evaluate it yourself
1 knot = 1.944 m/sec
Torque is the main factor,this coupled with gears then voltage regulators will give the required output
@@busking6292 Like on a wind turbine, the low speed must be increased..
For that I have a solution::
a speed increasing multistage transmission that does not use the convetional planetary system where fatigue on the teeth is the limiting factor, It is a gearless speed increaser with very low friction and as a result the efficiency is high.
20,000 people at what cost? How many gigawatts of energy was used to make and maintain (including mining) and finally what is the life expectancy. These are the numbers that we should be caring about. Salt water is an extreme environment and needs lots of maintenance.
I agree. We should just stick with readily available fossil fuels!
If you don't have a fix, don't complain.
I'm half way into this advertising video and not a word about cost! Cost is the most important input for any new technology and they are not even discussing it.
Hmmm, like for instance oil-rigs? Who stand in salt water in the sea but does not produce clean energy? What are people suddenly concerned about the impact of clean energy and forgetting the massiv impact the extraction of fossil fuels has on the climate and enviroment?
@@media4massesundervisning314 Not sure how you got that I was pro oil rigs. What I said is spending crazy amounts of money for a small population is not a solution for both cost and environmental impact. Nuclear and Solar are my personal favorites that can be cost effective.
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I don't want to be a nay sayer but I must point out energy cannot come from nowhere. If the tides at the moment are in oscillation then removal of energy would be serious. If the tides are currently losing all their energy to friction then the power we remove merely removes some of the loss to friction. But I don't KNOW the answer and I bet no one else does either. Basically if you STOP water from flowing around the world the consequences to weather and climate alone are beyond imagination. Believing it to be limitless without consequences was what got us into trouble with fossil fuels. What you should never forget is that the energy in tides comes from the rotation of the earth. It is hard to see us taking enough energy to slow the earth markedly but I can remember when no one imagined that our use of fossil fuels could alter the whole earth.
1:00 nuclear power, problem solved….
I like the stock footage of the solar plant that failed
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I am sure that counries and companies rich in natural gas, coal and oil will be so fond of this 😀 I would say we are still few hundred years till this will be everywhere
Great narration😄
Actually, ocean surface waves have at least three orders of magnitude (1000 times as much kinetic energy) when offshore seas and swell are converted to plunging waves, on-demand, as need, in non-storm conditions. During storms, Wave Energy Conversion (WEC) devices can be lowered to optimal depth for continued operations.
What needs to be borne in mind is that the power produced by these machines is "green" or "sustainable" only after they've generated the power used in manufacturing and maintaining them. Finding breakdowns of these numbers seems to be impossible. My suspicion is that they barely repay that energy debt, if at all (IOW they are NOT 'green') and their usefulness is in their portability and being able to move power generation capacity to remote areas where, for whatever reason, extending the grid is impractical (I don't actually see what impracticalities those would be - ETA >> cables can be laid practically anywhere).
Water battery is awesome idea as well
It makes sense, using the power
The sea mammals are going to have avoid these now as well as ships! They’re pretty much whale choppers.
This is tidally what we need
It gave me a wave of joy just reading your comment
I have been seeing projects proposed for the last fifty years that have ideas to use water energy to generate electricity.
One used two floating platforms which had either hydraulic or mechanical bears to make the moving platforms moving on the waves generate mechanical energy in to electrical power. Another was a hydraulic screw (propeller) that would be submerged into a large river and would turn because of the flow of the river's current. This would then generate electrical power.
Another was tidal flow much like the river flow.
Unfortunately, everything man made that moves eventually breaks. The long term (10 years or more) feasibility of these projects tend to fail because they cost more than the existing generation of electrical power.
Removing the energy from the seashore waves would never have any consequences
to fish and the coral and crabs and anything else needing oxygen in the water
right?
Tidals don't make waves. Wind does. A generator at the bottom of the sea would not have any effekt. The rotor blades might kill fish but our modern fishing methods kills way more than even thousands of generator would. So windmills are the threat to fish, right?
Actually it runs in Britanny, France, since over half a century, with a dam under a bridge built in 1966 on the Rance River between Dinard and Saint-Malo. And it was the unique example the remained the largest installation before another production unit was open in 2011 in South Korea.
Canada has tried underwater turbines. The tests apparently failed because of the effects of the salt water and they've shelved the project as being unprofitable.
The internal water leak is the dead end of any electrical project, so better use surface tidal energy than internal. No Water seal with armature and bearing can last long in water.
The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel should be a huge power producer, with simple tidal flow turbines installed, that would reverse rotate with the tides.
The idea of using the tides for energy is brilliant, whoever's designing this system you'd better watch out, huge oil companies don't like new energy ideas, especially ones that could make clean, reliable, endless energy.
They might need to check their bottom drawers to look at all of the patents that have been bought and buried for decades. 🤷♂️😮
It’s a cyclical event that cannot be stopped no matter what you think or do, I always spoke out regarding the massive amount of energy that could be produced from the tidal flow utilizing the rise and fall and the massive currents
The servicing and cleaning the sea life off these turbines is key to making them work, hopefully they can figure it out since this is just energy on the table we can use!
It's amazing the orkney islands are still there after all that wear
nice idea, but what happens when we block those tides? ever wondered how fragile and tide/wind-dependant our general climate is?
This.
Not seing a single DEI hire. No wonder they're having so much success.
I can't imagine underwater kites will be cost effective vs the competition, after all costs and maintenance are considered.
They built one tidal energy plant in France, as the documentary highlighted it was very expensive to build and they never reconducted the experiment.
The idea looks really cool, but I'll believe it when I see it run for several years without a hitch. I really question the longevity of each turbine - if they have to be maintained too frequenty, economically it stops making sense.
There's a huge price to pay for challenging the sun, the wind, and the ocean on a large scale. They're all super destructive and always win. Men can use them in small ways, but mankind is no match for them.