Does Anyone Remember Apple's iWeb? - Krazy Ken's Tech Misadventures
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Remember Apple's (forgotten?) iWeb software? Today we're going to flashback to it and explore. We'll also try to make a "new" website with it.
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0:00 - Introduction
1:32 - Brief History of iWeb
2:26 - First Launch
4:36 - Exploring My Old Sites (Oh, No)
9:36 - Making a "New" Website
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@@Amorousstake4 watch the episode : D
@@ComputerClan i got it
Remember it? I still use it every day because my modern Mac doesn't run it. Of course IWeb is a 32-bit program. I actually bought an M1 machine to do my usual work and relegated my old Mac mini keeping it on an old system just so I can run iWeb. Because I have no idea how to transfer my 100 + pages to another web making app which won't cost me the Earth.
Heard Sparkle offers similar things and even has (or had? not sure) an iWeb import. It's paid though, but just checked and there's a demo version, too.
👍
@@Smaxx thank you very much
Would you like to share the URL? :))
@@sotosoul I'm afraid not. Not on here anyway. But I am not hard to find. Molly Cutpurse is my writing name.
The iLife and iWork suites were one of Apples strongest selling points back in the day. If you had those with your Mac you could pretty much do anything you would ever want to do on your computer and get professional looking results.
Somewhere around 2008-09-ish I had been volunteering to help with tech for my church’s youth group since graduating high school in 2004. We wanted to build our own website, and while I was already pretty decent with HTML and graphic design, we had just purchased a brand-new 2007 iMac that had come bundled with iLife. I saw iWeb and was curious, started playing around, and ended up building our youth group’s first website with it. It was INCREDIBLY rudimentary and only saw the web for about 2 years before I updated it with a properly coded & designed website, which I still run to this day. All those old files are long gone now, but I remember the excitement of using it to create the first website I ever put online with its own domain. Those really were simpler times.
Spoof OS... holy crap. That's legitimately the reason I originally discovered your channel. Neat that the domain was there throughout that period!
_...oh god, Windows Crap edition is over a decade old lol_
14 years old! First one dropped in 2008! Thanks for watching. : )
lmao same, i knew spoof os before i made this account
Gosh the memories, I've stumbled Spoof OS and CC channel when I was still addicted and making PowerPoint OS back then
@@yxles powerpoint os best os
holy shit it's that old? gotta admit i forgot why i was subbed to this channel for a bit but you finally made me remember
I wish social media profiles weren't so cookies cutter now. I miss making completely unique websites, hell even the old youtube profiles around 2008 where you could pick background images and showcase your favorite videos (everyone I knew was putting the Twilight soundtrack on their youtube profile during then....) it doesn't feel the same today.
MySpace for the creative freedom win.
@@kanedaku who even uses that lol…
@@DiabloXL69 What are you, 20? Myspace was hands down the best website for profile editing back in around 2002ishy kind of time.
Your lol shows either ignorance or the fact you weren't able to use it for lack of age.
@@kanedaku lol lol lol lol LOL. Ur just annoyed by anything fun. And BTW, I’m 26 and Blogger was way more creatively free than MySpace
@@DiabloXL69 Exactly my point kid. So in the time frame I *specifically* mentioned, you were six years old. So you only experienced MySpace once it went to shit.
So again, you could not comment with any authority, because you don't know what you're talking about.
"We skip the tutorial, then later wonder WHY things aren't working..."
That's painfully me. I feel called out.
That’s gotta be close to 99% of people.
I enjoyed that nostalgia trip. 🙂 And holly cow, I never thought the rendering of that website on modern hardware would be still fine ha ha!
Yeah! The only thing missing is high-DPI support (e.g. for Retina display).
And responsive design… but that’s way after iWeb died.
@@ComputerClan as a web developer, mobile support would probably be hell to implement. I mostly hate how much complexity it adds even if you use display: grid (in css) which is already much better since it’s basically just a better version of flex boxes.
I really wish Apple would bring this back, though. I’m sure they could make something competitive with Wordpress and it would make website development more accessible for the average user.
I still gave a version installed on my late 2005 G5 tower, it came on the restore disks along with Tiger and iLife '06.. a neat piece of software. I remember it worked well with iLife and AppleWorks, another long discontinued Apple product.
I remember using iWeb when I first started doing content-creation online back in 2013. (Yes, that was 2 years after iWeb was discontinued.)
It's been a long time since I've used iWeb, but it was nice taking a trip down memory lane. :)
Good thing you didn't choose to be a mathematician.
I remember futzing around with iWeb back when I was in middle school. I made an awesome (to me) website that I was so proud of, but I was so disappointed when I learned you needed to pay to put it online somewhere. I just kept updating it and my little blog posts anyway, even though I was the only one who would ever see it.
In 2013, I decided to start working independently as a mathematics tutor (I had previously worked for a tutoring centre) and one of the first things I did was plan and create a website to advertise myself. This involved buying a domain and learning HTML5, CSS3 and PHP. I basically made something like an SPA using PHP where I had menus and border content in one set of files, and the PHP would stitch in the main page content manually when you navigated, and serve up different versions for IE and everyone else (because IE didn't support CSS3).
After I was done, I looked around at the websites of other tutors in my area. I found one that had a very 'magazine' style to it (like WordPress landing pages) that was clearly made in iWeb. I knew that mine took more technical know-how to create. I also suspected that nobody was going to take the time to read all my carefully written essays where I talk about what's required to understand various subjects, and my approaches to teaching. I slightly suspected that hers may have made a better impression than mine.
It's interesting that iWeb ended in 2011. Her site must have been a few years old.
Not only do I remember it, I had to SUPPORT it at AppleCare along with the rest of iApps (iLife and iWork and for whatever reason Sync). Also got really mad at people that figured since an "i" was in a product name it went to iApps. That was fun when F"i"nal Cut Pros server issues happened live in production.
Damn, Windows Crap Edition is 14 years old. It's been as long as XP's support cycle.
vista is best try sp2 in vm
@@NoaeDoesStuff I agree with you
3:21 And you can use them to show how much time is left until your super special discount offer ends 😂
Hated when Apple did not update iWeb to 64bit version. One of the things that brought the "i" too iMac. Just wish Apple would bring it back, or make it open source project. However never going to be done.
Still no KISS replacement for it. Sandvox was the closest thing that people said was a replacement for it. Thing is on latest version last update in the Apple Store was 5 years ago so it looks like no new development on this product.
I used it 2 years ago, for a band, a bio, basic links to social medias, Souncloud, good enough for me! I should try to find a version for my eMac.
I love that you use that mouse. I LOVED that scroll ball for several directional scrolling.
Vargskelethor Joel: Graphic Design is my Passion
I vaguely remember watching the Xbox Two video yearrssss ago before I discovered your channel again. Never knew it was you!
Ah, the memories. First used it in 2001 when I published a blog (with photos) from Madagascar, where I was on a medical teaching mission. Created and published over a 28.8 dialup from my brand new Titanium Powerbook.
iWeb did not exist until 2006. 🤔
I get a little smile whenever I spot Jenny and Retsuko in the intro.
This is what Google Translate makes of your CC Blog:
Until the bow of laughter is developed. The default course of laughter is the pain of the arches, the advantages of the players, the mourning of the fireball who loves the aenean maecenas sit, until he wants to be just, the sickness of the gas and the pain of the game. The weekend of the lake is a good place to hang out.
Very cool! I started making website in 1998, it was so simple back then. I'm still making website professionally, it's a completely different game these days.
I have not seen that classic Computer Clan site in forever, cool to see it appear again
Nice one! Thanks man. 💜
Now I wanna dig out my USB DVD drive, my iLife ‘09 disc, and see if iWeb will run on my M1 MBA. I’m guessing it’s a 32-bit binary though, given Snow Leopard wasn’t fully 64-bit.
It won’t work.
it wont work basically, since 32-bit support already dropped around macOS 10.15.
@@megakarlachofficial Hmm I don't have iLife 09, but this makes me wonder if it'd run on my 2015 MBA running Mojave?
@Karen Weiner it will likely run on Mojave.
So far, im already tested it on Mavericks.
Run a virtual machine
man makes me nostalgic i wish i had kept my old visual basic 6 apps i used to make as a wee kid
iWeb was my start to web design and programming as a whole. In 2008 I sat down to make a few Pokémon web pages, and after a year or so I learned proper HTML and CSS and left iWeb behind, but I think back on it fondly. It made simple website creation easy for many people. One thing you didn't touch on was the photo slideshow pages. You could add an entire folder and it would show a simple but powerful photo gallery and slideshow if I recall correctly. Apple wanted people to use it for .Mac/MobileMe sharing of photo events and things like that. It was cool to see you make something using iWeb again!
The weekend of the lake is a good place to hang out.
Yes, I remember iWeb. Loved certain sections of it. Loved the ability to create local type web pages. In one case I helped my dad maintain a query webpage on the internet. Made my life easy.
When I was 14 in 2010 I built a website in iWeb and won a pretty big award here in Ireland by one of our Internet Providers for best web design and best website! 🎉
Great video. Growing up with steam it's funny to see the thing before workshop
That was insane!
“We skip the tutorials, then wonder why later, things aren’t working. - Geek Motto” Needs to be on merch.
Me and my parents used iWeb A LOT back in the late 2000s/early 2010s (excluding one site which was made with WordPress' PHP kit, not their web builder), and it was very fun to use, shame it didn't last that long.
i didn't recognise it was you all along! the guy who made all those parody OSses and the eyePhone6! really nostalgic!
btw, blog doesn't work on firefox for some reason, eheh
Jump from this to Wix! Love it, the closet thing to IWeb.
Tested a lot of options out there, Wix, WordPress, Squarespace are mostly not editable on mobile devices and often times are difficult from a responsive design standpoint. So still no great alternative- am I the only one with that impression?
I do. I used it to quickly get website frontends built 10-12 years ago lol.
This is pretty sick
Wow I forgot all about this…..i bought this back in the day and really liked it, I used it quite a few times.
I used to use it for simple personal projects, it was really cool :) I still have the official discs with it.
Stop at 6:14 read specs. I have a blast laughing , half-core; dial up networking. You even predicted 4G and 5G.
I grew up with Windows PCs and only used a Mac like once or twice (Apple products were too expensive here in the PH back in the day), but there's something nostalgic about old Apple software from the '90s and 2000s.
Until the bow of laughter is developed. The default course of laughter is the pain of the arches, the advantages of the players, the mourning of the fireball who loves the aenean maecenas sit, until he wants to be just, the sickness of the gas and the pain of the game. The weekend of the lake is a good place to hang out.
Spoof OS. great memories, i still have an collection of them to this day
I remember way back when, in the times of Geocities and before then, when site counters were a thing. lol
iWeb became Everweb (different owners), which i still use to this day! Exactly like the original iWeb
God, Computer Showdown. That's just a weird thing for my nostalgia. Like I remember when I used to get Subway like once every month and a half and watching Computer Showdown as I ate. I was so sad when you deleted/privatized them. Season 3-5 of it is still really good to rewatch out of nostalgia. I also remember not being keen on the last season's adding voice acting and the 3D modeling. Still was sad to see it end with a whisper, not a bang.
If you're looking for the old Computer Showdown episodes, there's a marathon video out there: ua-cam.com/video/6cQqt91jaic/v-deo.html
The last time you could get iWeb was with the release of iLife '11. I just installed it on an older iMac I'm selling and thought, "Would anyone actually use this?" I built a couple of websites with iWeb. I even have one page still up on the bowels of my Wordpress website that is holiday-themed and gets sent to family around Christmas.
We paired it with apple’s 10.6 blog and wiki server until 2017. It worked very well.
This is all too fancy for me. Frontpage Express FTW :D
Wow I have not heard about this for a long time.
I literally just installed iLife '09 on my new (old) MacBook, just to find out that it had iWeb! That's krazy!
Now i really want to see the most future proof applications. Scripts with protocol that could potentially get past things that are entirely different and newer. Imaging if it got to the ssl, was confused, and then just wasnt.
It was awesome
I used iWeb. I loved being able to drop 100 pics from iPhoto into it to build a huge gallery page.
What else can do this today?
I remember this perfectly.
The g5 imac lives on
Loved iWeb - it - as the saying goes - just worked.
I miss it, (not as much as I miss Aperture), but it was a terrific product.
I remember spending hours playing around on iweb on my Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger machine
Dang, that old CC Central screenshot. Those were the days! We had to put a "Doodle Jump" knockoff with a CC Logo to get it into the store since Apple had (had?) a rule that prevented apps that were just data aggregators.
We eventually redid the app with my then-college roommate. (Fun fact - we actually work professionally together at the same company!) We redid the app from the ground up with the UA-cam API, which allowed us to natively pull in videos. I think the feature that I enjoyed the most from that app was probably the notifications that were built into it.
Let me know if you need someone to maintain your new website - I do this professionally now so if I can be of any help, let me know.
Oh yeah! You did use the UA-cam API. And I sooo remember that "CC Jumper" thing.
Thanks for the offer on the site. I already have some guys lined up, but maybe that'll change in the future.
The first time i ever used an apple computer was in 2012, and that was at school, when they moved into the new building, all the windows desktops were replaced with Mac mini’s, although most of the time those Mac mini’s ran Windows (all the Mac mini’s apart from the ones in the music classroom had windows keyboards and mice hooked up to them, the music classroom had apple keyboards and mice), Mac OS was not used very often, apart from in the music classroom, and it was in the music classroom that i got to use mac os for the first time in my life, and back then, since i was used to windows, i HATED it, mainly due to the fact that i had no idea how to do anything
I do want to give Mac OS a second chance though, as that first time it was forced on me at a time when i did not want to have anything to do with anything i was not already familiar with
I suggest fooling around with Linux first and get around it’s basic concepts. Therafter you will appreciate MacOS much more, as it is very powerful. One does not realize it because of all the easy clickity things Apple uses in it’s GUI.
@@jackgerberuae i have already had a play around with linux
And for a period of time i even had my windows desktop set up with a dual boot, although after a rather annoying issue i ran into i reverted to using linux only in a VM
@@pineappleroad cool, so MacOS will be fun 👍
The site seems to not be online anymore.
KrazyKen, have you noticed that a lot of major websites (including social media) has removed RSS? Thankfully, RSS is still here on UA-cam, it's the only [real] way to keep track of ALL your subscriptions. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think it's really garbage that RSS isn't supported on more major platforms. One good thing is that a lot of websites these days use WordPress as a CMS, and you can get RSS feeds from WP websites by adding /feed/ at the end of the website URL.
Edit: I posted this in the very beginning of the video, and I'm glad to see more RSS haha.
I still use a 2009 imac still to this day for script writing and other stuff. Mainly my music server..
So I finally figured out how to use my Raspberry Pi as a server and host a domain on it, but I’ve never created html pages from scratch before. So I still use iWeb on my mac to create the pages, then scp those files over to my raspi and voilà!
Each webpage on my website still says “Made on a Mac” at the bottom left corner.
I would have give a arm and a leg to get the functionallity of iweb back in the days i started building websites (99-2000) ..I worked with notepad for years ...on the upside I still know most commands, even learned some PHP/CGI and the usage of differnt databases as backend
Great vid bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Once you go black, you go Adrian. ;)
I remember using java based html/css editor, called Arachnophilia back if the day it. It was pretty nice.
"Because once you go black... You stay there :)" LOL love u!!! Also im so sad i cant leave a comment on ur iwebsite lol
Ken, I found a sketchy product. It’s called the Bodywell chip.
It would be interesting to see a similar video on Blogger.
I remember religiously watching Computer Showdown. Also Crap OS , ah yes, UA-cam used to be good.
iWeb made a clean escape from the dark recesses of my memory until just now.
8:55 I liked applescript studio
I miss iWeb SO MUCH
I loved iWeb. Wish they would bring it back.
I still tinker with iWeb once in a while just out of being bored. I code my own sites these days from scratch, because I'm a nerd.
Google has a free builder called workspace... Never tried it .. but free and supposedly good...
I member my dude kenzie always trying spoof os’s. Ive seen some of your old stuff apparently.
Nice video
Thank you : )
You can’t leave comments on your website because it requires a database to read from such as MySQL using a php file system for the front end instead of a basic html front end that can’t communicate with MySQL but can with JavaScript
Still have my iWeb site up, what is best option to transfer to a new program?
I'm actually wearing the same shirt you're wearing in this video
Loved it made a really great web site for our jiujitsu club
learned iWeb back in secondary school part of extra curriculum
Apple had cool software over time, but dropped it due to corporate profits. I wish they would understand that they have loyal followers due to this, and not just overpaying trend bots.
Same with the Server edition OS, Airport and what not
Awe, the site doesn't work anymore.
I remember using iWeb to share photos with family. Then it kept breaking so I abandoned it.
I preferred Sandvox & Rapidweaver
I'm notbmuch of a programmer so I use wix instead of WordPress cause there's a lot more customisation options, and I can't live without my 20pt rounded corners.
I still hand code in text editor, notepad and Frontpage
2022 still using it
Enjoyed your video! Does anyone know an alternative to iWeb that is also free?
Wix is a decent free option or Weebly. I use WordPress it has a free option if you host with WordPress all have their own limitations and if you want to connect a domain you will have to pay up. You can find some free hosting options but it is unlikely they will be easy or stay online. If you do want to go cheap then AWS LightSail and a cheap domain from CloudFlare is a good choice I currently use this.
remembering that, windows crap edition was published during my elementary school years... and now i'm already part of workforce
...makes me feel old, and probably you too... sorry
windows crap edition is the one thing that makes me got into creative things and desings, eventhough it begins as "powerpoint OS", now i'm working as graphics designer, a motion graphics designer in that case...
weird stuff for sure, I never knew how people maintained blogs weird way to have an online presence it feels like Facebook and Twitter came and that was it, but ofc people who were hipster enough had MySpace or Hi5 before those sites existed but I never heard of someone I knew making a blog, or using RSS or other stuff like that, such a time capsule
Where can I download the apps?
11:45 Or just use something custom, like Disqus
I'm old enough to remember Geocities. You had to code it with basic HTML. LOL