I don't know if you read your comments, but because of your videos I ended up finding a Hobart N50 locally, in great shape, for $75. All in on it I'm at $175, with all the attachments and it regreased/cleaned up. 1983 unit. All because of your videos. Appreciate you.
Hi Fulcrum! I am so glad that you found an N50! You got an awesome price! Congratulations! Thanks for watching and letting me know that you found a mixer. That is awesome!
Oh Amy in a word wow!! I could just sit and watch that thing mix. It did it with ease and was quiet. I was just mesmerized watching it knead that dough. Why is it so difficult for other manufacturers to make something like this. If I had this it would be all I would use. Have a great time with holiday baking. I know I would. You are one lucky young woman for sure! Happy thanksgiving to you and Eric!
Most people would not spend the money Hobart would price this mixer. They have effectively removed all references to this mixer. No doubt there are mixer collectors watching constantly for another HL6 to surface for sale again and snatch it up!
I think that is what it is. A bad boy. Definitely not something of finesse. Not pretty at all, but gets the job done. Those loaves didn't stand a chance.
@@EricLearnstoCook I like the efficiency of the Hobart HL 6 beater. I wish KitchenAid would consider making a flat beater with a similar spiral, is the design patented?
@@russ5024 I don't know about patent. I know a machine company bought the rights to this mixer and has spare attachments, if you can reach them (not the quickest to reply to emails). Of course this mixer is more refined than a 120 quart machine. I'm just joking. The fact it has variable speed control makes it great. But they don't mess with watts and marketing. It's smooth, and it works. We really love what it does to dough, unlike some models.
I have a Hobart N50 made in 1962. I also have a KitchenAid K5A and a K5SS, both made by Hobart. (I've made a lot of bread with my K5A.) If you look at KitchenAids with AC motors such as the K5A and K5SS made by Hobart, they have caps on the side of the motor housing so you can change the brushes which conduct electricity to the commutator. If you remove the rear cover there is a control board, and behind it attached to the rear of the motor shaft is a mechanical governor. The K5SS was advertised as Solid State, which has an additional circuit board about an inch square, but it still has the same control board and mechanical governor. I also have a KSM90 Ultra Power Solid State 300 watt KitchenAid made by Whirlpool, and it has the same control board, and mechanical governor as my K5A, plus the same small circuit board as my K5SS. Watts are a measurement of the ability of a motor to use available electricity. At maximum load if a motor draws 2.5 amperes at 110 volts it will be using 275 watts. Think about it, you pay for electricity by the watt (or actually the kilowatt which equals 1,000 watts). Whether that motor uses those watts efficiently or not is irrelevant (except that an inefficient motor generates more heat), but in the US watts are used to describe the motor's "power" because people are accustomed to it. Watts measure the use of power, horsepower measures power produced, but 275 watts sounds so much better than 1/3rd horsepower. (When you are generating power, watts are a more accurate way of describing output.) My N50 has 1/6th horsepower, which works out to 124 watts, and yet it seems way more powerful than my 300 watt K5A. I am also in the process of converting a KitchenAid K5SS into a hand-crank mixer. I have no idea how to measure the power output on that one! The N50 has an induction motor, and therefore has no brushes, commutator, or governor. The N50 motor always runs at the same speed, and mixer speeds are accomplished with an actual transmission. You shift gears just like a car with a manual transmission, except there's no clutch, so you have to stop the motor to change gears or speeds. The benefit is that with a constant speed motor heat isn't an issue. Looking at the HL6 it's obvious there are no gears to change, you change speeds just like any KitchenAid: with a switch. So the faster the mixer runs, the faster the motor runs, and faster motor speeds mean increased motor heat. There are ways to mitigate motor heat, and without taking an HL6 apart, I don't know what they do about it. It would be interesting to run a KitchenAid and an HL6 side by side with identical stiff bread doughs and measure the motor's temperatures. There's a HL6 mixer for sale on ebay right now (11/20/2018, 12:28 am) for $550.00. They say it's new. If I didn't already have an N50 I would seriously consider it because I can probably fix it myself if it breaks.
Thank you Amy. I have been waiting to see this for months. well, ever since you aquired it, Great performance! You were so privileged to have been exposed to the opportunity to even get this especially for such a great price. You should be able to find some easy to use rust remover in a hardware store for the wire wisk. There was one called Rust-Away I think.
You are not alone, have been waiting for this review/test too. Sad how the local Hobart rep addressed her the first time. Have to wonder if Hobart would help if she ever has a support issue. This HL-6 is sure a collectible item with some unique features!
You are so lucky to have this mixer. As for the rust, use “Lime Away”. Spray it on and let it soak. Get a small brass bristle brush and scrub all around. Rinse with hot water. Allow to dry. Now soak just that part in a cup of cooking oil for a couple of hours or more. Rinse with cold water and pat dry with a paper towel. Do not put it in the dishwasher. Hand wash only. Best of luck.
Thank you for the suggestion. I was thinking any acid would work and was thinking of vinegar. But Amy may have found a supplier that makes these and will get new ones. I'm a little upset with the whole NSF certification and rust. Kenwood makes beautiful attachments that are full stainless steel that can go in the dishwasher. NSF should be able to go in the dishwasher as this is commercial rated, but obviously it can't. Not sure why Hobart used iron or steel that isn't stainless for the base of the whip. Oh well. Live and learn. Thank you for watching.
Amy, in 1976 I bought a KitchenAid when it was still owned by Hobart. Hand s down it was and IS a workhorse. 30 something years old and it has NEVER so much as cleared its throat. I have 5 children and I made all the bread in the house. Nothing stops it! LOVE IT! Would never dream of selling it. Trying to find a coffin that will hold it so it can be buried with me when the time comes.
have you looked into how you'd go about servicing this mixer (i.e. ROUTINE maintenance such as grease etc.)? I don't see any screws, etc. on this mixer that would indicate how you disassemble it. Since you have one, have you looked into getting into the machine?
I don't know if you've already approached the whisk rust issue but a bath in white vinnegar and some work with a brass brush would likely get the rust right off, rusting tops is a relatively common issue even on normal N50s.
Hi Amy I have an old Hobart n50 with two whisks and both have a little rust on them, my mistake was putting them in the dishwasher, maybe the previous owner did the same to yours. Great review. Chris.
Happy Thanksgiving!!! Amy I have never made a turkey. My dear husband Kenny♡ always made it when he was still alive. He liked to cook and we all liked his stuffing so...much. We had our dinner Tuesday because all my boys were off. My Sister will bring me a nice big plate today!!! Yum Yum. GOD bless you and Eric. A fan and friend. Di Di. P.S. enjoy cooking today!!!
I'm a little sad this thing isn't available in retail. I've watched dozens of mixers reviews on your channel. Out of all of them this one seems to do the best job. The attachments also look better made than most others. Oh well!
Amy & Eric, the HL6 has a governor speed control like the KitchenAid mixer. As far I know this is the only governor controlled Hobart mixer ever created. Thank you Eric for the close video. Ingredients seem to be incorporated faster with less splashing with the 90 degree spiral beater. No instruction/use & care booklet or leaflet? The whip seems to be styled like the deluxe whip available on/for the larger bowl lift KitchenAid mixers. The dough hook too has a shape closer to that of the "power knead" spiral dough hooks . Since Hobart and KitchenAid are now separate features from one will not filter to the other. The use of components made in Sweden are a clue to compare the 7 qt.or 8 qt. KitchenAid having a motor imported from the same country with the HL-6. Motor wattage is not a means of rating motor power (it is used as an advertising gimmick!) On can compare a 650 watt Kenwood with a 350 watt KitchenAid and the KitchenAid for most, will be declared the better mixer in performance. For many, the features on the Kenwood would rate as a better mixer. People have their personal preferences no matter what the reason. In listening to these reviews, I wish the word " feel" was said less often and there were more concrete description in the reviews. This mixer's streamlined design and appearance makes it look easier to, keep clean, the fewer seams and crevices the better. Does Amy make her own peanut butter?
Great review, thanks, Amy. That's interesting about your comments about the Kenwood and Commercial KA compared to the HL6. I love that curved paddle. Can Hobart tell you what the metal is at the top of the whisk? At least the wires didn't go rusty, so hopefully you'll have no problem removing the rust. Too bad the local Hobart rep was so rude. Guess he doesn't care about business! Thanks again.
The Hobart rep, as far as he knew, Amy was not supposed to have this mixer, because it was not available to outsiders beyond Hobart employees. Let's hope no one learns the serial number to trace this back to the executive that sold the mixer. The release of this video and the previous one, when Amy unboxed her find, is no doubt, causing some uproar at the corporate offices at Hobart. Sunbeam back in the day, did allow prototypes to be used by employees, but were required to be returned for disposal. No doubt you have seen some early MixMasters (in UA-cam or eBay) stamped not being for sale--from corporate violators giving or selling items received for testing or demonstration.
After waiting for months for this video after the 'unboxing" it will likely be a while before that happens. There is no support now for the mixer if anything breaks. JennAir was bought out by Maytag and we all know what Whirlpool did to their products! At the time I sure wish I had money to buy one to add to my mixer/blender collection. The designs and color options were breathtaking! Etched glass, stainless, chrome and colors & designs were awesome. The Attrezzi mixer performs better than the most recent Kenmore mixer released.
Thank you for a good review. So between the Hobart HL6 and the KA 8 qt commercial, using same quantity of flour or caking mxing, which one wins or would you choose?
The HL 6 is a commercial machine designed for heavy use, the KitchenAid is a nice machine, but it can tolerate using it's full capacity only occasionally Wish it had thermal "overload" protection like what KitchenAid did use yrs ago with the commercially rated machines
9:46, Hobart sold KitchenAid in 1986 to Whirlpool, i am willing to bet the KitchenAid has a smaller motor but geared with more torque to equal the horse power as that large motor on the Hobart
I am the lady that is having problems with the kitchen aide mixer that spurts food all over. It is 13years old but I called kitchen aide and so they said we could adjust it by turning a certain screw a 1/4 of a turn. I did try it and it spurted flour all over again. She also if this doesn’t work it has to go to a service center. Thank you for help. I thought when I bought a kitchen aide I would have no problem with it.
Many of the smaller Hobart table top appliances like their bowl processors and feed through processors are made in Sweden by a company called HALLDE. They are expensive but are better than any other products of that type.
A little late, I know, but vinegar is an excellent rust remover. I use it all the time for hand tools and garden tools that get left outside. I would start off with a 50/50 mix of vinegar and water and let it soak for 4 hours. If that isn't enough, let it soak overnight. If there is any remaining rust or crusty spots, follow up with a Brillo pad, or even just a blue Scotchbrite sponge.
Looks like Miller Precision needs to negotiate with Ankarsrum to bring this fine little mixer back into production. Give the consumer a choice beyond Bosch. Give them something that can handle thick and heavy dough, plus anything in between. They will be hooked!
Regarding that rust problem with the whisk, I would try spraying WD 40 on the affected area and letting it remain for 48 hours maybe and use a bottle brush to work off the build up then wash it. According to everything I have read about WD 40 it should work, hope so anyway.
Hello Amy and Eric! I have known the Hobart brand name for over 20 years, but that one was new to my wife and me (my wife has watched your videos) until you made that introduction of the HL6 with all the suspense. I wanted to buy a strong mixer for my wife to make our daily whole wheat bread, and we have been afraid of the "ChickenMaid", because one time I opened one up and saw plastic in there... Anyways, my questions are: Is the HL6 going to handle a 4 pound whole wheat dough ball? Is it really heavy? What is its weight? I heard that the casing is made of plastic, is it true? Thanks a lot for the great cooking show!
The HL6 should do ok on a 4 pound dough ball of whole wheat. I haven't tried to make whole wheat in it yet but I am planning to. It is a heavy mixer...it is definitely not one that you can move around very easy. It is way heavier than any of my KitchenAid mixers.
Top part of the whisk looks like iron and the wire looking appendages is probably aluminum. At the highest speed it sounds like an airplane. Such a collection item
Thanks for the demo - Frankly, I was expecting something better considering it was expected to replace the N50, but considering it is not a geared machine, it's not so bad, except at its highest speed, where the nasty sound seems to indicate flutter from excessive clearances. Nice, but like you said so very well I think I'll keep using my Ank for my 6 loaf batches ;-)
My geared 10 quart Berkel is very quiet compared to the Hobart HL6. I have run larger batches of dough similar to what was made on this video, and my machine will do them with ease. Yes, they are an investment, but I do feel that they are well worth the cost for those who would prefer one over something like the Kenwood.
@@broderp: I would consider it as far better than an Ankarsrum or Bosch for home use. For commercial use, I would tend to agree with it being more of a mid-tier. Verimixer and Glob would each be a better brand, but the Globe is made in Taiwan by Spar. So I would consider Varimixer and Hobart to be the two top brands currently. Thanks for your thoughts! :D
That is the definition, but I doubt it is truly rated at what their marketing hype claims it to be. Test 30 mixers and you'll get a feel for the differences in what they claim and how they perform.
Hi Amy congratulations on your new unique mixer try coke a cola on the rust part leave it on for awhile until you see loosen rust saw many reviews in getting out rust let me know how it goes best of luck sincerely Ada *Bronx, New York 😍😘😋
Hi Ada, glad you liked it. Yeah I was thinking of soaking in some white vinegar since the acid would eat the rust, but then Coke has been used on hundreds of millions of us to clean up our insides, right?
Awesome mixer Amy! I'm also always afraid my KA Pro 600 is going to break. It definitely is not the quality machine it was when it was Hobart owned and struggles to make 2 loaves of plain white bread dough at a time
This mixer was never sold to the public nor any samples given to any one but employees. The fact that Amy got one and has made this publicly know has probably got someone in trouble at Hobart. We will probably never know!
I’ve really be disappointed by Kitchenaid lately. Quality has really gone down a lot. My 5qt tilt head was total junk and my 6qt Professional was loud and failed after a year of light use.
I have two KitchenAids, the first one over 35 yrs old and had to have the armature and speed control replaced, chose not to fix it when it needed the whole motor replaced. I cannot complain about customer support, always very helpful and all parts I needed for repair were available.
Have only needed to contact Kenwoods centre once and that was for an attachment I found them very helpfull and obtained the attachment I wanted@@russ5024
So, let's back up a few steps. Not sure why Hobart is stating this was a prototype. I would like to share with you what I know of this product. This mixer was in fact NEVER MADE BY HOBART. It was never meant to replace the N50. This mixer was made in Sweden. You will notice that the label on the back of the mixer does not have the Hobart name on it. Virtually EVERY other mixer made by Hobart has their name and address printed on the label. This mixer was made by a Swedish manufacturer and hit the market in 2014. It was sold through several outlets that are purveyors of commercial equipment. The mixer was sold "unbranded" without any brand name on it. I have one that I purchased in 2014 and it came with 5 attachments (you are missing two of them). The retail price of the mixer was $1050.00 and I purchased mine at $895.00 plus shipping. You will see these for sale on ebay and craigslist with no label or brand name on them. The local rep from Hobart told me that Hobart was thinking of putting their name on this product and market it to the "Home Consumer" and was never intended for commercial use. They later abandoned the idea and never retailed it. He told me that this was not and could not have been a prototype as Hobart never manufactured this machine and had no part in it's design or specifications. Consequently this is also why no Hobart attachments fit this mixer. I tend to believe my local rep and also the fact that I purchased one unbranded from an online restaurant supply company.
Well actually I have since learned from the company that they made 500 of these mixers and sent samples out to restaurants and dealers for feedback. The main feedback that they heard was that they are used to the traditional speeds of the classic Hobart mixers and write their recipes using so many minutes on X speed...then so many minutes on X speed. From model to model, the speeds on Hobart mixers are the same so it works for them no matter which models they have in their restaurant. With the variable speed on the HL6, none of them liked it because they would have to change their recipes and train their staff. So...Hobart decided not to launch it. If your dealer had some without a brand, it was because they released the ones that were made to dealers...probably without the Hobart brand. Yes...they are made in Sweden like a lot of the motors are by Ankarsrum. It is not surprising because KA has some of their motors made by Ankarsrum as well. Yes...there is also a pastry cutter...I got replacements from the company that made the parts for Hobart. They are in Florida and they ultimately bought the design of the HL6 from Hobart. They have no plans to release it...and yes...she confirmed it as well that it was a single run of 500 mixers. It was not made as a consumer model.
Amy, I watched the video on the Bosch 2 I was shocked to see that it basically only mixed in one spot and you were doing the mixing by hand I think that they are junk I think that is my personal opinion I don’t want to be rude, to me a Kitchenaid would have done it and been through with your Peanut Butter Cookie dough , before you were able to get everything scraped down, I think that the Kitchenaid is 10 to 1 better than the Bosch STANDMIXER. But the Hobart STANDMIXER is cool, I know the Hobart Name is for Commercial Business, my Parents had a Meat Slicer that we used for years I had to take it apart and clean it 4 or 5 times a week and sharpen it, and you had better know what you were doing when you were doing all of that the Hobart STANDMIXER you have is a good piece of machinery and it will stand up to what you need to be done, keep looking around and I bet you will probably find someone who knows how to work on it and then they may have parts for it don’t give up, I don’t think that you will because I think that is your favorite baby. Thanks Vannessa G. P.S. I loved the video on the Halloween table and Thanksgiving Table Scene you were showing the other day, I really loved the truck with the little pumpkins and hay bales on it too cute I think. Good Night.
I will add that Aces Hardware once used to sell the Bosch Universal mixers. However, they gave up due to the lack of demand for the product. The dough has to be a certain consistency for the Bosch to work. If you are making a stiff dough, it will ball up and ride the paddles, as seen on one of Amy's videos. I passed on the Bosch because of its plastic exterior, and Amy's review, in favor of an Ankarsrum Assistant to add to my collection. The Ankarsrum is very attractive, light in weight, has good capacity, and can do a great job if you know how to use it. Also, the motor on Amy's HL6 in this video was made by Ankarsrum.
Hobert rates there mixer in torque. The Hobert runs full power all the time, kitchenaid mixer run at different power based on the speed. The kitchenaid will burn out on low speeds with a heavy load. Moreover the Hobert runs at full power even on low speeds.
Is this a scam? There is a website called kitchenaiden.com and they are selling brand new kitchenaids bowl lifts artisans etc and huge discounts. Most are like $51 or something like that. One time Eric said to beware of scams and this has to be isn't it? Just wonder what you think if you have the time
Yeah Sophie I would be careful with deals like that. There is no way that anyone could afford to sell them that cheap. They would lose money and would be out if business in no time. They could take your credit card info and do bad things plus never ship you the mixer. Only go through reputable retailers with solid return policies.
Thanks Amy it's what I thought but do you know how tempted I was? It was just awful to resist. I didn't do it but sooo wanted to. I wanted to see what you thought and knew you would have heard of it if it was honest. Thanks for that! I see how they can get people very easily!
@@AmyLearnsToCook Yes I am cooking, I thought my husband and I would be alone this year but my son and his girlfriend and my twin granddaughters said they are coming! that was so nice to hear. Its been a couple years since Ive cooked a dinner, I use to do it every year but after loosing my daughter I haven't done it.So this year, its on! I hope I can remember everything I use to do lol! hope you have a good one too, thank you for asking!
Kitchenaid hp: In this instance they used mechanical hp not electrical. This would be the formula thy used. HP = ( Torque x RPM) / 63025. Note it is the measure of the engine itself not necessarily the real-world experience (i.e. planetary movement). Second: With a 4.2 A draw (120 V source) it is 500 Watts, higher than 300 W. Electrical Hp is .67 (assuming 100% efficiency). Numbers come from link below, note how Wattage and HP are listed separately and not interchangeably leading to conclusion they used mechanical hp not electrical for their claim. www.webstaurantstore.com/kitchenaid-ksmc895wh-white-nsf-8-qt-bowl-lift-commercial-countertop-mixer-with-stainless-steel-bowl-guard-120v-1-3-10-hp/519KSMC895WH.html
Wattage has nothing to do with how powerful a product is. It mens how much electricity is using. Horse power on the other hand has more to do with the input. Commercial mixers tend to be more power efficient with a high input. There's a difference between closed systems we're energy is constantly being recycled and open systems where energy is transformed and may be lost as thermal energy for example instead of potential energy being turned to kinetic energy. A horsepower is the energy it takes a machine to move 550 pounds per foot in a second. You see? Horsepower take more thing into consideration and is not like Kitchen aid has "weird math" for safety issues home appliances are not as efficient as commercial because that means they would have more power and can cause serious damage to unexperienced people or children
I don't know if you read your comments, but because of your videos I ended up finding a Hobart N50 locally, in great shape, for $75. All in on it I'm at $175, with all the attachments and it regreased/cleaned up. 1983 unit. All because of your videos. Appreciate you.
Hi Fulcrum! I am so glad that you found an N50! You got an awesome price! Congratulations! Thanks for watching and letting me know that you found a mixer. That is awesome!
Mate, where have you found that mixer? Please share a source 🙏
Oh Amy in a word wow!! I could just sit and watch that thing mix. It did it with ease and was quiet. I was just mesmerized watching it knead that dough. Why is it so difficult for other manufacturers to make something like this. If I had this it would be all I would use. Have a great time with holiday baking. I know I would. You are one lucky young woman for sure! Happy thanksgiving to you and Eric!
Thanks Sophie. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!!!
Most people would not spend the money Hobart would price this mixer. They have effectively removed all references to this mixer. No doubt there are mixer collectors watching constantly for another HL6 to surface for sale again and snatch it up!
Good gravy!! What an awesome mixer! Love your reviews. I've been wanting a stand mixer for 34 years, they make life easier for sure!
I love the story on the mixer !!!! I'm super jealous that you have one. Congratulations on the great find/buy for $200. Excellent !!!!
Wow.. I love the story to this mixer. I'll be on a mission to find one to hold onto dearly 😁
Amy loves her bad-boy mixer and its attitude! :) Boy I just love how nicely those spiral hooks knead dough.
I think that is what it is. A bad boy. Definitely not something of finesse. Not pretty at all, but gets the job done. Those loaves didn't stand a chance.
@@EricLearnstoCook I like the efficiency of the Hobart HL 6 beater. I wish KitchenAid would consider making a flat beater with a similar spiral, is the design patented?
@@russ5024 I don't know about patent. I know a machine company bought the rights to this mixer and has spare attachments, if you can reach them (not the quickest to reply to emails). Of course this mixer is more refined than a 120 quart machine. I'm just joking. The fact it has variable speed control makes it great. But they don't mess with watts and marketing. It's smooth, and it works. We really love what it does to dough, unlike some models.
It's a mixer unicorn! What a deal! It's so powerful.... amazing. I would be nervous to use it too. Thank you for sharing!
I have a Hobart N50 made in 1962. I also have a KitchenAid K5A and a K5SS, both made by Hobart. (I've made a lot of bread with my K5A.) If you look at KitchenAids with AC motors such as the K5A and K5SS made by Hobart, they have caps on the side of the motor housing so you can change the brushes which conduct electricity to the commutator. If you remove the rear cover there is a control board, and behind it attached to the rear of the motor shaft is a mechanical governor. The K5SS was advertised as Solid State, which has an additional circuit board about an inch square, but it still has the same control board and mechanical governor. I also have a KSM90 Ultra Power Solid State 300 watt KitchenAid made by Whirlpool, and it has the same control board, and mechanical governor as my K5A, plus the same small circuit board as my K5SS.
Watts are a measurement of the ability of a motor to use available electricity. At maximum load if a motor draws 2.5 amperes at 110 volts it will be using 275 watts. Think about it, you pay for electricity by the watt (or actually the kilowatt which equals 1,000 watts). Whether that motor uses those watts efficiently or not is irrelevant (except that an inefficient motor generates more heat), but in the US watts are used to describe the motor's "power" because people are accustomed to it. Watts measure the use of power, horsepower measures power produced, but 275 watts sounds so much better than 1/3rd horsepower. (When you are generating power, watts are a more accurate way of describing output.) My N50 has 1/6th horsepower, which works out to 124 watts, and yet it seems way more powerful than my 300 watt K5A.
I am also in the process of converting a KitchenAid K5SS into a hand-crank mixer. I have no idea how to measure the power output on that one!
The N50 has an induction motor, and therefore has no brushes, commutator, or governor. The N50 motor always runs at the same speed, and mixer speeds are accomplished with an actual transmission. You shift gears just like a car with a manual transmission, except there's no clutch, so you have to stop the motor to change gears or speeds. The benefit is that with a constant speed motor heat isn't an issue. Looking at the HL6 it's obvious there are no gears to change, you change speeds just like any KitchenAid: with a switch. So the faster the mixer runs, the faster the motor runs, and faster motor speeds mean increased motor heat. There are ways to mitigate motor heat, and without taking an HL6 apart, I don't know what they do about it. It would be interesting to run a KitchenAid and an HL6 side by side with identical stiff bread doughs and measure the motor's temperatures.
There's a HL6 mixer for sale on ebay right now (11/20/2018, 12:28 am) for $550.00. They say it's new. If I didn't already have an N50 I would seriously consider it because I can probably fix it myself if it breaks.
Thank you Amy. I have been waiting to see this for months. well, ever since you aquired it, Great performance! You were so privileged to have been exposed to the opportunity to even get this especially for such a great price. You should be able to find some easy to use rust remover in a hardware store for the wire wisk. There was one called Rust-Away I think.
You are not alone, have been waiting for this review/test too. Sad how the local Hobart rep addressed her the first time. Have to wonder if Hobart would help if she ever has a support issue. This HL-6 is sure a collectible item with some unique features!
@@russ5024 Yes, I thought it was pretty funny how they tried to say there was no such thing as the one that she had.
You are so lucky to have this mixer. As for the rust, use “Lime Away”. Spray it on and let it soak. Get a small brass bristle brush and scrub all around. Rinse with hot water. Allow to dry. Now soak just that part in a cup of cooking oil for a couple of hours or more. Rinse with cold water and pat dry with a paper towel. Do not put it in the dishwasher. Hand wash only. Best of luck.
Thank you for the suggestion. I was thinking any acid would work and was thinking of vinegar. But Amy may have found a supplier that makes these and will get new ones. I'm a little upset with the whole NSF certification and rust. Kenwood makes beautiful attachments that are full stainless steel that can go in the dishwasher. NSF should be able to go in the dishwasher as this is commercial rated, but obviously it can't. Not sure why Hobart used iron or steel that isn't stainless for the base of the whip. Oh well. Live and learn. Thank you for watching.
Do you know where I can buy a bowl for one of these mixers? I have the mixer itself and all three attachments, but no bowl
There was a company that made parts for Hobart for this mixer. At one time, they had extra parts. However, I think they are all sold out.
Oh my God, it is unique, don't ever sell it, no matter what😊
You should get a hobart c-100. I have a c-100t and I love it! It doesn't take up too much space on my counter, and it never lets me down.
Amy, in 1976 I bought a KitchenAid when it was still owned by Hobart. Hand s down it was and IS a workhorse. 30 something years old and it has NEVER so much as cleared its throat. I have 5 children and I made all the bread in the house. Nothing stops it! LOVE IT! Would never dream of selling it. Trying to find a coffin that will hold it so it can be buried with me when the time comes.
That mixer is 45 years old! I love your story
@@CookingWithCash my math skills suck! LOL
Hi Amy you are the greatest cook I’ve ever seen by the way I’m from Ireland
Congrats Amy! I know you will love it. I have a c100 on my counter and I will never get rid of it..
have you looked into how you'd go about servicing this mixer (i.e. ROUTINE maintenance such as grease etc.)? I don't see any screws, etc. on this mixer that would indicate how you disassemble it. Since you have one, have you looked into getting into the machine?
Great review! By chance have you had the opportunity to review the Bosch Compact Mixer? I did see where you did the Bosch Universal.
AMY!! Congratulations!! GIRL!! awesome review.
Looks so nice. Sounds kind of humming, not a grinding noise. Hobart used to manufacture kitchen aid mixer.
Can you share the price- I cannot find retail pricing for this model anywhere.
The Hobart is a beauty
Isn't the N50 available nowadays and considered as good if not better than the 7qt DC kitchenaid mixer?
I don't know if you've already approached the whisk rust issue but a bath in white vinnegar and some work with a brass brush would likely get the rust right off, rusting tops is a relatively common issue even on normal N50s.
Were can i get one?
My wife loves your videos. She wants a HL6 too. Curious, how much was yours and where did you find it?
Hey Kelvin! If you shoot me an email, I can sent you their info. I am not sure if they have any left tho but you can reach out to them to see!
Hi Amy I have an old Hobart n50 with two whisks and both have a little rust on them, my mistake was putting them in the dishwasher, maybe the previous owner did the same to yours.
Great review. Chris.
Happy Thanksgiving!!! Amy I have never made a turkey. My dear husband Kenny♡ always made it when he was still alive. He liked to cook and we all liked his stuffing so...much. We had our dinner Tuesday because all my boys were off. My Sister will bring me a nice big plate today!!! Yum Yum. GOD bless you and Eric. A fan and friend. Di Di. P.S. enjoy cooking today!!!
Beautiful mixer
I'm a little sad this thing isn't available in retail. I've watched dozens of mixers reviews on your channel. Out of all of them this one seems to do the best job. The attachments also look better made than most others. Oh well!
Hi Amy! Amazing videos for serious bakers. May I ask where can I buy one HL6 or N 50 or N60? Plz
Hi!!! Just want to say Happy Thanksgiving to you and Eric!!! Have a great day tomarrow. Keep making the great videos. A fan and friend. DiDi
Happy Thanksgiving!! Are you cooking?
Amy & Eric, the HL6 has a governor speed control like the KitchenAid mixer. As far I know this is the only governor controlled Hobart mixer ever created. Thank you Eric for the close video. Ingredients seem to be incorporated faster with less splashing with the 90 degree spiral beater. No instruction/use & care booklet or leaflet? The whip seems to be styled like the deluxe whip available on/for the larger bowl lift KitchenAid mixers. The dough hook too has a shape closer to that of the "power knead" spiral dough hooks . Since Hobart and KitchenAid are now separate features from one will not filter to the other. The use of components made in Sweden are a clue to compare the 7 qt.or 8 qt. KitchenAid having a motor imported from the same country with the HL-6. Motor wattage is not a means of rating motor power (it is used as an advertising gimmick!) On can compare a 650 watt Kenwood with a 350 watt KitchenAid and the KitchenAid for most, will be declared the better mixer in performance. For many, the features on the Kenwood would rate as a better mixer. People have their personal preferences no matter what the reason. In listening to these reviews, I wish the word " feel" was said less often and there were more concrete description in the reviews. This mixer's streamlined design and appearance makes it look easier to, keep clean, the fewer seams and crevices the better. Does Amy make her own peanut butter?
The paddle on that thing is crazy looking, I wonder if a normal N-50 paddle or bowl will fit on that? That might be worth trying out.
Great review, thanks, Amy. That's interesting about your comments about the Kenwood and Commercial KA compared to the HL6. I love that curved paddle. Can Hobart tell you what the metal is at the top of the whisk? At least the wires didn't go rusty, so hopefully you'll have no problem removing the rust. Too bad the local Hobart rep was so rude. Guess he doesn't care about business! Thanks again.
Thanks Sashine. Glad you enjoyed this video.
The Hobart rep, as far as he knew, Amy was not supposed to have this mixer, because it was not available to outsiders beyond Hobart employees. Let's hope no one learns the serial number to trace this back to the executive that sold the mixer. The release of this video and the previous one, when Amy unboxed her find, is no doubt, causing some uproar at the corporate offices at Hobart. Sunbeam back in the day, did allow prototypes to be used by employees, but were required to be returned for disposal. No doubt you have seen some early MixMasters (in UA-cam or eBay) stamped not being for sale--from corporate violators giving or selling items received for testing or demonstration.
I have the HL6, I love it!
Unbelievable collectors piece!!
Nice find😃
Try some CLR on the rust. It can be purchased at Target, Walmart, Home Depot, or any hardware store). Soak and rinse and rust should resolve.
That mixer is a thing of beauty
It may be late to advise on the rust problem but a chrome plating shop can polish most metals for a decent price.
I love my HL-6, it's the best cooking (baking) purchase I've made
How is your HL-6 fairing? What you make with it most often?
Will the Jenn air attrezzi be reviewed soon I would like to see how the mixer handles your basic tests
After waiting for months for this video after the 'unboxing" it will likely be a while before that happens. There is no support now for the mixer if anything breaks. JennAir was bought out by Maytag and we all know what Whirlpool did to their products! At the time I sure wish I had money to buy one to add to my mixer/blender collection. The designs and color options were breathtaking! Etched glass, stainless, chrome and colors & designs were awesome. The Attrezzi mixer performs better than the most recent Kenmore mixer released.
Where did you find the prototype Hobart HL6 I think you said paid about $400 for it, if you could give me the address I really appreciate it
Miller Precision still has them available on EBay. Look up HL6 mixer. Hope you can snag one!
Amazing amy
Thank you for a good review. So between the Hobart HL6 and the KA 8 qt commercial, using same quantity of flour or caking mxing, which one wins or would you choose?
The HL 6 is a commercial machine designed for heavy use, the KitchenAid is a nice machine, but it can tolerate using it's full capacity only occasionally Wish it had thermal "overload" protection like what KitchenAid did use yrs ago with the commercially rated machines
9:46, Hobart sold KitchenAid in 1986 to Whirlpool, i am willing to bet the KitchenAid has a smaller motor but geared with more torque to equal the horse power as that large motor on the Hobart
I am the lady that is having problems with the kitchen aide mixer that spurts food all over. It is 13years old but I called kitchen aide and so they said we could adjust it by turning a certain screw a 1/4 of a turn. I did try it and it spurted flour all over again. She also if this doesn’t work it has to go to a service center. Thank you for help. I thought when I bought a kitchen aide I would have no problem with it.
Many of the smaller Hobart table top appliances like their bowl processors and feed through processors are made in Sweden by a company called HALLDE. They are expensive but are better than any other products of that type.
A little late, I know, but vinegar is an excellent rust remover. I use it all the time for hand tools and garden tools that get left outside. I would start off with a 50/50 mix of vinegar and water and let it soak for 4 hours. If that isn't enough, let it soak overnight. If there is any remaining rust or crusty spots, follow up with a Brillo pad, or even just a blue Scotchbrite sponge.
Looks like Miller Precision needs to negotiate with Ankarsrum to bring this fine little mixer back into production. Give the consumer a choice beyond Bosch. Give them something that can handle thick and heavy dough, plus anything in between. They will be hooked!
I love it reminds me when I used H 600
Don't give her any ideas! LOL.
Eric Learns to Cook I can imagine Amy reviewing that big boy! Lol good thing in rolls.
Regarding that rust problem with the whisk, I would try spraying WD 40 on the affected area and letting it remain for 48 hours maybe and use a bottle brush to work off the build up then wash it. According to everything I have read about WD 40 it should work, hope so anyway.
Hello Amy and Eric! I have known the Hobart brand name for over 20 years, but that one was new to my wife and me (my wife has watched your videos) until you made that introduction of the HL6 with all the suspense. I wanted to buy a strong mixer for my wife to make our daily whole wheat bread, and we have been afraid of the "ChickenMaid", because one time I opened one up and saw plastic in there... Anyways, my questions are: Is the HL6 going to handle a 4 pound whole wheat dough ball? Is it really heavy? What is its weight? I heard that the casing is made of plastic, is it true? Thanks a lot for the great cooking show!
The HL6 should do ok on a 4 pound dough ball of whole wheat. I haven't tried to make whole wheat in it yet but I am planning to. It is a heavy mixer...it is definitely not one that you can move around very easy. It is way heavier than any of my KitchenAid mixers.
Top part of the whisk looks like iron and the wire looking appendages is probably aluminum. At the highest speed it sounds like an airplane. Such a collection item
that's when Hobart made a great residential product
Omg you are a wonderful hilarious human...keep the videos coming!!!
Thanks for the demo - Frankly, I was expecting something better considering it was expected to replace the N50, but considering it is
not a geared machine, it's not so bad, except at its highest speed, where the nasty sound seems to indicate flutter from excessive clearances. Nice, but like you said so very well I think I'll keep using my Ank for my 6 loaf batches ;-)
What a beauty!
Oh yeah!...and it so so much fun to use! Thanks for watching!
My geared 10 quart Berkel is very quiet compared to the Hobart HL6. I have run larger batches of dough similar to what was made on this video, and my machine will do them with ease. Yes, they are an investment, but I do feel that they are well worth the cost for those who would prefer one over something like the Kenwood.
Like comparing Cuisinart to MagicMix(RobotCoupe)
@@russ5024: Yes, and my 10 quart mixer would most certainly represent the RobotCoupe. There really is no comparison.
The Berkel us made in China. It's an ok mid tier mixer.
@@broderp: I would consider it as far better than an Ankarsrum or Bosch for home use. For commercial use, I would tend to agree with it being more of a mid-tier. Verimixer and Glob would each be a better brand, but the Globe is made in Taiwan by Spar. So I would consider Varimixer and Hobart to be the two top brands currently. Thanks for your thoughts! :D
To help you understand watts and horsepower. 746 watts is equivalent to one horsepower. The KA commercial 8 is 1000 watts ( 1.34 hp). Hope this helps.
That is the definition, but I doubt it is truly rated at what their marketing hype claims it to be. Test 30 mixers and you'll get a feel for the differences in what they claim and how they perform.
Hi Amy congratulations on your new unique mixer try coke a cola on the rust part leave it on for awhile until you see loosen rust saw many reviews in getting out rust let me know how it goes best of luck sincerely Ada *Bronx, New York 😍😘😋
Hi Ada, glad you liked it. Yeah I was thinking of soaking in some white vinegar since the acid would eat the rust, but then Coke has been used on hundreds of millions of us to clean up our insides, right?
Amy try clr to remove the rust, let it soak overnight and just use a toothbrush to clean with soap and water.
One is currently for sale at $1,800
Oh my! That is crazy! I got a great deal on this one. They are very hard to find tho.
Can I do five pounds of flour and do you know any mixer to make 5 Pounds of flour at one time
A 20 qt Hobart! they cost over $5,000.00 new
Awesome mixer Amy! I'm also always afraid my KA Pro 600 is going to break. It definitely is not the quality machine it was when it was Hobart owned and struggles to make 2 loaves of plain white bread dough at a time
There were no more than 3 KitchenAid mixer models being manufactured at any given when it was a Hobart subsidiary.
Mine broke, had to get the 7 quart which is a different machine internally
Great video
Thanks Jonathan. Glad you enjoyed it.
Nice video!
Kool mixer!!!
I bet Martha Stewart doesn't even have one of those mixers.
This mixer was never sold to the public nor any samples given to any one but employees. The fact that Amy got one and has made this publicly know has probably got someone in trouble at Hobart. We will probably never know!
@@russ5024 I believe she got it from a neighbor of a retired Hobart exec, so I don't think anyone would be in trouble.
Horsepower is the size of the motor, 1 Horsepower = 750 watts so 1 1/3 = 1000w (1kw)
I’ve really be disappointed by Kitchenaid lately. Quality has really gone down a lot. My 5qt tilt head was total junk and my 6qt Professional was loud and failed after a year of light use.
I have a Kenwood that thing will mix anything you throw at it and doesnt flinch
I have two KitchenAids, the first one over 35 yrs old and had to have the armature and speed control replaced, chose not to fix it when it needed the whole motor replaced. I cannot complain about customer support, always very helpful and all parts I needed for repair were available.
@@mydogky if and when you need service--please comment on your experience
Have only needed to contact Kenwoods centre once and that was for an attachment I found them very helpfull and obtained the attachment I wanted@@russ5024
@@mydogky Not so sure we in the US would have as good customer support with repair issues
So, let's back up a few steps. Not sure why Hobart is stating this was a prototype. I would like to share with you what I know of this product. This mixer was in fact NEVER MADE BY HOBART. It was never meant to replace the N50. This mixer was made in Sweden. You will notice that the label on the back of the mixer does not have the Hobart name on it. Virtually EVERY other mixer made by Hobart has their name and address printed on the label. This mixer was made by a Swedish manufacturer and hit the market in 2014. It was sold through several outlets that are purveyors of commercial equipment. The mixer was sold "unbranded" without any brand name on it. I have one that I purchased in 2014 and it came with 5 attachments (you are missing two of them). The retail price of the mixer was $1050.00 and I purchased mine at $895.00 plus shipping. You will see these for sale on ebay and craigslist with no label or brand name on them. The local rep from Hobart told me that Hobart was thinking of putting their name on this product and market it to the "Home Consumer" and was never intended for commercial use. They later abandoned the idea and never retailed it. He told me that this was not and could not have been a prototype as Hobart never manufactured this machine and had no part in it's design or specifications. Consequently this is also why no Hobart attachments fit this mixer. I tend to believe my local rep and also the fact that I purchased one unbranded from an online restaurant supply company.
Well actually I have since learned from the company that they made 500 of these mixers and sent samples out to restaurants and dealers for feedback. The main feedback that they heard was that they are used to the traditional speeds of the classic Hobart mixers and write their recipes using so many minutes on X speed...then so many minutes on X speed. From model to model, the speeds on Hobart mixers are the same so it works for them no matter which models they have in their restaurant. With the variable speed on the HL6, none of them liked it because they would have to change their recipes and train their staff. So...Hobart decided not to launch it. If your dealer had some without a brand, it was because they released the ones that were made to dealers...probably without the Hobart brand. Yes...they are made in Sweden like a lot of the motors are by Ankarsrum. It is not surprising because KA has some of their motors made by Ankarsrum as well. Yes...there is also a pastry cutter...I got replacements from the company that made the parts for Hobart. They are in Florida and they ultimately bought the design of the HL6 from Hobart. They have no plans to release it...and yes...she confirmed it as well that it was a single run of 500 mixers. It was not made as a consumer model.
@@AmyLearnsToCook I have my doubts it would hold up very well under commercial use. I have other machines that I prefer over this one.
Actually it is good that you didn’t test out the whisk attachment because with that machine on the highest speed, talk about LOUD!
It's a bit loud. But I'm sure it wouldn't have taken very long to whip up some eggs or cream.
@@EricLearnstoCook not as loud as a Pro 600, that is one loud high pitched whinny mixer!
What's sad is the fact the KitchenAid, when it was a Hobart, was a beast of a mixer even at 250 watts. Not anymore.
I feel jealousy. Lol. I recently got a 20 qt Hobart. Her name is Dreamy. Now I want to collect them
A 20 quart Hobart? I am jealous!!
You must have a bake shop and/or have lots of oven space to bake
Amy,
I watched the video on the Bosch 2 I was shocked to see that it basically only mixed in one spot and you were doing the mixing by hand I think that they are junk I think that is my personal opinion I don’t want to be rude, to me a Kitchenaid would have done it and been through with your Peanut Butter Cookie dough , before you were able to get everything scraped down, I think that the Kitchenaid is 10 to 1 better than the Bosch STANDMIXER.
But the Hobart STANDMIXER is cool,
I know the Hobart Name is for Commercial Business, my Parents had a Meat Slicer that we used for years I had to take it apart and clean it 4 or 5 times a week and sharpen it, and you had better know what you were doing when you were doing all of that the Hobart STANDMIXER you have is a good piece of machinery and it will stand up to what you need to be done, keep looking around and I bet you will probably find someone who knows how to work on it and then they may have parts for it don’t give up, I don’t think that you will because I think that is your favorite baby.
Thanks
Vannessa G.
P.S.
I loved the video on the Halloween table and Thanksgiving Table Scene you were showing the other day, I really loved the truck with the little pumpkins and hay bales on it too cute I think.
Good Night.
I will add that Aces Hardware once used to sell the Bosch Universal mixers. However, they gave up due to the lack of demand for the product. The dough has to be a certain consistency for the Bosch to work. If you are making a stiff dough, it will ball up and ride the paddles, as seen on one of Amy's videos. I passed on the Bosch because of its plastic exterior, and Amy's review, in favor of an Ankarsrum Assistant to add to my collection. The Ankarsrum is very attractive, light in weight, has good capacity, and can do a great job if you know how to use it. Also, the motor on Amy's HL6 in this video was made by Ankarsrum.
Hobert rates there mixer in torque. The Hobert runs full power all the time, kitchenaid mixer run at different power based on the speed. The kitchenaid will burn out on low speeds with a heavy load. Moreover the Hobert runs at full power even on low speeds.
The is true of all Hobarts but not his particular model, speed is controlled by a motor governor not a transmission.
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Is this a scam? There is a website called kitchenaiden.com and they are selling brand new kitchenaids bowl lifts artisans etc and huge discounts. Most are like $51 or something like that. One time Eric said to beware of scams and this has to be isn't it? Just wonder what you think if you have the time
Yeah Sophie I would be careful with deals like that. There is no way that anyone could afford to sell them that cheap. They would lose money and would be out if business in no time. They could take your credit card info and do bad things plus never ship you the mixer. Only go through reputable retailers with solid return policies.
Thanks Amy it's what I thought but do you know how tempted I was? It was just awful to resist. I didn't do it but sooo wanted to. I wanted to see what you thought and knew you would have heard of it if it was honest. Thanks for that! I see how they can get people very easily!
I hope you have a nice Thanksgiving! Are you cooking this year?
@@AmyLearnsToCook Yes I am cooking, I thought my husband and I would be alone this year but my son and his girlfriend and my twin granddaughters said they are coming! that was so nice to hear. Its been a couple years since Ive cooked a dinner, I use to do it every year but after loosing my daughter I haven't done it.So this year, its on! I hope I can remember everything I use to do lol! hope you have a good one too, thank you for asking!
99.9% probability that they are a fraudulent website looking to scam people. I reported them to KitchenAid.
I think there's a reason it didn't go into production......the emperor's new clothes comes to mind.
You won’t see ITW give anything away!🤪
Kitchenaid hp: In this instance they used mechanical hp not electrical. This would be the formula thy used. HP = ( Torque x RPM) / 63025. Note it is the measure of the engine itself not necessarily the real-world experience (i.e. planetary movement).
Second: With a 4.2 A draw (120 V source) it is 500 Watts, higher than 300 W. Electrical Hp is .67 (assuming 100% efficiency). Numbers come from link below, note how Wattage and HP are listed separately and not interchangeably leading to conclusion they used mechanical hp not electrical for their claim.
www.webstaurantstore.com/kitchenaid-ksmc895wh-white-nsf-8-qt-bowl-lift-commercial-countertop-mixer-with-stainless-steel-bowl-guard-120v-1-3-10-hp/519KSMC895WH.html
Wattage has nothing to do with how powerful a product is. It mens how much electricity is using. Horse power on the other hand has more to do with the input. Commercial mixers tend to be more power efficient with a high input. There's a difference between closed systems we're energy is constantly being recycled and open systems where energy is transformed and may be lost as thermal energy for example instead of potential energy being turned to kinetic energy. A horsepower is the energy it takes a machine to move 550 pounds per foot in a second. You see? Horsepower take more thing into consideration and is not like Kitchen aid has "weird math" for safety issues home appliances are not as efficient as commercial because that means they would have more power and can cause serious damage to unexperienced people or children
Funny, I watched the video for the Kenmore and then this one. Talk about polar opposites.
Yeah...I was disappointed in the Kenmore. It is too bad because I initially thought the idea was interesting. Thanks for watching!
200 $ !!!! now I'm very very jealous !! 😡don't talk to me any more . bye .. ! 🤣
Not sure why you are jealous. Thanks for watching!
@@AmyLearnsToCook cause you are so lucky to have Hobart hl6 for 200 $🤪 just joking ... 💗
just soak in some vinegar