What Happened to the 12 Disciples?
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⁉️ THE QUESTION:
What Happened to the Original 12 Disciples?
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🎙️ THE ANSWER:
Well, the Bible doesn't tell us what happened to all 12 of them. It does give us a picture into a couple of them. We know that Judas betrays Jesus. He's going to hang himself.
We know that James in Acts chapter 12 is going to be arrested by King Herod and he'll be put to death. And then there's the historical tradition. This is outside the Bible, but the historical tradition of the church is that the other disciples died as faithful martyrs.
For example, Peter is someone who would be crucified upside down by Emperor Nero in Rome. We know that Thomas, the same doubting Thomas, he would go all the way to India, preach the gospel there until he was stabbed to death with his spear.
There's Bartholomew who would preach in Armenia until he was martyred. Philip would be martyred also in Asia Minor and then Matthew, James, Thaddeus, Simon, Andrew, all of them were believed to have taken the gospel to different parts of Asia and Europe and be martyrs.
John is the only disciple who is believed to have died an natural death. He was in exile on the island of Patmos. He wrote the Book of Revelation.
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Didn't they try to add more disciples to replace the dead ones?
What happened to Lazurus (the one Jesus resurrected) after Christ was crucified? Did the Pharisees kill him?
Could you provide references for this? I have heard people say this many times but I’ve never known what the claim is based on. What are the sources of the disciples dying as martyrs?
I have a question. We are always told that early Christians didn’t have bibles because paper and ink was too expensive. Yet John, while exiled to a penal colony got enough of each to write the book of Revelation. Plus we have over 10,000 early manuscripts. Paul also said to make copies of his writings and send them out to all the churches.
@@joshthielbar1if you are talking about apostles, no. By that time, there would be no one left chosen and taught by Jesus. And unlike today, people back then understood what an apostle was.
I think it’s crazy how people say Christianity is a western religion when it’s was everywhere else first
From point of view of eastern hemisphere yes it is western
@@vsharmishtha16 the Greenwich Meridian goes through England and Western Africa, going north and south. In terms of map perspective, only the parts of Asia east of Judea would consider it "western", and that term would definitely mean something completely different for that time than what is being discussed here.
Christianity was plagerized from Judaism which was plagerized from zoroastrianism and islam was plagiarized from christianity.
@@vsharmishtha16just because you live more east than the place where Christianity originated doesn't make it a western religion, or an eastern religion for that matter....
It is a worldwide religion and there's nothing you can do to change that fact....
@@sandeeppallapu just because you say 'its a worldwide religion and nothing anyone can do to stop' does not mean it is true. It did not become worldwide out of love ..there were crusaders who plundered and massacred whover stood in way. Modern world whether its christian or not are beginning to see the reality. And nothing wrong in calling east or west.
I can't wait to hear all their stories when we finally go home.
That'll be in a few Googleplex years until the Universe Dies, at least that's what i understood.
@@Hypogeal-Foundation It may not be as far away as you think.
Imagine Jesus telling the true story about humanity like what really happened and all of us with our families listening. Sheesh
It's said that that the messiah's coming is suspended until all of Israel believes so it's still pretty far
Maybe You want be interested in anything but bowng down to the king Of Kings and LORD Of LORDS.
Holly wood and the west in general keeps us thinking Of "heaven" is just like it is now here on earth. On the other hand if knowing the story Of someones life is that important im sure You Will get the chance.😊
They all gave their lives because they KNEW Jesus was God ❤️
*Son of God
@@joelflack1469 same thing
@@tudor7746 The son of someone by definition cannot be the someone that they are a son of.
@@joelflack1469 for us, people, yes. But at the godly level, Jesus was the son of the Father, while still being God together with His Father. They are one God in three persons. The Father is in heaven, the Son was on the Earth.
Jesus and God are separate. Jesus is our human messiah , the second adam who never sinned and gave his perfect life for us but he never claimed to be God.. He is the mediator for us to God the Father. The trinity is a man made doctrine that evolved over time that has to be read into scripture instead of from scripture.
The question every nonbeliever should ask themselves, why would all these men die defending a lie? They didn't, they were killed defending THE TRUTH! Thank you JESUS for loving us this much!!!
Was any of them given a chance to escape death by recanting?
True
Because there is no proof of any of this. There has always been storytelling. It's a story of control that man made. Is there a God, maybe, is God written in a book...NO. No story in any Bible has been proven. No writer of a book of the bible had a first-hand view of any story. It a great big telephone game.
they weren’t defending a lie until they died. no one would do so. But a BELIEF that u BELIEVE in however is much more likely to be defended to extremity.
No one said they died for preaching what they thought was a lie. They believed what they were saying. The problem is what they thought was true is false.
And do you honestly think a God killing himself as a sacrifice to himself, so he can save a few of us from what he will do to everyone else, is love?!!
Twelve Ordinary Men made extraordinary by God.
APOSTLES not DISCIPLES
Praise the lord
That's why Jesus said take up your cross and follow me. He never said it would be easy but for a true disciples of Jesus Christ the rewards are insurmountable in heaven. Christians are the most persecuted of all religions and will be until the end of days, but then every knee will bow and every tongue proclaim that Jesus is Lord, The King of Kings, hallelujah, Amen
Most persecuted? You never heard of the jewish people? Jeezus..... pun intended.
Interesting....When the Disciples are first shown, they are all Black men.
Yet, when discussing what Happened to them....they are all shown as White men...
Why!?
amen.praise Jesus
HALLELUJAH THANK YOU JESUS 🙌🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾
Amen
They exiled John because he wouldn’t burn in a fire. He won’t die by fire so they made him isolated in an island. God did protect him so He may write the revelations. Amazing. 😭 If that were me I would’ve cried out the moment they drag me to a pyre thanked God it ain’t any of us but truly God is ever powerful no fire can stop His chosen. If He wills it, He will bring to pass and the LORD did. Amen. 🙏🏽
Boiled in oil.
Still amazing.
Even more so due to the nature of the method.
Emerged unscathed and rather than repent, they had him exiled.
He's the disciple whom Jesus loved. It's said he would not die until he returns which was fulfilled when the temple was destroyed and the church could reign.
@@MultiSpeedMetal
Fulfilled in the war of 70AD.
Also showing all gospels had to be written before that time.
God is good.
Some theories that John until now is still alive he's waiting for the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ
@@fherndomingo12 There is some confusion between this and the supposed Cartaphilus “wandering man” figure whose name means “dearly loved”. He is claimed to either be the one who struck our Lord on the cheek and spit on him or John or someone else entirely. There are various legends of monks and clergy encountering this man like in the case of an Armenian archbishop claiming to encounter him in Armenia and another Byzantine monk who encountered an Ethiopian claiming to be this man.
John was instructed to write down what he sees and hears, so although he wrote it he was not the author of it God was
You sound like a Muslim now. Behave.
It's like he was shown a movie and then tried to describe it afterwards.
so he was a prophet
@@fu_games he was appointed as apostle by the Lord so no need to add other titles.
People still think the gospels are eyewitness accounts? Wow. We live in such an uneducated society.
In high school, my teacher told me about Thomas. He brought Christianity to India. Great guy!
St Thomas went to the South of India, a place called Kerala. That's why the Christian population is relatively higher in South India compared to the other parts of India.
@@jen18822he went into taxila northwest India too
@@jen18822But the BJp government bullied the Vatican to deny Thomas ever went to India. The Catholic church posted this in their official website
And enslaved u guys...from sons of pandyas and cholas to lgbtq+
He was
12 men, without any Earthly benefit whatsoever, were brutally persecuted, tortured, and killed and NEVER CHANGED THEIR STORY. Yet, people in leadership rolls today whom other people would admire over the Gospel, can't hold on to basic truth for more than 5 minutes.
If I’m not mistaking tradition has held that St Bartholomew “pray for us” was martyred by means of filleting. By far I would say St Bartholomew endured the most brutal and painful martyrdom of the 12.
May the Lord ease the suffering of his servants, and bring peace and comfort to his faithful. Lord have mercy
What's filleting?
@@edmundtrummer3182 like a fish fillet
@@Dandymancan oh fuck
@@edmundtrummer3182I think it’s like pulling the skin off kind of thing not nice
Skinned alive😮🕊️🙏😢
And now they’re with the Lord ✝️🙏🏼
A part from Judas
@@darvi5762nope i believe Jesus used Judas as he wanted to die on the cross for us, which shows how integral Judas' betrayal is to Christianity as a whole
@@iztjx26Judas is responsible for his sin, and not having repented, he's gone to hell. Jesus has said it too, it would have been better for him if he had never been born
"Anyone who loses his life for my sake will gain it."
Is not biblical that we go to heave after death. Including the disciples. The Bible only mentions a few people that actually went to heaven.
And John was the one disciple who had the courage to stand by Jesus at the cross.
With the three Marys
And at critical time the all forsake hin
Judas sold him out cause he knew Jesus was a fake.
He didn’t want to go along with it anymore
So they took care of him and wrote that he offed himself because he felt so bad for betraying Jesus.
If Judas had a book, his recollection of events would be very different to what the Bible has in it.
@Conics22 many Christians had encounters with Jesus and all of them describe him in the same way. See Mar Mari Emmanuel, he was taken to the afterlife
@@Artem_Myronko
Many people described being abducted by aliens and being probed in the rear end.
Doesn’t mean it’s true.
Many people believe that their cult leader is the next coming messiah.
Many people describe being able to talk to god directly.
Many people swore to have seen Elvis after he passed.
Many people believed that the earth was flat and in the center of the universe back in the day.
If they Died for Jesus
They were definitely Defending the truth
They were definitely not defending a lie
Jesus is God indeed
Imagine how little Thomas must have feared that spear after seeing the wounds of Jesus resurrected
🤯 That’s wild imagery.
That's an excellent observation!
I knew the history of it but never put it together!!
He KNEW death had No hold on him!
“Unless I shall see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into His side, I will not believe.”
And he did!!
No he laughed at the irony
That would be a great Netflix series
They would make one of the disciples 🏳️🌈
The Chosen season 7 perhaps?
Nah don’t
Netflix most likely willingly portray them in a different tbh.
@@koketsok7391
And rainbow 🌈
My stepfather is a pastor and always warns his congregation that discipleship is no joke. He uses the deaths of the OG disciples and apostles to count the costs of submitting yourself to Jesus as Lord
Thats exactly true. That's why preaching that salvation is free is absolutely false.
It's free in the sense you can't buy it or earn it but it most certainly costs you something. Whether your physical life, family including a spouse, or literal monet. The cost seems steep at times but the rewards far exceed them.
God is sooooooo good.
Come home to the One True, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
@shaunpoland5656 thats a cult. There is no truth there. All lies.
The true church is not catholic
@@shaunpoland5656The Orthodox Church ❤
@@metallica990z It’s the same thing my brother. We are the same church of Christ, both Catholic. You are just schismatics. You guys even call yourselves Catholic. I hope we reunite one day.
THANK YOU for studying and for sharing with us!
Following Jesus comes with a cross. Get out of your comfort zones and stand for the Gospel for such a time as this
Pray for our tortured and persecuted brothers and sisters everywhere and in the seasons to come.
John the Beloved I can almost imagine the reception in Heaven when he finally arrived.
Well, as you're quite aware, Jesus said that they would be raised on the last day... So they all had sleep for a while until he could prepare a place for them as he had said before... And by preparing a place he meant getting rid of Satan and the demons out of heaven and throwing them out...
@flamingpieherman9822
You're theology is in error,
May God Bless you and all who seek
John was the only one at the foot of the cross when Jesus died. He was rewarded for his loyalty with a full life.
Did the other disciples not attend the crucifiction on purpose?
The other disciples were nowhere to be found at the cross. I'm guessing it off fear. But they all, except for Judas, got back together afterward, once Christ was resurrected.
That's a great observation. He always referrred to himself as the one whom Jesus loved.
No my friend. We have no historical evidence to say John of Patmos was Jesus's John. If you research the book, you find the only evidence of it being from John, (who was already killed) is revelation saying trust me bro. So trash it
cowards@@bri-chimchimcher-ee6955
John was boiled in oil but you're right -it didn't kill him... These men were amazing
I wanted to add this, but you already did. 😊
Then there is me who, when I deep fry something and the oil sprinkles a minute portion onto my hand, I scream like a banshee. Praise be to God for these disciples because the things they went through, they went through them by the grace, strength and mercies of God
Because Yehovah was with them .
As they were not Christians ..
@@JaberYesulike a bansheee you say …I’m rolling 😭😭 same , same 😭
After that John continued. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and i heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet saying. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last and what thou seest, write in a book and.... the revelations were given to him.
St Thomas brought Christianity to South India in AD 52. When Vasco De Gama reached India in the 1400s he was surprised to see Christian churches.
Once again, Peter was NOT crucified upside down, or at least it's not proven. It's a cool thing to think, but to say "that happened" is incorrect and technically spreading lies.
Edit: A guess has become so widespread millions of Christians take it as fact, and I find that scary. This is how the word gets twisted over time.
John was killed too but he didn't die. He was dropped in a pot of frying oil and lived. Thats why he was exiled to Patmos.
You mean they tried to kill him but they were unsuccessful then he was exiled to Patmos
That's because John was promised to be immortal until the time Jesus comes back to earth. So as far as I know he is still in this world and you will not recognize him if you cross him.
@@dennisrodriguez3689Not true.
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 did you at least read the Bible?
@@dennisrodriguez3689 the bible is corrupted
Referring to John, Jesus answered, "If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me." Maybe John never died.
You are right Saint John is not dead
John died in Ephesus of old age. He instructed his disciples to dig a grave for him and told him that it has been revealed to him he would die in 3 days. One the third day he said goodbye to his disciples and laid down in his grave and gave up his soul. The Orthodox Church has the knowledge of what happened to all the Saints and even the entire life of Christ's mother, Mary. It is held in our Tradition and passed down. It's too bad that so many people just don't know these things because they only look to the Bible (which btw was created by the members of the Orthodox Church and agreed upon in 325 at the Council of Nicea).
@@Ljcsoghmomas1227what holy books say these things? Genuinely curious. Thank you.
@@SusieQZee The lives of the Saints are recorded on what is called the Synaxaristes of the Orthodox Church. There is a volume for each month of the year and you can look up Saint's lives by the day of their death. St. John is celebrated on September 26th. My kids also have a book written for children about his life. I'm glad you asked because it made me go read the section on him and realize that he actually reposed in Ephesus not Patmos. Also, like Mary the Mother of God, St. John has no grave because after his death his body ascended into Heaven to be with Christ. But unlike Elijah and Enoch, he died first, then his body was taken up. This maybe why people think he is still wandering around but that is not a teaching of the Early Church (the Orthodox Church) and is still not to this day. It was made up somewhere along the way. God bless.
The Apostle John didn’t write the Gospel of John and the book of Revelation.
They were written by John-Mark, the rich young ruler, who witnessed the trial and went to the cross.
He was a pupil of Nicodemus and authored the Gospel of Mark as well.
”And Simon Peter followed Jesus, and so did another disciple. Now that disciple was known to the high priest, and went with Jesus into the courtyard of the high priest.“
John 18:15 NKJV
The disciple known to the high Priest was John Mark, the one whom Jesus loved….. note that disciple went into the court yard with Jesus!
………
Peter asked the question because he felt that Jesus should rebuke the other disciple as well since he also sort of betrayed Jesus
Read those passages carefully and God will open your eyes and give you understanding
😀✝️
What did Jesus mean when he said this -
For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom (Matt. 16:27-28).
Mark and Luke also record such statements... and in each gospel, the next scene is always the transfiguration of Jesus.
John 1:4 and 2 Peter 1:16-18 spell this out more clearly.
In Genesis in the garden of Eden were two trees the tree of life represented God's life and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God's intention was that man would eat of the tree 🌳 of life but Adam ate from the tree 🌳 of knowledge of good and evil Satan's sinful life was the injected into man corrupting man. So God through incarnation took on humanity, outwardly He was flesh but inwardly He was divine. After 33 and a half years through crucifixion on the cross He nailed the old Adamic creation to the cross and also Satan and death were nailed to the cross then in hades set all those captive free and through resurrection became the All-inclusive life giving Spirit to breathe Himself into man so that man would live not by his natural life but by the life of God to live and express God here on earth forever to be the New Jerusalem God's kingdom
Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus and was made identical to Jesus by god. And was crucified instead of Jesus. Jesus was saved by god and lifted to the heaven. Before the day of judgement he will arrive and will be our savior and messiah. He will kill the anti Christ of the Jews .
Indeed he is the one of the most honourable prophet and Messenger of god. Not god himself or the son of god .Peace and blessings be upon Jesus and Muhammad the last Messenger of god.
God bless Bartholomew for blessing my people ☦️❤️🇦🇲
Church history and tradition is so important! We need to spend more time teaching it to people.
There's a difference between Church traditions and the teachings of Scriptures. For example Peter never visited Rome, that's lies from the Church of Rome.
@@columkennlies? There is evidence as early as the 2nd century that says Peter was in Rome.
@joshuajohnson7183 No there isn't. You have been mislead. There is only the story issued retrospectively by the Church of Rome which they used to invent some connection with Peter. The statue of Peter in the Vatican is older than Peter himself and is a statue of one of the pagan gods of the Roman Empire. The Roman Catholic Institution was always fraudulent, a political institution disguised as Christian. There is no evidence Peter left Israel
@@columkenn we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. Blessings!
@joshuajohnson7183 There is no agree or disagree. Only the facts and misunderstandings or being deliberately mislead by the Church of Rome. You have no evidence or ever have seen any evidence detailing Peter departing Israel and arriving in Rome because there is no evidence it ever happened and it almost certainly never happened.
Of course if you have discovered evidence that nobody ever had before, that Peter was in Rome then you can tell us about it.
Thank you for sharing this Word of Knowledge. Stay blessed,
Book of Mathew:
3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
Book of act
16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. 17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. 18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
Which is true story??😮
BIG CONTRADICTION
Peter said he was not worthy to die like Christ did... So he requested that he be crucified upside down. Before this Satan really was more concerned with the body of Moses this is why there was a battle with the archangel Michael for his body. I bet you guys can't tell me why Satan wanted Moses body? I will post my answer soon
Jesus told John that he would survive poisoning by vomiting. He was and then exiled to Patmos. He is recorded as being old at his death.
If the sentence from the Roman government failed, the prisoner would be freed. So, that was why John was released.
Judas did hang himself, but the branch snapped, and he fell on sharp rocks and was disemboweled.
James' death is written in the Bible.
We do not know about Peter.
Paul was beheaded outside Rome.
Biblically, we do not know about the others.
Local areas would record their own history. Thomas, for example, went to India and further north into Pakistan. He returned to India, where he was martyred.
The bible authors are anonymous you don't know who wrote it and when it's just one big guessing game.
When Jesus rose after the crucifixion he came back to (Jerusalem) ( NOT Rome, NOT ITALY).... and spent 40 days with the Apostles.
Solidifying his teachings and their unbelief...
I say.... that's when they first believed he was who he said he was.. That's when they were convinced to go to death with him, for him,
To die is to Gain...
If the seed is the word of God and the seed was planted in Jerusalem; then what eventually grew in Jerusalem in all the spots Jesus was? The Catholic Church. A tree is known by its fruits. A catholic church is at most or all of the countries where the Apostles were martyred. The word Bible is Latin and it means book. Sancta Bible. So yes go to Rome. The Catholic Church also owns remnants of the Holy Cross of Jesus, Crown of Thorns, Shroud of Turin, Veil of Veronica, La Santa Anello which is the wedding ring of Mary, the holy house of Loreto which is Mary and Joseph's house in Jerusalem, Joseph's tunic. What validation does your church have that it is the true Christian religion amongst all the other Christian Denominations claiming to be the truth? Your church will eventually die off and that's the sad honest truth. The scripture: "and the gates of Hades will not prevail" is talking about the Catholic Church and not your church. We have survived every persecution there is a still standing 2,000 years later. You might know scripture but you don't know authority.
You search the scriptures because you think you have salvation through them-Jesus. You grabbing a Protestant Bible that's missing 6 books and altered by Martin Luther and claiming to be Christian is like me buying a Navy Seal training book from a yard sale and claim to be a real Navy Seal because I read the whole thing and memorized it but I don't acknowledge the US government as the authority of the US Navyseal training manual. Finally your church has no known miracles like the Catholic Church. The Eucharistic Miracles, the many apparitions of Mary: Our Lady of Guadalupe, Our Lady of Lourdes, Our Lady of Fatima, Our Lady of Las Lajas,Our Lady of Akita. Look it all up. Science studied by religious and secular scholars. Your church has absolutely nothing compared to that so leave Rome out of it because you don't know what you're talking about. Who introduced western medicine? Catholic Church. Who introduced Hospitals? Catholic Church. Who leads the world in sheltering the poor, feeding the poor? Catholic Church. Try to measure your church compared to that. Gloria tibi Domine.
Knowing is different to man believing today 🤣.
My brothers took it on the chin where man have lost their minds in their own knowledge without guidance from our Father's truth.
Christ Jesus way, the tru G 😎♥️
The bile doesnt tell you anything that really happened. But the 11 disciples most liked died alongside christ from terrorism charges...
We have a church in kerala🇮🇳 which is believed to be built in 52 AD. Is there another church anywhere in the world that is this old? I am just curious
John was cooked even though he didn’t die, he received the Revelation and was instructed to write down what he was seeing.
and we get a flat and think God has forgotten us😮
5 of them founded churches in 5 cities; Rome, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, and Jerusalem. Each of which were See's in their own right
Only two apostles founded churches of the pentarchy. Peter founded Churches Antioch and Rome. Bartholomew founded the church of Constantinople. Jerusalem is pre-conregation.
Alexandria wasn't founded by a disciple. It was founded by Mark.
According to Church tradition, Mark founded the episcopal see of Alexandria, which was one of the five most important sees of early Christianity. There's always a critic.
Pentarchy, after the Greek for “five leaders,” refers to the five patriarchates in the early church. Originally, these patriarchates were located in important Roman cities that were significant for Christians for several reasons. First, the Christian community in each city was founded by one of the Twelve Apostles.
"Alexandria wasn't founded by a disciple. It was founded by Mark." Okay but where did I say the 5 See's were founded by disciples? And WHO IS MARK? According to tradition, the author, Mark is not an apostle himself. Not one of the original disciples, but rather the follower of one of them.
Alright then; Peter founded the churches in Rome & Antioch. Constantinople was founded by Andrew. In Alexandria was founded by Mark.
The first elected Bishop the Church of Jerusalem was James the Brother of Christ (+62) who shouldered the pastoral care of the whole Christian community. That's 4 apostles, *NOT 2,* for *5 (five)* patriarchates, which altogether formed a Pentarchy
They dedicated their whole life for the gospel and we have our bibles today through them. All these nations became familiar to the gospels because of them. Thomas came to Kerala in India.
They all betrayed Jesus. None of them stood by Him, that's why He was murdered.
Then they rewrote history dumping it in Gods lap to own.
John the Baptist was beheaded and his head was placed on plater. Horodias wanted John dead and killed by Herod Antipas
He was not an apostle.
He wasn't an apostle but if he hadn't have been slain by a Jezebel and an Ahab, he certainly would have met the requirements to be considered for the role.
I think you are talking about a different john. He means john, brother of James. You mean john the baptist, jesus' his cousin
@@dennisrodriguez3689Mary magdelene was the 13th disciple
You are talking about a different John.
thank you i needed this
It’s not tradition, but actual records. Most of the deaths were recorded and Fox’s Book of Martyrs recounts these records for us. God had their deaths fully recorded for us to know the Sacrifice they also made.
Traditions of "The Church".
The bible doesn't have everything
Real men, real soldiers of the Cross!! Thr Lord knew who would do his will and who wouldn't!
Real soldiers of christ. Nothing like the private jet owning prosperity teachers of today
HE KEEPS SAYING ...WE BELIEVE ..WE BELIEVE
I WANT TANGEBLE PROVES .
As a Christian, I also want some type of historical confirmation of this.
He said we know, he didn’t say believe
There are none. Only traditions
It’s hard to understand for Protestants but the early church existed before the Bible
100% ! Orthodox Church.
Well, kind of, there were still creeds floating around, and Paul’s letters weren’t t too far behind. Also it can be argued that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were living parts of the Bible, before they had written down their biographies of Jesus life.
In reflecting on the early days of the church, it's fascinating to consider how the absence of a compiled Bible parallels the Protestant narrative of sola scriptura. Back then, the early church fathers communicated through letters and teachings, living out and transmitting Jesus' teachings orally. This underscores the significance of sola scriptura, emphasizing the Bible as the ultimate authority for faith and practice, especially given the reliance on oral tradition before the scriptures were compiled. As Jesus said, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I’ve commanded you, and surely I’m with you always, to the very end of the age.”
I'm not sure if I should be offended or not by this statement. Why did you write this comment?
@@dahliaherrod4301 there is nothing to be offended by. It is historical accurate. As a example the acts of the apostles is documentation of the apostles and the early works of the church. The apostles couldn’t preach from the New Testament because they didn’t finish writing it.
John is the only Disciple that stayed with Mother Mary at the Cross.
He was rewarded by Jesus for his Honor and Love of His Mother.
I am an Indian who has seen Thomas’s resting place. The shrine is called as St. Thomas Mount which is located in Chennai, India.
The books that are called Fox’s Books of martyrs speaks about each disciple, and what happened to them because they believed with so much in their faith they even died for speaking truth in Jesus Christ Name
For the sake of scriptural integrity, James was not one of the twelve. He was, in fact, the half brother of Jesus and actually resisted Jesus’ Messiahship until he met the Risen Christ following the resurrection. Otherwise the short was awesome…considering that all the 12 needed to do to avoid being killed for their faith was to keep silent.
Text in the Bible?
The James that is mentioned in Acts 12 was the son of Zebedee and the brother of John, and so was part of the 12. The half-brother of Jesus (James the just) was believed to have been thrown down from the Jerusalem temple and beaten to death. Although he was not one of the 12, he was still very foundational to the early church (Acts 2, 15; 1 Corinthians 15; Galatians 1&2), even writing one of the earliest epistles (the epistle of James) as a shepherd to one of the first churches ever (the Jerusalem Church).
James the apostle became the bishop of Jerusalem and Jesus never had a brother, he is the last line of David, 14 generations read Jesus' genealogy in MAT 1. Jesus did not have any competition for the Kingship of the New Davidic Kingdom, he is the last king, no more successor.
@alfray1072 Jesus certainly had brothers, and they are mentioned in Mark 6 and in Acts 2, and epistles of two of them (James and Jude) are in the New Testament canon.
However, Jesus retains the right to rule from the house of David, since he was the first born to Mary, and also had Joseph as his legal father. Moreover, he is the Son of God, and so not only has the right to rule over the house of Jacob/Israel, but over all created things (Colossians 1:15 - 20).
@@joshuaoputteh1876 The Davidic lineage ends in Jesus, 14th generation, no brothers/sisters mentioned, if there is, they would have succeeded it or inherited it as king but did not bec the New Davidic Kingdom is the church and the keys was given to Peter/Cephas establishing his office as the gatekeeper/prime minister/shepherd of the church. 2ND, Joseph was a relative of Mary, if he had a son with her, then that would compete with Jesus 3RD, Mary was entrusted to John when Jesus was dying, not w/a brother or sister. 4TH Brother is a term used broadly in Aramaic/Hebrew language
Sola scriptura protestants condemn traditions with "If it isn't in the Bible" mantra.
I always wondered why god didn’t keep them from being killed and just ascend them to heaven like he did the big three
God is a jealous and does not want to take away from the story of the Bible which is Jesus Christ
The Church you refer to, that kept these records, is the Church of Jesus Christ.... The Catholic Church
Listen 2 church history !!! ... there is more than the biblical collective
Just say you don't know and say you made up stories 😂. I will take that.
John is the disciple who took care of Mary the mother of Jesus Christ
Either they were all mad or they knew something worth dying for.
Which Disciples Cheated Death Like Jesus'. ??? 😊
Jesus nor his disciples were european or Caucasian smh
None of them died, because none of them ever lived.
Facts - He knows his Bible.
What happened to the one whom Jesus loved?
This black men went everywhere teaching tell the truth. They taught the Hebrew scriptures there was no Bible study going on .
black men in middle east?
Africa isn't middle east
The lord told them to preach his word they did😊
They went out and spread the gospel and scriptures in the name of Jesus Christ so humanity can be saved Amen ✝️🕊️🛐
I guess that's why the Holy Spirit wouldn't allow Paul to go to Asia. 😮
My thoughts EXACTLY! 😮
All to Jesus I surrender
😂 The 12 disciples are depicted as Caucasians. Hilarious.
That's an old painting 🤦♀️. Use your brains and you'll understand why😂
God bless the deciples, and our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ amen 🙏🙌
They were murdered!
Savage 😅
Most of them died preaching the Gospel of the Lord. If they were all lying about it, they would not go as far as dying cruel deaths just to fool others. They died preaching the truth. ❤
Historical tradition of which Church?!
VIVA LA SANTA IGLESIA CATOLICA !!!!
I will never believe someone will willingly die for a lie that they know was a lie. There is no such thing as a honorable liar
as an Eastern Orthodox....i ask christians in the West - to note & acknowledge ALL books in the CHURCH LIBRARY ...
it is NOT the biblical COLLECTION ,only !!!
What a sacrifice, THANK YOU LORD JESUS 👑❤
Peter was crucified upside down because he said he was not worthy to be crucified in the same manner as Christ
So you're saying that the 12 disciples disobeyed Jesus by preaching to what Jesus said not to do according to the holy Bible and that was to preach unto the GENTILES which was forbidden!!! And what happened to their real Hebrew names??? LOL Peter/ Simon/ Luke/and let's not forget about Tom Dick and Harry all these names are pen names of PAUL WHO WROTE ALL OF THE NEW TESTAMENT!!! European names
CONTRACTION ALERT:
Did throw the money away and hang himself?
Or did he buy a field and fall head long and body burst open and his intestines falling out??
"(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out."
(NIV Acts 1:18)
CAN'T BE BOTH I'M AFRAID
First the Lord appeared to Peter in vision for the symbolic vision (Acts 10:10-16, the second was John the book of revelation in symbolic vision Acts 13:13, Rev 1:1 , and the last was apostle Paul , the symbolic vision caught up to third heaven for the 144000 of saints God know and caught up to paradise second death in Christ God know Acts 16:9-10, Acts 18:9, 2 Cor 12:1-4)
And 12 Disciples journeys have had been continues to Christ's followers and whom follow Him. Human's traits and behaviour are exactly depicted 12 Disciples.
Disciples? No. Apostles.
WE , the baptized followers ARE disciples
Don’t you know the Great Commission???
The theologian Tertullian reported that John was plunged into boiling oil but miraculously escaped unscathed. In the original apocryphal Acts of John, the apostle dies; however, later traditions assume that he ascended to heaven.
1) Acts 9:25- Saul is the first one to reach out to the Gentile in un-circumcised believer in Damascus, during early the apostles in Jerusalem reach out to the Jews circumcised believer heard the message the number of man grew 3000 to 5000(Acts 3:41, Acts 4:4) and Peter reach out to the Jews the place in Lydda and Joppa the Jews for the believer (Acts 9:32, Acts 9:43) Saul preach in synagogue that Jesus is the Son of God, for the Gentile in Damascus his followers took him by night and lowered him in a basket to rescue him, bur the Jews in Damascus conspired to kill Saul and the Grecian Jews, because Saul persecuted church in Jerusalem for the Jews disciples scattered out of Judes=Israel, if men and women did not go to evangelist will put in prison and the disciples in Jerusalem not believing Saul he really was a disciple(Acts 8:3, Acts 9:26) the scattered in Jerusalem persecution for the disciples to the land of Cyprus and Antioch telling the message Only to Jews(Acts 11:19), Barnabas and Saul a whole year reach out to Gentiles in Antioch for the un-circumcised believer called Christians first at Antioch (Acts 11:25-26).
2) Acts 15:39-40- Paul and Barnabas had a sharp disagreement, Jesus mention Saul=Paul is my chosen instrument carry my name before the Gentiles he know the plan of Jesus for the revolution worked harder then all of other apostles(Acts 9:15-16, Acts 19:21, Acts 23:11, 1 Cor 15:10 ) , Paul he circumcised Timothy the father was a Greek, and Titus was a Greek for the customs for the salvation of Jesus(Acts 16:2-3, Gal 2:3) , and Paul mention Timothy my true son and Titus my true son ( 1 Tim 1:2, Tit 1:4) for the coustom of the Mary to testify Romans Catholic Church ⛪️ for the salvation.
3) Acts 20:38- Paul farewell to the Ephesian, caues he going to Jerusalem the prison and hardship are facing him(Acts 20:23, Acts 9:16) cause he testify the custom of circumcised in Jerusalem 4 man to purification to testify (Acts 21:23-24) this verse he mention to Ephesian never see him face again, after I leave, wolves=wild donkey will come in among you and will not spare the flock he mention of the prophecy in fifth century the conqueror of many nations ancestor of Abraham for the great nations (Acts 20:29, Gen 16:11-16, Romans 4:18, Gen 17:26=Gen 26:4) apostle Paul went to the Romans testify for the Catholic Church for the custom and later he went to Spain (Acts 23:11, Rom 15:23-24), and Paul sent Tychicus to Ephesus to take back the scrolls, in new testament appear in 4th century in Greek in Romans Catholic( 2 Timothy 4:12).
There is considerable scholarly suggestion that the "John" who wrote Revelations was "John the Elder" of Ephesus, not "the Beloved". That book was written about 100 years after "The Crucifixion".I do appreciate the clearly stated reference to church "tradition" as opposed to a claim of historical fact regarding stories of the disciples. As for Judas "Iscariot" (possibly a corruptation of "Sicarii", fanatical jewish assassins of Roman and Roman sympathizers), did he die by hanging (Matthew 27:5) or by falling (or throwing himself) from a great height (Acts 1:18)? Which Bible contradictions do YOU believe are "True"? They can't all be.
Yes thats why History and tradition handed down is so important...check with your Orthodox Churches who hold the history upto each and every detail. FYI, the Patriarch of Jerusalem of the Syriac Orthodox Church H.H. Late Gregorios Abdul Jaleel brought the relics of all 12 disciples to India in 1665. Syriac Orthodox here from Kerala India 😊
The gospel (at first) went everywhere but Europe!
“Huh? I thought Peter was the first Pope?”
Well, that could be true if Peter was over 300 years old.
From the cross to Catholicism was over 300 years.
So… How?
Why then is he called “St Peter?”
Time to unlearn!
When my family left our last church and the Pastors sermon compared my dad to Judas running away to hang himself. Good thing we left.
Apostle Peter NEVER when to Rome!!!
Apostle Paul would have mentioned Him!!!
Allah Almighty says in the Qur’an (5:111)
“And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me and in My messenger (Jesus)." They said, "We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allah]."
I've read the Bible with an open heart and mind, and so have many Christians (they still can't find the concept of trinity or man/God nature there because it doesn't exist in the Bible. Trinity is a 3rd Century made up belief imposed on the Bible. Jesus was doing things to prove he was sent by God not that he was God - "Jesus of Nazareth, a man having been set forth by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by Him in your the midst, as you yourselves know" Acts 2:22)
While those who claim to have the holy spirit and they still can't make sense if it. That's why they have to conclude that it's a mystery because it's totally illogical and irrational to believe that an Eternal Immortal Ever Living Most Forgiving Merciful God would
a) need to die
b) to forgive sinners 🤦🏾♀️ completely contradicts the true teachings of Jesus Christ
Problem with Christians is that they ignore the explicit commandments of Jesus or misinterpret them and spend all thier time interpreting the vague/ implicit words to suit their beliefs.
I will happily follow the true gospel of Jesus Christ not the misinterpretations of Paul who never spent a single day of his life with Jesus and only had a vision.
Jesus said “Now this is eternal life; that they know You, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.” John 17:3
That's the true message of Jesus Christ.
I'm confused, John the Baptist was beheaded... Please help me understand if I'm wrong...