The modeling on all these is EXCELLENT. And thanks for the love and effort shown for the B5 universe. My ONLY criticism is I would think the Hyperion class ships would be much smaller in comparison to the other capital ships (based on their usage in the show) and the Drakh cruiser should be much larger (again, based on a whitestar flying along it in the episode "Lines of Communication".)
It's nice to have a couple of the crew sizes shown. I remember when I saw EC Henry's video on the size of the Enterprise-D and realised it could probably space-wise have over 100k people on board (though its official max capacity is 15k) The Victory class in particular having a crew of 600 is an almost comically small number - that'd be one lovely ship.
“it was jet black, a shade of black so deep your eye just kind of slides off it. And it shimmered when you looked at it. A spider big as death, and twice as ugly. And when it flies by, it’s like there’s a scream in your mind…” RIP Lt Keffer.
Where is the Thunderbolt and the First Ones (except the Shadows / Vorlons) and the races from Third Space .... thanks for the Video :) .... the blue star was new for me, never seen never heared about it
Done videos like this before that had the Planet Killer in them, and it's so huge it wouldn't have worked in this one. The Shadow cloud is just that, a big cloud. Some things just have to be saved for a rainy day. FYI the PK is about 1/2 the size of the 1st Deathstar [DS 120km diameter, PK ~60km long]
2:05 the Shadow's spider looking ship look different with the grey color, but then look at its shadow, then it looks like the real ship from Babylon 5. 🤣
Great video. You forgot the volon transport. Their best ship, Koch 's ship. Second slow down the speed large space ships and include the same info as you did on the first row. It would make it much much better. Also give you better youtube play length. Kudos to your hard work.
No one watches my videos for longer than 2 mins, pointless making long ones and b/c I don't live on YT uploading everyday the algorithm f*cks me over anyway. Pause if you can't read fast enough. Thanx n e way :)
В самом сериале для "Экскалибура" была указана длина, если не ошибаюсь, "миля с четвертью". То есть длина корабля - 2315 метров. In the series itself, the length was indicated for 'Excalibur', if I am not mistaken, 'a mile and a quarter'. That is, the length of the ship is 2315 meters.
Search for Tim Earls Size Charts. The instance you're referring to was an oversight in the script. Find the charts by the ship's designer, and you'll see the size I used to be correct.
Great work. Though the standard Sharlin warcruiser is 1600m in LENGTH, giving it over 2km height. And the Hyperion class heavy cruiser is 1025m long, it looked a bit upscaled against the Omega(1714m long) there.
Why didnt you go bigger? I would like to see a Vorlon planet killer shown the correct size as well as the other first ones ships. EDIT- Just saw your next Video lol Exactly how it should be XD
Pretty good. A few scaling questions, but not many. What was that fourth white star design? Not the Blue Star, or the Victory class, or the white star classic.
Nice but what is that Whitestar variant at the top right corner at 1:20? I've never seen it before but I'm liking it. It looks less than half the length of the original but could just as easily be a model for a big beefy heavy cruiser if you scaled it up a mile long.
@@SpacialKatana Nice. So what kind of role do you see it in? We only see two classes of Shadow capitol ship with the smaller scout ship apparently being outmatched by the Whitestar classic one on one. Without the First Ones would this smaller variant function like the shadow scout then? That may overlap too much with the even smaller Bluestar though I suppose the Bluestar could focus more on sneak and run missions where risk of detection or combat is very low. I remember you did a vid with a "Warlock" type upgrade or equivalent for the Nova or Hyperion for the EA fleet. There's plenty of room for heavier gunship versions of the Whitestar too. I mean the ISA Victory class is more like a Vorlon heavy or a Shadow battle crab. While loosely speaking they're just their versions of the Omega or Sharlin there's also a huge difference in power with the Victory coming closest to filling the void left when the First Ones went beyond the rim. Meaning the ISA still never had a true equivalent of a Whitestar Omega much less of a Sharlin or Warlock. Your larger carrier Whitestar is great but I think they'd still need a bigger gun heavy brawler to match anything short of the Drahk one on one without dancing around. Maybe a bigger chunkier version of this model with the wings being a little stubbier to reflect more guns in more firing arcs than just straight ahead and less maneuvering or swooping around even if it's still pretty fast in straight lines.
One shown is 1.5km long [obviously wider] It's the middle variant, however don't get too hung up on Shadow sizes, they're organic so can really be any size within reason. The one's in the show varied between 1 to 2 km in length depending on who rendered it and where/what they were doing.
Thanks. I printed battlecrabs for my gorash scene with 1 km long. And yes it's width is what is giving them vast volume domination compared to similarity in length with gquan cruisers, which is clearly shown in my photos, you could check it in instagram if you wish. As for general size of battlecrab, I never considered before that it might be different not because it's built to particular size, but because this thing is growing over time, if we put into cosideration meaning of word organic. I might publish some of my research designs someday, where I crossbreed battlecrab with trilobite creatures, I need to recheck animation files for modern lightwave versions. Thanks a lot for your inspiration from b5 and LW fan.
The Cortez is parked right next to the station in the episode. It’s 2.84 miles long but in terms of total mass it’s much smaller at 100,000 metric tons compared to the Babylon 5’s 2.5 million metric tons.
@@SpacialKatana That just means I have to keep an eye out for future videos. And I'm sorry for being a downer, I should have let you know that despite these omissions - I still really enjoy your work and should have let you know I appreciate all your hard work.
@@SpacialKatana I did watch to the end. What I didn't notice is that it's on a separate video. Not everyone looks at the linked cards at the end, or notices that 'VPK Bonus' might be 'Vorlon Planet Killer'. At first glance, I thought that said 'VFX Bonus' to be honest.
According to script of an unfilmed Crusade episode Excalibur did use it's main gun against that shadow hybrid ship and it was disabled. They were going to inspect it closer, but it self destructed.
The models were mostly made up to 20 years ago and some of the modelers are now industry veterans with many films under their belts. You may find a couple of these if you search hard enough, but the site we used to share went down years ago.
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Missing the Drakh mothership just to make everything else look small!
Makin' my way downtown. Walking fast, spaceships pass, and I'm homebound....
You do realize to get downtown you have to cut through alot of pressure doors...sealed back up again...after the last witch hunt.
@@RuralTowner No less than 47, each welded shut, not including the two big ones on either side of the waste treatment facility.
@@brettstowell4029 Depends on how well Clarke's goons sent to search for the doctor did on sealing things back up after cutting into them.
I see what you did there
Nice twist again by the shadows. They cannot leave things alone.
This is awesome! Shadow ships are so much bigger than I expected, my goodness!
The battle crabs come in different sizes
@@epyon1983 Yeah they're organic and likely grow. They range from about 500~1500m long so showing them in that range is fine.
The modeling on all these is EXCELLENT. And thanks for the love and effort shown for the B5 universe. My ONLY criticism is I would think the Hyperion class ships would be much smaller in comparison to the other capital ships (based on their usage in the show) and the Drakh cruiser should be much larger (again, based on a whitestar flying along it in the episode "Lines of Communication".)
I always enjoy these comparison videos . Kind of makes me feel like I am window shopping for a new one . :)
Ah yes, but which one would you choose?
@@SpacialKatana Well ..... If I say one of each I am afraid it would be seen as I was greedy ..... so I will take TWO of each . :)
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Great Video! Greets from Germany!
It's nice to have a couple of the crew sizes shown. I remember when I saw EC Henry's video on the size of the Enterprise-D and realised it could probably space-wise have over 100k people on board (though its official max capacity is 15k) The Victory class in particular having a crew of 600 is an almost comically small number - that'd be one lovely ship.
Good work. That sharlin and eifel tower is amazing!!! 👏👏👏
Thanks 😁
@@SpacialKatana you mean the destruction of the Eiffel Tower LOL
@@darrelldundee5045 NO, this video :- ua-cam.com/video/DjLlAX4kktc/v-deo.html
Awesome job keep Babylon 5 alive thanks katana
I love how much definition these models have. I could never see so much detail on the show, but then again these are space ships and space is dark.
These models are more detailed than the ones in the show due to limitations at the time.
Nice video, keep it up!
Tbh, I feel Centauri and Narn battleships should be larger and Hyperion class cruiser a bit smaller
Only complaint I have is the Flyer, we’ve seen that you can clearly sit down comfortably in one, with room to spare.
Just watched the whole series again SUPERB !!! thnx for this SHADOW SHIP still freaks me out
“it was jet black, a shade of black so deep your eye just kind of slides off it. And it shimmered when you looked at it. A spider big as death, and twice as ugly. And when it flies by, it’s like there’s a scream in your mind…”
RIP Lt Keffer.
@@Pete...NoNotThatOne nice quote! You`re a real fan, huh?
@@bernhardschnatterbeck5215 put it this way; personally I think all other sci-fi series suffer from one fatal flaw - not enough Londo Mollari!
Great work - thankyou!
Althought both planet killers of the Vorlons and Shadows are missing - as is that other Narn cruiser and that Centauri warbird.
I always thought the Whitestar would be a bit bigger since its able to house 3-4 Minbari fighters
2 Nials, it was scaled up twice during the show b/c of sets shown inside it. It suffers the same problem as ST's Bird of Prey.
Great work, but what's with the GTA Hooker? 😋
Where is the Thunderbolt and the First Ones (except the Shadows / Vorlons) and the races from Third Space .... thanks for the Video :) .... the blue star was new for me, never seen never heared about it
Blue Star is in the final episode [Sleeping In Light]...when Sheridan leaves IIRC...
Your best vid yet. Can you do an accurate Stargate vid someday?
Currently I have 0 SG models, so not likely sorry :(
I did not see the Vorlon and Shadow planet killers; need to bring that up. Would they need to compared against the Death Star moon instead?
Done videos like this before that had the Planet Killer in them, and it's so huge it wouldn't have worked in this one. The Shadow cloud is just that, a big cloud. Some things just have to be saved for a rainy day. FYI the PK is about 1/2 the size of the 1st Deathstar [DS 120km diameter, PK ~60km long]
Incredible crew view. Really shows the sense of scale of these ships.
Minbari war cruiser casually dwarfing the Eiffel Tower. Shadow vessel casually destroying said tower.
Wow. Awesome size/modeling display & graphic design
2:05 the Shadow's spider looking ship look different with the grey color, but then look at its shadow, then it looks like the real ship from Babylon 5. 🤣
The Shadow of a Shadow!
Awesome as always...
Great video.
You forgot the volon transport. Their best ship, Koch 's ship.
Second slow down the speed large space ships and include the same info as you did on the first row. It would make it much much better. Also give you better youtube play length.
Kudos to your hard work.
No one watches my videos for longer than 2 mins, pointless making long ones and b/c I don't live on YT uploading everyday the algorithm f*cks me over anyway. Pause if you can't read fast enough.
Thanx n e way :)
Great work! I love the ending humor with Shadow ship blasting Eiffel Tower😃
Thanks! 😁
В самом сериале для "Экскалибура" была указана длина, если не ошибаюсь, "миля с четвертью". То есть длина корабля - 2315 метров.
In the series itself, the length was indicated for 'Excalibur', if I am not mistaken, 'a mile and a quarter'. That is, the length of the ship is 2315 meters.
Search for Tim Earls Size Charts. The instance you're referring to was an oversight in the script. Find the charts by the ship's designer, and you'll see the size I used to be correct.
@@SpacialKatana>>> Similar to Captain Sheridan referring to the _Jack The Ripper_ murders in the _"West End"_ of London.
Great work. Though the standard Sharlin warcruiser is 1600m in LENGTH, giving it over 2km height.
And the Hyperion class heavy cruiser is 1025m long, it looked a bit upscaled against the Omega(1714m long) there.
Well if that's what the crew of a whitestar look like..
I'm enlisting.
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I believe that the Hyperion cruiser is quite smaller compared to the omega destroyer as depicted (?)
You know, the way the Sharlin is towering over the Eiffel Tower makes me think of a Reaper
I want to know how to get these models so I can use them for a video game...
Why didnt you go bigger? I would like to see a Vorlon planet killer shown the correct size as well as the other first ones ships.
EDIT- Just saw your next Video lol Exactly how it should be XD
Good lad :)
Pretty good. A few scaling questions, but not many.
What was that fourth white star design? Not the Blue Star, or the Victory class, or the white star classic.
It's an advanced Whitestar. It was modeled by Nadab Göksu who now works for EA Dice. Length ~150m
Hey man, where is the Eclips Vorlon ship - the largest one :)
In my other videos ;)
For that matter, where was the Shadow planet killer? I already know it would dwarf everything else, but I'm not entirely sure by how much...
@@seanmcgrath3826 Lots...
Would’ve been nice to see B4 as well, but other than that a great lineup!
Probably do a space station video sometime...
@@SpacialKatana if imagine Halo would probably have the biggest ones
These ships look badass . I’m wondering who would win in a franchise war . Star Wars . Star Trek . Battlestar Galactica or Babylon 5 ?
Depends which saddo you ask. I'm an animator I don't care
Great music from Christopher Franke
Nice but what is that Whitestar variant at the top right corner at 1:20? I've never seen it before but I'm liking it. It looks less than half the length of the original but could just as easily be a model for a big beefy heavy cruiser if you scaled it up a mile long.
Advanced Whitestar [non canon] It's 150m.
@@SpacialKatana Nice. So what kind of role do you see it in? We only see two classes of Shadow capitol ship with the smaller scout ship apparently being outmatched by the Whitestar classic one on one. Without the First Ones would this smaller variant function like the shadow scout then? That may overlap too much with the even smaller Bluestar though I suppose the Bluestar could focus more on sneak and run missions where risk of detection or combat is very low.
I remember you did a vid with a "Warlock" type upgrade or equivalent for the Nova or Hyperion for the EA fleet. There's plenty of room for heavier gunship versions of the Whitestar too. I mean the ISA Victory class is more like a Vorlon heavy or a Shadow battle crab. While loosely speaking they're just their versions of the Omega or Sharlin there's also a huge difference in power with the Victory coming closest to filling the void left when the First Ones went beyond the rim. Meaning the ISA still never had a true equivalent of a Whitestar Omega much less of a Sharlin or Warlock.
Your larger carrier Whitestar is great but I think they'd still need a bigger gun heavy brawler to match anything short of the Drahk one on one without dancing around. Maybe a bigger chunkier version of this model with the wings being a little stubbier to reflect more guns in more firing arcs than just straight ahead and less maneuvering or swooping around even if it's still pretty fast in straight lines.
nice video
Forgot the Vorlon planet killer ship , damn thing was gigantic.
Did that on purpose to make the video after it that you obviously haven't seen😝
Always seemed like the Narn Heavy Cruiser was bigger then Earth ships
It is bigger than some of them, but the Omega is just stupid long @1.7km
Great video.
It's interesting as I always assumed the Primus class was much bigger than that. It's even kinda dwarfed by the Omega class.
Yeah, a lot of it's length is the silly tail :)
This is not a criticism more of a comment, I think the only thing missing was Babylon 4 since that was supposed to be bigger than 5
Which I have a model of, and may do a starbase vid at a later date ;)
what about the narn and centari fighters? vree sausers? soul hunter ship?
Please advice which size of battlecrab you used? In ship description it was said that it comes in 3 different sizes.
One shown is 1.5km long [obviously wider] It's the middle variant, however don't get too hung up on Shadow sizes, they're organic so can really be any size within reason. The one's in the show varied between 1 to 2 km in length depending on who rendered it and where/what they were doing.
Thanks. I printed battlecrabs for my gorash scene with 1 km long. And yes it's width is what is giving them vast volume domination compared to similarity in length with gquan cruisers, which is clearly shown in my photos, you could check it in instagram if you wish. As for general size of battlecrab, I never considered before that it might be different not because it's built to particular size, but because this thing is growing over time, if we put into cosideration meaning of word organic. I might publish some of my research designs someday, where I crossbreed battlecrab with trilobite creatures, I need to recheck animation files for modern lightwave versions. Thanks a lot for your inspiration from b5 and LW fan.
ooo great thanks!!!!!!!
I didn't realize that the Cortez was that big.
The Cortez is parked right next to the station in the episode. It’s 2.84 miles long but in terms of total mass it’s much smaller at 100,000 metric tons compared to the Babylon 5’s 2.5 million metric tons.
Gorgeous gorgeous.
Would love to have seen the Narn and Centauri fighters included.
Bit tiny...and I don't think I had a Centauri fighter when I made this (I do now).
@@SpacialKatana That just means I have to keep an eye out for future videos.
And I'm sorry for being a downer, I should have let you know that despite these omissions - I still really enjoy your work and should have let you know I appreciate all your hard work.
missed Earthforce Nova class destroyer and the corvette. wished you had waited to paint the starships. Oh, Shadow scout ship. otherwise well done.
There are 3 other videos on my channel like this that are fully textured.
Would love to see Babylon 4 vs Babylon 5!
Need another 3K computer to do that, mine's too old to handle both the models I have at once ,not fast enough to be workable.
Love the fact the human comparison is wearing Come F*$k boots HAHAHAHAHA
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Please do the ships from honor Harrington 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I wish they made a B5-Online (like the Star Trek Online) where you could fly fhose ships!
Nearest you'll get is the B5 conversion for Freespace 2
No Vorlon or Shadow planet killer?
Subs see more than the passing vagrant...
;)
Sadly the Shadow ship didn't have a rest room.
The Shadow vessel/crew has lousy aim. It would fire THEN correct to cut the Klingons in half
What about the Vorlon planet killer?
Couldn't even be arsed to watch to the end...then you wouldn't have asked that question
@@SpacialKatana I did watch to the end. What I didn't notice is that it's on a separate video. Not everyone looks at the linked cards at the end, or notices that 'VPK Bonus' might be 'Vorlon Planet Killer'. At first glance, I thought that said 'VFX Bonus' to be honest.
Why do the aliens always go for the landmarks? lol!
Makes me wish we could've seen the Excalibur one-shot a Shadow vessel
According to script of an unfilmed Crusade episode Excalibur did use it's main gun against that shadow hybrid ship and it was disabled. They were going to inspect it closer, but it self destructed.
@@kimnice I read that script and it's why I curse the names of the people at TNT who are responsible for CRUSADES cancelation to this day
Crusade was garbage, as was The Legend of the Rangers film.
@@SpacialKatana
True, but at least the main story of Crusade would have gotten more interesting
*I ❤️ BABYLON 5!!!!!*
At about 03:25 in this video:
*TAKE THAT, FRANCE!*
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Ти сам це все моделиш?
Where is the vorlon planet killers
In the bonus vid I did afterwards :)
@@SpacialKatana oh you had me worried there Marcus said that he saw two of them at least two or three miles across so they'll be interesting
The end was a kind of disrespectful.
А где размеры то
hmmm i like the crew of the whitestar :)
You'd die with a smile on yer face to be sure:)
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Take it the shadows don't like the French ? Lol
Mimbari ship look fishy.
it's based off an angel fish.
Is it possible somehow to get these models?
The models were mostly made up to 20 years ago and some of the modelers are now industry veterans with many films under their belts. You may find a couple of these if you search hard enough, but the site we used to share went down years ago.
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