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The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time. Londo Mollari
....Everytime I heard this, I breakdown and cry For me, I has become a beffitting Tribute to my Biafran Fathers who fought in the Nigeria/Biafran war 1967 - 1970......An epic twillight struggle. ua-cam.com/video/EQCynPAoy0s/v-deo.html&pp=ygUnaW4gbWVtb3J5IG9mIHRoZSBmYWxsZW4gc3RhcnMgb2YgYmlhZnJh
It's ironic, isn't it?... I had every window in the palace blocked off because I was afraid, that if I came around the corner and saw this, unprepared,... that I would break down and cry And yet, I spend all my time here, in this room, looking at it.... In my life I had four wives.... I cared for them all deeply.... But I loved Centauri Prime! Loved every street, every tower, every inch of our world... Everything I did, I did for her, now look what we have done to her... But...there is hope, but it will be hard, it will be so very hard... .......Well',...Where was I? Yes,...The War!!! Emperor Mollari, 2278 (Peter Jurasik)RIP
Ah, yes. The Minibar War. I always found it funny how personally the Minbari took Sheridan destroying one of their ships. They mopped the floor with the humans everywhere else, but their one defeat deserved decades of anger against the guy who pulled it off? Did they forget it was a war?
That's the whole point. It was a failure on both sides, not just "humans being primitive savages". Minbari scanners messed with human ships - act of aggression, because it was basically jamming, even if unintentional(btw, Mindari never studied the possibility of their scanner affecting ships this way?). Open weapon ports - sign of aggression for every species in galaxy aside from Minbari. They didn't turn their weapon system on? How other side supposed to know this, especially if it is lees technically developed (and like 90% of other species are LESS developed than Minbari) and jammed by Minbari scanners. Minbari were arrogant and with superiority complex. This is why they acted the way they did. And, btw, why someone would send their most important vessel to check on unknown military ships?
@@madzaisathe Valen'tha wasn't checking out unknown ships, she was on a secret reconnaissance mission to Za'hadum to check out recent Shadow activity when the Earth force expedition was detected
Able. They were angry not because the Minibari War Cruisers suffered a defeat, but because they lost their greatest War Cruiser and Captain in what was a "trap" even though the Black Star was using trap tactics itself.
To be more precise Black Star had the best of the best and children of the council and influential Minbari. So losing Black Star was a lot more emotional. So entire future generation of the council got killed leaving. The entire Minbari race is declining with a lower and lower birth rate.
Excellent video that I just loved to watch. The Minbari talked about the defeat of Black Star as the act of dishonor, cowardice. But the Minbari didn't fight a fair fight themselves. They merely slaughtered a weaker enemy that couldn't match their technological superiority. There is no honor in beating a much weaker opponent. However, the humanity learned an important lesson here, too. Don't be too cocky or it'll cost you.
It is more than just the Minbari viewing the humans as weaker. The Minbari warrior caste, in the 1000 years since the previous Shadow War, had fallen for the Shadow philosophy. They viewed themselves as technologically and evolutionarily superior. This is why they took in Jha'dur and her people in the 2230s. It is why they met with agents of the Darkness before and after the Minbari War. It is how they knew how to kill Vorlons with a poison. And after the Shadow War, it is why they welcomed the Drakh then lived to regret it. The Drakh were helping both sides of the Minbari Civil War.
I even remember some folks referring to this show as "Babble On Five." Compared to what was on at the time, it was light years ahead and still looks good to this former "Star Trekker."
@shawncooper8131 apart from STNG & Doctor Who I don't think any other science fiction show at the time had got past 3 seasons. To be specific no American space based science fiction.
In case any of the B5 fans on this page were unaware of it. We just had a Brand New Animated B5 movie released on August 14th. A project led by JMS himself and including the voice talents of the surviving cast members plus a few voice actors. A 30th Anniversary Tribute. Called Babylon 5: The Road Home.
I never saw Babylon 5 until i saw it was on Tubi, and started watching it 3 weeks ago. Last night I made it halfway through season 3. I'm really loving the series so far. I actually like it as much, if not more than Star Trek.
i agree it is in an episodic fomate as well and i much prefer that over star trek.i love star trek not the og star trek as much as the next generation though. the last star trek movie nemesis was awful the plot the really made no sense.they need to make one more movie at lest to end star trek the next generation movies.
Funny you should mention Star Trek. DS9 was its competition and to promote peace, they brought on Gene Roddenburys widow as the former Empress who prophesies that Londo and Vir will both be Emperor. Dont forget Chekov.... I mean Bester
Tubi is great! The show looks great on Tubi, much much better then standard tv and the DVDs i purchased decades ago. I am not a tech guy, but they did something to enhance the show, it really pops and looks vibrant.
@@MacsLore oh I know. Your homeworld videos are something I wait for as much as a black pants legion documentaries. I’d love to see you do more battle space style videos if you ever get the inclination
B5 was one of the greatest epic science fiction programs ever. The storyline was basically a full 5 years long. Some episodes stood alone, but overall, everything fit togther. I don't think anyone could make another series like this one.
There were multiple story lines and there was at least a little something pushing a story line forward in every episode. Sometimes it was a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment. JMS had so much going that he actually dropped a few threads so he could keep everything moving.
That was really good, thank you. I've been waiting for someone to reignite Babylon 5 in either a TV series or Movie. It's just too strong a story to be forgotten about, it needs to be rebooted asap.
"No greater sacrifice has ever been asked of a people, but I ask you now... To step forward one last time... One last battle... To hold the line against the night." My favorite scene in my favorite show, ever.
Really loved this video, very well made. Brought tears to my eyes seeing the memorial tribute at the end, so many of the cast have gone beyond the rim.
At first I was just going to tribute Mira, as Delenn was a major player in this story. Then I stumbled upon how Michael O'Hare sadly passed and thought to add him. Then I realized how many others are unfortunately gone now and how it didn't feel right just to select a few, so in the end I added all of them regardless of whether or not their characters were on "In the Beginning".
As a long-time Babylon 5 fan, this is a story I'm very familiar with, but the production, the CGI, the narration in this video made it a pleasure to revisit once again. Fantastic job!
To call it a "war" gives humanity too much credit. It was an unabashed slaughter with the Minbari wiping out everything in their path, losing no ships with the exception of the Blackstar, and only ending because the Minbari stayed their hand at the final moment
I came to a revelation a week or two ago playing Arkham Knight. The Minbari are Batman, and the EA were just a rando street-level thug that just wont stop taunting him despite having all his bones broken by the Bat 5 times in the same night.
The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time. Doesn't sound like a slaughter to me.
In the Beginning is my favorite Babylon 5 movie. It's full of contrivances and minor plot holes to get all the familiar characters involved, and one does wonder why but the EA and Mimbari have no sensible first contact protocols (or indeed why the Mimbari never figured out the message the EA ships sent before firing), but the movie and plot have so much heart and it is such a fantastic backdrop for the series.
Great video. Something occurs to me: The Vorlons said ‘the truth points to itself’. Delenn chooses Sinclair who becomes/is Valen. She’s a child of Valen. It’s a whole cycle
I'm a massive fan of Babylon 5. When so much information was released as pertinent episodes came out, it's nice to condense it into a lore video like this. I found your channel with your Homeworld lore. I hope with Homeworld 3 on the horizon that it can give you some new lore.
Love me some Babylon 5! The first Season was a bit of a slog to get through but beginning with season 2, I was hooked. The effects may not be up to par compared to today but the characters, story and theme as well as all the happenings always bring me back to re-watch B5. Nice summary, Mac!
When the aliens beat you in every single battle (except one), they bypass mars to go straight for Earth, then surrender their entire fleet, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, you know something is wrong. Sinclair == Valen. Greatest sci-fi story arc ever!
It is amazing that only decades after this devastating defeat, the people are re-establishing not only their army, but also their authority and influence among the other races!
B5 was one of the best sci-fi shows in the 90's. One reason was you didn't have to be a sci-fi fan to enjoy it. If you are into Drama, mystery and intrigue then you would love this show.
I wonder if Sheridan had been originally selected because he would override Jankowski if Jankowski proceeded to screw up. Unfortunately Sheridan bowed out and EarthForce had to select someone else.
@@kimnice Political connections? Jankowski was cleared of the Omega Incident, and perhaps they were hoping Sheridan would be high ranking enough to overrule Jankowski. But without Sheridan they only had the original ship Captain who didn't have enough confidence to overrule Jankowski, and things kinda went bad.
This is.. Wow... I love the CGI and the storytelling... Makes me want to watch my B5 series all over again... Hoping there are more videos like this... Brilliant brilliant storytelling...
I liked that too. It's nice both the Humans and Minbari grew so close in their connection that both races transcended shortly after each other. (Humans first, then Minbari)
@@JH24821 ummm.... actually.... Humans in the ISA became very close friends with the Mnbari. Humans back at Earthdome remained xenophobic isolationists. Save for a few meta-national corporations which, by definition, couldn't be controlled by the EA.
@@jdlech I'm talking about what happened after the "Great Burn." I know there was a xenophobic faction that, a few centuries later, got into conflict with the pro-Alliance faction which resulted in a nuclear war.
I can’t believe it has taken me this long to find your channel. I’ve binged most of your playlists the past couple of days and can’t wait to see what else you produce: you cover many of my favorite IPs from my middle school through college years (Wing Commander, Star Siege, Homeworld, and B5)! Thank you for your work and I will definitely support your channel on Patreon or whichever other preferred platform you have.
I know this story well, because I am a huge fan of the Babylon 5 series and movies! Even though, I thought this was a great retelling of the movie it is based off of. Great job, Mac!
Wow you did a great job with this video. Your 3D and 2D graphics are great. And it's a worthwhile tale of arrogance and biting off more than you can chew. Silly outfits and dated CG aside, Babylon 5 had great writing and acting. Londo's scene with the ambassador is terrific. It therefore stands head and shoulders above much of the modern schlock Hollywood currently excretes.
I've watched this story from beginning to end at least 5 times. You gave a fantastic overview of this. I can only conclude that you love this as much as I do. Have a sub and my gratitude Sir.
Great video,I absolutely love B.5., in my humble opinion probably the best Sci fi show in its Space combat and ship designs... And the characters were brilliantly portrayed by a magnificent cast... G'ka and Londo Molari(Who was so much like my Grandfather lol) had some of the most unique combined storylines I've seen... Imagine what you could do with that storyline combined with modern film techniques and FX... It could be MINDBLOWING...😅
Loved the video. It's nice to see B5 get some love. I wonder if you have ever thought about doing videos for the Battletech Universe? If not, look into it. It might peak your interest :)
Wow Ive seen this story lot and lots of times but this on of the first times ive see a new way of seeing and hearing told this way very nice i think i will subscribe and keep y eye out for more :) GJ
Beautiful video. But just one note--Koplann is the one who said "whether they fight or nor they know they will die anyway, so is this bravery or simple desperation?" Morann is the one who asked Delenn to cast the deciding vote to either pursue the Promotheus or to hold back (wherein Delenn, holding Dukhat's body, screamed "They deserve no mercy. Follow them to their bases and kill them all! All of them! No mercy!")
I never understood the targeting problems with the Minbari. Even if you couldn't lock sensors on them, they aren't visually invisible. You could visually guide weapons by remote or even a dragged wire. In a last ditch and desperate stand, you could equip extremely small and fast craft with nuclear weapons for suicide runs.
You wouldn't necessarily need space-Kamikazes. We've had guided missiles that lock in on radar jammers since before Desert Storm. It's no great stretch to imagine EarthForce trying to come up with antiship missiles and fire control systems that target the loudest source of Minbari sensor noise. That said, by definition that kind of targeting system has to wait until the Minbari ship lights up its sensors first before the Human ship even realizes there's a threat, which gives the Minbari a huge head start on lining up shots. Perhaps the best explanation is that Human ships weren't helpless, but having to overcome the huge range and sensor advantage meant they were at a steep disadvantage, and that's why the war lasted a full two years instead of Humanity being immediately curb-stomped in the first couple weeks.
I noticed that your In Memoriam was missing Tim Choate from his role as Zathras and Stephen Furst is there twice. There are multiple others who have passed but I think Zathras was pretty important charecter in probably the best two-parter episode, plus few more appearances.
Star trek was a show with one episode after another. If you missed one - no problem, but the first sci fi show with an evolving story was Babylon 5. If you missed a show, there was a gap in information, what had happened in the last show.
I liked the retelling of the story; but there are at least one inaccuracies. A member of the warrior cast told Delenn we should capture and interrogate one of them to find out about the planetary defense.
Thank you for reminding me of my favorite series. I can only hope that they will fail to make a remake and leave one of the last not horribly mangeled franchises with new versions for modern audience alone.
The corrected version of the "In Tribute" section can be found here:
ua-cam.com/channels/2NlYzG9to57fbjIgKSaPcg.htmlcommunity?lb=UgkxKqvFFcqTXEjz1DqA6KBlXguujhmA0_U9
> "Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you!"
~ Londo Mollari
Which foretold his behaviour later.
The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time. Londo Mollari
That was a great scene. Londo had many of the best ones in Babylon Five. My personal favorite was his final conversation with Mr. Morden.
Poor Londo.
....Everytime I heard this, I breakdown and cry
For me, I has become a beffitting Tribute to my Biafran Fathers who fought in the Nigeria/Biafran war 1967 - 1970......An epic twillight struggle.
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It's ironic, isn't it?...
I had every window in the palace blocked off because I was afraid, that if I came around the corner and saw this, unprepared,... that I would break down and cry
And yet, I spend all my time here, in this room, looking at it....
In my life I had four wives.... I cared for them all deeply.... But I loved Centauri Prime!
Loved every street, every tower, every inch of our world...
Everything I did, I did for her, now look what we have done to her...
But...there is hope, but it will be hard, it will be so very hard...
.......Well',...Where was I?
Yes,...The War!!!
Emperor Mollari, 2278 (Peter Jurasik)RIP
The quintessential moment of the entire Babylon-5 story....
Londo telling the story of the Earth-Minbari war....In the Begining
Ah, yes. The Minibar War.
I always found it funny how personally the Minbari took Sheridan destroying one of their ships. They mopped the floor with the humans everywhere else, but their one defeat deserved decades of anger against the guy who pulled it off? Did they forget it was a war?
That's the whole point. It was a failure on both sides, not just "humans being primitive savages". Minbari scanners messed with human ships - act of aggression, because it was basically jamming, even if unintentional(btw, Mindari never studied the possibility of their scanner affecting ships this way?). Open weapon ports - sign of aggression for every species in galaxy aside from Minbari. They didn't turn their weapon system on? How other side supposed to know this, especially if it is lees technically developed (and like 90% of other species are LESS developed than Minbari) and jammed by Minbari scanners. Minbari were arrogant and with superiority complex. This is why they acted the way they did. And, btw, why someone would send their most important vessel to check on unknown military ships?
@@madzaisathe Valen'tha wasn't checking out unknown ships, she was on a secret reconnaissance mission to Za'hadum to check out recent Shadow activity when the Earth force expedition was detected
Able. They were angry not because the Minibari War Cruisers suffered a defeat, but because they lost their greatest War Cruiser and Captain in what was a "trap" even though the Black Star was using trap tactics itself.
To be more precise Black Star had the best of the best and children of the council and influential Minbari. So losing Black Star was a lot more emotional. So entire future generation of the council got killed leaving.
The entire Minbari race is declining with a lower and lower birth rate.
Yea I always thought it was a little weird
Nice to see the Babylon 5 universe is get a much deserved renaissance.
Excellent video that I just loved to watch. The Minbari talked about the defeat of Black Star as the act of dishonor, cowardice. But the Minbari didn't fight a fair fight themselves. They merely slaughtered a weaker enemy that couldn't match their technological superiority. There is no honor in beating a much weaker opponent. However, the humanity learned an important lesson here, too. Don't be too cocky or it'll cost you.
It had to go that way or sinclair wouldn't have been where he needed to be at the time required. The closed loop.
It is more than just the Minbari viewing the humans as weaker. The Minbari warrior caste, in the 1000 years since the previous Shadow War, had fallen for the Shadow philosophy. They viewed themselves as technologically and evolutionarily superior. This is why they took in Jha'dur and her people in the 2230s. It is why they met with agents of the Darkness before and after the Minbari War. It is how they knew how to kill Vorlons with a poison. And after the Shadow War, it is why they welcomed the Drakh then lived to regret it. The Drakh were helping both sides of the Minbari Civil War.
This show is the Lord of the Rings of science fiction. It really has never had the critical recognition it should have.
I even remember some folks referring to this show as "Babble On Five." Compared to what was on at the time, it was light years ahead and still looks good to this former "Star Trekker."
@@Otokichi786 I just watched the new animated movie. 'The road home' I enjoyed it a lot.
But still Lucky that Star trek wasn't up or any fiction. Gave it the legs it need to do the full story line.
True !
@shawncooper8131 apart from STNG & Doctor Who I don't think any other science fiction show at the time had got past 3 seasons.
To be specific no American space based science fiction.
Zathras approves of this video. And so does Zathras!
Zathras also agree's. Zathras doesn't understand why. Zathras not good at understanding. ZATHRUS good at doing
What about Zatharas?
Only Zathras knows the One
In case any of the B5 fans on this page were unaware of it. We just had a Brand New Animated B5 movie released on August 14th. A project led by JMS himself and including the voice talents of the surviving cast members plus a few voice actors. A 30th Anniversary Tribute. Called Babylon 5: The Road Home.
Wait what? Where can I find it?
@@legogonkdroid1839
Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Google Play ... probably some other streaming service as well.
@@legogonkdroid1839 amazon prime
@@legogonkdroid1839please spend money on it it's the only way we get more
I want it on DVD. F streaming
Wow. I didnt thin ppl would still put in so much effort for b5 content. I seriously love your efforts. Thank you
I never saw Babylon 5 until i saw it was on Tubi, and started watching it 3 weeks ago. Last night I made it halfway through season 3. I'm really loving the series so far. I actually like it as much, if not more than Star Trek.
The show builds on itself beautifully. Love it how everything gets connected from s1 to the end
i agree it is in an episodic fomate as well and i much prefer that over star trek.i love star trek not the og star trek as much as the next generation though. the last star trek movie nemesis was awful the plot the really made no sense.they need to make one more movie at lest to end star trek the next generation movies.
Funny you should mention Star Trek. DS9 was its competition and to promote peace, they brought on Gene Roddenburys widow as the former Empress who prophesies that Londo and Vir will both be Emperor. Dont forget Chekov.... I mean Bester
@@Aenarion28 Oh he did such a good job as Bester!
I never knew that was Roddenberry’s widow. That’s pretty cool.
Tubi is great! The show looks great on Tubi, much much better then standard tv and the DVDs i purchased decades ago. I am not a tech guy, but they did something to enhance the show, it really pops and looks vibrant.
Once again, a masterpiece. Those graphics on the ships and the zoom out to tactical is perfect
Thanks!
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(I stole the idea from Homeworld)
@@MacsLore oh I know. Your homeworld videos are something I wait for as much as a black pants legion documentaries. I’d love to see you do more battle space style videos if you ever get the inclination
B5 was one of the greatest epic science fiction programs ever. The storyline was basically a full 5 years long. Some episodes stood alone, but overall, everything fit togther. I don't think anyone could make another series like this one.
There were multiple story lines and there was at least a little something pushing a story line forward in every episode. Sometimes it was a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment. JMS had so much going that he actually dropped a few threads so he could keep everything moving.
Holy heck, a Babylon 5 video. Worth the wait!
That was really good, thank you. I've been waiting for someone to reignite Babylon 5 in either a TV series or Movie. It's just too strong a story to be forgotten about, it needs to be rebooted asap.
Reboots never really work out. Re-run on the other hand, I mean, look at Star Trek the original , still going strong on re-runs
"No greater sacrifice has ever been asked of a people, but I ask you now... To step forward one last time... One last battle... To hold the line against the night."
My favorite scene in my favorite show, ever.
I am flabbergasted by how good this video is. Holy smokes. Everything. *applause*
Really loved this video, very well made. Brought tears to my eyes seeing the memorial tribute at the end, so many of the cast have gone beyond the rim.
At first I was just going to tribute Mira, as Delenn was a major player in this story. Then I stumbled upon how Michael O'Hare sadly passed and thought to add him. Then I realized how many others are unfortunately gone now and how it didn't feel right just to select a few, so in the end I added all of them regardless of whether or not their characters were on "In the Beginning".
@@MacsLore I loved Stephen Furst, but I didn't know he passed away twice :(
20,000 Ships were at "the battle of the Line" but only 200 survived....We came this close to "Lights out".
Tak!
Thank You for your generosity!
As a long-time Babylon 5 fan, this is a story I'm very familiar with, but the production, the CGI, the narration in this video made it a pleasure to revisit once again. Fantastic job!
This is the best recap I have seen of the war.
Finally someone made a joke about Dukat being the leader of the Minbari
The gul of him to do that
The Season 3 Episode "War without End Part 1 & II" explains why Sinclair is so special and how events might of played out otherwise.
To call it a "war" gives humanity too much credit. It was an unabashed slaughter with the Minbari wiping out everything in their path, losing no ships with the exception of the Blackstar, and only ending because the Minbari stayed their hand at the final moment
I came to a revelation a week or two ago playing Arkham Knight. The Minbari are Batman, and the EA were just a rando street-level thug that just wont stop taunting him despite having all his bones broken by the Bat 5 times in the same night.
I don't know, earth force put up an incredible fight, 30 months. Of war making the pay for victory.
The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time.
Doesn't sound like a slaughter to me.
@@michaelhutchins1844 emporer molari
@@michaelhutchins1844 It's still a slaughter, that the EA forces ran towards the butchers rather than away, doesn't mean it wasn't a slaughter
"Very well Delenn, choose. But quickly, we are fast running out of candidates."
Just listening to this retelling reminds me with the tears pricking at my eyes just how good a story this was!
Hope there will be more babylon 5 videos, this was superb.
The memory and tribute brought tears to my eyes. And such a beautifully rendered video. Thank you and congratulations
In the Beginning is my favorite Babylon 5 movie. It's full of contrivances and minor plot holes to get all the familiar characters involved, and one does wonder why but the EA and Mimbari have no sensible first contact protocols (or indeed why the Mimbari never figured out the message the EA ships sent before firing), but the movie and plot have so much heart and it is such a fantastic backdrop for the series.
Brings me back to my youth! What a story it was. Love to see you do the story up to and with the Shadow war. Masterpiece you did.
Great video. Something occurs to me:
The Vorlons said ‘the truth points to itself’. Delenn chooses Sinclair who becomes/is Valen. She’s a child of Valen. It’s a whole cycle
I'm a massive fan of Babylon 5. When so much information was released as pertinent episodes came out, it's nice to condense it into a lore video like this. I found your channel with your Homeworld lore. I hope with Homeworld 3 on the horizon that it can give you some new lore.
Mate, found you through your Wing Commander vids, and then you make this B5 masterpiece. :) Well done.
Love me some Babylon 5! The first Season was a bit of a slog to get through but beginning with season 2, I was hooked. The effects may not be up to par compared to today but the characters, story and theme as well as all the happenings always bring me back to re-watch B5. Nice summary, Mac!
First season could have had 2 episodes removed
Fantastic high quality content. You deserve more eyes on this!
The truth ALWAYS points to itself!
Nice 1 Mac!
I just dropped a link for this in the Babylon 5, FB group. Great doc! In the Beginning always gave me the most feelings of all the B5 movies.
When the aliens beat you in every single battle (except one), they bypass mars to go straight for Earth, then surrender their entire fleet, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, you know something is wrong.
Sinclair == Valen.
Greatest sci-fi story arc ever!
It is criminal that more folks that are B5 fans, haven’t seems this! Love it! Great quality, graphics and voiceover.
Excellent summary. _In the Beginning_ was a fantastic special.
Simply one of the finest sci-fi shows ever made and sadly underrated in its time .Glad to see it finally getting the praise it truly deserves .
It is amazing that only decades after this devastating defeat, the people are re-establishing not only their army, but also their authority and influence among the other races!
Excellent summary and I love the updated graphics.
Love the mention and picture of Gul Dukat lol
Same here. The whole B5/DS9 story still cracks me up.
Seems like ive waited a lifetime for this specific story ,Thank You
Been a while since you uploaded Mac and as soon as I Saw Babylon 5 I was hooked 😊
Same. He does shorts sometimes. I got hooked when he did the amazing homeworld videos.
Yeah, it's really easy for me to get lost in ~*The Process*~
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Mac I hope you you'll in the future cover the epicness of the civil war between Sheridans forces and Clarks forces?
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Babylon 5 Is one of the Great sci fi shows I love
Very nicely done!! RESPECT!👍
Another banger very much worth the wait. Babylon 5 is one of my favourite series from my childhood so it's awesome seeing a video about it.
This is the best telling of the war other than the show itself that I've ever heard. Great job!!!
B5 was one of the best sci-fi shows in the 90's. One reason was you didn't have to be a sci-fi fan to enjoy it. If you are into Drama, mystery and intrigue then you would love this show.
“After the Omega Incident…” “The military tribunal cleared Jankowski of all charges.” Brilliant Human Resources guys.
I wonder if Sheridan had been originally selected because he would override Jankowski if Jankowski proceeded to screw up. Unfortunately Sheridan bowed out and EarthForce had to select someone else.
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Why Jankowski was chosen for that mission if they knew he was really bad choice for that exact mission?
@@kimnice Political connections? Jankowski was cleared of the Omega Incident, and perhaps they were hoping Sheridan would be high ranking enough to overrule Jankowski.
But without Sheridan they only had the original ship Captain who didn't have enough confidence to overrule Jankowski, and things kinda went bad.
Yooo your quality is so good, loved the inserts of the characters. Hard to tell any B5 story without the great characters
This is.. Wow... I love the CGI and the storytelling... Makes me want to watch my B5 series all over again... Hoping there are more videos like this...
Brilliant brilliant storytelling...
Glad the Mimbari became not just allies, but close allies.
I liked that too. It's nice both the Humans and Minbari grew so close in their connection that both races transcended shortly after each other. (Humans first, then Minbari)
@@JH24821 ummm.... actually....
Humans in the ISA became very close friends with the Mnbari. Humans back at Earthdome remained xenophobic isolationists. Save for a few meta-national corporations which, by definition, couldn't be controlled by the EA.
@@jdlech I'm talking about what happened after the "Great Burn." I know there was a xenophobic faction that, a few centuries later, got into conflict with the pro-Alliance faction which resulted in a nuclear war.
Where in recent history has that happened in real life?
@@anthonybanchero3072 The Soviet Union during the Second World War.
You did an AMAZING JOB on the video.
Love the channel. Best efforts are seen. Great way to experience lore! Cinematic and Ken Burns-esque.
This is absolutely fantastic. So well produced and narrated. Beloved B5 fan from day one and it brought so many memories back. Thank you ! :D
I can’t believe it has taken me this long to find your channel. I’ve binged most of your playlists the past couple of days and can’t wait to see what else you produce: you cover many of my favorite IPs from my middle school through college years (Wing Commander, Star Siege, Homeworld, and B5)! Thank you for your work and I will definitely support your channel on Patreon or whichever other preferred platform you have.
I have always seen Babylon 5 as a sci-fi adaptation of Tolkien's works. And that just makes it amazing!
I know this story well, because I am a huge fan of the Babylon 5 series and movies! Even though, I thought this was a great retelling of the movie it is based off of. Great job, Mac!
This was so awesome. Finally I get the whole story🎉 thank you so much
I love this series ... the story telling is epic ... well done telling the story of the Earth Minbari War ... i miss this show
I always have a like put aside waiting to be used for great B5 content, thank you so much!
Wow you did a great job with this video. Your 3D and 2D graphics are great. And it's a worthwhile tale of arrogance and biting off more than you can chew. Silly outfits and dated CG aside, Babylon 5 had great writing and acting. Londo's scene with the ambassador is terrific. It therefore stands head and shoulders above much of the modern schlock Hollywood currently excretes.
Man, this was great! I'm going to rewatch this series again! Thanks 👍🏽
I've watched this story from beginning to end at least 5 times. You gave a fantastic overview of this. I can only conclude that you love this as much as I do. Have a sub and my gratitude Sir.
Great video,I absolutely love B.5., in my humble opinion probably the best Sci fi show in its Space combat and ship designs...
And the characters were brilliantly portrayed by a magnificent cast...
G'ka and Londo Molari(Who was so much like my Grandfather lol) had some of the most unique combined storylines I've seen...
Imagine what you could do with that storyline combined with modern film techniques and FX...
It could be MINDBLOWING...😅
Loved the video. It's nice to see B5 get some love. I wonder if you have ever thought about doing videos for the Battletech Universe? If not, look into it. It might peak your interest :)
The images and art are exquisite, great narrative as well, a love letter to the fans.
Also 6:09, "EULA'S REVENGE", fascinating.
I love this, I really hope you do more B5 videos, this is amazing.
Really enjoyed listening to the to this and the voice is definitely easy to listen to.
Thankyou for recapping one if the greatest sci fi
Amazing video! Babylon 5 is one of my favorite sci-fi shows!
Awesome, video of a great TV show. Thanks for making it.
excelent video again all the old memories that come back as i watched this video thx for making and uploading it.
Mate just found this channel, great content, sensational work on these videos. Thank you all your hard work.
Another high quality video, very enjoyable
Excellent Mac!
WELL DONE !!!!! SO MUCH BABYLON 5 IN LESS THAN A MONTH... SOOOO HAPPY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh how I've missed yhis series! One of the BEST scifi stories ever written for TV.
Wow Ive seen this story lot and lots of times but this on of the first times ive see a new way of seeing and hearing told this way very nice i think i will subscribe and keep y eye out for more :) GJ
Outstanding work!
I can honestly say I enjoyed listening to every moment of this video.....
Awesome video...please keep up the good work :)
Very well done. I really enjoyed this.
Great video and visuals. Look forward to seeing where you take the channel. +1 subscriber.
A well made and narrated video. Very well done.
Gul Dukat errr Dukhat... Had me rolling😂
Nice job. Good tone speed and all that
A beautiful tribute to the B5 lore. I see Stephen Furst is named twice in the memory and tribute ending.
Yeah, unfortunately it was a mistake that I realized was in there and was far too late for me to pull the video and do a quick reupload.
this is most surprising and very well done.
Beautiful video. But just one note--Koplann is the one who said "whether they fight or nor they know they will die anyway, so is this bravery or simple desperation?"
Morann is the one who asked Delenn to cast the deciding vote to either pursue the Promotheus or to hold back (wherein Delenn, holding Dukhat's body, screamed "They deserve no mercy. Follow them to their bases and kill them all! All of them! No mercy!")
I swear the writer must have been looking at his minibar while writing this and went 'mmmm what name can I give it."
I never understood the targeting problems with the Minbari. Even if you couldn't lock sensors on them, they aren't visually invisible. You could visually guide weapons by remote or even a dragged wire. In a last ditch and desperate stand, you could equip extremely small and fast craft with nuclear weapons for suicide runs.
You wouldn't necessarily need space-Kamikazes. We've had guided missiles that lock in on radar jammers since before Desert Storm. It's no great stretch to imagine EarthForce trying to come up with antiship missiles and fire control systems that target the loudest source of Minbari sensor noise.
That said, by definition that kind of targeting system has to wait until the Minbari ship lights up its sensors first before the Human ship even realizes there's a threat, which gives the Minbari a huge head start on lining up shots.
Perhaps the best explanation is that Human ships weren't helpless, but having to overcome the huge range and sensor advantage meant they were at a steep disadvantage, and that's why the war lasted a full two years instead of Humanity being immediately curb-stomped in the first couple weeks.
I noticed that your In Memoriam was missing Tim Choate from his role as Zathras and Stephen Furst is there twice. There are multiple others who have passed but I think Zathras was pretty important charecter in probably the best two-parter episode, plus few more appearances.
You are correct.
Star trek was a show with one episode after another. If you missed one - no problem, but the first sci fi show with an evolving story was Babylon 5. If you missed a show, there was a gap in information, what had happened in the last show.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I liked the retelling of the story; but there are at least one inaccuracies. A member of the warrior cast told Delenn we should capture and interrogate one of them to find out about the planetary defense.
What an awesome video.
Thank you for reminding me of my favorite series.
I can only hope that they will fail to make a remake and leave one of the last not horribly mangeled
franchises with new versions for modern audience alone.