Adding a comment here because WOW ya'll have been so nice. With the majority of question/discussion comments as well this comment section has just been so incredibly kind. I expected ya'll to be mean and call us slurs or something so I want to thank you all for not only interacting with the video but saying so many kind words.
Replying to this comment but I'm honestly really hoping for the trans Roxy thing to be brought up because its a very cool thing for a game to have... Perhaps a 2 themed video with bonnie and freddy's potential romance in the games and roxy's identity as a converted foxy? i think itd be pretty neat for a pride month video! no pressure though because some theories are more important than others
i think that just goes to show how incredibly well put together this video was, im usually pretty stubborn about new theories but this got me, i cant really come up with anythinng wrong with it that is based on proven fact
Hey I'll take this over the actual cousin cornering me . . . . . . She had invited me upstairs to watch a show or movie, but apparently just wanted to make out??? Virginia is wild yall
Notice how when Michael jumps out at CC from behind the TV, he holds up two backwards fingers. This is the British version of flipping someone off. This means that in FNaF 4, the Aftons were established as being British.
Oh crap. I forgot editing a comment gets rid of the heart. I just fixed a typo. Anyway. The FNaF 4 family is British!? **Readies scooper** Always has been.
One of the funniest parts about the FNAF lore to be will always be that the Aftons are inexplicably British for no other reason than British people sound more menacing. Like that's so funny.
That one moment of Michael flipping off his brother didn't mean anything until we heard the voice of William Afton in Sister Location. Now we have a clear connection between the FNaF 4 brothers and William Afton. Being British. They were Aftons. They always have been.
@The.great.and.powerful.Tonnish I completely agree, it's still a good narrative interpretation, but for this timeline it makes much more sense for TOYSNHK's identity to be Cassidy (crying child)
For those reading the replies who are unsure how massive of a deal this is, curly black hair is associated by the books to the kid possessing golden Freddy
58:38 THE FACT that you seem to have solved 1) the box 2) the patch of dirt in MM, and 3) the wound inflicted on Henry all in one fell swoop, while at the same time giving William not only a motive but a method for how he got away with it?? And that it MAKES SENSE both in-universe and narratively???? Insane. I don't think I'll be able to see any other theories the same after this.
@@darkpain2452 Elizabeth is dead after Fnaf6, and William cant build robot children thats what the novels told us. The one in UCN is either Andrew or Cassidy. Nightmarrione is just a shadow
@@darkpain2452 Thats not how remnant works, Eleanor dies btw. She is trapped in an eternal nightmare and jake kills her. The name was about the happiest day, GF aka Cassidy receives happiest day so its her name. Movie shows CC"s name is probably Garret. OMC is not working for vanny, he works against her and the mimic
@@darkpain2452 I know how remnant works, ur basing it of AR not Talbert. Eleanor is knocked out by Jake, this is outright said in the story. OMC is an entity to represent William's crimes, he is not related to Vanessa/Vanny since she is under Glitchtrap aka Mimic1 Btw Vanessa is not Puppet, this is simply false
@@SchoolNotes-n7x Help wanted 2, Vanny Smash Glitchtrap was not the frist time the one write the code in mike room was vanessa, she plan for security breach, she planned for gregory to escape and destroy the animaltronics, and burn burntrap "Btw Vanessa is not Puppet, this is simply false" its because vannesa is based in charliebot, that uses the same program as the puppet, its named "Baby", william afton steal the program created by henry, creates his own version of it, called "Circus Baby" they shared the same network, Charlie is possesing the network itself, that why she different of others this explain of behavior of charlie in ultimate custom night “I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way.” “Seeing you powerless is like music to me.” the reason why charlie doesn't hate william, its because she has memories of being his daughter, she is haunting the network that has elizabeth as node and explain behavior of circus baby in fnaf 6 “It feels like home...” “It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?” fnaf 6 is making circus baby remember her birthday party, elements 1-fredbear family dinner 2-the place where everything started and now ending, full cycle 3-the only party we know happened in fredbear family dinner, was the crying child and charlie 4-the party created by henry in fnaf 6 to end all the tragedy that started in charlie party, its making circus baby remember of her party long ago 5-in her final dialogue circus baby talks all this is a gift for her and someone else she talks about finally able to fulfill her purpose i have question for you, she was really talking about killing living children? actually does even metioned? or she was talking about pieces of the ghost kids, that are scattered everywhere, Henry intructs the player of fnaf 6 to collected all them together in one place? Henry isn't god, its a human is very aware of things happening, but not of every single thing, so isn't definitive answer to everything, there always chance he missundertood something or was wrong about something you think Circus Baby tricked mike in sister location for no reason(she has reason and he deserves, the bite 1983, the one mike did caused , she is very vengeful to things, acts like she doesn't care, but she actually do) one more question who did trapped circus baby in game timeline? and trilogy of book? who she is angry at, and comes to that other person? in both timelines? the final dialogue of Circus Baby and henry in fnaf 6, its was not about Elizabeth and Henry but the final dialogue between charlie and henry, after decades of course he did never noticed, circus baby was pretending so much to other way, you can't even tell, she was haunted by charlie, like a twisted charlie eleanor betrayes willliam in fazbear frigths, the same way
You know what I enjoy about this theory? Narrative-wise, it's VERY satisfying. The abused son who was made to do his father's dirty work and was thrown away as 'expendable', only for said expendability to be a huge mistake and end up biting his jerk father in the face in the end? It FITS. It's NATURAL. It doesn't FEEL like a massive stretch. From strictly a writing perspective (seeing as I don't have near encyclopedic knowledge of the franchise) It Just Works
i have encyclopaedic knowledge over the franchise (read and studies every book and game and comic and even some of the merch bc this is what I do instead of the franchise) and apart from the smallest of hiccups (basically one or two that I can right now tell) it works
@@GollyGoshGale my problem with michael being vengeful spirit is that scott described vengeful spirit's voice as a young boy/girl, surely mike is a grown up at that point, and also if william is screaming for henry and mike to help, why would he ask mike to help if mike is the one keeping him there, he would say please or something like that
@@assadarlingtoni the first one i personally havent heard much about so ill have to do my own research and also william screaming for help probably just was him screaming for someone to help him and the only people who were there and the only people who he could reconginise wouldve been henry and mike both of whom who, when he last checked, both were under his control (mike going to sister location to help him w/ elizabeth and henry having helped him with the franchise and taken the fall for him when he got arrested, also william would never had known anything about henry hating him due to this being the first time he had seen him since the arrest and so he mightve just been stupidly hopeful at a chance to be saved) also im sorry for the yapping also the first one may possibly be answered by saying that mike had become vengeful when he was young but had supressed it and caused it to build until it took place of him being able to possess himself so it may have been that he was vengeful as a child like scott said but was only able to take out thos vengeful acts when he had grown up edit bc i realised more info: mike and henry wouldve been the only recognisable people and although mike was literally rotting he wasnt inside a suit and also henry was just a normal human and so he mightve called out to the specifically because they were the only recognisable people/things he could interpret and also the vengeful spirit voice being a child may also be when he was a child but also he mightve possible found out something along the lines of what happened to cassidy and wouldve been mad at that and, like i said before, the built up of anger from childhood abuse and neglect where he first became vengeful leading to him being able to stay alive for so long
@@assadarlingtoni they explained that Michael was presented as the young abused and nieve son he was to will. Kinda shows he’s not that same person anymore but will torment William as the nieve and easy to manipulate child.
the fucking whiplash of FINALLY understanding the box and the grave in midnight motorist and then seeing judy fucking hopps killed me and now you two have to pay for my funeral
- show up - claim they solved FNAF - drop a masterpiece of a video - elaborate - leave I hope to see more of this type of content!! This was a great time
y'know? i was skeptical. i was SO goddamn skeptical. i cannot FUCKING believe you have convinced me nearly wholeheartedly that the Crying Child was named Cassidy, and the Mike was The One You Should Not Have Killed. I've been in the theory sphere of this fandom since it began, and this is actually my favorite interpretation of the springtrap-era lore i've seen. i am practically salivating for the 15-part series where Grampat himself gives his opinions on it.
Can't believe this channel came out of nowhere and just logged the entire theorist community. Gotta say I haven't enjoyed a theory this much in a long time and it all feels satisfying narratively.
One thing that could explain Henry being let out of jail is actually the time frame. A lot of cases in the late 90s and early 2000s were reviewed and a lot of people that were falsely imprisoned were released due to the advent of DNA technology. Henry's case could've been reviewed and combined with the fact that murders continued after he was imprisoned and Afton's shady behavior and his entire family disappearing...
I like this a lot. Adding to it Henry could very well have made the argument that 1. the evidence that it was him came down to security camera footage (80's security camera footage at that) and 2. clearly he wasn't the only one who knew how to operate a springlock suit. They had and must have trained other employees, it could have been any former employee.
@@James-zj3pm it's possible. Matpat has an infuritating habit of making up shit on the spot to support his theory and presenting it as solid fact. Makes his videos very hard to enjoy
This is *BY FAR* the most narratively satisfying interpretation/theory of the FNAF Afton storyline I've seen so far. There will always be flaws in any FNAF theory just because it's clear that Scott didn't plan the entire thing from the start and fixed things along the way, so there are plotholes here and there. But this is unquestionably the theory that has less holes but most importantly, again, the roles of the characters makes so much more sense than any other theory I've seen so far. If this is not the canon story, it really should be. Congratulations to you both, this was *awesome* .
Another thing I noticed! In UCN (Ultimate custom night) circus baby (or scrap baby, I can't remember exactly) says "you won't die, but you'll wish you could." This line is extremely similar to one of the endings of the sister location, where circus baby says "you won't die". And If we're going by the idea that the vengeful spirit is talking through the animatronics, it can't be Cassidy or any of the missing children, because they never heard her say that, Michael did.
@@CalimarisArtisticRageNope, you’re not mistaken, it’s the ending of the cutscenes on Sister Location’s Custom night. (When you finish the hardest difficulties of every challenge minus Golden Freddy mode [on Golden Freddy mode you get the Michael monologue, which is my favorite cutscene of the whole saga, making fnaf Sister Location Custom Night my favorite game])
Something I hadn’t thought about until now. Michael has to be the Vengeful Spirit because he’s the ONLY PERSON who knows what it’s like to be a Freddy’s security guard!!! None of the other candidates would know what it’s like to sit in the FNAF offices until 6 am, fighting off animatronics. 🤯
@@bluestar_kun I thought to point out that childhood trauma in rare instances can give the person an indefinite child voice. Said voice can only be rid with therapy. Perhaps this is some version of that, eh? Normal human voice, traumatised spirit voice
Having Cassidy not only being the Crying Child but also what's inside the infamous box completely changes everything you know about FNAF. No wonder Scott never wanted to reveal what was inside it!
This genuinely is probably the most comprehensive theory I've heard in a very long time, and it's not conviluted. It ignores details that feel irrelevant but also acknowledge other clues that could point to something else. Honeslty, this is my new interpretation of the FNAF lore and 100% will be influencing my fanart. God damn I loved this I cannot wait for more
My favorite part of Micheal being "the one he shouldnt have killed" is that it really makes sense for him to be experiencing the security guard deaths that Micheal could have experienced.
@algsunshine7075 We know that he died to the scooper. Which as far as I'm aware isn't in UCN for William to experience. It's also unlikely that Micheal was stuffed in any of the suits like phone guy was but I guess not impossible.
I'm impressed, the clickbait genuinely didn't lie. This feels more complete and satisfying than what the mainstream theory is. Also the idea for steel wool game protagonists to be references to the fandom's idea of Cassidy feels somewhat fitting. Great video essay!
People always say that the crying child has to have some reason to be scared of the animatronics, but if you ever been to Disney World you would know that children love Mickey Mouse and have all the toys, but they’re terrified when the mascot workers walk up to them. That’s just how kids act around big robots/costumes. But I do have to say, their theory with the guy bleeding out in the back room is a new one that sounds pretty interesting
@@childofapollo2187 remember what you saw, WITH a cut to william putting someone in a suit. Granted, it was an employee, but the implications are that CC witnessed his dad hide a corpse. Knowing your dad hides bodies of kids your age, in a place and with characters he knows you love, with an older brother who flat out abuses you... That seems like enough reasoning to be crying constantly
When I was a kid, my mom took me to an international book fair. There were these giant(from the kids' perspective) mascots. One of them was a hedgehog with bulging eyes. My mom saw I was very distressed around him, so she tried to hide with me in closed-off stands. But I, being a bored 5-year-old, often ran away from her. One time I ran off I found myself face in face with that hedgehog. It started walking towards me and I started crying my eyes out. So yea... Kids can be easily traumatised.
@@justaperson4656It doesn't even have to be seeing his father hide a body. Imagine seeing someone get into something that you knew could kill them, but you can't say anything because of what your family would do to you, very dark but also makes a lot of sense.
is it really just about the mascot costumes being big? i wouldnt be surprised if lots of kids are just picking up on the uncanniness of their favorite characters wearing lifeless eyes and frozen expressions, all while contrasting with the real movements of living people. not like i'm an expert on the subject though, makes me wonder how kids scared of this stuff react to mascot costumes of robot type characters, or even characters with obscured faces in general like masks and junk.
one thing i wanna add. the name “old man consequences” even just sounds like an aged henry. Decades in prison, prolly super old, blamed to reap the consequences of will’s actions. I just love that connection
Given that there was no hard evidence against Henry, including no major physical evidence and especially no bodies, it's possible he got out on appeal or some other such thing. Even a lighter sentence than one would expect. Possibly even DNA exoneration after a few decades. That was very common in the years when DNA became accepted as evidence. Many people were let go free at that time.
It's also possible that someone could have called in an exonerating hint anonymously. For instance, someone who just found out what his own father has been up to, is very angry about it, and had decades to stew on it while he awaits his chance at revenge.
I mean, he could've been exonerated when they found the dead children in the pizzeria in FNAF 2. They likely would've thought that the dci and the mci have the same culprit, and Henry was already in jail, so it couldn't have been him.
Also, it is possible that because of lack of hard evidence, Henry could only, at maximum, receive a life sentence (minimum of 25 years) or less, and at the time that Henry gets out of jail, he simply gets out because he has served his sentence in its entirety. As by the time Henry gets out, decades have passed since the MCI.
I was thinking that a good defense attorney would most likely be able to delay a death sentence by fighting to overturn it. Some death row inmates wait multiple decades for their sentences to be carried out, it gets trapped in legal hell for quite a while.
HOLY SHIT, The crying child getting SPRINGLOCKED was something I never even considered which re-contextualizes him saying IT'S ME! And the box and Henry getting arrested? Charlie getting bullied which explains why she was outside in that mini game? And Michael actually being the vengeful spirit considering all that he's been through, as well as him returning in Fnaf 3 (even though he's probably a stank ass corpse at this point) which explains the derpy ass jumpscares of that game? All tying back to Fnaf 6 and that one that shouldn't have been killed thing? and fitting in FNAF WORLD into all this?? idk how much of this is intentionally planned by Scott at this point, but I just love seeing narrative pieces getting neatly tied together. You gals be COOKIN
Scott might not have planned the first video game but all the video games after that are him expanding and trying to explain the story that he just put in as a Easter egg.
I still don’t think the one he shouldn’t have killed is an indirect death, but everything else made a lot more sense than other theories (especially the crying child Cassidy theory)
None of it was intentional, if you write vague af hints, you can make any story make sense. It's an excellent theory video, sure, but it was still build on vague Scott hints, hence why so many theories devianted from one another, not because the fanbase is dumb but because Scott intentionally made "lore hints" so vague the next game retconned the last
can someone explain how charlie died after cc? cc was alive after midnight motorist!!! charlie died first right? or if he did die first and michael escaped the house, who in the hell was the one sitting on the couch watching tv in midnight motorist???
@@blehblblehbl7535 In the theory, CC lingered in a coma--if you watch this video, Cori or Connie left a text note on screen mentioning that they did some quick research after they finished making most of the video that victims of frontal lobe damage are often sent home to recover--or, possibly in CC's case, for hospice care. So, CC was effectively braindead or at least extremely handicapped, but stable as the Aftons (and probably several nurses) looked after him. During the Missing Children Incident, William Afton clued in that the children he murdered and then stuffed into the animatronics were haunting the machines. Afton, hoping that this meant that he could essentially "fix" CC by killing the damaged body so his son could inhabit an animatronic instead, stuffed CC into Golden Freddy and killed him. When it didn't immediately work, Afton panicked, took CC's body back out, and buried him in the box in the woods. In reality, killing his body DID work, but because Afton didn't leave the body in the suit, CC couldn't figure out what had happened to him, so all he could do was retrace his way home, at which point Michael spotted Golden Freddy. Michael escaped the house then as CC tried to contact him, since Michael felt horrible and wanted to try and help his brother. The person on the couch could be Mrs Afton--perhaps she too was abused into submission by William, OR the horrible mangling of one her sons by the other son, only for her extremely handicapped son to "vanish" has left her a broken shell, unable to actually protect Michael or eventually Elizabeth. She is vaguely alluded to by the one staffbot at the "family dinner" portmanteau from Security Breach, so it's not too far fetched to think she was alive for Midnight Motorist.
everyone is commenting about the actual theory parts but i am bowing down in gratitude that this video is subtitled, with the subtitles even clarifying who is speaking, and laughing all the humor in the intro. i think i commented aloud "iconic" multiple times in just the intro. ok now i will watch the actual theory and lore-crafting :)))
The game crashing after Michael's talk with OMC could also imply him finally moving on. Since Michael is our protagonist, him dying would also cause the exquisite torture chamber that is FNAF 6 to shut down - the game crashes, because is nothing left for us to do.
Oh my god that is such a good take. I mean, what is crashing the game by diving into the lake? If it’s meant to be the Vengeful Spirit ignoring Old Man Consequences, then wouldn’t it just take you back to the start again? Instead, it’s a full crash, and the only way the cycle continues is if you choose to boot the game up again.
@@765ZackAttack I can definitely see this being true, but I suspect if it is, it's more like an opportunity for Mike to move on that he repeatedly chooses to reject, as signified by the player relaunching the game. And I think that's key, as it puts the player in Mike's position in two ways: asking themselves, "do I want to keep playing? keep torturing William?" and then exerting their will to choose one or the other. We have the same choice to make as Mike. Generally, players will be first encountering Old Man Consequences early in their playthrough of the game, so players are quick to think, "Yes I'll keep going, I'm not done". This response is somewhat dismissive of the gravity of the question, which would happen if you were hellbent on revenge, just like Mike. It's only later, after experiencing everything the game has to offer, that we might stop to think about it, and in doing so, we're again put in Mike's shoes. As time passes, Mike would eventually start to notice that this revenge wasn't healing him, and begin to question the eternity he'd chosen for himself.
I think an idea that might strengthen your theory regarding Crying Cassidy is that we only ever see hospital equipment in the context of CC's bedroom. The whole fandom has collectively agreed that this symbolically means that he is actually in a hospital bed, but we literally see in game hospital equipment in the FNAF 4 house. Maybe CC was stable enough that he didn't need to be on 24 hour watch and his condition was stable enough that he could be moved back to the Afton house as long as he was hooked up to an IV and taken care of by his family. A lot of people will be moved back to their own homes after an accident, and I think it's very possible that seeing hospital equipment in his bedroom could be taken very literally. This means that William doesn't have to smuggle Cassidy out of the hospital, he was already at home, and because he wasn't making a miraculous recovery, he decided to take him off of his equipment in his own home and be springlocked by the Golden Freddy suit instead to try and save him. Like William is even more closely monitoring Cassidy's condition because he isn't visiting him at the hospital, he is able to be with him every minute which could make him more irrational and desperate. Anyway, just food for thought.
See the thing that wouldn’t go with this is it’s suspected and might as well be confirmed he died in the hospital during the coma, the evidence being the flat line Scott put out.
After thinking about it for a while, I think CC was only ever comatose in his room, that he was never even admitted to a hospital. The bite happened in a building that William either owned or operated, when the only people there were children and his employees. It could have easily been covered up to save face for the company. That would also explain why police would see CC's disappearance being related to the MCI, since it would happen in the same place as the rest.
@@cynder316 I don’t really think that made sense since the staff would of called the police, worried for the boy. Heck the tormentors probably did scared for his life. So it more possible for him to be admitted to the hospital in a coma later to die then him to be at home, also since he fell in to a coma they aren’t allowed to actually take him out of the hospital still he actually wakes up which he didn’t. The proof he dined in the hospital was the flat line Scott gave. Also to add Henry wouldn’t just allow William to take the boy home since he also owns the company/ operates, and since they own it together it’s no stopping him from calling the police after finding out being worried for his nephew.
@@Cloudy-Chan2 I'm saying William used his authority over the staff to manipulate them into silence. The other masked kids might not want to admit what happened either, and probably wouldn't be believed without adults to back them up. I agree that Henry would not have let this slide, but I never meant to imply that he knew about this. Will got away with literal murder in that building, so it's not much of a stretch to think he could hide the bite from his partner as well. Also, out of all the wild things William was able to get his hands on, a heart monitor doesn't seem like much to me.
@@cynder316 why would William waste the time or effort on his children other then for experiments right, he wouldn’t waste that type of money, and its most likely cc died even quicker without the proper medical attention. Also Cassidy nigh be the the byte victim name but there no saying that the victim possessing golden Freddy and Bite victim are one in the same. Also even if BV just disappeared there were multiple witnesses children where there parents, what’s saying the police wouldn’t question them. It’s more easy to say the police were called then they weren’t. To add beside the party it was a public building and other kids and parents were there.
Michael being The One You Shouldn't Have Killed™ would also explain the one thing that has always confused me about UCN: Why does Rockstar Foxy help the player? Michael is obviously very associated and sometimes even represented by Foxy. If we assume this is also the case here, Rockstar Foxys behavior makes a lot more sense. Just as Michael has helped his father in life, Rockstar Foxy helps him in death. This could be because old habits like these are very hard to fully let go of, especially when they were created to survive abuse. Or it could be just another lesson for William. Yes, Foxy helps the player, but rely on him too much to fix problems you created for yourself (low power, high heat, etc. in UCN, stuff like the Funtimes being ready to kill William in SL) and he will quickly end your run. Just another parallel to Michael deciding to stop his father after he sent him on one job too many. "You play with fire, and sometimes you get burned." (Sorry if this thought isn't worded very well lol)
Michael being the vengeful spirit feels WAY more thematically satisfying to me as "the one you shouldn't have killed". Also my headcannon for the shadows is that they were the 2 springlock failures the fnaf 3 tapes talked about.
@ErrorNumber404 basically whenever a bad event happens, agony is formed, this can cause agony beings to form, which are the shadows, what they are from is a different debate
As soon as you justified the box's existence, I was 100% locked in, and, yeah, I think you two did it. I think you made something beautiful of this mess of a narrative. This is my favorite interpretation yet. Kudos, ladies.
@@purplfish6248 its definitely not CC's body. Unless you want to spin it somehow into CC's body being the missing piece from him finding peace in the afterlife. Piece? Peace? .....interesting connection now that I'm thinking about it.
Have to admit I was immediately super skeptical when you dropped the Michael-vengeful-spirit-Afton bomb, but once you started putting all the pieces together its like something clicked in my brain finally after years of watching theory videos and feeling something was always slightly off when it came to cc/cassidy/vengeful spirit stuff. Also the theory about the box. holy shit yall. I don't think I've ever watched a theory video that's strung so many loose threads together so neatly, this has definitely become my favourite fnaf timeline/story theory
Something y’all said about the Golden Freddy suit sitting in the back room really struck a chord with me. He’s just like back then: locked in a backroom, alone, and utterly helpless.
That really shocked me and the fact that his body was left and forgotten in a chest in the woods made me feel even more anguished. Poor boy he didn't deserve such a horrible fate.
I really like the idea that the vengeful spirit is Michael, an adult. The whole "one you should not have killed" always sounded like Scott was so focused on sounding 'dark' and 'edgy' that he forgot he was talking about a literal child. Like you said, what makes this one kid so special? All of them are vengeful but the idea that one of them is such a threat that they earn the "should not have killed" label? It didn't sound right for this series. However, an adult, who can comprehend all of Williams's actions and has been his victim for many years? Now that is gonna create a vengeful spirit who William should've been more wary of.
@@hotdogprincess Would be cool if we had any proof of that in game too, that just head canon. We don't know what William intention where after sending Mike to the bunker in Sister location. Especially when the man is known to experiment with souls and possession, If he wanted to kill Mike, he would have done so long time ago, or just in Sister location to experiment on him. To me it more likely he just send mike to ''put back together'' his sister, knowing the animatronic would react badly to himself, he send Mike.
I think this might be my new favourite FNAF theory. It makes just as much if not more sense than the mainstream interpretation, and it's a real breath of fresh air for the theorizing community.
its Cassidy(Crying Child) the one torturing william afton, forever, but he isn't the only one together in this insanity,Elizabeth(Nightmarionne) is together, she is demon that wiliiam have created the william did succeed in making robots kid, he rebuild the crying child, just to broken him by machines again and again,elizabeth was discarded like was nothing, because she was baby AI level of intelligence, but she became smarted to point, nothing can stop her Circus Baby is the biggest lie in fnaf, she isn't evil, she just pretending to be, her goals are aligned to charlie, she is twisted Charlie Lefty UCN-Voiceline
"Shhhh...I'm so glad that I found you, let me make room for you." Circus Baby AR-Voiceline "I am so glad that I found you...let me find room for you...inside..." its the same being talking
@@cawareyoudoin7379 uhm, i spend enormous amount time thinking, of what going in security breach, but every time, there something wrong, or missing let me explain, how everything tie up in the trilogy of fnaf, its never explain or show where is 2th charliebot, but its explain the she is a robot that want love of her father who in this fanchise was character that want her father loves? Elizabeth, she was 2th Charliebot 1th was made when henry loses her,is the ella doll using ilusion disk becames 1th charlie bot 2th was made when henry missing his daugther, but is never specific show where in trilogy, until take every event,see was elizabeth 3th was made when henry accept he go mad 4th was made when henry angry at everything in trilogy circus baby tells john, she was the charlie he did meet when they are kids, she was not lying, teenager charlie remembers golden freddy, but john and her friends remembers brown freddy, this show charlie already is dead before meeting john or her friends, so they must be befriend a robotic version of her elizabeth she tries became ella doll appearance, not circus baby, that why she could tell calton was lying to her, she was the one calton was friends are kids do you know circus baby in fnaf 6 was acting very strange? “It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?” “It feels like home...” “You don't really know who your employer is...do you?”-she know the one behind is henry fnaf 6 was making her remember her birthday, charlie birthday, she has memories of charlie, in the final dialogue of fnaf 6, read her dialogue, now the person she is referring as daddy is henry,its going make more sense “You played right into our hands, did you really think that this job just fell out of the sky for you? No. This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to. All of those little souls, in one place, just for us, a gift. Now we can do what we were created to do, and be complete! I will make you proud daddy! Watch, listen, and be full.” she come there frist to find william to cut him into pieces, but found instead a gift for us(she is refering to herself and the puppet), she is very aware what is going on, what mike job is, she is happy that you collect all these pieces in one place, now she can finnaly do what she was made for she was not talking killing kids, but putting all the pieces of ghost kids back together, she was unable because william scattered them everywhere, but contractor(henry) and mike did collect all them in one place, so this whole thing is a gift for her and the puppet in trilogy the one trapped her was henry, so after escaping she goes to william in gametimeline, the one trapped her was william, so she goes to henry Charlie remnant was possesing both the Puppet and Circus Baby at the same time, that why she is aware of everything its like story of sussie come home, where chica does existed together with susie bring her to home and back but in case of charlie, its both the puppet and circus baby at her side Final Dialogue of fnaf 6, was not about circus baby and henry But was final dialogue of Charlie and Henry after so long the old man consequence is Henry, now he together with Charlie, and her two Guardians Circus Baby is a twisted version, in fazbear frigths the puppet and circus baby acts together to downfall of william afton
@@cawareyoudoin7379 uhm, i spend enormous amount time thinking, of what going in security breach, but every time, there something wrong, or missing let me explain, how everything tie up in the trilogy of fnaf, its never explain or show where is 2th charliebot, but its explain the she is a robot that want love of her father who in this fanchise was character that want her father loves? Elizabeth, she was 2th Charliebot 1th was made when henry loses her,is the ella doll using ilusion disk becames 1th charlie bot 2th was made when henry missing his daugther, but is never specific show where in trilogy, until take every event,see was elizabeth 3th was made when henry accept he go mad 4th was made when henry angry at everything in trilogy circus baby tells john, she was the charlie he did meet when they are kids, she was not lying, teenager charlie remembers golden freddy, but john and her friends remembers brown freddy, this show charlie already is dead before meeting john or her friends, so they must be befriend a robotic version of her elizabeth she tries became ella doll appearance, not circus baby, that why she could tell calton was lying to her, she was the one calton was friends are kids do you know circus baby in fnaf 6 was acting very strange? “It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?” “It feels like home...” “You don't really know who your employer is...do you?”-she know the one behind is henry fnaf 6 was making her remember her birthday, charlie birthday, she has memories of charlie, in the final dialogue of fnaf 6, read her dialogue, now the person she is referring as daddy is henry,its going make more sense “You played right into our hands, did you really think that this job just fell out of the sky for you? No. This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to. All of those little souls, in one place, just for us, a gift. Now we can do what we were created to do, and be complete! I will make you proud daddy! Watch, listen, and be full.” she come there frist to find william to cut him into pieces, but found instead a gift for us(she is refering to herself and the puppet), she is very aware what is going on, what mike job is, she is happy that you collect all these pieces in one place, now she can finnaly do what she was made for she was not talking killing kids, but putting all the pieces of ghost kids back together, she was unable because william scattered them everywhere, but contractor(henry) and mike did collect all them in one place, so this whole thing is a gift for her and the puppet in trilogy the one trapped her was henry, so after escaping she goes to william in gametimeline, the one trapped her was william, so she goes to henry Charlie remnant was possesing both the Puppet and Circus Baby at the same time, that why she is aware of everything
its like story of sussie come home, where chica does existed together with susie bring her to home and back but in case of charlie, its both the puppet and circus baby at her side Final Dialogue of fnaf 6, was not about circus baby and henry But was final dialogue of Charlie and Henry after so long the old man consequence is Henry, now he together with Charlie, and her two Guardians Circus Baby is a twisted version, in fazbear frigths the puppet and circus baby acts together to downfall of william afton
@darkpain2452 Intresting idea, but something that would need to be stated for it is that Elizabeth is the correct name, not Charlie. Henry uses the name Elizabeth not the name Charlie in that very cutscene. There also is the issue of the differing deaths or how Elizabeth possessed the robot that later possessed Circus Baby. We also know Scrap baby burned in Fnaf 6. We do not have that conformation for Lefty/the puppet. So that throws a monkey wrench into the they would be merged again theory.
i honestly don't mind if this is wrong, the characterization of michael is absolutely Brutal and so so fun from a writing perspective. makes it feel like this character was cared about
Idk there is a lot of stretches, cannot convince me the sl night 4 suit is golden Freddy when it has clearly defined lines and a *full* smile with no jaw unlike golden Freddy who does
@@Scp2099goneby Why would it be altered with faceplates, not to mention the whole structure of the suit? There is 0 evidence for a reason why that would happen
@@coldshock5181There is 0 evidence for anything, dude was coming up with the lore as he went along. And who else would it be, a suit that fits an adult male? Just let the lore be solved it's not real life, its about time this lore is solved.
2:09:50 oh my god it’s the box. That makes so much sense! Cassidy’s body was put in the box and buried in the woods where we see in ‘later that night’ and the spot in the woods in fnaf world is that grave. That’s why that sprite of an open fnaf 4 box was found in fnaf world’s files! Narratively that makes so much sense, I love that take.
HOLY SHIT WAIT I THOUGHT OF SOMETHING Fnaf World narratively is Charlie giving Michael hints for Charlie to get all of the pieces in place for the happiest day when the souls finally move on. Cassidy’s the hardest to make move on due to his “situation”. Why is the opened box in Fnaf World present? Because after 40 years, Charlie finally found the box, opened it and allowed Cassidy to see his body so he could move on 🥹 FUCK this theory is still tying things together even months after hearing it, so so good
Honestly, I really hope the Game Theory team sees this. It's a bit hard to follow in places, but most things eventually click, and it has the major benefit of tossing out common assumptions and looking for completely new interpretations that might fit better, which is something that definitely needs to be done with this franchise since the common assumptions don't all fit together. You guys may be new to this, but while this video is rough around the edges, it needs to be seen by all the big FNaF theorists, if not because it's correct, then at least because it takes things from a new angle. It made things fit better than the current common understandings of the story do, at least, and that's just really satisfying. Well wrought!
@@natalielouise23 Yeah…that's my main misgiving about trying to send this over to GTLive, honestly, the way MatPat takes an hour to review five minutes…and most of it's him babbling about whatever unrelated stuff popped into his head until he's completely forgotten what's just been said in the video…SIGH…
@@Wandergirl108 it's more annoying when he spends five minutes trying explain and question something when if he'd just keep watching it got answered right after he paused it
The way my jaw FUCKING DROPPED when you said Michael was the one he should not have killed. I really hope that's cannon because it would be such a cool twist
@@Hileavemealone Oooh!!!! I love that idea!!! Plus if Michael tortures William using his childhood face, the one he wore during the bite and when he saw his dad go of the rails, the effect on William would be far greater than if he used his adult face that his dad never saw as anything more than a means to achieving his goals.
The part about Henry being convicted and imprisoned makes so much sense, he would get time in prison for evidence but no bodies, without bodies you can’t argue a death penalty and you can’t argue life in prison because they’re *missing* not murdered and found dead. So it makes sense that Henry gets a rough 30 years and is let out.
Then there's the fact Michael would know everything by now, would be able to get the authorities onto the remaining stuff, and it becomes clear William was the one who did it all, not Henry.
@Drave_Jr. And by the time Henry can reasonably argue this to anyone willing to listen, William is already missing along with most of his own family. The justice system doesn't have anyone else to question and they already have a conviction, justice to the state has been served. Henry gets out and makes his moves to take the remnants of Freddie's and turn it into the trap that was FNAF 6
I've been very... disillusioned with the franchise lately, feeling that the story had gotten to a place where it was so convoluted and incomprehensible that it had lost the impact, the emotion it once evoked. Now, I feel like it's 2016 again. Thank you.
You know that one clip from Ratatouille where Skinner is reading the letter and his eyes slowly widens in absolute shock as he reads on? Yeah that’s me throughout this whole video. Just… wow.
when you dropped cassidy crying child bomb, I was FLOORED and everything just kept making more and more sense. ruin cassie being named after Cassidy afton gave me GOOSEBUMPS. thank you for the amazing theory and bringing me back to that childhood nostalgia of watching fnaf theories. can’t wait for more!
Maybe sue the state for a wrongful conviction and the sloppy work on Charlotte's case and now there's some disposable income to, say, build a pizzeria?
@@Phantom86dmaybe Henry don't have to do that one. because it would've been a hell of a hot (and furates) news to the public that the culprit of children death is actually innocent and justice system is shithole enough to let this happen. I bet the official don't want to led these thing go wide spread. or he could do/get both and profit?
I love the narrative interpretation that’s given to Micheal, it makes so much more sense that the one to hold William accountable, the one to hold him inside this hellhole forever is the one son of his who he tormented the longest. The one who tried doing everything to make him proud and eventually tried freeing his siblings but was killed in the process, to come back and completely ruin everything for him, and withhold him in his own personal hellhole, its an amazing interpretation of this plot
the way yall solved the box like it was nothing was probably the most shocking part of this theory to me, i was NOT expecting that bombshell to just be dropped like that. what was arguably one of the most infamous mysteries in the fnaf storyline, the center of countless discussions and arguments, one with like 4 billion different proposed solutions was mentioned a grand total of two times in a way that managed to make perfect sense, and they just moved on. this is probably the biggest flex in the history of theorycrafting
I mean it's an interesting idea but it's in no way "solved" I love this video but nothing in it really "confirmed" or "solved" anything. Like most fnaf theories, it's an interesting take, but no reason to believe it any more than matpats timeline video.
@@fohb7291this theory establishes facts based off of canon - you'll notice throughout the video they sprinkle in solid evidence to accurately support all their claims. the reason there's so much storytelling and a lot less evidence is because they build the timeline based off the already present evidence. the box containing Cassidy's remains feels like it's just speculation without evidence, but if you take into the account the story that was being told up until that point (which was supported adequately with evidence), the box theory is suddenly a lot more credible. unless scott makes a statement agreeing with every single piece of content in this video, it's all just speculation. that's how it is with all fnaf theories. the difference between matpat's timeline and this video is that matpat's video relies on you watching past theories to understand the timeline, while this video incorporates all it's evidence and theories into the timeline in one place.
@@fohb7291 Fnaf will never be solved because these are just theories. Like scientific theories, they don't prove anything 100% because nothing can be absolutely proved unless God or whatever comes down the sky and says "Einstein was right" or something. However, in science a theory is the highest point a hypothesis can reach, and the same thing happens with FNAF. All that matters is who's theories are more accepted and have the most supporting evidence.
I can just imagine ghost Michael going 'Hmm, what one of these awful creations should I send to torture that greaseball today? Maybe I'll pick just the Fredbear suit and taunt a Deathcoin in his face just to remind him.'
Other than being mostly iron clad and narratively satisfying, I think this theory is so good because it kinda puts the horror back into FNAF. Cassidy getting springlocked in his coma, that scene being the UCN stinger, Michael getting shoved into the Fredbear endoskeleton just like his brother, his general plotline in this story, I think it finally feels haunting like it did when I was younger. I dunno.
YEAH!! Like, a lot of other FNAF timelines just try to fit the pieces together in any way possible, and it ends up a bit of a confusing mess. But this theory? It aims to fit the pieces together in a way that A) makes sense, and B) is actually satisfying and works as a story. The idea of SL Night 4 being _Mike in the fucking Golden Freddy suit_ is fucking horrific in so many ways. It's just great.
Yeah, i think that this theory prioritized a genuinely interesting and horrifying story over everything else (not saying it's factually inaccurate, but it obviously does have holes since Scott definitely didn't intend for this, he didn't plan SHIT lol)
@@joyflameballI don’t think it’s satisfying because 1. I hate the idea of Cassidy and the crying child being the same person and not separate ghosts sharing the same body. 2. The fun time and toy animatronics all being possessed by the MCI children. 3. Agony being a thing. 4. SL taking place after FNAF 2. 5. Henry getting sent to prison and then somehow getting out despite several life sentences.
@@demetriam2408It wasn’t that genuinely interesting or horrifying really it would’ve been if there were way more children possessing like Cassidy being another character possessing GF alongside the crying child.
the major point number two literally made me GASP. i usually do not watch fnaf theory videos anymore because people claim they have solved it, and the drop 3 hours of worthless info that is either 1. already widely known or 2. easily debunked, but WOW. as someone who is a longtime fnaf fan this is the first theory video to shock me to my core, yet make the series feel so close to complete. i started watching it with matpats commentary, but had to stop and watch it for myself. i feel as though matpat really missed the mark on his commentary, and was often confusing himself or not allowing space for his already "set in stone" theories to change. this was a wonderful video, full of old information tied into new theories with examples and supporting information that actually make sense and isnt just jumping the gun with loose ties. im not even fully done with the video, but after the point two drop i HAD to comment. p.s. the solving of whats in the fnaf 4 box almost brought me to happy tears. fnaf 4 has always been my favorite game to theorize about and the box's contents litterally kept me up at night.
@@Ben-zg8xk i looked long and far on reddit and other sites and havent found any concrete evidence to show that their points are wrong, just other theories and loyal theorists not allowing themselves to be wrong
@@deathcuphurts468 ok so cassidy being BV is completely wrong, they only came to that conclusion because they left out evidence. Altered is not responding to the fadeds question with ''it's me, Cassidy'', he says it's me, then responds with ''who are you'' and ''what is your name'', two things altered says in the word search that they conveniently leave out. the letters for cassidy aren't even found in altered text. Altered asks for fadeds name to which faded responds with cassidy. Also the entire book sets up the mystery of fadeds name, not altereds
Imma take it a step further and say the decision to "let go" in that moment or keep going and tormenting William longer could even be directly represented by the player's decision to either boot up the game again and keep going another night, or stop playing for the time being and move on to something else! (in a similar fashion to Undertale)
@@SamMaddie2And, maybe the game crashing (which is the game closing itself) Could mean Old Man Consequences actually forcing you to an extent to let go, giving Michael the choice to finally stay at peace and let go or reboot the game and keep the hell he created. In the end it’s Michael’s choice, though he gets a taste of what peace would feel like for the second the game crashes.
dude i have been a hardcore fan since like 2017 and never thought abt the fact that there's literally evidence that fanon cassidy doesn't even exist... u guys totally sold me on this, this is legit the most sensical fnaf lore theory ive ever watched
From the start, we had always been told there were five children missing in the same incident, of course its hard to suddenly realize the last one didnt actually exist and was actually the crying child this entire time, who had been shoved into the mci by william. It kinda does leave out the question of whos the alligator mask kid in happiest day though.
honestly, the sped-up audio of William screaming for help from Henry and Mike never sounded like that to me. It always just sounds like William angrily screaming Micheal's name, expecting for Micheal to simply give up and come running to his father's call, like he always did before. William, even now in his eternal torment, still believes he holds control over Micheal and still believes that if he just screams loud and angrily enough that Micheal will just listen and obey once more, showing additionally how far removed from reality William really is.
Then you need to get you ears checked I usually have a tough time hearing those kinds of things and even to me it sounds like William is screaming "Henry! Mike! Help! Mike! Help!" and yes he does sound angry but also like he's in pain. Which also brings up my point of there's no way Micheal is the vengeful spirit since it doesn't fit with his character and why would William being calling out to Micheal for help if Micheal is the one tormenting him
@adambump5297 I actively said why he would call on Micheal still? And personally I can't hear anything other than Micheal unless William is unnecessarily adding a kick to the end of every scream. I'll give "Henry" credence as the first scream, but again it ends with a weird kick at the end before the next scream begins and I can't think of any explanation otherwise. Not like William would have a fucked up voice box, it's his soul now. Although the unnecessary aggressiveness and superiority complex was definitely appreciated
Cassidy being CC makes so much sense it nearly sent ME into a coma. OF COURSE it's altered's name, it's the conclusion to the character arc the logbook sets up for him about remembering who he is.
@@WinterPainsIt was people trying to use the same puzzle they used to find Cassidy's name to find CC's name, but only 3 of the 4 letters even fit with the method they used to find it. It just doesn't make sense.
This is it. I don't care what Scott or Steel Wool or the novels say, what canon becomes, what recons happen. This is MY fnaf. This is the reality I choose. Good fucking job, you two. This shit is gas.
Somebody get this shit to Scott, there is no way they aren’t the closest to being right we have ever seen. I have never even heard of the CCassidy theory or the Vengeful Michael theory, and I was super skeptical when you brought them up. By the end of the video though, you had me absolutely sold on both, and I think more FNAF fans certainly have to watch this video. Edit: Also goddamn, this channel has gained 500 subs since I started the video, y’all deserve tf out of it. I can’t wait to see your theories on the Steel Wool era, that part of lore has always been a bit harder for me to keep up with.
CCassidy is occasionally mentioned in the theory community, the theory being called “CassidyVictim” but it’s not really considered valid for a couple of reasons (most notably the logbook which pretty clearly separates the two with there even being a gravestone with faded putting “MY NAME” on it pretty clearly linking the name to the last gravestone at the end of FNAF 6, as well as the fact that there’s no way for CC to go missing given we know by the flatline at the end he dies in the hospital, there’s no reason why he would be linked to the MCI event at the pizzeria, which at this point seems to occur in 1985)
@@cools-mc-fools Sure, but what’s more likely? CC surviving his entire head being crushed and leaving the hospital or that he died? Given this is FNAF we’re talking about as well as the way the ending cutscene plays out, I’m willing to bet he simply died.
Your Michael is Vengeful Spirit is such a good theory, love how you guys broke it down with the voicelines! I checked out UCN voicelines myself too and I think these lines also indicate Michael as the spirirt, "I am the Fearfull Reflection of what you created." and "Ihave always been hiding in your shadow." William always controlled him and Michael lived in his shadow, the brilliant scary father.
That only makes sense if you arbitrarily assign certain lines to Michael with no rhyme or reason. Nightmare Freddy says that line, and also says "I am remade, but not by you, by the one you should not have killed". So why is N. Freddy referring to himself in one line, but in another, it's supposedly Michael speaking through him? There is no reason, just randomly assigned meaning.
I've always felt like the fandom wasn't quite onto what was happening there were too many loose ends, this nicely ties up pretty well all of them. I really like this, because you went in with the mindset of hey, almost nothing we think we know is cannon so lets go back to what the games gives us and not build off of what other people think is cannon.
Oh my goodness, this feels like the first time ever a FNAF theory video with a title including "solved" that actually solved something. I don't care if this is the correct interpretation of the story and lore or not, it's the best researched and reasoned, the most cohesive and definitely the most satisfying timeline I have ever heard. And on top of that I didn't even notice time flying by, I loved the visuals, loved your personalities and how you presented all of it, kudos to you and I am left yarning for more. Incredible work.
Yeah I don’t know if I totally bought the timeline, but I’m fully sold on Cassidy being the crying child and Micheal being “the one you should not have killed”.
I don't personally consider FNAF "solveable", because I don't think Scott ever had a full plan for the series (which is understandable for many reasons) and I don't think he even knows what's up. That said, however: this was a really awesome and enjoyable theory because it's the first FNAF theory I've seen in awhile that truly brings NEW stuff to the table. That rearranges the puzzle pieces in a unique shape and works really hard to make it make sense. Really incredible job!
I personally believe that Scott Cawthon was making the entire story up as he went without much thought. In Phisnom and Pastra's FNAF lore brainrot stream they did a good job at assessing what the story was theorized to be after each game and how wildly it changed each time. How the story was already supposed to end like 3 times now, but kept going because people liked the games and wanted more. I don't really mind it if not everything fits with a theory. Clearly the game itself doesn't care about being consistent. What matters to me is that it's narratively satisfying, which you two have achieved with flying colors. Good job on your first video! I had a lot of fun watching it.
actually so real, this video satisfies the mess that was years of watching fnaf vids as a kid. i know nothing about modern fnaf stuff despite trying to keep up but this video just makes so much sense 😭 dont have to wait and wonder anymore, im checking out
Why does this piss me off so much? You and the people who replied with the same sentiment. This video wasn't that satisfying. It doesn't deserve to elicit this in you. That's just me though. Do whatever you want. It's none of my business. Don't let my weird misplaced feelings stop you. In fact, feel free to ignore this reply entirely!
@@--CHARLIE-- then why reply? idk the story as-is sucks writing-wise, but it’s interesting enough that i still watch videos abt it. me personally, fnaf had so much potential to be an effective horror story if scott had only put a modicum more thought into it as he went. it’s a lot of lost potential w rly good bones, and that’s always been rly frustrating as a writer in a v unique way im just happy somebody made a dish out of the all spaghetti he threw at the wall for so long.
god, the fact that this is 2 hours and 10 minutes long, and there's still stuff you decided not to go on a tangent about. the amount of confidence in your conclusions and being able to back it all up. solving shit in a way that ACTUALLY sounds super close to canon without any real major leaps. you manage to back EVERYTHING up. and this is your FIRST VIDEO. i subscribed and have the bell on. i am obsessed and cannot WAIT to hear more of your thoughts on the franchise. i reacted to this video like a football dad reacts to the Superbowl. on multiple different occasions. i can't praise this video enough. hell, even with it's length - perfect pacing. masterful editing. just.. wow. i am BLOWN away.
I absolutely love this whole theory. I was a bit apprehensive about Crying Cassidy at first, since it sounded like another contrivance and God knows we don't need anymore plottwists in FNaF, but honestly?, as the video went on I found that this is way more narratively satisfying than Cassidy being a random fifth kid. I actually really like this theory! This is a great video, I hope it takes off
How did y’all manage to make ALL of pre-steelwool fnaf make sense to such a degree while also making the biggest plot twists ever, and then making those plot twists sound like they should have been just as obvious as the most common of knowledge. Imo single best fnaf theory UA-camr and you’ve only made one video. What a feat. Also I believe the shadow animatronics are representation of the other people that died in spring lock failures.
Same for me. It is now pretty obvious that the shadow animatronics are just the workers souls that got killed in the suits but since they weren't explicitly killed they didn't hold as much vengeance
Wow. If CC really is Cassidy, this is a really good red herring. The name is traditionally feminine for Americans, but unisex in britain, and since the Aftons sound British, it's phenomenal
the box being "the peices put back 2gether" is beyond horror & i will b dissapointed if that isnt canon 2 the main continuity. so terrifyingly, perfectly poetic. genuinely creepiest thing in the game continuity if it were real.
I genuinely forgot that Scott said that inside the box was "the pieces put together" and Psychic Friend Fredbear (Afton) _literally_ says he's going to "put you back together". It works on multiple levels: it's the pieces of CC (Cassidy) put together, and if the fans found out, it's the pieces of the story put together (Cassidy was a fake MCI victim), linking the seemingly isolated story of 4 back to the first three games.
I’ll be honest, the idea of the crying child being Cassidy and Michael being the vengeful spirit makes a lot more sense than some random kid called Cassidy that we never heard of until the logbook. I think people might’ve been in a rush to solve golden Freddy when the logbook and Pizza sim came out and just assumed it was some random kid. Also the editing in this video is gold
@@SubZero-hs9xc Crying Child = Golden Freddy cause thats the suit he was killed in. Security Log Book solves the question of Golden Freddy's name. i dont see how hard that is a connection to draw?
I was not very onboard about Michael being the Vengeful Spirit until you pointed out the “I am very real” of the nightmare animatronics and that convinced me so much, like I don’t know what else those lines could mean
having watched this when it dropped and a majority of it being head cannon now i can say watching fnafs biggest theorists digest this theory has been one of the most disappointing and frustrating moments ive had on a fnaf theory. every single thing in this video is explained and elaborated on perfectly and every theorist is just like well… no bc xyz instead of watching the video and keeping all of the perspectives linked to 1 whole theory. you guys did PHENOMENAL
Especially matpat, I was watching back on the lives and he was making it so convulted and messy with his tangents instead of just watching it. I think that Dual Process Theory explained it incredibly well in full
This theory is NOT perfectly worked out. I'm not saying it's a bad theory, I personally love it but it's not perfect. I'm not going to explain all the points that are wrong, even things that Matpat didn't mention, if you knew enough about the lore and/or read the books you would realize that assuming that William murdered only 4 children is quite unfounded when it is mentioned again and again in all the books and games that there were 5 missing children. Not to mention the continuity errors in the timeline, it is much more plausible to assume that sister location occurred after fnanf 4 and before fnaf 2 and that is the reason why Michel has "bad odor"
@@alejocardenas3773 i agree it isnt perfect and at the end of the day only you can choose whats narratively satisfying. but as an entire story/solution to fnaf as a whole this is one of the most satisfying theories. (referencing timeline theories as a whole) i kinda cleaned some things up from this theory that make more sense from a game only perspective in my head but you cant get everything right.
1:44:38 i also think this part can be read as “they didn’t recognize me at first- but then, they thought i was you”. not as two separate thoughts, but michael calling out his father’s purposeful use of michael as a stand in for himself. like: they didn’t recognize me at first, but, well, we both know they thought i was you.
Also the “they thought I was you” part feels like it has a tone of realisation, and almost shock. Like Michael is just now realising his father’s intentions to send him down there as sacrifice to save his own ass.
honestly i love this version so much more, narrative-wise. the vengeful spirit being michael instead of some random kid just fits way better imo. amazing video.
@@THE_END.ヽIt's really not that much of a difference, William and Michael never really possessed anything because they weren't dead, William's heartbeat can be heard in FFPS and he's noted many times to have just fused with the suit, Michael on the otherhand would have died because of remnant and his fatal body condition if it wasn't for Elizabeth giving a part of herself to him to keep him alive, speaking of Elizabeth, Elizabeth was practically shattered amongst the funtimes and only really got to possess baby as Ennard and Scrap baby, Mrs. Afton suicided, and BV... Possessed Fredbear "The Spirit follows the flesh, it would seem, and also the *Pain* "
@AlfaresAnas I know, I mention that because there's still many people who believe he didn't possess anything and that only the VS is inside Golden Freddy. But eihter way, what I also meant with my comment is that as part of the Afton family, he should have an important role in the story.
@@Dante02d12 i mean like theres so many voices since girls are filmig tiktoks and stuff you dont realize amongst those voices theres literally fnaf theorists
So William puts his child in a box and, not knowing what to do at the moment, buries it behind his house, until he can figure everything out. "Some things are best left forgotten, for now..." indeed.
WAIT- I have more evidence of Balloon Boy being a lure. In FNaF World, the first clock you interact with, you push a silhouette of Balloon Boy into a box, however, that box is also used for pushing a Springbonnie silhouette in as well. The idea of BB being a lure is quite convincing now. Basically, William lured the kids into the safe room, using BB.
Wait.... Isn't he made out of wood said by matpat about the Wood Carver's. There's just voicebox inside of him? If so then William just need to put Balloon Boy in one of the party rooms especially the one that is near to the parts and service. But I could understand if I'm wrong ok?
This theory explains Midnight Motorist so PERFECTLY. Cassidy Afton being dead at this point and trying to make Michael find him explains the ending with the broken window and Fredbear's footprints cleanly. As to the person watching TV, it could very well be Elizabeth who's alive at this point. And the fact it's backed up by the movie? They COOKED
Ehhhhhh idk, I still don’t like they idea of this weird orange guy being Afton. Why didn’t they just make it purple? I like the theory that this is one of the missing kids getting abducted. Following the orange guy shows us their dad is a drunk asshole, making the kid a vulnerable mark. Afton probably dressed up as Springtrap and lured the kid away to kill them. It makes sense to me more this way. If orange guy was purple guy, wouldn’t he recognize the footprints of his own machines? And within the missing children incident, it makes sense that not all the kids went missing while in Freddys. Think about it, after the first two or three, Freddys would be super sus and get investigated. Instead, I think it’s a small enough town that Afton can figure out where certain children live and lure them away from home or wherever. Anyway, just my two cents there. We can still assume that Golden Freddy/CC is trying to reach out to his brother, just maybe not in this scene.
@@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom I guess it's a matter of wether you believe more in "Later that night shows a connection to Charlie's death, so it must be Afton" and "guy is orange and not purple, so it must not be Afton". Both arguments are solid and have ways to add context to them, but I like how the theory gave the greatest context to the first I've ever heard.
I always interpreted the "multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures" line to mean multiple spring lock failures in the same suit, with each spring lock inside the suit being referred to as it's own mechanical failure which is how it would probably be described if it were to happen in reality. Also, great video!
@@ArmundJay they are referring to how in the video they theorize that two different people suffered from the spring lock failures. Basically saying it as two different suits failed within a few days of each other.
the amount of times i said “no fucking way”, “oh my fucking god”, and “holy fucking shit” while watching this is insane. this interpretation is so poetic and i love it so much
Adding a comment here because WOW ya'll have been so nice. With the majority of question/discussion comments as well this comment section has just been so incredibly kind. I expected ya'll to be mean and call us slurs or something so I want to thank you all for not only interacting with the video but saying so many kind words.
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Replying to this comment but I'm honestly really hoping for the trans Roxy thing to be brought up because its a very cool thing for a game to have... Perhaps a 2 themed video with bonnie and freddy's potential romance in the games and roxy's identity as a converted foxy? i think itd be pretty neat for a pride month video! no pressure though because some theories are more important than others
You deserve it
i think that just goes to show how incredibly well put together this video was, im usually pretty stubborn about new theories but this got me, i cant really come up with anythinng wrong with it that is based on proven fact
i think the most impressive thing about this theory, is that they were able to find a place for FUCKING BALLOON BOY, of all people
fucking balloon boy?!
And thank fuck for that. I’ve been waiting for that little goober
no fr tho 💀😭
I've literally always wondered how the heck his annoying laugh battery stealing self fits in the timeline
@@PorkSzoda fr
This theory FINALLY gave me the same “mind blown” feeling I got from watching matpat’s theories as a kid.
same… like damn this makes a TON of sense and my mind is blown
Why is Cassidy blonde in ultimate custom nights if the crying child is shown with dark hair
@@plasma7819 Bruh just make a video
@@plasma7819If i were to guess, i'd say it's the lightning making it seem like the hair is blonde, idk tho
@@leolikestodraw969 take it from a guy with dark hair, lightning does not make it appear blonde
POV: ur two cousins cornered you at the family gathering
I had cousins that were this cool and honestly, vibes
I AM THE ONE WHO EXPLAINS FNAF
I can kinda relate to this.
(I have cousins who also like FNAF.)
Hey I'll take this over the actual cousin cornering me
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She had invited me upstairs to watch a show or movie, but apparently just wanted to make out??? Virginia is wild yall
@Miss_Trillium She definitely a virgin ya lmaooo
Notice how when Michael jumps out at CC from behind the TV, he holds up two backwards fingers. This is the British version of flipping someone off. This means that in FNaF 4, the Aftons were established as being British.
oh my god he totally is. this is the funniest thing possible to find out about fnaf 4
Oh crap. I forgot editing a comment gets rid of the heart. I just fixed a typo.
Anyway.
The FNaF 4 family is British!?
**Readies scooper**
Always has been.
One of the funniest parts about the FNAF lore to be will always be that the Aftons are inexplicably British for no other reason than British people sound more menacing. Like that's so funny.
That one moment of Michael flipping off his brother didn't mean anything until we heard the voice of William Afton in Sister Location.
Now we have a clear connection between the FNaF 4 brothers and William Afton. Being British. They were Aftons. They always have been.
@@walnzell9328 they gave it back lol
Cassie being named directly after Cassidy is peak. Baller theory all around. Michael "too angry to die" Afton goes hard.
Yes it goes very hard but I don't think this means he is the vengeful spirit
@The.great.and.powerful.Tonnish I completely agree, it's still a good narrative interpretation, but for this timeline it makes much more sense for TOYSNHK's identity to be Cassidy (crying child)
He is just so angry i love my boy michael
@@RWQFSFASXC-y7s why do you think he’d be vengeful? i’d love to hear your opinion
@@YRTTSSFS real
i actually really like the angle of crying child just being cassidy. its so simple and so much cleaner than a lot of the other options.
Ikr?!
Occam's razor
no
Lol I was so confused for half a second because I didn’t know Cassidy could be a boy’s name, I had to look that up
Omg I know right, at first I got angry, but the way she connected the ideas so clearly and thoroughly!!!!! Im a fan of this interpretation.
Fun fact: The name Cassidy is a boy's name of Irish origin meaning "curly-headed". So y’all might actually have cooked with that theory
HOLY FUCK
Does he even have Curly hair though? Regardless of Origin its now a Unisex name, no doubt that was a deliberate choice.
me and cassidy be twinning then
@@emperorvader283 I don’t fully remember if he does or not I thought he was described that way but that is why I said “y’all might have cooked”
For those reading the replies who are unsure how massive of a deal this is, curly black hair is associated by the books to the kid possessing golden Freddy
MatPat himself coming out of retirement to check this out is insane. Congrats guys 👏👏👏
where?
@@godofgrains The recent Game Theory
He always come back
He always comes back
He always comes back
58:38 THE FACT that you seem to have solved 1) the box 2) the patch of dirt in MM, and 3) the wound inflicted on Henry all in one fell swoop, while at the same time giving William not only a motive but a method for how he got away with it?? And that it MAKES SENSE both in-universe and narratively???? Insane. I don't think I'll be able to see any other theories the same after this.
@@darkpain2452 Elizabeth is dead after Fnaf6, and William cant build robot children thats what the novels told us. The one in UCN is either Andrew or Cassidy.
Nightmarrione is just a shadow
@@darkpain2452 Thats not how remnant works,
Eleanor dies btw. She is trapped in an eternal nightmare and jake kills her.
The name was about the happiest day, GF aka Cassidy receives happiest day so its her name. Movie shows CC"s name is probably Garret.
OMC is not working for vanny, he works against her and the mimic
@@darkpain2452 I know how remnant works, ur basing it of AR not Talbert.
Eleanor is knocked out by Jake, this is outright said in the story.
OMC is an entity to represent William's crimes, he is not related to Vanessa/Vanny since she is under Glitchtrap aka Mimic1
Btw Vanessa is not Puppet, this is simply false
@@SchoolNotes-n7x Help wanted 2, Vanny Smash Glitchtrap was not the frist time
the one write the code in mike room was vanessa, she plan for security breach, she planned for gregory to escape and destroy the animaltronics, and burn burntrap
"Btw Vanessa is not Puppet, this is simply false"
its because vannesa is based in charliebot, that uses the same program as the puppet, its named "Baby", william afton steal the program created by henry, creates his own version of it, called "Circus Baby"
they shared the same network, Charlie is possesing the network itself, that why she different of others
this explain of behavior of charlie in ultimate custom night
“I don't hate you, but you need to stay out of my way.”
“Seeing you powerless is like music to me.”
the reason why charlie doesn't hate william, its because she has memories of being his daughter, she is haunting the network that has elizabeth as node
and explain behavior of circus baby in fnaf 6
“It feels like home...”
“It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?”
fnaf 6 is making circus baby remember her birthday party, elements
1-fredbear family dinner
2-the place where everything started and now ending, full cycle
3-the only party we know happened in fredbear family dinner, was the crying child and charlie
4-the party created by henry in fnaf 6 to end all the tragedy that started in charlie party, its making circus baby remember of her party long ago
5-in her final dialogue circus baby talks all this is a gift for her and someone else
she talks about finally able to fulfill her purpose
i have question for you, she was really talking about killing living children? actually does even metioned?
or she was talking about pieces of the ghost kids, that are scattered everywhere, Henry intructs the player of fnaf 6 to collected all them together in one place?
Henry isn't god, its a human is very aware of things happening, but not of every single thing, so isn't definitive answer to everything, there always chance he missundertood something or was wrong about something
you think Circus Baby tricked mike in sister location for no reason(she has reason and he deserves, the bite 1983, the one mike did caused , she is very vengeful to things, acts like she doesn't care, but she actually do)
one more question
who did trapped circus baby in game timeline? and trilogy of book?
who she is angry at, and comes to that other person? in both timelines?
the final dialogue of Circus Baby and henry in fnaf 6, its was not about Elizabeth and Henry
but the final dialogue between charlie and henry, after decades
of course he did never noticed, circus baby was pretending so much to other way, you can't even tell, she was haunted by charlie, like a twisted charlie
eleanor betrayes willliam in fazbear frigths, the same way
I dunno how Scott would've shown the corpse of a child in the box. Not sure about that being what it was.
You know what I enjoy about this theory? Narrative-wise, it's VERY satisfying. The abused son who was made to do his father's dirty work and was thrown away as 'expendable', only for said expendability to be a huge mistake and end up biting his jerk father in the face in the end? It FITS. It's NATURAL. It doesn't FEEL like a massive stretch. From strictly a writing perspective (seeing as I don't have near encyclopedic knowledge of the franchise) It Just Works
i have encyclopaedic knowledge over the franchise (read and studies every book and game and comic and even some of the merch bc this is what I do instead of the franchise) and apart from the smallest of hiccups (basically one or two that I can right now tell) it works
@@GollyGoshGale RIGHT!!!!
@@GollyGoshGale my problem with michael being vengeful spirit is that scott described vengeful spirit's voice as a young boy/girl, surely mike is a grown up at that point, and also if william is screaming for henry and mike to help, why would he ask mike to help if mike is the one keeping him there, he would say please or something like that
@@assadarlingtoni the first one i personally havent heard much about so ill have to do my own research and also william screaming for help probably just was him screaming for someone to help him and the only people who were there and the only people who he could reconginise wouldve been henry and mike both of whom who, when he last checked, both were under his control (mike going to sister location to help him w/ elizabeth and henry having helped him with the franchise and taken the fall for him when he got arrested, also william would never had known anything about henry hating him due to this being the first time he had seen him since the arrest and so he mightve just been stupidly hopeful at a chance to be saved) also im sorry for the yapping also the first one may possibly be answered by saying that mike had become vengeful when he was young but had supressed it and caused it to build until it took place of him being able to possess himself so it may have been that he was vengeful as a child like scott said but was only able to take out thos vengeful acts when he had grown up
edit bc i realised more info: mike and henry wouldve been the only recognisable people and although mike was literally rotting he wasnt inside a suit and also henry was just a normal human and so he mightve called out to the specifically because they were the only recognisable people/things he could interpret and also the vengeful spirit voice being a child may also be when he was a child but also he mightve possible found out something along the lines of what happened to cassidy and wouldve been mad at that and, like i said before, the built up of anger from childhood abuse and neglect where he first became vengeful leading to him being able to stay alive for so long
@@assadarlingtoni they explained that Michael was presented as the young abused and nieve son he was to will. Kinda shows he’s not that same person anymore but will torment William as the nieve and easy to manipulate child.
I love the meticulously made 2 hours of subtitles with proper punctuation and emphasizing. One of the best quality first videos I’ve ever seen.
I fucking love punctuation
forever will be gateful of youtubers who make their subtitles 🙏
fr, even bigger youtubers like Rhett & Link don’t always have accurate subtitles (and don’t get me started on markiplier’s)
yeah FR so grateful for quality subtitles
its genuinely fantastic. captions should be a routine part of making a video, something as natural to add as editing, b-roll, etc.
the fucking whiplash of FINALLY understanding the box and the grave in midnight motorist and then seeing judy fucking hopps killed me and now you two have to pay for my funeral
I think the somber explanation of the MCI timeline and Later That Night to "LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NIGHTMARE GAS!" is more whiplash-y
- show up
- claim they solved FNAF
- drop a masterpiece of a video
- elaborate
- leave
I hope to see more of this type of content!! This was a great time
you forgot the profit part
@@theatresreyes2115 Profit? Off of UA-cam?
@@theaffablestranger3672 probably??
@@theatresreyes2115 Boy, you sure don't know how monetization works.
I was here pretty quickly enough guya
y'know? i was skeptical. i was SO goddamn skeptical.
i cannot FUCKING believe you have convinced me nearly wholeheartedly that the Crying Child was named Cassidy, and the Mike was The One You Should Not Have Killed.
I've been in the theory sphere of this fandom since it began, and this is actually my favorite interpretation of the springtrap-era lore i've seen.
i am practically salivating for the 15-part series where Grampat himself gives his opinions on it.
You have perfectly summarised my entire opinion on this video. This better fucking bring Matpat back from his retirement grave to watch this.
i NEED grampat to react on gtlive
@@n0va_starrhe still watches stuff like this on gtlive.
@@trinb7137The video is way too long for mat to react on gtlive I'm afraid
@@n0va_starr Matpat has still been doing GT Live! So more longform content like reacting to this would be perfect!
" Wait. Its all been Michael?" "Always has been." *Gets shot in the head*
Was that the shot of '87!?
The game must of been rigged from the start
So, your dad had you killed huh? From where you're kneeling it must seem like an 18-carat run of bad luck.
From where Micheals sitting, this must seem like an 18 carat run of bad luck.
Then he comes back as everything in this series
POV: when you FNAF theory so hard that you bring MatPat back from retirement.
one for the books, indeed
Can't believe this channel came out of nowhere and just logged the entire theorist community.
Gotta say I haven't enjoyed a theory this much in a long time and it all feels satisfying narratively.
ikr!! i feel the same way
Yeah this theory is such a breath of fresh air tbh
amen, it actually adds something new
One thing that could explain Henry being let out of jail is actually the time frame. A lot of cases in the late 90s and early 2000s were reviewed and a lot of people that were falsely imprisoned were released due to the advent of DNA technology. Henry's case could've been reviewed and combined with the fact that murders continued after he was imprisoned and Afton's shady behavior and his entire family disappearing...
I like this a lot. Adding to it Henry could very well have made the argument that 1. the evidence that it was him came down to security camera footage (80's security camera footage at that) and 2. clearly he wasn't the only one who knew how to operate a springlock suit. They had and must have trained other employees, it could have been any former employee.
I thought one of the posters from fnaf 1 said that the suspect was released because they couldn't find the bodies? Am I mis-remembering?
@@James-zj3pmthey were charged and convicted
nvm i just re-read them, I don't know where I got taht info, maybe its in matpats complete timeline or something cuz I vividly remember hearing it
@@James-zj3pm it's possible. Matpat has an infuritating habit of making up shit on the spot to support his theory and presenting it as solid fact. Makes his videos very hard to enjoy
This is *BY FAR* the most narratively satisfying interpretation/theory of the FNAF Afton storyline I've seen so far. There will always be flaws in any FNAF theory just because it's clear that Scott didn't plan the entire thing from the start and fixed things along the way, so there are plotholes here and there. But this is unquestionably the theory that has less holes but most importantly, again, the roles of the characters makes so much more sense than any other theory I've seen so far. If this is not the canon story, it really should be. Congratulations to you both, this was *awesome* .
The most negatively satisfying? Yeah no.
@@korruptor9777 Who said "negatively"?
@@korruptor9777can you read?
My previous favorite was the wendigoon theory video so im gonna go watch this and see if it goes hard brb
Edit: Holy shit
@@korruptor9777the reason the literacy rate is declining
Another thing I noticed! In UCN (Ultimate custom night) circus baby (or scrap baby, I can't remember exactly) says "you won't die, but you'll wish you could." This line is extremely similar to one of the endings of the sister location, where circus baby says "you won't die". And If we're going by the idea that the vengeful spirit is talking through the animatronics, it can't be Cassidy or any of the missing children, because they never heard her say that, Michael did.
DUDE YOU'RE SO RIGHT
Isn't that in FNAF 6
@@Shadow01974 is it? I may have mistaken the two- If it's in fnaf six then I'm probably wrong :(
@@CalimarisArtisticRageNope, you’re not mistaken, it’s the ending of the cutscenes on Sister Location’s Custom night. (When you finish the hardest difficulties of every challenge minus Golden Freddy mode [on Golden Freddy mode you get the Michael monologue, which is my favorite cutscene of the whole saga, making fnaf Sister Location Custom Night my favorite game])
@@s_ec_r_et5008 oh thank goodness, I was worried for a minute :(
2:06:10 the ending screen being a big, bold “YOU DID IT!” before showing the twitching golden freddy is also…telling.
It makes sense since William stuffed Cassidy in the suit and it spring-locked him, kupo. Mike is telling him "You did this!," kupo.
damn. it fits almost too well
OH FUCK???? THATS SO CLEVER LMAO
Mike: "You did it!"
- Shows Cassidy's death
-Refuses to elaborate
-Leaves through red lake
@@maciejlekki6878 Almost as if Scott planned it, kupo.
Something I hadn’t thought about until now. Michael has to be the Vengeful Spirit because he’s the ONLY PERSON who knows what it’s like to be a Freddy’s security guard!!! None of the other candidates would know what it’s like to sit in the FNAF offices until 6 am, fighting off animatronics. 🤯
Good point!
Although that makes the Vengeful Spirit's voice being childish weird
@Artraluiz his childhood was probably ruined by William, so that's the form he takes. And as for the voice it's common for women to voice young boys
@@bluestar_kuna girl actually voices Gregory in security breach
@@bluestar_kun I thought to point out that childhood trauma in rare instances can give the person an indefinite child voice. Said voice can only be rid with therapy. Perhaps this is some version of that, eh? Normal human voice, traumatised spirit voice
Having Cassidy not only being the Crying Child but also what's inside the infamous box completely changes everything you know about FNAF. No wonder Scott never wanted to reveal what was inside it!
THERE'S A CELEBRITY IN THE COMMENTS OH MY GOD
you are everywhere i go.
what happens to Evan then
@@whydude7583did you even watch the start of the fucking video? CC isn even, CC IS Cassidy!!!
@@benjaminsterberg548 I did watch the video?
This genuinely is probably the most comprehensive theory I've heard in a very long time, and it's not conviluted. It ignores details that feel irrelevant but also acknowledge other clues that could point to something else. Honeslty, this is my new interpretation of the FNAF lore and 100% will be influencing my fanart. God damn I loved this I cannot wait for more
My favorite part of Micheal being "the one he shouldnt have killed" is that it really makes sense for him to be experiencing the security guard deaths that Micheal could have experienced.
Michael DID experience because he was a walking corpse.
@algsunshine7075 We know that he died to the scooper. Which as far as I'm aware isn't in UCN for William to experience. It's also unlikely that Micheal was stuffed in any of the suits like phone guy was but I guess not impossible.
I'm impressed, the clickbait genuinely didn't lie. This feels more complete and satisfying than what the mainstream theory is. Also the idea for steel wool game protagonists to be references to the fandom's idea of Cassidy feels somewhat fitting. Great video essay!
People always say that the crying child has to have some reason to be scared of the animatronics, but if you ever been to Disney World you would know that children love Mickey Mouse and have all the toys, but they’re terrified when the mascot workers walk up to them. That’s just how kids act around big robots/costumes.
But I do have to say, their theory with the guy bleeding out in the back room is a new one that sounds pretty interesting
I would agree on that if there wasn't for the "Remember what you saw" line
@@childofapollo2187 remember what you saw, WITH a cut to william putting someone in a suit. Granted, it was an employee, but the implications are that CC witnessed his dad hide a corpse. Knowing your dad hides bodies of kids your age, in a place and with characters he knows you love, with an older brother who flat out abuses you... That seems like enough reasoning to be crying constantly
When I was a kid, my mom took me to an international book fair. There were these giant(from the kids' perspective) mascots. One of them was a hedgehog with bulging eyes. My mom saw I was very distressed around him, so she tried to hide with me in closed-off stands. But I, being a bored 5-year-old, often ran away from her. One time I ran off I found myself face in face with that hedgehog. It started walking towards me and I started crying my eyes out.
So yea...
Kids can be easily traumatised.
@@justaperson4656It doesn't even have to be seeing his father hide a body. Imagine seeing someone get into something that you knew could kill them, but you can't say anything because of what your family would do to you, very dark but also makes a lot of sense.
is it really just about the mascot costumes being big? i wouldnt be surprised if lots of kids are just picking up on the uncanniness of their favorite characters wearing lifeless eyes and frozen expressions, all while contrasting with the real movements of living people. not like i'm an expert on the subject though, makes me wonder how kids scared of this stuff react to mascot costumes of robot type characters, or even characters with obscured faces in general like masks and junk.
My jaw legit DROPPED at the "One he should not have killed" reveal
What minute is that?
@@joshd.m86191:46:30
one thing i wanna add. the name “old man consequences” even just sounds like an aged henry. Decades in prison, prolly super old, blamed to reap the consequences of will’s actions. I just love that connection
Given that there was no hard evidence against Henry, including no major physical evidence and especially no bodies, it's possible he got out on appeal or some other such thing. Even a lighter sentence than one would expect.
Possibly even DNA exoneration after a few decades. That was very common in the years when DNA became accepted as evidence. Many people were let go free at that time.
It's also possible that someone could have called in an exonerating hint anonymously. For instance, someone who just found out what his own father has been up to, is very angry about it, and had decades to stew on it while he awaits his chance at revenge.
I mean, he could've been exonerated when they found the dead children in the pizzeria in FNAF 2. They likely would've thought that the dci and the mci have the same culprit, and Henry was already in jail, so it couldn't have been him.
Also, it is possible that because of lack of hard evidence, Henry could only, at maximum, receive a life sentence (minimum of 25 years) or less, and at the time that Henry gets out of jail, he simply gets out because he has served his sentence in its entirety. As by the time Henry gets out, decades have passed since the MCI.
I was thinking that a good defense attorney would most likely be able to delay a death sentence by fighting to overturn it. Some death row inmates wait multiple decades for their sentences to be carried out, it gets trapped in legal hell for quite a while.
This might be one of the best theories I’ve ever seen. I’m actually the editor for RyeToast so I’ll definitely be sending this to him!
Based
Awesoooome!!!!
Theory so groundbreaking, they pulled matpat out of retirement
HOLY SHIT, The crying child getting SPRINGLOCKED was something I never even considered which re-contextualizes him saying IT'S ME! And the box and Henry getting arrested? Charlie getting bullied which explains why she was outside in that mini game? And Michael actually being the vengeful spirit considering all that he's been through, as well as him returning in Fnaf 3 (even though he's probably a stank ass corpse at this point) which explains the derpy ass jumpscares of that game? All tying back to Fnaf 6 and that one that shouldn't have been killed thing? and fitting in FNAF WORLD into all this?? idk how much of this is intentionally planned by Scott at this point, but I just love seeing narrative pieces getting neatly tied together. You gals be COOKIN
Scott might not have planned the first video game but all the video games after that are him expanding and trying to explain the story that he just put in as a Easter egg.
I still don’t think the one he shouldn’t have killed is an indirect death, but everything else made a lot more sense than other theories (especially the crying child Cassidy theory)
None of it was intentional, if you write vague af hints, you can make any story make sense.
It's an excellent theory video, sure, but it was still build on vague Scott hints, hence why so many theories devianted from one another, not because the fanbase is dumb but because Scott intentionally made "lore hints" so vague the next game retconned the last
can someone explain how charlie died after cc? cc was alive after midnight motorist!!! charlie died first right?
or if he did die first and michael escaped the house, who in the hell was the one sitting on the couch watching tv in midnight motorist???
@@blehblblehbl7535 In the theory, CC lingered in a coma--if you watch this video, Cori or Connie left a text note on screen mentioning that they did some quick research after they finished making most of the video that victims of frontal lobe damage are often sent home to recover--or, possibly in CC's case, for hospice care. So, CC was effectively braindead or at least extremely handicapped, but stable as the Aftons (and probably several nurses) looked after him.
During the Missing Children Incident, William Afton clued in that the children he murdered and then stuffed into the animatronics were haunting the machines. Afton, hoping that this meant that he could essentially "fix" CC by killing the damaged body so his son could inhabit an animatronic instead, stuffed CC into Golden Freddy and killed him. When it didn't immediately work, Afton panicked, took CC's body back out, and buried him in the box in the woods. In reality, killing his body DID work, but because Afton didn't leave the body in the suit, CC couldn't figure out what had happened to him, so all he could do was retrace his way home, at which point Michael spotted Golden Freddy. Michael escaped the house then as CC tried to contact him, since Michael felt horrible and wanted to try and help his brother.
The person on the couch could be Mrs Afton--perhaps she too was abused into submission by William, OR the horrible mangling of one her sons by the other son, only for her extremely handicapped son to "vanish" has left her a broken shell, unable to actually protect Michael or eventually Elizabeth. She is vaguely alluded to by the one staffbot at the "family dinner" portmanteau from Security Breach, so it's not too far fetched to think she was alive for Midnight Motorist.
everyone is commenting about the actual theory parts but i am bowing down in gratitude that this video is subtitled, with the subtitles even clarifying who is speaking, and laughing all the humor in the intro. i think i commented aloud "iconic" multiple times in just the intro. ok now i will watch the actual theory and lore-crafting :)))
Truuuuueeee
Y e s. It's fantastic!
Absolutely! It’s so nice to see those details in the subs.
Yeah, I have auditory processing disorder and the subtitles were a blessing. Very well-made video!
YES OMG
The game crashing after Michael's talk with OMC could also imply him finally moving on. Since Michael is our protagonist, him dying would also cause the exquisite torture chamber that is FNAF 6 to shut down - the game crashes, because is nothing left for us to do.
seconding this
Oh my god that is such a good take. I mean, what is crashing the game by diving into the lake? If it’s meant to be the Vengeful Spirit ignoring Old Man Consequences, then wouldn’t it just take you back to the start again? Instead, it’s a full crash, and the only way the cycle continues is if you choose to boot the game up again.
Ok, this seems solid fr
@@765ZackAttack I can definitely see this being true, but I suspect if it is, it's more like an opportunity for Mike to move on that he repeatedly chooses to reject, as signified by the player relaunching the game. And I think that's key, as it puts the player in Mike's position in two ways: asking themselves, "do I want to keep playing? keep torturing William?" and then exerting their will to choose one or the other. We have the same choice to make as Mike. Generally, players will be first encountering Old Man Consequences early in their playthrough of the game, so players are quick to think, "Yes I'll keep going, I'm not done". This response is somewhat dismissive of the gravity of the question, which would happen if you were hellbent on revenge, just like Mike. It's only later, after experiencing everything the game has to offer, that we might stop to think about it, and in doing so, we're again put in Mike's shoes. As time passes, Mike would eventually start to notice that this revenge wasn't healing him, and begin to question the eternity he'd chosen for himself.
@@Feeling_Better_Already extremely compeling theory!
I think an idea that might strengthen your theory regarding Crying Cassidy is that we only ever see hospital equipment in the context of CC's bedroom. The whole fandom has collectively agreed that this symbolically means that he is actually in a hospital bed, but we literally see in game hospital equipment in the FNAF 4 house. Maybe CC was stable enough that he didn't need to be on 24 hour watch and his condition was stable enough that he could be moved back to the Afton house as long as he was hooked up to an IV and taken care of by his family. A lot of people will be moved back to their own homes after an accident, and I think it's very possible that seeing hospital equipment in his bedroom could be taken very literally.
This means that William doesn't have to smuggle Cassidy out of the hospital, he was already at home, and because he wasn't making a miraculous recovery, he decided to take him off of his equipment in his own home and be springlocked by the Golden Freddy suit instead to try and save him. Like William is even more closely monitoring Cassidy's condition because he isn't visiting him at the hospital, he is able to be with him every minute which could make him more irrational and desperate. Anyway, just food for thought.
See the thing that wouldn’t go with this is it’s suspected and might as well be confirmed he died in the hospital during the coma, the evidence being the flat line Scott put out.
After thinking about it for a while, I think CC was only ever comatose in his room, that he was never even admitted to a hospital. The bite happened in a building that William either owned or operated, when the only people there were children and his employees. It could have easily been covered up to save face for the company. That would also explain why police would see CC's disappearance being related to the MCI, since it would happen in the same place as the rest.
@@cynder316 I don’t really think that made sense since the staff would of called the police, worried for the boy. Heck the tormentors probably did scared for his life. So it more possible for him to be admitted to the hospital in a coma later to die then him to be at home, also since he fell in to a coma they aren’t allowed to actually take him out of the hospital still he actually wakes up which he didn’t. The proof he dined in the hospital was the flat line Scott gave.
Also to add Henry wouldn’t just allow William to take the boy home since he also owns the company/ operates, and since they own it together it’s no stopping him from calling the police after finding out being worried for his nephew.
@@Cloudy-Chan2 I'm saying William used his authority over the staff to manipulate them into silence. The other masked kids might not want to admit what happened either, and probably wouldn't be believed without adults to back them up. I agree that Henry would not have let this slide, but I never meant to imply that he knew about this. Will got away with literal murder in that building, so it's not much of a stretch to think he could hide the bite from his partner as well. Also, out of all the wild things William was able to get his hands on, a heart monitor doesn't seem like much to me.
@@cynder316 why would William waste the time or effort on his children other then for experiments right, he wouldn’t waste that type of money, and its most likely cc died even quicker without the proper medical attention. Also Cassidy nigh be the the byte victim name but there no saying that the victim possessing golden Freddy and Bite victim are one in the same. Also even if BV just disappeared there were multiple witnesses children where there parents, what’s saying the police wouldn’t question them. It’s more easy to say the police were called then they weren’t.
To add beside the party it was a public building and other kids and parents were there.
Michael being The One You Shouldn't Have Killed™ would also explain the one thing that has always confused me about UCN: Why does Rockstar Foxy help the player?
Michael is obviously very associated and sometimes even represented by Foxy. If we assume this is also the case here, Rockstar Foxys behavior makes a lot more sense. Just as Michael has helped his father in life, Rockstar Foxy helps him in death.
This could be because old habits like these are very hard to fully let go of, especially when they were created to survive abuse. Or it could be just another lesson for William. Yes, Foxy helps the player, but rely on him too much to fix problems you created for yourself (low power, high heat, etc. in UCN, stuff like the Funtimes being ready to kill William in SL) and he will quickly end your run. Just another parallel to Michael deciding to stop his father after he sent him on one job too many. "You play with fire, and sometimes you get burned."
(Sorry if this thought isn't worded very well lol)
oh hell yea
DAMN that's a good connection. I love all the little things in UCN that are suddenly much more significant if you believe the VF is Mike.
It’s worded so unbelievably well
Ohhhh my god the fire parallel
Genius
Michael being the vengeful spirit feels WAY more thematically satisfying to me as "the one you shouldn't have killed". Also my headcannon for the shadows is that they were the 2 springlock failures the fnaf 3 tapes talked about.
Fazbear Frights confirmed they're just Agony beings, but all power to ya
@@storytellernerdreally? please explain if you don’t mind
@@ErrorNumber404 as in what the shadows are or how the books explain it?
@@storytellernerd …preferably both?
@ErrorNumber404 basically whenever a bad event happens, agony is formed, this can cause agony beings to form, which are the shadows, what they are from is a different debate
As soon as you justified the box's existence, I was 100% locked in, and, yeah, I think you two did it. I think you made something beautiful of this mess of a narrative. This is my favorite interpretation yet. Kudos, ladies.
whats in the box being the pieces put back togheter does make alot of sense
@@purplfish6248 its definitely not CC's body. Unless you want to spin it somehow into CC's body being the missing piece from him finding peace in the afterlife. Piece? Peace? .....interesting connection now that I'm thinking about it.
Have to admit I was immediately super skeptical when you dropped the Michael-vengeful-spirit-Afton bomb, but once you started putting all the pieces together its like something clicked in my brain finally after years of watching theory videos and feeling something was always slightly off when it came to cc/cassidy/vengeful spirit stuff. Also the theory about the box. holy shit yall. I don't think I've ever watched a theory video that's strung so many loose threads together so neatly, this has definitely become my favourite fnaf timeline/story theory
Something y’all said about the Golden Freddy suit sitting in the back room really struck a chord with me. He’s just like back then: locked in a backroom, alone, and utterly helpless.
Oh my god. That’s so depressing.
That really shocked me and the fact that his body was left and forgotten in a chest in the woods made me feel even more anguished. Poor boy he didn't deserve such a horrible fate.
I really like the idea that the vengeful spirit is Michael, an adult. The whole "one you should not have killed" always sounded like Scott was so focused on sounding 'dark' and 'edgy' that he forgot he was talking about a literal child. Like you said, what makes this one kid so special? All of them are vengeful but the idea that one of them is such a threat that they earn the "should not have killed" label? It didn't sound right for this series. However, an adult, who can comprehend all of Williams's actions and has been his victim for many years? Now that is gonna create a vengeful spirit who William should've been more wary of.
I thought Cassidy was the one who he shouldn't have killed, because it was so messy and sloppy it caused him to stop killing for a minute.
@@dubzzzmacq8658watch the video
But William never killed Muchael... he die in pizzeria simulator when the whole place burn.
@@magikazam8430 william abused michael and then sent him to his death before pizzeria simulator, which made him vengeful
@@hotdogprincess Would be cool if we had any proof of that in game too, that just head canon. We don't know what William intention where after sending Mike to the bunker in Sister location. Especially when the man is known to experiment with souls and possession, If he wanted to kill Mike, he would have done so long time ago, or just in Sister location to experiment on him. To me it more likely he just send mike to ''put back together'' his sister, knowing the animatronic would react badly to himself, he send Mike.
I think this might be my new favourite FNAF theory. It makes just as much if not more sense than the mainstream interpretation, and it's a real breath of fresh air for the theorizing community.
its Cassidy(Crying Child) the one torturing william afton, forever, but he isn't the only one together in this insanity,Elizabeth(Nightmarionne) is together, she is demon that wiliiam have created
the william did succeed in making robots kid, he rebuild the crying child, just to broken him by machines again and again,elizabeth was discarded like was nothing, because she was baby AI level of intelligence, but she became smarted to point, nothing can stop her
Circus Baby is the biggest lie in fnaf, she isn't evil, she just pretending to be, her goals are aligned to charlie, she is twisted Charlie
Lefty UCN-Voiceline
"Shhhh...I'm so glad that I found you, let me make room for you."
Circus Baby AR-Voiceline
"I am so glad that I found you...let me find room for you...inside..."
its the same being talking
@@darkpain2452 That's an interesting theory, if I understand it correctly.
@@cawareyoudoin7379 uhm, i spend enormous amount time thinking, of what going in security breach, but every time, there something wrong, or missing
let me explain, how everything tie up
in the trilogy of fnaf, its never explain or show where is 2th charliebot, but its explain the she is a robot that want love of her father
who in this fanchise was character that want her father loves?
Elizabeth, she was 2th Charliebot
1th was made when henry loses her,is the ella doll using ilusion disk becames 1th charlie bot
2th was made when henry missing his daugther, but is never specific show where in trilogy, until take every event,see was elizabeth
3th was made when henry accept he go mad
4th was made when henry angry at everything
in trilogy circus baby tells john, she was the charlie he did meet when they are kids, she was not lying,
teenager charlie remembers golden freddy, but john and her friends remembers brown freddy, this show charlie already is dead before meeting john or her friends, so they must be befriend a robotic version of her
elizabeth she tries became ella doll appearance, not circus baby, that why she could tell calton was lying to her, she was the one calton was friends are kids
do you know circus baby in fnaf 6 was acting very strange?
“It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?”
“It feels like home...”
“You don't really know who your employer is...do you?”-she know the one behind is henry
fnaf 6 was making her remember her birthday, charlie birthday, she has memories of charlie, in the final dialogue of fnaf 6, read her dialogue, now the person she is referring as daddy is henry,its going make more sense
“You played right into our hands, did you really think that this job just fell out of the sky for you? No. This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to. All of those little souls, in one place, just for us, a gift. Now we can do what we were created to do, and be complete! I will make you proud daddy! Watch, listen, and be full.”
she come there frist to find william to cut him into pieces, but found instead a gift for us(she is refering to herself and the puppet), she is very aware what is going on, what mike job is, she is happy that you collect all these pieces in one place, now she can finnaly do what she was made for
she was not talking killing kids, but putting all the pieces of ghost kids back together, she was unable because william scattered them everywhere, but contractor(henry) and mike did collect all them in one place, so this whole thing is a gift for her and the puppet
in trilogy the one trapped her was henry, so after escaping she goes to william
in gametimeline, the one trapped her was william, so she goes to henry
Charlie remnant was possesing both the Puppet and Circus Baby at the same time, that why she is aware of everything
its like story of sussie come home, where chica does existed together with susie bring her to home and back
but in case of charlie, its both the puppet and circus baby at her side
Final Dialogue of fnaf 6, was not about circus baby and henry
But was final dialogue of Charlie and Henry after so long
the old man consequence is Henry, now he together with Charlie, and her two Guardians
Circus Baby is a twisted version, in fazbear frigths the puppet and circus baby acts together to downfall of william afton
@@cawareyoudoin7379 uhm, i spend enormous amount time thinking, of what going in security breach, but every time, there something wrong, or missing
let me explain, how everything tie up
in the trilogy of fnaf, its never explain or show where is 2th charliebot, but its explain the she is a robot that want love of her father
who in this fanchise was character that want her father loves?
Elizabeth, she was 2th Charliebot
1th was made when henry loses her,is the ella doll using ilusion disk becames 1th charlie bot
2th was made when henry missing his daugther, but is never specific show where in trilogy, until take every event,see was elizabeth
3th was made when henry accept he go mad
4th was made when henry angry at everything
in trilogy circus baby tells john, she was the charlie he did meet when they are kids, she was not lying,
teenager charlie remembers golden freddy, but john and her friends remembers brown freddy, this show charlie already is dead before meeting john or her friends, so they must be befriend a robotic version of her
elizabeth she tries became ella doll appearance, not circus baby, that why she could tell calton was lying to her, she was the one calton was friends are kids
do you know circus baby in fnaf 6 was acting very strange?
“It feels like, my birthday. Did you have a gift for me?”
“It feels like home...”
“You don't really know who your employer is...do you?”-she know the one behind is henry
fnaf 6 was making her remember her birthday, charlie birthday, she has memories of charlie, in the final dialogue of fnaf 6, read her dialogue, now the person she is referring as daddy is henry,its going make more sense
“You played right into our hands, did you really think that this job just fell out of the sky for you? No. This was a gift, for us. You gathered them all together in one place, just like he asked you to. All of those little souls, in one place, just for us, a gift. Now we can do what we were created to do, and be complete! I will make you proud daddy! Watch, listen, and be full.”
she come there frist to find william to cut him into pieces, but found instead a gift for us(she is refering to herself and the puppet), she is very aware what is going on, what mike job is, she is happy that you collect all these pieces in one place, now she can finnaly do what she was made for
she was not talking killing kids, but putting all the pieces of ghost kids back together, she was unable because william scattered them everywhere, but contractor(henry) and mike did collect all them in one place, so this whole thing is a gift for her and the puppet
in trilogy the one trapped her was henry, so after escaping she goes to william
in gametimeline, the one trapped her was william, so she goes to henry
Charlie remnant was possesing both the Puppet and Circus Baby at the same time, that why she is aware of everything
its like story of sussie come home, where chica does existed together with susie bring her to home and back
but in case of charlie, its both the puppet and circus baby at her side
Final Dialogue of fnaf 6, was not about circus baby and henry
But was final dialogue of Charlie and Henry after so long
the old man consequence is Henry, now he together with Charlie, and her two Guardians
Circus Baby is a twisted version, in fazbear frigths the puppet and circus baby acts together to downfall of william afton
@darkpain2452 Intresting idea, but something that would need to be stated for it is that Elizabeth is the correct name, not Charlie. Henry uses the name Elizabeth not the name Charlie in that very cutscene.
There also is the issue of the differing deaths or how Elizabeth possessed the robot that later possessed Circus Baby.
We also know Scrap baby burned in Fnaf 6. We do not have that conformation for Lefty/the puppet. So that throws a monkey wrench into the they would be merged again theory.
i honestly don't mind if this is wrong, the characterization of michael is absolutely Brutal and so so fun from a writing perspective. makes it feel like this character was cared about
You could be dead wrong, but I have to say that this is the first time that I didn't have to gaslight myself into believing a fnaf theory
Are you sure you don't want some nightmare gas
Why is this the most accurate comment
I mean some of it is still speculation but that's just how FNAF is
Literally any theory could be dead wrong, but I’m using nightmare gas to gaslight myself into believing this is the true lore
Meh the placement of fnaf two doesn’t fit because Michael was (according to them) a stinky boy before getting scooped and worn as a costume
Before watching: "Heh, they think they solved FNAF."
After watching: "Holy shit they solved FNAF."
Amazing work you two!
Idk there is a lot of stretches, cannot convince me the sl night 4 suit is golden Freddy when it has clearly defined lines and a *full* smile with no jaw unlike golden Freddy who does
@@coldshock5181100% because the golden Freddy mask cant be open that way anyway because it doesn't have any vertical splits on it
But could the suit have been altered in any way?
@@Scp2099goneby Why would it be altered with faceplates, not to mention the whole structure of the suit? There is 0 evidence for a reason why that would happen
@@coldshock5181There is 0 evidence for anything, dude was coming up with the lore as he went along. And who else would it be, a suit that fits an adult male? Just let the lore be solved it's not real life, its about time this lore is solved.
2:09:50 oh my god it’s the box. That makes so much sense! Cassidy’s body was put in the box and buried in the woods where we see in ‘later that night’ and the spot in the woods in fnaf world is that grave. That’s why that sprite of an open fnaf 4 box was found in fnaf world’s files! Narratively that makes so much sense, I love that take.
HOLY SHIT WAIT I THOUGHT OF SOMETHING
Fnaf World narratively is Charlie giving Michael hints for Charlie to get all of the pieces in place for the happiest day when the souls finally move on. Cassidy’s the hardest to make move on due to his “situation”. Why is the opened box in Fnaf World present?
Because after 40 years, Charlie finally found the box, opened it and allowed Cassidy to see his body so he could move on 🥹
FUCK this theory is still tying things together even months after hearing it, so so good
this video literally smacked matpat out of retirement. good job.
Honestly, I really hope the Game Theory team sees this. It's a bit hard to follow in places, but most things eventually click, and it has the major benefit of tossing out common assumptions and looking for completely new interpretations that might fit better, which is something that definitely needs to be done with this franchise since the common assumptions don't all fit together. You guys may be new to this, but while this video is rough around the edges, it needs to be seen by all the big FNaF theorists, if not because it's correct, then at least because it takes things from a new angle. It made things fit better than the current common understandings of the story do, at least, and that's just really satisfying. Well wrought!
can you imagine how long the gtlive series would be on this video lol probably an 100part series
@@natalielouise23 Yeah…that's my main misgiving about trying to send this over to GTLive, honestly, the way MatPat takes an hour to review five minutes…and most of it's him babbling about whatever unrelated stuff popped into his head until he's completely forgotten what's just been said in the video…SIGH…
that's whats fun about the new theorists. giving a different perspective and angles.
@@Wandergirl108 it's more annoying when he spends five minutes trying explain and question something when if he'd just keep watching it got answered right after he paused it
And thats why he(or tom) rewatches not on camera trying to make content @natalielouise23
The way my jaw FUCKING DROPPED when you said Michael was the one he should not have killed. I really hope that's cannon because it would be such a cool twist
I still don't fully understand why he would use a kid face to represent himself tho
@@anyoneatall3488 maybe as a demonstration to William of the childhood he made Mike and pretty much everyone else lose?
Maybe Michael just never stopped seeing himself as that face.
@@Hileavemealone Oooh!!!! I love that idea!!! Plus if Michael tortures William using his childhood face, the one he wore during the bite and when he saw his dad go of the rails, the effect on William would be far greater than if he used his adult face that his dad never saw as anything more than a means to achieving his goals.
@@anyoneatall3488 Since its the face of one of Scott's kids, maybe scott didnt think too much about the implications when he used the photo
The part about Henry being convicted and imprisoned makes so much sense, he would get time in prison for evidence but no bodies, without bodies you can’t argue a death penalty and you can’t argue life in prison because they’re *missing* not murdered and found dead. So it makes sense that Henry gets a rough 30 years and is let out.
Then there's the fact Michael would know everything by now, would be able to get the authorities onto the remaining stuff, and it becomes clear William was the one who did it all, not Henry.
@Drave_Jr. And by the time Henry can reasonably argue this to anyone willing to listen, William is already missing along with most of his own family. The justice system doesn't have anyone else to question and they already have a conviction, justice to the state has been served. Henry gets out and makes his moves to take the remnants of Freddie's and turn it into the trap that was FNAF 6
I've been very... disillusioned with the franchise lately, feeling that the story had gotten to a place where it was so convoluted and incomprehensible that it had lost the impact, the emotion it once evoked. Now, I feel like it's 2016 again. Thank you.
You know that one clip from Ratatouille where Skinner is reading the letter and his eyes slowly widens in absolute shock as he reads on?
Yeah that’s me throughout this whole video. Just… wow.
For fucking real. I started this vid thinking it was just things i already heard, NOPE
Dude! Hey sage!
At the end of the video I was just like Skinner: "I NEED MY LAWYER"
THAT'S SO REAL. EXACT SAME
For me it was listening to the video and being transported back to the golden age of matpat's fnaf videos when I was in middle school.
having captions for the ENTIRE 2 HOUR VIDEO is just insane, props for the whole project!
FR! I turned it on bc of my stupid ADHD brain and HOLY MOLY CONNIE YOU OUTDID YOURSELF
Kudos for the effort
when you dropped cassidy crying child bomb, I was FLOORED and everything just kept making more and more sense. ruin cassie being named after Cassidy afton gave me GOOSEBUMPS. thank you for the amazing theory and bringing me back to that childhood nostalgia of watching fnaf theories. can’t wait for more!
How can there be more? THEY SEEM TO HAVE SOLVED IT ALREADY!!! 😂😂😂
@@victorharrell1063 I wanna hear their theories for the steel wool fnaf games :)
@@jamiesantos8513 OH!!! I forgot about does, thanks for reminding me!!
I love how we can summarize Micheal as "local man literally too angry to die"
Henry was likely able to appeal his conviction when the second set of kids went missing and after decades of good behavior was able to be paroled.
Maybe sue the state for a wrongful conviction and the sloppy work on Charlotte's case and now there's some disposable income to, say, build a pizzeria?
@@Phantom86d that's good
@@Phantom86dmaybe Henry don't have to do that one. because it would've been a hell of a hot (and furates) news to the public that the culprit of children death is actually innocent and justice system is shithole enough to let this happen. I bet the official don't want to led these thing go wide spread.
or he could do/get both and profit?
I love the narrative interpretation that’s given to Micheal, it makes so much more sense that the one to hold William accountable, the one to hold him inside this hellhole forever is the one son of his who he tormented the longest. The one who tried doing everything to make him proud and eventually tried freeing his siblings but was killed in the process, to come back and completely ruin everything for him, and withhold him in his own personal hellhole, its an amazing interpretation of this plot
the way yall solved the box like it was nothing was probably the most shocking part of this theory to me, i was NOT expecting that bombshell to just be dropped like that. what was arguably one of the most infamous mysteries in the fnaf storyline, the center of countless discussions and arguments, one with like 4 billion different proposed solutions was mentioned a grand total of two times in a way that managed to make perfect sense, and they just moved on. this is probably the biggest flex in the history of theorycrafting
I wish this theory was canon so bad lol
I mean it's an interesting idea but it's in no way "solved"
I love this video but nothing in it really "confirmed" or "solved" anything. Like most fnaf theories, it's an interesting take, but no reason to believe it any more than matpats timeline video.
time stamp?
@@fohb7291this theory establishes facts based off of canon - you'll notice throughout the video they sprinkle in solid evidence to accurately support all their claims.
the reason there's so much storytelling and a lot less evidence is because they build the timeline based off the already present evidence.
the box containing Cassidy's remains feels like it's just speculation without evidence, but if you take into the account the story that was being told up until that point (which was supported adequately with evidence), the box theory is suddenly a lot more credible.
unless scott makes a statement agreeing with every single piece of content in this video, it's all just speculation. that's how it is with all fnaf theories. the difference between matpat's timeline and this video is that matpat's video relies on you watching past theories to understand the timeline, while this video incorporates all it's evidence and theories into the timeline in one place.
@@fohb7291 Fnaf will never be solved because these are just theories. Like scientific theories, they don't prove anything 100% because nothing can be absolutely proved unless God or whatever comes down the sky and says "Einstein was right" or something. However, in science a theory is the highest point a hypothesis can reach, and the same thing happens with FNAF. All that matters is who's theories are more accepted and have the most supporting evidence.
narratively, Michael as the vengeful spirit is perfect. I hope more evidence is found supporting this.
the shadow animatronics were the friends we made along the way
and the mold inhalation.
mostly the mold inhalation.
X}
Can't forget the nightnare gas!
Nah. Those were the original spring lock victims that caused the suits to be decommissioned.
Whats crazy is that we would still be playing as micheal when we were choosing the animatronics to torture his father with- yall cooked
YOOOOO thats actually really cool omg
Woah holy shit that's a level of consistency that HAS to be intentional
That's hilarious oh my god
I can just imagine ghost Michael going 'Hmm, what one of these awful creations should I send to torture that greaseball today? Maybe I'll pick just the Fredbear suit and taunt a Deathcoin in his face just to remind him.'
Other than being mostly iron clad and narratively satisfying, I think this theory is so good because it kinda puts the horror back into FNAF. Cassidy getting springlocked in his coma, that scene being the UCN stinger, Michael getting shoved into the Fredbear endoskeleton just like his brother, his general plotline in this story, I think it finally feels haunting like it did when I was younger. I dunno.
YEAH!! Like, a lot of other FNAF timelines just try to fit the pieces together in any way possible, and it ends up a bit of a confusing mess. But this theory? It aims to fit the pieces together in a way that A) makes sense, and B) is actually satisfying and works as a story. The idea of SL Night 4 being _Mike in the fucking Golden Freddy suit_ is fucking horrific in so many ways. It's just great.
Yeah, i think that this theory prioritized a genuinely interesting and horrifying story over everything else (not saying it's factually inaccurate, but it obviously does have holes since Scott definitely didn't intend for this, he didn't plan SHIT lol)
@@joyflameballI don’t think it’s satisfying because
1. I hate the idea of Cassidy and the crying child being the same person and not separate ghosts sharing the same body.
2. The fun time and toy animatronics all being possessed by the MCI children.
3. Agony being a thing.
4. SL taking place after FNAF 2.
5. Henry getting sent to prison and then somehow getting out despite several life sentences.
@@demetriam2408It wasn’t that genuinely interesting or horrifying really it would’ve been if there were way more children possessing like Cassidy being another character possessing GF alongside the crying child.
@@Taz-ey4jl ok
the major point number two literally made me GASP.
i usually do not watch fnaf theory videos anymore because people claim they have solved it, and the drop 3 hours of worthless info that is either 1. already widely known or 2. easily debunked, but WOW. as someone who is a longtime fnaf fan this is the first theory video to shock me to my core, yet make the series feel so close to complete. i started watching it with matpats commentary, but had to stop and watch it for myself. i feel as though matpat really missed the mark on his commentary, and was often confusing himself or not allowing space for his already "set in stone" theories to change. this was a wonderful video, full of old information tied into new theories with examples and supporting information that actually make sense and isnt just jumping the gun with loose ties. im not even fully done with the video, but after the point two drop i HAD to comment.
p.s. the solving of whats in the fnaf 4 box almost brought me to happy tears. fnaf 4 has always been my favorite game to theorize about and the box's contents litterally kept me up at night.
this whole video is very easily debunked lmao
@@Ben-zg8xk i looked long and far on reddit and other sites and havent found any concrete evidence to show that their points are wrong, just other theories and loyal theorists not allowing themselves to be wrong
@@deathcuphurts468 ok so cassidy being BV is completely wrong, they only came to that conclusion because they left out evidence. Altered is not responding to the fadeds question with ''it's me, Cassidy'', he says it's me, then responds with ''who are you'' and ''what is your name'', two things altered says in the word search that they conveniently leave out. the letters for cassidy aren't even found in altered text. Altered asks for fadeds name to which faded responds with cassidy. Also the entire book sets up the mystery of fadeds name, not altereds
The game crashing after Mikey talks to old man consequences could signify him letting go which would be really cool.
Never thought about it like that
Imma take it a step further and say the decision to "let go" in that moment or keep going and tormenting William longer could even be directly represented by the player's decision to either boot up the game again and keep going another night, or stop playing for the time being and move on to something else! (in a similar fashion to Undertale)
@@SamMaddie2 oooooo. I like this!
That's how I interpreted it and was shocked that's not the point they made lol
@@SamMaddie2And, maybe the game crashing (which is the game closing itself) Could mean Old Man Consequences actually forcing you to an extent to let go, giving Michael the choice to finally stay at peace and let go or reboot the game and keep the hell he created. In the end it’s Michael’s choice, though he gets a taste of what peace would feel like for the second the game crashes.
dude i have been a hardcore fan since like 2017 and never thought abt the fact that there's literally evidence that fanon cassidy doesn't even exist... u guys totally sold me on this, this is legit the most sensical fnaf lore theory ive ever watched
I didn’t even know Cassidy was fanon. Fnaf theorists completely convinced me that she was an in game character.
@@AngelicMads Same here
From the start, we had always been told there were five children missing in the same incident, of course its hard to suddenly realize the last one didnt actually exist and was actually the crying child this entire time, who had been shoved into the mci by william. It kinda does leave out the question of whos the alligator mask kid in happiest day though.
the only real mention of cassidy was in security breach's files, even then it was changed really damn quickly
Charlie being the left glowing eye in fredbear is INSANE considering lefty. well done
its like scott was trying SO hard to make it obvious and no one batted an eye
@@bricrowave a glowing left eye you might say
But Charlie is the puppet it doesn't make sense for her to be in Fredbear.
@@adambump5297They’re both Freddy models, so it could work.
@@RandomDoodlesIDo Ehh I still think that particular part is iffy
honestly, the sped-up audio of William screaming for help from Henry and Mike never sounded like that to me. It always just sounds like William angrily screaming Micheal's name, expecting for Micheal to simply give up and come running to his father's call, like he always did before. William, even now in his eternal torment, still believes he holds control over Micheal and still believes that if he just screams loud and angrily enough that Micheal will just listen and obey once more, showing additionally how far removed from reality William really is.
Then you need to get you ears checked I usually have a tough time hearing those kinds of things and even to me it sounds like William is screaming "Henry! Mike! Help! Mike! Help!" and yes he does sound angry but also like he's in pain. Which also brings up my point of there's no way Micheal is the vengeful spirit since it doesn't fit with his character and why would William being calling out to Micheal for help if Micheal is the one tormenting him
@adambump5297 I actively said why he would call on Micheal still? And personally I can't hear anything other than Micheal unless William is unnecessarily adding a kick to the end of every scream. I'll give "Henry" credence as the first scream, but again it ends with a weird kick at the end before the next scream begins and I can't think of any explanation otherwise. Not like William would have a fucked up voice box, it's his soul now. Although the unnecessary aggressiveness and superiority complex was definitely appreciated
btw it’s spelt ´Michael’
Cassidy being CC makes so much sense it nearly sent ME into a coma.
OF COURSE it's altered's name, it's the conclusion to the character arc the logbook sets up for him about remembering who he is.
I KNOW RIGHT THIS VIDEO LEGIT MADE ME MORE HAPPY THAN MY BIRTHDAY
Im honestly still not convinced that Cassidy is the intended/correct answer.
@@WinterPainsdid they address who ‘Evan’ was intended to be in the video
@@plasma7819 No. Where did the Fandom even get Evan from?
@@WinterPainsIt was people trying to use the same puzzle they used to find Cassidy's name to find CC's name, but only 3 of the 4 letters even fit with the method they used to find it. It just doesn't make sense.
This is it. I don't care what Scott or Steel Wool or the novels say, what canon becomes, what recons happen. This is MY fnaf. This is the reality I choose.
Good fucking job, you two. This shit is gas.
make sure it’s not nightmare gas 😊
I think I have to agree too 🫣 it’s just too fucking satisfying narratively 😌
Scott is literally the creator. You care what he says because it’s HIS story.
@@korruptor9777 except thats not how art works, you cant leave things for interpretation and then be mad when people interpret it "the wrong way"
@@ma_cherri when does scott even get mad?
Somebody get this shit to Scott, there is no way they aren’t the closest to being right we have ever seen. I have never even heard of the CCassidy theory or the Vengeful Michael theory, and I was super skeptical when you brought them up. By the end of the video though, you had me absolutely sold on both, and I think more FNAF fans certainly have to watch this video.
Edit: Also goddamn, this channel has gained 500 subs since I started the video, y’all deserve tf out of it. I can’t wait to see your theories on the Steel Wool era, that part of lore has always been a bit harder for me to keep up with.
CCassidy is occasionally mentioned in the theory community, the theory being called “CassidyVictim” but it’s not really considered valid for a couple of reasons (most notably the logbook which pretty clearly separates the two with there even being a gravestone with faded putting “MY NAME” on it pretty clearly linking the name to the last gravestone at the end of FNAF 6, as well as the fact that there’s no way for CC to go missing given we know by the flatline at the end he dies in the hospital, there’s no reason why he would be linked to the MCI event at the pizzeria, which at this point seems to occur in 1985)
@@deathclawproductions6723 disconnecting a body from a heart monitor still causes a flatline
@@cools-mc-fools Sure, but what’s more likely? CC surviving his entire head being crushed and leaving the hospital or that he died?
Given this is FNAF we’re talking about as well as the way the ending cutscene plays out, I’m willing to bet he simply died.
@@cools-mc-fools The character encylopedia and Movie def shows CC died
@@SchoolNotes-n7x the character encylopedia isn't exactly the most reliable source
Scott could come out and say this is all wrong and I wouldn't care, this is the one
Your Michael is Vengeful Spirit is such a good theory, love how you guys broke it down with the voicelines! I checked out UCN voicelines myself too and I think these lines also indicate Michael as the spirirt, "I am the Fearfull Reflection of what you created." and "Ihave always been hiding in your shadow." William always controlled him and Michael lived in his shadow, the brilliant scary father.
That only makes sense if you arbitrarily assign certain lines to Michael with no rhyme or reason. Nightmare Freddy says that line, and also says "I am remade, but not by you, by the one you should not have killed". So why is N. Freddy referring to himself in one line, but in another, it's supposedly Michael speaking through him? There is no reason, just randomly assigned meaning.
@@hannahjensen3948who is the little girl supposed to be in the ucn jumpscares if it’s Michael
Nightmarionne's line refers to him, not michael
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
@@plasma7819 I don't understand why you're assuming it's a girl. Nothing about the image is gendered.
I've always felt like the fandom wasn't quite onto what was happening there were too many loose ends, this nicely ties up pretty well all of them. I really like this, because you went in with the mindset of hey, almost nothing we think we know is cannon so lets go back to what the games gives us and not build off of what other people think is cannon.
Geah
Oh my goodness, this feels like the first time ever a FNAF theory video with a title including "solved" that actually solved something. I don't care if this is the correct interpretation of the story and lore or not, it's the best researched and reasoned, the most cohesive and definitely the most satisfying timeline I have ever heard. And on top of that I didn't even notice time flying by, I loved the visuals, loved your personalities and how you presented all of it, kudos to you and I am left yarning for more. Incredible work.
It honestly one of my favourite presented timelines.
My favourite though is probably wendigoons take on just the Cawthon era fnaf games.
it's the most satisfying telling of the story I've heard in a long time, I hope all fnaf theorists can give this vid a watch
Yeah I don’t know if I totally bought the timeline, but I’m fully sold on Cassidy being the crying child and Micheal being “the one you should not have killed”.
@@beedoesthings8037agreed! That revelation blew my mind.
I’m glad people are finally acknowledging Cassidy can be a boy’s name
is neutral,is like frisk or chara,i cant understand why scott release silver eyes and name girl cassidy
I don't personally consider FNAF "solveable", because I don't think Scott ever had a full plan for the series (which is understandable for many reasons) and I don't think he even knows what's up. That said, however: this was a really awesome and enjoyable theory because it's the first FNAF theory I've seen in awhile that truly brings NEW stuff to the table. That rearranges the puzzle pieces in a unique shape and works really hard to make it make sense. Really incredible job!
I personally believe that Scott Cawthon was making the entire story up as he went without much thought. In Phisnom and Pastra's FNAF lore brainrot stream they did a good job at assessing what the story was theorized to be after each game and how wildly it changed each time. How the story was already supposed to end like 3 times now, but kept going because people liked the games and wanted more.
I don't really mind it if not everything fits with a theory. Clearly the game itself doesn't care about being consistent. What matters to me is that it's narratively satisfying, which you two have achieved with flying colors. Good job on your first video! I had a lot of fun watching it.
Honestly, this theory is satisfying enough for me to actually be done with fnaf mentally, thanks for bringing some me level of closure for this series
LMAO
actually so real, this video satisfies the mess that was years of watching fnaf vids as a kid. i know nothing about modern fnaf stuff despite trying to keep up but this video just makes so much sense 😭 dont have to wait and wonder anymore, im checking out
honestly same
Why does this piss me off so much? You and the people who replied with the same sentiment. This video wasn't that satisfying. It doesn't deserve to elicit this in you.
That's just me though. Do whatever you want. It's none of my business. Don't let my weird misplaced feelings stop you. In fact, feel free to ignore this reply entirely!
@@--CHARLIE-- then why reply?
idk the story as-is sucks writing-wise, but it’s interesting enough that i still watch videos abt it. me personally, fnaf had so much potential to be an effective horror story if scott had only put a modicum more thought into it as he went. it’s a lot of lost potential w rly good bones, and that’s always been rly frustrating as a writer in a v unique way
im just happy somebody made a dish out of the all spaghetti he threw at the wall for so long.
This is, with respect to Matpat, Dawko, and the rest, I think my favorite FNAF theory video. Gives off HUGE "true crime podcast" energy, which I love.
god, the fact that this is 2 hours and 10 minutes long, and there's still stuff you decided not to go on a tangent about. the amount of confidence in your conclusions and being able to back it all up. solving shit in a way that ACTUALLY sounds super close to canon without any real major leaps. you manage to back EVERYTHING up. and this is your FIRST VIDEO.
i subscribed and have the bell on. i am obsessed and cannot WAIT to hear more of your thoughts on the franchise.
i reacted to this video like a football dad reacts to the Superbowl. on multiple different occasions.
i can't praise this video enough. hell, even with it's length - perfect pacing. masterful editing.
just.. wow. i am BLOWN away.
I absolutely love this whole theory. I was a bit apprehensive about Crying Cassidy at first, since it sounded like another contrivance and God knows we don't need anymore plottwists in FNaF, but honestly?, as the video went on I found that this is way more narratively satisfying than Cassidy being a random fifth kid. I actually really like this theory! This is a great video, I hope it takes off
There is CassidySis where Cassidy is not just random kid.
@@zeleeba8774 is that one Cassidy's a sister of CC?
@@themoocow7718 yes
How did y’all manage to make ALL of pre-steelwool fnaf make sense to such a degree while also making the biggest plot twists ever, and then making those plot twists sound like they should have been just as obvious as the most common of knowledge. Imo single best fnaf theory UA-camr and you’ve only made one video. What a feat.
Also I believe the shadow animatronics are representation of the other people that died in spring lock failures.
The shadow animatronics are easily explainable with that theory, yes.
The shadows are agony
Same for me. It is now pretty obvious that the shadow animatronics are just the workers souls that got killed in the suits but since they weren't explicitly killed they didn't hold as much vengeance
Wow. If CC really is Cassidy, this is a really good red herring. The name is traditionally feminine for Americans, but unisex in britain, and since the Aftons sound British, it's phenomenal
Yep, but has alot of problems
the box being "the peices put back 2gether" is beyond horror & i will b dissapointed if that isnt canon 2 the main continuity. so terrifyingly, perfectly poetic. genuinely creepiest thing in the game continuity if it were real.
I genuinely forgot that Scott said that inside the box was "the pieces put together" and Psychic Friend Fredbear (Afton) _literally_ says he's going to "put you back together". It works on multiple levels: it's the pieces of CC (Cassidy) put together, and if the fans found out, it's the pieces of the story put together (Cassidy was a fake MCI victim), linking the seemingly isolated story of 4 back to the first three games.
There’s no way you actually take the time to consciously type the number 2 instead of just typing to.
@@julius.caesar.Sometimes the vibes demand it
@@lasagna3289 The vibes did not demand it here.
@@lasagna3289 those vibes died in 2002, leave them there 😭
I’ll be honest, the idea of the crying child being Cassidy and Michael being the vengeful spirit makes a lot more sense than some random kid called Cassidy that we never heard of until the logbook. I think people might’ve been in a rush to solve golden Freddy when the logbook and Pizza sim came out and just assumed it was some random kid. Also the editing in this video is gold
Too bad Cassidy and the cryng child have zero connection expect "maybe both can bè golden freddy"
@@SubZero-hs9xc what? That’s not what I was on about at all
@@SubZero-hs9xc Crying Child = Golden Freddy cause thats the suit he was killed in. Security Log Book solves the question of Golden Freddy's name. i dont see how hard that is a connection to draw?
I was not very onboard about Michael being the Vengeful Spirit until you pointed out the “I am very real” of the nightmare animatronics and that convinced me so much, like I don’t know what else those lines could mean
having watched this when it dropped and a majority of it being head cannon now i can say watching fnafs biggest theorists digest this theory has been one of the most disappointing and frustrating moments ive had on a fnaf theory. every single thing in this video is explained and elaborated on perfectly and every theorist is just like well… no bc xyz instead of watching the video and keeping all of the perspectives linked to 1 whole theory. you guys did PHENOMENAL
Yeah this is such a cool theory idk why ppl want to disprove it
Especially matpat, I was watching back on the lives and he was making it so convulted and messy with his tangents instead of just watching it. I think that Dual Process Theory explained it incredibly well in full
@@solarstarr_ yes matpat especially on the final episode at the mike VS section. he deflected every little detail they added. so frustrating
This theory is NOT perfectly worked out. I'm not saying it's a bad theory, I personally love it but it's not perfect. I'm not going to explain all the points that are wrong, even things that Matpat didn't mention, if you knew enough about the lore and/or read the books you would realize that assuming that William murdered only 4 children is quite unfounded when it is mentioned again and again in all the books and games that there were 5 missing children. Not to mention the continuity errors in the timeline, it is much more plausible to assume that sister location occurred after fnanf 4 and before fnaf 2 and that is the reason why Michel has "bad odor"
@@alejocardenas3773 i agree it isnt perfect and at the end of the day only you can choose whats narratively satisfying. but as an entire story/solution to fnaf as a whole this is one of the most satisfying theories. (referencing timeline theories as a whole) i kinda cleaned some things up from this theory that make more sense from a game only perspective in my head but you cant get everything right.
1:44:38 i also think this part can be read as “they didn’t recognize me at first- but then, they thought i was you”. not as two separate thoughts, but michael calling out his father’s purposeful use of michael as a stand in for himself. like: they didn’t recognize me at first, but, well, we both know they thought i was you.
Also the “they thought I was you” part feels like it has a tone of realisation, and almost shock. Like Michael is just now realising his father’s intentions to send him down there as sacrifice to save his own ass.
how dare you drop this. I am a NURSING MAJOR, let me have a CHANCE at studying like an adult.
It's your own fault for going into nursing instead of fnafology smh
I've literally never had so many "holy shit" moments in my life so condensed, insane work.
honestly i love this version so much more, narrative-wise. the vengeful spirit being michael instead of some random kid just fits way better imo. amazing video.
And just like that, peace and order is restored, and golden freddy is crying child like he was always supposed to be
..Until the Fire Nation attacked…
FINALLY, someone says it. Like, bro is part of the Afton family. How could he NOT possess anything and instead a random kid taking his place?
@@THE_END.ヽIt's really not that much of a difference, William and Michael never really possessed anything because they weren't dead, William's heartbeat can be heard in FFPS and he's noted many times to have just fused with the suit, Michael on the otherhand would have died because of remnant and his fatal body condition if it wasn't for Elizabeth giving a part of herself to him to keep him alive, speaking of Elizabeth, Elizabeth was practically shattered amongst the funtimes and only really got to possess baby as Ennard and Scrap baby, Mrs. Afton suicided, and BV... Possessed Fredbear
"The Spirit follows the flesh, it would seem, and also the *Pain* "
@AlfaresAnas I know, I mention that because there's still many people who believe he didn't possess anything and that only the VS is inside Golden Freddy. But eihter way, what I also meant with my comment is that as part of the Afton family, he should have an important role in the story.
i thought we always knew he crying child possessed him, its just we threw another spirit in there as well
this is the type of things that go on in the girls bathroom and people dont even realize because they dont listen in well enough
.... Why would we listen to what happens in the toilets?
@@Dante02d12 i mean like theres so many voices since girls are filmig tiktoks and stuff you dont realize amongst those voices theres literally fnaf theorists
@@mzitz Don't mind me buddy, I was just kidding ^^. When you take it out of context, "listening to girls toilets" sounds creepy, lol.
@@Dante02d12 yeah it does lmao i was sleepy when i wrote that i think
So William puts his child in a box and, not knowing what to do at the moment, buries it behind his house, until he can figure everything out.
"Some things are best left forgotten, for now..." indeed.
holy shit that’s explains everything
It also explains why Scott didn’t want to open the box imagine the pixelated gore. Also people would be like why is there a bloody body
WAIT- I have more evidence of Balloon Boy being a lure. In FNaF World, the first clock you interact with, you push a silhouette of Balloon Boy into a box, however, that box is also used for pushing a Springbonnie silhouette in as well. The idea of BB being a lure is quite convincing now. Basically, William lured the kids into the safe room, using BB.
This!! Also, in the Chica School Years, when she's speaking about Pigpatch, she says Ballon Boy in her excuse! He's totally a lure/distraction!
Wait.... Isn't he made out of wood said by matpat about the Wood Carver's. There's just voicebox inside of him? If so then William just need to put Balloon Boy in one of the party rooms especially the one that is near to the parts and service. But I could understand if I'm wrong ok?
@@Icy-zk9rh Unconfirmed (like everything) but yes, there is a likelihood that BB is a wooden animatronic.
@@Charliehotdog79 Yeah, It's definitely not confirm and it is likely. Also didn't matpat said something about him "not an animatronic"?.
@@Icy-zk9rh Not everything he says is entirely valid, he isn't Scott.
This theory explains Midnight Motorist so PERFECTLY. Cassidy Afton being dead at this point and trying to make Michael find him explains the ending with the broken window and Fredbear's footprints cleanly. As to the person watching TV, it could very well be Elizabeth who's alive at this point. And the fact it's backed up by the movie? They COOKED
Elizabeth has green eyes so it definitely can't be her 😭
Ehhhhhh idk, I still don’t like they idea of this weird orange guy being Afton. Why didn’t they just make it purple? I like the theory that this is one of the missing kids getting abducted. Following the orange guy shows us their dad is a drunk asshole, making the kid a vulnerable mark. Afton probably dressed up as Springtrap and lured the kid away to kill them. It makes sense to me more this way. If orange guy was purple guy, wouldn’t he recognize the footprints of his own machines? And within the missing children incident, it makes sense that not all the kids went missing while in Freddys. Think about it, after the first two or three, Freddys would be super sus and get investigated. Instead, I think it’s a small enough town that Afton can figure out where certain children live and lure them away from home or wherever. Anyway, just my two cents there. We can still assume that Golden Freddy/CC is trying to reach out to his brother, just maybe not in this scene.
Honestly it doesn't make much sense, if Michael was going to the one place that could reveal he was guilty William would have been more worried
@@four_girls_in_search_of_awesomThat makes a lot of sense.
@@four_girls_in_search_of_awesom I guess it's a matter of wether you believe more in "Later that night shows a connection to Charlie's death, so it must be Afton" and "guy is orange and not purple, so it must not be Afton". Both arguments are solid and have ways to add context to them, but I like how the theory gave the greatest context to the first I've ever heard.
I always interpreted the "multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures" line to mean multiple spring lock failures in the same suit, with each spring lock inside the suit being referred to as it's own mechanical failure which is how it would probably be described if it were to happen in reality. Also, great video!
That actually makes more sense!
that's.. exactly what's implied??
i had no idea there was even another way to interpret that
@@ArmundJay they are referring to how in the video they theorize that two different people suffered from the spring lock failures. Basically saying it as two different suits failed within a few days of each other.
the amount of times i said “no fucking way”, “oh my fucking god”, and “holy fucking shit” while watching this is insane. this interpretation is so poetic and i love it so much
Same.
I felt like I was turning into PyroLIVE with each revelation. (Slop-tuber mentioned!?!??!)