Hunting for 12+ years. Harvested many deer wearing all kinds of clothes. I have blown my cover 9/10 over scent and movement, which plays a much bigger role than camo pattern.
Agreed been hunt for 20 years 21 this season and when I grew up hunting it was jeans an flannels 😂 jus play the wind I'm not saying camo an scent blockers don't help they do jus not needed
You are right to a point, but effective camouflage doesn't necessarily blend in with surroundings, it makes the wearer look like something other than a person wearing camouflage. As far as making something look like mother nature, it is difficult to make a two dimensional pattern look like a three dimensional forest, unless your deer are wearing 3-D glasses instead of NVGs. This is why Ghillie suits are so effective. They are 3D, not 2D
My pap killed tons of deer wearing blue dickies and plaid shirts. Think about that next time youre swimming in scent blocker and wearing $800 camouflaging.
Joe. Yep. People always go on about deer seeing blue. Ive worn blue jeans deer hunting for years. Now I wouldn't wear the brown carhartt here in PA cuz the idiots here would shoot you under suspicion, even with a blaze orange vest
I've had deer come in look right at me and run off. Also had them not see me but smell me, get nervous and run off. I've also shot at deer and they stood there and looked at then kept eating. It depends on the deer really
I used to hunt in solid colors of green and brown work clothing. However, what I also used to do was slowly and quietly, use piles of the native pine straw as a type of improvised camouflage barrier to hide behind or under at the base of a tree.
I believe the most important , is a good background that you can blend in with. If you have cedar trees or pine in your area I think they are a great background, especially sitting in a stand. Just my opinion.
As someone who hunts, or used to quite a bit. I can tell you that deer don't care about camouflage. If anything it's movement, quick movement to be exact. I've sat with hunters decked out in the latest high tech camo and have gotten more deer than them with whatever was warm plus my orange. It's the movement deer freak out about
After watching dozens of similar videos, I've concluded that as long as you don't wear glowing high-UV colors that they can "see," any decent camo appropriate for the terrain that breaks up your profile will work, if you have the wind in your face, stand still, and don't stink from that chorizo sausage breakfast you just had you may get lucky. OK . . .I'm on a budget and can only afford generic off-the-rack hunt gear.
We have 41 of them in our back yard ... Just point in the general direction! Well, make that 40, my garbage man hit one with his truck this week! Damn things must be deaf and color blind!
I was wondering why the two did not seem very different, then you said deer colorvision is like someone who is red green colorblind and it all made sense.
I have a Sitka vest and pants and wear a real tree under armor sweatshirt and I think the combination of the Sitka and the real tree works great for elk
I don't know if all states require the bright orange vests but they are required where im from. Wouldn't the vest negate any camouflage texture anyway?
But it does help. Natives used Camo and smoke as cover to hunt. I’ve killed deer in blue jeans and a tshirt. But Camo made them not even LOOK at me. Making them as relaxed as possible.
So much depends on your stand set-up. If you are in the shadows and your form is broke up by tree limbs, etc., you can wear almost anything and not be seen.
Just save your time and money on all of that fancy pricey camo, weapons and just drive a big loud vehicle of any size or color at them for guaranteed results.
My great aunt once made me a jump suit w/ a greenish/tan, smaller lines camo pattern. it was so good, the first time I used it, a deer came up to me to sniff. I had to wait for him to walk away to have room to lift my bow. That suit was stolen but I use a brownish football pattern shirt that is invisible. I ground hunt and was 10 feet away the other day. breakup your pattern, keep to browns and greens mix (usually), use some skunk scent or doe urine an you're in business!
I've been using the Marines Digital pattern and the Army's Multicam pattern, swapping out shirts and pants to help break up my outline....and I'm experimenting with dye's on these patterns also. If I ever get it nailed down, I'll produce it! :)
Tom Bailey oh yeah... if I manage to come up with a pattern that works well (and has the correct color blend from a deer's perspective) I'll certainly post it. I've always been intrigued by camouflage, and the idea of a "Mostly" universal pattern, that would reflect it's surroundings. I would definitely buy this Opti-Fade camo...but I've never seen it in stores...?
At first I was like.. but both pictures are equally as hard to see the hunter. Then they said 'much like a person with red green colour blindness' and it all made sense
I'm colorblind, and can pick out a camouflaged man from a couple hundred feet. Contrary to what is stated in this video, Camo is highlighted and stands out from the background, especially digital. Certain artificial colorings have a tendency to almost glow to me. This is not unheard of, colorblind lookouts have often been used by the military of various countrys to spot camouflaged bunkers.
Well, it really doesn't make sense if you think about it, deer are looking at an actual object, then it's brain deciphers what it sees, if you digitize the object, it will see the same object in an unnatural way therefore making it more suspicious,
Where I'm from, if you're wearing more than one article of camo while hunting you're considered a homo. Dude's who deck themselves in camo are considered beginners or tryhards. It's like those middle aged men who have an entire skin tight suit and sunglasses for their evening bicycle ride. Geeks.
Do It For The Ride I've always worn normal drab colors, as far as I've experienced deer don't care about what you look like just what you smell and sound like.
ASAT works the best. After breaking both ankles and my back, I bow hunt from the ground now and have just as good if not better success as when I hunted in trees. The beauty of ASAT is that I don't have to hide behind trees and brush to conceal myself. I am hid in the open woods giving me better shot opportunities. Deer look right at me and never see me. ASAT truly works.
You realize people hunt other animals than deer right? Coyotes for example have much better vision than deer. And camo does help for deer even if it isn't absolutely necessary. Especially for bow hunting where you have to be much closer to the animal
@@cobain2261 sure. But it doesn't change the fact that camo is overpriced and is for making the companies big money. Tons of hunters wear their camo for the fashion statement. They are proud to show off their $400 sitka shirt. Hunters have been killing animals, all animals for many decades, hell, centuries, without all the stuff available today. And stealth does not require camo.
Digital camo makes sense. But, doesn’t “going one step further by tuning the camo to the deer’s eye” (ie pre-converting the camo to Minecraft FOR the deer) suggest a deer’s eye otherwise converts actual visual surroundings into a Minecraft scene while, at the same time, pictures of a similar tree painted onto camo are magically immune to that? I’m probably missing something here.
would you like to know what's really funny? I personally am an avid bow hunter. I am conscience always of being in camo and scent locked BUT, in Illinois, during specific gun hunt seasons, archery hunt must wear 400 sw inches of blaze orange plus a orange cap. I still take deer from the same stands, the same timber in high vis apparel
Being in a stand you're still less likely to be seen up high unless the deer catches you in peripheral vision or comes off a hill in line with you somehow. I've taken deer in blaze orange from less than 30 yards away, but I've also scared off deer in blaze orange at longer distances.
exactly true, countless thousands, tens of thousands of deer have been taken by hunters with blaze orange plastered all over them. scent and movement are the real giveaways!
Same as in Wisconsin. I'm true to anything Mossy Oak for bowhunting, when I hunt threw the gun, muzzleloader and t-zone ( if we have it ) I have to wear a blaze vest an hat, the rule here is we have to be minimum of 35% hi- vis from the waist up. An I still fill tags every year, from the base of a tree, or a stand it doesn't matter.... It's mostly about movement, or lack of rather.
Bullshit! How do you train a deer to do a vision test? I had a deer come 10 yards from me while I was wearing multicam. I even moved to see if she would spook but it didn't notice me. It heard a noise but that was all. So once I realized it wasn't afraid by my movement I reached for my bow and a fawn came out from behind her so I didn't have the heart to shoot. I sat there and watched them until just before dark, they walked away. Now, I think mossy oak and real tree might have worked in the same situation but, I'm not positive. I agree with the people who say if your camo looks like nature, how can the deer see you.
If your hiding in brown wearing brown and you match then it doesn't matter cause if they see brown as grey than you are still matching cause they see you hiding in grey wearing grey
Doesn’t matter. When you enter the woods you are in the deer’s home. They know what’s supposed to be there and what doesn’t. I’ve had the best luck when it’s cold, wet and in the rut! Any other time is basically rolling the dice. Unless, of course, you bait em!😜
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what if some deers are color blind? what if they're just super critical of certain colors and just choose to ignore their existance like highschool mean girls?
By far the most impressive thing in this video to me is that someone trained a deer to take a vision test.
Best Camo: Stay Still!!!!!!!! It’s all about limiting your movement
If I wear digital camouflage I can live my whole life in 144p
I love the idea of the dear doing an eye test lol
Hunting for 12+ years. Harvested many deer wearing all kinds of clothes. I have blown my cover 9/10 over scent and movement, which plays a much bigger role than camo pattern.
Yes camo plaus a smaller role, but it is still a role. Don't be a fool and underestimate the importance of camo for serious hunters.
How to do deal with the scent problem?
If you actually hunt on the ground or not in a blind camo plays a major role.
Agreed been hunt for 20 years 21 this season and when I grew up hunting it was jeans an flannels 😂 jus play the wind I'm not saying camo an scent blockers don't help they do jus not needed
How the fuck do you teach a bunch of deer how to do an eye test 😂😂
Brazen Bull wigga we are the kings of the animal kingdom
Brazen Bull Most probably with shapes and food.
dont be a racist, animals are human to.
i just asked a 10 pointer how well he could see. he said his 'deerovision' gets sorta cloudy with his deer goggles on
As a red-green color blind person this was a very difficult video to understand
You are right to a point, but effective camouflage doesn't necessarily blend in with surroundings, it makes the wearer look like something other than a person wearing camouflage. As far as making something look like mother nature, it is difficult to make a two dimensional pattern look like a three dimensional forest, unless your deer are wearing 3-D glasses instead of NVGs. This is why Ghillie suits are so effective. They are 3D, not 2D
My pap killed tons of deer wearing blue dickies and plaid shirts. Think about that next time youre swimming in scent blocker and wearing $800 camouflaging.
i agree ive worn a brown coat and blue jeans and sat up aginst a tree and had deer at 20 yards
Joe. Yep. People always go on about deer seeing blue. Ive worn blue jeans deer hunting for years. Now I wouldn't wear the brown carhartt here in PA cuz the idiots here would shoot you under suspicion, even with a blaze orange vest
First deer I drilled was on a hot Michigan day in October. My clothes? Khaki shorts and a blue polo shirt with sneakers, in a tree stand 20 feet up.
I've had deer come in look right at me and run off. Also had them not see me but smell me, get nervous and run off. I've also shot at deer and they stood there and looked at then kept eating. It depends on the deer really
blue dickies? well, just how many smurfs did he kill?
I used to hunt in solid colors of green and brown work clothing. However, what I also used to do was slowly and quietly, use piles of the native pine straw as a type of improvised camouflage barrier to hide behind or under at the base of a tree.
Deer take a eye test ...slap me silly
Might have been better able to spot the hunter in the last frame if the quality was higher than 360p lol.
been trying to test this idea myself
I believe the most important , is a good background that you can blend in with. If you have cedar trees or pine in your area
I think they are a great background, especially sitting in a stand. Just my opinion.
Being in a pine tree is great- but if you trim branches they bleed that gd sap all over everything.
As someone who hunts, or used to quite a bit. I can tell you that deer don't care about camouflage. If anything it's movement, quick movement to be exact. I've sat with hunters decked out in the latest high tech camo and have gotten more deer than them with whatever was warm plus my orange. It's the movement deer freak out about
How does this camo. Compare to predetor or asat camo.
Based on the great Doctor Grant . Deer vision is like the t Rex.
"Keep absolutely still. .. It's vision is based on movent."
Deer see movement extremely well. If you don't move, you don't need super good camo. Look at what hunters used to use.
depends on your area
After watching dozens of similar videos, I've concluded that as long as you don't wear glowing high-UV colors that they can "see," any decent camo appropriate for the terrain that breaks up your profile will work, if you have the wind in your face, stand still, and don't stink from that chorizo sausage breakfast you just had you may get lucky. OK . . .I'm on a budget and can only afford generic off-the-rack hunt gear.
Would the deer be able to spot our outline and what not better because it’s colorblind ?
We have 41 of them in our back yard ... Just point in the general direction!
Well, make that 40, my garbage man hit one with his truck this week! Damn things must be deaf and color blind!
I was wondering why the two did not seem very different, then you said deer colorvision is like someone who is red green colorblind and it all made sense.
You should worry about smell and sound.
I do like digital disruption patterns though.
I have a Sitka vest and pants and wear a real tree under armor sweatshirt and I think the combination of the Sitka and the real tree works great for elk
I don't know if all states require the bright orange vests but they are required where im from. Wouldn't the vest negate any camouflage texture anyway?
Ethan Lehman Deer if not most animals can't see blaze orange as well as we can, thus it doesn't change much.
Wait wait wait! They tested deers with colorblind tests?
The hunting industry doesn’t want you to know you don’t have to wear camo to kill deer
But it does help. Natives used Camo and smoke as cover to hunt. I’ve killed deer in blue jeans and a tshirt. But Camo made them not even LOOK at me. Making them as relaxed as possible.
So much depends on your stand set-up. If you are in the shadows and your form is broke up by tree limbs, etc., you can wear almost anything and not be seen.
try it on mule deer or elk, you wont get within 1000 yards...
Just save your time and money on all of that fancy pricey camo, weapons and just drive a big loud vehicle of any size or color at them for guaranteed results.
@@parkert2710im calling bs. Been hiking and basically ran into them sumbitchs.
My great aunt once made me a jump suit w/ a greenish/tan, smaller lines camo pattern. it was so good, the first time I used it, a deer came up to me to sniff. I had to wait for him to walk away to have room to lift my bow. That suit was stolen but I use a brownish football pattern shirt that is invisible. I ground hunt and was 10 feet away the other day. breakup your pattern, keep to browns and greens mix (usually), use some skunk scent or doe urine an you're in business!
Do you have any pictures
What's a brown football pattern shirt mean
I've been using the Marines Digital pattern and the Army's Multicam pattern, swapping out shirts and pants to help break up my outline....and I'm experimenting with dye's on these patterns also. If I ever get it nailed down, I'll produce it! :)
The digital is good stuff for sure.
I look forward to seeing what you come up with when you get the bugs worked out.
Tom Bailey oh yeah... if I manage to come up with a pattern that works well (and has the correct color blend from a deer's perspective) I'll certainly post it.
I've always been intrigued by camouflage, and the idea of a "Mostly" universal pattern, that would reflect it's surroundings.
I would definitely buy this Opti-Fade camo...but I've never seen it in stores...?
twal1770 UCP with different dyes looks good for different environments.
Alright it’s been 9 years. Tell me what to do with my old cammies 😂
I think I will stay with my trusty m81 or ERDL surp camo
They can see ultra violet. So detergents or clothes with UV brighteners in them glow but we can't see it.
At first I was like.. but both pictures are equally as hard to see the hunter. Then they said 'much like a person with red green colour blindness' and it all made sense
How do you eye test a deer?
I'm colorblind, and can pick out a camouflaged man from a couple hundred feet. Contrary to what is stated in this video, Camo is highlighted and stands out from the background, especially digital. Certain artificial colorings have a tendency to almost glow to me. This is not unheard of, colorblind lookouts have often been used by the military of various countrys to spot camouflaged bunkers.
We Already Know That Colorblind Ppl Can See Camouflage Better. It's Highlighted & Stands Out to 'You' Because of That Reason
I'm in the army and this is partially why we switched back to a blotched style camo instead of digital.
C. Bone yeah that was dumb as shit
Actually... we actually don't allow colour blind soldiers in our infantry... but nice attempt trying to be a super human though.
nad yerp We used to though. Up until the late 80's
Well, it really doesn't make sense if you think about it, deer are looking at an actual object, then it's brain deciphers what it sees, if you digitize the object, it will see the same object in an unnatural way therefore making it more suspicious,
2:33 they added in a outline
Ive killed several deer while wearing blue jeans and a tan carhart coat
Where I'm from, if you're wearing more than one article of camo while hunting you're considered a homo. Dude's who deck themselves in camo are considered beginners or tryhards. It's like those middle aged men who have an entire skin tight suit and sunglasses for their evening bicycle ride. Geeks.
GJ Brown NC pines and a few hardwood thickets but yes I hike in and kill deer in blue jeans
Do It For The Ride yeah people are always going on about deer seeing blue. But I've been hunting them in blue jeans for years.
Do It For The Ride
I've always worn normal drab colors, as far as I've experienced deer don't care about what you look like just what you smell and sound like.
Apparently they can't smell, see, or hear my 56,000lb Peterbilt truck and trailer either.
ASAT works the best. After breaking both ankles and my back, I bow hunt from the ground now and have just as good if not better success as when I hunted in trees. The beauty of ASAT is that I don't have to hide behind trees and brush to conceal myself. I am hid in the open woods giving me better shot opportunities. Deer look right at me and never see me. ASAT truly works.
Multicam
halfstep67 if u fell from the tree and broke ur back i wouldnt define that as successful lol
Hey cool video thanks!
hay jim is that bow floating
“...helps you blend in...”
(Shows UCP)
Why I outta...
They got Louis from Beastars to do the vision test... 😅 😂 🤣
Hunters did just fine wearing the good ol red and black plaid jacket. Today's "high-tech" camo is to catch the buyer and separate them from their $$$.
You realize people hunt other animals than deer right? Coyotes for example have much better vision than deer. And camo does help for deer even if it isn't absolutely necessary. Especially for bow hunting where you have to be much closer to the animal
@@cobain2261 sure. But it doesn't change the fact that camo is overpriced and is for making the companies big money. Tons of hunters wear their camo for the fashion statement. They are proud to show off their $400 sitka shirt.
Hunters have been killing animals, all animals for many decades, hell, centuries, without all the stuff available today.
And stealth does not require camo.
Digital camo makes sense. But, doesn’t “going one step further by tuning the camo to the deer’s eye” (ie pre-converting the camo to Minecraft FOR the deer) suggest a deer’s eye otherwise converts actual visual surroundings into a Minecraft scene while, at the same time, pictures of a similar tree painted onto camo are magically immune to that? I’m probably missing something here.
how did you know if the deer could see it?
Been using this pattern for years-it works.
Best camo?
Maybe the camo that blends with the background?
It is like wearing camouflage in the dark. You can wear black or you can wear the camo that matches the background.
As long as you blend in with the forest you won't be spotted because the forest and you look the same.
@rebelwolf72 ha ha i agree. only the deer with eyes that are sensitive to the sunlight are issued night vision.
What if I'm hunting wabbits? Asking for a fwend.
They are kinda like the T. rex in Jurassic park, hold still and they won’t notice you, they see you, but don’t really recognize you to be a human
Deers already gotta deal with being shot, now they gotta deal with being shot by invisible people.
It's nice being colorblind; I wouldn't be able to see the difference if the narrator did not mention anything.
the way this guy says pattern is terrifying
MOSTLY THEY USED MILITARY CAMO , I DIDNT SEE ANT ASAT CAMO IN THER.
Deer see in 360p!? God have mercy
I identify as a deer. I was not surveyed in this production. DLM
Is this STIVE from GMM? Love that woman!
Haha it totally sounds like Stevie!
wait wait HE MADE DIGITAL CAMO holy shit i gotta tell my friends back at the tree club HOO HOO
Mossy Oak Greenleaf & Realtree Original seem decent enough for me
wait.. how exactly do you train a deer to take a vision test ???? lol
seems i have the same crappy vision as deer then
Now desember 2020
no the canadian military adapted Cadpat camo because it its more effective
Guess Fred Bear was just lucky? After all, he wore red flannel and buckskin pants.
0:31
That voice...
Is that Cyanide from ZF clan?!
Holy shit cyanide
Wonder if anyone found out the color blind from that test it popped up?
then why dosent anyone use it..? there are no companys that use digital camouflage ... for deer any ways as far as clothing goes..
Oh deer.
would you like to know what's really funny? I personally am an avid bow hunter. I am conscience always of being in camo and scent locked BUT, in Illinois, during specific gun hunt seasons, archery hunt must wear 400 sw inches of blaze orange plus a orange cap. I still take deer from the same stands, the same timber in high vis apparel
Being in a stand you're still less likely to be seen up high unless the deer catches you in peripheral vision or comes off a hill in line with you somehow. I've taken deer in blaze orange from less than 30 yards away, but I've also scared off deer in blaze orange at longer distances.
exactly true, countless thousands, tens of thousands of deer have been taken by hunters with blaze orange plastered all over them. scent and movement are the real giveaways!
Same as in Wisconsin. I'm true to anything Mossy Oak for bowhunting, when I hunt threw the gun, muzzleloader and t-zone ( if we have it ) I have to wear a blaze vest an hat, the rule here is we have to be minimum of 35% hi- vis from the waist up. An I still fill tags every year, from the base of a tree, or a stand it doesn't matter.... It's mostly about movement, or lack of rather.
B.s. I ware a old Dpm feild jacket and a acts au unifrom pants and coat .
Bullshit! How do you train a deer to do a vision test? I had a deer come 10 yards from me while I was wearing multicam. I even moved to see if she would spook but it didn't notice me. It heard a noise but that was all. So once I realized it wasn't afraid by my movement I reached for my bow and a fawn came out from behind her so I didn't have the heart to shoot. I sat there and watched them until just before dark, they walked away. Now, I think mossy oak and real tree might have worked in the same situation but, I'm not positive. I agree with the people who say if your camo looks like nature, how can the deer see you.
my dad had a deer walk up behind him and sniff his shirt as he was standing still wearing nothing but a pair of blue jeans and a plaid flannel shirt
John Zent Flannel is an excellent camouflage.
Tyler j
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Multicam is hard to beat, if only they came in quality fabrics!
If your hiding in brown wearing brown and you match then it doesn't matter cause if they see brown as grey than you are still matching cause they see you hiding in grey wearing grey
Can’t you just wear OD green
ASAT!
all life deer eat grass and not see grass color variations?
Negor bat
Deers eat tree leaves not grass.
leaves green too. or i'm wrong?
Thought deer was blind 🦌👀 wow
Well, turns out I'm colorblind... so I got that going for me.
How can both be more important
Is that Cyanide on the phone?
gold camo, neon camo wts
Doesn’t matter. When you enter the woods you are in the deer’s home. They know what’s supposed to be there and what doesn’t. I’ve had the best luck when it’s cold, wet and in the rut! Any other time is basically rolling the dice. Unless, of course, you bait em!😜
How tf did they train deer for vision tests? Lmao
where is all the quality
This video is from 2008. This is some good quality for that year, gotta admit.
How the fuck do you make a deer sit still long enough to give them a vision test
Still kills. Blue jeans and an Army field jacket works peachy. I fill my freezer every year like that.
good to see they did the job properly, haha
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orange vests are fine, camoflauge isnt needed
I mean those aren't even Tier 3 deer, Those bucks have gen 4 PVS-15s.
train an elk for dmv
elusion camo has the most advanced pattern technology, and it defeats the visual acuity of all birds and animala !
Almost as good as multicam or ATACS-FG
Hasn't been tested yet 🤔 nuff said 🤦🏿♂️
what if some deers are color blind? what if they're just super critical of certain colors and just choose to ignore their existance like highschool mean girls?
Nah you know... They migth not see it. but the have a better responses to movement.
I have had deer walk by me standing still wearing solid blaze orange within 10 yards. Sounds like a gimmick to me
use ghillie suits. look like a bush !!!
I don't get camo when hunting. Most types of hunting seem to have you wear a neon orange vest on, which kinda ruins the camouflage.