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  • @peashooter._
    @peashooter._ 4 роки тому +78

    Why does William always look at the camera like you just stole his yogurt out the shared fridge

  • @nzrockboi
    @nzrockboi 5 років тому +57

    Firstly, thank u to the presenters for being so efficiently fluent in both English and Maori. Secondly, my own experiences being Maori in NZ have placed me where I never want to be seen separately, or given freely, something my non Maori friends and family cannot get. I never want to be seen as different to them

    • @aarohaa2008
      @aarohaa2008 Рік тому

      What you want and what you get are two different things. And whether you think it's true or not, you are treated differently than they are, it seems like you have been disconnected to your culture and ignorant about the history of this country. What things are we given freely that our Treaty Partners don't get? Maybe your need to go back to school and learn your history darling.

    • @fu8713
      @fu8713 Рік тому

      Don’t talk kaka you sound like a weak fool lol I take all your shiit and send you to the Chatham Islands lol ✊✊

    • @richardmatatahi4563
      @richardmatatahi4563 7 місяців тому +3

      Think maori wanted to be looked upon as Equals & a Partnership concerning Trade with the English, but in some references to the New Zealand Company were selling Maori Land back in England before they even arrived in New Zealand which was news to Maori that led to conflict. The English thought themselves to be above all other people and Maori were scammed by the English. Who then gave themselves the authority and completely disregarded the Maori version of the Treaty of Waitangi because the Maori would come under the protection of the British Crown and have the same rights & privileges as a British citizen.
      As more British subjects arrived more land was needed and Maori tribes who didn't sign the Treaty, their land Confiscated that started the New Zealand Wars. It was a betrayal, Maori did not have the same rights or privileges as the English in fact it was thought Maori would die off, and many were dying from the imported Chicken pox the White settlers who brought it with them and they were simply forgotten.
      Today this National led Coalition think Maori have no say in anything connected to the land such as any Natural Resources they want to produce, find, or make including producing Hydrogen which one NZ1st MP thinks has nothing to do with Maori and he calls himself a Maori. Some members in Government should stop cutting Maori out of the conversation. Think long and hard about the processes they undertake without considering the consequences, to people & environment.
      I must add as a clean source of Energy I don't have a problem with Hydrogen but the way Government think Maori should sit down without consultation and follow their lead. From a Government Coalition who want to dismantle Maori involvement, and cut ties at local Government to return the same failed policies, I voted them out for.

    • @delushgfsg8957
      @delushgfsg8957 22 години тому

      @@richardmatatahi4563 oh earlier Europeans were superior and now Maori's want to be superior? what are you talking about mate, if Those Europeans were bad then make it simple, equal rights to everyone not special right's for any other race. why you have double standards?

  • @chriskeentechnician
    @chriskeentechnician 4 роки тому +43

    Fantastic video guys! Annoyed that I was never taught any of this back in school, but grateful for all the resources available today. Had to have a laugh at laser Kiwi 😜

  • @phananh958
    @phananh958 9 місяців тому +2

    nice video guys. I always watch this before I go to bed because it helps me to sleep faster

  • @jholmzjholmz6592
    @jholmzjholmz6592 3 роки тому +7

    Forgotten to mention how Edward Jerningham Wakefield, son of Col Edward Wakefield and three ship's surgeons, tended to the bodies of the wounded, extracting bullets, binding wounds and setting broken bones the very next day after the tribal Battle of Waikanae in October 1839.

  • @jonathantepairi2664
    @jonathantepairi2664 9 місяців тому +4

    Being maori,i have longed for maori,governance ,however as time as gone by ,,,,, myself being 70 years old ,have changed my mind ,,,i think we need a reciprocal governance as over the last 200 years we have all but assimilated into western society,and vice versa ,as a young man i had hoped maori voice would be heard ,i had hoped that we would get laws that rewarded maori and have been so disappointed only a system of reciprocal governance will work as maori pakeha and foreigners alike have become a large part of intergrated racial family life of aotearoa new zealand ,,,fin a lly my last point being two governing factions cannot be allowed as it sets a double standard ,i'm not sure how reciprocal governace will work but I'm sure there are clever politicians who could weork it out

    • @onionman5727
      @onionman5727 9 місяців тому +2

      Thank you. I agree, reciprocal government is the best way forward, and i hope and think that the majority of kiwis share this spirit of thought. But sorry, i may not agree with your last statement - clever politicians all seem too tricky for me 🤭. Let's hope and pray for leaders who have the best interests of all of us at heart, instead of trying to push us into divided waring camps (racists, disgruntalists, marxists, WEF globalists etc) - i long for another the like of Labours M.J.Savage, who, unlike the party's last lovely elected PM, fostered a type of social capitalism that didn't put our country (further) into debt. Forgetting my 🤭, i do acknowledge the work that some politicians have done to help resuscitate things Maori since Whina Cooper's brave walk, and especially am thankful for the Waitangi Tribunal and Maori Television. Now, if the Education system will teach true history to our youngsters as it ought, i believe us good old men will breathe sweetly, and i can't think of a first teaching tool better than this one we have had the pleasure of watching, (with the stack of books on the desk included for deeper study; and also the Bible, which brought personal enlightenment and dramatic positive change to this land both by the Maori who adopted the way of the gospel of life, and the leaders like Joe Savage who were guided in their work by the Prince of Peace Himself)

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 2 місяці тому +2

      Speaking as someone with Maori ancestry, reciprocal government will never happen in NZ. It will never be tolerated, and you now have a government that hints what is going to happen.
      Maori governance must occur, or Parliament will complete its destruction of our existence at some point. If the Foreshore and Seabed is not a deal breaker for you, then what will it be, when Parliament has been that blatant?
      If you do not care about this, then your mokopuna will not.
      No matter the age, all Maori must care about what is happening, because things as bad as they have been, can easily get much, much worse than they ever have been before.

    • @delushgfsg8957
      @delushgfsg8957 22 години тому

      Yes this is madness and will lead to destruction of civilization. Were Maori's good people? they ate each other according to the history right? so why they try to victimize them self's now? thanks to European, they are living without fear and killing and eating each other. They never had any Culture unless cannibalism count as a culture 😀 New Zealand is not under UK anymore and those treaties should not apply now and everyone should have the same right and democracy should work not tribes agenda that will lead to kill each other.

  • @amirabile6338
    @amirabile6338 2 роки тому +13

    I am doing an assignment on Indigenous peoples in Australia and was comparing treaties with the indigenous peoples in Canada, USA, New Zealand and lack of it here in Australia. This video was interesting :)

    • @hira4369
      @hira4369 Рік тому

      What they said in this video is absolute bullshit.

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому +2

      The Aboriginines were not in a position to be able to demand any treaty or treaties between them and the British. but the atrocities deal out to them of genocide was truly shocking.

    • @bennichols1113
      @bennichols1113 Рік тому

      Everyone is indigenous to somewhere.

  • @homebyme6262
    @homebyme6262 3 роки тому +4

    this is the best show ever and hi i also go to northcross and i'm lucas

  • @MyEntertainmentChannel
    @MyEntertainmentChannel 5 років тому +12

    This podcast series is fascinating, and this particular episode helped me to better understand what the Legion Wargames board game 'Maori Wars: The New Zealand Land Wars 1845 - 1872' by John Poniske depicts.

  • @turangatohiariki3042
    @turangatohiariki3042 3 місяці тому +2

    How much respect DIFFRENT CULTURED PEOPLE HAD FOR MAORI AFTER COLONISATION

  • @taleeugh
    @taleeugh 11 днів тому +2

    Sending this to everyone I know in 2024

  • @caron-leeratima1835
    @caron-leeratima1835 4 роки тому +20

    Hi He whakaputanga took place which should be shared also. Are we still trying to keep this a secret? It would be great if it and you could do an episode of this declaration.

    • @caron-leeratima1835
      @caron-leeratima1835 4 роки тому

      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Tribes_of_New_Zealand

    • @psyconwill
      @psyconwill 3 роки тому +11

      Exactly, this video is misleading Te tiriti o waitangi is not the founding document/contract of Nui Tireni it is He Whakaputanga!

    • @haydykat
      @haydykat 2 роки тому

      Tika tāu.

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 10 місяців тому

      I understand it was drawn up by James Busby for Independence from warring tribes under the Mission Station St George's Cross flag under God. Remember, 90% of Maori became Christians.

    • @viribadillo5783
      @viribadillo5783 10 днів тому

      @@psyconwillhi I’m trying to educate myself on this treaty but ik there’s so much sugarcoating on things. Any suggestions?

  • @ivandinsmore6217
    @ivandinsmore6217 2 роки тому +4

    The way he says "I'm William Ray" sounds so sinister.

  • @TepouRaukawakawa
    @TepouRaukawakawa Рік тому +6

    He whakaputanga is the most important document. Te tiriti is second most powerful document in the world.

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 10 місяців тому +1

      No, Magna Carta is the Constitution for Commonwealth Countries sorry about that and anyone can lawfully enact it anytime if Govt goes rogue!

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 10 місяців тому

      BTW most Chiefs spoke English and they wanted the Salvation. Why don't you quote the Treaty Chiefs? Everyone needs to read Kohimarama Conference records, you are cherry picking anti white rhetoric you have no idea you're not even realising aotearoa was not even in the Treaty! Lies lies lies! The final draft was lost but found in 1989 so this is the problem with using the wrong draft pfft. You are not educated in truth at all! The version Waitangi Tribunal uses is a rogue James Freeman version as there were many drafts so your so called teaching is wrong!

  • @karenmetz4500
    @karenmetz4500 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you, there's an earlier document that's kept hidden, which must be addressed 1st,that is "The Declaration of Independence 1835. The United Tribes are aware of this. Please research it as it is significant and relevant as is the" Treaty of Waitangi 1840".these two historical documents are the most important for all the people of AOTEAROA in 2022.🙏😇God bless Aotearoa. 💝🌏🕊️❤️💎🎇🗝️

    • @michelleripia8146
      @michelleripia8146 2 роки тому

      Great point in bringing this to the publics attention.

    • @stevenstuart1442
      @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому

      @@michelleripia8146 and read my post above.........

  • @davethewave7248
    @davethewave7248 Рік тому +2

    The Maori wars did not result from a disagreement over how the treaty was to be interpreted, but a complete rejection of it. In fact, major chiefs in the Waikato region had not even signed it. Kingitanga, the Maori King movement was a challenge to British sovereignty. Having rejected the Treaty, it came down to who was the most powerful tribe - Ngati Pakeha.^^ Of course, the casualties were not only much much less than that of the musket wars, but were also inflcited on both sides.

  • @davethewave7248
    @davethewave7248 Рік тому +2

    Kawanatanga is in the first article of the Treaty that deals with sovereignty. Rangitiratanga is in the second article that deals with property rights/ freedoms etc. Ergo no problemo.

    • @davethewave7248
      @davethewave7248 2 місяці тому

      @brakyosaurus When the missionaries came to translating sovereignty into Maori, they found they had to coin a new word as it was a general abstract idea new to them. They used Kawanatanga/ governorship to convey this in seomthing actual/ real... explaining that the governor, the representative of the queen, was above the chiefs as the chiefs were above those in their tribes.
      From the journal of Major Bunbury, who travelled throughout the country collecting signatures -
      "He endeavoured then to explain the meaning by a sort of diagram on a piece of board [to chief Te Hapuku], placing the Queen by herself over the chiefs as these were over the tribes. I told him it was literally as he described it, but not for an evil purpose as they supposed, but to enable her to enforce the execution of justice and good government equally amongst her subjects….. Captain Nias ordered a gun to be fired, at their request, and having signed the treaty and received some blankets and tobacco as a present, they were put on shore in a native village in the Bay."

  • @regrangihuna5089
    @regrangihuna5089 3 роки тому +6

    He pai ake Te Tiriti ki te Tai Rawhiti, he rereke...kotahi anake i roto i te reo maori, kaore te Tiriti i roto i te reo pakeha i tae mai ki te Tai Rawhiti 1840, na Reverend William Williams i mau mai i te Tiriti ki te Tai Rawhiti i te tau 1840. Heoi ano, ko te whakaputanga, ara, He Whakaputanga 1835 te whakaaetanga tuatahi i waenganui i te Kingi William me te Tangata whenua i te tau 1835.

  • @ronniewoods7443
    @ronniewoods7443 3 роки тому +19

    We are one people but Maori are treated like a foreigner in their own country. Prime grazing land. Should be $400'000.00 for rent on to days market yet crown pays Iwi $900.00 every 4 years and owners get nothing. After Rates are paid and trustees are paid the 1'000 owners get nothing. Yet the White Supremist Pakeha call us land grabbers but how this is our land.

    • @antmanatthemoment7233
      @antmanatthemoment7233 2 роки тому

      Which iwi are you from out of curiosity?

    • @brucesmith1508
      @brucesmith1508 Рік тому +1

      You Maori lost the war with the crown and ate other maoris , stop dreaming and tell the truth

    • @djhemirukahemisphere8893
      @djhemirukahemisphere8893 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@brucesmith1508 We still fight today for justice . And with comments like yours we will continue

    • @tjhawe-cm1lg
      @tjhawe-cm1lg Місяць тому

      ​Racist white supremacist crybabys

    • @Froggability
      @Froggability Місяць тому +1

      Times changed ehoa
      Life ain't cheap for no one, jump on Trade me get a job work your tero off, like the rest of us

  • @cheliae8560
    @cheliae8560 4 роки тому +8

    Thank you for breaking it down.

  • @KINGSFORDLIFE
    @KINGSFORDLIFE 9 місяців тому +4

    Land, sea and foreshore belongs to the creator not Māori not Pakeha or any other ethnicities, we're all tenant's under one landlord and expected to keep the place tidy and get along with our neighbour's. Māori and Pakeha caused the deaths of hundreds of others so they both have no moral ground to stand on.

  • @sweetsjelly
    @sweetsjelly 5 років тому +7

    Very interested to learn Wakefield didn't actually set foot in NZ until 1853. He was, it seems, selling parcels of land (for his new capitalist/immigration venture) from England. (* According to Wikipedia so need to double check reliability but doesn't seem like a detail they'd get wrong).
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Gibbon_Wakefield

    • @TheAotearoaHistoryShow
      @TheAotearoaHistoryShow  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Claude. You might enjoy this: www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/black-sheep/story/2018755209/colonial-mastermind-the-story-of-edward-gibbon-wakefield-part-1

    • @thingme9941
      @thingme9941 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheAotearoaHistoryShow Of course what this fails to show is that on October 17 1839 Edward Jerningham Wakefield, nephew of the notorious Colonel Wakefield went ashore with three ship's surgeons to bring relief to the wounded bodies piled against the palisades, extracting bullets, binding wounds and setting broken bones after the Battle of Kuititangi involving the Ngati Raukawa and Te Ati Awa tribes.

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому

      You know anyone can add a post to wikipedia.

    • @Nelson-o8i2i
      @Nelson-o8i2i 9 місяців тому +1

      He whakaputanga signed 1835 the United tribes

  • @abigailsinclair-parker6798
    @abigailsinclair-parker6798 Місяць тому +1

    So good!

  • @berniefynn6623
    @berniefynn6623 2 роки тому +3

    THOSE who did not sign are outside the treaty, so much give back anything they got from the government.

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому

      Bernie Fynn you have been gaslighted by the powers that be that your head is full of misinformation. BRAINWASHED.
      This country is run on Māori putea, this putea funds almost every aspect of government. The Waitangi Tribunal Settlements and so on.
      The Māori Nation is one of the wealthiest Nations on this planet. Every year MPs in government go the U,N. hold their hands out with their kite asking for Māori putea. Back in around 2016 Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh (if my memory serves me right) was a Trustee of one Māori bank account that he directed funds out of to the NZ government. However most of these accounts are now controlled and managed by the IMF i.e., the United Nations. So maori only got their own putea given back to them, it cost the government nothing.

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 10 місяців тому +1

    That a great video, very well done.

    • @Digmen1
      @Digmen1 10 місяців тому

      I will try to watch it all, and the other videos in your series

  • @kyvremthedestroyer9085
    @kyvremthedestroyer9085 4 роки тому +11

    Ahhh, Russell. “The hell hole of the pacific”

  • @YO_NEEN
    @YO_NEEN 2 роки тому +5

    Good. I'd like to know about the big war between the moari and the Maui...
    And how they rumbled untill they ended up either side of the equater with the "crazy" Indians inbetween them.
    Papa and Rangi, nothing is coincidence.
    And also like to hear about the Viking treaties... The viking tombstones, the twin Viking burial plots, that have been wiped from common information.

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 Рік тому +3

    Amazing what people from the colony of New South Wales achieved eh?

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому +1

      Ah ha good spotting Sean Lander. Of coarse I'm referring to ''the colony of New South Wales''. NZ is a colony of NSW. And was mentioned in the Australian 1901 Constitution. BOOM BOOM.

  • @psyconwill
    @psyconwill 3 роки тому +17

    The founding document of NZ was not Te Tiriti o waitangi it is He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga o Nu Tirene. The Moari people only signed Te tiriti o waitangi knowing that they were an independent nation and were soverign people. The contract He Whakaputanga and the protection of King William the 4th with the united tribes flags protected the indiginous people from external laws/governments. The legitimate flag of NZ is the original flag gofted to the Maori by king william the 4th. The current flag of NZ is not legitimate and is a representation of the company/corporation that has taken control of the only indigenous independent nation in the world.
    Every kiwi who understands the true history of NZ should be ashamed of the flag NZ and the corporation running the country.
    Search Dan Hermansen for an indepth discussion on He Whakaputanga also search Monica Eastwick to learn how to join the diplomatic mission regarding He Whakaputanga.

    • @downtoearth5108
      @downtoearth5108 2 роки тому +4

      Nga mihi ki a koe CrytoVenture, e tika tau. He Whakaputanga o te Rangatiratanga te mea tuatahi te kawenata e kii ana ko Aotearoa te whenua ko ngai tatou te Maori te mana o te whenua. Kaua ko The Treaty of Waitangi. Nga mihi.

  • @berniefynn6623
    @berniefynn6623 2 роки тому +2

    The treaty DOES NOT say anything about partnership, the treaty guarantees maori equality and protection of the culture.

  • @katiebartlett8144
    @katiebartlett8144 2 роки тому +1

    I watch your show at school the teacher is so annoying he pauses every 5 seconds 🤣🤣😂😂. I love your show

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns 3 місяці тому +1

    .... It is true that, technically, the legal estate (shadow) is in His Majesty, but this legal estate is held subject to the right of the Natives, recognized by the Crown to the possession and ownership of the customary lands which they have not ceded to the King, and which His Majesty has not acquired from them.

  • @che6630
    @che6630 2 роки тому +6

    -- The Colonial Office at Downing Street, London hold an official 1840 document of Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
    -- Busby was a racist and his track-record in Australia is atrocious
    -- Potatau Te Wherowhero did not himself sign the Declaration of 1835
    -- There's no 'official' account that Hobson said, "He iwi tahi tatau"

    • @karenmetz4500
      @karenmetz4500 2 роки тому +1

      The Declaration 1835 is most important, relates to sovereignty, and, Mana Whenua, Mana Tangata which Queen Elizabeth 11 bases her sovereignty on. This is about Whakapapa. 🙏😇❤️🕊️🎇

    • @che6630
      @che6630 2 роки тому +2

      @@karenmetz4500 huh?? First of all - QEII does NOT base her sovereignty on the 1835 Proclamation. Second - it's about Tino Rangatiratanga, Kingitanga, and Mana Motuhake. Third - it's about establishing a legislative body.

    • @stevenstuart1442
      @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому

      that's where you are wrong,.there is recorded evidence that He iwi tahi tatou was spoken at the end of proceedings.....there is also no evidence the Te tiriti was a Partnership.....and Maori were the Tangata Maori 'not' Tangata whenua.....

    • @che6630
      @che6630 Рік тому

      @@stevenstuart1442 "there is recorded evidence..." yet you can't produce it?!?!?! brilliant job!! Until you provide corroboration for your claim, I'M RIGHT! Please point to where I specifically stated Te Tiriti to be a "Partnership", and also where I said Maori were NOT Tangata Maori... if I didn't say it, stick to the expressed points or jog on.

    • @stevenstuart1442
      @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому

      @@che6630 yet I cannot produce it?? well there actually is, surprise, surprise.....and your historical incompetence is showing....so suck it up... "His Excellency appeared to be in good health and spirits, and to be much interested in the scenes before him. As each chief affixed his name or sign to the treaty the Governor shook him by the hand, saying (in Maori), "He iwi tahi tatou" ("We are [now] one people"), at which the Natives were greatly pleased. All that were disposed having signed, the Natives gave three cheers for the Governor". ...taken from..."The AUTHENTIC and GENUINE HISTORY of the
      SIGNING OF THE TREATY OF WAITANGI." William Colenso ...who was there and recorded the proceedings.....don't cha love it...

  • @jholmzjholmz6592
    @jholmzjholmz6592 3 роки тому +4

    Forgotten to inform us that slavery had been abolished in the British Empire. Would Maoridom prefer being a state of the US or a colony of France?France abolished The Black Code in 1848. The US in 1865.

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 3 роки тому

      They all still had indentured servitude, which was pretty much the exact same thing. Hell, we used to sell them to the brits and french for almost a century afterwards.

    • @thingme9941
      @thingme9941 3 роки тому +1

      @@tanepukenga1421 You're right! Hongi Hika had a great scheme going long before the British arrived. And it was a pity there was no servitude offered to the Chatham Islanders prior to colonisation either?

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 3 роки тому +2

      @@thingme9941 .... they didn't. They were separated by the islands by well over 100 years at that point. Where were you educated? The 1950's?

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 3 роки тому +2

      @@thingme9941 And you're a few hundred years off Hongi Hika, but since you were already spouting well disproven BS I am not surprised you got so many parts of your own comment wrong.

    • @thingme9941
      @thingme9941 3 роки тому

      @@tanepukenga1421 You're dead right. The Moriori conquered by the Maori in 1845 continued to be slaves of the Maori till 1866.

  • @uggali
    @uggali 9 місяців тому +1

    Great quotes👍

  • @DW_Kiwi
    @DW_Kiwi Рік тому +1

    But then. These tribes that were part of this confederation signed the 1840 Treaty of Waitangi. Negating this agreement

  • @richardtate2919
    @richardtate2919 Рік тому +3

    New Zealand when did we change the our name

    • @D.Cooper420
      @D.Cooper420 8 місяців тому +3

      James Cook changed it in 1769

  • @ora-in-aotearoa9747
    @ora-in-aotearoa9747 2 роки тому +4

    TE TIRITI O WAITANGI is the 1835 Document, 28 Rangatira signed with Busby, then a further 18 signed, 4 articles outlining the lores and.partnership between the crown and maui what our rangatira put.in place. Which is still legal today
    1840 is called The treaty of Waitangi the British residents did.not.like.the agreement between Maui and the crown and the fact maui had all authority over their lands forests and waters, so they illegally formed an alliance with 500 rangatira men and woman to sign their illegal treaty,.but maui signed the maui version with the understanding of their lores, the British how ever altered their English version to.suit them, which to this day is illegal also and not honored by the crown.
    So another attempt by pakeha to.try deter people from te tiriti o Waitangi 1835 saying it was 1840, bcoz they know 1835 is actually the FOUNDING DOCUMENT to aotearoa honored by King William IV to this day

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому

      Where does your info come from that says TE TIRITI O WAITANGI is the 1835 Document, because I've never heard that non fact before.

    • @taanenirai310
      @taanenirai310 Рік тому

      ​@@robintamihere4550Google Te whakaputanga..declaration of independence 1835..A document signed by Maori Rangatira 5yrs before the corrupt Treaty of Waitangi came to be..😎

  • @abrazerozealous9588
    @abrazerozealous9588 3 роки тому +3

    Good job guys keep it up until your in a mandatory class room ...

  • @davethewave7248
    @davethewave7248 Рік тому +2

    Interesting videos, but the tone is too matter of fact... as if the last word were being spoken, and that new facts or new interpretations could not come into the picture. This authoritative tone may serve to impress the impressionable, but anyone with a bit of nous will see it for what it is - the pushing of an agenda.

  • @vaynaa
    @vaynaa 3 роки тому +1

    Can someone tell me, how to refrence this??

  • @ghelhead
    @ghelhead 3 роки тому +5

    THANK YOU!!! LOVE how you showed Maori fought alongside British as well.

  • @taraishot100
    @taraishot100 Рік тому +4

    The chiefs that opposed the treaty pretty much predicted the future

  • @Ignite-Life-275
    @Ignite-Life-275 5 років тому +14

    Honest mistake my ass.. pure GREED

  • @nukutauruagraham5221
    @nukutauruagraham5221 2 роки тому +1

    amazing

  • @matthewloughnane7153
    @matthewloughnane7153 4 роки тому +6

    Awesome series, do you have any references for this episode? cheers

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 3 роки тому

      Check out Te Papa. There's also the National Library in Auckland

    • @StGammon77
      @StGammon77 10 місяців тому

      Tepapa has 2 versions of the English Treaty both are different so there's the problem it doesn't match the tiriti! ​@@tanepukenga1421

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 10 місяців тому

      Under law, the benefit of the doubt when it comes to ambiguity in contracts goes to the party who did NOT draft it. There's also entire sentences which are omitted in the english version, which is why there's a translated version showing the differences@@StGammon77

  • @shyantewao1681
    @shyantewao1681 3 роки тому +3

    is anyone other then me just watching this for homework

  • @maapauu4282
    @maapauu4282 2 роки тому +4

    Does anybody know how to talk to the kingitanga?

    • @michelleripia8146
      @michelleripia8146 2 роки тому +1

      Sorry but i consider him a sellout, the real and true King my Kaumatua, te Kingii Taawhiao would never be in kahootz with the Crown lavishing in the riches of their world while his people still being oppressed, but sadly many of our people have turnt that way and forget the turmoil our ancestors had to live and fight through in order to try and keep our Sovereignty well and truely alive.

    • @maapauu4282
      @maapauu4282 2 роки тому +2

      @@michelleripia8146 Wow, I didn't know that that was going on. Taawhiao was my great grandfathers brother, my great grandfather being Hori Te Rata

    • @theftbyextortion9642
      @theftbyextortion9642 2 роки тому

      ✊🏿we are the kingitanga, e nga hapu katoa o waikato 🤎
      If you want to talk to tuheitia
      🌿Petition him for Audience☝🏿

    • @maapauu4282
      @maapauu4282 2 роки тому +1

      @@theftbyextortion9642 Thank you, I've been wanting to reconnect with that side of my whaanau

    • @heminuiraho879
      @heminuiraho879 2 роки тому

      were there a king history says his name was Mananui Teheu...but we all know Maori have no king...they have rangatira

  • @IAMPononga
    @IAMPononga Рік тому +1

    You forgot to mention slavery, funny how everyone forgets to mention slavery, it's like it never happened. Or it doesn't matter somehow. Maybe to understand Te Tiriti o Waitangi we need to stop talking about what chefs did or did not think, but rather to open our hearts to what was actually happening to ordinary people at the time, to understand how slavery had infected every part of this land. But maybe it is safer for us to forget the past, not everything of course, just the bits that don't suit, like the bit about slavery.
    Te Ruki Kawiti, a prominent Māori chief and military leader of the Ngāpuhi tribe in the early 19th century. In his correspondence with missionaries, he described the impact of slavery on his own people. He mentioned the suffering of Māori slaves, who were taken captive during intertribal warfare and forced to work as laborers, often enduring harsh treatment. H. K. Taiaroa, a Māori chief and member of the New Zealand Parliament, described the experiences of the Ngāi Tahu people during the 1820s and 1830s. Taiaroa's account mentioned the devastating impact of warfare and slavery on the tribe, which led to significant population decline and dislocation. The Ngāi Tahu people were often targeted by the more heavily armed northern tribes, such as the Ngāpuhi, who took captives as slaves. Wiremu Tamihana Tarapipipi, a Māori chief and leader of the Ngāti Hauā tribe in the 19th century, played a crucial role in the establishment of the Māori King Movement (Kīngitanga). He was also known for advocating for peace and unity among Māori tribes. In his correspondence with Europeans and other Māori leaders, Wiremu Tamihana acknowledged the existence of slavery in Māori society and its negative effects. He promoted the abolition of slavery and encouraged peaceful resolutions to conflicts between tribes.Āpirana Ngata, an influential Māori politician, lawyer, and scholar in the early 20th century, collected and preserved Māori oral histories, traditional knowledge, and cultural practices. In his work "Nga Moteatea," a collection of traditional Māori songs and chants, Ngata included references to slavery and its impact on Māori society. The songs often describe the experiences of captive slaves, their longing for freedom, and the grief of their families. Te Puea Hērangi, a Māori leader and granddaughter of the Māori King Tāwhiao, was a prominent figure in the early 20th century. In her recorded oral histories, Te Puea recounted her ancestors' experiences with intertribal warfare and slavery. She described the devastating consequences of these practices on the Māori people, emphasizing the importance of unity and peace among the tribes.
    In 1836, the Church Missionary Society (CMS) missionary, William Yate, reported that around 50% of the Māori population of the North Island were slaves. Yate's report was based on his experiences and observations while working among the Māori population in New Zealand.Samuel Marsden, an Anglican missionary and one of the founding members of the Church Missionary Society (CMS), arrived in New Zealand in 1814. In his letters and journals, he described the existence of slavery among the Māori and the harsh treatment of slaves, particularly during intertribal warfare. John Savage, a British naval surgeon, visited New Zealand in 1805 and wrote about Māori society in his book "Some Account of New Zealand" (1807). He noted the existence of a distinct class of slaves, who were captives taken during warfare and subjected to hard labor and cruel treatment.Jules Dumont d'Urville, a French explorer, visited New Zealand in the 1820s and observed the practice of slavery among the Māori. In his accounts, he detailed how slaves were captured during warfare and were subjected to labor and other forms of exploitation. Joel Samuel Polack, a British-born New Zealand trader and writer, spent time in New Zealand in the 1830s. In his book "New Zealand: Being a Narrative of Travels and Adventures" (1838), he described the existence of slaves among the Māori, who were primarily prisoners of war, and their harsh treatment. Richard Taylor, an English missionary and naturalist, arrived in New Zealand in 1839. He documented Māori customs, including their practice of enslaving captives from other tribes, in his book "Te Ika a Maui, or, New Zealand and Its Inhabitants" (1855).Edward Shortland, an English ethnologist and New Zealand government official, wrote about Māori slavery in his book "Traditions and Superstitions of the New Zealanders" (1854). He described the status of slaves within Māori society and their treatment, which could be harsh, depending on the tribe and circumstances.Augustus Earle, a British painter and travel writer, visited New Zealand in the 1820s. In his book "A Narrative of a Nine Months' Residence in New Zealand in 1827" (1832), he recounted his observations of slavery among the Māori, including the treatment of slaves and their role in Māori society. James Busby was the first British Resident in New Zealand, appointed in 1833. He played a significant role in the development of the Treaty of Waitangi and was involved in the early interactions between Europeans and Māori people. Although his primary focus was on establishing British authority and promoting trade, he also had the opportunity to observe Māori customs and practices, including slavery.
    In a letter to Governor Bourke of New South Wales, dated April 5, 1834, Busby expressed his concerns about the slave trade in New Zealand. He noted that it was common for Māori tribes to engage in warfare, taking captives as slaves (known as taurekareka or mokai) and sometimes selling them to European settlers. Busby considered this practice to be a violation of British law and humanity, and he urged Governor Bourke to take action to suppress it. Charles Darwin, the renowned English naturalist, visited New Zealand during the voyage of the HMS Beagle in 1835. In his book "The Voyage of the Beagle" (1839), he briefly mentioned Māori slaves, noting that the Māori people he encountered treated their slaves with contempt. William Colenso, a missionary and botanist, arrived in New Zealand in 1834. He worked with the Church Missionary Society (CMS) and later wrote about his experiences, including Māori customs and the treatment of slaves. In his book "Excursion in the Northern Island of New Zealand" (1844), Colenso mentioned that slaves were used as laborers, cultivators, and even for cannibalistic purposes in times of war. George Clarke, another CMS missionary, arrived in New Zealand in the early 1830s. He served as a protector of aborigines, responsible for overseeing the welfare of Māori people under British influence. In his correspondence, Clarke mentioned the existence of slavery among Māori tribes and advocated for the abolition of the practice. Frederick Edward Maning, an early New Zealand settler, trader, and author, arrived in New Zealand in 1833. In his book "Old New Zealand: A Tale of the Good Old Times" (1863), Maning recounted his experiences living among the Māori people and the existence of slavery within their society.
    Just maybe the really important thing about Te Tiriti o Waitangi is that it was another important step in the elimination of the evil of slavery from this land. Funny how it never gets mentioned

    • @Neff17
      @Neff17 Рік тому

      You've got this all wrong. The concept of slavery in western world view and maori worldview were completely different.
      These people who wrote about them were writing what they witnessed from a western point of view.
      I do understand where you are coming from, I've read a lot about these people. However, you do need to develope a better understanding of a maori worldview to gain more perspective of this and anything regarding maori.
      This is where a lot of misunderstandings start from.
      I spent a lot of time reading archives on this topic and one of the main lessons I was taught by my mentor was to understand the writers worldview. This means looking beyond their writings and doing extensive research.
      I do respect people that take the time to read up on this topic, you're obviously not ignorant. But i will say its not hard to find information to back any argument, what's hard is questioning your own opinion and finding information against your argument. That's a wero I leave for you

  • @alecparatene2175
    @alecparatene2175 4 роки тому +5

    My boss wants to no why carnt we just stop waiting day that was in the past ..I shaked my head

    • @alecparatene2175
      @alecparatene2175 4 роки тому +1

      I sed my nana's nana was in that age so get fuck pakeha

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 роки тому

      What?

    • @Marts1122
      @Marts1122 3 роки тому

      Because it’s apart of our history & you can’t leave the past in the past when it’s still happening today 😅

    • @chastautoko7177
      @chastautoko7177 2 роки тому

      Did you just shake your head? I would of schooled him/her.

  • @greynee
    @greynee 3 роки тому +2

    Imagine losing the treaty

  • @CaptainKuki
    @CaptainKuki 6 місяців тому +2

    It’s all go in 2024!!!!!

  • @RayClosel-hf6cx
    @RayClosel-hf6cx 10 місяців тому +1

    What a cute couple! Lovely hair!

  • @nigelpomare86
    @nigelpomare86 3 місяці тому +1

    The treaty is not the most important document it is just a peace of legislation (imagination to be exact)
    The most important document is the doctrine of discovery 1835 that was signed by whetoi Pomare Maori paramount chief and the king of England, William

  • @lukeschimanski2995
    @lukeschimanski2995 Рік тому +1

    I think that Hone hecke cut down his own flags that he had made an maybe gifted ,,not sure ?

  • @johnrameka-ye7ns
    @johnrameka-ye7ns 3 місяці тому

    .... "I shall in the sequel explain the relation in which the proposed Colony (of NZ) will stand to the Government of NSW" (Australia). Pre-emption. "Māori must not be permitted to enter into any contracts in which they might be the ignorant and unintentional authors of injuries to themselves. To secure the observance of this Rule will be one of the first duties of their official Protector......... "

  • @alecparatene2175
    @alecparatene2175 4 роки тому +2

    Now it's so hard to buy house

  • @alecparatene2175
    @alecparatene2175 4 роки тому +3

    And most maori working under the white man

  • @alexandracurr9582
    @alexandracurr9582 2 роки тому +1

    good information!😁

  • @turangatohiariki3042
    @turangatohiariki3042 2 місяці тому +1

    BECAREFUL OF THIRD PARTIES WANTING YOU TO GIVE ACCESS FOR COMPUTER INFOMATION USING TERMS NO COST

  • @Colezzyyy
    @Colezzyyy 4 роки тому +2

    Wahine from Taranaki??

  • @gooser2583
    @gooser2583 Рік тому +1

    "Te Tiriti was revealed to Hobson in a cave, by God through the Archangel Gabriel. Therefore, anyone who wishes to amend or change the holy text is committing a grave blaspheme. Whoever disagrees with its content or disputes its transcendent authority, declares themselves anathema in the eyes of God and state. Such persons shall be promptly excommunicated from all public life and burnt at the stake." Welcome to NZ, 2023.

    • @erina4586
      @erina4586 Рік тому

      That's a lie. The Treaty was written
      by Hobson in a dusty office in England.

  • @cavellparker8600
    @cavellparker8600 8 місяців тому +1

    Better to read one sun under the Sky. More accurate.

  • @GrandeSalvatore96
    @GrandeSalvatore96 3 роки тому +5

    Really informative videos! Subtitles would be great though, especially because of all the names, and for Americans like myself

  • @wallacepikia1528
    @wallacepikia1528 Рік тому +1

    If we look at this law doesn't that mean that everything that has come after that is extinguished because there were breaches, King George III invoked it, King George IV was the protectorate and guardian of our people because we had no trading flag, our country wasn't recognised or registered therefore we couldn't trade and this is why boats were either stopped or convisgated in Sydney so if we go right back to the laws this would apply and everything that comes after has been breached all lands return to their original title, 'Maori Customary Title' which means no Jurisdiction has control. Here is a copy of the law that I am talking about. 500AD Salian Law or Salic Law
    Law defined as-principle of exclusion of women from inheritance of the throne, fiefs {An Estate of Land, especially one held on condition of Feudal Service-A Peasant or Worker know as a Vassal received a piece of land in return for serving a Lord or King} and other property.
    Jurists later resurrected Salic Law and reinterpreted it to justify the Line of Succession forbidding not only the inheritance by a woman but also inheritance through a female line. So, if a King had a daughter, she couldn’t inherit the Throne and her sons and grandsons couldn’t inherit it either.
    Salic Law was first introduced in 1410-King Henry IV of England was applied when Queen Victoria who was the House of Hanover, became Queen of England 1837 but was barred from Succession to Hanover Crown which went to her uncle.

  • @Hup-x1y
    @Hup-x1y Рік тому +1

    So England ,got on with their neighbors.???

  • @tcdcoptions
    @tcdcoptions 2 роки тому +1

    I'm watching this as a South African,

  • @honahwikeepa2115
    @honahwikeepa2115 Рік тому +1

    Forged on the absolute moral categories of the Bible but not in practice. Second, Maori who saw the boat people from Raiatea and Europe arrive, were ignored by the Treaty negotiators. In 1880 the crown placed a Seal on my genealogy papers that pre- dates Jesus by 1500 years. However this has been ignored by both Maori and the crown to this day. The Treaty of Waitangi fails for this reason. The haka Ka Mate is about a descendant of these ancient people who descend from Ruatipua, the genealogy of the ancients. Te Wharerangi, the recipient of this haka is a direct descendant of Ruatipua. He was killed for saving the life of his enemy Te Rauparaha who descends from the 13th century migration. Te Wharerangi is the son of two people's, the migration people and my people from Ruatipua. His birth is the symbol of peace between the ancients and the migration people. After his murder, his land and mana (prestige) were usurped by the migration people and the NZ government. To this day our story has not been told. To my family, Te Wharerangi represents the high road of morality. Greater love has no man, than he lay down his life for a friend. Te Wharerangi lay down his life for his enemy. Hence Ka Mate is the haka that the NZ All Blacks have made famous the past 120 years. It is sad that most New Zealanders have no idea about this story. I am great great great great great grandson of The Wharerangi direct through the male line. He was a pacifist who sought to befriend all peoples rather than make war. It is fitting that the NZ All Blacks have enshrined this idea into Rugby history. Two tribes that have been at war since Colonials arrived in Aotearoa New Zealand. When they play Rugby together they are a force to be reckoned with and are the most winning team in world sporting history. Thanks for the knowledge and God bless.

  • @brucesmith1508
    @brucesmith1508 Рік тому +1

    who were the underage girls that were sleeping with sailors for money and guns forced by Maori men so they could buy muskets and kill enemy tribes

  • @vincestone4002
    @vincestone4002 10 місяців тому +1

    Didn't 500 cheifs sign a document called a Treaty.

  • @invisibleray6987
    @invisibleray6987 Рік тому +1

    Why you calling these islands UM BONGO names?

  • @DW_Kiwi
    @DW_Kiwi Рік тому +2

    Then they found the correct one in 1989. The Littlewood Draft. This one is near an exact copy of the Te Reo one Te Tiriti o Waitangi. This copy is the one that should be used by the Government, But the corrupt Labour Government and Maori used another one . The Freeman copy. These northern tribes tried to gain an attempt to unite these tribes. It went nowhere. The English Crown did not condone it.
    This presentation is full of lies and innuendo. In short it is also misleading

  • @siaioapo4752
    @siaioapo4752 4 роки тому +1

    Does anyone know what are the key promises of the treaty of Waitangi? is there more than one promise that was made in the treaty. 🤔

    • @qpishjunior4772
      @qpishjunior4772 4 роки тому

      first of all you need to understand that there were/are two treaties of Waitangi saying different things

    • @TheAotearoaHistoryShow
      @TheAotearoaHistoryShow  4 роки тому

      teara.govt.nz/en/treaty-of-waitangi

    • @qpishjunior4772
      @qpishjunior4772 4 роки тому +2

      @romeas10 yeah that was Te tiriti, the crown lied to manipulate the maori. The Treaty said something different

    • @hirokawiti4932
      @hirokawiti4932 3 роки тому +2

      Partnership, protection and participation. They have yet to honour the agreement... The queen has the original scribed on dog skin, te tiriti o waitangi.

    • @johnjamescarberry7557
      @johnjamescarberry7557 3 роки тому +2

      First Article: rangatira give to the queen of england the right to establish a Kawana - a Governor to control lawless settlers
      Second Article: tino rangatiratanga or maori independence over our lands communities and our treasures is absolutely guaranteed. Rangatira (Kings and Queens) also agree to trade (hokonga) land with the Crown should they wish to do so.
      Third Article: Maori are offered all the rights and customs as the people of Britain - Nga tikanga katoa rite tahi
      Fourth Article: spiritual and religious freedom is protected by the Governor.
      That's it. These are the provisions of Te tiriti o Waitangi.

  • @michelleripia8146
    @michelleripia8146 2 роки тому +3

    What I want to know is...
    Why is Systemic and Institutionalised racism so prevalent amongst the Maori communities, mite i add in recent years there is recognition that some positive changes have happend more forecast to come, so why haven't things really improved with our appalling statistics, considering our people are a minority going by census and poulation numbers, yet we represent and dominate all socio-economic statistics that are for us, all bad!! for example we have the highest incarceration rate here, with Maori women taking out stats for the most incarcerated indigenous women in the OECD, Maori are among the figures of having the highest domestic violence rates, unemployment stats, highest teen and men aged over 40 suicide rates, highest child abuse stats, teen pregnancy altho nos. are falling, youth crime, school dropouts, yet we only make up 15-18percent of the entire population, does anyone see this as perhaps a continuous problem cos heck wateva methods or solutions theyv stated they have tried or are trying, its clearly not working and has not worked since we became colonised, which has all been under the guise of helping or implementing ways for us to help ourselvz and communities but something keeps falling short of that and its hard to pinpoint what that is?? It seems some underlying issue or issues keeps this trend continuing, it's disappointing and disheartening to say the least, I have much hope we will recover, and start to flourish again how we were always ment to be.

    • @robintamihere4550
      @robintamihere4550 Рік тому

      It is going to take time to turn it around so I'm told with InterGen rationalised racism.
      Institutional Racism, Oppression, discrimination, Inequality, Inequity, Impoverishment, Deprivation, Marginalisation, injustices, imprisoned without trial, arrested without Arrest Warrants, Home raids without Search Warrants, Personal searches without consent, Human Rights abuses are endless and there is more, the trickle down effect on the privileged superior race needs to change their mindset.

    • @tjhawe-cm1lg
      @tjhawe-cm1lg Місяць тому

      Because if your not white new zealander they say you maori

  • @DW_Kiwi
    @DW_Kiwi Рік тому +1

    The most important document in New Zealand!!...So it got neglected!!! Really.

  • @berniefynn6623
    @berniefynn6623 2 роки тому +3

    In the 1830s, maori wrote to the English King for protection.

  • @blaird6508
    @blaird6508 9 місяців тому +1

    Doesn’t actually deal directly deal with Te Tiriti in any depth. View here for more informed discussion ua-cam.com/play/PL8OkkR36ZRmVZBZlTvwoxD2hzjP3T9Gc7.html&si=4Y45HmdxOy7o4Aa2
    ua-cam.com/video/XUUtPzOcUCY/v-deo.htmlsi=bXwKrVdLkK11TBLz

  • @nicholastaylor3638
    @nicholastaylor3638 6 місяців тому +1

    Who n how did they ask crown in 1833?

  • @squashum778
    @squashum778 3 роки тому +1

    No, No No, nothing about ‘partnership’ read the document !

    • @Marts1122
      @Marts1122 3 роки тому +1

      Partnership involves working together with iwi, hapū, whānau and Māori communities to develop strategies for Māori education.
      Partnership encourages and requires Māori to be involved at all levels of the education sector, including decision-making, planning, and development of curriculum.

    • @Marts1122
      @Marts1122 3 роки тому

      The 3 P’s partnership, participation and protection

  • @AndrewBennettNZ
    @AndrewBennettNZ 5 років тому +7

    This series has been great so far, but the flickering effect you have during some of the text sections in this episode (e.g. 6:07, 7:30, 10:22) is quite nauseating/disorienting, to the extent that I wasn't able to watch those sections at all and still feel unwell minutes later 😵
    Would you be able to avoid that effect in future episodes? This may not be possible if you've already finished all of the episodes, but I figured I'd ask just in case...

  • @perryanderson9103
    @perryanderson9103 6 місяців тому +1

    Human being human

  • @ShanejohnSpicer
    @ShanejohnSpicer 11 місяців тому +1

    New zealand skeleton in the cupboard watch it

  • @SasanquaTea
    @SasanquaTea 2 роки тому +5

    There were people in NZ before Maori, a new Video called "Poukawa Revisited" shows human occupation at 7170yrs radiocarbon dated and under the Taupo ashbands and deeper .. some of the dating goes back 10,000 years .. anyway it has only just been released to the public

    • @TheAotearoaHistoryShow
      @TheAotearoaHistoryShow  2 роки тому +3

      sorry Tea, no credible historian believes that. There's simply no serious evidence to support that idea.

    • @SasanquaTea
      @SasanquaTea 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheAotearoaHistoryShow Wrong, Scientific evidence in the form of Radio carbon dating and Tephra Ash bands confirm without any shadow of a doubt human occupation many many thousands of years before maori arrived. see the doco"Poukawa Revisited" see for yourself!

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 2 роки тому

      @@SasanquaTea no, those dates were calculated over 50 years ago. carbon dating has improved a lot since then. a recent review of carbon dates from over 500 sites show early Māori settlement happened in the North Island between AD 1250 and AD 1275.

    • @SasanquaTea
      @SasanquaTea 2 роки тому +1

      @@eeeaten in what way? the carbon dating of 50 years ago is the same as today, in fact the samples used in the tests of 50 years ago were significantly larger than today's samples which makes them even more reliable and less susceptible to error. you are very limited in your understanding of carbon dating methods quite obviously.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 2 роки тому

      @@SasanquaTea look it up. carbon dating used to be quite inaccurate as there are a lot of ways it can be contaminated. about 50 years ago tree-ring calibrated radiocarbon started, a standard calibration curve was introduced in 1986 and is updated every few years as more data are added. a ton of dates have been revised with more accurate results. as above dating of over 500 sites around nz show settlement happened between 1250 and 1275 AD.

  • @stevenstuart1442
    @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому +3

    The Treaty of Waitangi was never “our” Founding Document. It did what was intended in the first six months of 1840 and was then superseded by Queen Victoria’s Royal Charter on the 16 November 1840, which allowed New Zealand to became its own British Colony, with its own Governor and Government under one flag to make and enforce one law for all the people of New Zealand, irrespective of race, colour or creed, but under the watchful eye of the British Parliament.

    • @chippytwo7920
      @chippytwo7920 Рік тому

      yeh,I'm not Maori but the original white flag needs to come back & burn this f@#kn blue one

    • @lokidd3644
      @lokidd3644 Рік тому

      He whakaputanga 1835 is the founding document 😁. Fact

    • @stevenstuart1442
      @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому

      @@lokidd3644 not so, the very same chiefs that signed H Whaka. were the first to sign the TOW ..and then again in 1860 at the Kohimarama Conference 200 north island chiefs once again ratified the Sovereignty of Britain...

    • @lokidd3644
      @lokidd3644 Рік тому

      @@stevenstuart1442 hahaha wtf you mean 'not so 🥴' he whakaputanga 1835 precedes tow 😂

    • @stevenstuart1442
      @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому

      @@lokidd3644 lol, it preceded the TOW yes..which of cause means the Tow superseded it....done deal....all signed out by your ancestors

  • @tubedriver009
    @tubedriver009 2 роки тому +2

    The bloke is annoying,, his whole delivery ruined by an overblown indignancy. Didn't need the attitude. The girl was good, presentation without affectation.

  • @lesteranddonna
    @lesteranddonna Рік тому +1

    This should be fact checked !

    • @TheAotearoaHistoryShow
      @TheAotearoaHistoryShow  Рік тому +1

      Hi Lester and/or Donna. Rest assured it was vigorously fact-checked by a number of experts and based on numerous historical sources.

  • @Nelson-o8i2i
    @Nelson-o8i2i 9 місяців тому +1

    Convicts in parliament

  • @katiebartlett8144
    @katiebartlett8144 2 роки тому +2

    It

  • @Liam_Dorey
    @Liam_Dorey 4 роки тому +1

    Only here cuz of my humanities teacher

  • @thomasr246
    @thomasr246 11 місяців тому

    Williams is on Record saying that he needed Maori to sign so he changed the wording to suit his own needs and views, why do you gloss over this Fact and pretend it could be something else? The maori version of the Treaty is void under every Law except Ideology . Seriously why does Maori Never just tell the Truth of the History of this country?

  • @VortikiDnB
    @VortikiDnB 4 роки тому

    We Love TP

  • @stevenstuart1442
    @stevenstuart1442 Рік тому

    Our True founding Document is the...'Queen Victoria’s Royal Charter/Letters Patent' with its Royal Seal attached separated New Zealand from New South Wales on the 16th November 1840 when New Zealand became a British Colony with a Governor and a Constitution to form a legal government to make and enforce our laws, all under the watchful eye of Great Britain, in other words our TRUE INDEPENDENCE Document.....and any one here know where this document is?? Ill tell you it isn't in Te Papa alongside other important documents like the TOW , the DOI so why is this hidden from the public and most NZ haven't heard of it..... this vid is a shameful representation of the T.OW .....

  • @shanepalliser7958
    @shanepalliser7958 Рік тому

    There is no "partnership" FULL STOP
    Maori CEDED to the Crown for protection and were given the SAME rights, responsibilities, and obligations as BRITISH citizens.
    Not the current RACIST crap we have been subjected to since the Waitangi Tribunal was established.
    And how about being truthful and balanced and telling everyone about things Maori did to each other and to early colonisers.
    Eg, didn't they sell the South Island three times, to different buyers?
    And there can be no confusion of the intent of the British when referenced to (Settlers) correspondence back to Britain and personal diary entries, now hidden in government archives.

  • @antmanatthemoment7233
    @antmanatthemoment7233 2 роки тому

    3:17: it's pronounced "te ree"

  • @kingfillins4117
    @kingfillins4117 3 роки тому +8

    There is no mention of partnership in the treaty.
    Mairi clearly seeded full and complete governance the Crown.
    Maori knew what they were signing.
    They wanted protection and and end to Utu that had been decimating the Maori populations.

    • @feywildheart2878
      @feywildheart2878 2 роки тому +4

      It might be worth noting that there were translation errors and misunderstanding between the maori and english documents. Article 1 being a chief example. The maori version gave chiefs the right to govern, vs the english ceding to the crown. It'd be like signing a contract that differed from english and german versions, but the german one was upheld.

    • @chastautoko7177
      @chastautoko7177 2 роки тому +1

      That's not why we signed, go try though.

    • @kingfillins4117
      @kingfillins4117 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@feywildheart2878They weren't stupid. They'd had quite a long history of intermarriage, trade and interaction at that point. They knew enough to know what they were signing.
      There are statements by various Rangatira recorded at the time. One I read basically said, "Don't sign, you will become serfs". They knew what the treaty meant.
      It obviously meant seeding sovereignty. Of course Maori would have control over their land, as any crown citizen would over their land. They were being made citizens. You think there was no trade off for that? You think English citizens of the crown could have independent rule under the crown? Obviously not.
      .

    • @kingfillins4117
      @kingfillins4117 2 роки тому +2

      @@chastautoko7177 Some absolutely did. Apparently Tamaki Makaurau Iwi only had 600 or so left and sided with the British to gain protection from those who were perpetrating genocide against them. What was giving up sovereignty to not be completely wiped out or gain the mana of being a crown citizen? Northland Maori boasted about their literacy rates. Learning English was seen as great Mana.
      Im not saying that terrible things didnt happen. Just offering some context and balance.

    • @chastautoko7177
      @chastautoko7177 2 роки тому +3

      @@kingfillins4117 which tribe in Tamaki Makaurau did that? First I heard, it wasn't Tainui, Ngati Whatua, Ngati Wai or Hauraki. None did. Now the giving up of power, we signed it because of the Maori article not Pakeha, and if you knew the treaty well, I don't think you would of said what you did, please re educate yourself. It's annoying when someone tries to know it all, but their facts are wrong.

  • @turangatohiariki3042
    @turangatohiariki3042 3 місяці тому

    Why the pacific people exile Maori az Pacific islander's

    • @Plucktocks
      @Plucktocks 2 місяці тому

      Some people do and some don't, just like some Maori reject the idea of being Polynesian and some don't.

    • @turangatohiariki3042
      @turangatohiariki3042 2 місяці тому

      @@Plucktocks WHY YOUR LOT LEAVE YOUR SEX DISEASED & INFECTED WAR TORN POOR & UNLIVABLE EUROPEAN COUNTRIE'S TI FIND A BETTER YOU

  • @massacreleef3544
    @massacreleef3544 2 роки тому

    ULTRAVIRES

  • @retsmah-ome
    @retsmah-ome 2 роки тому

    lol

  • @Tokkan1
    @Tokkan1 11 місяців тому

    Revisionist Maoris sheesh

  • @noahfranks2892
    @noahfranks2892 2 роки тому

    Watch Waitangi: what really happened

    • @TheAotearoaHistoryShow
      @TheAotearoaHistoryShow  2 роки тому

      Yep, it's very good: www.nzonscreen.com/title/waitangi-what-really-happened-2011