S1 E2: Tangata Whenua | RNZ
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- The Polynesian people who first discovered Aotearoa spent hundreds of years exploring the Pacific Ocean. When they finally arrived here it was unlike anything they had seen before. It’s a story of technological innovation, new horizons and becoming a new people.
Series Classification: G (General Programmes)
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For others who are forced to use this to answer questions in a google doc:
Voyage was kicked off by volcanic eruption, then famine (2:55)
Polynesian people originally came from the coast of south-east Asia (1:11)
Aotearoa was the last landmass found by the Polynesians (2:37)
Kupe and his wife were chasing a giant octopus (3:22)
Hawakii was multiple islands around Tahiti and the Cook Islands (4:19)
All you need to know about Moriori is 5:17 - 5:58 (the rant that comes afterwards is just myth-busting, so kind of relevant but not really)
Maori became known as 'Maori' upon contact with Europeans, before then Maori meant ordinary (16:04)
Extinct bird count is around 32 (8:25)
Social structure is 11:19 through to 12:42, the names are spelt (ignoring the lil flick at tops of words) whanau, hapu, iwi, mokai (slaves), tutua (people), rangatira (chief and family), tohunga (wise guys).
12:45 - 14:39 is the spiritual concepts (although this wasn't a question for me, it might be helpful for others)
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Kia ora, dudes! This is Ville Andersson from Sweden 🇸🇪 coming to watch this documentary! And I just have to say, what a performance!
Great episode, keep up the good mahi, loving this series!
So beautiful hearing about the migration I always always wondered about! All I ever heard was stories from people who also don’t know.
And it’s nice to not just see the depressing wars…I’ve watched those videos and they just make me sad…those people are my ancestors, I see my whanau in those videos! Only so much trauma I can watch. I feel enough of the inter generational mamaē as is! Enough!
I love how you guys keep things light so it’s more watchable and hence I’ll stick around to learn more, ai kapai!
If History was this interesting when I was at school over 20 years ago, I would’ve actually listened! I remember learning about the rest of the world a lot of the time, apart from the colonised perspective shoved down our throats.
Kids are so lucky these days learning about what actually happened! So lucky.
thank u,that was cool to watch.
what a fantastic history of Maori people, just loved this, im an Aussie who absolutely loves New Zealand, thanks for a great informative doco, i love this!
peace and stay safe
Our pleasure!
So was it true that a dingo really did take the baby up around Ayers rock or did the parents do it ? just curious
@@sarahfunaki3884 the courts found her innocent, and there have been many more attacks since all over Oz over the years
@@wombatforestfilms6248 My comment was a cheeky one I say to all Aussies wasnt expecting an answer , but found what you said interesting as I actually didn't know what you said , So she was innocent. Thank you for replying
YOU both are great, very interesting!!!:)
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0:00 (Introduction) Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa.
1:08 The ancestors of the Polynesian People.
1:51 The ocean going waka.
2:36 The last land mass.
3:19 Kupe.
3:57 The migration fleet.
4:15 Hawaiki.
5:13 Rekohu/Wharekauri/Chatham Islands - Moriori.
7:06 First arrivals.
7:30 Crops.
8:40 Species extinction.
9:33 Agriculture/kaitiakitanga.
9:54 Pā life - crops, fortifications, social structure.
10:25 Oral traditions. - Te Arawa - Maketū, carvings.
11:06 The evolution of Māori customs (tikanga) in Aotearoa.
11:19 The basic unit of family life - Whanau/Hapū/Iwi.
11:44 Divisions of class - Taurekareka (captives) Tūtua/Wāre (common) Rangatira (chiefs) Tohunga (expert).
12:42 Spiritual/Cultural concepts - Mana (Tapu (sacred) Utu.
14:25 The Utopian view of Maori as a singular society, language, culture debunked
15:10 500 years of Pre-European settlement - Trade/Exploration/Fighting/Population growth/Average Life-span.
16:22 The arrival of the first European explorers - Abel Tasman
Good notes!
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This is my home work, Thaniks for the help
The auto-captioning is hopeless at te reo Māori (and often the kiwi accent too). So here's an accurate transcript for those that need the accessibility
For early Polynesian explorers arriving in Aotearoa would have been buzzy. For one thing, it was huge! The islands of New Zealand are ten times bigger than all the other islands of Polynesia combined. And this land was full of stuff Polynesians had never seen before; snow-covered mountains, bubbling mud pools, enormous trees and gigantic birds. But the biggest difference was the climate. It's way colder here. Polynesians brought crops with them from the Pacific; taro, paper mulberry and kumara. It took a lot of experimentation to keep those tropical plants alive through a New Zealand winter.
Luckily they didn't need those crops to avoid starving because Aotearoa was jampacked with kai [food]. The forests were full of flightless birds which had no experience dealing with predators on land. Archeologists have found the rubbish dumps of early Māori and they are overflowing with bones of flightless birds, particularly moa bones. Moa were essential to the lives of Māori for more than a hundred years. They ate them, the bones were carved into fish hooks and ornament, the feathers were woven into cloaks to protect against the cold.
The word Moa is actually the same word Māori originally used for chicken but there's a big difference between a moa and a chicken. Your average chicken can lay up to 300 eggs a year. You can kill and eat a lot of chickens and the population will bounce back pretty quickly. But you can't do the same thing with moa. Moa only laid one or two eggs a year. This made them very vulnerable to extinction and Māori don't seem to have realized this until it was too late. Within a few hundred years of humans arriving in our territory 32 species of bird were driven to extinction, including all nine species of Moa plus several other flightless birds like the Adzebill, the native New Zealand goose and pelican. This wasn't just down to hunting, the extinctions were also driven by introduced rats and dogs which ate birds eggs.
Archeologists and geologists have found layers of ash which suggest huge fires ripped through New Zealand's Bush around this time. They were probably lit deliberately to flush the last few birds out of hiding. These extinctions left a lasting impression on Māori. 300 years later, when Europeans arrived in Aotearoa, Māori still had a whakatauki [proverb] mourning the loss of the moa Kua ngaro pērā i te ngaro o te moa" "gone as the moa is gone". There's a similar saying in English 'dead as a dodo'.
From the fifteen hundreds on, Māori had to find different sources of kai [food]. They focused less on hunting birds and more on agriculture and kaimoana [seafood]. There was more emphasis on kaitiakitanga, the sustainable management of natural resources. developed their own traditions and way of doing things different from their Polynesian ancestors. There was also an increase in warfare as people fought over the best sources of kai. Before this point Māori had mostly lived in small camps which only lasted until the local food sources were exhausted but now they needed more permanent settlement so they could stick close to their crops and defend them from outsiders. This is the point where Māori started building Pā - fortified areas which people could retreat to if they were attacked. At least, that's what happened in the North Island. Most of the South Island was too cold for growing crops so tribes down south still had to keep moving, harvesting seasonal sources of kai.
Over time Māori developed oral traditions which reinforced connections to the land which sustained the tribe. Often these traditions referred back to the arrival of their tūpuna in Aotearoa for example, when the waka 'Te Arawa' arrived in the Bay of Plenty, "Tamatekapua [her captain] sprang up and pointed out to the headland which juts out into the sea at Maketu and said "that point there is the bridge of my nose" it said that by claiming the land to be part of his body he made it sacred and the claim was recognized by everyone on board. Connections to land and ancestry were also encoded in visual art forms these patterns were carved into Wood or pounamu or even directly into the skin through ta moko [facial tattoos]. Over time Maori developed their own traditions and way of doing things different from their Polynesian ancestors.
That stuff's really important for understanding Māori history from this point on so it's time for a super quick tikanga Māori crash course. The basic unit of Māori life is the whanau, the family group. Then there's the hapū, the tribe. This was a network of families who usually live together in the same village. Finally there's the iwi this is a confederation of hapū who all descend from the same waka or foundational ancestor. These connections told Māori who they were and where they'd come from. Who they could reach out to for help both in peace and war time.
Within Māori society there were divisions based on class. At the bottom level were the slaves, taurekareka. But this wasn't slavery like we think about it today. These were enemies captured in battle who were sort of absorbed into the tribe of their captives. Above them were the tūtūā, or ware, the common people. Then at the very top were the rangatira, the Chiefs. It's tempting to think of rangatira like kings or lords because their titles were passed down from parent to child, but it was more democratic than that. Rangatira had to consult with their people about important decisions and usually, they respected the will of the majority.
Alongside the other three classes were the Tohunga, the expert class. These people were like living spiritual libraries. They passed down the iwi's accumulated knowledge, their tribal history and whakapapa [geneology], where to fish or hunt, how to carve a wharenui [meeting house], how to heal illnesses, how to deal with supernatural forces. Day to day life was built around interlocking spiritual and cultural concepts. There are lots of these concepts, but we're gonna focus on three of the major ones; mana, tapu and utu.
Mana is partly related to your status it can be inherited from your ancestors and enhanced by the way you act in life. If you were a great warrior or a skilled weaver that would increase your mana. But if you were lazy or rude or just generally a bit useless that would degrade your mana. Mana also means authority, your respect. There are stories of rangatira [chiefs] who had so much mana they could scare their enemies into running away, even if they were outnumbered 10 to one. Next we have tapu. You could translate this as sacred or forbidden. Violating tapu risks offending the gods, and they could make you sick or even kill you. Finally there's utu. Utu is the principle of balance or getting even. If someone gives you a gift, utu demands you give them a gift in return. If someone attacks you, utu demands you settle the score.
Utu, tapu, and mana were important for day to day life. Mana helped maintain social bonds. It encouraged you to work harmoniously to increase your personal mana and the shared mana of the tribe. Tapu was there to protect people from supernatural forces, and from practical stuff. It's tapu to sit on a table but that's also to do with hygiene and keeping our kai [food] away from our butts. Hitting heads is tapu because your head has your brain in it. And a rāhui [a ban on entry to, and resource gathering from, the area it is placed], when someone dies in the river is a form of tapu so people don't eat fish or eels that have been feeding on human remains. Finally, utu encourages you to pay your debts.
However Maori society wasn't a perfect utopia. Our old traditions of Māori warfare can be pretty horrific. Defeated enemies were often eaten,not because they were hungry, but as a way of absorbing their mana. But that doesn't make Māori culture unusually barbaric or evil, every culture has skeletons in their closet. Also we should be careful about seeing Māori as all the same. Māori have a lot of shared heritage but we also have distinct cultures and traditions, different styles of carving, different legends, and local dialects of te reo Māori. Like you might notice me saying words like w[h]anau and w[h]akapapa when it's normally said as whanau or whakapapa. I'm not saying it wrong, that's just my local dialect from from Whanagnui.
Māori spent about five hundred years developing ways of living in this whenua [land]. There was trading, warfare, alliance, betrayal, feasting, famine, natural disaster, migration, discovery. The population grew from a few hundred to about 80 or 100,000. Some estimates have put the number as high as 200,000.
Most people lived in northern parts of the North Island where it was warmer and easier to grow crops. By modern standards your average Māori had a pretty hard life. Many people suffered arthritis from paddling waka and carrying heavy loads on their backs. They often developed serious dental problems because their food was full of grit and tough fibers. Average life expectancy was about 28 years and that might sound short but it's roughly the same as Europeans in the same time period.
500 years after arriving in Aotearoa, New Zealand's largest land animals were gone but the bush teemed with birds. The largest kahikatea trees reached 80 meters into the sky in the sea was full of fish. And up until this point in history nobody in Aotearoa needed to use the word Māori to refer to themselves. The word Māori literally just means 'ordinary' and no one had ever met anybody who didn't meet that description. But in 1642 tangata whenua saw something totally new. Somewhere near the northern tip of the South Island, billowing white sails appeared on the horizon. Maōri were about to have the very first encounter with Europeans and their encounter was not going to end well. But that's a story for the next episode.
Thanks for joining us on the Aotearoa history show produced by RNZ and made possible by the RNZ New Zealand on Air Digital Innovation Fund.
That was very interesting
Very interesting the part with the volcanic eruption (Samalas) I didn't knew it at all ! I also found very funny the fact that taurekareka would means slave because here in Tahiti taure'are'a means the youth or youngsters, and if you break down this word in te reo Tahiti you can see that it's composed in two others, Tau= Time, period, era... and re'a= pleasure, joy, happiness... So it's even funnier when you think about it ! Māuruuru for this beautiful video 'Ia ora na
In Samoan Taule'ale'a means young men or untitled men
@@michsymons2625 'Ia ora 'oe, very interesting ! but it's not that surprising when you think about it. Are you a samoan speaker ? I'm very intersted about polynesian culture in general. Mauruuru.
@@henerebordes3089 Yes I am a samoan speaker. Im very interested in Polynesian culture too. Im very interested in Tahiti and its origins? Do you know where Tahitians origins are?
@@michsymons2625 France? xD
In Samoa the taule'ale'a serve the village and the chiefs so I don't think it's a big jump from serving the village to being regarded as a slave. Or perhaps catching these untitled men and enslaving them.
Your show is good
Very good indeed. Well done to all involved.
We're learning about Aotearoas past in my class my name is Shanae hill terri butchers daughter make more episodes please 😁😀😄😃😉😎🧐🤓 I LOVE HISTORY😃🤓
Loving the video! But its sad we still dont give the Melanesians any recognition for their part in the oceanic exploration of the pacific. Popular believe needs to update their narrative with the new science. The area in southeast asia where the polynesians came from is in the Maluku Archipeligo between Papua and Indonesia. They are Melanesian in origin and are said to be the first true Polynesians when they culturally mixed with the later influxes of Austronesians. They also invented outrigger canoes and double hulls since ancient times. Sea faring warriors! The so called missing link!
This is an important point.
I'll preface this by saying, these terms are all partly problematic in that they were created by a French man (Charles de Brosses) based on entirely superficial observations, such as skin colour... However...
The perception that Polynesians are simply and entirely Austronesian, is largely due to the way that Polynesian language and cultural cosmology has largely been inherited from the Austronesian side.
But as you've said, in reality our Polynesian culture is a mixed inheritance from both our Melanesian and our Austronesian forefathers. Therefore I don't think it's as simple as to say that Melanesians (a.k.a. what we now, in wake of Brosses, perceive as Melanesians) or that Austronesians (a.k.a. what we now, in wake of Brosses percieve as Polynesians) either created the outrigger canoes alone. But it was, as far as I have understood, through a trading and interweaving of these two cultures through which the Polynesians, among many other mixed Pacific peoples often considered now as lying outside of that term, sprung forth.
Many of these South-east Pacific peoples are considered more "Melanesian" nowadays, many considered more "Austronesian". However, in reality these boundaries are very blurred, and people seem to largely use language as an indicator of this, leading to much confusion over the status of Fiji; a huge player throughout Polynesian history, yet they are set apart by European linguists and geographers alike due to a different language, perhaps darker skin. This is even despite the huge amount of other cultural overlaps with Polynesians which extends to the present day.
Sorry for my wordy run-on sentences, I hope they're readable!
But yes, I very much agree that more acknowledgment must be paid to our Melanesian forefathers, who were some of the first to humans to ever brave the ocean, from 50,000 years ago onward. Through this lineage is also our link to the indigenous Australians and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Certainly cannot go overlooked.
Ive been saying this for the longest time.
@Urbn Ctrl, thank you for your interesting post. Oldest DNA skeletal remains found in Polynesia are between 2700 - 3000 years old. The DNA of these people/skeletal remains pointed to Taipei and Northern Philippines, they did not have any Melanesian DNA. It was 1000-1500 years later those with Melanesian DNA arrived into Polynesia firstly via Solomons (Marata) then into Viti. Upon arrival, they adopted the culture of the native population and also incorporated/borrowed some of their language.
Melanesians came only as far as Fiji and made it to Nz earlier than the Maori as some of the Iwi tribal storys talk of earlier Darker ,and lighter skinned peoples that were already here. The Maori Regarded them as being not as advanced as themselves and feral. They had a habit of turning their heads and only looking at people through their peripheral vision.
@@sarahfunaki3884 Yet melanesian dna is found as far as South Americas. Someone is lying, its either the genetic data that is incorrect or the narratives of the newcomers. Also, NZ back when the Melanesians were there was part of a bigger plateau almost as big as modern Australia. When the Austronesians came from Sundaland - most of the continent of the inhabitants of that area had just survived a major catasrophe and it is highly likely that the people they encountered were the highlander nomadic peoples that were the biggest groups of survivors of any flood since the advanced civilizations often inhabit the coastal areas (which in the case of Zealand was obviously flooded.) Many Melanesian stories tell about this giant flood which also is part of the origin story of the West Papuan islanders and Torres Strait Islanders. The fact does not negate the megalithic structures made by the melanesian peoples who lived on the coastal areas before this flood happened around 10.500 years ago.
Also: Maluku is in West Melanesia the opposite end of Fiji - and is literally off the coast of Australia and Papua which is a focus zone of Melanesian ancestry.
Wow, I didn't get a chance to visit Northland, so that's the first time I hear whānau pronounced like how it is written.
So cool to be educated on NZ history. I noticed Lee was saying whenua and whakapapa as 'wakapapa' and 'wenua'. So cool to see different representations of Māori language.
Maori created all the races
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Yeh I wondered if she was pronouncing it wrong as well until she mentioned that that how her lo al iwi say those words. I always was told it was pronounced with and f sound not the wh sound. Very interesting especially the moriori but
as a middle aged american who’s family is from afghanistan, I totally enjoyed learning about all of this.
probably the closest theory to match historical events. But always surprised that the main reason some islands become inhabited overlooks the obvious. Whether there is a reliable enough source of fresh water. Without which survival is impossible.
Haha, i'm glad you cleared that up re pronunciation of 'whanau' and 'whanau'! Had me for a while there...
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Polynesians did land in sth america, thats were we got the kumara from and one of reasons why its so precious to us, if you do some research there is a doco where the sth Americans say we were the first to visit them back in the days, they also have one of our old waka on display.
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bro how old are you
There are docos that prove Maori are from China, Taiwan, South America, Easter Islands etc... So take your pick
Genetics link Maori and Taiwanese
@@edbroaotearoa1198 yeah genetics link Māori and taiwanese, which is right next to china, and kumara and language Māori to Easter Island which is south America. Polynesians had boats lol, was kinda their thing
@@XPimKossibleX that's funny kamura is found inland of png too growing wild
Great video, well done. One of the major point I take from all this is that no matter who we are descended from, whether Maori or European that we all suffer from the same human frailties. Man's inhumanity to man is a story to often told in ancient and modern history and not specific to any race or culture, well maybe because we all belong to the human race. To quote African American academic Thomas Sowell, " It doesn't matter how smart you are if you don't stop and think" and a well known one from Winston Churchill, "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"
Thomas Sowell is indeed a very great man , I wouldn't rate Churchill except for him being the only person to ever be able to get drunk then sneak up behind Stalin at Yalta, and then silently gesture to his submachine gun wielding bodyguards 'Shhhhh' then to the horror of everyone around proceed to give Stalin an almighty Wedgie....... now that is a legend to do that and survive. sadly, his bodyguards did not.
If you're so smart, how come you forgot the full stop at the end?
Great episode. Interesting that the eastern Polynesian colonists did not have/bring chicken and pigs which were food sources throughout the tropical Pacific.
Fantastic video. I learned a lot. Thank you
if you took everything they said at face value. you did not learn as much as you might think
Interesting show. It would be nice to have subtitles for the spoken Te Reo, I wasn't familiar with a few of the phrases.
Yes agree, would be nice to learn it through correct spelling.
In the Tongan language, Ao (cloud) Tea (white) Loa (long) 😎
Same in all of them
In the KFC language, Kentucky Fried Kitchen.
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I’m watching this cuz my teacher is making the whole class watch it as an assessment
keep in mind that the homeland of the Indonesian nation is in the region of South China and in relation to the region of South China is a navigating nation such as the Austroasia and Austronesians that they have been recorded thousands of years ago by Chinese sources
Fuck I love this show. Both of you are great to watch and learn off. Plus the scenery is very appealing 😍😍😍 your guys pronunciation is perfect Kia Ora
It is interesting to note that recent research suggests (as outlined on a recent Maori Television documentary on the Chathams) that Morori were in fact decimated and subjugated by Maori who had travelled from the mainland. Migration and aggression are often linked over the need for vital resources for survival and this was prominent in every migration no matter the race or culture, world history tells us this.
this is not recent research but rather historical fact. the timing of these events is important. when maori began arriving from around 1250AD there were no people in new zealand. a group of maori (or rather the eastern polynesians who inhabited new zealand) left mainland nz around 1400-1500AD to live in the chatham islands and became moriori there, isolated for hundreds of years. in the late 1700s they were "found" by europeans, the chathams became a base for whalers and sealers, and then in 1835 a group of ngati tama and ngati mutunga took a british ship from wellington to the chathams with the intention of taking the land (and people) as their own. within the last few years the land has been returned to moriori, along with compensation and an apology from the nz crown, and the enshrinement in law of the history of what happened to the moriori from 1835 onwards.
Ataata whakamiharo, kia mau tonu te mahi. Kare e tatari kia kite i nga riipene hou, Nga mihi!
There is an old map that shows Maori has a colony at the entrance to the other side of Antarctic ice wall. Called serpent’s gate
That’s definitely made up nonsense
And it's back! With that extensive vocalably of "made up nonsense"@@eeeaten
Probably not. Have a look at Kaimanawa "wall" the dig was an awesome vid. Go see it yourself if you can too. The right angles cut blocks are slowly moving to show themselves, with the tree on top.
@@stephenhoward7454 only if you're a conspiracy loon. that wall is a natural feature.
Where is this map😂
cool
I would appreciate having the Maori words you use popping up on screen for visual reference. Nice to learn some Te Reo at the same time.
#moari are like so cool
The tsunami info came from Gavin Menzies book 1443?As well as ``Tsunami The Underated Hazard``by an Australian Professor whose name at present I can`t remember
THEY VOYAGED BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO ESCAPE FAMILY 🤣😂
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I can relate to that, lol.
I have one other question about Moari's. I've read that further back in history kakapos were sometimes kept as pets. Were only Maori chiefs allowed to do this or could anyone in the iiwi do so?
@@uncle3822 He said further back in history
Kia ora awesome stuff! What is the copyright on using any of this material ? Ngā mihi nui
@@hOurworld11 okay I'll take a look thanks
The great navigator Kupe Raiatea depicted in a Statue at Wellington Museum Te Papa 🇳🇿
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Awesome
lmao subtitles said “Danny the octopus was stealing the fish”
damn you danny!
Hi werahiko clay here from poroporo whakatane aotearoa ( new Zealand)
I really think youtube should try upgrade their captions
Has anyone made any good worksheets or note taking guides to go with these videos?
I got my students to watch once, then take down notes as a running text (bullet points, icons etc) , group notes together under key ideas, then use these notes to create a summary.
Otherwise, I've created my own questions after watching to guide students to the key information - a bit like an information quest, ensuring the questions are deep thinking - For example: Episode 1: Not "How much did the ocean rise after the most recent ice age?" but instead " Explain why scientists are concerned a slight increase in the world temperature" (This is for year 8's). By creating my own I can ensure the correct focus, i.e. we are focussing on leadership, so my future lessons will focus more on the why, how and consequences of decisions made by those in power, Grey, Hōne Heke etc. Such a great resource with so many opportunities for beginning our learning of the history of NZ.
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Thats just my local dialect from Wh(f)anganui lol
Love to know what references you have used for the whole series.
Hi Simon, thanks for the question. The credits at the end name the historians who fact-checked the entire series. We've worked closely with the Ministry of Culture and Heritage and consulting historian Basil Keane. But we've also consulted a handful of other historians who are specialists on their area and a whole bunch of books... many of which you can see piled up on the desk in the studio. Views of history are always evolving, but we've worked really hard to be very rigorous and even-handed on the best information historians have now.
Hi Zeb, Basil Keane is a Māori Historian. We also consulted with Dr Joanna Kidman (Ngāti Maniapoto, Ngāti Raukawa) who is a sociologist who has done research into teaching NZ history.
Corey MacPherson why is it crap
@@TheAotearoaHistoryShow 'views of history are always evolving'. Herein lies the problem! It either happened, or it didnt. It is not negotiable according to the propaganda you wish to push
@@chchwoman9960 Exactly. Academia has been so infested for decades with neo-marxist radicals that when there's 2 or more competing narratives, the one that favours their agenda will be promoted to the detriment of the actual truth. Usually white European bad, indigenous good, even when recognised as nuanced by a neutral observer
can you do a video on rangitane?
Very informative video. Thanks learnt alot🎉
Except that you have no evidence for calling two islands Aotearoa . In fact, if it was NZ’s name, why wasn’t mentioned in the te triti?
what do you mean? they say it's one of many traditions about naming, and probably first referred to just the north island.
Tangata Wheuna are part of a global culture which spanned the globe..
nope.
The man looks like he doesn’t wanna be there Fr 💀🙏
Read the book .Chain of Evidence. It would be hard to find .but some still hv it .I managed to read and still hv it as it explains Maui isn't a myth but of flesh and bone.
Thank you !Would really help if you showed the te reo words on screen.
Can you explain how slavery differed then? Saying iut's not how we picture it, but that they were enemies absorbed into the tribe sounds exactly like any other slavery. Plenty of enemies were enslaved historically by other civilizations. This sounds like an excuse to try to make yourself sound better, whilst having enslaved people.
Slavery takes different forms in different cultures. These days we tend to think of slavery mostly through the prism of enslaved Africans in the 1800s. This was what we call "chattel slavery" where slaves have no rights, earn no pay and can be bought and sold.
But that's not the only form of slavery. For example in Ancient Rome, slaves sometimes were allowed to earn small amounts of money which they could use to buy their own freedom. There were also some limited rights for slaves where they got days off for special holidays. Some Romans who fell into debt would sell themselves into slavery to settle their debt, then buy back their freedom at a later date.
Taurekareka are different again. Maori had no concept of money so slaves weren't paid or sold in the same way as chattel slaves or Roman slaves, and unlike African slaves, the children of Taurekareka could become full members of the tribe of their captors. That said, there are also stories of really nasty mistreatment of Taurekareka.
I don't think there's such a thing as "good" slavery, but we felt it was important to acknowledge the differences in Maori slavery compared to the enslavement of Africans in particular.
Its different because it wasn't chattle slavery as we know today. Which was invented with the trans atlantic slave trade. The idea that most people think of when they think of slavery
@@urbnctrl Slavery is slavery.
The reason there are no pure blood Maori not even 50% is that each tribe had their own female slaves (from other tribes) and sold them to white settlers for either muskets / food. Thats why today some "Maori" even have blond hair and blue eyes!!! go figure
@@wairoa55 Actually there is a 100% Maori blooded person. If you're going to espouse things at the very least be accurate. And what you described is simply slavery. African tribes did the same thing. It is not different in any way whatsoever. Good try though.
Kia Ora
Why didn't the pacific migration group go to Australia?
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Would the Maori in the 1300s have had Mana, Utu and Tapu as societal concepts or was that too early?
All those things derive from Atua, being from time immemorial.
Other Polynesian have that so yeah
One problem with Maori oral history is it's twists and turns away from facts. I had always thought we dominated Moriori and always thought they were a very separate people, and probably my whole whanau believe that too. Thank you for correcting that problem with me
No worries. The Moriori myth has been a persistent one for years, but it's so important to clarify what we know.
Nah my bro, jus big imaginations
@@toshadavinci5379 stop it! You are the problem! I learned this history when I was a child! Moriori and Maori are the same people!!!!!!
@@toshadavinci5379 stop it 😆, educate yourself mate. Your misguided. Stop spreading false information.
@@toshadavinci5379 your misinformation tells everybody else that your spreading fiction, no one agrees with you,because you're wrong. Wake up mate.
I have a theory about the Moa extinction. I think it's possible Maori wanted to extinguish the Poukai or Haast Eagle. If this was the goal. The easy way to do it would have been to cut off the food supply.
Interesting whakaaro. I don’t think it was intentional. Much like humans everywhere I think we were simply ignorant to a sustainable method to hunt them.
@@analpulverizer1880 interesting name. i agree with you. i can't imagine the motivation for wanting to eradicate the eagle.
@@eeeaten Motivation in this case would have been they were scary and at the top of the food chain above us. Used to be stories about them taking not only sheep and other stock but small children I believe.
@@analpulverizer1880 It is possible that you're correct. It's just a theory of mine with little actual research done.
Yeah, that's a ridiculous theory. Kill all the stuff we eat so that thing we are afraid of can't eat also.
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15:07 "That's just my local dialect from Whanganui"
Don't people from Whanganui say 'Wanganui' tho?
No, the name was changed recently by the local govt. Local Maori still refer to it as Whanganui.
i'm from near there. the local dialect has a very soft "wh" sound, so "whanganui" is pronounced close to "wanganui", and likewise you can hardly hear the "wh" in whanau and whakapapa.
They did make it to South America and North America Polynesian fish hooks and skulls found in chille also Polynesian ship found of queens island in Canada poi pounders Hilda Guaii
nope. i wish it was true.
Facts
moa are all big burbs moa:Burb mega evolve!
What supernatural forces?? Laugh out loud🤪
Rapanui is in the east, not the west -_-, but very good! :)
Wow the more u learn
Why was it the last to be discovered?
Wasn't there oral history about others in NZ when the Polynesians arrived?
No?
no.
to clarify, the first people to arrive from polynesia were the first people, and arrived in the mid to late 1200s. there were no others before them. as more polynesian people arrived, they found other people living here - those polynesians who had come before them. the end.
This should be the largest chapter and not focus on the recent pakeha led 'arrival' narrative. Aotearoa is Maori and that destiny was not to be whitewashed to focus on British Colonial occupation.
@@titiwhai The British Colonial cultures are well catered to from theft and erasure of Maori Aotearoa. No one needs any more input from your cowardly, underhanded White Supremacist side.
Can someone please tell me where the "Aotearoa" comes from as I dont think its mentioned in the 1840 Treaty.
@@wairoa55 Can someone please hug this sad white supremacist try hard.
People of the "sea" yeah right
More thinly veiled racist nonsense from you?
The depiction of waka is wrong! The first ocean going canoe was built with center hull and outriggers! Not double hull canoe..
Peruvian people were here before Polynesian people.
All stone carvings are from them.
Plus the designs Maori use today.
The TIKI comes from Mexico.
Same as the Kora, koha designs.
They are painted in the caves of the Aztec people in the Grand canyon.
Over 3000 years ago.
This program has know references on dates and times.
Fantasy nonsense
😂
The history of NZ is,KUPE discovered here
One of his wife called Aotearoa because it was misty and foggy
He came from MANIHIKI
but born in RAIATEA
that is one legend, who knows whether it's literally true or not.
16:48. Dangit, I want blood! Blood and guts everywhere! Blood on the rocks! Blood on the streets! Blood in the sky! Blood on the sheets!
Maori people similar to Batak people in Sumatera
Over population was the driving g factor and not enough food for all
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I just want to know is this the history they teach in schools approved by academia
yes, it's the history based on the facts of what happened.
hi eny one from John mcglashon
Why don't you pronounce the h in Whanau, Whakapapa or Wharenui? Just a question 😊
Nevermind, I answered my own question, lol. All good 😊
Rapanui to the West? Isn’t it to the East?
Hoping this is the real deal and not that fake shirt...nvm should of known you can't get that on yt
Zelandia the 8th content and very 1st.
what do you mean 1st
So what about Maui? As taught in school he was a fairytale.
like most myths and legends, aspects of maui may have been based on a real (polynesian) person.
I agree that the majority of māori come from the pacific Islands but there was a small percentage that come from Peru and they are the red head māori's.. just wondering why they were left out of this episode?
New Zealand Skeltons in the cupboard talks about these people.
definitely not. there is no genetic influence from native americans in maori people. that "skeletons in the cupboard" is made up fantasy nonsense.
Do you have a link for that information?
Thats false debunked information from that video.
@@kalebbrown7243 youtube.com/@forteanstudies9845?si=32kweqHevDJJr7nO
@@pube66 🤷♂️ could be, I found it an interesting watch.. do you have any links to help give me more substance to the subject.
No mention of the settlers already in NZ??? Funny that.
there weren't any. science shows the first people of new zealand were the eastern polynesian ancestors of maori, arriving from around `1250AD.
@@eeeaten Cheers eeeaten. Stewart, this is a pervasive myth but every theory around pre-Maori humans in NZ has been well and truly and repeatedly debunked. All the archaeology we know of at this point suggests the first people came to NZ late in the 1200s or very early 1300s.
I´m from France. As the Europeans arrived in New zealand were they impressed with the quality of the metals that the maori used in the making of their knives?
nope, but i'm sure they were impressed with other crafts.
So they wern´t impressed because the metals were of poor quality? Had the maori even discovered metal before the Europeans arrived in New Zealand?@@eeeaten
Hello? Are you there?@@eeeaten
@@eeeaten I was hoping that you could help me. You seem so well informed. What were the other crafts that the maori people of New Zealand had that the Europeans were so very impressed with? Had the maori people of New Zealand discovered metals before the Europeans arrived in New Zealand? I am gathering information for an essay about maori technology, more so how advanced the maori people of New Zealand were in comparison to other people around the world. Their discovery of metal would give a good indication as to how advanced they were in comparison to other cultures as other cultures had discovered and used metals for well over 1000 years. I am very gratefull for your help.
@@user-oh4yd5uh4e Māori did not use metals but stone, wood and textiles. They sailed, fished and had complex hierarchical societies.
With that accent, she has to be from somewhere near Whangas
Hahahaha there it is, at the end there.
Yep, Leigh-Marama is from Whanganui.
Love the Whanganui dialect
I believe they did it because they wanted to see where the sun comes from. They found out that when they sail into the wind that if they got into trouble they could get home a lot easier.
We moved because of population increase and depleting resources.
New zealand skeleton in the cupboard is true
truly nonsense
these city slickers ! for my self most of it is fine but some of there accounts are var off !
what did you disagree with?
while i thank you for your more than imformative material regarding mori ori there is suggestion of them arriving in the chatham from the south possibly via antartica ,this theoty is made possible because of Thor Heyerdahl who with like minded friends sailed out of callou in peru ,south america , where they built a sea going craft caled waka and traversed that craft all 6900ks or 4,000 odd miles to an attol in the tua motu island group,in the south pacific of polynesia,,,, it also makes plausible, the proposal that , kumara,and corn arrived in new zealand from South america ..Since hawaiiki could technically be south america given south americas orientation on the world map which places it south of hawaii it also shows how potatoes and sweet corn as well as kumara would have been traded by these group to sustain bodies for such arduous jounneys,,, DISCLAIMER i am not an academic ,,just a frustrated maori with a thirst
thor heyerdahl showed it's possible to float from america to eastern polynesia, but his aim was to show that polynesia was populated by south americans - genetics shows this is not true.
moriori language and whakapapa shows a connection with iwi of the south island of nz, so most likely rekohu was settled from mainland nz. moriori oral histories say there were also waka arriving direct from hawaiki, and that's possible but unlikely. regardless the ancestors of moriori are eastern polynesian like the ancestors of maori are - genetically they are the same people, and neither have any ancestral link with the americas. they are polynesian, their ancestors from the cooks/tahiti, from samoa/tonga before that, and from the western pacific before that. hawaiki is in polynesia, not america.
polynesians brought kumara to new zealand but not corn. the first corn (and the first potatoes) was brought by james cook or the frog du fresne around 1770.
there is no evidence that polynesians reached antarctica.
@@eeeaten thor heyerdahls expedition on the kontiki was to prove that it was possible for for polynesians to navigate the entire pacific using just the sun and stars ,because it was thought to be impossible ,,,,,,,the extrapolation of genenitics and dna sequences, came as a result of that trip using that// it was proposed that the native population of the americas would have mixed with that of polynesian blood and that dna would prove the natural origin of a racial indicator as originating in asia or indonesia as a common denominator ,,,this is simply a simple test of 100 people from across the pacific triangle from its pinnicle at hawaii and east to cook islands and rapanui in the west off the east coast of south america and was not a conclusive study and explained thusly ,,,,,,just as we today hop on a plane and go overseas often staying two three or so weeks on holiday or on the other hand going on a busniness trip overseas ,,could those ancient sailors and explorers not have done the same thing sailing the pacific in search of a home or trading partners ,,,,and just like today,,,aren't trade negotiation talks carried out daily for the rights to trade ,,,heres some resources for your edification wkipedia article entitled kon tki expidition and which also has an article on hui rangiora a cook island man who is doccumented as being the original man to possibly sight antartica who as it is told through oral maori and cook islands traditional stories suggested that he saw gigantic islands of rock floating on the sea ,he also said he visited a place that never saw the Sun as well as seeing large sea creatures breaching on the sea I and so just as archaeology,anthropology, and paleontology are not exact sciences being theoritical sciences ,these stories should be not be dismissed as evidence simply because we were not there at the ttime the science here is subjective not absolute ,,,its a great read
@@jonathantepairi2664 no, the kon tiki was to show east-to-west travel from the americas to polynesia using an american-styled raft and materials. polynesians travelled in the opposite direction against the wind with much better craft and navigation skills.
native americans are in no way ancestral to polynesians except for perhaps a single contact event around 1200AD where a small amount of native american dna reached the very east of polynesia, probably as a result of polynesian voyaging - not what heyerdahl had in mind.
nevermind your wikipedia lol, the story of hui te rangiora is a rarotongan story recorded/interpreted by pakeha ethnographer percy smith who was notorious for combining and fictionalising oral histories. there is no reason to think any polynesian people reached or sighted antarctica. you're letting your imagination get the better of you.
to state my case ,i have included reference material ,firstly thor heyerdahl ,direct quote from voyages of the kontiki ""after the war he set out to prove he could sail the oceans on a south american inca desgned raft to polynesia his voyage would be undertaken by using polynesian navigational methods ie sun and stars ,,,this is written in the dust cover,,,,, ,on the matter of dna the new york times ,,,carl zimmer writes about priscilla wehi' s work ,that small ammounts of colombian ancestry have been found in four polynesian tribes ,,that article was dated july 14 2020 ,,,,,,on the matter of ui te rangiora i don't know of percy smiths work ,but once again we bump into biologist from new zealand technical institute manaaki whenua,, mrs prisclla wehi who spoke to a.f.p. press that maori had ancient connection to antartic water exploration and hoped that in future maori would be considered in projects relating to antartica ,,,,bloke this is how amongst the many other countless numbers of research material papers i arrived at my 1st written post you don't have to agree with me ,but at least read the references written here ,,,,jonathan post script ,,,i only knew of this material while researching imfomation relating to sea voyages because i intend to publish a fictional book based on my tupuna tuterangi tepairi and old oral as well as written works by elsdon bests book tuhoe children of the mist,and also extrapolations of article by judith binney ,,,yetto be finished
@@jonathantepairi2664 it's great that you are referring to information sources. i recommend reading kon tiki again, and reviews of that book. heyerdahl was not demonstrating polynesian skills and knowledge, but was suggesting the opposite - that polynesia was settled by americans rather than by polynesians. check out the voyages of the hokulea, mau pialug, nainoa thompson, hek busby and others on the rediscovery and reinvigoration of polynesian exploration. watch scotty morrison's "origins" for an overview of the origins of new zealand's first people. i also recommend richard walter's 2017 Mass Migration and the Polynesian Settlement of New Zealand, and Atholl Anderson's _Finding Tonganui: East Polynesian Seafaring and Migration to New Zealand_
i recommend stefan milo's video Did Polynesians Reach America? DNA evidence which discusses the evidence for native american dna reaching eastern polynesia around 1200AD, including interviews with the researchers. iwi maori have no native american dna, but american dna did reach fatu hiva/easter island around 800 years ago.
I also recommend _On the improbability of pre-European Polynesian voyages to Antarctica: a response to Priscilla Wehi and colleagues_ by atholl anderson and sir tipene o'regan debunking the idea that polynesians reached antarctica.
Why; survival. How; MIG fighter jets of course.
Maori originated from North and South America,than to Hawaii,than through the islands to NZ
How did you come up with these new theory. DNA tests?
Zero evidence. You came from Tahiti and cook islands and they came from samoa and Tonga. The original poly culture formed in Fiji before the darker blokes pushed us out
@@ChrisEAdlay yes you right that’s the true history of Polynesians but idk why people say we come from South America??
@@tiotiwilliams8311 I think that myth comes from Mormonism. I grew up in Hawaii, and from the time I was a child I was taught by Mormon leaders that the Polynesians were descendants from the Lamanites, who the Mormons refer to as the original native Americans (there is no DNA or archeological evidence to support this claim). According to Mormonism, the Americas were originally settled by Jews who left Jerusalem at the time of the Tower of Babel. Long story short, the Jews who didn't listen to "god" were cursed with brown skin, and the ones who listened to "god" remained white. The brown skins eventually killed all of the white skins. Later on, the story talks about how a man named Hagoth sailed on a boat never to be seen again. The men in power in the Mormon church told the Polynesians that Hagoth is the original ancestor of the Polynesian people. The only solid connection that Polynesians have with South America is the kumara or sweet potato. Some Polynesians have travelled to South America in ancient times, and a few marriages were made as evidenced by some Rapa Nui people having DNA from South America (admixture). Other than that, South Americans are not part of the actual origin of the Polynesians.
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The" Moriori were here fist" is also part of NZ history and needs to be explained (especially because so many people still believe it)
Yeah it was trash