3mm depron wing with thicker airfoil
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Armin wing using 3mm depron and 6mm former. 6 x 1 mm CF strip spar. 3 channel motor glider weighing 300g. Much smoother and less prone to stalls than the thinner wing.
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Wife is a Covid19 Nurse we love your videos..thank you from Michigan
Greetings to you and your super hero wife. Hope I can ease the stress a little
Beautiful "How to" and perfect musical accompaniment 😍
Sets the build mood.
Fantastic. A real floater.I'm really looking forward to the build. Thank you Sir!!
Excellent stuff Andrew.........you're videos are getting me through the winter.
Excellent Davie.
Hi! Awesome homebuilt glider! Thank you for sharing the building instructions! I built a similar glider, but I have to reinforcement the wing. I hope I will fly soon. It has a very nice performance for thermal flights! Congratulation!
Glad I could help!
Loved the sloaping performance at the end of the video!!!!
Tanks Laurie, it did well in the lift
Super, now your talking my language, smooth and floaty.
Good build!
Cheer
great build video and nice music to stay focussed.
Great video Andrew enjoyed 👍
Nice!!! I like it. Thank you for sharing Andrew.
What a lovely flyer. Convinced that I need to build something similar to your N3UTRON.
Have some 4mm foam that should work. Thanks for also making a build companion video.
They are very rewarding to build, so floaty
Great build techniques on display here Andrew - Ed from EA would approve I'm sure!
Hope so, Ed is my inspiration right from the start
Hi Andrew. Did you cover both sides of the depron sheet in tape before folding the wing ?
Love your videos.
NOSS
Thanks NOSS, just covered one side
Another great video.
Flew excellently, both thermally and on the slope.
Would have been interesting to see a double wing build, one flat as you did,
and one with centre dihedral to compare flight characteristics on the same day.
Yes this design lends itself to quick wing design comparison.
that cut to get the right angle in the middle of the wing seems to me the moment where things can go wrong. But it looked so easy how you did that.
Not cut in the middle, just the 35cm wing tips
Hi Andrew, congrats on another great build! I have been dreaming for the past months of building an armin wing DLG, but so far haven't had much success with 3 failed attempts. Considering how much you've perfected your building techniques, I'd like to ask you to consider building one. There are a couple of folks who did it already but they don't really have the type of vlog documentation you do, which is extremely helpful. Please, if you have the time, give it a try. I'm from Brazil, and it's pretty much impossible to buy a DLG around here. Even the "cheaper" ones would break the bank 😅
On UA-cam, there is a guy called flyboa who has Dollar tree foam board dlgs flying marvelously, but no build videos. If you look up "dtfb dlg" you can easily find it.
Thank you so much!
Fabio, there is much more information on Flyboa's designs (and others) on this RC Groups thread - www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?1999696-Dollar-foam-DLG
Good link Tsnafu. A decent foamboard DLG would not be a simple build
@@Tsnafu Yes, I've seen the thread, I guess I'll take a second look. Some old build videos were deleted though, that was my point here asking Andrew. Recently I've considered trying to build a hi-start glider, it wouldn't have to be as strong to withstand launches. But thanks guys, have a great week!
Lovely model Andrew, gonna be great for flat field thermalling.....It reminded me immediately of some of the old time Wakefield Rubber Powered models, maybe you have heard of them...?
Hi Andrew, very nice plane. You gave a great description of how you build your wing. No details about building the fuselage however. In your vlog overview I tried to find more info (dimensions etc) and a video about the building. Is it similar to that of the 3 ch trainer? Thx for your reply. Ron
I'm working on the build overview Ron, coming soon.
Awesome. That's a nice flying glider. I want to try and build one from scratch now :)
Do it man, it's not too difficult
G'day Andrew I built a plane like this am waiting on a prop its a bi squarer in front at the moment when I get it flying I will make a video and post it. One thing the wings being so easy to make and swap allows for easy experimentation.John
Nice one John. I agree about the wings, so quick to build and swap
Another nice build! I'm planning a 1m DLG with an MH32 airfoil (10deg dihedral). Would this be a suitable application for the technique or is the MH32 too thin?
Should be perfect if you can make it accurately
Nice build
Nice build. whatta field for flying, it's all forest where I'm at
Do you put tape on topside of the wing where the outer section attaches? Or just glue and tape underneath?
Tape on the top also
I thought that because of the increase in Cx drag, the speed would be less. But this is unnoticed.
I agree, it didn't adversely affect the speed or penetration
when you're setting up your control surfaces do you want the ailerons to extend out matching the flat surface of the bottom of the wing or to follow the downward sloop of the top of the wing?
Ideally both. That means the airfoil needs to be a bit thicker at the hinge and the ailerons sanded down to a fine trailing edge. But if you're just adding flat ailerons on to an existing airfoil then I would have them flat to match the bottom.
thanks, it's the same large walmart chuck glider that flight test converted to rc earlier this year, it has really think foam wings that i added twin motors and control surfaces to using dollar store foam board and instead of tapering the foam board i just used packing tape to form the trailing edges of the foam board. i did have a friend who is a professional rc pilot for the movie industry fly it once and he said it was way to fast and had way too much control authority for a beginner pilot like me which is probably why i haven't had a successful fight with it yet but i just cut down the control surfaces to make less like a 3d plane but with the huge fat wings i didn't know which part of the wing surface i should match the ailerons too. as soon as the big winds were experiencing now subside I'll take it out for another crash test...lol, thanks again
Well done Andrew, Merry Xmas.
and to you too David
Just out of interest, did you ever do the undercambered armin wing? If so, how was it?
No, I couldn't get the undercamber shape to hold with this build method.
Hi. Can I get dimensions, or more appropriately spacing between lines? I would like to reproduce this wing, I got all the material I need.
newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2018/12/3mm-depron-thermal-glider.html
Thank you, Andrew. I have found this video: ua-cam.com/video/Xz12y3wXFKE/v-deo.html , which do I believe was the first version with the thinner airfoil. And this second version is the same except it has 6mm former and a CF spar, am I right? So, from my point of the pattern is as follows: 0250mm . Former is 20mm wide, 6mm CF reinforced.
Sounds about right but fold a short test section first and you can make adjustments to perfect it
i think that flies a lot better than the radian 2m. based off of my experience with the thing, it's a nightmare to deal with. I haven't even made a single video of it because i have to go through 2 hours of preparation on a perfect day just to get it in the air.
How big can you go at the wingspan? you think you could go up to 3 or 4m ? (with the same length)
Could probably go to 3m with more spars
@@AndrewNewton you think you could try?
Was it my eyes or were you getting lift of that sloping field boundary at around 4:00 ?
If so that wing is really _sensitive_
Lovely to watch as is usual
Yes it is very sensitive, fun to fly
hi I want to ask about d2822/14 1450kv motor
can I use this motor with a 15 amp esc with like 7*4 prop on 2700 3 cell lipo or 8inch prop on 2cell
I got the motor and ESC lying around.i want to build something like your trainer
Yes the will be fine as long as you dont go full throttle for long periods. Probably better with a 30A ESC
ok thanks so as long as I don't go full throttle it fine right. I was thinking of building a trainer or something like a glider these were lying around
Better than a two meter Radian indeed. This plane wants interchangeable wings, I think. Congratulations.
Thanks James, wings are very quick to swap being 3 channel only
Hallo andrew can i have some measurments of the plane thank you greetings
Yes
could you post the plans for this glider, thanks
Love it!
What is the cg of this glider
the fuselage’s wing slightly tilted back?
Wing is just a little bit tilted up at the front
@@AndrewNewton ok thank you sir for the information
@@AndrewNewton what your wing auw sir?
@@AndrewNewton mine is 156 gram, is that ok for catch thermal?
@@coverdestroyer3572 That is excellent, much lighter than mine
where do I get the plans and materials to use with the video of how it's done thanks
No plans but this might help ua-cam.com/video/Xz12y3wXFKE/v-deo.html
Hi, did you manage to get the undercamber?
No, it wanted to spring back to flat. Need to revisit it
Hi ,can please explain about what battery did you used ,speed of this model, max flight duration ? Thanks
950mAH 2S Lipo. Flight duration depends on how big the thermals are, speed unknown, slow, fast, in-between
Man you got the life... build a plane in your shed at tonight, maiden in the beautiful morning breeze, then go for a spot of slopeing by the sea in the afternoon lol... envy its a sin I know...😎
I know, life is good
Appriciate what you do for us viewers, andrew.
As a beginner. Can you suggest a group that i can tag along with to learn the craft. Beenleigh brisbane 4207. Thanks from chris
Thanks Chris. No idea about Brisbane sorry
Looks like a improvement. It is sometimes surprising how well these armin wings perform. I wonder how they compare to kfm airfoils. Nice video!
KFMs are fun to fly, but aren't as slippery as an Armin of the same dimensions. So in light wind soaring the KFM glide slope suffers significantly.
Never tried KFM but I Think they need power on constantly. I prefer gliders
Thanks for your answers, armin wing looks like the way to go for more floaty airplanes.
@@aliberkozderya3112 Yes the Armin wing is inexpensive, easy and quick to build and always seems to give reasonable flights. But as Andrew has mentioned, some variations need to be tried. If you want a slow flier, undercamber is bound to rive results, but isn't so easy to include in the Armin.
@@wordreet I agree. I am curious to see how Andrew will manage to built an undercambered armin wing.
I build wings like this,,only the "body" is the problem,,i will make it round,from 3mm depron also...
I think under camber is definitely the way to go, at least for light wind soaring. I'm knocking up a pair of U/C wings myself at the moment. Though I'll admit I've set them aside too often, and won't have time before xmas. But heck, it's not exactly light wind season around here right now.
Heh, I know I always talk about ideas, but never get any pics or videos up. Maybe next time. ;¬)
I'll get me some depron soon.
Yes I want to see your 3m glider
@@AndrewNewton Oh that. You mean my modded ASW28? It's here in the living room/workshop along with everything else. . :¬P
Ok! Nice 😊
Nice!
What is the wingspan?
1.4m
@@AndrewNewton Thanks!
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Sweet. Oh, what's this? I've not seen this location (slope) before - you've got dozens and I don't even have one :( Say, I have a carbon fiber suggestion for you, so bear with me. I know you're happy with arrow shafts and for larger diameters, buying a blank, but in the past I have seen carbon fiber fishing rods go for incredibly dirt cheap prices like maybe $15 USD. Now I know they're tapered, but that is not necessarily a bad thing. There are ways to make that right. After all, the manufacturers have no problem putting handles on these rods. Anyway, I was a fishing fool for decades and I saw those 'clearance' deals from time e.g. Walmart and I just wanted to mention it for your bag of tricks (possibilities).
Good idea, thank you!
The only trouble with the fishing rods are they are ment to bend, take weight like a shock absorber.. Arrow shafts are made, to not bend.
@@dukejet6997 I was thinking more towards the butt end, but you make a good point. I'd still give it a think or two. Actually, I haven't shot a bow since I was a kid and carbon fiber didn't even exist then :)
rwprime1 - I just went into an archery shop and the blank shafts were $2 each 😁
@@dukejet6997 Wow, that's incredible. Here's where I was coming from. In one of his videos, Andrew mentioned paying $35 for a blank which was larger than an arrow shaft because I think it was a boom on a larger plane.
may i have the plane sir?
Plane or plan?
Dimensions here newtonairlines.blogspot.com/2018/12/3mm-depron-thermal-glider.html
@@AndrewNewtonyes thanks sir, but how long from nose to rudder?
@@coverdestroyer3572 820 + 190mm = 1010mm
@@AndrewNewtonthanks but how to make the airfoil sir?
Your up.... early? Late?
6.45am here. Early riser
@@AndrewNewton December 17th...
can you give Pdf
I'll do a dimensions video
thanks
Pilot Andrew,,,,, what is deese? Ho hoo! A sexy new glider in the air, aye.i really think you have the winner there aye Pilot Andrew... ANG-1 andrew newton glider one :-)
Have you moved to Slovenia?
i want to. i think maybe they have better sausage there. ;-)
Wow! That thicker wing really improved an already great design. I can't wait until you build an undercambered wing. I came across this article on Flight Test of a model called the Ridge Runner which has detailed method of constructing an Armin/FT style wing with undercamber. It may be a bit "fiddly" as you would say but definitely worth taking a look at.
www.flitetest.com/articles/ramping-up-the-camber-the-ridge-runner
My under camber attempts are not an improvement so far. Seems like ribs are required to hold the shape.
@@AndrewNewton In the article ribs are used on the bottom exterior to hold the shape and then fill cut slots with hot glue. When ribs are removed the camber stays set. I'm going to give it a go over the holiday. I'll let you know how it works out.
The line between science and art is thinner.
That's where the magic is
Inverted even!
It tolerates inverted rather than enjoys it
@@AndrewNewton Haha!!
Long range slope soar fpv.
Hmmm, maybe not with this one