I'm also 6'1 and I LOVE The size of this bike. I sit comfortably, everything is assessable. I ride 17 miles to work 2-3 days a week and have zero complaints. I always find it weird that reviewers call out 'taller people' having issues on this bike, I have no issues at all.
The"fatal" flaw of this video is the misuse of the term"fatal flaw". That means a flaw that is not correctable or that is inheritances life- threatening. None of the flaws he mentioned are even close.
Try adjusting your rear shocks to the preload height written in the manual. My Rogue says to set it to 278mm bolt center-to-center and once I did that the ride became way more comfortable. It's a bit of a pain, but it's definitely a different feeling bike after you adjust it to spec.
I bought my bobber new from the dealership, and the first thing I did was upgrade to the Fox shocks and Comfort+ seat. I have no issues going over bumps and potholes, even deep ones. The ride is smooth and comfortable. I still have to stop to gas up every 100 miles or so, but I can ride all day without back pain. The solo seat you've chosen is rigid with barely any flex at all. There are other seat manufacturers that make the same type of solo seat but include springs to make it more comfortable. Edit: That being said, I think if you're paying $13k - $16k for a motorcycle, the manufacturer should at least put decent quality shocks and seats on the bikes they sell. I know that the aftermarket is another revenue stream and they make loads selling that stuff, but it's kinda underhanded in my opinion for a motorcycle manufacturer to put inferior parts on a bike in order to drive aftermarket sales.
underrated comment, most people won’t adjust their suspension from stock, or worse they’ll wreck the setup and think the bike is awful. The truth is, most bikes with any adjustability can be setup to ride pretty well. Start with sag, getting your preload right, adjust rebound based on how much the bike bounces back and forth from a good push straight down on the rear and the head stock, then if you’re lucky, play with the compression to deal with bumps the way you like. There are videos on youtube that go into the finer detail of it, but it’s not THAT hard to get a decent setup.
I ride a 2006 Sportster 1200L. While I have added a few things (extra chrome, aftermarket exhaust, sissy bar, saddlebags, etc.) it still has the stock seat, and the stock suspension. I bought this bike with 3600 miles on it, I now have almost 20,000 miles on it, and I've had no issues with the seat or suspension. It does have mid controls, so I can support some of my weight with my legs over bumps. The Sportster 1200 is also a small bike, but it fits me at 6' 240 just fine. But I NEVER carry a passenger. That is just no fun at all. I learned that decades ago. If you are going to carry a passenger, get a car. I love the stock seat on the XL1200L, because it's only 25.5" high. I'm 64 and have bad knee and hip joints, and have trouble getting my leg over taller seats. The Sportster seat is perfect. My Sportster has a 4.5 gallon tank, and while it does not look right on a Sportster, at least not to me, it will give you a 200 mile range. The top is also completely flat, and a 14L magnetic tank bag fits perfectly.
I’m 6 foot and I can ride one just fine. It also depends on your leg length. Not all 6 foot tall people have the same length legs. Most of my height is in my torso so I have relatively short legs
I got my 2020 bobber due to the fact that my inseam is 30 inches. 5' 5" tall. The suspension does suck. I did get some floor boards for it and a new comfort seat. Waiting for the winshield and a longer clutch cable. I took the handle bars back towards me 2" and I need to take them back 2 more inches. Good video. I had a 1200 Sportster and the power of the Bobber is way more impressive.
Fatal flaws ? Bullshit , I own one of these bikes and yes the suspension is hard , so adjust it ? I have no problem with the seat , so how are these fatal flaws ? Awesome bike ! 👌🖕
I upgraded to Öhlins rear shocks and they improved the feel of bumps like 70% The upgraded seat from Indian works for me. The stock seat should be a crime.
I bought a Harley Sportster back in '79. Not long afterward, I got rear ended at a red light one night. The bike got stuck in somebody's grill. It never tipped over, but after my back hit the sissy bar and bent it, I went over the handle bars and rolled into the intersection. With the insurance money I began bobbing it. I cut the frame under the seat, taking out a section of the horizontal at the rear, right under the seat, and bent it down. Now I needed a new oil tank made. I had someone make me a cylindrical tank out of stainless steel and put that through the odd shaped triangle, replacing the large battery for a small one which I put between the highway pegs. (XLCH- kickstart only) Then I picked out a rigid frame seat that had a tall back and with a little bit of hammer work, it fit the rear fender which I also bobbed in the back, moving the tail light. I got an axed Harley tank that was 3.5 gallon. It looked like an old K Harley tank from the 50's that somebody moved the filler from the center of the tank over to the right side so it would fill nicely to the top when refueling. It had a raised crease in the center that tapered down to nothing. It looked real nice especially with the new oil tank which also showed a chrome filler cap on the right side. Last week I looked at a Harley 48, and it seemed to me to be a hack job. It's like they robbed the suspension just to get a low seat height. Where were the engineers? I could have done better with a hack saw is what I was thinking. I wonder if a 1200 would start easy with only a kickstart. With fancy new electronics and fuel injection, I think it would. Then you don't need a big battery, and it would be lighter. Nothing wrong with kickstart if it starts well.
What gloves are you wearing? I like that zipper guessing it's for venting but hoping it will give some relief in the palm are I have extremely large mits in the palm area.
I knew I had to make some modifications when buying the scout rogue new. I added Indian piggy back shocks which also gave me an extra inch of travel. This is a must have and made a huge difference. No more bottoming out the suspension in the rear. The Rogue has a syndicate seat which is great to start with. I also added the Indian 2 into 1 exhaust and performance air intake. For safety I added the LED headlight. It's been a great bike for me. It's not meant for two up riding and I'm ok with that. The size and weight of the bike are perfect for 5'10" riders. Your "fatal flaws" apply to EVERY motorcycle, because no motorcycle fits ALL riders well. They "characteristics" that you can either live with, or it's not for you. Not fatal flaws.
I went with Progresive 970 piggy backs. I ordered them an inch longer than stock. much better ride and increased lean angle. I never scrapped another peg after the shock replacement. For the seat I went with a Corbin. It eliminated getting pulled off the seat during rapid exceleration. For the headlight, anothe flaw, I went with the Indian pathfinder LED. By the way, a "Fatal" flaw is one that can result in death. Non of the flaws you mentioned meet that criteria. I forget wich bike but one indian cruser is notorius for the death wabble at around 45 mph. That is a fatal flaw. I think indian has since corrected that by using different tires. By the way, I loved my Bobber. Especially after I corrected the flaws, and the exsaust .LOL... For that I went with the freedom performance radical radius (Will also increase lean ange on right side). Another flaw is the spedo. After about a year they are known to collect moisture and the exposed plastic parts will disinigrate if directly splashed with gas. Believe me, it is a sight to see the bezzle disinagrate before your eyes and chunks fall to the ground. All it takes is a defective gas nozzle at the pump. It can be replaced under warranty if within the period. If not, it's over 400 bucks. On another note, Great video, great need to know info.
I am 5’10” and have been on a dual sport for a long time now. I am tired of standing on my tippie toes or always one legging it. Am considering just getting a dirt bike and a scout bobber for offroad / road life
In terms of suspension comfort, the 48 wins by a small margin because of the 3 inch travel vs the 2 on the scout bobber. In terms of suspension for handling, I feel the scout bobber handles curves better. I think the scout is overall a “better” bike, more power and is really fun to ride. However, the 48 has the look, sound, and overall more “character”. I love my scout bobber, but I do miss my 48 still.
Yes it is a small frame bike .. I ride my wife scout often I'm 6 2 we set it up with floorboards mustang seat helps with the ride ... at 50 -56 mpg the 3.3 gallon tank is just as around 125 miles we are usually ready for a break .. So I wouldn't call them flaws .. but short coming .. But the bike wasn't designed as a long haul touring bike It would be nice if Indian came up with a touring bike based on the scout motor
Agree that the bobber wasn’t designed for touring. They’re releasing a new line of scouts and I’d be interested in seeing if they make any improvements or changes
If your 6’2 like myself just put 10” risers on and get the extended foot controls its perfectly fine, still light and smaller than the Chief Dark Horse which will be my bike after the scout but its no problem on the Rogue, and the newest sport scout has better options with the 10” riser
Agree it’s an amazing looking bike. For that reason alone I can deal with the flaws. I have a low rider s as well, and I’ve been finding myself wanting to take the scout bobber out more for quick rips. I like the low rider s for longer rides 2+ hours
I had a 2018 Indian scout bobber ABS blacked out did a lot of custom work to it and it looked awesome sad I had to trade it in for my challenger though but eventually I’ll buy another scout
I’m a short Filipino old man 5’5-5’6 would this in your opinion be a beginner motorcycle? I get 50/50 answers just getting opinions from different people
I think it would be a good option as a beginner, it’s a bike that can grow with you and won’t bore you after a couple months. With that being said, it’s a powerful bike so take it slow and practice and you’ll be ok
I traded my scout rouge for a Harley and man do I miss that bike. It isn’t comfortable for longer rides, and its suspension is hot garbage, but despite all of its flaws I regret trading her in so so much.
l love my indian scout but i agree the suspension is shit you feel every bump i tried to adjust but still bad, another thing is because its low when cornering tend to scrape the foot pegs or mufflers and last thing is the fuel light its so inconsistant in knowing how far you can get on it i ran out of fuel once no gas station but i shook the bike once conked out made it about 2ks to gas station
The way I think about a 100-mile fuel range is in a real-world kind of way. Suppose you just filled up the tank the day before. Then you awake in the morning and decide to go to a place 30 miles out in the country where there are no gas stations. Not at all uncommon where I live. So, you get back from your trip, and you have to fill up again or you would not be able to do that again, and for what? To get somewhere 30 miles away. So, your practical range for going anywhere seems to be about 30 miles. Who wants to go to the gas station every single day? Not me.
the scout bobber bars are much lower, the bars on the bike you’re riding look like the scout bobber 20 which results in your back being straighter, and more comfortable. The rebel has a slightly different bar angle and feels a bit awkward despite having the same bar rise as the 20. The standard bobber looks amazing, but the 20 or rebel are much more forgiving on longer rides.
thx for this critical infos, im 6ft 4 and 220 i was looking at this and the rebel 1100 but me going from san diego to calgary or to florida prob wouldn't be great
There's nothing wrong with a bike that doesn't take a passenger as if it was a big bike. If you want that, get a big bike. There are advantages to a small bike. Some people never take a passenger, or so rarely and for such a short ride it doesn't matter. They can sit on the fender or on a small pad.
I rode one of these and I was wondering what everyone was complaining about with the suspension. It feels better than my Ninja 400 lol. But then I realized most people are probably used to cushy cruisers and I'm used to a sport bike.
You can easily improve the suspension if you wanted to by upgrading the rear shocks to something that will add some travel, and getting a more comfortable seat. It'll never be as smooth as a touring bike, but I can ride all day without any discomfort.
@@IronBornRider thanks, I’ve had my eye on a Scout Bobber for about 2 years now but my budget wouldn’t stretch to brand new - I am in a position now where I could get a used one however.. just trying to decide if it would bug me not having a fuel gauge on it 😅
I love my Scout Bobber, The style dictates the low seat and suspension travel. This bike is a cruisin' the backroads dream. It is not a cruiser for a cross country ride. I am 5'8 250 and this this is awesome for just riding with a few friends and cruising around with no destination on the weekend. It seems you have the mini apes or is that a Bobber 20 which comes with them? To be fair I did get the comfort seat so I could ride longer like far enough to need gas before I need to stand up. I got the Indian piggy backs for Christmas, but have not installed as in New England its too cold and too much rain snow on a regular basis...My son had watched a few of these videos and figured it would be a good gift for me. None of these are "Fatal" flaws I think that's a little dramatic...
If you are buying a Bobber it pretty much says that you won't be carrying a passenger. Two on a Bobber (look up the original Bobbers) is just contrary to what they are designed for
Nice video. Fatal flaws may be a little strong. I have the regular Scout, so only major difference is 1 more inch travel, and cosmetic. I would hope that anyone considering this bike has test rode it or done their research. If they are still dissatisfied, it's on them I guess. You may want dealer to look at your bike if you are only getting 100 mi. out of a tank. I regularly go 135, and then maybe low fuel light comes on. Keep in mind, hard breaking will also activate low fuel warning. I have a wish list also for the scout, but @ price point they are selling at toy may need to move up to a bigger bike. My 2 cents
I upgraded my rear shocks on the Bobber with an extra inch of travel. It makes a major difference. The Scout Bobber has the most power to weight of the scout line iirc... I am also getting around 110 miles per tank.
I understand that the 2015 and 2016 year models rear shock absorbers on the Scout weren't good but the years before and after I have heard nothing about.
2" of suspension travel? [laughs in Street Glide Special] First time? :D I have the same flaws in my own bobber, even if it's not an Indian. It's just inherent with the beauty of a bobber :D
I traded it for a '19 H-D Sportglide. I liked my Indian however it was'nt good for touring. The Sportglide had cruise control and clam shell bags. Very good suspension.
Just a quick question did you ever adjust your suspension for your weight? You know its set at a pretty stiff middle point from factory. I think you need more experience before you make these flawed observations.
@@goddal8635 flawed observations? It’s not an observation, it’s a fact. It has 2 inches of suspension travel, no amount of adjusting is going to change that and yea I’ve adjusted to my weight and it still sucks. There’s a reason why so many people upgrade to better shocks with 3+ inches of travel. More experience? I’ve demo’d several bikes from Harley, Indian, Yamaha, Kawasaki, etc, and the scout bobber has one of the worst, if not the worst stock rear suspension I’ve tried.
Yeah I get where you’re coming from. I personally don’t ride with a passenger, but for the sake of the video I presented information that I’ve come across on forums and Facebook groups. There are a lot of riders out there who ride 2 up on the bobber
Lol it’s “too” not “to”. What’s a bobber concept? Do you mean a bobber style motorcycle? Concept is an idea. Maybe spend less time watching videos and more time reading a book. Truth.
@@IronBornRider That's perfect advice for you my friend. I don't have to read, I ride. PS: Thx for the missing "o", would have looked for it, but than didn't care.
@@markusnachname1619 lmao “I don’t have to read. I ride.” That about sums up your intelligence. Thanks for the laughs and don’t forget to read the street signs
The only flaw with this bike, is that it isn't in my garage
Fix that flaw immediately
Hahaha
i fix mine and i have a scout rogue
😂👍
Mate mine got delivered today and i can’t remember a happier day than today in a long time 🎉
I’m 6’1 and the bike feels perfect for me and doesn’t look small on me either. Its the forward controls and mini apes that does the trick
I'm also 6'1 and I LOVE The size of this bike. I sit comfortably, everything is assessable. I ride 17 miles to work 2-3 days a week and have zero complaints. I always find it weird that reviewers call out 'taller people' having issues on this bike, I have no issues at all.
Good to know. I'm 6'2" 210 pounds and this is the bike I'm likely to buy sometime early this year.
Same size and it feels perfect under me
So, would the Rogue be better than for tall riders since it has the bigger handle bars?
@@johnh2055 Have you went and tested one yet? Im your height and weight and dont wont to look like Andre the Giant on it.
The"fatal" flaw of this video is the misuse of the term"fatal flaw". That means a flaw that is not correctable or that is inheritances life- threatening. None of the flaws he mentioned are even close.
I don’t think you understand how quotation marks work
Try adjusting your rear shocks to the preload height written in the manual. My Rogue says to set it to 278mm bolt center-to-center and once I did that the ride became way more comfortable. It's a bit of a pain, but it's definitely a different feeling bike after you adjust it to spec.
Sounds good!
I bought my bobber new from the dealership, and the first thing I did was upgrade to the Fox shocks and Comfort+ seat. I have no issues going over bumps and potholes, even deep ones. The ride is smooth and comfortable. I still have to stop to gas up every 100 miles or so, but I can ride all day without back pain. The solo seat you've chosen is rigid with barely any flex at all. There are other seat manufacturers that make the same type of solo seat but include springs to make it more comfortable.
Edit: That being said, I think if you're paying $13k - $16k for a motorcycle, the manufacturer should at least put decent quality shocks and seats on the bikes they sell. I know that the aftermarket is another revenue stream and they make loads selling that stuff, but it's kinda underhanded in my opinion for a motorcycle manufacturer to put inferior parts on a bike in order to drive aftermarket sales.
I’m 5’10” and weigh 220. I adjusted my shocks to match my weight and added a gel pad under the seat cover. Much nicer ride now.
Nice, might have to try that
underrated comment, most people won’t adjust their suspension from stock, or worse they’ll wreck the setup and think the bike is awful. The truth is, most bikes with any adjustability can be setup to ride pretty well. Start with sag, getting your preload right, adjust rebound based on how much the bike bounces back and forth from a good push straight down on the rear and the head stock, then if you’re lucky, play with the compression to deal with bumps the way you like. There are videos on youtube that go into the finer detail of it, but it’s not THAT hard to get a decent setup.
I'm 6'2 180 love it so nimble and quick, ride in the smokies mountains.
Right on 👍
I ride a 2006 Sportster 1200L. While I have added a few things (extra chrome, aftermarket exhaust, sissy bar, saddlebags, etc.) it still has the stock seat, and the stock suspension. I bought this bike with 3600 miles on it, I now have almost 20,000 miles on it, and I've had no issues with the seat or suspension. It does have mid controls, so I can support some of my weight with my legs over bumps. The Sportster 1200 is also a small bike, but it fits me at 6' 240 just fine. But I NEVER carry a passenger. That is just no fun at all. I learned that decades ago. If you are going to carry a passenger, get a car. I love the stock seat on the XL1200L, because it's only 25.5" high. I'm 64 and have bad knee and hip joints, and have trouble getting my leg over taller seats. The Sportster seat is perfect. My Sportster has a 4.5 gallon tank, and while it does not look right on a Sportster, at least not to me, it will give you a 200 mile range. The top is also completely flat, and a 14L magnetic tank bag fits perfectly.
Ive read that tightening the rear suspension 2 full turns on each side helps a ton. Sounds counter-intuitive, but apparently works.
Might have to try that out
I’m 6 foot and I can ride one just fine. It also depends on your leg length. Not all 6 foot tall people have the same length legs. Most of my height is in my torso so I have relatively short legs
Yeah I have a longer torso and a shorter inseam
Have a few friends with the scout bobber that are 6' + and they have absolutely no issues with the scout for the size problem
I’m in a scout bobber Facebook group and a lot of people 6+ have mentioned the opposite. I suppose it’s subjective
I got my 2020 bobber due to the fact that my inseam is 30 inches. 5' 5" tall. The suspension does suck. I did get some floor boards for it and a new comfort seat. Waiting for the winshield and a longer clutch cable. I took the handle bars back towards me 2" and I need to take them back 2 more inches. Good video. I had a 1200 Sportster and the power of the Bobber is way more impressive.
Thank you for all heads up, very informative video 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
Not really flaws, it just is what it is. Some bikes are made for cruising, some for ripping. This is the latter. I want one!
I like how you put it. Very true
Exactly, bobbers are not long distance bikes!
It needs upgrades to do either of those with any comfort at all. Seat and rear shocks for sure.
@@zeroneutral probably true, but still better than a hardtail. You need to give up something to get that low, I guess…
Fatal flaws ? Bullshit , I own one of these bikes and yes the suspension is hard , so adjust it ? I have no problem with the seat , so how are these fatal flaws ? Awesome bike ! 👌🖕
I upgraded to Öhlins rear shocks and they improved the feel of bumps like 70%
The upgraded seat from Indian works for me. The stock seat should be a crime.
The ohlins look great with the bobber
I bought a Harley Sportster back in '79. Not long afterward, I got rear ended at a red light one night. The bike got stuck in somebody's grill. It never tipped over, but after my back hit the sissy bar and bent it, I went over the handle bars and rolled into the intersection. With the insurance money I began bobbing it. I cut the frame under the seat, taking out a section of the horizontal at the rear, right under the seat, and bent it down. Now I needed a new oil tank made. I had someone make me a cylindrical tank out of stainless steel and put that through the odd shaped triangle, replacing the large battery for a small one which I put between the highway pegs. (XLCH- kickstart only) Then I picked out a rigid frame seat that had a tall back and with a little bit of hammer work, it fit the rear fender which I also bobbed in the back, moving the tail light. I got an axed Harley tank that was 3.5 gallon. It looked like an old K Harley tank from the 50's that somebody moved the filler from the center of the tank over to the right side so it would fill nicely to the top when refueling. It had a raised crease in the center that tapered down to nothing. It looked real nice especially with the new oil tank which also showed a chrome filler cap on the right side.
Last week I looked at a Harley 48, and it seemed to me to be a hack job. It's like they robbed the suspension just to get a low seat height. Where were the engineers? I could have done better with a hack saw is what I was thinking. I wonder if a 1200 would start easy with only a kickstart. With fancy new electronics and fuel injection, I think it would. Then you don't need a big battery, and it would be lighter. Nothing wrong with kickstart if it starts well.
So upgrading front and back shocks as well as a nice seat would make the ride alot smoother?!?
That’ll definitely smooth it out
What gloves are you wearing? I like that zipper guessing it's for venting but hoping it will give some relief in the palm are I have extremely large mits in the palm area.
It’s from Joe rocket, I think it’s called Briton gloves. Check them out!
Did you leather wrap your grips? I did mine and I really like the look of it especially as its worn in a bit.
I did! I think they’re called trip machine? It’s been solid
@@IronBornRider Yep. I have the same ones but in red.
I got excited when you started headed down to Ale House.
As you should
I knew I had to make some modifications when buying the scout rogue new. I added Indian piggy back shocks which also gave me an extra inch of travel. This is a must have and made a huge difference. No more bottoming out the suspension in the rear. The Rogue has a syndicate seat which is great to start with. I also added the Indian 2 into 1 exhaust and performance air intake. For safety I added the LED headlight. It's been a great bike for me. It's not meant for two up riding and I'm ok with that. The size and weight of the bike are perfect for 5'10" riders. Your "fatal flaws" apply to EVERY motorcycle, because no motorcycle fits ALL riders well. They "characteristics" that you can either live with, or it's not for you. Not fatal flaws.
I went with Progresive 970 piggy backs. I ordered them an inch longer than stock. much better ride and increased lean angle. I never scrapped another peg after the shock replacement. For the seat I went with a Corbin. It eliminated getting pulled off the seat during rapid exceleration. For the headlight, anothe flaw, I went with the Indian pathfinder LED. By the way, a "Fatal" flaw is one that can result in death. Non of the flaws you mentioned meet that criteria. I forget wich bike but one indian cruser is notorius for the death wabble at around 45 mph. That is a fatal flaw. I think indian has since corrected that by using different tires. By the way, I loved my Bobber. Especially after I corrected the flaws, and the exsaust .LOL... For that I went with the freedom performance radical radius (Will also increase lean ange on right side). Another flaw is the spedo. After about a year they are known to collect moisture and the exposed plastic parts will disinigrate if directly splashed with gas. Believe me, it is a sight to see the bezzle disinagrate before your eyes and chunks fall to the ground. All it takes is a defective gas nozzle at the pump. It can be replaced under warranty if within the period. If not, it's over 400 bucks. On another note, Great video, great need to know info.
How do you like the mini floor boards?Trying to decide between upgrading my pegs or getting the floor boards.
I love the mini floor boards. It’s one of the few cheap upgrades that pay huge dividends
Try a gel seat pad they sell good ones at places that sell wheelchairs and mobility scooters.
Nice! Hadn’t thought of that
I am 5’10” and have been on a dual sport for a long time now. I am tired of standing on my tippie toes or always one legging it. Am considering just getting a dirt bike and a scout bobber for offroad / road life
Good combo to have
Coming from 48, which suspension do you think its better? Im between these 2 bikes and id love your perspective on this. Thanks
In terms of suspension comfort, the 48 wins by a small margin because of the 3 inch travel vs the 2 on the scout bobber. In terms of suspension for handling, I feel the scout bobber handles curves better. I think the scout is overall a “better” bike, more power and is really fun to ride. However, the 48 has the look, sound, and overall more “character”. I love my scout bobber, but I do miss my 48 still.
The vibrations past 4.5k rpm are also a deal breaker for me on the Scout platform.
I’m used to vibrations on my Harleys so it’s not too bad for me lol
Yes it is a small frame bike .. I ride my wife scout often I'm 6 2 we set it up with floorboards mustang seat helps with the ride ... at 50 -56 mpg the 3.3 gallon tank is just as around 125 miles we are usually ready for a break ..
So I wouldn't call them flaws .. but short coming ..
But the bike wasn't designed as a long haul touring bike
It would be nice if Indian came up with a touring bike based on the scout motor
Agree that the bobber wasn’t designed for touring. They’re releasing a new line of scouts and I’d be interested in seeing if they make any improvements or changes
What did you film this with and what mic did you use? Great review!
Thanks! Just a dji action 4 and an amazon mic. Nothing fancy
If your 6’2 like myself just put 10” risers on and get the extended foot controls its perfectly fine, still light and smaller than the Chief Dark Horse which will be my bike after the scout but its no problem on the Rogue, and the newest sport scout has better options with the 10” riser
What do bikers mean when they say 2 inches of travel? Also, will this bike fit me? 5’3 and 180lbs
It’ll fit you I think because it’s very low to the ground. The 2 inches of travel refers to the amount of travel in the rear shock.
Alot of fatal flaws... but it looks AMAZING! I have 3 bikes in my sight, Street bob 114, low rider S and indian scout bobber... it's a hard decision.
Agree it’s an amazing looking bike. For that reason alone I can deal with the flaws. I have a low rider s as well, and I’ve been finding myself wanting to take the scout bobber out more for quick rips. I like the low rider s for longer rides 2+ hours
I love my Scout but I would look at the new Indian Sport Chief with 10 inch risers. Its a bit of a upgrade over the scout.
Low rider S for sure. Just brought home a black '23 with 2BR exhaust. Sounds great, looks great and chicks dig it.
I had a 2018 Indian scout bobber ABS blacked out did a lot of custom work to it and it looked awesome sad I had to trade it in for my challenger though but eventually I’ll buy another scout
I’m a short Filipino old man 5’5-5’6 would this in your opinion be a beginner motorcycle? I get 50/50 answers just getting opinions from different people
I think it would be a good option as a beginner, it’s a bike that can grow with you and won’t bore you after a couple months. With that being said, it’s a powerful bike so take it slow and practice and you’ll be ok
I traded my scout rouge for a Harley and man do I miss that bike. It isn’t comfortable for longer rides, and its suspension is hot garbage, but despite all of its flaws I regret trading her in so so much.
Which Harley did you end up getting? And I agree despite its flaws it’s such a beast of a bike
Did you change the handlebars? If so, to what?
They’re stock handlebars. The scout bobber 20 comes with mini apes
l love my indian scout but i agree the suspension is shit you feel every bump i tried to adjust but still bad, another thing is because its low when cornering tend to scrape the foot pegs or mufflers and last thing is the fuel light its so inconsistant in knowing how far you can get on it i ran out of fuel once no gas station but i shook the bike once conked out made it about 2ks to gas station
All good points
when you said "fatal", i thought they were going to be fatal. flaws that can cause you crash. but it turned out be a comfort issue.
Yeah sorry about that. Didn’t mean to mislead, I put fatal in quotes meaning the biggest thing I can find wrong with the scout
The way I think about a 100-mile fuel range is in a real-world kind of way. Suppose you just filled up the tank the day before. Then you awake in the morning and decide to go to a place 30 miles out in the country where there are no gas stations. Not at all uncommon where I live. So, you get back from your trip, and you have to fill up again or you would not be able to do that again, and for what? To get somewhere 30 miles away. So, your practical range for going anywhere seems to be about 30 miles. Who wants to go to the gas station every single day? Not me.
I look at mine as a commuter bike. For true cruising I want a challenger or chieftain.
Are those the reduced reach Indian bars?
They’re stock bars on an Indian scout 20.
the scout bobber bars are much lower, the bars on the bike you’re riding look like the scout bobber 20 which results in your back being straighter, and more comfortable. The rebel has a slightly different bar angle and feels a bit awkward despite having the same bar rise as the 20. The standard bobber looks amazing, but the 20 or rebel are much more forgiving on longer rides.
thx for this critical infos, im 6ft 4 and 220 i was looking at this and the rebel 1100 but me going from san diego to calgary or to florida prob wouldn't be great
Comfort wise wouldn’t be great but you could get an upgraded seat. Should help a lot
What did you end up getting?
There's nothing wrong with a bike that doesn't take a passenger as if it was a big bike. If you want that, get a big bike. There are advantages to a small bike. Some people never take a passenger, or so rarely and for such a short ride it doesn't matter. They can sit on the fender or on a small pad.
Agree. Most of the riding I do is solo around town
Are those stock pipes? Sounds good!
Thanks! They’re just cheap amazon slip ons
Bike sounds like a beast! Can you do exhaust video?
The first time I saw this bike I thought “beautiful…but where’s the rear suspension?” I’m surprised to see such little travel on newer bikes.
To me the biggest flaw would be the tiny gas tank and no fuel gauge to go with that. Otherwise I think this is one of the best looking bikes around.
I’m ok with the small gas tank only because I need those stretch breaks on this bike 😂
I rode one of these and I was wondering what everyone was complaining about with the suspension. It feels better than my Ninja 400 lol. But then I realized most people are probably used to cushy cruisers and I'm used to a sport bike.
Yeah cruisers are built with comfort in mind. Much different from sport bikes which are different purpose
You can easily improve the suspension if you wanted to by upgrading the rear shocks to something that will add some travel, and getting a more comfortable seat. It'll never be as smooth as a touring bike, but I can ride all day without any discomfort.
I'm 6'4 love my scout bobber it's comfortable to me, but my back gets sore after 4 hours
For me it’s about 2 hours but I have the 1920 solo seat so it’s not that comfy
Do these have a fuel gauge in any way?
No they don’t. The new 2025 models do have a fuel gauge
@@IronBornRider thanks, I’ve had my eye on a Scout Bobber for about 2 years now but my budget wouldn’t stretch to brand new - I am in a position now where I could get a used one however.. just trying to decide if it would bug me not having a fuel gauge on it 😅
@@dt3963 I came from a sportster so I was already used to not having one. I just reset the trip meter and fill up every 100 miles or so
Yeah it will be interesting is it all new or just another version of the current platform
They’ve been pretty cryptic so we’ll have to wait and see
I love my Scout Bobber, The style dictates the low seat and suspension travel. This bike is a cruisin' the backroads dream. It is not a cruiser for a cross country ride. I am 5'8 250 and this this is awesome for just riding with a few friends and cruising around with no destination on the weekend.
It seems you have the mini apes or is that a Bobber 20 which comes with them? To be fair I did get the comfort seat so I could ride longer like far enough to need gas before I need to stand up. I got the Indian piggy backs for Christmas, but have not installed as in New England its too cold and too much rain snow on a regular basis...My son had watched a few of these videos and figured it would be a good gift for me.
None of these are "Fatal" flaws I think that's a little dramatic...
If you are buying a Bobber it pretty much says that you won't be carrying a passenger. Two on a Bobber (look up the original Bobbers) is just contrary to what they are designed for
What gloves are those?
Joe rocket is the brand. I don’t remember the model name
@@IronBornRider Found em! Ty
Nice video. Fatal flaws may be a little strong. I have the regular Scout, so only major difference is 1 more inch travel, and cosmetic. I would hope that anyone considering this bike has test rode it or done their research. If they are still dissatisfied, it's on them I guess. You may want dealer to look at your bike if you are only getting 100 mi. out of a tank. I regularly go 135, and then maybe low fuel light comes on. Keep in mind, hard breaking will also activate low fuel warning. I have a wish list also for the scout, but @ price point they are selling at toy may need to move up to a bigger bike. My 2 cents
Agree that fatal flaws is strong which is why I decided to put it in quotes on the title. It just had a nice ring to it.
I upgraded my rear shocks on the Bobber with an extra inch of travel. It makes a major difference.
The Scout Bobber has the most power to weight of the scout line iirc... I am also getting around 110 miles per tank.
I understand that the 2015 and 2016 year models rear shock absorbers on the Scout weren't good but the years before and after I have heard nothing about.
2" of suspension travel? [laughs in Street Glide Special] First time? :D
I have the same flaws in my own bobber, even if it's not an Indian. It's just inherent with the beauty of a bobber :D
Öhlins IN124 will give you I think 3.5" of travel on the Bobber... They don't seem to un-bob it IMO. Best upgrade after the seat.
U wanna "Bike;"get A Schwinn. A Machine-Xtreme=Cycle.
it does look big or long in picture pause
What gloves are those? They look nice
Thrashin supply!
As for the small tank. Mount a rotopax 2 gallon on top . Would look pretty cool. LOL. No, really nice bike, sounds excellent.
lol thanks frank!
Move somewhere with better roads! 😂
Lol I wish
for hetero me...flawed
like a bad but gorgeous woman...
just too beautiful to avoid.
Indian basically recreated the Magna with a bigger motor and fuel injection.
Had a '18, it was lightweight 100 HP ran like a monster loved it very quick !!!! Yes the suspension needs some after market shocks for sure.
Agreed!
Had? What did you replace it with?
I traded it for a '19 H-D Sportglide. I liked my Indian however it was'nt good for touring. The Sportglide had cruise control and clam shell bags. Very good suspension.
Just a quick question did you ever adjust your suspension for your weight? You know its set at a pretty stiff middle point from factory. I think you need more experience before you make these flawed observations.
@@goddal8635 flawed observations? It’s not an observation, it’s a fact. It has 2 inches of suspension travel, no amount of adjusting is going to change that and yea I’ve adjusted to my weight and it still sucks. There’s a reason why so many people upgrade to better shocks with 3+ inches of travel. More experience? I’ve demo’d several bikes from Harley, Indian, Yamaha, Kawasaki, etc, and the scout bobber has one of the worst, if not the worst stock rear suspension I’ve tried.
The only true flaw in this bike since I own it is that it doesn’t have a friken fuel gauge
I’m 6’2 but man I can get rid of this bike I have to have it
It’s a fun bike. You may want to keep it
@@IronBornRider getting one next month homie and tbh a month feels like a year so far 😫
he’s mad it’s better stock than any Harley he could find modded…
I bought the scout but I’m mad? Ok genius
Fatal flaw? i thought something was wrong with it that would kill you, click bait
Gotcha
His criticism of the bike is flawed!
Not really a FATAL FLAW. Just personal preference 🤷♂️
Fair point
Ǒhlins
Right on
Yes. Öhlins IN124
Err ... you bought a single seat Bobber and complain it's not good for pillion passengers???
Yeah I get where you’re coming from. I personally don’t ride with a passenger, but for the sake of the video I presented information that I’ve come across on forums and Facebook groups. There are a lot of riders out there who ride 2 up on the bobber
The only thing I heard I agreed with was that you have no interest in 2 up riding the scout.
Sure, it’s just one man’s opinion
Whatever bike you buy... if there's 5" or less travel on the suspension WHAT DO YOU EXPECT Dude????
Hm interesting because in the video I said I knew what I was getting into in regard to the suspension.
Nothing fatal about it.
Those are not fatal flaws, you want a real fatal flaw? Let's talk about the stator plug....
Come on man it's a bobber, it's supposed to be bare bones, if you want confort get a Springfield or chief,
Yeah it’s a bobber, but it’s also $13-14k motorcycle. They can’t put some decent shocks for that price?
I love mine.. I ride the shit out of it..
No real fatal flaws, he's just to weak for the Bobber and has no idea of the Bobber concept, sorry but the truth is harder than the Bobber.
Lol it’s “too” not “to”. What’s a bobber concept? Do you mean a bobber style motorcycle? Concept is an idea. Maybe spend less time watching videos and more time reading a book. Truth.
@@IronBornRider That's perfect advice for you my friend. I don't have to read, I ride.
PS: Thx for the missing "o", would have looked for it, but than didn't care.
@@markusnachname1619 lmao “I don’t have to read. I ride.” That about sums up your intelligence. Thanks for the laughs and don’t forget to read the street signs
@@IronBornRider I can benchpress a sentence! ☝
Indian Scott bobber? Engrish tuff.
Clown comment bro
@@IronBornRider you say Scott everytime, speak clearer or take a class.
@@leebrewer7394 lol or maybe clean out your ears old man
No “Fatal” flaws! Fatal means death!! Why would you be looking to upgrade a bike with “Fatal” flaws?