This was straight up ROBBERY. Much respect to Busy Bee (he is an all time legend), but he did NOT win this battle. To me, his rhyme style sounded outdated in 1985. Kurtis Blow cost Roxanne the victory.
Thank you. Busy Bee's rhyme style was definitely getting left in the dust by other up and coming MCs who were pushing the lyrical boundaries by adding different cadences, poetic technique, innovation, vocabulary, etc. Again, I say that Busy Bee was a legend, and he could rock a party like few others ever could, but when it comes to lyricism, he was outclassed in 1985. His rhyme style in this battle may have sounded fresh in 1979-82, but not in this competition.
On the djvlad interview Shnate talked about this battle and how Kurtis couldn't let her win because it would look bad for hip hop moving forward at the time, it could have the best rapper in the world being a teenage girl. I wish this was addressed in the movie.
For real. I was so surprised and a little disappointed that this or the Frukwan battle wasn't mentioned in the movie. This is what many people remember and fear Shante for.
This was the battle Roxanne Shante stated that Kurtis Blow confessed they rigged it to ensure Busy Bee won because they didn't want a 15 year old girl be regarded as the rap supreme.
Wow. Roxanne Shante was robbed indeed. Busy Bee came thru with old school sounding writtens and got bested by a teenage girl. I can't wait to see Roxanne's bio on Netflix.
Shante lost only because she cursed. Busy been told her before the battle it was ok to curse basically setting her up to loose. On top of that u can tell busy be wrote his rhymes. Shante was spitting off the dome.
Busy Bee had a way of convincing people..."sniff".. We all know about Kurtis Blow's habit. After listening to a lot of these tapes, it's like most of these battles were handed to him until Kool Moe Dee said fk that in 86...but Busy Bee won that contest too?? Most of these shows seemed rigged in his favor.
Roxanne's style was so interesting. She was really gifted at battle rapping. Busy Bee's style even for 84 sounded outdated and wasn't battel rapping. No disses.
Yep, Shante was robbed. No doubt that she was rhyming off of the dome. She was directly addressing Busy Bee’s rhymes. No disrespect to Busy; both are legends.
No offense to the bee, but he couldn't beat his meat with five sets of hands and gallon of vasoline. Emcee'n a party and battling are two ENTIRELY different sets of skills.
It sounded like the people were booing when Busy Bee was announced the winner. Shanté should have one. Obviously, she was better. The audience knew it, and even the judges knew it. Some of them were probably paid to score in Busy Bee's favor. They wouldn't let a teenage girl beat a grown man in rap battling back then.
This is my first time listenin' to this, and I must say; Shante got robbed, man!! How in the fuck could they give this "victory" to Busy Bee?! Like, seriously?! Shante was spittin' that nuclear shit, meanwhile; Busy was spittin' that same shit that he used against Moe Dee and got destroyed because of it! What a crock of shit, yo!!
Shante won that 100%. 3:08 should prove that. The host almost lost it at that line "but busy bee how many times you gonna wear this suit". And busy in a sentence says you's a MC that came from way back,... She was like 14-15 years old and sure did not sound like no old party rocker MC.
As one who has a slight leaning toward the Old School era, Shanté was robbed. A four?! Maybe Busy Bee slid a twenty in his pocket before the battle. Jury tampering at its finest. 😬
Shante smashed him into a million pieces no competition shame on them. But let tell you a story of how she got to be so fresh! It happened one day you know she was sitting on the stairs listening to the radio....
and we all know who got the juice !!!!! double tantrum juice crew even back then respect the best voice in hip hop hands down only mc lyte voice could make me think very long (pause)
Dang she got ROBBED but look at her NOW if Im her I would not be mad because of this ROBBERY she now is on TOP and seen as the TRUE QUEEN of HIP HOP!!!
Schooly D's "P.S.K." came out this same year...regarded as the 1st "gangsta rap" song...B.U.T. My point is that Roxanne Shantè GOT REAL GANGSTA...GUNS..."pullin' triggaz"..."nappy-headed nigga" @ 3:36...in this battle...INTERESTING!!! She got GUTTA like real quick...HAHAHA
Shchooly d’s PSK it’s definitely one of my top five hip-hop records ever. But it is not the first gansster rap. The first gangster rap would be “radioactivity Rap” by M.C Fosty and Lovin’ C back in 1981. That record was the most articulate as far as talking about actual gangs from Los Angeles as well as describing drive-by shootings and gang-banging.
Busy said “I’m gonna give you little soap, a towel and a cup, cause the bum mc’s are all washed up..” Melle mel did that on pump me up, so I wonder who got it from who…
Most like battle rap with a beat so do I. Do your research it's on the internet. Shante won the battle but I believe it was kurtis Blow who said if we give it to shante it makes us dudes look bad so we not gonna give it to her. Shante won the damn battle.
Idk why Curtis gave her a 4 he don't even write all his lyrics. Roxanne Shante is the winner by far. I can't believe he did that 😳 what a sucka for that.
Busy Bee was saying the same rhymes for the past 5 years.
Roxanne said “what happened?” And slayed his a$$!! Lol“We all know who got the juice!” Yes ma’am!!!!
Kurtis was mad that Shante rocked harder and better than him
Roxanne Shante was way ahead of Time !!!
The Coldest Most Deadly Female Artist
to ever touch a Mic !!
#Facts
Shante won this battle. And the movie is 🔥🔥🔥 she is the 👑
Shante Win? 😂 You are Funny 😂
hell yeah she a beast
This was straight up ROBBERY.
Much respect to Busy Bee (he is an all time legend), but he did NOT win this battle. To me, his rhyme style sounded outdated in 1985.
Kurtis Blow cost Roxanne the victory.
suaved Not outdated for 1985
How
Thank you.
Busy Bee's rhyme style was definitely getting left in the dust by other up and coming MCs who were pushing the lyrical boundaries by adding different cadences, poetic technique, innovation, vocabulary, etc.
Again, I say that Busy Bee was a legend, and he could rock a party like few others ever could, but when it comes to lyricism, he was outclassed in 1985.
His rhyme style in this battle may have sounded fresh in 1979-82, but not in this competition.
Kurtis Blow a hater he sexist and intentionally sabotage Rox! Not only that Busy Bee was more about how great he was! Shanté was going for his head!!!
She was clowning the shit out of him why he just bragged on how great he was Shanté Won frfr!!!
On the djvlad interview Shnate talked about this battle and how Kurtis couldn't let her win because it would look bad for hip hop moving forward at the time, it could have the best rapper in the world being a teenage girl. I wish this was addressed in the movie.
A Netflicks "Juice Crew" mini series or a Roxanne mini series would be dope!!
For real. I was so surprised and a little disappointed that this or the Frukwan battle wasn't mentioned in the movie. This is what many people remember and fear Shante for.
Shante won that. Shante was coming off the dome. Busy knew he didn’t win that.
Glen Hibbert factz about tht shit she won
You goddamn right she won!
This was the battle Roxanne Shante stated that Kurtis Blow confessed they rigged it to ensure Busy Bee won because they didn't want a 15 year old girl be regarded as the rap supreme.
darrell glover yes I seen that interview
@@DCBCHANNELDAATHCHOMAHBINAH where's this interview?
Wow. Roxanne Shante was robbed indeed. Busy Bee came thru with old school sounding writtens and got bested by a teenage girl. I can't wait to see Roxanne's bio on Netflix.
A bit of sexism was probably the reason she didn't win! Shame as she cold shut him down!
This was before House Party, 8 Mile, Wild 'N Out and Drop The Mic.
Shante lost only because she cursed. Busy been told her before the battle it was ok to curse basically setting her up to loose. On top of that u can tell busy be wrote his rhymes. Shante was spitting off the dome.
My man Busy Bee spitting the same bars he did in Wild Style... Everyone knows Shanté bodied the Bee.
This was the biggest screw job EVER... The Montreal screw job ain't got nothing on this screw job.
😆😭 Facts
Kurtis blow knew what he was doing lol he knew Roxanne a beast boy he was a mess smh 💀
Roxanne won that hands down!! Kurtis Blow was on some bull shit giving her a 4!
According to Roxanne Shante he confessed he did it on purpose because he didn't like the fact a 15 year old girl should be rap supreme.
Busy Bee had a way of convincing people..."sniff".. We all know about Kurtis Blow's habit. After listening to a lot of these tapes, it's like most of these battles were handed to him until Kool Moe Dee said fk that in 86...but Busy Bee won that contest too?? Most of these shows seemed rigged in his favor.
That would explain Kurtis' last name.
Kurtis gave her a 2
@@darrellglover493 Thats probably how he rationalized it to himself later. Robbing a lil girl thas going that hard would eat your conscience.
None of his rhymes actually even addressed anything about her or anything she said... all sounded very pre-rehearsed from him.
Busy bee brought a plastic knife to a gun fight.
The quality sounds so clear 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
*Kanye grabs mic
"Yo Busy Bee, I'm really happy for you, Imma let you finish, but Shante was the best MC of the New Music Seminar 1985"
Damn Roxanne killed this jawn.. Hands down she won!!! SALUTE 2 THE QUEEN OF BATTLE RAP #ptvgfx #ptvent
Shante cooked em
Roxanne Shante was straight up Fire / Fuego !
Roxanne's style was so interesting. She was really gifted at battle rapping. Busy Bee's style even for 84 sounded outdated and wasn't battel rapping. No disses.
Yep, Shante was robbed. No doubt that she was rhyming off of the dome. She was directly addressing Busy Bee’s rhymes. No disrespect to Busy; both are legends.
Shante beast’ed him! 🔥
Definite robbery.
He wasnt rapppin bout nothing, she dissin him all the way😂😂😂😂😂
Once Roxanne Brought Up Busy Bee Wearing The Same Suit lol You Can hear from the Audience and his Voice GAME OVER.....
yup, probably wearing the same leather jacket and shoes from Beat Street.
No offense to the bee, but he couldn't beat his meat with five sets of hands and gallon of vasoline. Emcee'n a party and battling are two ENTIRELY different sets of skills.
well said! 1000%
Wooow, I love these classic hip-hop archives.. you find diamonds the deeper you dig.
woww i had this on tape back then... all the way in Holland Europe, great to hear this again.
Shante Cooked 💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥
It sounded like the people were booing when Busy Bee was announced the winner. Shanté should have one. Obviously, she was better. The audience knew it, and even the judges knew it. Some of them were probably paid to score in Busy Bee's favor. They wouldn't let a teenage girl beat a grown man in rap battling back then.
VLADTV BROUGHT ME HERE........ Peace to Shante!! Busy Bee is my Main Man, though he Got Waxed.... Kurtis Blow.... C’mon Man That Was Cold, Bruh.....
The CHAMP is here!!!!!
Damn Shante was really busting they asses in these battles 😂
They robbed her on this one smh
Roxanne Shante is one the best , ever.
Kurtis Blow is a legend, but he was trippin for that
The MC laughing tells the true story!
This is my first time listenin' to this, and I must say; Shante got robbed, man!! How in the fuck could they give this "victory" to Busy Bee?! Like, seriously?! Shante was spittin' that nuclear shit, meanwhile; Busy was spittin' that same shit that he used against Moe Dee and got destroyed because of it! What a crock of shit, yo!!
i've never heard one person say that it was a fair judgement. it seems like it's pretty unanimous that she was robbed. those judges should be ashamed.
Not all of them. Sounds like she got three 10s and one 8. It was just Kurtis Blow who gave her a 4 because she was a girl.
That was messed up. Kurtis Blow was wack for that.
Thank you so much this is awesome
NOTHING better then the Old-School .....
Much Luv from Milwaukee 414
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just pure flow and rhymes for the legend of busy bee geting the honey will never die.
WTF !!!! It’s Roxanne’s win and it went too busy bee ….WTF
Roxanne destroyed him 10 times over.
Shante won that 100%. 3:08 should prove that. The host almost lost it at that line "but busy bee how many times you gonna wear this suit". And busy in a sentence says you's a MC that came from way back,... She was like 14-15 years old and sure did not sound like no old party rocker MC.
As one who has a slight leaning toward the Old School era, Shanté was robbed. A four?! Maybe Busy Bee slid a twenty in his pocket before the battle. Jury tampering at its finest. 😬
Shante won this battle no doubt !
Shante smashed him into a million pieces no competition shame on them. But let tell you a story of how she got to be so fresh! It happened one day you know she was sitting on the stairs listening to the radio....
She crushed him!!!!! They play too much.. Judges must've been sleep or paid off. 👎🏽
WE ALL KNOW WHO GOT THE JUICE
Wow i never knew these 2 battled..tape is mad clear too...check out shantes movie
🗣 She was ROBBED.
Shante a beast, Kurt was Hollywood looking at the bigger picture
I'm going with Roxanne Shante! 👍
and we all know who got the juice !!!!! double tantrum juice crew even back then respect the best voice in hip hop hands down only mc lyte voice could make me think very long (pause)
First he didn't give New Edition an autograph now this. Say it ain't so Kurtis Blow. Still one of the pioneers though
How can one legend rate a 10 and another rate a 4... he was clearly hating!
Shante Killed him bar none!
Hip Hop at its FINEST
Dang she got ROBBED but look at her NOW if Im her I would not be mad because of this ROBBERY she now is on TOP and seen as the TRUE QUEEN of HIP HOP!!!
This is dope
WOW!!!!!! I didn't know Shante was like that
"THAT'S IT!!!" The Host MC knew Busy was about to get GROWN MAN on Shanny...'n she was about to EAT HIS AZZ UP!!! HAHAHAHA...
Who came up with that style of countdown battle? I guess it was a style for the mid 80s.
she flamed him up
That was a massacre. Roxanne was robbed.
I knew Kurtis was wack when he was mad he had to open up for new edition 😒
QB!!!!
Stamp that 80s baby she said it n da lyrics he was wack...shante wins hands down ever flow she gave him a chance n he failed##!!!!
Shane's the people's champ!
On the microphone
Shanté shudda got a 3
Because the fix was in
From Kurtis Blow to Busy Bee
Schooly D's "P.S.K." came out this same year...regarded as the 1st "gangsta rap" song...B.U.T. My point is that Roxanne Shantè GOT REAL GANGSTA...GUNS..."pullin' triggaz"..."nappy-headed nigga" @ 3:36...in this battle...INTERESTING!!! She got GUTTA like real quick...HAHAHA
Shchooly d’s PSK it’s definitely one of my top five hip-hop records ever. But it is not the first gansster rap. The first gangster rap would be “radioactivity Rap” by M.C Fosty and Lovin’ C back in 1981. That record was the most articulate as far as talking about actual gangs from Los Angeles as well as describing drive-by shootings and gang-banging.
🎧💉👂🎼🎵🎶🔥💣🔥💣🧨🎤🥀⚰️🎤👀 Shanté caught a body 🚑🚔🚓
grew up listening to it all why he battle a female oh wait he wanted her i think busy bee passed rip
Shante won that one hands down. Respect to the chief rocker but Shante was robbed. All hail the queen🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👊🇬🇧
Busy said “I’m gonna give you little soap, a towel and a cup, cause the bum mc’s are all washed up..” Melle mel did that on pump me up, so I wonder who got it from who…
Shante clearly won that battle, hands down.
when kurtis flash his card you can hear shante scream what
The guy keeping time is mad distracting. I wanna hear the punch bro
It's official Roxanne shante got robbed that night. She gave busy-bee flashbacks of Kool Moe Dee 🎤🗡️
Love Busy Bee but Roxxane had more creativity and thought in her rhymes. Roxxane on this 1
Most like battle rap with a beat so do I. Do your research it's on the internet. Shante won the battle but I believe it was kurtis Blow who said if we give it to shante it makes us dudes look bad so we not gonna give it to her. Shante won the damn battle.
and the real winner the R O X A N N E!! Straight highway robbery. KB was mad she dissed him lol
SHANTE ROCKED THAT SHIT!!!
SHANTE THE FIRST LADY OF RAP MEANING QUEEN OF RAP FACTS
❤
Kurtis Blow gave her a 4 out of 10 . Wow he was on that bullshit .
poor busy bee. he got owned. get flow, he sounds like a 80s relic compared to shante
I didn't really know busy b just remember him in the movie wild style counting his money on the bed, his a funny nigga lol
Then he made a B with his 1 dollar bills!
CHANTE KILLIN BIZZY BEE!!!
shante wins that hands down ..... huge busy bee fan but he doesn't beat her...
Oid skool hip hop,forlife
She won that battle
YEAH SHE WON FOR SURE. BUT UH NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS BATTLE MAAAAN. TALKING ABOUT WORLD SUPREMACY 😂 AGAINST BUSY BEE? IN 85?
Idk why Curtis gave her a 4 he don't even write all his lyrics. Roxanne Shante is the winner by far. I can't believe he did that 😳 what a sucka for that.
Roxanne smoked him!!! Robbery!
Shante stomped that bee!!!