Wonderful video. I play at home to keep my skills active. My at home betting on your video was: $300 bank roll - end of game: $896 = $596 end of game winnings. The net gains bets were: 50% Field, 30% Sevens, 20% Place bets. I try to average $20 an hour at a Casino. But even watching/playing your videos would make me tons of money using the same ideas. Thanks again.
Hey I just wanted to say i recently got into craps, and your videos have been essential for learning the game . Thank you for your easy and simple approach and explanations!
One tactic within this strategy I havent yet seen him do is the hedging of the hard rolls when possible with that little side board. When you consider them in that sense rather than just betting them for the pure odds, their gain is in that they are removing an entire combination from wrecking your DC.
Hedging helps take away 1 combination to give you an edge but you pay for it, only reason I'm doing so is because my lay is too big and playing scared. What puts me on full tilt is when I hedge a big lay with a hardway and an inexperienced shooter still makes the point and their roll doesn't come hard. The house wins in craps by not paying true odds over time.
@@chadchristian598 How does the $10 hardway hedge make you a winner when you have a $400 lay on a DC? Craps is a progressive game where you should step on the gas and raise your bets slowly one unit at a time when the table is hot or cold.
I think the problem with many craps players is they always need to have action. If people want to make money they need to bet smart, conservatively, and adjust their play to the conditions - individual table and the abilities and proclivities of other players. One of the best talents a craps player can develop is rolling a 7 consistently. Betting the Do Not Come, establishing a point, and rolling a 7 is easier than establishing a point and attempting to roll the number again. There is that old adage about too many hands in the pot. Keeping things simple by playing the pass/ do not pass and maybe buying some numbers is the best way to play. I also think playing odds is a bad idea, even though it is supposedly the best bet in the house. I see people playing odds losing all their money all the time.
You cannot "adjust to the conditions" because the conditions never change. They are the probabilities inherent in two dice, every roll, unless you're positing a controlled shooter is at the table.
I play this strategy a lot and I happen to win a lot as well. I cover a little more than this way. When the DC is on I put $5 on the eleven to cover that. Also depending on the point it's good to play that particular hard way as well. Note* If the DC comes 6 or 8 I DO NOT LEAVE IT. You can pull it down and wait for the number you want. Overall, one of the most successful ways to play.
I’m going to do a 30 roll challenge at Casino Quest, planning on doing this strategy it has potential to be epic, we will see what happens. Starting with $300 it’s literally a crap shoot, but I have been testing and if you don’t get smoked fast then you usually come out on top at the end of thirty rolls. That $300 can go fast though.
What I like to do, especially when I’m up a little with this strategy, is when the point is hit, lay odds on the big DC if it’s a 5/9. 6/8 I will do sometimes but often too scary lol, 4/10 sometimes but payout to me isn’t worth the risk of losing both the DC and odds. I usually just do 90 to win 60, but if I’m up to double or more of initial buy in I don’t mind doing 150 to win 100. It’s a great way to make the grind of this strategy really pay off, or if it loses your still above your buy in and back to the grind. And you’re still going with the rest of table since it’s the come out roll, which is nice too.
I have a question/video suggestion. There is an online casino that has live craps and its run by Revolution. The dice is thrown by a machine and bets are placed virtually. The bad thing is with this table is that you cannot take down any of your bets nor can you turn off any bets. So if the point hits all your place bets stay up and there is nothing you can do about it. If a 7 is rolled on the come out then you are screwed, if it hits a number you have money on it still gets paid. I've been trying to apply your videos and different strategies to this table and I have not had much luck with finding something that works because this is not a typical table. Also your pass/don't pass odds can only be as high as your original bet, you can't double or triple them. The minimum for the table is 50 cents. I have only been doing 50 cents - $1 bets with a small bankroll of about $20-40 because of how odd this table is. I'm curious what the best strategy would be. I have tried both pass and don't pass strategies. The best strategy I have found so far is a don't pass iron cross but since you cannot do anything about your placed bets you often lose them on the come out roll. Thanks Jeremy!
@@ColorUp No it is not accessible in the states, sorry I should have mentioned that. You have to use a VPN connected to Canada. Thank you for your reply. I know a lot of it is the luck of the die. Just trying to figure out a good way to hedge my bet since you can't turn off bets or place double (or more) odds.
@@ColorUp No they won't. Its a weird table. Once you place your bet and the die are rolled you cannot take down anything. You do have an undo option right after you place a bet but if the die are rolled then they can only be added to. The bet only gets removed if it hits or there is a 7 out. I guess that is how they stay profitable, by not using normal craps rules lol. I appreciate your interest in my question, and taking time out of your day to respond. I am so happy that I found your channel. Edit: I became a channel member because I want to support your channel, keep up the great work! Thank you!
Point=5 DC=9 For those who don't know. The Do Not Pass Line(DNPL) can be pulled down any time. Only if you are the shooter must you then have to place a Pass Line(PL) bet. (Any amount table min.) Mario could have... $75 DNPL (aim-1,2,4,10,) result pt.5 Pull down DNPL & place $10 PL & $75 DC (aim-1,2,4,5,10,) Result 9 so point=5 DC=9 Why aim for 1,2,4,5,10? #1 or 2 =DC 75$ win, pt. still 5, 75$DC still up or (5&9= same odds) #5=point 10$win, DC=#5, puck off, $10 pass line bet, =now rolling for the 7 &/or point with #5 being "dark" instead of #9. A Don't Come bet Pays even money on 4,5,6,8,9, or 10. it is the odds behind the DC that Pay the (4&10), (5&9), and (6&8) lay odds respectively. Better to DC ON to 4 or 10 as they have less single number Expected Probability(3of36) than the other numbers 5,9, & 6,8.
I love the $75 don’t strategy but for me I like to go on the don’t pass line and hedge my don’t come with equal odds on the don’t pass when establishing the don’t come point like you did in one of your other videos.
Here's the problem with just one strategy....trends are very important in the game of CRAPS. Sticking to a losing strategy thinking the trend won't change if the "Don't Come" or "Don't Pass" is a long-term losing strategy. I believe one must be able to identify the "trend" on the table and be able to be a "Do Bettor" and a "Don't Bettor" and be able to switch back and forth and stay in the flow of the table.
There's no such thing as a real trend in craps, only the appearance of one. The rolls are independent. There is also no such thing as a strategy that isn't a long-term losing strategy. Playing craps is a form of paid entertainment, nothing more.
What's your opinion on this scenario: Roll #1 on the Pass and a point is established. Roll #2 you have $75 on DC and you roll a 3, winning $75. Do you just take your $75 winnings and play out the Pass bet? Leave the table up $85 or $65 (depending what happens with the Pass bet)?
I really like this strategy but just a few things i do different, i put $75 DC and a $5 eleven. And if my DC gors to 4,6,8 or 10 I'll put a nickel on the hard way to take away a way to lose.
Yeah. It never works for me either. You really have to hope the the DC stays alive while you’re trying to make money with the place bets. Unfortunately if the table is hot, the DC could die quickly with repeat rolls. If the table is cold, you could see a 7 rolled while the $75 is in the DC at the start.
Why do you sometimes put his place bets inside the number square? It’s almost in the position that a COME bet would go. I saw it done once, then it happened at 16:10 (his place bet on the 4) and I can’t work out why?? His place bet 4 is at almost the same latitude as you come bet on the 8
When the dealer places a wager inside of the number it is to refer to the bet as a "Buy" bet. Usually there is a button that says "buy" placed on top. What this does it it allows your bet to win true odds at the cost of a 5% commission, which is known as the vig. Depending on where you're at, some houses charge the vig upfront and some charge it after it hits. So in this case a place bet on 10 would pay 9 to 5 ($9 won for every $5 bet), but since it's a buy, he is getting the true odd which is 2 to 1 ($10 won for every $5 bet) then minus the commission.
If DC travels to 4, 6, 8 or 10, hedge the bet by betting $5 on the respective hardway. Since there are 3 ways to roll a 4 or 10, hardway hedging takes away 1 of 3 ways to lose DC (for 4 or 10).
Super curious why at around 7:53, y’all both agreed that you should’ve been paid first on the pass line. Are y’all just doing like shooter gets paid first or? Because SOP would be base to stick when paying the pass line in case anyone was confused 👍🏻 Great stuff as always!
Yeah, not SOP, but because challenge, the shooter gets paid and has to bet first, keeps order and gives other player chance to evaluate what he wants to do based on what first player bets/does
Quick question! I’m a don’t player..Would you go with a no 9 for 60 to win 40 or would you go with a no 100 to win 50??? With one do u feel more comfortable with??
Mario. just a little glitch in your play. As long as you have an active DC. Your place bets should be working. . As well you should also make a place bet on your DC point. Stage tech marine tries to simplify all the details. However with all the action in the strategy I had to watch it many times. Hint.
Edmidio: I'm curious why you think he should make a place bet on the DC point. Once that's established, he has the advantage. A place bet would reduce it, losing value.
I watched STM video many times. If I’m not mistaken the only alteration I made is I start at 1x odds on the come bets instead of starting with 2x. Just cause throwing up all that right away feels too aggressive for an already aggressive strategy. (At least for my money) lol.
@@emidiosantini7344 Of course if the DC point is rolled he's going to lose his $75. But he has the advantage on every single point. Making a place bet, reduces that advantage. You do realize that every time a 7 is rolled he wins his DC and you lose your place bet, and the 7 will occur more often. What you're suggesting is just a hedge or insurance, which I never understand. If the objective is to reduce risk, just bet less rather than making two negative advantage wagers. I agree it is a constantly moving strategy and would keep you on your toes making the game more exciting. And I was impressed how well Mario did with that in a very pleasant manner.
So, in my scenario. I got an on my very 1st roll 8 to make the puck "ON". I then put $50 on DC. The very next roll comes an 8 again. Will my DC move to 8? if yes, will that be in play only when the puck is back on "ON"?
@@ColorUp thanks. And I am guessing in this scenario. I'd rather bring my DC down as my 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 bets would not be in play while the puck is off.
For the $75 DC strategy, could you play a $20 Field bet instead of placing the 4 9 and 10? $10 less at risk and you hedge the 2 3 and 12 against your come bet.
When I first started playing craps I played the don't come until I learned it is a losing strategy. Best bet is to wait until somebody rolls a 10 and then start laying bets on the ten until there is a 7 out. 10 is hard to roll for most people. Start with a $30 lay. If it hits move it to 80. If it hits the third time - an unlikely occurrence - lay $250. Will the 10 hit four times before a 7 out? Possible but highly improbable.
I just don't agree with betting both sides because you're simply giving the house more money. I'm probably in the minority there. Just simply pick your strategy and bet whatever side you want to be on. You'll have more fluctuations in your bank robot you'll be giving the house less money does keeping your long-term percentages of house advantage down. More over, betting the middle of the board and feel betting can really take a toll on your bankroll unless the table is piping hot.
So I used this strategy the other day and made 600. However i lost my dc 3 times on a hot roll. If you are in a hot roll should you stop putting up another dc?
As far as comps go, you might be better off playing $75 on the DP line instead of the DC. This way, you could get rated as a $75 player instead of a $10 player.
It just didn’t work for me when I tried it. I would always get a DC on 6 or 8, then roll a 6 or 8, immediately followed by a 7. The $75 bets would lose fast.
I did not see if someone said it already. But your suggestion to offset a 6/8 DC bet with a place bet of equal value is not really worth it to me. If you don’t want your DC on a 6/8 just tell dealer “No action” and they will leave your original bet on the DC for the next roll. Although it is technically a “contract bet” like the pass line or the come bet, because you have the house advantage (even against a 6/8) the casino will allow you to not take bet or “pull down” the bet. Same is true for a “don’t pass”bet.
Don’t pass don’t come are not contract bets and can be removed at anytime. Here is why you should never pull them though. ua-cam.com/video/tX-YxlO3PmQ/v-deo.html
@@ColorUp right. Maybe I didn’t say it correctly. I am saying that if a 75 DC lands on the 6/8. You can pull it down if you choose too. But putting a 60 place bet to protect the DC is not a good strategy in my opinion either. I understand why you should not pull a DC bet. Even if it’s on a 6:8. I do think, as others have mentioned that putting a hard 6/8 for 10 dollars might be the only way I would consider protecting a DC, DP or lay bet.
No, you should leave it be as you now have advantage and went through hard part (come out) but the worst thing to do is pull. If you don’t like number, just place and you are guaranteed to break even or win which is much better option than restarting thru DC and facing the 7/11 again.
@@ColorUp I guess I would be either all in on the DC or I would rather wait for it to go on a better number. But I almost never play the dark side. My strategy is to put two place bets for 60 each on 6 and 8 and as soon as one hits to go down to 64 across. That way I am playing with house money sooner but as with any strategy. If no 6 or 8s come out. It gets very expensive. Very quick.
@@ColorUplet me tell you what was my strategy. 1- bet $75 on don’t, and might go with any 7 and Yo. The set the dice on 3-4-3-4 and try to keep them on axis. 2- if the point established, I’ll bet $15 across and set the dice according to the point. For 4 or 10 => 1-6-1-6 + bet on hard 4 or 10. For 5 or 9 => 3-4-3-4 + bet on C&E and for 6 or 8 => 2-5-2-5 + bet on hard 6 or 8. I think I could not control my emotion/bank roll and went aggressive to cover my losses. I hit the C&E multiple times. After I lost all my $500 the pit boss followed me and asked for my ID, I said for what? He told me there face recognition system recognized me and want to make sure I’m not on self exclusion. After that he gave me my ID then I left. Till now I have no idea why they asked for my ID and it dose not make any sense to check if I am on self exclusion after I lost!!
I tried this strategy in Vegas recently and unfortunately all the second rolls were 7s or 11s, when I started to bend the strategy I started to come up, ended up leaving 200 extra.
I find bending the strategy to be the best bet. If the point is 4/10, don't bet on DC, just bet on 6+8--IMO you're more likely to lose that DC bet before hitting the point, and it's too much of a risk to bet that the 7 will come first.
No "strategy" gets around the basic fact that, inevitably, you will lose money playing craps in the long run. Period. Your strategy makes no difference whatsoever other than to accelerate or decelerate the losing - but no strategy on earth can avoid the inevitable mathematics.
Yeah 3 point Molly don’t. I have a video on that, the dice probability is in your favor but like all strategies it gets beat. Rolling points back causes dark siders to lose
@@ColorUp very true...I lay 120 to win 60 on 4/10, 90 to win 60 on 5/9, and don't lay odds on 6/8. Always a base unit on Don't Come so if I lose a 4/5/9/10 I can bet it again. But get in a hot table where someone rolls several 4s or 10s and I'm in trouble.
Bro when you play the dark side make a small bet on the dont come and LAY max odds once a number has been established. A 75$ bet on the dont come gets wiped out by a seven. And it will happen often if you play lots of craps, it is better to make the smallest bet on the dont come and LAY max odds once your on a number, because when seven rolls then you are on a number and will win. Why risk 75 on the dont come. If you are gong to play 75 on the dont come dont LAY 30 $ that is just stupid. IMO
@@ColorUp You need me on your show. I use a modified iron cross strategy and I play both sides in one roll. I always turn my place bets off then switch to the dark side once in favored over the house. Only playing one side on one roll is good but playing both sides in the same roll is the way to win.
I will likely reply again after I watch the video, but just based on the title, it is a very silly bet from a probability stand point. out of 36 possible combinations 8 of those combination make you lose you $75 bet on the next roll. That is more than a 22% chance to lose that bet immediately. More than once in every 5 times you make that bet you will lose immediately.
@@mikemarioplays2521 having an enjoyable time is def the most important thing. for some people the math of the game is the most enjoyable part. avoid bad bets like this one will keep in the game longer; which equals more enjoyment.
I agree that is why when you play the dont come you make the smallest bet and then LAY max odds this guy was not laying any odds he really has zero clue.
@@neilrichey1998 Are you saying laying odds is bad. As in betting 75 on the dont come then laying zero odds compared to putting 5$ on the dont come then place 70 with laying the odds. Is that what you are trying to say. because that is what I am saying.
I get tired of seeing this $75 D/C strategy as the "best" strategy. No one wants to talk about that you still incur the risk of 7/11 on the 'come out roll' then it really gets interesting if you knock down a D/C or two. You knock down two D/C's and then a quick 7 out on everything else you have on the table you are walking away. Color up even branded it a "low risk" strategy which just isn't true.
Wouldn't it be better to have a certain number of rolls rather than a timed challenge? You use up so much time just rearranging the bets and scratching your heads.
I really like this strategy but just a few things i do different, i put $75 DC and a $5 eleven. And if my DC goes to 4,6,8 or 10 I'll put a nickel on the hard way to take away a way to lose.
Kudos to Mario, no offense to previous challengers, but he's probably the most on point, no nonsense, and respectful challenger yet! 👏
This guy is so polite. Ain't no cussin, spittin, swearin. Tell him my wife has a sister who's available.
He is a gentleman
Don't come better than don't pass. Why? Not uncommon to see 3 come out 7/11 in a row.
@@mikegee8875 Doesn't the 7/11 lose on the don't come?
@@jdub2878 yes. But he’s saying the DC is better than DP because 7/11 just seems more common on the come out (when the DP would be played)
@@ColorUp Home training shows.
Wonderful video. I play at home to keep my skills active. My at home betting on your video was: $300 bank roll - end of game: $896 = $596 end of game winnings. The net gains bets were: 50% Field, 30% Sevens, 20% Place bets. I try to average $20 an hour at a Casino. But even watching/playing your videos would make me tons of money using the same ideas. Thanks again.
Nice!
Hey I just wanted to say i recently got into craps, and your videos have been essential for learning the game . Thank you for your easy and simple approach and explanations!
Thanks, glad your enjoying
One tactic within this strategy I havent yet seen him do is the hedging of the hard rolls when possible with that little side board. When you consider them in that sense rather than just betting them for the pure odds, their gain is in that they are removing an entire combination from wrecking your DC.
Hedging helps take away 1 combination to give you an edge but you pay for it, only reason I'm doing so is because my lay is too big and playing scared. What puts me on full tilt is when I hedge a big lay with a hardway and an inexperienced shooter still makes the point and their roll doesn't come hard. The house wins in craps by not paying true odds over time.
I would put $5 on the 11 when the DC is up and $10 on the hard way when the dc is on an even number
@@chadchristian598 How does the $10 hardway hedge make you a winner when you have a $400 lay on a DC? Craps is a progressive game where you should step on the gas and raise your bets slowly one unit at a time when the table is hot or cold.
@@toddtaylor6192 $400 on the DC! Big baller shot caller! I could learn some things from you!
@@chadchristian598 Better hedge $58 on the $400 hard 10 lay just to break even lol.
This was fun to watch. Should do a playoff system with 8 shooters to crown a champion.
Your setup looks different. It is better. Nice to see. Thanks for all the content.
Thanks, trying little different
I think the problem with many craps players is they always need to have action. If people want to make money they need to bet smart, conservatively, and adjust their play to the conditions - individual table and the abilities and proclivities of other players. One of the best talents a craps player can develop is rolling a 7 consistently. Betting the Do Not Come, establishing a point, and rolling a 7 is easier than establishing a point and attempting to roll the number again.
There is that old adage about too many hands in the pot. Keeping things simple by playing the pass/ do not pass and maybe buying some numbers is the best way to play. I also think playing odds is a bad idea, even though it is supposedly the best bet in the house. I see people playing odds losing all their money all the time.
Agreed with everything you said but it threw me off to see “Do Not Come” vs “Don’t Come”. Reading it in my head felt wrong lol
You cannot "adjust to the conditions" because the conditions never change. They are the probabilities inherent in two dice, every roll, unless you're positing a controlled shooter is at the table.
Ahh the kerry smith technique... super effective perfect for small starting bankroll. This system can run 300 to 4000 within a hour
It can also lose you everything within an hour
I play this strategy a lot and I happen to win a lot as well. I cover a little more than this way. When the DC is on I put $5 on the eleven to cover that. Also depending on the point it's good to play that particular hard way as well. Note* If the DC comes 6 or 8 I DO NOT LEAVE IT. You can pull it down and wait for the number you want. Overall, one of the most successful ways to play.
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I’m going to do a 30 roll challenge at Casino Quest, planning on doing this strategy it has potential to be epic, we will see what happens. Starting with $300 it’s literally a crap shoot, but I have been testing and if you don’t get smoked fast then you usually come out on top at the end of thirty rolls. That $300 can go fast though.
Fun! Good luck
Love the timer and compeating agenst another player
What a fun battle, and what a super nice guy! Well done, both of you.
What I like to do, especially when I’m up a little with this strategy, is when the point is hit, lay odds on the big DC if it’s a 5/9. 6/8 I will do sometimes but often too scary lol, 4/10 sometimes but payout to me isn’t worth the risk of losing both the DC and odds. I usually just do 90 to win 60, but if I’m up to double or more of initial buy in I don’t mind doing 150 to win 100. It’s a great way to make the grind of this strategy really pay off, or if it loses your still above your buy in and back to the grind. And you’re still going with the rest of table since it’s the come out roll, which is nice too.
strict dc i ilke m mario legend at my casino craps stud muffin
Great job Mike! Beating the dice is very hard. Beating Jeremy and his dice is very, very hard! Best wishes always on coloring up!
Ha, yes, well done!
This is a great strategy.
Great strategy i use the same but hedge a $5 bet on the 11 bet when betting the $75 DC
I have a question/video suggestion. There is an online casino that has live craps and its run by Revolution. The dice is thrown by a machine and bets are placed virtually. The bad thing is with this table is that you cannot take down any of your bets nor can you turn off any bets. So if the point hits all your place bets stay up and there is nothing you can do about it. If a 7 is rolled on the come out then you are screwed, if it hits a number you have money on it still gets paid. I've been trying to apply your videos and different strategies to this table and I have not had much luck with finding something that works because this is not a typical table. Also your pass/don't pass odds can only be as high as your original bet, you can't double or triple them. The minimum for the table is 50 cents. I have only been doing 50 cents - $1 bets with a small bankroll of about $20-40 because of how odd this table is. I'm curious what the best strategy would be. I have tried both pass and don't pass strategies. The best strategy I have found so far is a don't pass iron cross but since you cannot do anything about your placed bets you often lose them on the come out roll. Thanks Jeremy!
Just turned $100 into $600 lol on the same site and table
Can you access site on the States, and if so what is it? As far as strategies that work, it just depends on how the dice roll
@@ColorUp No it is not accessible in the states, sorry I should have mentioned that. You have to use a VPN connected to Canada. Thank you for your reply. I know a lot of it is the luck of the die. Just trying to figure out a good way to hedge my bet since you can't turn off bets or place double (or more) odds.
Ok, so can only do single odds and can’t turn off place bets. If they are pressed up, will they let you decrease them back to table minimum?
@@ColorUp No they won't. Its a weird table. Once you place your bet and the die are rolled you cannot take down anything. You do have an undo option right after you place a bet but if the die are rolled then they can only be added to. The bet only gets removed if it hits or there is a 7 out. I guess that is how they stay profitable, by not using normal craps rules lol. I appreciate your interest in my question, and taking time out of your day to respond. I am so happy that I found your channel. Edit: I became a channel member because I want to support your channel, keep up the great work! Thank you!
Point=5 DC=9
For those who don't know.
The Do Not Pass Line(DNPL) can be pulled down any time. Only if you are the shooter must you then have to place a Pass Line(PL) bet. (Any amount table min.) Mario could have...
$75 DNPL (aim-1,2,4,10,) result pt.5
Pull down DNPL & place
$10 PL & $75 DC (aim-1,2,4,5,10,)
Result 9 so point=5 DC=9
Why aim for 1,2,4,5,10?
#1 or 2 =DC 75$ win, pt. still 5, 75$DC still up or (5&9= same odds)
#5=point 10$win, DC=#5, puck off, $10 pass line bet, =now rolling for the 7 &/or point with #5 being "dark" instead of #9.
A Don't Come bet Pays even money
on 4,5,6,8,9, or 10. it is the odds behind the DC that Pay the
(4&10), (5&9), and (6&8) lay odds respectively.
Better to DC ON to 4 or 10 as they have less single number Expected Probability(3of36) than the other numbers 5,9, & 6,8.
Here is why you should never pull a dont bet down. ua-cam.com/video/tX-YxlO3PmQ/v-deo.html
@@ColorUp Thanks. Keep Coloring Up🍻
I love the $75 don’t strategy but for me I like to go on the don’t pass line and hedge my don’t come with equal odds on the don’t pass when establishing the don’t come point like you did in one of your other videos.
Thank you
Here's the problem with just one strategy....trends are very important in the game of CRAPS. Sticking to a losing strategy thinking the trend won't change if the "Don't Come" or "Don't Pass" is a long-term losing strategy. I believe one must be able to identify the "trend" on the table and be able to be a "Do Bettor" and a "Don't Bettor" and be able to switch back and forth and stay in the flow of the table.
Sure, easier said than done though. If you could spot trends then you would be rich and the game would be easy. :)
There's no such thing as a real trend in craps, only the appearance of one. The rolls are independent. There is also no such thing as a strategy that isn't a long-term losing strategy. Playing craps is a form of paid entertainment, nothing more.
What's your opinion on this scenario: Roll #1 on the Pass and a point is established. Roll #2 you have $75 on DC and you roll a 3, winning $75. Do you just take your $75 winnings and play out the Pass bet? Leave the table up $85 or $65 (depending what happens with the Pass bet)?
I really like this strategy but just a few things i do different, i put $75 DC and a $5 eleven. And if my DC gors to 4,6,8 or 10 I'll put a nickel on the hard way to take away a way to lose.
would the dc bet change based on what the table minimum is? or does that $75 only apply to the $10 min table? thanks.
It applies to $10 tables and scales from there
man I lost badly with this strategy. My don't come was hit five times. It was a repester kind of day.
Yeah. It never works for me either. You really have to hope the the DC stays alive while you’re trying to make money with the place bets.
Unfortunately if the table is hot, the DC could die quickly with repeat rolls. If the table is cold, you could see a 7 rolled while the $75 is in the DC at the start.
Another fun one. He seems like a cool dude.
Lots of work for the dealers. You must watch to make sure they payout correctly! I would place $5 - 11 on come out DC roll for protection
That was fun to watch. I like to play the don’t pass. I will look for videos on that.
When the dealer called an 8! Lmao
I like playing the field. The doe rolls in quickly, it also leaves quickly lol
Yep, you never know
On r and 10 i would put single odds and 6 8 take 3-5x odds whatever is aloud on the table
Why do you sometimes put his place bets inside the number square? It’s almost in the position that a COME bet would go. I saw it done once, then it happened at 16:10 (his place bet on the 4) and I can’t work out why?? His place bet 4 is at almost the same latitude as you come bet on the 8
On the 4/10, the buy bet is always better than the place bet, so he's just assuming we wants to buy them rather than really place them.
I'm new to craps.
After the first roll, he says he wants $10 on 4, 6, 8, and 10...
Why was the $10 wagered inside 4 and 10, but placed on 6 and 8 ??
When the dealer places a wager inside of the number it is to refer to the bet as a "Buy" bet. Usually there is a button that says "buy" placed on top. What this does it it allows your bet to win true odds at the cost of a 5% commission, which is known as the vig. Depending on where you're at, some houses charge the vig upfront and some charge it after it hits. So in this case a place bet on 10 would pay 9 to 5 ($9 won for every $5 bet), but since it's a buy, he is getting the true odd which is 2 to 1 ($10 won for every $5 bet) then minus the commission.
Where is this layout from? That felt is beautiful!
I believe I got it from casino4youdotcom
Have a friend that used a version of this where he took odds a bit more that he swears does very well if you have a decent bankroll
All strategies work until they don’t work :)
If DC travels to 4, 6, 8 or 10, hedge the bet by betting $5 on the respective hardway. Since there are 3 ways to roll a 4 or 10, hardway hedging takes away 1 of 3 ways to lose DC (for 4 or 10).
My favorite strategy such a game changer
im such a beginner its crazy how he moves the chips around. so good though, im up 100$ and want to go back one day
That last roll is WILD. 6 6 9 6 9 6 9 lmao
Haha
Super curious why at around 7:53, y’all both agreed that you should’ve been paid first on the pass line. Are y’all just doing like shooter gets paid first or? Because SOP would be base to stick when paying the pass line in case anyone was confused 👍🏻 Great stuff as always!
Yeah, not SOP, but because challenge, the shooter gets paid and has to bet first, keeps order and gives other player chance to evaluate what he wants to do based on what first player bets/does
@@ColorUp thought so. Just checking on ya Jeremy 😃
why not bet dont pass insteasd of dont come?
Wow, pretty good roll. 15 rolls without a seven. I should learn to play become Come better.
Nice job. Way to dodge the dice.
He needed to take the most odds he can afford. That's the complete advantage here. But an early seven just breaks even
Quick question! I’m a don’t player..Would you go with a no 9 for 60 to win 40 or would you go with a no 100 to win 50??? With one do u feel more comfortable with??
No 80 to win 40 would be fairer comparison, but at that point both paying true odds (Minis vig) so it’s a toss up hope the dice gods are kind :)
@PJ Strong From what I've read houses round up if it's 51 cents or higher and round down if 50 or lower so at least where I am you'd pay a $2 vig.
What do you call a table were you cam only do even odds
Taking odds on 4/10 kills me
Mario. just a little glitch in your play.
As long as you have an active DC. Your
place bets should be working. . As well
you should also make a place bet on
your DC point. Stage tech marine tries
to simplify all the details. However
with all the action in the strategy I had
to watch it many times. Hint.
Edmidio: I'm curious why you think he should make a place bet on the DC point. Once that's established, he has the advantage. A place bet would reduce it, losing value.
I watched STM video many times. If I’m not mistaken the only alteration I made is I start at 1x odds on the come bets instead of starting with 2x. Just cause throwing up all that right away feels too aggressive for an already aggressive strategy. (At least for my money) lol.
@@randy5248 Except if the DC point is rolled,
he loses the 75$, but gets paid on his
place bet. Anyone playing this strategy
is very busy.
@@emidiosantini7344 Of course if the DC point is rolled he's going to lose his $75. But he has the advantage on every single point. Making a place bet, reduces that advantage. You do realize that every time a 7 is rolled he wins his DC and you lose your place bet, and the 7 will occur more often.
What you're suggesting is just a hedge or insurance, which I never understand. If the objective is to reduce risk, just bet less rather than making two negative advantage wagers.
I agree it is a constantly moving strategy and would keep you on your toes making the game more exciting. And I was impressed how well Mario did with that in a very pleasant manner.
enjoyable video to watch........
So, in my scenario. I got an on my very 1st roll 8 to make the puck "ON". I then put $50 on DC. The very next roll comes an 8 again. Will my DC move to 8? if yes, will that be in play only when the puck is back on "ON"?
Yes, you don’t come bet would move behind 8, it will now win with 7 and lose with 8 regardless of puck.
@@ColorUp thanks. And I am guessing in this scenario. I'd rather bring my DC down as my 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 bets would not be in play while the puck is off.
For the $75 DC strategy, could you play a $20 Field bet instead of placing the 4 9 and 10? $10 less at risk and you hedge the 2 3 and 12 against your come bet.
sounds like an interesting variation
Browns!!!
Can you do my challenge. But you have to set the dice?
When I first started playing craps I played the don't come until I learned it is a losing strategy. Best bet is to wait until somebody rolls a 10 and then start laying bets on the ten until there is a 7 out. 10 is hard to roll for most people. Start with a $30 lay. If it hits move it to 80. If it hits the third time - an unlikely occurrence - lay $250. Will the 10 hit four times before a 7 out? Possible but highly improbable.
dge strat after 4 4/10's
You can lay the 10 without it being the point, correct? What's the reason you're waiting for it to be the point?
You can turn place bets off during the middle of a roll?
Yes, ask dealer to turn off or just return to you
You can also turn place bets on for the come out roll when they are off by default, just ask your dealer
@@ColorUp wow all this time I thought they were contractual
@@ColorUp thank you
@@ColorUp wow game changer. But that does mean the 7 kills those place bets turned on.
Do any casinos even have the "Big 6 or 8" on their crap tables? I haven't seen them in East Coast casinos recently and in AC for decades.
New Jersey gaming made bet illegal long time ago fir taking advantage of player. It’s not common anymore
should have been playing hardways on 4-6-8-10 against a dc point of the same and a hedge $5 on the 11 on establishing a DC.
maybe, maybe not
What do you think about protecting your DC with a 150 lay on the 4 or 10
great as long as those numbers do not roll :)
I just don't agree with betting both sides because you're simply giving the house more money. I'm probably in the minority there. Just simply pick your strategy and bet whatever side you want to be on. You'll have more fluctuations in your bank robot you'll be giving the house less money does keeping your long-term percentages of house advantage down. More over, betting the middle of the board and feel betting can really take a toll on your bankroll unless the table is piping hot.
Who knows what I was playing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So I used this strategy the other day and made 600. However i lost my dc 3 times on a hot roll. If you are in a hot roll should you stop putting up another dc?
There are no hard rules, do what you are comfortable with.
As far as comps go, you might be better off playing $75 on the DP line instead of the DC. This way, you could get rated as a $75 player instead of a $10 player.
Jeremy, do you know where I can find more info on this strategy?
ua-cam.com/video/0_fj2CH58hU/v-deo.html
Can this strategy be explained please the 75 don't come
Why no hard way to hedge your DC?
Bankroll is too small to play 75DC!
Yes, in general, but it worked out for him in the challenge
300-500 is usually what people say to open with
How do I go on the channel and play with ya?
I reserve it for color up club members, and haven't been doing them lately
@@ColorUp email me you have gotten em from me before. Send me details
My website is colorup.club
What is 30 behind the line???
Odds bet goes behind the line. ua-cam.com/video/oPj6Nk4qXjA/v-deo.html
don't think I'm challenging you Jeremy
$20 odds on the 6 doesn’t play $30 anywhere I’ve ever heard of. Wouldn’t $20 pay $24 in odds. You over paid him so many times.
Yes, $20 should pay $24. $25 would pay $30.
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Mike Mario, I'd like to see some updates on your channel. Been playing it myself, and would like to see if you'd make any new adjustments?
Hey would love for you to try the DGE 100-100-100 challenge !
Can I find it on your channel?
Oh wow! A Browns fan!
For life ha
@@ColorUp …difficult road to walk
But same here. Born and raised!
It just didn’t work for me when I tried it. I would always get a DC on 6 or 8, then roll a 6 or 8, immediately followed by a 7. The $75 bets would lose fast.
Dang
Me either I tried it twice and lost both times
Legitimate question, has anyone actually netted a profit in the challenges or is it just a race to see who loses less?
Many times there is profit made. I think there has been over 50 vids, so a lot has happened
I did not see if someone said it already. But your suggestion to offset a 6/8 DC bet with a place bet of equal value is not really worth it to me. If you don’t want your DC on a 6/8 just tell dealer “No action” and they will leave your original bet on the DC for the next roll. Although it is technically a “contract bet” like the pass line or the come bet, because you have the house advantage (even against a 6/8) the casino will allow you to not take bet or “pull down” the bet. Same is true for a “don’t pass”bet.
Don’t pass don’t come are not contract bets and can be removed at anytime. Here is why you should never pull them though. ua-cam.com/video/tX-YxlO3PmQ/v-deo.html
@@ColorUp right. Maybe I didn’t say it correctly. I am saying that if a 75 DC lands on the 6/8. You can pull it down if you choose too. But putting a 60 place bet to protect the DC is not a good strategy in my opinion either. I understand why you should not pull a DC bet. Even if it’s on a 6:8. I do think, as others have mentioned that putting a hard 6/8 for 10 dollars might be the only way I would consider protecting a DC, DP or lay bet.
No, you should leave it be as you now have advantage and went through hard part (come out) but the worst thing to do is pull. If you don’t like number, just place and you are guaranteed to break even or win which is much better option than restarting thru DC and facing the 7/11 again.
@@ColorUp I guess I would be either all in on the DC or I would rather wait for it to go on a better number. But I almost never play the dark side. My strategy is to put two place bets for 60 each on 6 and 8 and as soon as one hits to go down to 64 across. That way I am playing with house money sooner but as with any strategy. If no 6 or 8s come out. It gets very expensive. Very quick.
I tried it last week and I was the shooter, lost all my $500 in less than 10 minutes, I hit the points 6 times.
I was seating the dice to avoid the point but I could not make it.
ugh miserable outing.
The dealer said I should go for fire bet. This Friday I’ll try to do better, I’ll post about it here.
When your that hot, it stinks to be on the donts
@@ColorUplet me tell you what was my strategy.
1- bet $75 on don’t, and might go with any 7 and Yo. The set the dice on 3-4-3-4 and try to keep them on axis.
2- if the point established, I’ll bet $15 across and set the dice according to the point. For 4 or 10 => 1-6-1-6 + bet on hard 4 or 10. For 5 or 9 => 3-4-3-4 + bet on C&E and for 6 or 8 => 2-5-2-5 + bet on hard 6 or 8.
I think I could not control my emotion/bank roll and went aggressive to cover my losses. I hit the C&E multiple times.
After I lost all my $500 the pit boss followed me and asked for my ID, I said for what? He told me there face recognition system recognized me and want to make sure I’m not on self exclusion. After that he gave me my ID then I left. Till now I have no idea why they asked for my ID and it dose not make any sense to check if I am on self exclusion after I lost!!
I tried this strategy in Vegas recently and unfortunately all the second rolls were 7s or 11s, when I started to bend the strategy I started to come up, ended up leaving 200 extra.
I find bending the strategy to be the best bet. If the point is 4/10, don't bet on DC, just bet on 6+8--IMO you're more likely to lose that DC bet before hitting the point, and it's too much of a risk to bet that the 7 will come first.
@PJ Strong Good thing no one cares what you, or the dealers, think.
@PJ Strong replying doesn't mean I care about your opinion, silly.
@PJ Strong I started playing this strategy and it has worked out for me. I have lost more on not playing the DC. I agree with Truan.
@@robertog9843 Casino always wins! We are all beautiful people who care about what everyone thinks. #humans
Tour odds payout on 6 and 8 are 6 to 5, not 3 to 2
Place bet odds on 6/8 pay 7:6, and odds bet on 6/8 pays 6:5
No "strategy" gets around the basic fact that, inevitably, you will lose money playing craps in the long run. Period. Your strategy makes no difference whatsoever other than to accelerate or decelerate the losing - but no strategy on earth can avoid the inevitable mathematics.
Sure, they all win sometimes, none of them win all the time.
if you like to gamble. Play the entire board..
Why does he put the place bets for 4 and 10 inside the box?
Because they are “buy” bets. Always buy the 4/10 when you can, as it’s better pay than place bet.
Way too cautious on the odds. After it hits twice it should be max odds. Could have made a killing on the 6.
I have a Craps strategy that will break you...based on Don't and a mix of Three Point Molly.
depending on odds of the table, start with Dont Pass and every roll have a follow up on Dont Come, then lay odds an 4,5,9,10 every roll.
I got kicked out of Casino Royalle three times for this
I am betting on the 7...and win ALL bets on the 7. Whereas I only lose one point at a time.
Yeah 3 point Molly don’t. I have a video on that, the dice probability is in your favor but like all strategies it gets beat. Rolling points back causes dark siders to lose
@@ColorUp very true...I lay 120 to win 60 on 4/10, 90 to win 60 on 5/9, and don't lay odds on 6/8. Always a base unit on Don't Come so if I lose a 4/5/9/10 I can bet it again. But get in a hot table where someone rolls several 4s or 10s and I'm in trouble.
Its the “how to go broke in a hurry “ strategy. 🤣
Bro when you play the dark side make a small bet on the dont come and LAY max odds once a number has been established. A 75$ bet on the dont come gets wiped out by a seven. And it will happen often if you play lots of craps, it is better to make the smallest bet on the dont come and LAY max odds once your on a number, because when seven rolls then you are on a number and will win. Why risk 75 on the dont come. If you are gong to play 75 on the dont come dont LAY 30 $ that is just stupid. IMO
You’ll have to ask original creator of strategy
@@ColorUp You need me on your show. I use a modified iron cross strategy and I play both sides in one roll. I always turn my place bets off then switch to the dark side once in favored over the house. Only playing one side on one roll is good but playing both sides in the same roll is the way to win.
@@thedude5599 can you explain it to me i was thinking about that but i have never really played craps
@@JT-od4df Explain what, how to play both sides in one roll or not betting 70 on the dont come.
@@thedude5599 how to play both sides
I will likely reply again after I watch the video, but just based on the title, it is a very silly bet from a probability stand point. out of 36 possible combinations 8 of those combination make you lose you $75 bet on the next roll. That is more than a 22% chance to lose that bet immediately. More than once in every 5 times you make that bet you will lose immediately.
Meh. It’s fun for me, stats be damned 😁
@@mikemarioplays2521 having an enjoyable time is def the most important thing. for some people the math of the game is the most enjoyable part. avoid bad bets like this one will keep in the game longer; which equals more enjoyment.
I agree that is why when you play the dont come you make the smallest bet and then LAY max odds this guy was not laying any odds he really has zero clue.
@@thedude5599 have you seen the diminishing returns charts on lower the house every unit of odds you take/lay?
@@neilrichey1998 Are you saying laying odds is bad. As in betting 75 on the dont come then laying zero odds compared to putting 5$ on the dont come then place 70 with laying the odds. Is that what you are trying to say. because that is what I am saying.
I get tired of seeing this $75 D/C strategy as the "best" strategy. No one wants to talk about that you still incur the risk of 7/11 on the 'come out roll' then it really gets interesting if you knock down a D/C or two. You knock down two D/C's and then a quick 7 out on everything else you have on the table you are walking away. Color up even branded it a "low risk" strategy which just isn't true.
Low risk is subjective, depends on type of player you are and your bankroll. I think I explained the pitfalls of this strategy though.
Why not $75 on don't pass to start?
Playing both sides at the same time is blah
You’d have to ask the original strategy creator
Wouldn't it be better to have a certain number of rolls rather than a timed challenge? You use up so much time just rearranging the bets and scratching your heads.
Maybe. I like it timed.
@@ColorUp OK No problemo!
Too much $ at risk wiped out in one roll….👎
I really like this strategy but just a few things i do different, i put $75 DC and a $5 eleven. And if my DC goes to 4,6,8 or 10 I'll put a nickel on the hard way to take away a way to lose.
Yup, Mike covers this on his video. He has a 2nd update with a Don't Pass to Hedge as well.