The "common variety Nopon" bit is still what created my absolute favorite Xenoblade meme ever. It's a picture of Jesus Christ's last meal and Riku is just chilling there with them, lmao. That and all its iterations are hilarious.
@@aylinilya. Well depending on how much of the DLC was planed in advance, it could have been a plot hole ... but one they filled out with the DLC ... or it could have never been a plot hole
The story writing really does a fantastic job in these two chapters. You really start to understand N, because the game put you in the same place. You had to watch as Mio dies and you hope for the endless now, "I don't want to play this game anymore". Then you find out what N had to do to get M, and you watch as the light leaves his eyes as he does the unthinkable because he just can't stand to watch her die again. You FEEL that hit and it works so well.
The game rly does well in showing how the lack of choice affects people in many ways. I could easily imagine myself becoming moebius just like Noah and Joran. Or even Ethel and Cammuravi's lack of choice and how in the normal world, maybe they would have been friends, teammates, or partners, but the world of Aionios only gave them the option to fight, so thats how they expressed themselves. In a way X3 has some of the most simplest messages of freedom to choose and fear of the future, but its so complex in how it manifests with all the characters
"The meaning behind the smile" is such an incredibly touching moment for me. I love Noah, I love him more than any other fictional character. The fact that just asking yourself a single question, a question that came forth from losing the most important people to him, could change his entire worldview. Seeing how this one moment of not being able to empathize kept comming to him again and again, pushing him to the point where he simply had to know how those he lost felt. It's my favorite part of the whole narrative
Agree, some might say it looks too simple and naive. But it's actually very deep to come to such a simple conclusion. That's really the moment where Noah's character shines and where you get his unshakable empathy and profoundly positive worldview and goodness he chose to believe in to just be able to see people smile, be happy and truly live again. It's just nice to see people smile you know and everyone wants to smile after all, simple as that. "That's the truth of our world".
@@kyurei4478 really the idea of only seeing smiles right before someone died is heartbreaking. Since the main 6 have ostensibly broken away from this cycle and you see the story from their perspective it's really easy to forget how awful the lives of regular soldiers are. You can assume that the first time Noah saw Chrys smile was that exact moment.
@@ilavain True. That's where you understand how sad their life is and they don't really live but survive more than anything. Indeed and most of them treat this cycle as normal because that's the only thing they ever known. When the main 6 arrive in the city and discover normal human life, it's heartbreaking when you realize all these simple things seem so incredible to them. Yes because Chris could dream of something more beyond the cycle he was trapped in. And when they all die, they could finally get free.
Just want to call attention to that moment around 7:35 where the speaker tells Noah, "But... with time, you changed." and when control is given back to the player, the light-destination is not ahead of Noah like it's been previously. As the player, you must actively change the direction Noah moves to advance!
Shit I'd never noticed this. Incredible bit of story theme reinforcement (that I'd noticed while playing but not made the connection. Thought i'd flicked the stick). Xenoblade 3 in particular is spectacular at reinforcing ita themes and storytelling through its gameplay mechanics and set-ups.
@@optimistprime3192 Want another one? After future redeemed, we learned that Noah and Mio's child is an old man, most likely in his 60-90 age range. If Noah keeps on going through the cycle, he gets a max of 10 years before he is reincarnated again, and if Z offers the choice to him each time, then at least 6-9 times, Noah chooses his descendents over Mio. Eventually, he cracked but he did choose his descendants first a couple of times. Noah and Mio only became Mobius after he completed the requirement of killing everyone in the city, so there was a good chunk of time between him dying and leaving his child alone, and then him going into the city to kill everyone, including his son.
Noah's monologue in his mind at the beginning of this chapter might just be the best writing in all of Xenoblade. It's so powerful to see his conviction be hardened to carry out Mio's legacy, which she longed to have. It resolves 2 character arcs at the same time, it's beautiful.
I think Etika, may he rest in peace, said it best after he finished Xenoblade 2. “That’s the most human I’ve felt in a long time.” That is what this series is. Elation and despair and love and loathing. The characters experience it all, and us along with them. And everyone I know who has played these games was changed by them. They enrich us. And we want to see others enriched, too. To share this glorious exaltation of “feeling human.” That is why I watch people play this game, and especially this part. I am glad to see another whose life was enriched by it
@@sairentov I'm sad i forgot him, but always happy to remember him. I watched him less and less over time, so to hear he was struggling with ??? and then hear of his death somewhat quickly in succession after not watching him really hurt. I've thought about trying to look up stuff of his that i may've missed but am always too scared to try.
The main focus of the story, as claimed by Takahashi, is "life"'; and so it definitely puts more exposure on the "spouses and babies" aspect to juxtapose it against Moebius' perversion of life. Forms of care/affection other than romantic love are very much there and they are varied and complex - think Mio and Sena, Mio and Miyabi, Fiona and Irma, Juniper and Zeon, Noah and Crys, Ethel and Cammuravi, Alexandria and her comrades, even Lanz and Sena are widely considered as the "platonic" pairing. imo even the "spouses and babies" is approached respectfully, the City has kids running around but it is made clear they're open-minded and people are not forced/encouraged to have children or find spouses. You'll find many NPCs walking around who take other paths in life and contribute to the City in different ways. If you need something less subtle, in Future Redemeed you have a protagonist literally say "all in life's rich tapestry"... So bashing XC3 for pushing "fascist baby-producing factory society" seems rather unfair and bit shortsighted. There is also the topic of Japan having an extreme population crisis with median age being 49 - so as much as it may be weird to us, they do want to encourage their people to raise children. I think it's respectable XC3 took care to be tasteful about it and to include those other forms of human relations and it has lessons to be learned.
Lanz's VA popped OFF in that confrontation with Joran, no matter how many times I watch it, when he says "Joran, your death...it changed me", my eyes well up every single time.
The ending of Chapter 5 was so intense and tragic, and then the game double down just showing Mio dying a couple more times. But no one realizes Noah is dying too every single time. It doesn't hit home until... He is forced to abandon their child. That music track is called "The Bereaved And Those Left Behind".
I’d like to say that while there is a focus on family, it’s more complicated than just “babies make everything better”. Keep in mind that N only broke after he was able to have a semi normal life, that was the very same thing that broke him. He was able to fall in love and have a family, but he was robbed of the chance to grow old. He got a happy ending by Aionios standards, but he could have only spent 3 years at most raising his son before everything was taken away from him. If anything having a child made N significantly worse because he had a brief flash of happiness before it was snuffed out. Moebius, at their core, represent the older generation stealing the future from the younger generation to keep themselves comfortable. That’s not interpretation, Takahashi himself outlined this. They hoard their wealth and power and use children as a resource. Aionios is a system designed to perpetuate a cycle of abuse just so a select few can be on top. The people of Keves and Agnus don’t get to fall in love and have children, yes, but they also don’t have the chance to grow old or even be kids themselves. Not a single soldier knows if they had siblings or who their parents are, and if they are lucky enough to meet family (cough cough Mio) the bond has been severed. There’s no place in Aionios for any from of love, be it romantic, platonic, or familial. That is the core struggle at the heart of Xenoblade 3. The system is cruel and disallows the human experience for the sake of, as Sena so aptly put, “crusty old mudders”, and must be destroyed to give everyone the chance to just live a normal life. To have hobbies, fall in love, have families, and grow old, and smile when their life ends.
I still tear up at Chapters 5 & 6, no matter how many times I see them. Even though I know how it turns out now, it still hurts in the moment to see everyone sad and in pain. Thanks for sharing your experiences. It can't be easy to go back and edit these videos.
I remember when Mio showed the crew the City and told them what happened and she said "No one can truly judge him for his actions". I turned to my wife and said "The FUCK I can't judge someone for committing genocide! Its universally wrong, wtf, Mio?!" I understand _why_ he did it, but it was still an abhorrent act. And then Future Redeemed happened and nope. I can't judge him anymore. Just a tragedy all around and really well written.
@@rhaspados666 "I could let her die, go back into the cycle again, forget she ever existed, maybe even forget why I'm even fighting Moebius...wait, what am I saying?! Z is wrong. Z is wrong. You're not N, you're Noah! You're not N, you're Noah! But I can't...! I won't...! ...Wait! Stop! I'll do it!"
This game had so many twists and turns in it. It never gives you a chance to process your emotions. I wasn't ready or Gormotti for this game when I played it on release.
Saw another comment that mentioned this and the following: D struck Vandham through his chest, but it didn’t kill him and allowed Vandham to activate the Ouruboros stone for the party. And so D learns and strikes Nia through her heart (though we don’t see it, given Eunie’s remark about all the blood it can be implied).....which doesn’t matter because she’s a Flesh Eater and her core is in the center of her chest! I like to think that says a little something. It’s like after Dirk became the monster he is, Aionios eventually said “Nah get pranked, hold this Joran.”
I finished this game for the first time over a year ago now but I’m still learning new things - for example, N was always destined to lose M, as seen in these flashbacks. And he turned to the endless now to keep her. However, when M and Mio switch, and M is sent on instead of Mio, N again loses her. It shows that that was always his destiny, regardless of what path he would take.
25:07 "10 out of 10 Voice Acting" she says, literally mere minutes away from the most amazing performance of Harry McEntrie! Guess afterwards then it needs to be raised to 12 out of 10 😁
12:36 I'm a boy but I proudly say that this is the first time (and it'll probably be the only time) that I cried during a vidéo game séquence ! These two chapters blew my mind so much! When I thought that I was disliking this game when I first tried it. And now it's one of the most important video games in my life! I totally fell in love with every characters and was so invest in the quest as if I was the 7th ouroboros. When I played XC1, I thought It would never be topped, and now XC3 Blew my expectations so up! I truly wonder if monolith soft will repeat the same experience again!
1:45:57 You can see how much love to detail went into this game from the developers when even the fingers that are playing the flute are animated in the correct way according to the notes played! Not to mention that the composer team handcrafted their own flutes to be played for all those scenes... It's just such an overwhelmingly beautiful piece of cooperation on all sides, director, composers, developers....
The first few hours of this chapter absolutely devastate me every single time I watch them... And I have definitely watched them over 50 times. Thanks for gifting this
19:00 And that is what makes N such an amazingly well executed villain. Always a sign of a well written one if you can relate to why he would have chosen that path. And to pull it off so extremely well you really need stellar writing and setting the scene in the right atmosphere. N for sure is one of the greatest villians of video game history.
Whats so beautiful about this game, is that there are sooooo many different people and how they are affected by not having choice. For example, Joran thinking he is worthless because of a world that has "no need" for his art talents, and therefore trying to become a people pleaser to think he can "get his wings" and wishing to be something, he just isnt. Even if his friends (kind of) appreciate his art, the world doesnt, and he feels this pressure of not being enough.
Lol - People forget Nia is a blade and you have to destroy the core crystal to kill them. I get it though because she's so beloved and it's a shock. This series is such an emotional ride and it's so awesome to still see people discovering it and loving it.
Chapter 5 Ending and Chapter 6 beginning are an emotional rollercoaster ride that no game before, no JRPG or RPG ever has managed to put me through. I played all of the big names, the amazingly beautiful endings of Final Fantasy VIII and IX, the awesome ending of Grandia, the very sad ending of Lufia II or Illusion of Time / Gaia and of course even Xenoblade Chronicles 1 + 2 and everything that lead to their endings.....I thought I was prepared enough. But well damn, I wasn't. Nobody was. And nobody ever will be the first time. And even the second or third time, even when you know how the plot will evolve, some scenes just STILL hit like a damn truck and make you realize what amazing masters of their craft the guys of Monolith Soft are. I really have to tip my hat to them for this yet unparalleled level of execution. And how Takahashi in the end connected it all so naturally and organically, as if he planned it all along. And knowing him, he probably did, that absolute mad man that kept holding on to his dream finally being executed for around 30 years from Xenogears over Xenosage to finally Xenoblade. AB! SO! LUTE! MAD! MAN! In the best way possible. Back when I first played it I loved it, then hated it, then lovehated it, then didn't want to play it anymore since I thought "I'M DONE WITH THIS SHIT!!" but I kept on and the redemption of the beginning of Chapter 6.....goddamit....
Absolutely. I don't think any future Xenoblade will ever make me cry as much as 3 does, just because of the situation of 3's world being so dire and devoid of hope leading its people to make terrible and heartbreaking decisions. This game will truly be special in my eyes.
Am I the only one subconsciouly memorizing majority of the script after watching tons of playthroughs and reactions? I just find myself reciting lines with them. 😂
I like how you still are stuck remembering the chapters where things to simpler. You should know by now this is how Xenoblade works. It baits you with a simple goal: beat the faced mechon, climb the big tree. Then, your need for revenge is torn away from you, you get roped into preventing war crimes before it all comes full circle and you are face to face with the beings that set the rules upon which all life exist. Forced to question why things exist and how can they be better, the future of the world and the memories that built and limit it. It’s like that “you are being rescued, please do not resist” meme but as “you will philosophize, please do not resist.”
Pretty much everything that can be said about the incredible character and narrative beats in this chapter already have been, so instead of just adding to the cacophony, I just want to throw some love toward Fiona's Hero Quest here. I confess, when I first played through the game, I loved the tone set, but I left with a real sense of frustration at how unclear Irma's character and motivations were. But surprising no-one more than me, I think that in the long term it may be my actual favorite Hero Quest. The bittersweetness of the story is pitch perfect and the muddy characterizations that initially annoyed me are - in hindsight - so carefully considered and expertly manipulated. If not my favorite, at the very least, it's definitely the Hero Quest that has stuck with me, emotionally, the longest and resonated the strongest. It's just... so good.
man its really cool how the game goes 'hey I know your emotionally raw from the end of chapter 5 and have probably been playing for an hour already' *opens a bag a salt as they grab a hand full* 'but you had your pause point and I have some pathos to dig into '
This game and Majoras mask are the only 2 games where I felt hopelessness wash over me despite knowing it’s just a game. Lots of apocalyptic games/narratives are amazing, lots of games have incredible writing and characters. Yet only Xenoblade 3 an MM ever made me sorry for the entire universe and made me think about these little NPC’s as though they were people with hopes/dreams/aspirations, and the world itself needed to be stopped.
54:35 Ah, when that beautiful theme sets in, as another UA-camr once called it "The theme of dealing with 5 hour long cutscene emotional trauma and finally being able to save again"
You know I've vried like 3 times while playing other ganeS, but Xenoblade 3 waz the first and only time I've ungly cried like I actually lost someone in real life.
Nia as a blade theoretically can't die per her lore from Xeno 2. She has such potent healing power she would outlive the universe as her cells continually regenerate. It's the reason she didn't die here as well.
The difference between N and noah it should be obvious N-carrying heavy burden to himself and focusing on saving 1 person Noah-carrying heavy burden with others and saving all that close to him The reason N lost fighting moebius thousands of time is because he try to 1v1 moebius Meanwhile noah beating moebius with others help to win the fight So thats how he wins Many people say the MC is bland but for me he works perfectly with this concept of the story
The transition from emotional mess (no shame - we all had our turn) to analyzing what else could be a 10 out of 10 is a *very* familiar defense mechanism to me.
Hi Violet, im new to your channel and subbed when I saw your God of War playthrough. Im curious, did you beat Ragnarok as well? As the new God of War games are my favorite and would like to see a Ragnarok playthrough if you have one.
I know I'm not the only one waiting for the next videos. I won't say why out of respect. If anyone ever spoils anything deserves to be put in the endless now cycle, not the one that gets a homecoming. The one that gets his ass killed in training lol
In my opinion, during their previous chapter's conversation, Shania saw in Sena what she could have been like if Ghondor had been as supportive as Mio. In fact, in the flashbacks we see two opposite ways of how both of their friends reacted when they were imitated. Ghondor was a terrible friend.
Remember Nia is a blade, one with incredible healing abilities, D doesn't know how blades function so he shot her heart instead of her core crystal which she could easily heal
Before Future Redeemed came out, i theorized (not very seriously) that their child was named Hope. i would have liked that, but what we got was good, too!
There are two types of Xenoblade fans when Nia got stabbed through the heart: 1. "Oh no! Nia! They killed Nia! Why are they doing this to me?!" 2. "Woah! Ok, all that's going to do is make her angry. You can't kill her." I was of the 2nd bunch, knowing full well her healing powers.
I truly resonated with Shania's suicide. She's lived her whole life in the shadow of her best friend, her strongest emotional support, and not only that,but she was berated by her own best friend for trying too hard to change into someone she wasn't because she thought that it'd be the only way for her to be praised, to be looked at with kindness and perhaps admiration. Gondhor wasn't able to tell Shania that she loved her as a friend because she was herself, and it made Shania fall into the deep end because not even her biggest emotional support could've helped her figure out that she could've shone as a person by being herself. She fell into desperation, anger, hatred towards everybody else because nobody told her it was okay to just be herself, so she tried to create herself a goal, a purpose, even if it was the worst possible outcome, she didn't care, she wanted to have a purpose, and to be looked upon, and when she saw all her efforts amounted to nothing, she decided to take what felt like the easy way out. I've felt like that, and I'm glad I got out of this pit.
I will say though: I still don’t really empathize with N. He genocided a city, and laughed as he forced Noah and the party to rot in a cell for a month; and took delight in knowing that Noah was going to watch his Mio go through the homecoming and never see her again. He literally preys on people in this world that he sees as fodder to keep his life and M’s going. I get the whole empathizing with N. But when M says we can’t judge him…. “No. Next time we see him I’m killing him,” lol
In my point of view the whole Noha and N is based on a Xenogears plot point. SPOILER Basically, there's a theory that says that our mind is made by 3 parts. The Ego, Super Ego and Id. The Id is the part of our personality that most closely follow our basic instincts, if you want something the Id will try to get it by *any* *means* necessary (its basically our innate violence and aggressivity). Noah shouldn't exist at all because N is still alive so his soul can be recycled, but in the moment the original *Noah* became *N* his psyche broke to the point of ripping his Id from the other parts. This is why Noah didn't want to release his Blade as a child, is very pacificist and only kills if it's really necessary. He lacks his Id. Just to be clear, the Ego and Super Ego can also display violence if necessary. The Super Ego is responsible to also achieve your desires but following your moral code and ethic, and finally the Ego to act as an arbiter between the other two and reaching a realistic way to achieve your desire.... one that usually doesn't end in you dying by bullets 'cuz you tried to get money by robbing a bank (thanks Id I guess).
The "common variety Nopon" bit is still what created my absolute favorite Xenoblade meme ever. It's a picture of Jesus Christ's last meal and Riku is just chilling there with them, lmao. That and all its iterations are hilarious.
That's not too far off of the truth honestly
*gasp* that's who the Blue Guy was at the Olympic ceremony!
I am realizing now that the reason M gave Ghondor the key specifically was because the name Ghondor is very familiar to her.
Oh my god, I hadn't considered
THATS FUCKIN AMAZING
and they called it a plot hole, thanks for this loll
@@aylinilya. Well depending on how much of the DLC was planed in advance, it could have been a plot hole ... but one they filled out with the DLC ... or it could have never been a plot hole
The story writing really does a fantastic job in these two chapters. You really start to understand N, because the game put you in the same place. You had to watch as Mio dies and you hope for the endless now, "I don't want to play this game anymore". Then you find out what N had to do to get M, and you watch as the light leaves his eyes as he does the unthinkable because he just can't stand to watch her die again. You FEEL that hit and it works so well.
The game rly does well in showing how the lack of choice affects people in many ways. I could easily imagine myself becoming moebius just like Noah and Joran. Or even Ethel and Cammuravi's lack of choice and how in the normal world, maybe they would have been friends, teammates, or partners, but the world of Aionios only gave them the option to fight, so thats how they expressed themselves. In a way X3 has some of the most simplest messages of freedom to choose and fear of the future, but its so complex in how it manifests with all the characters
"The meaning behind the smile" is such an incredibly touching moment for me. I love Noah, I love him more than any other fictional character. The fact that just asking yourself a single question, a question that came forth from losing the most important people to him, could change his entire worldview. Seeing how this one moment of not being able to empathize kept comming to him again and again, pushing him to the point where he simply had to know how those he lost felt. It's my favorite part of the whole narrative
I've had this exact sentiment but couldn't put it into words myself. Fully agree!
Agree, some might say it looks too simple and naive. But it's actually very deep to come to such a simple conclusion. That's really the moment where Noah's character shines and where you get his unshakable empathy and profoundly positive worldview and goodness he chose to believe in to just be able to see people smile, be happy and truly live again.
It's just nice to see people smile you know and everyone wants to smile after all, simple as that.
"That's the truth of our world".
@@kyurei4478 really the idea of only seeing smiles right before someone died is heartbreaking. Since the main 6 have ostensibly broken away from this cycle and you see the story from their perspective it's really easy to forget how awful the lives of regular soldiers are. You can assume that the first time Noah saw Chrys smile was that exact moment.
@@ilavain True. That's where you understand how sad their life is and they don't really live but survive more than anything. Indeed and most of them treat this cycle as normal because that's the only thing they ever known. When the main 6 arrive in the city and discover normal human life, it's heartbreaking when you realize all these simple things seem so incredible to them. Yes because Chris could dream of something more beyond the cycle he was trapped in. And when they all die, they could finally get free.
It is once again time for the monthly tradition of watching XBC3 emotionally destroy PermanentViolet.
My favorite pastime.
I’m very excited to see her reaction to Future Redeemed
Just want to call attention to that moment around 7:35 where the speaker tells Noah, "But... with time, you changed." and when control is given back to the player, the light-destination is not ahead of Noah like it's been previously.
As the player, you must actively change the direction Noah moves to advance!
Oh nice catch!
And just like that, once more I find yet another reason to absolutely love this game.
Shit I'd never noticed this. Incredible bit of story theme reinforcement (that I'd noticed while playing but not made the connection. Thought i'd flicked the stick).
Xenoblade 3 in particular is spectacular at reinforcing ita themes and storytelling through its gameplay mechanics and set-ups.
@@optimistprime3192 Want another one? After future redeemed, we learned that Noah and Mio's child is an old man, most likely in his 60-90 age range. If Noah keeps on going through the cycle, he gets a max of 10 years before he is reincarnated again, and if Z offers the choice to him each time, then at least 6-9 times, Noah chooses his descendents over Mio. Eventually, he cracked but he did choose his descendants first a couple of times. Noah and Mio only became Mobius after he completed the requirement of killing everyone in the city, so there was a good chunk of time between him dying and leaving his child alone, and then him going into the city to kill everyone, including his son.
Noah's monologue in his mind at the beginning of this chapter might just be the best writing in all of Xenoblade. It's so powerful to see his conviction be hardened to carry out Mio's legacy, which she longed to have. It resolves 2 character arcs at the same time, it's beautiful.
I think Etika, may he rest in peace, said it best after he finished Xenoblade 2. “That’s the most human I’ve felt in a long time.” That is what this series is. Elation and despair and love and loathing. The characters experience it all, and us along with them. And everyone I know who has played these games was changed by them. They enrich us. And we want to see others enriched, too. To share this glorious exaltation of “feeling human.”
That is why I watch people play this game, and especially this part. I am glad to see another whose life was enriched by it
Think Etika would've absolutely loved XC3 and FR too, it would be a damn gameplay of gameplays. Hope he stays remembered for long.
I miss him. And I agree with the other commenter, I think he would've loved this game.
@@sairentov I'm sad i forgot him, but always happy to remember him. I watched him less and less over time, so to hear he was struggling with ??? and then hear of his death somewhat quickly in succession after not watching him really hurt. I've thought about trying to look up stuff of his that i may've missed but am always too scared to try.
Oh you who floats through the comment current. You must yield
I can't! I won't!
How many times has it been now?
How many Xenoblade reactions has it been now?
The main focus of the story, as claimed by Takahashi, is "life"'; and so it definitely puts more exposure on the "spouses and babies" aspect to juxtapose it against Moebius' perversion of life. Forms of care/affection other than romantic love are very much there and they are varied and complex - think Mio and Sena, Mio and Miyabi, Fiona and Irma, Juniper and Zeon, Noah and Crys, Ethel and Cammuravi, Alexandria and her comrades, even Lanz and Sena are widely considered as the "platonic" pairing.
imo even the "spouses and babies" is approached respectfully, the City has kids running around but it is made clear they're open-minded and people are not forced/encouraged to have children or find spouses. You'll find many NPCs walking around who take other paths in life and contribute to the City in different ways. If you need something less subtle, in Future Redemeed you have a protagonist literally say "all in life's rich tapestry"...
So bashing XC3 for pushing "fascist baby-producing factory society" seems rather unfair and bit shortsighted.
There is also the topic of Japan having an extreme population crisis with median age being 49 - so as much as it may be weird to us, they do want to encourage their people to raise children. I think it's respectable XC3 took care to be tasteful about it and to include those other forms of human relations and it has lessons to be learned.
Yeah, that tangent was kind of unhinged when just the main party alone shows love through friendship.
Lanz's VA popped OFF in that confrontation with Joran, no matter how many times I watch it, when he says "Joran, your death...it changed me", my eyes well up every single time.
The ending of Chapter 5 was so intense and tragic, and then the game double down just showing Mio dying a couple more times. But no one realizes Noah is dying too every single time. It doesn't hit home until... He is forced to abandon their child. That music track is called "The Bereaved And Those Left Behind".
I’d like to say that while there is a focus on family, it’s more complicated than just “babies make everything better”. Keep in mind that N only broke after he was able to have a semi normal life, that was the very same thing that broke him. He was able to fall in love and have a family, but he was robbed of the chance to grow old. He got a happy ending by Aionios standards, but he could have only spent 3 years at most raising his son before everything was taken away from him. If anything having a child made N significantly worse because he had a brief flash of happiness before it was snuffed out.
Moebius, at their core, represent the older generation stealing the future from the younger generation to keep themselves comfortable. That’s not interpretation, Takahashi himself outlined this. They hoard their wealth and power and use children as a resource. Aionios is a system designed to perpetuate a cycle of abuse just so a select few can be on top.
The people of Keves and Agnus don’t get to fall in love and have children, yes, but they also don’t have the chance to grow old or even be kids themselves. Not a single soldier knows if they had siblings or who their parents are, and if they are lucky enough to meet family (cough cough Mio) the bond has been severed. There’s no place in Aionios for any from of love, be it romantic, platonic, or familial.
That is the core struggle at the heart of Xenoblade 3. The system is cruel and disallows the human experience for the sake of, as Sena so aptly put, “crusty old mudders”, and must be destroyed to give everyone the chance to just live a normal life. To have hobbies, fall in love, have families, and grow old, and smile when their life ends.
This comment is underrated, thank you.
(Reads title) I can't believe Eunie would do this...
I still tear up at Chapters 5 & 6, no matter how many times I see them. Even though I know how it turns out now, it still hurts in the moment to see everyone sad and in pain. Thanks for sharing your experiences. It can't be easy to go back and edit these videos.
Every time I start thinking about this project, an upload happens... it's magical!
Oi, sparks, then you have to think about it more often! :D
@@Justforvisit Huuuuh... I guess you're right! :O :3
8:31 Man, that scene hits SO DIFFERENT after "Future Redeemed"...
I remember when Mio showed the crew the City and told them what happened and she said "No one can truly judge him for his actions". I turned to my wife and said "The FUCK I can't judge someone for committing genocide! Its universally wrong, wtf, Mio?!" I understand _why_ he did it, but it was still an abhorrent act.
And then Future Redeemed happened and nope. I can't judge him anymore. Just a tragedy all around and really well written.
@Bahruchnik we can say that N was wrong and from the outside looking in however if ever given the choice he was would we be able to say no?
@@rhaspados666 "I could let her die, go back into the cycle again, forget she ever existed, maybe even forget why I'm even fighting Moebius...wait, what am I saying?! Z is wrong. Z is wrong. You're not N, you're Noah! You're not N, you're Noah! But I can't...! I won't...! ...Wait! Stop! I'll do it!"
This game had so many twists and turns in it. It never gives you a chance to process your emotions. I wasn't ready or Gormotti for this game when I played it on release.
It really showed us a thing or three!
This game stabs you in the gut and then delivers the most heartfelt message of hope.
After the gut-wrenching chapter 5-6 transition, Mio’s quest with Miyabi was the heart-warming and wholesome reprieve we all needed.
2:55:30 a nice detail is that Mio diary no longer has the day marks, just empty pages to fill
Oh, chapter six. The moment I took like a three month break from this game.
38:00 is the point where the heart is a bit better but the brain is just splattered on the floor.
the meltdown at 24:25 is the best emotional review of this game i've ever seen. That's basically it, that is all you need to know
Nia did not die, because D stabbed her through the heart. But Nia is a flesh eater. You need to destroy her core to kill her.
and because of her healing powers she recovered immediatly
Saw another comment that mentioned this and the following: D struck Vandham through his chest, but it didn’t kill him and allowed Vandham to activate the Ouruboros stone for the party. And so D learns and strikes Nia through her heart (though we don’t see it, given Eunie’s remark about all the blood it can be implied).....which doesn’t matter because she’s a Flesh Eater and her core is in the center of her chest!
I like to think that says a little something. It’s like after Dirk became the monster he is, Aionios eventually said “Nah get pranked, hold this Joran.”
54:00 "Shania didn't have a Mio."
Ghondor was her Mio, but… yeah. Ghondor did more harm than good.
I really love the comparisons between Mio/Sena and Ghondor/Shania
I finished this game for the first time over a year ago now but I’m still learning new things - for example, N was always destined to lose M, as seen in these flashbacks. And he turned to the endless now to keep her. However, when M and Mio switch, and M is sent on instead of Mio, N again loses her. It shows that that was always his destiny, regardless of what path he would take.
25:07 "10 out of 10 Voice Acting" she says, literally mere minutes away from the most amazing performance of Harry McEntrie! Guess afterwards then it needs to be raised to 12 out of 10 😁
My thoughts exactly lol
Man, colony relations really changed that day
It’s good to keep a record of when that happens.
Y’all seem like 2 rare doo-dah’s right there.
Harry McIntire really is a GOAT voice actor. I hope he has a long and successful career.
12:36 I'm a boy but I proudly say that this is the first time (and it'll probably be the only time) that I cried during a vidéo game séquence ! These two chapters blew my mind so much!
When I thought that I was disliking this game when I first tried it. And now it's one of the most important video games in my life! I totally fell in love with every characters and was so invest in the quest as if I was the 7th ouroboros.
When I played XC1, I thought It would never be topped, and now XC3 Blew my expectations so up! I truly wonder if monolith soft will repeat the same experience again!
1:45:57 You can see how much love to detail went into this game from the developers when even the fingers that are playing the flute are animated in the correct way according to the notes played!
Not to mention that the composer team handcrafted their own flutes to be played for all those scenes...
It's just such an overwhelmingly beautiful piece of cooperation on all sides, director, composers, developers....
I can’t believe I’m still here a sobbing mess after seeing these scenes dozens of times ugh I have to get ready for work soon
The first few hours of this chapter absolutely devastate me every single time I watch them... And I have definitely watched them over 50 times. Thanks for gifting this
9:55 Noah and Mio’s child calls for aid
I’m not joking
The scene between Lanz and Joran is so moving! One of my favorite in this game.
19:00 And that is what makes N such an amazingly well executed villain. Always a sign of a well written one if you can relate to why he would have chosen that path. And to pull it off so extremely well you really need stellar writing and setting the scene in the right atmosphere. N for sure is one of the greatest villians of video game history.
Hit you like a Eunie!
Yes, Eunie's the Bus!
Whats so beautiful about this game, is that there are sooooo many different people and how they are affected by not having choice. For example, Joran thinking he is worthless because of a world that has "no need" for his art talents, and therefore trying to become a people pleaser to think he can "get his wings" and wishing to be something, he just isnt. Even if his friends (kind of) appreciate his art, the world doesnt, and he feels this pressure of not being enough.
Koran and Lanz was amazing as well
Common variety emotional damage.
Lol - People forget Nia is a blade and you have to destroy the core crystal to kill them. I get it though because she's so beloved and it's a shock.
This series is such an emotional ride and it's so awesome to still see people discovering it and loving it.
Flesh eaters do get old and die though, as shown by Cole right?
Chapter 5 Ending and Chapter 6 beginning are an emotional rollercoaster ride that no game before, no JRPG or RPG ever has managed to put me through. I played all of the big names, the amazingly beautiful endings of Final Fantasy VIII and IX, the awesome ending of Grandia, the very sad ending of Lufia II or Illusion of Time / Gaia and of course even Xenoblade Chronicles 1 + 2 and everything that lead to their endings.....I thought I was prepared enough. But well damn, I wasn't. Nobody was. And nobody ever will be the first time. And even the second or third time, even when you know how the plot will evolve, some scenes just STILL hit like a damn truck and make you realize what amazing masters of their craft the guys of Monolith Soft are.
I really have to tip my hat to them for this yet unparalleled level of execution. And how Takahashi in the end connected it all so naturally and organically, as if he planned it all along. And knowing him, he probably did, that absolute mad man that kept holding on to his dream finally being executed for around 30 years from Xenogears over Xenosage to finally Xenoblade. AB! SO! LUTE! MAD! MAN! In the best way possible.
Back when I first played it I loved it, then hated it, then lovehated it, then didn't want to play it anymore since I thought "I'M DONE WITH THIS SHIT!!" but I kept on and the redemption of the beginning of Chapter 6.....goddamit....
i always ugly cried watching other people play/reacting from chapter 3 build up to 4, 5 & 6. The game man....
@@brosplit 100%
Absolutely. I don't think any future Xenoblade will ever make me cry as much as 3 does, just because of the situation of 3's world being so dire and devoid of hope leading its people to make terrible and heartbreaking decisions. This game will truly be special in my eyes.
@@brosplit Same here, same here
Am I the only one subconsciouly memorizing majority of the script after watching tons of playthroughs and reactions? I just find myself reciting lines with them. 😂
I like how you still are stuck remembering the chapters where things to simpler.
You should know by now this is how Xenoblade works. It baits you with a simple goal: beat the faced mechon, climb the big tree. Then, your need for revenge is torn away from you, you get roped into preventing war crimes before it all comes full circle and you are face to face with the beings that set the rules upon which all life exist. Forced to question why things exist and how can they be better, the future of the world and the memories that built and limit it.
It’s like that “you are being rescued, please do not resist” meme but as “you will philosophize, please do not resist.”
Man I love the reactions so comparable to how I felt you did a good job enduring this and making these uploads! Keep it up!
It’s great seeing people react to this bit with the same raw emotional turmoil that I felt playing this at 3am
"ive been waiting for this"character from my second favorite game directly after this(tbh I had no idea what to comment so this is for the algorithm)
Poor Irma, on the way into becoming Triton, just not enough time to get there.
I was really waiting for you to upload a new video of this series, thank you so much :)
Pretty much everything that can be said about the incredible character and narrative beats in this chapter already have been, so instead of just adding to the cacophony, I just want to throw some love toward Fiona's Hero Quest here. I confess, when I first played through the game, I loved the tone set, but I left with a real sense of frustration at how unclear Irma's character and motivations were. But surprising no-one more than me, I think that in the long term it may be my actual favorite Hero Quest.
The bittersweetness of the story is pitch perfect and the muddy characterizations that initially annoyed me are - in hindsight - so carefully considered and expertly manipulated. If not my favorite, at the very least, it's definitely the Hero Quest that has stuck with me, emotionally, the longest and resonated the strongest. It's just... so good.
It's definitely the most emotional, but Zeon has always been my favorite hero.
01:23:05 After all that emotional turmoil I really had to burst out in laughter after your remark :D
Nice!
Just yesterday I finished watching all your other XC3-Videos so far and now you post chapter 6, yay!
same
man its really cool how the game goes
'hey I know your emotionally raw from the end of chapter 5 and have probably been playing for an hour already'
*opens a bag a salt as they grab a hand full*
'but you had your pause point and I have some pathos to dig into '
This game and Majoras mask are the only 2 games where I felt hopelessness wash over me despite knowing it’s just a game.
Lots of apocalyptic games/narratives are amazing, lots of games have incredible writing and characters. Yet only Xenoblade 3 an MM ever made me sorry for the entire universe and made me think about these little NPC’s as though they were people with hopes/dreams/aspirations, and the world itself needed to be stopped.
51:40 “don’t you jump off the edge, please.” 🫣
54:35 Ah, when that beautiful theme sets in, as another UA-camr once called it "The theme of dealing with 5 hour long cutscene emotional trauma and finally being able to save again"
You know I've vried like 3 times while playing other ganeS, but Xenoblade 3 waz the first and only time I've ungly cried like I actually lost someone in real life.
Noah is like a plastic bottle: getting created, filled with life and recycled after his death on the regular
The bus that hit you was driven by Eunie for sure.
"Eunie's the bus!"
Seriously, writing is a 11 out of 10.
Words that never reached you is the Xenoblade version of the other promise
Woooo Chapter 6!
I was so glad mwamba came back
This series is my favorite on youtube right now. I am so eager for the finale!
I love how your reaction to the hair choice was nearly identical to mine lmao
2:27:46 Confirmed: Taion is a Star Trek fan, favorite movie: "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country"
Nia as a blade theoretically can't die per her lore from Xeno 2. She has such potent healing power she would outlive the universe as her cells continually regenerate. It's the reason she didn't die here as well.
Eyyy Chapter 6 finally up!
The difference between N and noah it should be obvious
N-carrying heavy burden to himself and focusing on saving 1 person
Noah-carrying heavy burden with others and saving all that close to him
The reason N lost fighting moebius thousands of time is because he try to 1v1 moebius
Meanwhile noah beating moebius with others help to win the fight
So thats how he wins
Many people say the MC is bland but for me he works perfectly with this concept of the story
24:38 i like this face
I've seen Fiona's hero quest like 3 times now and it still makes me tear up
Do yourself a favor and play Miyabi's hero quest. It will put a little bit of your faith in humanity back.
I never seen a twist this good.
The transition from emotional mess (no shame - we all had our turn) to analyzing what else could be a 10 out of 10 is a *very* familiar defense mechanism to me.
Hi Violet, im new to your channel and subbed when I saw your God of War playthrough. Im curious, did you beat Ragnarok as well? As the new God of War games are my favorite and would like to see a Ragnarok playthrough if you have one.
I know I'm not the only one waiting for the next videos. I won't say why out of respect. If anyone ever spoils anything deserves to be put in the endless now cycle, not the one that gets a homecoming. The one that gets his ass killed in training lol
Yup, the start of Chapter 6 is a real treat for one specific reason
In my opinion, during their previous chapter's conversation, Shania saw in Sena what she could have been like if Ghondor had been as supportive as Mio. In fact, in the flashbacks we see two opposite ways of how both of their friends reacted when they were imitated. Ghondor was a terrible friend.
Remember Nia is a blade, one with incredible healing abilities, D doesn't know how blades function so he shot her heart instead of her core crystal which she could easily heal
Remember, Nia is a Blade (Eater). As long as her core is intact, she’s golden. Guess we’re lucky D thought a simple heart shot would work.
Both Noahs are stubborn and insensitive to a fault despite how empathetic they can be!
One's life just significantly sucked more than the other's.
8:00 hits *so* much harder after the dlc.
24:20 when you chose the endless now
Before Future Redeemed came out, i theorized (not very seriously) that their child was named Hope. i would have liked that, but what we got was good, too!
26:04 that's such a mood for a Xenoblade fan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
44:33 the jumpscare 😂😂😂😂
1:28:32 it’s pronounced shpeel, not speel.
Man I love watching this game rip out people’s still beating hearts.
2:16:49
...don't worry, I get that all the time
There are two types of Xenoblade fans when Nia got stabbed through the heart:
1. "Oh no! Nia! They killed Nia! Why are they doing this to me?!"
2. "Woah! Ok, all that's going to do is make her angry. You can't kill her."
I was of the 2nd bunch, knowing full well her healing powers.
9:53 the baby’s name is the same as another character you’ve met spoiler
It’s Gondor
2:16:47
"Cause for about a few months I've been living next door to Travis
TRAVIS! WHO THE EFF IS TRAVIS?"
Please tell me she played Sena's quest later!!!!
I truly resonated with Shania's suicide. She's lived her whole life in the shadow of her best friend, her strongest emotional support, and not only that,but she was berated by her own best friend for trying too hard to change into someone she wasn't because she thought that it'd be the only way for her to be praised, to be looked at with kindness and perhaps admiration. Gondhor wasn't able to tell Shania that she loved her as a friend because she was herself, and it made Shania fall into the deep end because not even her biggest emotional support could've helped her figure out that she could've shone as a person by being herself. She fell into desperation, anger, hatred towards everybody else because nobody told her it was okay to just be herself, so she tried to create herself a goal, a purpose, even if it was the worst possible outcome, she didn't care, she wanted to have a purpose, and to be looked upon, and when she saw all her efforts amounted to nothing, she decided to take what felt like the easy way out. I've felt like that, and I'm glad I got out of this pit.
No instagram?
If your not suffering playing the story of a xenoblade game your not playing a xenoblade game
2:09:06 And this is Why We Love Eunie ☺
2:22:14 Because Monolith Soft cares for details and atmosphere, unlike so many other modern developers ^_^
I love your videos perms but can you for the love of god they say the person name in the game and you still say it wrong 😊
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Nia is a blade, you can literally crush all her organs and she will still regenerate as long as her core crystal remains intact.
She even says in XC2: "there's no injury you can inflict that I can't heal"
You're taking this a little too seriously. It's supposed to be emotional and they did a great job.
I will say though: I still don’t really empathize with N. He genocided a city, and laughed as he forced Noah and the party to rot in a cell for a month; and took delight in knowing that Noah was going to watch his Mio go through the homecoming and never see her again. He literally preys on people in this world that he sees as fodder to keep his life and M’s going.
I get the whole empathizing with N. But when M says we can’t judge him…. “No. Next time we see him I’m killing him,” lol
N is darth vader their character and motivation is soo similar even maniuplated in the same ways
In my point of view the whole Noha and N is based on a Xenogears plot point.
SPOILER
Basically, there's a theory that says that our mind is made by 3 parts. The Ego, Super Ego and Id.
The Id is the part of our personality that most closely follow our basic instincts, if you want something the Id will try to get it by *any* *means* necessary (its basically our innate violence and aggressivity).
Noah shouldn't exist at all because N is still alive so his soul can be recycled, but in the moment the original *Noah* became *N* his psyche broke to the point of ripping his Id from the other parts.
This is why Noah didn't want to release his Blade as a child, is very pacificist and only kills if it's really necessary. He lacks his Id.
Just to be clear, the Ego and Super Ego can also display violence if necessary.
The Super Ego is responsible to also achieve your desires but following your moral code and ethic, and finally the Ego to act as an arbiter between the other two and reaching a realistic way to achieve your desire.... one that usually doesn't end in you dying by bullets 'cuz you tried to get money by robbing a bank (thanks Id I guess).