Post Office's Richard Taylor Complains Media Focused On Scandal Victims In Secret Recording
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
- EXCLUSIVE: Secret recordings reveal Post Office's Richard Taylor complaining the media was focused on scandal victims instead of their successes in stopping convictions being overturned.
Hundreds of Post Office branch managers were convicted of swindling money on the basis of evidence from the technology giant’s flawed Horizon accounting system.
Rishi Sunak on Wednesday announced that hundreds of subpostmasters in England and Wales could have their names cleared by the end of the year under blanket legislation to be introduced within weeks.
Richard says: "The reason why most of them weren't convicted is that the money's got lost!"
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The arrogance and cruelty of these people is breathtaking! 🇬🇧
People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
This is unbelievable, from the most trusted brand in the UK to the most corrupt brand - This is outrageous
Wow. So good of Richard Taylor to state clearly the Post Office's position on this. They are perfectly happy to wrongly charge and convict 73 innocent people if they can convict 23 others.
Let's face it. Those 23 others were probably convicted because of a threatening plea-bargain, as we know happened ("say you were falsely accounting and we won't charge you with theft").
What a disgusting individual.
73? .......Apparently there were 983 convictions over 16 years!
People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
@@chrislambert9435 You keep posting the same crap everywhere. Stop it.
@@alisonwilson9749 More matter, less Art
@@alisonwilson9749He obviously works for the Post Office or within Fujitsu’s IT dept.
Hopefully his day of reckoning is coming.
These Post Office Execs need to be prosecuted and jailed immediately.
This report is a sensationalist report, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
@@chrislambert9435 You're Bradshaw, then?
Nothing is over until the people responsible for this fiasco are behind bars.
Won't happen
@@noelfleming3567 Peverting the course of justice could apply to some individuals.
@@chrislambert9435 Rubbish, the number of postmasters being prosecuted for alledged dishonesty does not suddenly jump to 700 in such a short space of time. I have no doubt that there are some dishonest people who will get away with robbery, but if the Post Office and Government had come clean in the first instance we would not be in that position now.
@@stephenbaxter3369Paula Vennals lied to a parliamentary committee under oath which has been recorded and witnessed. That alone is a criminal offence which carries with it a custodial sentence.
If this does not happen somewhere down the line then this country will be looked upon as corrupt.
Brilliant............the truth is prevailing
What happened to the money the victims ‘paid back’ if it was never missing in the first place 😡
Apparently it went into a ring fenced account used for unexplained income and couldn't be released for three years.
Strange how ALL these mistakes ended in money lost by post offices and not one showed a profit FOR the post office!!!! If it was random surely there would be as many
Was nice to hear from the post office director of communications He should be out of a job by Monday
Where do the Post Office find these psychopaths?
When you hear something like this from a current senior executive, it seems clear that the culture in the PO is irredeemably broken. Maybe we need to consider some kind of radical restructuring to clear out the old guard?
Definitely and it starts at the top.
As current Postmasters we would like the following outcome:
• • All SubPostmasters to have their monies returned which was fraudulently taken from them by the PoL. Plus compensation for the loss of future earnings, emotional and financial stress caused by losses, criminal records, loans, overdrafts, loss of earnings and so forth. .
• A complete overhaul of the PoL culture and organisational structure (a mutualisation or partnership structure).
• An immediate increase in renumeration needed to maintain the network.
• The mental health of network needs to be urgently addressed.
• A new way of overseeing POL is imperative, as consecutive governments have been complicit in ignoring the horizon scandal.
@@user-gx5pl7ig3yand just to add, prosecute Paula vennells , CEO at the time for the Po and also others at the top in the post office and in Fujitsu… let’s see how they’d like prison food 😏
Agreed. But the only problem is that they'd be replaced by more members of the 'old guard' being given 'Grace and Favour' appointments. Corruption runs very deep when politicians & civil servants are involved.
@@chrislambert9435 are you a postmaster?
“Some are probably hard done by” absolutely disgusting
That might not help him when he comes up for trial
What a shame…hehe!
As an old comms officer I knew the head of Comms would have to be in it up to his ears. He’s excusing a corporate swindle and has no priority for treating people fairly and legally. I think he’s in breach of many things including his own professional code of conduct and should never get another job at that level. Or any level.
Exactly correct. At ANY level.
Novel way of Taylor resigning from his job 😬
novel way for Taylor to change his name and move house.
@@russellbertrand3242 He's taken down his LinkedIn account apparently.
@@russellbertrand3242house? there’s a house he’ll have to sell to pay his lawyer? That’s handy!
These Post Office execs need to be infront of the enquiry before they themselves are prosecuted for mass fraud against the subpostmaster and gross negligence in the employ of publicly owned business.
Totally agree, malfeasance in public office. They should be prosecuted 😮
Director of Communications? My, my. He's communicating through his arse. He's speaking in a club or nightclub if you hear the din in the background. Put this guy in front of the inquiry and see what he says then. What a disgusting chancer.
@@chrislambert9435
God knows where the money went? It actually all went into a suspense account, and then sat there for three years before being credited to Post Office profit and loss account as additional profit.
Mr Taylor should be dismissed with immediate effect.
The post office leaders all should go, why are they still there
It's time people were held to account for this it an outrage
How can somebody be so INHUMANE? and some people are saying these people should not be prosecuted because of revenge reasons?, in this case I thinks is absolutely warranted!. He should be jailed and the key thrown away!
Some people in the world are just evil. This scandal has shone a light on some of them.
I can kind of see the point with the "revenge reasons" note, if serious charges were brought up (and noting the audio recording) I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way to hold those under them more responsible...
They have expensive lawyers who can get them off, and they know that.
@@alfbridge8677those lawyers are paid for by the post office.....which means OUR taxes!
There may well have been people who stole money and were rightfully convicted for theft, but the point is the absolute scandal that the the Post Office KNOWINGLY ruined many peoples lives and even sent some to prison KNOWING they were innocent, and then even lied and tried to cover it up and do everything possible to keep up the nonsense. Every single one of those people involved in the cover up need to spend the same amount of time behind bars that all the innocent people involved did. Add all the days together and let each and everyone do that amount of time themselves.
@@chrislambert9435 Your post is boring and very, very repetitive. You also fail to understand the basic principle of British justice that guilt has to be proved.
Somebody take hold of this man and explain to him that they were not real losses. The computer was showing money missing that didn't exist in the first place. People were bullied and intimidated into 'paying back' money that was never lost. Their hard earned money, savings, family money, swallowed up and to add insult to injury, because there was no 'missing money' hole to be filled, the money taken from them went into profits! Keep telling him, and all his cronies, until they understand. Oh, and sack the buggers as well.
Well said👍
Richard Taylor should fired immediately for gross mishandling gross misconduct and gross stupidity
How dare the media support VICTIMS , he also does not understand the premise INNOCENT UNTILL PROVED GUILTY what a muppet he is.And that is me being polite.
Almost No-one in Post Office or Royal Mail management at any level believes in that basic concept, in fact it's the reverse, Guilty until YOU prove YOURSELF to be 100% innocent; there's a "loophole" in employment law that states management of a given firm only has to establish (in their own "professional" opinion) "reasonable suspicion" to dismiss an employee, and the onus is on the employee to prove his / her / their innocence, so if one's face "no longer fits", you're f***ed; now it is different for criminal proceedings to commence of course, but this scandal has shown that it doesn't have to be exactly massively different, effectively the onus or burden of proof is more strongly on the accused; I sincerely hope many heads roll as a result of this, let these people see what it's like "the other way around"
Come on Blabber, this report is a sensationalist report, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
Richard Taylor - Group Corporate Affairs, Communications & Brand Director. Fancy title, well qualified. A complete and utter waste of space who should be dismissed for Gross Misconduct.
A well-run company ought not to need a 'brand director'.
Caught with his trousers down, Nick revealed that the recording took place a few months into his involvement, suggesting a deep investment in the overturned convictions case. Positioned as a reformer, tasked with sweeping away outdated approaches, he was supposed to address systemic issues rather than scapegoating postmasters and mistresses as thieves.
The smoking gun exposing a blatant disregard for innocent lives as collateral damage. Despite the post office's rigorous vetting process for honorable figures in the community, the casual portrayal of these individuals as dishonest is not only ignorant but also disgusting and arrogant. This perspective, reducing the role to acquiring a counter, a red sign, some scales, and cash, undermines the extensive effort involved and reflects a lack of understanding and appreciation for the responsibilities tied to the position.
In the end, it paints a stark picture of a system gone awry, where the pursuit of justice is compromised, and the vital role of postmasters and mistresses is unjustly belittled.
Succinct and excellent post
The people on " the shop floor " have always been belittled by management and even office staff.
I am a time-served printer with 30 years experience, an office
"Paper shuffler " called me a menial worker in a meeting with management. I pointed out that I was a value adder and he was a value subtractor.
That shut him down!
Was he in a bar after a few shandys? Very revealing of the senior executives mindset and attitude towards the sub-post masters .
Why not ? This report is a sensationalist report, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
Going for a drink after work is pretty normal behavior at any pay grade. I don't think that's the problem here.
So now that these convictions have proven to be illegal the perpetrators of the real crime need to see the inside of a jail cell. Oh, and by the way, their salaries and bonuses must be clawed back by the asset forfeiture unit.
In any privately run business, this twerp would be suspended with immediate effect and then fired for bringing the organisation into disrepute. The problem is that in this situation it isn't a privately run business, it's a cosy public sector 'care home for morally deficient and inept managers', and the Post Office brand has already been so comprehensively destroyed by its managers that in the private sector it would be regarded as a liability rather than an asset.
"101: How to drag your company reputation further into the mud ?" by Richard Taylor Snr executive director of Post Office
This report is a sensationalist report, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
@@chrislambert9435 Are you Paula Vennells in disguise?
@@theresearcher253 No, Iam not. More matter,less Art
@@chrislambert9435 What do you know about art?
I look forward to reading he has started his first day in prison and will remain there for at least 20 years. And no pension.
Where did the money go,how much in total and why is not traceable.
if you visit the post office scandal blog a podcast is avialable exploring the missing money
The money went into post office suspense account!!
The money never existed - the software generated erroneous transactions that appeared to show the post office branch should have had more cash than it actually did.
I think it confirms the Post Office management attitude towards sub postmasters. That they started from a point of guilty before looking at any evidence.
The first thing the Post Office should do is pay back the money THEY stole from the postmasters, with interest at the going rates, per year until the day they pay it back. Then compensation can be sorted out later, but a deadline of say 6 months should be set.
Fujitsu should be liable for most of the legal costs over the decades I would have thought as they knew the truth all along.
It seems all political parties are guilty of not sorting things out and cover-ups which says all we need to know about our political system!
The Post Office knew the Horizon system was faulty even before it was purchased. They did not want it but it was forced on them by Tony Blair who wanted Japanese investment to save British jobs at ICL. The it was so faulty that it failed acceptance tests so the PO had to relax those tests to allow the system to be accepted and rolled out.
To my mind the main fault lies with the PO for persecuting and prosecuting the subpostmasters without any evidence rather than trying to identify and correct the source of the problems.
Holly crap the recording 😮😢 You can’t polish a turd but I think he’s about to be sand blasted.
Definitely not public money. The management of the PO should foot the entire compensation bill and if they can’t/won’t pay they should be forced to bankrupt themselves and go to prison.
The biggest fear is that an excuse will be made, like the 2008/2009 bank crash - they are too big to fail. The executives/managers will find a scapegoat or two, and keep their pay and bonuses, quietly move on and get paid to do work elsewhere.
bang on there..."no case to answer" or "not enough men to investigate" or "we don't know who was really responsible".....
Do a Mooney, This report is a sensationalist report, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
You are absolutely right in that analysis, the government will find a way to obfuscate the whole matter and not one person will face jail time. The reason being that if a precedent is set whereby senior management, directors and even government ministers can go to prison for this scandal then they too can have a light shined on their activities!
When this is all done if there isn't a wholesale review of the relationship between the current power structures and the majority, the people, i fear we will have learned nothing (AGAIN) and will be back on the rinse and repeat cycle that never really cleans anything. If we don't Im not sure which straw it will be that breaks the camels back. The camel is old and is clearly no longer fit for purpose, it will be less painful to us all to retire it before we end up having to drag its stinking carcass along with those that thrived and profited on its arthritic back and dump them all into the sea.
Head of Communications 😂😂😂😂😂. More like head of denial, he should be long gone!
Is Richard Taylor just taking the mick ? He can’t be just stupid, surely ? If neither of these applies, then he is even now trying to justify the post office’s appalling behaviour over its handling of its business perpetrated by those at the upper echelons of the organisation ? Criminal proceedings MUST follow…
He can't be stupid, he's just a twisted and callous person
How much money actually "went missing" anyway? It probably doesn't even come close to the salaries of these execs. That's the real crime.
Money obviously disappeared into someone's Government pocket.
Post office suspense account
@@mukeshjobanputra6721 And then into the PO main account and then in part to the director's bonuses - or so we heard in the Select Committee yesterday
I was a sub postmaster for 9 years between 2006 and 2015. I saw so much wast by post office management.
We would get delivered box loads of new brochures on products and huge glossy poster to put out for public display. After a week we would get a message to not put them on display because of a print error and wait for replacements and destroy the misprinted ones.
My small branch would regularly dispose of around a hundred brochures.
The cost of all these regular mistakes nation wide must have been in the hundreds of thousands.
No wonder they needed to recover money from subpostmasters to show some profit for their bonuses.
@@chrislambert9435
Hello Mr Bradshaw
Did you ever have to cover Horizon generated shortfalls with your own money? If so have you put in a claim for it to be returned?
@@ditch3827
Yes quite often. Though in my case it was small amounts between £5-£30 over a month period. I didn't put a claim in, just couldn't be bothered because of the small amounts involved.
I voluntarily gave up my Post Office franchise when the post office wanted to move subpostmasters onto a new contract that left subpostmasters worse off. I took the option of a pay off.
The sad story is the , the new subpostmaster started experiencing large shortages almost immediately and was closed and charged within a year. They repaid £40k in shortfalls and were part of the Allan Bates v Post Office litigation.
@@ditch3827
Regularly, anything between £5 to £100 per month. No never put a claim in because of the small amounts involved. Luckily managed to leave without losing large sums like the postmasters charged.
Unfortunately the subpostmaster who took over lost £40k. Was dismissed and forced to pay back the sum. They were one of the claimants in the Alan Bates case.
All that missing "money" went somewhere! So the "Post Office" must have sent less physical funds than declared to those postmasters OR the ". Post Office" must delared less money than actually received. Ultimately the person in charge of the "Post Office" is responsible for the missing funds. So they should be prosecuted! Any business dealing in the movement of funds ultimately has accountants to check the "books", they to should be investigated. Because those post masters were ultimately victims of fraud carried out by the Post Office and their employees.
The money didn't exist. The computer effectively invented it so it wasn't 'missing'. The only real money involved was that stolen from those accused, who had to 'pay back' non-existent losses. Their money became surplus funds which went into PO profits. Then the bosses and investigators got bonuses! 🤬
Richard Taylor continues to offer excellent journalism. These recordings need to reach as wide an audience as possible. We all need to understand just how rotten many organisations, which we are forced to pay for, actually are.
I think you mean Nick Wallis..
my heart went out these people. they deserve to be generously compensated for this injustice.
Just . . . Wow!
Who the hell do they think they are god .its unbelievable let’s hope this man see the inside of a cell for a good few years.
He genuinely thinks that they have had a partial success! The sad fact is, that if a lie is told often enough, it becomes the truth. Sadly, there will be people listening to this, saying I told you Doreen, there is no smoke without fire! I learned decades ago, if you have a snake pinned to the ground, do not have thoughts of mercy. Keep twisting your sword until it is dead. It does not make you as bad as them. It has to be done.
It is better that one guilty man walks free than to imprison one innocent man. That way the whole judicial system fails to be trusted.
I agree, but the problem with that is , there are many guilty people walking free every day.
@@mickee8025 Are there? How do you know this?
Why does the post office need a ¨director of communications¨? What does he do? Clearly communicating is not his core skill!! Sack him immediately, if not sooner!
There aren’t enough examples of how the system failed being reported.
Here is an example.
A customer went into one post office and withdrew £100 from his bank
The postmaster gives him the £100 cash. The horizon system has a connection fail and it doesn’t show that £100 has been taken from the customers bank account. So now the postmaster is £100 down. He knew the customer so he checks with him to see if the £100 has left his bank account and it has. The customer doesn’t want to give the £100 back obviously. The postmaster has to replace the £100 or prove it was the system that messed up. That’s just one example of how horizon failed.
The money got lost in the post !!!!!
Arrogant! Put him in prison!
He can be the first one they sling in jail.
Lock him up.
Who knows where the money went he says! I thought that information may be a bit important when having people charged and imprisoned. They are all of the same dirt on your shoe ilk these corporate immoral failures.
It went into the POnprofits which mean the to-dogs got huge bonuses and a CBE. PO was failing. With the stolen funds swelling the coffers it overturned the fortunes=snand the top dogs were rewarded . HUGE bonuses. Millions. And that’s where the money should come from to pay them back. And Fujitsu too of course for their crap product and their lies and connivance with the PO.
Might be worth polishing CV ….
just reflects the culture at the heart of the insidious business that is the Post Office Ltd
If I were the chief of Police, I'd offer limited immunity to the first 3 PO execs to come forward with the whole truth, so the rest of them can all go to jail for a long time.
their disconnect from reality beggars belief.
It seems to be completely incriminating evidence.
as i've said elsewhere
any private prosecution brought by the post office is now tainted. All victims must be exonerated, guilty or not. Pre horizon or not.
POs prosecution methods are unreliable.
Once this organisation is demonstrated to be untrustworthy/corrupt its private prosecutions must be overturned. NO ifs or buts.
It's 'fruit of the poisoned tree'. An apposite legal maxim.
Inherently the Horizon system is unreliable making it impossible to balance the books.
This man should be in prison.
We ahould be looking at the culprits
Taylor is a Communications Manager? So not an actual lawyer, judge, investigator, IT expert, forensic auditor, or anything actually requiring technical knowledge. So maybe he better shut his trap?
When Taylor talks about how postmasters must have 'borrowed' the money and not put it back, it makes you wonder what he would do if put in a similar position considering he's able to come to these sorts of judgements. How often do we judge others according to how we would act, thinking that everyone thinks the same way we do?
This is the truth, he's crooked so he thinks everyone else is crooked.
@@johnharrison154 Yes, you said it more simply than me.
Despicable
at the beginning of the 2 decade war on Iran, which was supposed to be Afghanistan, 11 BILLION was put on a ship and sent to Iran 'for military purposes' but was not on the ship when it arrived. It too, 'went missing' with no explanation. Just disappeared, and nothing atcall was done to recover it. A friend who writes war novels was turned down by his publisher when he proposed a book on the subject. Not a wonder why America is so unaffordable when taxpayers are forced to pay it back.
If I had tsken 11 billion you can bet the Feds and every other govt. entity would have me imprisoned by days end. Its been 23 years and most Americans know nothing about it
I like his attitude- "Sure, our buggy computer system created phantom losses that sent some people to prison, but the rest of them did steal the money!"
So-called "missing" money. - if the computer software duplicates transactions for example, say someone pays in £500, and the software generates one correct transaction and another erroneous transaction, it looks like there should be £1000 in the till, but there's only £500. The Post Office then accuses the SPM of "stealing" the missing £500, but in fact it never existed.
Before Horizon system went live around 5 prosecutions a year, after Horizon it increased to around 60. The comments by Richard Taylor illustrates a deep rooted culture within the Post Office of deflecting and blaming others for their and suppliers failures. This will require a fundamental change in leadership within the Post Office and there had to be people at a more senior level (past and present) that knew Horizon had issues, that they prosecuted people with less than robust evidence, who misled Postmasters, lawyers, courts, MP's and Parliament and they need to be prosecuted for perverting justice.
Richard Taylor's comments confirm he believes there are dishonest Postmasters and in any walk of life that may be true. He should look round at the Management in the Post Office (past and present) and know for certainty dishonesty exists. Shame he doesn't hold himself and his colleagues to the same high standards he expected from Postmasters !
The public and press are watching, and should there not be prosecutions of Post Office management (past and present) and potentially suppliers this matter will be brought to the public's attention again. Handing back a CBE doesn't even scratch the surface.
They have no remorse disgusting
Defies belief! Disgusting!
Spot the brain cells this guy is so clueless and just towing the party line. I wonder how he would do in jail if he was innocent.
Now I know why we have the C word. Certainly applies to him.
Time to retitle these corporate weasels: Director of Obfuscation would surely be more accurate
Did the money go to the same place as Johnson's and Sunak's text messages?.
i work at a cash n carry NO POST OFFICES use C & C they buy sweets from the post office who have a deal with manufacturers & stationary stamps etc is from wholesalers
This is why every single good person in the world should secretly record every day they have at work and keep any recordings that reveal misconduct and lies by their colleagues. In fact companies should be prevented from claiming misconduct against anyone who covertly records at work. If you haven't done anything wrong what have you got to worry about, as some of us are told.
He needs adding to the “to do list” for resignation and further investigation.
Richard Taylor, must go.
I would check his finances. Judging others by your own standards.
Bad Moon RIsing playing in the background is perfect.
People keep asking how this could happen. Well this is a prime example of someone from the management class. There are thousands of people like this who are 'running' things like the NHS, the civil service and of course, the PO. They look down on people on the front line as 'less thans', even though they may have decades of experience. But what they dont have is a degree in *insert meaningless subject*. This then creates a divide leading to resentment and mistrust. Thats how this happens. Its still happening and it will continue to. When it takes an ITV drama to change policy and law it may be time to change things. Sorry for the rant.
Its not just the degrees. It's like getting to high level management does something to their brain. In previous employment there was a director who started working there in the lowest paid position and worked his way up to director level over many years. The way he responded to there concerns over things like worker rights etc, you would never believed he would have done the same job. Until someone told me about his background I thought the same, that he went to management from university.
Nothing to be sorry for. This is an astonishing case of "who cares" from what was once a trusted organisation. Post Office : clear out the deadwood, pay up now and listen.
Nothing to be sorry for. This is an astonishing case of "who cares" from what was once a trusted organisation. Post Office : clear out the dead wood, pay up now and listen.
Stop making it up Bro, This report is a sensationalist report, People were nicking cash out of the Till and blaming the Horizon computer system, when these accused Post Masters were asked questions about this they denied everything but then agreed to "pay back" the cash, even after they gave the cash back, the Post office still proceeded to take them to Court, many of the accused "pleaded guilty" What should Mr Stephen Bradshaw think ? except Oh w'ave done a good job ! ! By the way they asked Mr Bradshaw did He have any feeling about certain people & cases, He should have said; did the Judge have a feeling because its the Judge that jailed them ? ? not me ! !
What wacko . I hope he receives some due justice.
He'd almost have a point that some of the postmasters genuinely could have stolen some money, it's certainly plausible. But we'll never know now will we, because he and his people messed up so enormously.
But what we do know for sure from the Public Enquiry is that the Post Office did steal money from the postmasters and have yet to return it or be prosecuted.
Pity the PO don't get lost.
Oh dear......do not pass go.......go straight to jail.
The question is where is the money that was stolen or supposed to be swindled by post master? Where is it?
Can this happen in our uk banking system?
Sack him now, and possibly all the directors and senior managers. The Post Office has a toxic senior management culture and they simply have neither the moral compass nor professional standards required.
The government must clear out the entire organisation and start from scratch. Hire a new, professional, and qualified team to go through the organisation's governance, processes and practices.
It's not just broken, but entirely trashed as an operating concern.
Yep well every accusation is likely a confession from those people good indication of what they’d like to do given the opportunity
How the Post Office has charged people using Horizon makes me question pre-Horizon convictions. And if there will be the odd person who is guilty gets falsely exonerated and wrongly compensated, the Post Office, Futitsu and the government only have themselves to blame.
There are many people who need to be left unemployed and unemployable at the end of this and I don't mean the postmasters.
Don’t worry - I’m sure he’ll be a Knight of the Realm soon though
Prison wouldnt even touch the surface of this Director of communications.
Community service, a large fine,banned as a director or public enoloyee, withdrawal of NHS services.
Whar is puzzling me is that the Post Office is by any description a financial institution. Any other financial institution offering similar services would be regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority or its predecessor the FSA. As such the individual post masters would have had recourse to the Financial Obudsman which would have acted on their behalf to hold the PO to account and to prove their case.
It seems to me, as in many other State Owned businesses and services ( NHS, HMRC) they are largely a law unto themselves acting as judge, jury and executioner.
72/23, 72 being those that the post office are still making life a living nightmare.
All they had to do was spend a week behind a PO counter and it would have been solved. But - why do what when you can blame the sub Post masters and get given a bonus for each one you convict and force them to give the PO imaginary debt?
Where is the report from the forensic accountants????
Why did this programme not try and speak to richard taylor i would have loved to hear what he said