What Was The Satanic Panic? | Justin Sledge
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- What Was The Satanic Panic? | Justin Sledge
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The Satanic panic is a moral panic consisting of over 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic rituals starting in the United States in the 1980s, spreading throughout many parts of the world by the late 1990s, and persisting today.
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When I was a teenager my Aunt insisted that she could "hear the devil" in my ACDC and Black Sabbath music. Nope, Auntie, thats not Satan, thats bass guitar 😂
to be fair, Sabbath and AC/DC were both TRYING to sound (and probably more importantly, to LOOK, with album covers, t-shirts, posters, etc) like they came direct from Satan- That infamy and "scary" factor were the best marketting tool they ever had (apart from people like Iommi, Butler, and Angus Young being incredible musicians, obv). I'm pretty sure that BOTH those (absolutely legendary) bands have had giant "Satan" props, as part of their touring live show, at one time or other.
Ozzy and Bon Scott were both pretty open about deliberaqtely acting outrageous, including seeming "Satanic", because the fans loved it, and BECAUSE controversy sold records.
Having lived through it I can tell you those years were very intense. It was for me the beginning of the end for me in the church because I found I could no longer trust what I believed, Nearly everything was perceived as demonic or Satanic, especially in the charismatic churches I was involved in at the time.
I was born in 1963. I remember the early 80's Satanic Panic quite well. I burned dozens of great rock albums while I was temporarily caught up in the insane Armageddon Antichrist wackadoodle crap. Ugh.
Sorry to hear that
Great show, Derek! You are exorcising my middle school demons! ❤️
The Satanic Panic sparked the curiosity in me to buy my first Ozzy Osbourne album (Tribute). I learned these fundy yahoos weren't even reading the lyrics.
The ace of Spades is the ultimate heavy metal song.Lemmy a legend
Once you open the woo gate, anything goes. You can see that we are still not out of the Dark Ages.
Justin Sledge is brilliant.
Dr. Sledge is awesome! Always very educational and entertaining to listen to
Justin has amazing lectures about antique Thora philosophy and esoteric myths!
Can’t believe I never watched this one! Justin is hands-down one of my favorite people on the planet. Im so proud of what he has been able to accomplish and for overcoming the significant challenges he experienced when he was younger. As a grown up misfit and goth/raver kid who grew up in a conservative, rural midwestern town and spent many hours in the library after school with my face buried in obscure books about the Western Mystery Tradition, I feel like his experience easily could have been mine, and I empathize with him deeply. The good his work on Esoterica does, as well as your work here on MV, is incalculable and extremely important. Misinformation and conspiracy theories/mass delusions run rampant and spread faster than ever in our hyper-connected, always-online society, and often these narratives dominate in part because they simply fill an information vacuum in the space, and educating the public is the best way to combat it and prevent future moral panics in society.
Anton LaVey was much more PT Barnum than he was dracula.
Love Dr. Sledge so much. Thanks for hosting so many quality scholars!!!!
This was a great discussion. Dr. Sledge is great at making this dense material understandable to people with just pop culture knowledge
I love Dr. Sledge and I love this topic. Thanks for bringing this all together
When we refer to "satanic panic" as a moral panic, we are saying they were justified. It wasn't a moral panic it was victimization of people thought to be outside societal norms.
Notice how no one was playing Leo Sayer records backwards.. Just Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Ozzy Osbourne...
The Betty and Barney Hill abduction case is intriguing though.
I never attempted this; because, I didn't want to scratch up my 'Masters of Reality' album.
I watch Justin's "Satanic Panic" episode on Esoterica. I remember being "invited" to the local Pentecostal Church only to called up to have the pastor attempt to cast demons out of me. Because I listened to heavy metal music I guess
As far as back masking, Ozzy has trouble remembering his lyrics forwards let alone backwards. I grew up in 1970's I agree about "Black Sabbath". LSD Lucifer, Satan, Devil
Black Sabbath got its name from a 1930s Karloff/Lugosi Universal movie. Because Geezer Butler loved classic monster movies. It really is that simple.
"Hotel California by the Beatles..." Hehe
The Eagles. Sorry, can't help it.
Yup I remember the Satanic Panic back in the 80’s when I was still a Christian and that stuff was nuts! For example I had bought my 2 girl’s each an original Cabbage Patch doll when they first came out for Xmas and all I kept hearing at my church from EXTREME fanatic’s was that Cabbage Patch dolls were possessed by demons! I was told to burn the doll’s and cast the demons out of my 2 young daughters and cast them out of my house! Of course I did no such thing but that stuff was complete insanity for a lot of people. My oldest son was an avid D & D player and he was all Goth…he was a Metal head, wasn’t a serial killer, he didn’t eat babies, and never believed in the Satan nonsense…he was a great kid!
Great video…Thanks Derek and Dr. Sledge.
I was lucky enough to be around normal folk during this time, but I did have one friend whose Mom was absolutely CONVINCED that her parakeet "Mr. T" was a "barometer" of when Satan's influence was in the room. So my friend could in other words not openly listen to rock music that made the bird squawk. We of course both saw the bird freak out for unknown reasons while Christian music was gracing the dining room.
Great interview, really loving Dr. Sledge's interviews. I wasn't allowed to play DnD growing up and we weren't even a religious family.😅 And the best heavy metal is TOOL.
The fact that rock stars were put on trial for alleged claims about their musical content reminds me of the petition to get Congress to investigate Cuties (the little women in French) and to this day I still wonder how many people have seen the French film and like there's only one video review For Harriet that actually saw the film and gave a review of bullying and the affects of social media on young girls everyone else who reviews the film talks about things that never happened in the film and it was on those claims that people asked Congress to review Cuties the film director and Netflix.
29:00 Ozzie Osborne did put backwards talking in his songs - didn’t he? One song was about an alcoholic friend of his who committed suicide. That is what the trial was about. The “message” was there. The point was that a song “suicide soliton” should not be held as a cause for a teenager dying.
Was just inspired to look up Iron Maiden's 'number of the beast' ... the second vinyl single i ever bought. I'd forgotten how good that 1st guitar solo was .. epic!
- Didn't turn me into a satanist though but did inspire me to play guitar so something good came out of it.
The 'Number of the Beast' album, is about the application of it; not the process of it... It's more of a prophetic album than Satanic.
@@joykeebler1916 application/process of what exactly?
Of the impositions of religious fascism.
They were impressed with - that if the number of the beast were to come - it would be a religious number.
@@joykeebler1916 I never thought that iron maiden were actually satanic .. just rockers. It's just a persona .. like dressing up and being dark and edgy, like so many bands/groups.
I have that same red flannel shirt!
It's similar to the witch hunt trials
I would say it began in the 70's not 80's
All this was going on while catholic priest were buggering children with impunity and their superiors were covering it up, the irony isn't lost on me.
Yes, this was why I left fundamentalist churches, because this looked to me like so much medieval bs.This is 20th Century, now 21st Century.
How great of a name is Doctor Sledge?
I remember reading Michelle Remembers when I was a kid in the '80s. I thought it was fiction when I read it.
It was stated; if you played a Black Sabbath album at 72-speed, that you would hear the voice of God - this was back in the early 1980's.
The video is too long as a reference to debunking social-cultural hysteria that our society is still subject to. I, sadly, have relatives who, at least partially, buy into the Q nonsense.
More people need to see this can you and Justin create a shortened version that might hook believers of nonsense into watching. People need to see this, seriously, before the world self-destructs.
Justin is spot on all Metal begins with Black Sabbath
Honorable mention check out Ningen Isu Japanese Metal, totally awesome
Hahaha yes! My dad tore off my Kiss poster in 1980 because he heard Kiss stood for, “knights in satans service”. I saw wives dumping out their boxes of Tide because the Procter and gamble symbols was satanic. I turned all of my records backwards and only one had back masking on it. The Beatles while album. It was not satanic it was a car accident and someone yelling “Paul’s dead”.
There was no internet all this garbage spread via gossip. I remember thinking, “isn’t God more powerful than satan? How is backwards music lyrics going to over power my prayers and get me to sacrifice goats to satan”? Haha, it was so real to people back then. Now Ozzy had a tv show…..
I hope to never hear about the Australian Jesus again
So weird it’s all bogus yet some one was just arrested and the case reopened in the SSA case that started it all funny that
Remphan Panic
Derek you are gorgeous!
Omg.. Derek.. You had to say Slipknot.. and Mudvayne.. That made me cringe.. I knew whatever your answer would be.. Would likely make me cringe. Justin.. Don't call it "cookie monster" music. Yeah Ok.. Justin gets half a point for mentioning Wolves in the throne room.. Ok.. That's valid.. You can have half a point for that and being legit on Black metal.. And Black Sabbath. Rolls eyes and Sighs.. Hotel California.. By the Beatles?
@ Bradly B I usually Don't read the "live" chat as I find it feeble and nothing has changed on that. I just find it very nerdy and off putting.. But/And.. This time I got distracted by it.. By some inferior comments made by Bradly B.. Who Isn't the brightest spark. In regard of the conversation with Derek.. Interesting so far(Lost interest at the 36 minute mark). Back to what I was about to convey. Bradly B.. "Heavy Metal came and gone".. "Not a cultural phenomenon". Do you have half a Clue what you are talking about? No.. No you Don't. Then you go onto say about the Beatles and Elvis.. What you should have said was.. They were your preference now. You are completely Off. Heavy Metal is alive and well.. Maybe to you and your closed minded world that you live in you choose not to listen to Metal.. But I will tell you.. Heavy Metal is a cultural phenomenon and Heavy Metal is alive and well.. And I am a proud Metal head. I ask myself why I'm even wasting my time typing this out when Bradly B will likely never see this comment as he is probably one of those hit and run people.. Meaning? He joins chat for 30 minutes.. Makes a few comments.. Never logs in again and will never bother to read this comments section.
18 minutes I'm starting to get images or ideas of what might have happened during the witch trials back in the middle ages
I’m old enough to remember that. Some of the claims seemed possible, it others were way off the deep end. At that point I just ignored the whole thing.
Just recently Kanye West decided to show his Christian love by taking out his anger on Jews. Anti-Semitism is alive and flourishing in the religious right-wing.
I guess that's simultaneous with all the Zionism going on in the same.
Also great video!
Movies like "The Exorcist" and "The Omen" in the 70s also started the Satanic Panic. These movies popularised the idea of demon possessions and number 666 and the Antichrist and all that kind of stuff.
Stranger Danger, Root's
dr sledge-hammer, excellent conversation.
The headline will never see: "radical agnostic suicide bomber attacks escalate". Learn to say when you don't know.
Lie detector test are also bunk to.
I live next door to SRA abusers I hear and see things that are too much ,its not funny its sick and making jokes is vile, the police cannot act for some reason, these people do not listen to music, they are far too busy.
@@sharoncooke4010They're in all levels of society. People you wouldn't expect. Even police themselves.
Bro Geraldo should help Alex Jones out with his billion dollar bills.
How did his trial turn out? How much does he owe?
@@JaceDeanLove almost a billion.
He wrote a will and wrote about murder before doing it and that's not evidence? What is considered evidence if that is considered no evidence was ever found?
Please tell me that this guy was compensated for this insane arrest!
He wasn't. They still suspected him afterwards. The Judge said he hopes he isn't like Hannibal Lecter, and the DA said what worries him is that Justin was way closer to the shooter than he let on and that he was manipulative. Pearl High School Shooting on wikipedia
Men like this are a good reason to love the Jews.
33:50 Ok, so Derek is great at textual analysis, interviewing, and editting... but sorry, he has terrrrrrrrible taste in music. Even 80's Hairspray-metal like RATT and Cindarella weren't as god-awful as the 90's "nu-metal" thing. Please Derek, tell us you're not a jugallo!?!