Applauded Zoya when she brought up her meetings and environment in cockpit. How many flights have ended in disaster because a co-pilot was scared or intimidated to speak up about bad practices. Too many pilots have been flying when they were a danger because no one had the confidence to speak up as a safe environment & culture wasn’t encouraged.
Definitely, this has been a major factor in aerospace disasters, NASA labelled it as "Group-think", and it's very dangerous to assume things and not speak up.
Yeah, another fact that I recently found out about, is that you don't have the same crew onboard on all flights... captain-first officer crews combinations constantly change so you have to build up trust and self-trust within two flights
The biggest air disaster in history can be in part tied to this. The pilot basically overrode his flight crew and they didn't object because he was so well respected and had basically trained half their airline.
I love the unbridled savagery of her reviews. "This is wild and enjoyable -10" Fun and realistic very rarely coexist and she just murders these clips, glorious. :)
While that first example was based on a real flight, the actual conditions were utterly terrifying and when they got upside down it was unrecoverable sadly.
@@ItsBigZoo because the idea was taken from the real event, but it was taken to ridiculous Hollywood drama levels... f.e. the inverted flight from Flight, happened at much higher altitude and the pilots only took it as a last resort, they managed to keep the airplane airborne for some time until a solution was found, but in the end the plane crashed like a rock from the sky and everybody on board died
She has to be the harshest scenario critic of the entire series! But she was very knowledgeable and what a wonderful smile! She reminds me of my mom, a small batterie packed with the energy of a nuclear plant! 😅
@@ericfellner2689 Compared to the other experts she was! Harsh criticism ain't necessarily a bad thing if it's justified, which was in her case as you pointed out so well about how much most of these were indeed bonkers! She explained very well that criticism which made it a very precious knowledge for future filmmakers that would want to make such themed movies.
Many of these Hollywood scenes are supposed to be extraordinary events. Sure under normal circumstances it doesn't happen. Under normal circumstances you don't take off unless you have absolute certainty of all safety requirements, but none of them were supposed to be normal circumstances! Not to mention there would be tremendous mental pressure during such events, ie gun pointed to head, or passengers lives are already at stake anyway if she doesn't take off or land etc. etc.. She's missing a bit of the point here, looking only from a normal circumstance point of view. She is very knowledgeable and experienced though.
Wow, she was great! I love how she had clearly thought about the disasters shown beforehand and figured out how she personally would have addressed it.
What a cool human ! I’d feel so safe with her as a pilot hearing the constant emphasis she puts of protecting the lives of her passengers, ik it’s a given but it’s v reassuring to hear . sending love to her and all ppl in positions of responsibility that operate like this !💖
1:27 last I heard flight attendants being in a cockpit, they were holding the pilot who was half ejected out the window while the first officer quickly landed the plane by himself. Which is not easy as the settings take two people to do.
british airways yep captian got partially sucked out 3 flight attendants held the captian in place while the copilot had to fly solo to an airport he didnt know without charts entirely by instinct and what the controllers told him. dude broke down as soon as they landed
Props for knowing about the Alaska Airlines flight 261 incident! The jackscrew in the mechanism that controls the horizontal stabilizer got stripped due to poor maintenance, jamming the stabilizer in the nose down position. Since the pilot was unable to change that, inverting the plane to reverse the stabilizer action was his only course of action. The handbook didn't cover a fully jammed stabilizer, but I'm sure they read that before trying this. Unfortunately, they were unable to make a water landing in the Pacific inverted.
There was a video like that with a Smithsonian Air & Space Museum curator, who contextualized the spacesuits in terms of the years the movies were from, which was pretty cool.
In regards to takeoff performance I remember a case where 747 was taking off and the captain noticed a poor climb rate, he went back to the airport. What has happened, the night before they cleaned carpets inside without drying them, the amount of water was enough to ground aircraft.
@@Lumeniaellina unusual take off conditions are a cause for immediate grounding. The pilot can't know without investigation why the plane is failing to climb at the right rate, it could be thrust output (or in an extreme case) something physically interfering with the wing. There was a flight in Kazakhstan (Bek Air Flight 2100) which resulted in the plane crashing due to ice forming on the leading edge of the wing. The plane actually had two tail strikes attempting to take off, and multiple people got injured slipping on the ice when they evacuated over the wing.
1:49 Correctly states that the movie was based on Alaska Airlines flight 261. *Editor shows a picture of a 737 in connection to that flight, which is not even close.*
You guys should have gotten Mentour Pilot to do these. On his UA-cam channel, he covers all sorts of real life aviation incidents and disasters and even uses the final reports when available to help explain everything.
Surprising the film that started the entire "Disaster" genre wasn't here... Airport 1970. Would like to see Zoya review the climactic scene where Global 2 is on its Precision Radar Approach to Lincoln Runway 29.
One of the best reviewers on this series. Definitely the hardest judge on fiction. I appreciate her bringing up the importance of crew resource management and use of the QRH instead of pilots trying to hotdog everything and closing their eyes while landing.
It should be said on the first one that there have been incidents where the situation deteriorated so fast that there was NO TIME to go through the quick reference handbook.
I saw something once (I think it was like a National Geographic documentary, but can't remember for sure) where unfortunately all pilots and co-pilots ate the same thing for dinner (I think it was fish or something like that) which turned out to be highly contaminated and it was quite scary and touch and go for a while. It was unsettling for the passengers when they saw all three pilots out cold. Luckily there was a passenger who was a former pilot from the war onboard that used to fly smaller planes but somehow he managed to put it down relatively safely with help from the tower and stewardess, with no real injuries. It was only due to the stoicism and bravery of the passengers and crew that they survived, but it gives great insight as to all the issues that can arise from airplane disasters and the best way to conduct oneself in that scenario.
In the Snakes movie: immediately following Mayday MUST BE the flight number so that the ATC knows which plane has declared the emergency. It has several/many planes in the sector and it can be anyone. Declaring mayday and describing the cirumstances without identification is counterproductive.
For the Sichuan 8633 (The second one) no cabin crew member went to the cockpit. It’s just the CAAC (Civil Aviation Ministration of China) requires two captains and one first officer on all of their high altitude routes, in this case Lhasa. The “cabin crew member” was basically the second captain. He was only in the cabin before because he is responsible for the flight back, and can go to rest at cruise.
10:14 my biggest problem with that scene is the pilot not wearing oxygen mask. If even passengers are wearing it, surely the pilots would be wearing one, long before passengers get theirs.
There are actually a ton of crashes where the passengers in the cabin had their masks on but the pilots didn’t. The masks in the cabin and the cockpit deploy separately, and in some cases the pilots have to deploy their masks themselves rather than having them come down automatically. In that case, since hypoxia can be very subtle, pilots might not even realize they need the masks until it’s too late.
@@cockathiel5319 That's not how it works. Pilot oxygen masks are not even "dropped", not even "deployed". They are on the outboard sides of each pilot and can be donned in seconds, but are not automatic at all. There are checklists of when to use them. When the passenger masks have already automatically deployed, there will be decompression warnings in the cockpit, and the QRH would require them to don oxygen masks immediately.
As a bonified internet expert, who is a licensed commentator on areas out of my expertise: I can't entirely agree with the statement of this licensed pilot. Planes can hit birds and survive it. Planes engines are certified to ingest birds (small) and keep rolling. also there is many air incidents where planes literally lost parts of the fuselages or wing and survived.
A windshield broke and sucked out the co pilot? I already hate flying, now I gotta worry about cracked windshields?!?! “Show me something realistic” Proceeds to show snakes on a plane 😂
@@isthatrubble In the British case it wasn't a cracked windshield but the hole panel blew out because the ground crew used the wrong bolts that were to short.
To ease your tension a bit, the effects of explosive decompression are waaaaaaay overexxagerated in movies. People generally don't get sucked out when there's a small hole. To give you a real-life situation to look at for comparison. In 2018 there was a small leak on the ISS and an astronaut simply plugged it with his finger until his colleagues could fix it. And this was in space. Nothing blew out, and nobody got sucked through.
Ok I like her, very knowledgeable, cares about her profession and her passengers but her extreme “stick to the handbook” I don’t like too much cause yes in about 90% of cases can be solved with that handbook. But there are more than a few dozen events I can think of where they only survived cause they went against the handbook rather than following it. And in those cases it was cause the pilot knew their plane very well and knew what to do. So yes the handbook is good and saves lives but having a strict ideal to not “think outside the box” in an emergency could lead you to overlooking something it doesn’t cover or not think of something.
Some reports are that Alaska 261 was inverted before it crashed. When test flown for a promotional flight, the first 707 was flown upside down in a 1 G barrel roll. The 727 and 747SP were reputed to handle and be flown like fighter jets. Some anecdotes are that they could indeed be flown upside down for short periods of time. In dive like that, probably going through the QRH might seem as something one hasn't time for, I think the movie "Flight" was supposed basically show him as a crack pilot--such pilots are a thing and are noted for their ability to think outside the box. I believe such pilots are coveted for service as test pilots, who must fly planes not yet flown or tested whose handling, quirks, and faults are unknown. FedEx 705 was another plane that performed some serious acrobatics to foil a hijacker who intended to crash the plane. This was a DC10-30--a plane not noted for its acrobatic abilities at all. Even among airliners, it wasn't considered a terribly maneuverable plane. Another commercial plane to lose a cockpit window was British Airways 5390. A window was replaced, and the wrong sized screws were used. It blew out at altitude, sucking the pilot halfway out. Cabin crew had to hold him from being sucked out of the plane entirely. He survived.
Her attitude was a breath of fresh air. "It was complete garbage, -2000". All the men I've seen have been "It's complete garbage, but I like the actor's hair, so I'll give it a 5." GTFOH. Shame Zoya isn't an expert on more than just piloting. Could do with more of her expert evaluation.
I disagree with the assessment of the first clip. First, like you said, that was a real incident, for which there was no procedure in the QRH. Second, in regards to calling someone else into the cockpit to help, did happen, with the Sioux City crash where a third pilot as passenger was called in to work the throttles when they lost directional control. Third, sometimes when the situation is dire enough with minimal time, the QRH isn't as option as in this movie, or like in Sullie, where he turned on the APU right away, even though that wasn't part of the checklist. Sometimes, you have to use your gut and experience to make judgement calls and decisions that aren't in the QRH. To say you should do what's in the QRH and only that would likely have killed a lot of people had that advise been adhered to. At the end of the day, fly the plane and save the lives of everyone aboard.
Why did it take so long to find somebody that was thinking exactly what I was thinking. Even after she said it really happened, and she "respected the Captain's decision.", she says 0/10??? Had he "stuck to the handbook", everybody would have died. I wonder if she thinks she could have done a better job.
@@stacie7766 Whip Whitaker is a completely fictional character, as is every single person about the flight depicted in Flight (2012), as is the entire incident. She does not say "It really happened", she says "this is a real incident" in regards to the inverted flight, which was a real life maneuver that Flight took inspiration from. But it is in no way an adaptation of that incident.
The plane that had 3 engines, 1 on each wing and 1 in the tail, they did have a passenger come up to the cockpit to help them fly the aircraft in that emergency. The passenger happened to be an expert on that particular aircraft, but it has happened before.
He was not a passenger! Dennis Fitch was a training chek pilot. His job was literally to train and assess actions of regular pilots. More than that, after the catastrophe of JAL123 he went to the simulator to try and fly the plane with throttles only. By no means he could be called a cabin crew. And definitely he's not a pax.
@@CarbonGlassMan Yes, you're talking about the famous UA232. He WAS a passenger in a sense that he wasn't a part of the cockpit crew on that flight, but he WAS NOT a passenger in the sense that he wasn't paying for his trip. It's wasn't his private journey, he was being relocated to another training bace on that plane. He was summoned to the cabin because of his superior rank and superior expertise. It's not like it was his first time flying the plane, as we can see in that movie clip.
The only time I know of an extra person in the cockpit helping fly is United Flight 232, and that person moving the throttles was Check Captain Denny Fitch. The flight attendant who brought his offer for help up either escorted him or told him to head to the cockpit (1989, y'all) and went back to her job- preparing the cabin and passengers.
I don't like her explanation on the 2012 scene, bringing up the concorde incident doesn't make sense when there isn't a fuel tank above the landing gear on the AN225. The way she says "I would solve it from the flight deck", this is the AN225 which takes 6 people to fly, the fuel/hydraulic pumps can only be reached by the fuel/electrical engineer.
The point of these series is to get expert opinions on what is and is not feasible within movies. This requires taking their knowledge of how things physically work, and suspending a degree of disbelief regarding how they got in position. This woman can't extrapolate like that and it means that she'll see something like an arrogant captain paired with a silent first officer (which happens all the time) and give it a 2 because they should have done better. She's out here giving scores of -10 because people didn't do the appropriate pre-takeoff checklist ffs...
Yeah, this is unfortunately the typical Indian mindset. Extreme adherence to what you're taught with zero room/ability for critical thinking or imagination.
Though a lot of what she is saying applies, many things such as "you would never have a car near a runway" are disproved in day to day operations by airport vehicles such as patrol trucks and sometimes fire engines on practice routes. It also seems to me that she bases the intensity of reality not based on if it could happen but rather on if it happens in standard convention.
7:04 This was based on a real flight incident of Jet Airways 555. I'm surprised she wasn't aware of that. Also fun to look up the story of SpiceJet 256.
As a contractor employee, I can tell you I have been on the Apron and Taxiway of an AFB while the runway was active. I even drove near a bomber because the gate we were supposed to use was malfunctioning.
5:23 not realistic? Air India IX 611 hit the airport perimeter wall during takeoff. 130 passenger, landed safely after the pilots (and ground crew) eventually realized what happened.
That flight movie with Denzel is based on an Alaska Airlines flight .. kinda hard to reach for a qrh when both pilots are holding on to the yoke to fight the elevator.
"My God, don't get me started." on the pilot landing the plane in a storm with a tail wind, eyes closed. LOL! :D That blind landing is how I land in MSFS. I'm blaming the joystick, but really, it's probably me. I like that she points out the little things that are realistic. I would have thought the captain drastically dropping the pitch to reduce the differential pressure to get the first officer back into his seat was unrealistic until she said it is realistic. Maybe it would have had a higher score if it hadn't been close to the mountains. But then, it's a movie, so where's the fun in that? :) The inside info she gives is incredibly valuable. I just started ground school, so I'm actually taking notes on what NOT to do (the movies), and what to do (Captain Zoya). I have so much respect for her.
7:14 "They were very very low on fuel. That situation should never come in aviation ... We always have enough contingency plans in place to have enough fuel with us at any given point in time..." Unless you were on Air Canada Flight 143, which took off from Montreal and headed for Edmonton, but literally ran out of fuel halfway through the trip because there were different expectations between the various crew people about whether they were measuring in imperial or metric. Google the "Gimli Glider" incident if you want to know more. Also, I really like how Captain Agarwal's hair gets progressively messier through the course of the video. I imagine she kept having to get up and shake her head at all the ridiculous stuff she had to watch, and that took a toll on her styling. 😁
It would take a lot to make me fly anywhere, that been said I realize that airplanes are wonderfully designed machines and I respect all pilots P.S. I'm really tempted to watch Sully, it's prized by every pilot i seen in tv or net
That picture they showed about flight 261 is completely wrong. That was a 737 "classic" and the real aircraft was an MD-83 "Mad dog". Same aircraft as the film. That flight ended in tragedy and it should have been no different in the film. Unfortunately, that film gets so many details wrong in the actual flight sequence that it is hard to explain. If you want a realistic depiction. Sully has the most realistic flight sequence ever put on the big screen.
It is accurate in every detail. Down to the flight attendant uniforms and the seats. I was a passenger on many 320-series US Airways flights until they were rebranded. It looked VERY familiar.
Until they get to the part where the crash investigators are harassing the pilot afterwards. Sully said that absolutely didn't happen and would never happen, because the investigators are professionals who handle their role respectfully, and he was on record as hating that the movie chose cheap drama over realism after the event.
I wish she had commented on the kid in 'Snakes On A Plane', who flew and landed the plane, after claiming he had a few hundred hours of flying experience...in a video game.
Except more than once something similar to that has happened in real life and some games are scarily realistic when it comes to controlling the planes even if the physics are not.
while the playstation would not help much with flying a real airplane, I have seen some of the setups people have for things like the MS Flight Simulator. They probably could land the real thing. there is a whole community out there of hard core sim players who build what are called "sim pits", its basically a full flight simulator minus the motion systems. some of the "games" and I use that term lightly for things like DCS and MS Flight Sim will let someone basically run a full cockpit with all the buttons.
"Please show me something realistic!"
Snakes on a Plane.
I wanted to write exactly the same! 😅
That was great. These editors are brilliant!
Fast and Furious 6.
A documentary filmed in real time!
Captain: Can I review Sully?
Insider: ...no.
Applauded Zoya when she brought up her meetings and environment in cockpit. How many flights have ended in disaster because a co-pilot was scared or intimidated to speak up about bad practices. Too many pilots have been flying when they were a danger because no one had the confidence to speak up as a safe environment & culture wasn’t encouraged.
I absolutely concur
Definitely, this has been a major factor in aerospace disasters, NASA labelled it as "Group-think", and it's very dangerous to assume things and not speak up.
Yeah, another fact that I recently found out about, is that you don't have the same crew onboard on all flights... captain-first officer crews combinations constantly change so you have to build up trust and self-trust within two flights
I feel like half the air crashes we know about would not have happened if people felt like they could speak up
The biggest air disaster in history can be in part tied to this. The pilot basically overrode his flight crew and they didn't object because he was so well respected and had basically trained half their airline.
“They will move mountains for you.” Would be pretty handy when you’re flying through mountains 😂
badum tss
moving mountains would silence the ground proximity warning system
Speaking of planes crashing on the mountains, watch....
ALIVE.
CLIFFHANGER.
MOUNTAIN BETWEEN US.
Thanks for explaining her joke back to us, good job
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How can she smile so nice while describing awful disasters? She is really great!
thats experience and fearless
Professionalism, you gotta learn how to handle those situations with calm otherwise disaster turns into a bloodbath
botox. obviously
Milf
@@coal1987 not that obvious tbh
I love the unbridled savagery of her reviews. "This is wild and enjoyable -10"
Fun and realistic very rarely coexist and she just murders these clips, glorious. :)
searched Zoya Agarwal on youtube... seems she has an amazing life story too!
While that first example was based on a real flight, the actual conditions were utterly terrifying and when they got upside down it was unrecoverable sadly.
She has surprised me how these movies are based on real life incidents...They truly study every single crash
"This is based off of something that actually happened .... so -100 for realism"
@@ItsBigZoo Lol, because it's not recommended
@@ItsBigZoo because the idea was taken from the real event, but it was taken to ridiculous Hollywood drama levels... f.e. the inverted flight from Flight, happened at much higher altitude and the pilots only took it as a last resort, they managed to keep the airplane airborne for some time until a solution was found, but in the end the plane crashed like a rock from the sky and everybody on board died
I know it doesn't necessarily include pilots but I really wanted her take on the airplane crash scene from the Dark Knight Rises.
It was done practically
She has to be the harshest scenario critic of the entire series! But she was very knowledgeable and what a wonderful smile!
She reminds me of my mom, a small batterie packed with the energy of a nuclear plant! 😅
that's because there's no room for error when flying
I don't think she was harsh, the clips were all bonkers.
@@ericfellner2689 Compared to the other experts she was! Harsh criticism ain't necessarily a bad thing if it's justified, which was in her case as you pointed out so well about how much most of these were indeed bonkers!
She explained very well that criticism which made it a very precious knowledge for future filmmakers that would want to make such themed movies.
Many of these Hollywood scenes are supposed to be extraordinary events. Sure under normal circumstances it doesn't happen. Under normal circumstances you don't take off unless you have absolute certainty of all safety requirements, but none of them were supposed to be normal circumstances! Not to mention there would be tremendous mental pressure during such events, ie gun pointed to head, or passengers lives are already at stake anyway if she doesn't take off or land etc. etc.. She's missing a bit of the point here, looking only from a normal circumstance point of view. She is very knowledgeable and experienced though.
She's just being Indian😅 cheap in everything even giving scores!
Wow, she was great! I love how she had clearly thought about the disasters shown beforehand and figured out how she personally would have addressed it.
Would definitely like to see more of Zoya, she's a great commentator, and doesn't pull any punches!
What a cool human ! I’d feel so safe with her as a pilot hearing the constant emphasis she puts of protecting the lives of her passengers, ik it’s a given but it’s v reassuring to hear . sending love to her and all ppl in positions of responsibility that operate like this !💖
The scoring system is 0-10
Her : - 100
I love it
The tank commander (Moran) "It has a tank in it" 1/10
Zoya: "It's based on a real incident" -100
I hope she does a part 2, this was a fun one to watch. Love all the minus scores lol
Yes! I’d love to see a part two!!
1:27 last I heard flight attendants being in a cockpit, they were holding the pilot who was half ejected out the window while the first officer quickly landed the plane by himself. Which is not easy as the settings take two people to do.
british airways yep captian got partially sucked out 3 flight attendants held the captian in place while the copilot had to fly solo to an airport he didnt know without charts entirely by instinct and what the controllers told him. dude broke down as soon as they landed
That's the equivalent of holding the mattress over your car with the passenger superman grip we think we all have.
Captain Agarwal: Please show me something realistic.
Insider: Snakes on a Plane
When she said 2/10 I was like "Oh cool she liked it" 😄
😅😅
😂🤣😂
Props for knowing about the Alaska Airlines flight 261 incident! The jackscrew in the mechanism that controls the horizontal stabilizer got stripped due to poor maintenance, jamming the stabilizer in the nose down position. Since the pilot was unable to change that, inverting the plane to reverse the stabilizer action was his only course of action. The handbook didn't cover a fully jammed stabilizer, but I'm sure they read that before trying this. Unfortunately, they were unable to make a water landing in the Pacific inverted.
The fast and furious one was absolutely ludicrous. Remember watching it thinking "just how long is this runway?".
That long runway featured in an earlier Insider, didn't it.
26 miles I believe. Lol
Never as long as the _Captain Tsubasa_ pitches.
Ludicrous and F&F are kinda synonymous.
I have had the displeasure of seeing two of them, and I wish I could have that time back.
i love her reactions. she is fearless on defending real airmanship
Working alongside her must be a joy! She's amazing!
We need more of Captain Agarwal. She's awesome.
Do *"Astronauts review fictional spacesuits in movies & tv."*
Like how practical and ideal they are in real life.
There was a video like that with a Smithsonian Air & Space Museum curator, who contextualized the spacesuits in terms of the years the movies were from, which was pretty cool.
@@grjohejw84thg Sweet. 👌
There’s one with Chris Hatfield. His review of Gravity was hilarious.
In regards to takeoff performance I remember a case where 747 was taking off and the captain noticed a poor climb rate, he went back to the airport. What has happened, the night before they cleaned carpets inside without drying them, the amount of water was enough to ground aircraft.
Jesus Christ.
Sheesh. Better safe than sorry but that would be annoying if your plans got canceled because of carpets.
@@Lumeniaellina unusual take off conditions are a cause for immediate grounding. The pilot can't know without investigation why the plane is failing to climb at the right rate, it could be thrust output (or in an extreme case) something physically interfering with the wing.
There was a flight in Kazakhstan (Bek Air Flight 2100) which resulted in the plane crashing due to ice forming on the leading edge of the wing. The plane actually had two tail strikes attempting to take off, and multiple people got injured slipping on the ice when they evacuated over the wing.
1:49 Correctly states that the movie was based on Alaska Airlines flight 261. *Editor shows a picture of a 737 in connection to that flight, which is not even close.*
@@Tomsm8 Yeah, the ratings the guests give are nearly always completely arbitrary.
You guys should have gotten Mentour Pilot to do these. On his UA-cam channel, he covers all sorts of real life aviation incidents and disasters and even uses the final reports when available to help explain everything.
Oh, she is good. She is really good. I wish there were more movies with airplane emergencies so that we could see more of her ;-)
When a lady can say ‘chonqing to lhasa’ nonchalantly…u know she is a legitimate experienced world traveler
I think she just gave the lowest average points in the history of the show😂. Brilliant!
Surprising the film that started the entire "Disaster" genre wasn't here... Airport 1970. Would like to see Zoya review the climactic scene where Global 2 is on its Precision Radar Approach to Lincoln Runway 29.
My brother was a pilot and watching this brought back some good memories. He was always by the book too!
I just love how the scores get progressively SO MUCH WORSE! I live for the drama, she needs to come back
One of the best reviewers on this series. Definitely the hardest judge on fiction. I appreciate her bringing up the importance of crew resource management and use of the QRH instead of pilots trying to hotdog everything and closing their eyes while landing.
We thought the blacksmith a few months ago was a hard grader.
Well she's Indian and they make jews look like the most "giving" human beings😂 just cheapest of the cheap even if it's not money and just scores!
It should be said on the first one that there have been incidents where the situation deteriorated so fast that there was NO TIME to go through the quick reference handbook.
"Please show me something realistic!" *cuts to Snakes on a Plane*
Can we please have more people like her who call out Hollywood bullshit! This is awesome!
Everybody knows hw is bullshit
Bollywood is more bullshit!
I saw something once (I think it was like a National Geographic documentary, but can't remember for sure) where unfortunately all pilots and co-pilots ate the same thing for dinner (I think it was fish or something like that) which turned out to be highly contaminated and it was quite scary and touch and go for a while. It was unsettling for the passengers when they saw all three pilots out cold. Luckily there was a passenger who was a former pilot from the war onboard that used to fly smaller planes but somehow he managed to put it down relatively safely with help from the tower and stewardess, with no real injuries. It was only due to the stoicism and bravery of the passengers and crew that they survived, but it gives great insight as to all the issues that can arise from airplane disasters and the best way to conduct oneself in that scenario.
they give the pilots different meals from each other to avoid this
Airplane! 8/10
shirley you can't be serious
Airplane! Classic
Yeah, it's basically the summary of Airplane. And looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
In the Snakes movie: immediately following Mayday MUST BE the flight number so that the ATC knows which plane has declared the emergency. It has several/many planes in the sector and it can be anyone. Declaring mayday and describing the cirumstances without identification is counterproductive.
For the Sichuan 8633 (The second one) no cabin crew member went to the cockpit. It’s just the CAAC (Civil Aviation Ministration of China) requires two captains and one first officer on all of their high altitude routes, in this case Lhasa. The “cabin crew member” was basically the second captain. He was only in the cabin before because he is responsible for the flight back, and can go to rest at cruise.
10:14 my biggest problem with that scene is the pilot not wearing oxygen mask. If even passengers are wearing it, surely the pilots would be wearing one, long before passengers get theirs.
There are actually a ton of crashes where the passengers in the cabin had their masks on but the pilots didn’t. The masks in the cabin and the cockpit deploy separately, and in some cases the pilots have to deploy their masks themselves rather than having them come down automatically. In that case, since hypoxia can be very subtle, pilots might not even realize they need the masks until it’s too late.
@@cockathiel5319 That's not how it works. Pilot oxygen masks are not even "dropped", not even "deployed". They are on the outboard sides of each pilot and can be donned in seconds, but are not automatic at all. There are checklists of when to use them. When the passenger masks have already automatically deployed, there will be decompression warnings in the cockpit, and the QRH would require them to don oxygen masks immediately.
She was fine, loved her.......feels like they picked the worst movies possible on purpose.
5:45
Yeah, but there’s been literal mid air collisions that people walked away from.
Pilot-in-Command, Zoya, has reaffirmed my confidence in crew aviation.
As a bonified internet expert, who is a licensed commentator on areas out of my expertise: I can't entirely agree with the statement of this licensed pilot. Planes can hit birds and survive it. Planes engines are certified to ingest birds (small) and keep rolling. also there is many air incidents where planes literally lost parts of the fuselages or wing and survived.
I love that one of the highest rated one was the one by the Asylum
when she said "I am doing this for 18 years" I pictured a 10 year old girl flying a plane
1:50 Correction: the aircraft involved in that flight is an MD-80, in which its exterior looks similar to the film.
Flying the aircraft is always a priority QRF and ATC communication may be important but flying your aircraft comes first
She makes basic emergencies sound scarier than they should be
A windshield broke and sucked out the co pilot? I already hate flying, now I gotta worry about cracked windshields?!?!
“Show me something realistic”
Proceeds to show snakes on a plane 😂
it happened twice, once to a british pilot, he also survived
@@isthatrubble British Airways 5390.
@@isthatrubble In the British case it wasn't a cracked windshield but the hole panel blew out because the ground crew used the wrong bolts that were to short.
To ease your tension a bit, the effects of explosive decompression are waaaaaaay overexxagerated in movies. People generally don't get sucked out when there's a small hole.
To give you a real-life situation to look at for comparison. In 2018 there was a small leak on the ISS and an astronaut simply plugged it with his finger until his colleagues could fix it. And this was in space. Nothing blew out, and nobody got sucked through.
I like her, she could be a good companion of the historian guy who is saying "why don't they dig ditches, it's so unrealistic". :)
Ok I like her, very knowledgeable, cares about her profession and her passengers but her extreme “stick to the handbook” I don’t like too much cause yes in about 90% of cases can be solved with that handbook. But there are more than a few dozen events I can think of where they only survived cause they went against the handbook rather than following it. And in those cases it was cause the pilot knew their plane very well and knew what to do. So yes the handbook is good and saves lives but having a strict ideal to not “think outside the box” in an emergency could lead you to overlooking something it doesn’t cover or not think of something.
Some reports are that Alaska 261 was inverted before it crashed. When test flown for a promotional flight, the first 707 was flown upside down in a 1 G barrel roll. The 727 and 747SP were reputed to handle and be flown like fighter jets. Some anecdotes are that they could indeed be flown upside down for short periods of time. In dive like that, probably going through the QRH might seem as something one hasn't time for, I think the movie "Flight" was supposed basically show him as a crack pilot--such pilots are a thing and are noted for their ability to think outside the box. I believe such pilots are coveted for service as test pilots, who must fly planes not yet flown or tested whose handling, quirks, and faults are unknown. FedEx 705 was another plane that performed some serious acrobatics to foil a hijacker who intended to crash the plane. This was a DC10-30--a plane not noted for its acrobatic abilities at all. Even among airliners, it wasn't considered a terribly maneuverable plane. Another commercial plane to lose a cockpit window was British Airways 5390. A window was replaced, and the wrong sized screws were used. It blew out at altitude, sucking the pilot halfway out. Cabin crew had to hold him from being sucked out of the plane entirely. He survived.
Alaska 261 being inverted is on the transcript, so it definitely did happen!
Her attitude was a breath of fresh air. "It was complete garbage, -2000". All the men I've seen have been "It's complete garbage, but I like the actor's hair, so I'll give it a 5." GTFOH. Shame Zoya isn't an expert on more than just piloting. Could do with more of her expert evaluation.
Zoya" PLEASE show me something realistic....
Insider: *loading in...* Snakes on a Plane
me: so accomidating to the lady!
this lady was my college professor. It's why it took me 8 years to graduate.
Did she give negative grades? ;)
“please show me something realistic!”
[snakes on a plane]
In "Flight" the pilot was drunk. That's really what the movie is about. But it's a flight I would never want to be in.
I disagree with the assessment of the first clip. First, like you said, that was a real incident, for which there was no procedure in the QRH. Second, in regards to calling someone else into the cockpit to help, did happen, with the Sioux City crash where a third pilot as passenger was called in to work the throttles when they lost directional control. Third, sometimes when the situation is dire enough with minimal time, the QRH isn't as option as in this movie, or like in Sullie, where he turned on the APU right away, even though that wasn't part of the checklist. Sometimes, you have to use your gut and experience to make judgement calls and decisions that aren't in the QRH. To say you should do what's in the QRH and only that would likely have killed a lot of people had that advise been adhered to. At the end of the day, fly the plane and save the lives of everyone aboard.
Why did it take so long to find somebody that was thinking exactly what I was thinking. Even after she said it really happened, and she "respected the Captain's decision.", she says 0/10??? Had he "stuck to the handbook", everybody would have died. I wonder if she thinks she could have done a better job.
@@stacie7766 Whip Whitaker is a completely fictional character, as is every single person about the flight depicted in Flight (2012), as is the entire incident. She does not say "It really happened", she says "this is a real incident" in regards to the inverted flight, which was a real life maneuver that Flight took inspiration from. But it is in no way an adaptation of that incident.
She's cool, reminds me of every pilot portrayal in a film, just dope.
What an impressive lady. Beautiful, smart, and funny, not to mention a brave for piloting a plane.
The plane that had 3 engines, 1 on each wing and 1 in the tail, they did have a passenger come up to the cockpit to help them fly the aircraft in that emergency. The passenger happened to be an expert on that particular aircraft, but it has happened before.
UAL232
He was not a passenger! Dennis Fitch was a training chek pilot. His job was literally to train and assess actions of regular pilots. More than that, after the catastrophe of JAL123 he went to the simulator to try and fly the plane with throttles only. By no means he could be called a cabin crew. And definitely he's not a pax.
@@freshname The one I watched, the guy was a passenger and not actually working at the time the plane lost it's hydraulics and tail engine.
@@CarbonGlassMan Yes, you're talking about the famous UA232. He WAS a passenger in a sense that he wasn't a part of the cockpit crew on that flight, but he WAS NOT a passenger in the sense that he wasn't paying for his trip. It's wasn't his private journey, he was being relocated to another training bace on that plane. He was summoned to the cabin because of his superior rank and superior expertise. It's not like it was his first time flying the plane, as we can see in that movie clip.
The only time I know of an extra person in the cockpit helping fly is United Flight 232, and that person moving the throttles was Check Captain Denny Fitch. The flight attendant who brought his offer for help up either escorted him or told him to head to the cockpit (1989, y'all) and went back to her job- preparing the cabin and passengers.
I don't like her explanation on the 2012 scene, bringing up the concorde incident doesn't make sense when there isn't a fuel tank above the landing gear on the AN225. The way she says "I would solve it from the flight deck", this is the AN225 which takes 6 people to fly, the fuel/hydraulic pumps can only be reached by the fuel/electrical engineer.
The point of these series is to get expert opinions on what is and is not feasible within movies. This requires taking their knowledge of how things physically work, and suspending a degree of disbelief regarding how they got in position. This woman can't extrapolate like that and it means that she'll see something like an arrogant captain paired with a silent first officer (which happens all the time) and give it a 2 because they should have done better. She's out here giving scores of -10 because people didn't do the appropriate pre-takeoff checklist ffs...
Yeah, this is unfortunately the typical Indian mindset. Extreme adherence to what you're taught with zero room/ability for critical thinking or imagination.
Though a lot of what she is saying applies, many things such as "you would never have a car near a runway" are disproved in day to day operations by airport vehicles such as patrol trucks and sometimes fire engines on practice routes. It also seems to me that she bases the intensity of reality not based on if it could happen but rather on if it happens in standard convention.
Cool. India has the world’s highest share of female pilots. She’s clear evidence that they’re professionals (as if that were necessary)
7:04 This was based on a real flight incident of Jet Airways 555. I'm surprised she wasn't aware of that.
Also fun to look up the story of SpiceJet 256.
Love the video!
2:18 Flight attendants check all the bins before taxiing that’s happened when the captain announces an “cross check”
"This was exactly how it would be - I'll give it a 1/10"
As a contractor employee, I can tell you I have been on the Apron and Taxiway of an AFB while the runway was active. I even drove near a bomber because the gate we were supposed to use was malfunctioning.
"Show me something realistic!"
*Cuts directly to Snakes On a Plane*
Everyone thinks snakes on a plane is a joke till they hear the real life story of a crocodile bringing down a flight.
5:23 not realistic? Air India IX 611 hit the airport perimeter wall during takeoff. 130 passenger, landed safely after the pilots (and ground crew) eventually realized what happened.
Zoya is such an inspiration
2:32 It's literally impossible to follow a checklist from the QRH when you're in an uncontrolled decent situation with the lost of flight controls.
No it isn't.
that is why you have a co-pilot.
I've been watching UA-cam vids of aviation accidents for like 8 months now and i know the story of EVERY call back she used
How do u give it a 0 when I actually happened 😂
Because that flight crashed into the Pacific ocean and no one survived 😬
That flight movie with Denzel is based on an Alaska Airlines flight .. kinda hard to reach for a qrh when both pilots are holding on to the yoke to fight the elevator.
Love this! She did great!!!
"My God, don't get me started." on the pilot landing the plane in a storm with a tail wind, eyes closed.
LOL! :D That blind landing is how I land in MSFS. I'm blaming the joystick, but really, it's probably me.
I like that she points out the little things that are realistic. I would have thought the captain drastically dropping the pitch to reduce the differential pressure to get the first officer back into his seat was unrealistic until she said it is realistic. Maybe it would have had a higher score if it hadn't been close to the mountains. But then, it's a movie, so where's the fun in that? :)
The inside info she gives is incredibly valuable. I just started ground school, so I'm actually taking notes on what NOT to do (the movies), and what to do (Captain Zoya). I have so much respect for her.
7:14 "They were very very low on fuel. That situation should never come in aviation ... We always have enough contingency plans in place to have enough fuel with us at any given point in time..."
Unless you were on Air Canada Flight 143, which took off from Montreal and headed for Edmonton, but literally ran out of fuel halfway through the trip because there were different expectations between the various crew people about whether they were measuring in imperial or metric. Google the "Gimli Glider" incident if you want to know more.
Also, I really like how Captain Agarwal's hair gets progressively messier through the course of the video. I imagine she kept having to get up and shake her head at all the ridiculous stuff she had to watch, and that took a toll on her styling. 😁
There are easily 1,000+ cases of fuel starvation leading to crashes.
It's crazy how long that list is.
It would take a lot to make me fly anywhere, that been said I realize that airplanes are wonderfully designed machines and I respect all pilots
P.S. I'm really tempted to watch Sully, it's prized by every pilot i seen in tv or net
"Show me something realistic" cuts to Snakes on a plane
She’s harsh. But I can tell she knows her craft.
Passenger 57 and Executive Decision.
I would have like to see these two for Zoya to review.
Overall it was pretty good.
Zoya was really interesting! Please bring her back for P2.
That picture they showed about flight 261 is completely wrong. That was a 737 "classic" and the real aircraft was an MD-83 "Mad dog". Same aircraft as the film. That flight ended in tragedy and it should have been no different in the film. Unfortunately, that film gets so many details wrong in the actual flight sequence that it is hard to explain. If you want a realistic depiction. Sully has the most realistic flight sequence ever put on the big screen.
"Please show me something realistic"
Plays snakes on a plane...
Sully is like a documentary in term of airplane emergencies.
It is accurate in every detail. Down to the flight attendant uniforms and the seats. I was a passenger on many 320-series US Airways flights until they were rebranded. It looked VERY familiar.
Until they get to the part where the crash investigators are harassing the pilot afterwards. Sully said that absolutely didn't happen and would never happen, because the investigators are professionals who handle their role respectfully, and he was on record as hating that the movie chose cheap drama over realism after the event.
There is an actual case of a russian Aeroflot crew landing blind because THE CAPTAIN BET HE COULD DO IT ! .......
He quickly found out he couldn't.
Hahaha 🤣 she said show me something realistic.... Next clip- Snakes on a Plane.
I wish she had commented on the kid in 'Snakes On A Plane', who flew and landed the plane, after claiming he had a few hundred hours of flying experience...in a video game.
Except more than once something similar to that has happened in real life and some games are scarily realistic when it comes to controlling the planes even if the physics are not.
while the playstation would not help much with flying a real airplane, I have seen some of the setups people have for things like the MS Flight Simulator. They probably could land the real thing. there is a whole community out there of hard core sim players who build what are called "sim pits", its basically a full flight simulator minus the motion systems. some of the "games" and I use that term lightly for things like DCS and MS Flight Sim will let someone basically run a full cockpit with all the buttons.
@@grimalkin6676 Are you also reminded of Richard Russell?
"Please show me something realistic"
Cut to Snakes on a Plane 😂
She is THE stereotypical cool pilot
they showed a 737 for the alaska flight 261
I wish they had included the crash scene from _Greenland_ - it was made in such detail.
at 03:00 when there's a decompression, aren't the pilots supposed to put on the oxygen mask first, whatever the situation is, so they won't pass out ?