US Navy Pilot Rates 10 Fighter-Pilot Scenes In Movies | How Real Is It? | Insider
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- Vincent Aiello spent nearly 25 years in the US Navy as a fighter pilot. He rates the realism of fighter-pilot scenes in popular movies. Vincent flew the F/A-18 Hornet and Super Hornet and the F-16 Fighting Falcon. He has completed over 3,800 flight hours and 705 carrier landings, and served as a TOPGUN instructor and air wing operations officer. He left the Navy in 2017 to become a commercial airline pilot. He also hosts the popular podcast "The Fighter Pilot Podcast."
Vincent analyzes the realism of dog-fight scenes in "Tomorrow Never Dies" (1997), "Iron Eagle" (1986), and "The Final Countdown" (1980). He also rates scenes with fighter pilots attacking other craft, such as "Air Force One" (1997) and "Independence Day" (1996). He looks at stunts featuring US aircraft such as "True Lies" (1994), "We Were Soldiers" (2002), and "Live Free or Die Hard" (2007). He breaks down the skills of Tom Cruise in "Top Gun" (1986) and addresses why fighter pilots have nicknames such as "Maverick."
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US Navy Pilot Rates 10 Fighter-Pilot Scenes In Movies | How Real Is It?
As a former Navy Radarman, he was spot on in his description of how radar works aboard a ship. His other comments were 100% correct. Well done.
Almost like he's a real expert or something!
ICman here, of course he knows how a Radar operates he's a freaking fighter pilot.
@@nobytes2 "the real deal" nothing phony or pretentious.
shipmate
hes a navy fighter pilot lol
"Doesn't mean a plane that is diving will sound like a WW2 Era Stuka bomber"
Agreed.
Just shows how well designed the Stuka was that the sound became eternally ingrained in our consciousness. Associate it with doom and death. Well done Nazis... I guess. 😔
@@avisian8063 not to mention it was only 1 or 2 stuka"s... the future stuka's didn"t have that siren lol
@@kajmak64bit76 you mean 1 or 2 stuka "variants" ? If yes,then correct
Only few Versions of the JU87 had the sirens and later versions didn't have them
For various reasons,one of them is because the sound itself is a dead giveaway of the aircraft and AAA can easily spot and shoot them down
@@aguilardenehra5974 and because it was annoying to the pilots
@@kajmak64bit76 all jokes aside. you would also probably have a massive headache and hearing damage. if thats the only sound you will hear while flying that plane.
The most unrealistic thing about the James Bond clip is the guy thinking it's a good idea to strangle the person flying the damn plane.
OMG (lmao) that never occurred to me until I read your comment
hahahahahahaha
Commited to the cause!
"They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother!"
Interesting thing: the specific plane shown is an Aero L-39 Albatross, which is a two-seat trainer, typically with controls both in the front and rear seats.
The flying through a mountain of fire is pretty awfully done too ngl
This guy was great. He had a good sense of humor. The missile won't get mad and turn back around. That cracked me up.
I'd love to see him react to aircraft in video games, from the arcade games like Battlefield to slightly more simulator games like War Thunder to the hardcore stimulators like DCS
There is a youtuber who was an F-18 pilot who absolutely loves DCS and has the full cockpit setup.
He says its about as realistic to doing the real thing as a "game" is going to get out side of probably few million dollar military training stimulators.
Damn i wish i could think of his name.
@@generalgrevious815 c.w. lemoine?
@@Eduardoklein "absolutely loves DCS and has the full cockpit setup" That doesn't sound like Lemoine.
@@razorbackblood06 last time i checked his Channel he was starting with the dcs videos, idk what hes doing these days
@@Eduardoklein he's done some stuff with DCS, but he doesn't play it regularly. I think most pilots would agree to the statement about the realism of DCS.
Iron man scene??
Clickbaited ;D
Click bait
clickbaited, yep
Click baited lol
10/10, from the HUD to the movements they got the Iron Man suit exactly right to the details as the real one !
Including slicing the F-22’s wing with its butt !
If you're interested, this man hosts a great podcast called "The Fighter Pilot Podcast"
Much creative
Checked out the channel, and its awesome bruh! Thanks a lot!
Awesome thanks!
Knew it.
This guy is awesome
“Callsign is just another name for a nickname”
Me: “So it’s a nickname for a nickname?”
It's the nickname's callsign
@@alwaysdisputin9930 lol
So the callsign is a nickname for nickname so it would be a nickname for a callsign is a nickname
nickname^2
NicknameCEPTION
I read a story recently about the filming of the Final Countdown. They had real difficulty with the F-14 vs Zero because the F-14s just could not maintain the airspeed slow enough. They also didn't have many opportunities with these aircraft because as it turns out, renting (paying the fuel, etc) an F-14 was very expensive. The Navy didn't donate their time.
Lol, and i thought the USN would be nice enough to offer some juice.
@@denzelpardillo1181 The US Military paid for some of the flight time in Top Gun. Some of it could be counted as training for the pilots. I don't know about Final Countdown, but it still only applies to pro-military movies.
That doesn't surprise me at all. The T-6 Texan used in the movie to represent the zero has a top speed of about 181 knots. A fully configured for landing F-14 is going to fly around 135-155 knots with gear down, full flaps, and the airbrakes deployed (yes that's the F-14's landing configuration, including the airbrake). The flaps on the F-14 had a max maneuvering speed of about 225 knots and about 3.5g before they'd get jammed. Not a lot of room to play there.
Basically, the T-6 Texan would be flat out and the F-14 would be as slow as is possible and maintain flight.
As for the particular scene, having flown similar dissimilar engagements in DCS World using the F-14 vs FW-190's in a joke event, the closure speed makes for some DICEY passes. Sad they didn't point out that Final Countdown got the sounds right for the M61A1 Vulcan! :)
@@Whiskey11GamingC.W. Lemoine has a video in his channel doing a livestream with one of the F-14 pilots in Final Countdown. Even he was saying how difficult it was due to the huge gap in speed. And originally they used a Helo to film the air scenes and that added another issue. They couldnt ever get all the aircraft in the shot. They ended up modifying an old B-24 to film from and the Tomcats were pushed hard to get slow enough. Considering those were A models with the TF30 engines, pretty impressive. Wasnt as taxing with the B and D with the F110 engines that allowed the Tomcats to perform well in slow, high-alpha maneuvers.
And YES! One of the rare movies that gets the M61 cannon sound right. The .50 cal M2 sound movies tend to use is irritating.
7:10 Anakin: "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Vincent: "Not really."
I mean in his case he was going against bots and not actual players ;)
The purpose of propellers on an aircraft are to fan the pilot.
When they stop turning, the pilot starts sweating.
I get it as a joke but I can’t tell is it’s supposed to be factual or not
@@zt8003 False. Lol.
A great helicopter joke. Taken out of context and ruined.
@@harrisonpowers4265 mmmmhsmms3
@@harrisonpowers4265 mmmmhsmms3
So you're saying my GTA V hydra stunts aren't realistic?
lol
My life is a lie 💔💔💔💔💔😭😭😭😭😭
Justin y is a bot
Yup
I THOUGHT YOU DIED !!
Good discussion but clickbait thumbnail because there was no real discussion with the ironman scene.
iron man basically just violates physics the entire time he exists :P there's really no explanation as to how he does anything without sci fi movie magic, and 90% of the time they don't even do that :P
@@davidbouchard8963 well then they shouldn't have put that in the thumbnail. It is clickbait
Thank you for that. Saved my time
@@FlVE Well he did show Iron man holding on to a jet.
@@FlVE lmao yes, thank you for your brave stance against youtube clickbait. you are truly saving democracy and defending the free world with your vigilance.
Worked on the F-15 for 3 years before moving over to the A-10. The reason they liked to fly in the wall is there radar system is one of the best and has an extremely long range and could engage within the maximum range of the missile. Essentially it created a large area of coverage that is hard to defeat.
The F-15 just looks like a stone cold killer.
What a plane
@@Leo___________
Not a pound for the ground, eh?
The fact that this man can take one look at the planes in Top Gun and know exactly what's what is beyond astonishing, that's true professionalism right there.
it was the cold war there was no way paramount would have gotten migs from the soviets
@@SJW7 plus the f-5 is a well known plane
I mean these are all well knows planes. Even with a shred of interest in aviation, millitary in this case, you're gonna know 9/10 planes shown to you.
Why do you advertise Iron-Man in the miniature, if you don't talk about some Iron-Man flight scenes, assess the plausibility and stuff??
Well they did use that scene when talking about machine cannon's sound and firerate
@@theycallmeJacko Yes indeed, but that sounds like a technicality. We all know it's not what we expected when we saw the miniature and the title. ^^
Clickbait
Yup I only watched the video because i thought they were gonna talk about the iron man scene -.-
@@gio6623 agreed
My dad is actually friends with the pilot of one of the “migs “. He worked for the pilot after he (the pilot) became an admiral. He recalls seeing the helmet from Top Gun on the admiral’s desk.
Nice! My dad used to work for the guy who flew the E4B in Sum of All Fears (as my dad used to work for NAOC on the E4s)
He must be pretty good to be in the movie
@@georgecoull1883
“Rat” Willard.
Gen. Herbert "Hawk" Carlisle
- USAF CENTCOM Chief
next video: ‘Covid-19 reacts to movies about viruses’
Lmao
I would like to see that one!
loool
AIDS protesting on veteran rights
"This movie [Contagion] predicted my existence"
I didn't know that there was a movie named "octopussy"
Its an okayish old Bond movie
Gotta check out the sequel they made, "Octopenis".
Don't worry - those of us who knew tried really hard to forget it.
@@tmclaug90 and then the trilogy ends at “Octointercourse”
@@tmclaug90 Japan has already made that movie 1000 times
The "Broken arrow" code he talks about means "We are being overrun, bomb my position" which only was used a couple of times during Vietnam, and the first time was indeed during Ia Drang valley. It isn't actually related to the air force code for losing a nuke, the Army and Navy codes are different but I can see the confusion about it.
And yeah, films from the battle show the Skyraiders dive bombing from very low altitude, I am assuming they went so low to identify their targets.
"We were soldiers" is actually pretty historical accurate unlike "Braveheart" and the "Patriot". Maybe because it is based on the book written by the guy Mel plays and that they had both real footage and vets to help them to get things right.
Yup, 'Broken Arrow' in that time frame meant, "we are in immanent threat of being over-run without the capacity to do a god damn thing about it." It was a request for all stationed aircraft and assets not currently in combat to divert to the coordinates and report when they were on station or in visual range for direction to targets. Radio would direct targets relative to signal smoke areas or at will outside of smoked areas. If there were artillery assets, radio would give walk it back coordinates to their position. The rumor was that artillery would continue to that position if they heard radio verbally sign off - meaning to not let them take me. I think the later was not a policy but a soldiers agreement that was understood in that time. Both of my uncles were Vietnam radio operators with the Cav. They told a lot of stories about how many times they came close to calling it.
"this is my favorite scene, I'm going to give it a 2/10"
"Two."
It’s rated on realistic ness
Its nice movies to watch but he rated 2/10 for not been realistic
Because he knows it doesn't have to be realistic to be awesome.
I loved his thoughts on that scene from Iron Man, as promised in the thumbnail.
ik right like that's the reason i came and he just doesnt get to review it
If they only showed the pricture it’d be easier to forgive but they even wrote the name, that’s just misinformation
@Dorian Mead Wow you’re the first person to notice, cheers mate
Lmao I double checked the timeline and damn....what a sad clout
clickbaits work, i guess. saw it, clicked it, watched it. and then i realized.
so it won't get a like outta me.
“Crumples into a big puddle of... men” yeah that’s basically me going straight to bed after work
next video: ‘Covid-19 reacts to movies about viruses’
I know it was probably a typo. But this came out as a horrendous gay joke hahahahahahaha
@@damnfk063 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Ratta-tatta" vs "Brrrt"
Flying an F-16 with your knees takes Ultimate Level Skills+
"The Final Countdown" is to me, without fail, a movie that gives me happy chills. Watching F-14s take out (simulated) Zeros and the pilot/actor nearly stalling his Tomcat in a scene is awesome. I saw this two days ago, by chance, and the "Splash the Zeroes" scene is gold.
He could've given The Final Countdown a 9 out of 10, because they actually got the gun sounds right in that shootdown.
also the zero fighting scene is real minus the take downs and one of the F 14s almost stalled out and crashed during filming
This guy's callsign is literally "Jell-O"
Legend.
Callsigns are usually gained by embarrassing yourself. I'm imagining that he spilled jello over himself or something similar.
@@DERP_Squad and it rhymes! I'm just here imagining hostile bandits flying by and seeing "Jell-O" on the side of the cockpit, or the radio communications between him and base lol
@@AlvinDarmawan05 On the side of a cockpit is the rank and name of the pilot. I don't think that they put the call sign on. Part of the reasons for call signs is that the enemies are unlikely to know them, so even if they have breached comms security, it'll be mostly useless to them as they don't know which aircraft is reporting, or being given orders.
@@DERP_Squad oh I didnt know that! Though I'm pretty sure I've seen some written inside quotation marks, or are they just nicknames?
@@AlvinDarmawan05 It tends to be more of a movie thing to have the callsign written on the aircraft. The name and rank of the pilot isn't secret information. You are allowed to tell the enemy your name, rank, and serial number so they can report you captured, or if they found you dead the information is on your dog tags, to the International Red Cross. The IRC would then report that information on to the enemy government, who in turn should let the family know. The names are written on the aircraft in case any identification on the body is destroyed. Though I think that the US has stopped writing the names on the aircraft recently as now only the commanding officer and executive officer have assigned aircraft. The other members of the squadron get aircraft assigned on a mission by mission basis.
I could watch these breakdowns for hours on end
There will soon be enough of them for you to do just that
Check out C. W. Lemoine. He has a series called Mover Ruins Movies on this exact topic. He's an ex fighter pilot with plenty of experience.
They are all over now man. WIRED, Vanity Fair and GQ, for sure, all have their own series like this with experts critiquing movies and/or TV series with fighter pilots, language experts, surgeons, forensics, etc. all doing this same thing.
If you do you are in risk of getting a breakdown!
"The final countdown" is a great movie. I must have gone out to see it more than five or six times. Sober, credible aircraft wise, and devoid of crappy conversations. It does deserve the higher note.
Speculative story lines like this are fascinating when done well.
It was a big plus that the USN was so supportive.
The Final Countdown outguns Top Gun every time!
Best F14 scenes in Final Countdown...the end credits are better than Top Gun.
I think the most "sobering" thing about Final Countdown is how it eventually reveals to the audience via the script dialogue that their single Nimitz Class carrier and it's entire current contingent of aircraft and weapons literally out performs and out classes THE ENTIRE ATTACK on Pearl Harbor, which was a multi wave, multi carrier, several HUNDREDS of aircraft, SEVERAL HOURS attack - to where as the Nimitz could fully deploy it's air assets and within a few minutes, have decimated that entire WW2 era task force from Japan.
The other sobering fact was the whole moral plot line of the movie itself - they acknowledge the Grandfather Paradox type of scenario and choose to let history play out.
Very underrated movie. Especially for us military / aviation nerds.
The dogfight scene, one of the Tomcats rolls over the top and departs controlled flight, it was real and I can only imagine the pucker factor in the cockpit!
Always entertaining to watch a real expert rip Hollywood script writers to shreds.
Always boring to see real life stuff in movies because they are made for fun. They are not documentary
“Hey, president, I got this...... Sir!” Hahahaha awesome
14:50- The red shirt is there so that the away team has a non core character to sacrifice for dramatic effect.
ALSO: Names are giveaway too:
"Lieutenant Warf: you, Riker, Data and Santiago beam down to the surface..."
-a Stand-Up comedian at a late-90's Star Trek Convention
Spoiler: Santiago is gonna get it
Sick reference bro!
Guy Fleegman : Yeah, but that's when I thought I was the crewman that stays on the ship, and something is up there, and it kills me. But now I'm thinking I'm the guy who gets killed by some monster five minutes after we land on the planet.
-Galaxy Quest
"you just hear that "zzz" sound..."
You mean "BRRRTTT" sound?
haha a-10 go brrrt
Different caliber guns make different noises
More like TRRRTTRRRRR
Was thinking the SAME thing!!!!!
By law, only the A-10 is entitled to make a BRRRTTT noise.
I was in Key West and was lucky enough to be working with my father who was the consultant and A&I for the Zero's on The Final Countdown. One of the Zero pilots was Archie Donohue, WWII Ace. The Zero's were AT-6 Texan trainers that had been converted for the movie Tora Tora Tora. When the F14 (flown by Fox Farrell) blew by the Zero (flown by Donohue) and the Zero got caught in the jet wash, Archie ended up with a huge bruise on his thigh from the stick slamming into him. The Zero's were flying with the throttles to the stops and the F14's were flying at stall speed just to get them both in the same shot. Big shout out to Lloyd Kaufman for being so cool to us while we were there.
I didn't know that the F-14 couldn't maintain a speed low enough to follow the Zero, even @ full throttle.
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 Modern fighter jets *really* don't like flying slow. The F-14 is somewhat unique in this case because it can swing it's wings forward, but even so.
There are pictures of F-16s in the Portuguese Airforce trying to keep up with pilots finishing flight training in training aircraft. They have to keep a high degree angle of attack.
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 They could not match speed. The camera folks could only get a few seconds of both aircraft in the same shot. There is a great shot of the Zero flying through some clouds with the F14 right behind it. Awesome shot.
@@greghavens7679 A T-6 Texan flying flat out can hit about 181 knots. The F-14's LANDING configuration (gear down, flaps down, air brakes deployed, hook down (for carrier landings) was between 135-155 knots depending on weight. The problem is the main flaps had a max airspeed of 225 knots and a maneuvering g limit of 3.5g. Not a whole lot of wiggle room in those ~30 knots, and the F-14 just isn't as impressive looking in a near landing configuration and it's quite dangerous to maneuver aggressively at those speeds.
Having messed around in DCS world with the F-14 vs FW-190's, the closure rate problem is huge and can make for some dicey passes... the FW-190 is a good bit faster than the Texan is =|
@@Whiskey11Gaming I was 14 at the time and didn't know anything about the Tomcat. But I was honored, and still am, when the VF-84 guys spray painted a great big Jolly Rogers on my chest and belly with the squadron stencil when they made me an honorary member. Some things in life just friggin' rock to a teenager. Still got the official T-shirt.
Sir that was a joy to listen to. I have had a love of aircraft since forever (now 62). It is fabulous to hear a true aviator speak of actual flight and combat tactics. Particularly someone who knows their business!! Please do more of this!!
If you haven't already discovered it, look for the Fighter Pilot Podcast on UA-cam, Mr Aiello is the host.
I've watched about 12 of these INSIDER: How Real Is It videos, and this reviewer is by far the bast and most professional I've seen. He knows his stuff cold, picks his points, and rates pretty fairly (I think). Isn't trying to ham it up and make it about him and his experiences (as some of the other reviewers did), either.
That's Vincent "Jello" Aiello, former TOPGUN instructor and host of The Fighter Pilot Podcast. Kinda second nature to him at this point.
Hey its Jell-O!
Personally I would've deducted an extra point or two for the Harrier hover scene in True Lies. Harriers are not remotely like a helicopter+plane hybrid. The jet engines run a lot hotter and need the airflow from flying or else they overheat. When hovering water is injected to keep the temperature down, and they only carry enough coolant to last around 90 seconds. They have that hover capability so that they can take off and land on amphibious assault ships, but in a combat zone they just operate like a normal fixed wing aircraft.
So you are telling me the Harrier that hovered over the map after 7 kills in CoD MW2 was a lie 😡
Could there potentially be a modification for the harrier that adds more coolant?
I also remember seeing something about the Marine Corps testing a new ability with the AV-8A called Viffing (vectoring in forward flight) in the 1980s.
Could there potentially be a modification for the harrier that adds more coolant?
I also remember seeing something about the Marine Corps testing a new ability with the AV-8A called Viffing (vectoring in forward flight) in the 1980s.
... and the idea that someone in a Harrier can hear anyone else shouting is laughable. If you've been anywhere near one then you'll know what I mean. Those things are LOUD!
Also, they use engine bleed air to operate the guns which can't be used during hovering. Pretty much everything about the harriers in this movie was fantasy.
F-14: Literally travels back in time
Pilot: 8/10
I enjoy Vincent's podcasts. I have emailed him several times either sharing a video about fighter planes or questions and he always replies. A guy that is informative and easy to listen to.
In Air Force One, the President specifically asked the Lt. Colonel if he was a pilot and he said no, so that would explain why he didn't know where anything was. Also, in True Lies I never understood why the Harriers did their strafing run across the bridge rather than lengthwise.
Vincent, that was great. Very professional and humorous evaluation. I very much enjoyed this.
That clickbait though, he barely talked about Iron Man: (6:44)
Ok
It's always interesting to listen someone who knows his subject .
If anyone here haven't check out his podcast "Fighter Pilot Podcast" you absolutley should! Doesn't matter if you're intrested in aviation or not! Check it out!!!
The purpose of propellers on an aircraft are to fan the pilot.
When they stop turning, the pilot starts sweating.
@@clarissagun5581 you stole that
I was going to scan thru this quickly but got hooked in the first minute and stayed for the entire vid. Engrossing and fascinating!
This is honestly amazing commentary. The thing that really gets me is his ability to sift through the spatial positioning to correct the comments! He can just look at these scenes and know whether he's looking at left-wing, right-wing, 6 o'clock, or whatever. Man. Can't fake that!
Yaaaa “Jello,” your the best, love your insights and the fighter pilot podcast
I like the idea of an ‘angry missile’ 😂
25 years in the Navy? Wow I thank him for his service. My grandpa also served in the military during WWII
So that'll have been 25 months then!
My grandpa served as a fighter pilot during the civil war
@@falaendil8813 I hope your joking
@@legionx4046 Nah, why would I. He flew the Super Hornet from 1864 untill 12.5. 1865 when he was shot down by a confederacy flak in The battle of Palmito ranch. Honored be his memory.
There's one movie I missed in this compilation: The Bridges at Toko-Ri from 1954. The air combat scenes in this movie is incredible, and you get to see some great action surrounding operations on a Midway-class carrier. The planes are Grumman F9F Panther (that's the straight-wing F9F), Douglas AD Skyraider, and Sikorsky HO3S. Recommended, even if you don't make a video reacting to the aviation scenes in it.
Excellent movie, but the flat top was an Essex class carrier, not Midway class.
As an civil engineer, I give this review a 7/10 because he referred to concrete as cement ...
Isn't concrete mostly cement with a bunch of aggregate added? I guess the only other road surface construction would be asphalt, which I don't think contains much, if any, cement.
Yeah, that made me cringe too. Such a common mistake.
"...what a missle won't do is follow you like 'O yeah, I'm gonna get you'..."
😂😂😂😂
I always laugh at that Independence Day parachute fall 😂
Just because no one else is saying it, "DO AN AILERON ROLL!"
Do a cobra
I love how even with the inaccuracies top gun still makes it mostly believable
One of the hardest things to believe about Zero Hour is that the Zero wouldn't be that hard to take down. The thing that made the Zero so dangerous wasn't just that it could go real fast, it's that it could drop down real slow. In fact, its listed top speed was rarely ever actually pushed, and somewhat amusingly, due to engine types, weight, etc, a Zero could run slow for a LONG time. F14s are big and heavy and gulp down fuel like nobody's business. And remember, the faster you're going, the wider your turn radius. So that F14 could be fighting a stall while that zero's turning on a dime and taking potshots at him. They probably still wouldn't WIN, but unless that tomcat engaged at range and finished the fight long before they were ever seen, that's not gonna go the way they want it to. Tomcat can shoot from afar, but that zero can Happily go toe to toe right up inside that envelope.
Also it would make a lot more sense to me for the tomcats to splash the zeroes at range. The last thing they want is to be spotted, and if Either of those zeroes go home and report that they saw a big flat flame-belching variable-geometry bubble-canopy fighter jet in the air that could push 1300 knots in the 1940s, that's gonna have WAY worse outcomes than "Two planes disappeared under mysterious circumstances".
Would love to see meteorologists rate weather scenes in movies.
Ooh, that’s a good one. They could talk about the CGI done in various scenes and compare them to reality.
There is one out there.
Omg, I agree with this comment =)
Flying cow!
Good news! There is one now!
✨✨✨He is so calm , composed and cool . His personality really suits his profession really well . And the best part about this video is that he explained each and everything so delicately and neatly 👍
Any C.W. Lemoine fans?
TOMCATS!
Mover ruins another channel's comment section. 🤭
Nah. Guy's a douche.
This guy's callsign is literally "Jell-O"
Legend.
How can anybody forget C. W Lemoine's obsession for F-14, he is really good at explaining aviation stuff. On a side note, F-14 is a marvellous piece of engineering, so I can understand his obsession towards it.
I'm glad he said something about the gun. It's weird too, because to me, the "brrrrrt" sound is SO MUCH cooler sounding.
Broken arrow is a term used when a unit is being overrun and to go ahead and use all available firepower on the enemy. Means different things to different branches of the military.
Broken arrow can also referr to a missing nuclear weapon so yeah, context is very important haha
When you hear an infantry division has fucked up so badly they have both acquired and now lost a nuclear weapon.
@@rerror3577 lol that would be a funny news
From what I recall, the 4 missiles fired in True Lies were added after the fact. The harriers were real. The bridge was real. The trucks were real. No miniatures.
True Lies really deserved a sequel.
Best line was from Tom Arnold when he saw Eliza Dushku with a helmet on and said "I remember the first time I was shot out of a cannon".
I know that it was practical, but are you sure that those weren't miniatures?
@@damyr55 I do not know if they used a miniatures for some shots, but they destroyed a real bridge for later scenes. I am reasonably sure there were charges on the bridge to ensure the desired explosion.
"I've never had to defend from someone trying to strangle me." LOL I hope not!
Wow. Absolutely impressive how well this guy knows his stuff. He knew what the planes were just by looking at them, he knew their statistics he knew there abilities. This is someone who really studied and knew his craft very well when wearing the uniform. Hats off to you, sir. I thoroughly enjoyed hearing what you had to say, and learning from you.
Well he was a navy pilot for 20 years lol he actually had a pretty interesting career. He originally flew F-18’s for the navy (on a aircraft carrier for a few deployments too), then he became a TOPGUN instructor for few years, then he flew F-16’s as part of the Navy’s Aggressor squadron (flew as the “bad guy” for training exercises). And now he’s an airline pilot.
Aviation enthusiasts are a special breed of enthusiasts. My husband had grown up on and next to airports with a life long love for aviation, He can tell you what’s flying overhead just by the sound, no need to look (about 95% of the time), and tell me the whole history of the plane and what it’s capable of. Same if one pops up in a movie or TV show. I will say it’s tough to watch certain action movies with him, because whenever they do something insanely realistic, he points it out and explains why lol
They are trained to be able to identify other aircraft, even by just silhouette.
To be honest to just call out the aircraft really isn't hard. Trawl any forums for any combat aviation game like Warthunder or DCS and you'll find hundreds of people that would specify you those aircraft and very roughly what they can do. If you want to talk to him about things only he would know then ask him what being up there is like and tactics.
He’s the host of “The Fighter-pilot Podcast” it’s a really good podcast if your into military aviation
I still love how inside the trailer that got ripped apart by the F-35 one of the screens called it an AV-8B which is for the Harrier JumpJet
One possible explanation for the reversal in Iron Eagle, is that the enemy commander asked for the most heavily armed aircraft in the flight.
In a dogfight, you want the 'cleanest' aircraft, that is, one not encumbered with ordinance. You certainly wouldn't need bombs or fuel tanks in a dogfight.
I'm glad to see The Final Countdown made the list. I read some recalled stories from the film crew and pilots and there was some gnarly flying done in that film.
Huge amount of respect for the navy and Air Force pilots especially fighter pilots the amount of training and mental and physical toughness that it takes to withstand the g’s is incredible and that’s why I aspire to be a fighter pilot because they can do things that a marine or army soldier can’t
William H Macy’s character is not one of the pilots. He is a random Air Force officer (maybe the joint chief from that branch?)
Yup, there were no real pilots on board alive except the president who had flown smaller planes.
Very true not a AF1 pilot definitely not a joint chief with the rank of major. I believe he was military intelligence. Mainly due to the fact he was briefing the president on mobilizations of saddam Hussein’s troops in Iraq.
One thing I remember about The Final Countdown is one of the F-14's obviously having a 'moment' while it was playing with the Zeros.
Quite obviously going slow and it just rocks and threatens to spin and that Zero pilot nearly got a maneuver kill.
I just want to say. I love everything about this man. Thank you.
6/10 for the pilot being capable of saving the woman, fighting a dude with a gun AND being able to hover a Harrier one handed.
He is very knowledgeable on what he's saying about the movie scenes
I loved "The Final Countdown." It's still a great movie, and it's too often overlooked by casual film-viewers.
12:45 he just casually says “ I’ve never had to defend from someone trying to strangle me” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
This pilot has his head on swivel like he's on the job! Excellent guest and episode! 👍
In the “Air Force One” scene, the guy in the right seat isn’t a pilot, of that plane at least, so he wouldn’t know the arrangement of the switches.
Fun fact, when the MiG-29 fires on Air Force One with his cannon, his HUD is showing he's at 1000kph (~540kts) and is only at an altitude of 2000m (~6560ft). The "РЛ" on the left means his radar is on, "БВБ" in the lower left is his radar's operating mode and the "ПР" in the low center is the launch/fire authorization
attention to details.
They got the HUD symbology down! I was impressed. Even the gun pipper looked correct.
Air Force One is a Call Sign not the airplane itself
I want to add, in the segment about "true lies" you mention the harriers needing to keep their lasers targeting the vehicles on the bridge and while yes, some versions are laser guided most varieties of the maverick are fire and forget weapons
Great video overall tho! Keep up the good work
All the -65s I saw in the Air Force were the original TV-guided (internal, not FBW or laser-designated) variant.
Pretty sure they only had IR Mavs on Harriers at the time . . . but Harriers didn't have any capability to laze until about ten years after the movie (when they got litening pods), so whatever they were, they weren't laser Mavs.
Thank you Vincent for taking the time for some nice insides on realism. Appreciate it!
Amazed with the spatial awareness just by watching and listening.
14:15 a year later and having a look at this part again, the Mitsubishi A6M (the one shown is I think the A6M2b Type 0 Model 21) was the quickest and most nimble fighter in the pacific (prior to the introduction of the American built Grumman F6F Hellcat) with a cruising speed of 270mph and a maximum speed of 331mph at 14,930 feet. Just thought I would bring this forward to clarify!
I'm surprised you didn't cover "Behind enemy lines"
Ah, Jell-O, it's so refreshing to see a professional FINALLY adress the "aircraft gun issue" in popular depiction. See, to me, a Gatling-style cannon firing something between 4,000 and 6,000 rounds per minute or even just a revolver cannon at a rate of 1,500 rounds/minute sounds waaaay more powerful going BRRRRRRTTTT than basically any generic stuttering "machine gun" sound. It's like film makers/sound editors seem to think we are all conditioned on WW2 movies ... when, in reality, even some of the guns/cannons from that era made upwards of 1,000 rds/minute. It's a small thing, but it would make flying scenes sooo much more exciting and believable at the same time! The Final Countdown was the only one to get the cannon right!
Modern aircraft guns sounds > WW2 machine gun sounds
Explained amazingly 👏
Incredible how 'Jello' looks EXACTLY how i imagined he'd look!
Even I can tell a plane flying through a fireball is unrealistic
This is like corridor crew’s VFX artist react series
After recently rewatching some Iron Man movies as an adult, it did seem unlikely taking off from the ground like a bullet or stopping on a dime after flying at Mach speed wouldn’t turn the operator inside into goo.
Huge respects for you sir
The problem with the Air Force One clip analysis is that before they got to the cockpit the President asked William H Macy's character (sorry I can't remember the character's name) "can you fly?" and he said "no sir". Marshall, however, was established as a combat pilot in Vietnam flying helicopters and then later said he had experience flying "small planes, not jets". So President Marshall was in fact the more qualified pilot, even though he had no experience on that aircraft. The Major wasn't the first officer in the movie-they killed both the Captain and First Officer during the Ramstein attempted-landing scene.
Haha I was wondering if Iron Eagle would ever show up in one of these videos. Fun movie as a kid, can barely remember anything about it, was wondering how it would hold up to proper scrutiny.
I would have loved you to include the Flying Scenes from Dunkirk in this video. As you said about Hollywood and the masks, but I'm pretty sure that in Dunkirk the Spitfire pilots are covered at all times with their masks.
Yeah same. I’d like to see more accurate depictions being analyzed.
He has another one of these vids and I want to say he did mention that film, but I’m not sure. I remember someone did, because they mentioned how far he was flying that plane level without any functioning engine.
11:04 William H. Macy's Character wasn't a pilot or part of the flight crew. He was part of Harrison Ford's advisory team in that movie. So there is no reason to expect him to be able to fly the plane. He even says in the movie itself hes not a pilot.
I made the comment as well. Unless you saw that part of the movie or the entire movie you wouldn't know the Major wasn't a pilot. So to me that was realistic asking questions and taking direction on how to fly the plane.
Was not expecting to see Vincent Aeillo. I listen to his podcast at work
love theh sound of the GAU-8
Just FYI - In the first scene of Independence Day, you were incorrect about the parachuter being a dummy, it was an actual human, if you play it in slow motion, you can see him maneuver his hands, just before landing so as to somewhat brace himself for the fall. I'm sure he intended for it to look as bad as possible, like a full crumple, and he succeeded, but it was a real life human.
For me to have spot that it wasn't a dummy was when it's feet was flailing upward. A dummy wouldn't flail like that.
I'm almost disappointed that he didn't call in the Tomorrow Never Dies scene the tailing aircraft shaking from gun fire - The gun fire is from a pair of rocket pods
So Iron Man got the same amount of fuel as a maverick. I didn't know this. Thx.
"I never had to defend from someone trying to strangle me." Best line of the video. ROFL
F/A-18? The Hornet? My favourite flight simulator from my youth. You have all of my respect..