After watching many golf lesson videos, Chris’s videos are, hands down, the best. Clear logic as to why something works (or doesn’t) nicely sets up the demonstration.
the best instructors on youtube can execute errant shots in a demonstration. very impressive- i top my long iron just like you showed. Thanks for the excellent explanations
Good Morning Chris. My entire game has been struggling for long time. Long irons have been absent from my game these days. I am a member of a country club so I golf when ever I want to. I have decided to get together with the pro and start watching your videos. I love he game and just want to play respectably. Keep making your videos and I will keep watching. And yes I have subscribed. Thanks much.
I just finished at the range. Using the box next to my ball drill to keep a straight swing path with my long irons and driver, but kept hitting down on the ball with my 3 and 4 iron. I watched this video, one adjustment shift my weight slightly forward with the 3 iron. Hit my next 3 with a 5 yard draw 240+ perfect flight. Thank you so much, big fan if the channel
A superb video Chris, I don't know why I haven't seen this before, but it's brilliant, information packed and I don't doubt that it has and will help so many people to better their long iron striking.
Focused on this and your two tips on increasing club head speed. It seemed to make a difference at the range so I just need to keep at it. Thank you sir
I agree doesn’t make sense his content is some of the best I’ve seen!! Thanks a lot for this video Chris!! This was the foundation I needed in striking my longer irons.
Chris thanks for the videos. I had an idea. What about a video series about club purchasing. Ie. For wedges. Loft, bounce groove , offset , maintenance. I dunno for beginners like me may be helpful . And then the same for putters. Mallet vs blades and what is MOI . Types of Putter strokes with what type of putter
So 2 mins in and you reproduced my two long iron misses perfectly! ….👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼glad im not the only one..back to the video as i have hope as he knows my pain after those two shots…he just may be the 1 with answers 😂✌️👍🏼
When I did do my good long iron shots was when kinda treated it like a driver a little hip forward thing going on. But mostly hit like crap with 3 or 4 iron compared to my trustee 5 that can belt way further than 3,4 bout 150 to 180m. Good tips there 👍
Nice 2 iron shot there! btw Returning the club shaft at the same angle to the ball at address or even slightly under it, works for me.. also most instructors position the ball off "left arm or left heel".. but like Jack said the head position is critical, i like to feel like my left eye is situated right behind the ball at address, which keeps my head there to see the point of impact, the shaft angle and gives me time to deliver the longer iron arch/ tempo and get better feedback
That’s exactly what I struggle with. Love the detailed explanation you give. I learn so much from your videos. The problem is taking it all at once to the course. I better make myself a plan; what can I do better with my driving, long irons, mid irons, short irons, chipping, pitching and putting and focus on these parts individual and let it come together at the end. What are your thoughts about that?
That very first shot you took at the beginning was IDENTICAL to how I hit my long irons. If this weren't a video, I would have sworn I had hit that ball myself. So ball and weight slightly forward fixes this? Gonna try it.
Been practicing this at the indoor range (waiting for the snow to go away) and I've been using my full backswing to get that club head speed and OMG what a difference. The 4 iron actually does make the ball go quite high and far. Been scared to use my full backswing because it's not consistent, but with practice, I'm getting more confident. This is by far the most useful golf video I've seen. And I've watched a ton of them. Oh, this video also helps with my hybrid and 3W.
Your first 2 hits are a perfect replication of every hit of mine regardless of club. Also I’m always always Whooshing my takeaway and always become short and snatchy?
Well demonstrated on how to hit a two iron Chris. I still carry a three iron and only use once or twice during a round, I have never had a two iron as its not Really in my comfort zone.
Hi Nic, not may people carry them these days, although with resent design improvements they are starting to become more used again, but certainly not for everyone 👍
Seems fair. I pure my hybrid/7wood right down the middle every time from anywhere between 215-180 depending on how hard i swing. I think ill just vary my swing speed with that and take my outcome instead of hitting a 3-5 iron that I usually chunk/line/shank 70% of the time. I think its just pride that keeps me going back to the long irons lol.
To me here from the front angle, it doesn't look like you have much forward shaft lean at set up before starting your swing with the 2 iron. I see golfers have much more forward lean to begin with the shorter irons e.g. 8 iron. Am I seeing this right? Is this to promote more solid contact with a club with less loft, and to hit up slightly with the longer irons? Great video though Chris thanks for the advice
At my beginning of playing golf 2 friends gave me one club for practising : a 7i and a 1i. Meanwhile I can easily reproduce your first 2 shots in the video :-) Edit : Great content, thanks! One question : Don't you take divots at all with the longer clubs?
I’m able to hit my 8-W clubs very well but for some reason cannot hit my 4-7 irons with any type of consistency. I know, at impact, that my handle is not forward and should be. I also know that I’m contacting the ground before the ball because of this. Would this be the answer to my issues with my longer irons? Your videos are very helpful and I’ve already started improving over just a few practice sessions! Thanks
Terrific advice thanks Chris, has definitely helped me with my 2 iron. One question, when you're using a 2 iron off the tee, do you use exactly the same principles, or slightly change your weight distribution?
Hi I’m new to golf my HCP is 25 and I’ve just played my first comp my score was 32 in a stapleford, if it was a qualifying comp what would my new HCP be? I’m parading my ignorance I know 👍
36 points would be playing to your handicap. More than 36 suggests you did better than your handicap abs less than 36 suggests a little worse. Handicap may have gone up slightly but this will depend on the conditions on the day 👍👍
That's the mistake I made. trying hit my 4 and 5 like a would a 8,9, 05 wedge. Its caused me to either top the ball or hit the ground way before the ball. Long irons cannot be hit in the same way as a short iron. Two different methods to hitting a short and long. Good vidoe
Thanks Chris. How do you hit a low flight ball specifically on a long par 3 on a windy day if you suggesting that ball position should be inside left heel? I used to move ball back in stance but you suggested that will result in a poor strike that wont go very far. Thanks in advance for the reply.
Hi Juan, thanks for watching, playing the ball further back in the stance with a long iron will produce a lower launch and lower flight. This is an option provided the golfer has sufficient club speed to get the ball to rise in its flight, many golfers who have club speeds in around the 80mph mark will find this shot loses too much distance. So really it all depends on speed, hope that helps 👍👍
Sooo...what I really lack is Speed in the club. So here is my question - from where comes the main force? And I also wonder how much force comes from the trail arm. I always been of the impression that the trail arm should be more passive than the lead arm. You seem to get the main force from the trail arm. Yes, I understand that the body generates the power but how much is canalised through the trail arm? Thnx for great vids !
I dont have the speed so know my limitations and use hybrids and since i ignored my macho side my scores are dropping but i would love to be able to use long irons. Can i ask that i struggle with my 5 iron and i am thinking about replacing that with a hybrid too but my 5 iron is handy for low punches etc and can you hit low punches using a hybrid ? How do you keep it down and still get the distance from under trees etc ? Thanks Chris and hope you had a nice holiday
personally find it very hard to hit hybrids low, that low CG just wants to ping it up. certainly wouldn't fancy trying one out from the trees. 6i set way back can still do the job?
Thanks its just the loss of distance i would be worried about and maybe i should stick with the 5 iron. Do you know if or how to hit low stingers with a hybrid or if possible due to the CG ? I am caught between a rock and hard place as lots of trees where i play and i try to stay out of them but im not always able to
I play parkland course with lots of trees. I've found low shot with hybrid by putting ball back in stance, hands/shaft forward, then swing arms to parallel with stiff wrists. Can get the ball a decent distance with this technique. Mind you my hybrid is 19 deg so prob a bit stronger loft than 5 iron replacement. Hope this helps/works.
thank you so much i will try that i really appreciate your tip but i also have 3 and 4 hybrid already so i could just choke down instead of using the 5 iron replacement hybrid for that shot. Thank you again
Hi Dave, I’d certainly look to switch out the 5 iron if you are struggling with it. A hybrid equivalent will be a little more tricky to flight low, but still possible but setting it back in the stance and making a few swing tweaks 👍
my friend lost/left my driver on the course and never replaced it...my 3 iron became my driver and used to crank 250 - 300 yd drives and low 200s on the fairway.
Shouldn't your speed be different for each club, being faster for every lower number club ? if I can hit my 7 at one speed does that mean my 4 should be higher speed.
Can't even flush my 5 iron. Meanwhile nice easy 2 iron flush 🙈, my 3/4 stays at home, my 2 doesn't exist!. Though he speaks about speed, though it seemed even tempo. Also is it normal to feel or seek a rounded sensation. Or is that wrong
I discovered the secret to hitting a "pure" long iron - hit the ball off a tee. Unless you have a lot of clubhead speed, you can forget about hitting a long iron off the deck with any sort of satisfaction. Use a high-lofted fairway wood instead.
Every time I hit 3 and 2 iron, I get that terrible vibration in the hands. I fucking hate it. I can never hit it right. I really want to get better but I just can’t figure it out. Long irons are pissing me off.
Is this true? Is it the case that you need to have decent swing speed in the first place to be able to use the long irons? Is that why so many high handicappers use hybrids instead because they are more forgiving? Forgive my ignorance, I genuinely don't know!
the club is longer so swinging those clubs consistently faster than all of your other clubs is the best way to control distance. Thats why you will see many people with slower swing speeds hit shorter irons from the rough because they cant generate the speed especially through the rough
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After watching many golf lesson videos, Chris’s videos are, hands down, the best. Clear logic as to why something works (or doesn’t) nicely sets up the demonstration.
100K ?? this channel needs at least half a million subs.
Wow thanks so much 👍
the best instructors on youtube can execute errant shots in a demonstration. very impressive- i top my long iron just like you showed. Thanks for the excellent explanations
Admittedly I was a little nervous stood over this shot! 😀
Good Morning Chris. My entire game has been struggling for long time. Long irons have been absent from my game these days. I am a member of a country club so I golf when ever I want to. I have decided to get together with the pro and start watching your videos. I love he game and just want to play respectably. Keep making your videos and I will keep watching. And yes I have subscribed. Thanks much.
That 2 iron went about 370 based on the shot tracer. Well done!
It was into the wind 😂😂
@@ChrisRyanGolf chris what is your club head speed on this shot?
370 with a 2 iron.I hit mine 250(I am 16 though)
Very good lesson and the point he made about making sure to put more weight on your lead leg at address is critical. Thanks.
I strictly use my 3-4 iron off the tee cause I can hit it longer and straighter than my driver lol
LOL I can hit my 3 iron longer too, but once every 32 shots or so.
That’s what replaces ur driver, I hit my three the same as my 5 wood
Only tour pro can pure a 3i or 2i consistently. Not even a single handicapper.
@@philipchan1856 micah morris can!
Sounds like you’re watching the wrong video haha
I carry a 3 iron to kill snakes. Other than that I don't need it.
Boone Docker a 3 iron is my main club I’m not the best with driving so I usually tee off with my 3 and cover easily 200-300 depending
Mr Lenial I’m exactly the same 😂
300 with a 3 iron? I doubt that
I have a 4-iron in my bag mostly to get flat out under some branches or so.
dueche
I just finished at the range. Using the box next to my ball drill to keep a straight swing path with my long irons and driver, but kept hitting down on the ball with my 3 and 4 iron. I watched this video, one adjustment shift my weight slightly forward with the 3 iron. Hit my next 3 with a 5 yard draw 240+ perfect flight. Thank you so much, big fan if the channel
Awesome Tim, that’s great to hear 👍
A superb video Chris, I don't know why I haven't seen this before, but it's brilliant, information packed and I don't doubt that it has and will help so many people to better their long iron striking.
Focused on this and your two tips on increasing club head speed. It seemed to make a difference at the range so I just need to keep at it. Thank you sir
Really helpful, just what I need
I agree doesn’t make sense his content is some of the best I’ve seen!! Thanks a lot for this video Chris!! This was the foundation I needed in striking my longer irons.
Chris thanks for the videos. I had an idea. What about a video series about club purchasing. Ie. For wedges. Loft, bounce groove , offset , maintenance. I dunno for beginners like me may be helpful . And then the same for putters. Mallet vs blades and what is MOI . Types of Putter strokes with what type of putter
So 2 mins in and you reproduced my two long iron misses perfectly! ….👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼glad im not the only one..back to the video as i have hope as he knows my pain after those two shots…he just may be the 1 with answers 😂✌️👍🏼
This has helped massively! Thank you! Keep up the work!
Brilliant advice. Took it to the course today, what a difference...Thank you!
Thanks Andy 👍
Great instruction. Very clear and precise.
Awesome Chris, you’ve simplified the long iron mistery, now anyone can hit them
When I did do my good long iron shots was when kinda treated it like a driver a little hip forward thing going on. But mostly hit like crap with 3 or 4 iron compared to my trustee 5 that can belt way further than 3,4 bout 150 to 180m. Good tips there 👍
Chris, another well done video. Your precise description and graphics makes your videos so easy to understand. Thank you!
Thanks Mark appreciate it 👍
Great shot at the end
Your videos are always super clear and easy to understand. Thanks Chris!
Thanks Henry 👍
Nice 2 iron shot there! btw Returning the club shaft at the same angle to the ball at address or even slightly under it, works for me.. also most instructors position the ball off "left arm or left heel".. but like Jack said the head position is critical, i like to feel like my left eye is situated right behind the ball at address, which keeps my head there to see the point of impact, the shaft angle and gives me time to deliver the longer iron arch/ tempo and get better feedback
Would be nice to see more slowmos of your swing in the future. Thanks
Yeah and talk at 1/2 speed also, like he was on fast forward
Thanks for this video, with my 3i slice is my problem ,do you have helper video for that? Thanks a head of time.
Chris, another great video! I always enjoy your detailed instructions. Keep filming. great content!
Thanks Vincent 👍👍👍
Good job ... And nice shot at the end ... This video is extremely relevant...
Great drill! I can certainly use it. Thanks.
That’s exactly what I struggle with. Love the detailed explanation you give. I learn so much from your videos. The problem is taking it all at once to the course. I better make myself a plan; what can I do better with my driving, long irons, mid irons, short irons, chipping, pitching and putting and focus on these parts individual and let it come together at the end.
What are your thoughts about that?
After trawling youtube for weeks this is the most succinct explanation on how to hit a long iron well. Thanks!!!
Thank you for mostly pronouncing all the letters in your words so you can be understood, unlike some of these other you tubers.
That very first shot you took at the beginning was IDENTICAL to how I hit my long irons. If this weren't a video, I would have sworn I had hit that ball myself. So ball and weight slightly forward fixes this? Gonna try it.
Been practicing this at the indoor range (waiting for the snow to go away) and I've been using my full backswing to get that club head speed and OMG what a difference. The 4 iron actually does make the ball go quite high and far. Been scared to use my full backswing because it's not consistent, but with practice, I'm getting more confident. This is by far the most useful golf video I've seen. And I've watched a ton of them. Oh, this video also helps with my hybrid and 3W.
Your first 2 hits are a perfect replication of every hit of mine regardless of club. Also I’m always always Whooshing my takeaway and always become short and snatchy?
Great points... Thanks! I needed that information. Honestly, I didn't know some of the tips. You've helped me today.
Thanks Brett glad it’s helped 👍
Excellent video Chris really well explained as usual
Thanks Gordon 👍
Great video big help with those tricky long irons, many thanks. Course looks great too!
Thanks Paul 👍
amazing video, helped a lot, thank you very much Chris.
Well demonstrated on how to hit a two iron Chris. I still carry a three iron and only use once or twice during a round, I have never had a two iron as its not Really in my comfort zone.
Hi Nic, not may people carry them these days, although with resent design improvements they are starting to become more used again, but certainly not for everyone 👍
Seems fair. I pure my hybrid/7wood right down the middle every time from anywhere between 215-180 depending on how hard i swing. I think ill just vary my swing speed with that and take my outcome instead of hitting a 3-5 iron that I usually chunk/line/shank 70% of the time. I think its just pride that keeps me going back to the long irons lol.
Brilliant as usual Chris Thanks.
Thanks Steven 👍👍
To me here from the front angle, it doesn't look like you have much forward shaft lean at set up before starting your swing with the 2 iron. I see golfers have much more forward lean to begin with the shorter irons e.g. 8 iron. Am I seeing this right? Is this to promote more solid contact with a club with less loft, and to hit up slightly with the longer irons? Great video though Chris thanks for the advice
Great video Chris, keep them coming 😁
At my beginning of playing golf 2 friends gave me one club for practising : a 7i and a 1i.
Meanwhile I can easily reproduce your first 2 shots in the video :-)
Edit : Great content, thanks!
One question : Don't you take divots at all with the longer clubs?
I’m able to hit my 8-W clubs very well but for some reason cannot hit my 4-7 irons with any type of consistency. I know, at impact, that my handle is not forward and should be. I also know that I’m contacting the ground before the ball because of this. Would this be the answer to my issues with my longer irons? Your videos are very helpful and I’ve already started improving over just a few practice sessions! Thanks
Terrific advice thanks Chris, has definitely helped me with my 2 iron. One question, when you're using a 2 iron off the tee, do you use exactly the same principles, or slightly change your weight distribution?
Are you keeping your weight on lead side throughout the swing? You mentioned being 55/45 on lead leg at address.
Great Video thanks a lot. How long distance did you hit with that 2 iron ?
Good video Chris. Cheers mate.
Thanks Louis 👍
Chris, I seem to hit fat shots on the inside with longer irons. Any pointers on that?
Great videos, Chris!
Thanks Keith 👍
Nice video Chris! Do we keep the weight 55% front during the backswing as well, or is it just for set-up?
Hi Kevin, pressure should still move u set the right side during the backswing, so just a little more left at set up 👍
great vid i find at the start of a round my 3 iron is good but by the end of the round a tired swing gets found out
Hi I’m new to golf my HCP is 25 and I’ve just played my first comp my score was 32 in a stapleford, if it was a qualifying comp what would my new HCP be? I’m parading my ignorance I know 👍
36 points would be playing to your handicap. More than 36 suggests you did better than your handicap abs less than 36 suggests a little worse. Handicap may have gone up slightly but this will depend on the conditions on the day 👍👍
hi Chris, what should be the shaft angle for long irons. Straight or leaning to the front?
Chris Ryan? Not the SAS lad that walked from Iraq to Syria? Great vid mate, keep them coming..
That's the mistake I made. trying hit my 4 and 5 like a would a 8,9, 05 wedge. Its caused me to either top the ball or hit the ground way before the ball. Long irons cannot be hit in the same way as a short iron. Two different methods to hitting a short and long. Good vidoe
Is distance from golf ball different from short irons and long irons? Do I stand back further than normal using my 4 iron?
Mucho gracias amigo
Awesome longayron
Is this advice the same for a female golfer? Or is weight distribution in the hips different?
DeChambeu has got all his irons at the same length. Is that an advantage?
I hit my long irons pretty well and was hoping to get a little something from this video... I was sort of lost as to what was even going on.
Thanks Chris. How do you hit a low flight ball specifically on a long par 3 on a windy day if you suggesting that ball position should be inside left heel?
I used to move ball back in stance but you suggested that will result in a poor strike that wont go very far.
Thanks in advance for the reply.
Hi Juan, thanks for watching, playing the ball further back in the stance with a long iron will produce a lower launch and lower flight. This is an option provided the golfer has sufficient club speed to get the ball to rise in its flight, many golfers who have club speeds in around the 80mph mark will find this shot loses too much distance. So really it all depends on speed, hope that helps 👍👍
Can’t use the 4 iron for some reason the 5 iron I smash so far
Beautiful shot....what flex is that 2 iron?
Thanks, it’s a project x 6.5 shaft 👍
I noticed your hands/grip weren't ahead of the ball at set up, is that typical with a long iron?
Sooo...what I really lack is Speed in the club. So here is my question - from where comes the main force? And I also wonder how much force comes from the trail arm. I always been of the impression that the trail arm should be more passive than the lead arm. You seem to get the main force from the trail arm. Yes, I understand that the body generates the power but how much is canalised through the trail arm? Thnx for great vids !
this should really help. you teach and give basic concepts that others leave out.
I’ve never tried an iron stronger than a 4. Some of these thicker headed long irons do look intriguing though
Great! Thanks!
Thanks 👍
What clubhead speed would be optimal to hit a 2 iron? And what angle of attack as well would be optimal? 1 degree down? 90 mph?
If your swinging at around 90 then you could afford to be -2/3 and still create a food flight 👍
ChrisRyanGolf what about if your swinging at 85mph? Less steep?
Good video
At what speed would the cut off be? if a player swings at say 85-90 mph with their irons for instance. Is that too slow?
No I’d say that would be classed as pretty high speed 👍
What head speed is "a lack of speed" for long irons?
Should you deloft long irons?
I dont have the speed so know my limitations and use hybrids and since i ignored my macho side my scores are dropping but i would love to be able to use long irons. Can i ask that i struggle with my 5 iron and i am thinking about replacing that with a hybrid too but my 5 iron is handy for low punches etc and can you hit low punches using a hybrid ? How do you keep it down and still get the distance from under trees etc ? Thanks Chris and hope you had a nice holiday
personally find it very hard to hit hybrids low, that low CG just wants to ping it up. certainly wouldn't fancy trying one out from the trees. 6i set way back can still do the job?
Thanks its just the loss of distance i would be worried about and maybe i should stick with the 5 iron. Do you know if or how to hit low stingers with a hybrid or if possible due to the CG ? I am caught between a rock and hard place as lots of trees where i play and i try to stay out of them but im not always able to
I play parkland course with lots of trees. I've found low shot with hybrid by putting ball back in stance, hands/shaft forward, then swing arms to parallel with stiff wrists. Can get the ball a decent distance with this technique. Mind you my hybrid is 19 deg so prob a bit stronger loft than 5 iron replacement. Hope this helps/works.
thank you so much i will try that i really appreciate your tip but i also have 3 and 4 hybrid already so i could just choke down instead of using the 5 iron replacement hybrid for that shot. Thank you again
Hi Dave, I’d certainly look to switch out the 5 iron if you are struggling with it. A hybrid equivalent will be a little more tricky to flight low, but still possible but setting it back in the stance and making a few swing tweaks 👍
Do you recommend bumping the hips forward a little in all shots?
Hi Daley, certainly for the shots when the ball is on the ground yes, helps set the body ready to move correctly through the backswing 👍
I've been really struggling with my 1 iron. I only hit it pure 7 out of 10 times and it's not good enough
4 iron best club in the bag, change my mind
my friend lost/left my driver on the course and never replaced it...my 3 iron became my driver and used to crank
250 - 300 yd drives and low 200s on the fairway.
Sure u did
@@turtle1154 your mom knows, ask her. she'll tell you
flytii good one! Just keep flushing them 300 yard 3 irons bro 😂
Shouldn't your speed be different for each club, being faster for every lower number club ? if I can hit my 7 at one speed does that mean my 4 should be higher speed.
Can't even flush my 5 iron. Meanwhile nice easy 2 iron flush 🙈, my 3/4 stays at home, my 2 doesn't exist!. Though he speaks about speed, though it seemed even tempo. Also is it normal to feel or seek a rounded sensation. Or is that wrong
Nice.
longa ion
awesome vid. i couldn't hit my 4i to save for my life.
I either massively chunk it, hook it, or push it even though it’s pured
4 is my longest iron I use.
I discovered the secret to hitting a "pure" long iron - hit the ball off a tee.
Unless you have a lot of clubhead speed, you can forget about hitting a long iron off the deck with any sort of satisfaction. Use a high-lofted fairway wood instead.
I’m hitting several inches behind my 5 iron
he's kinda got that modern golfer body going (tiger, rory)
You almost hit that building in the distance! Good thing it had a little draw
cant imagine spilling coffee on myself in an outfit like that haha
Every time I hit 3 and 2 iron, I get that terrible vibration in the hands. I fucking hate it. I can never hit it right. I really want to get better but I just can’t figure it out. Long irons are pissing me off.
I carry a 3 iron in my bag. Just to show that I have one.
Yup 90% of all golfers simply don't have the clubhead speed to even think about a long iron.
Is this true? Is it the case that you need to have decent swing speed in the first place to be able to use the long irons? Is that why so many high handicappers use hybrids instead because they are more forgiving? Forgive my ignorance, I genuinely don't know!
the club is longer so swinging those clubs consistently faster than all of your other clubs is the best way to control distance. Thats why you will see many people with slower swing speeds hit shorter irons from the rough because they cant generate the speed especially through the rough
Hit your long Irons pure by buying the new Cobra F9 one lenght golf irons. I love hitting a 4 iron the lenght of a 7 iron.
Best way to pure your long irons is to get a rescue club.
Do you mean a hybrid?I used to have them instead of my irons but I feel more comfortable hitting irons
@@will819 you say potato, but yes, hybrids.
"raise my lead hip a fraction higher" Yikes, can we dispense with the golf jargon?
In my mind, this is the most difficult shot in golf.