People need to understand that that's how it has been done for decades all across the entertainment industry. But this is the first generation not to accept this behavior.
I thought the same too! "Okay? And where's the excitement now, these are all things that happen all the time in casting shows?" I wouldn't even include the whole generation, rather the body positivity movement. Now these people see how their whole mindset what they propagate on social media doesn't work in practice. Our society is not a liberal art college campus. ~ A former Fat Person
@akiru300 I completely agree with you, if your hired as a professional dancer your expected to be physically capable of keeping up with the dance routines and schedule, it ends up becoming labially that's costing them money in just size increase in the costumes alone. How this ok? It's a business suck it up and deal with it or find a new job where u can be as fat as ur heart desires without consequences
It sounds like these young women expected a safe space because of Lizzo’s message, but ended up being in a very harsh industry and were not secure and mature enough to set boundaries. Absolutely not to victim blame, because I also think it’s Lizzo’s task to prevent this from happening. However, this interview to me doesn’t show ill intent, but rather that Lizzo is in over her head as well. Which is absolutely not an excuse, but understandable. Sounds like she needs better people to support her with this part of the business.
So you mean to tell me those fat dancers got on opportunity of a lifetime and had to get warning emails about their behavior before getting fired? Let's wait for all facts before taking sides
This is some fake bulshit. REAL DANNCER ARE REPLACED MORE THEN YOU KNOW...think about it, if they gain weight, the costume designers would have to re-measure them, and spend hundreds to thousands of dollars to make a new costume for background dancers...WTF... real dancers would have just lost weight or moved on to the next audition and booked the next gig and not goo on TV crying. It's not personal.
@@mattalford3932lol whoa whoa whoa xD Legally speaking. You HAVE to say allegedly to anything thats only been reported and not proven in court... Yet. Once things are proven in court then you don't have to say allegedly
@@nikittaak4723 it is. Because they were being used for their image. She herself said that in interviews. She was looking for girls that looked like her. She criticized their weight, embarrassed them by making them perform sexual acts with strippers in Amsterdam, and acted very unprofessional for a person who virtue signals hard about how the world should be.
@user-ur9xy6ow3i I am not defending Lizzo. She's not my cup of tea, but when you hire a team, you are entitled to look for what you need and want. That's called being a boss and paying workers because they fit your needs, and if they don't, you have every right to fire them
I've watched 3 interviews given by these plaintiffs. I've yet to hear from them a single example where Lizzo explicitly forced them to do anything by threatening to fire them. If "feeling pressured" were grounds for a lawsuit, anyone holding a job would have a case. So much of what's being alleged by the plaintiffs sounds based on 'perception' rather than fact. In a COURT OF LAW I need to know WHAT HAPPENED, not how WHAT YOU PERCEIVED HAPPENED made you FEEL.
lol are you really so naive that you think someone would just say “you’re fat, lose weight or you’re fired”? People are far more subtle than that. You need to spend more time in the real world because your idea of how people act is completely naive 😂
Dancers get replaced all the time and move on to the next audition, to the next job and don't cry about it. Just think about it if they did gain weight this would mean that the costume designer would have to be called back in to retake their measurements and to make a new costumes which could have taken a lot of time and thousands of dollars for a background dancers... They seem completely classless.
Exactly it seems everything is based in feelings. Unfortunately for them their field is competitive and requires hard work and top notch performance. It's business
A hostile work environment, is one where employees feel uncomfortable, scared, or intimidated due to unwelcome conduct. This can include harassment, discrimination, victimization, violence, and other offensive behaviors.
This is fuckin stupid... Dancers and performers get replaced all the time, but they don't go on national TV to cry about it. They just prepare for the next audition. If these women are a real dancers who book jobs, and the topic of your look comes up, just grow up and change your look like all dancers do, like all actors do. When I started out in a professional ballet company, I was asked to lose weight, so I lost the weight for the roll, and to fit the look of the company I was dancing in. When my next gig came up which was a modern dance company I had to build up muscle so I work the fuck out. Girls by grow up. Everything can't be inclusive to fit the world you want to live in. Trust me go out and interview 100 dancers and they all would tell you they had to go in and look the part when auditioning. Secondly, why would you agree to do something or act a certain way that doesn't fit your morals? That's crazy. You just should have said no.
Yep imma be honest I'm very hesitant to believe one side after the Depp vs. Heard case. Although I never believed her, we saw it play out that they were both in the wrong many times only difference was she purposefully tried to ruin him and lied. While also having the people she's friends with lie for her sake.ehile he wanted to handle it outside of the spotlight.
Let’s be clear. These are still allegations. However, if the allegations are true, it’s very disappointing as a fan of Lizzo’s music and advocacy of self love. The truth will always prevail.
NOOOOPE Believe the accusers !! Exactly how you did with all the men who got canceled. Stop with your BS There’s no need for proof there’s no burden of evidence. Don’t start with that ish now.! CANCELLED! Now glue your $&@#$&@$&$! teeth shut. No more speaking privileges for you !!!🫵🤨 Let us handle this ✋😳 No need for your input especially when you’re wrong. KARMA $#&@$!
Soooo what if… she made a comment about big girls weight - with respect to costume or wardrobe? Fat shaming don’t sound like the case now. Another frivolous case to hopefully be settled out of court…
@@Hollyhill917 🤣A comment More like - sexual harassment -body shaming somehow 🤷♂️ -racism -Hostile work environment Watch another video this doesn’t cover it 🕺🕺💃🕺💃💃🕺💃🕺💃 CANCEL LIZZO’s stinky @$$ 🤣🤣🤣🤣💃💃💃💃💃💃
@@nancygomez731there are supposedly more dancers coming out, and a filmmakers that was hired to made a video on Lizzy left after 2 weeks because she could not deal with the toxic things that went on.
So let me get this straight lizzo asked you why you were slacking and lacking and you took it as fat shaming? Honey youre working in the industry its cut throat. Just because she hired plus sized dancers doesnt mean she not gonna have standards. Seeing a lizzo show live they Move the whole time.
I really hope that this isn't due to Lizzo not choosing them for her music Tour! I can understand Lizzo wanting highly disciplined cream of the crop dancers!
Ummmm if you gaining to much damn weight you won’t be able to dance and keep up. I don’t care for Lizzi but if she’s asking you “what wrong, are you ok” probably she’s concerned.
In my opinion, she simply got a bit too comfortable with people she called friends. One of the accusers said that if this was corporate, Lizzo would be fired, but it isn't corporate. It is a group of women that party, work, drink, travel, live, perform together for months on end for tours, isn't it silly to compare?? I have seen interviews with her and her people, I saw the amazon special - she treats her team like friends, like sisters... this explains why the boundaries were blurred so many times. They have all admitted that the dancers did exhibit problematic behavior yet there is no mention of them ever doing anything wrong. Fat shaming? You're a paid performer for a grammy award winning singer - sorry if telling you that you need to lose weight to improve your performance hurts. They're just trying to make it seem like a fat person can't comment on weight but Lizzo can get on stage and perform just fine, full of energy for an hour, so imo, she can. I'm not even a Lizzo fan at all, she panders to the wrong people and this is where it gets her. I'm just genuinely sick of how Pseudo-sensitive this generation is and I'm annoyed that people feel like this will be open season on bigger black women, especially on the internet.
It’s unfortunate that anyone can come out and say things and all of a sudden theyre true. There has been no proof provided, just ‘allegations’ but people always want to believe the ‘victims’ off the bat without even listening to both sides. It is very sad. What is done in darkness will always come to light. We shall see what happens
Let me be very clear, dancers get talked-about, warnings, or pulled in the office for things like gaining weight. Gaining weight means that they would have had to pay thousands of dollars to sew up a new costume for a background dancers...This is crazy, and entitled.
No I don’t think you understand the sexual harassment part. These leftistNews reads trying to down play what happened. Apparently she was heavily coerced to touch the breast of a naked woman. Also the dancers were holding bananas between their legs and they were trying to get them to bite the banana. Also some things with dildos. Highly vulgar sexual BS. Just nasty.
In any other setting it would be, but Lizzo should have that explicitly ad part of her budget given her persona, as well as accounting for weight losses if any.
@@DM-it1qf why though ? If lizzo can stay fit enough to perform, is it crazy to expect her dancers to do this also? Do you know how crazy it sounds to say that they should continue changing the costumes to accommodate her gaining weight lol? ATP, yall making it sound like a fat person has no right to speak on these things or that if you preach body positivty that you can't comment on people's weight. That is not what body positivity is about. I can appreciate and promote your body whilst saying it isn't for me and the task that we have at hand.
@sopsyf2298 It is literally impossible to fully control weight fluctuation. Our bodies go through all sorts of changes that will cause it to retain water and/or gas at different levels at different times, something that we can't fully control and having unreasonable expectations will cause stress that could contribute to the issue and cause a vicious cycle.
Celebrities who preach positivity the most getting accusations of being vile and negative people behind the scenes? No way. Always stick to the rule. If a celebrity preaches about positivity like crazy, it’s totally fine to think that they’re horrible people behind the scenes.
I'm sorry but this is bogus! Disgruntled employees are retaliating! She clearly stated SHE went to the strip club to be good enough for Lizzo!! SHE gave in to the pressure to reach out and touch a nude man! She's grown, she's not a child, and because u regret something u did doesn't mean it's someone else's fault! She stated that Lizzo said dancers are fired for gaining weight, which is very true! Just because it hurts ur feelings doesn't mean it's false! She said Lizzo DID NOT fat shame her directly and asked her what's wrong bcuz she didn't seem like herself... That's a legitimate question for anyone and especially an employer to ask when looks and ur ability to perform well matter in that industry, even in 2023! They were accused and reprimanded for drinking before a show and then let go! If they still had the job, they wouldn't be crying Lizzo is mean! Sorry for my unpopular opinion! Oh and Lizzo is the TALENT! You are there and signed up to back her up period!
@@PostClarity7 victim of what??!! Getting ur feelings hurt and being fired! Even if Lizzo isn't a positive person in real life, that's not a crime, or a lawsuit!
I think this was an issue of Lizzo got to comfortable with her dancers and viewed them as friends instead of employees. If she told her what's going on with you, are you OK? How does that equate to fat shaming?? Make it make sense girl. It more so sounds like Lizzo saw a change in her performance and was concerned. The Amsterdam thing. If lizzo in the club with people she called her "friends" and she was egging her on to "grab it" or whatever. Most friends specially on girls trips get a little wild. Lizzo went wrong when she assumed these women were her friends. She needed to create boundaries as an employer and not party with her employees. Cause as now I'm sure she sees you can't treat everyone like they are a friend. Not everyone takes jokes the same. Or views you as there friend. But I truly pray for healing for all involved.
Honestly it makes sense when you think about it. Lizzo has shown signs of narcissistic characteristics over the recent years and when you add on to the fact that she also has a cult like following of honestly if we’re gonna keep it real incel like women that praise her like a God and defend her every move all of these allegations kinda make sense and in actuality are not that shocking lol.
No bro this doesn't make sense, I was a professional dancer for many years, now-retired. If they really did gain weight this would mean is that the costume designer would had to have come back and retake their measurements and create new costumes, which would have been hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on the material. For background dancers??? Real dances wouldn't have took it personal, lost the weight or moved on to the next audition and book the next gig.
@@Cole2Les Thank you, I'm shocked no one is mentioning this. Being a dancer for Lizzo would be like a cross between being an athlete and being in pageants. Your appearance is harshly judged, and your seniors will comment if your weight is becoming problematic. Athletes get dumped from teams for less. This girl even says that Lizzo would indiscreetly address her weight which is actually the kinder method to take.
@sopsyf2298 For sure, these dances are lucky they didn't get-Thank you next. When you're living your life as a professional dancer, you know that dance come a dime-a-dozen, and you can be replaced easily, so when you get a gig you work extremely hard to keep it because it leads you to the next gig if you're successful. If they were truly smart, they would have kept their mouths shut and added the Lizzo gig on the resume, because I can only imagine that they don't have many opportunities just because of the way that they look. They don't look like normal dancers who could go to any audition and book multiple jobs . Their appearance is extremely limited. How many artists out there looking for plus-size dancers, no offense.
I think possibly there should have been a clear contract. On what is expected. If your gaining too much weight it will may affect your performance. Also as a artist lesson will be learnt to set your boundaries. You should not be hanging out with your employees. If its true about the other stuff it's disgusting... Its not a good look at all especially when you can lose contracts.
It’s crazy to think that not too long ago she was celebrated for her body positivity and her views towards the industry, all of it was just a mask, we never really knew who Lizzo was, just the facade that she wanted us to believe.
This is what Doja Cat was saying last week, albeit in a rude ass way. Fans shouldn’t LOVE an artist, artists dont have to love fans, we dont know eachother frfr
No double standards here. Women fought long and hard to be like men. So Lizzo will be punished hard like a man. And women can no longer disregard things like this.
a lot of these ppl in the music industry have no morals or respect for themselves. all that's important to them is money, but now a lot of that is about to be taken away from Lizzo and more.
"Another plaintiff claims she felt pressured to “explain her weight gain and disclose intimate personal details about her life in order to keep her job” after the singer questioned her commitment to the dance team, according to the lawsuit." If you were told you are gaining weights i don't consider is as fat shaming. I'm sure these girls were told they must maintain a certain weight standards in order to perform. Nothing is wrong with that. Every jobs have certain requirements to perform. Like some require to be able to lift a certain maximum of weight. The minute can't, then you not fit to perform because you have been required ro do so on your job application and interview.
To be honest dancers and performers have a tough job. The weight gain on this lady is definitely noticeable. She was on lizzos show and she was not the same size as she was. I honestly think the environment she was in contributes to her appearance now. If these things are true. I hope lizzo gets the karma that she deserves
I think they got fired for talking all crazy to Lizzo and being disrespectful in front of everyone at that one meeting where they were accused of drinking. Am I understanding this correctly? Did they think they were going on a Kirk Franklin tour?? You know Lizzo and how she moves. There are not a lot of opportunities for big girl dancers. Lizzo gave them that. I am sorry but they sound entitled.
Think those girls are bitter for getting fired. Cry me a river and I see $$$.. Lizzo, she's no class act, but it's her work inviorment he who pays makes the rules, don't like your boss get another job, this is a free country
Unfortunately Lizzo became the product for the industry to target large plus size women, preying on their insecurities, such as their weight. Lizzo played her part in supposedly loving her weight, body. But if you see through her she never did. She became a powerful token but instead to use her power to really empower all women, she abused her dancers and treated them, demeaning them, the way society would. What came out of this is that, Lizzo isn’t only a big woman with a nice smile, but a woman who abused her power to mistreat other woman that look like her. To all women, love yourself. There is no need to put any celebrity on a pedestal to seek your own validation. Validate you for you ❤
Lizzo will settle out of court just to keep them quiet with some NDA’s from all this further mess…undisclosed amount. About $250k/ea not a lot of money, chump change for Lizzo; employment insurance will pay for it - take that and just go. Lizzo’s atty’s are not even gonna allow this to get to a courtroom. How much are each of these girls conspiring (clears throat) I mean alleging this fault is? They’re not gonna get nearly of what they’re asking for, but this type of stuff is why Beyoncé, MJ, Prince, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, athletes, actors and actresses have such a difficult time trusting becoming friends on a personal level with their employees bc being left open vulnerable allowing someone to come in and start a smear campaign against you when being a backup dancer, going on tour, and being on TV around the world just wasn’t enough - they’ve gotta make up stuff; and you can tell they’re lying bc they use these common phrases such as: gaslit, unaware, unknowingly, forced into, felt pressured, etc… 🙄 I’m not a Lizzo fan…I dont have one jam of hers in my playlist. In fact, I’m more of a classic rock black chick…The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Prince, Bob Dylan, etc…even these bands have dealt with the same CRAP! She is gonna have employment training and making sure that new hire manual is air tight bc Lizzo is not only representing herself…she represents the management, record label, attorneys, current employees, HER FANS, and all of their families! That’s a lot of pressure and yes it comes along with the territory but morally this is very very wrong! It is going to be difficult for these girls to find employment with these types of accusations. I know someone who’s lawsuit happy and no one can trust to say anything around that person bc if it. They see or hear one thing and just take off to the moon never to come back with the correct version! I’m sorry Lizzo!
I don’t understand how a “large” woman can “ fat shame” other women??? I think young artists today ( not all of course,) rise to fame quickly, and don’t know how to be good employers, or leaders. She sounds very immature to me!!
ALLEGEDLY. Highly doubt any of this is true. Lizzo preaches self love. She probably got mad because she was fired for gaining weight or whatever other reason. At the end of the day she was a dancer who had to upkeep the high energy and perform; and she likely did not .
okay, you apply as a backup dancer for a singer that sings about sex and body and then cry on TV for losing your job because you gained weight and you needed to touch bodies with other staff? wait? how is Lizzo in the wrong again?
Hummmm I’m not getting sympathetic. They are definitely giving me big mad , and money hungry vibes. Seems fake. 🤷🏾♀️🙄 … like they was okay with whatever until one got fired & because of that now their going public with more fabrication than truth. Lizzo seems headstrong so let’s not act like arrogance isn’t a trait for headstrong individuals but regardless no I don’t feel sorry for these two grown woman at all. 🤷🏾♀️
Gotta be honest, first time I've ever heard someone trying to cry AND goin "um" every sentence to gather their story. Even the accusations are wild tame, if they had your replacements lined up, it wasn't a spur or the moment thing and you didn't need to go to the strip club to "be enough for lizzo" , so weird.
@@COINsimp2024In Amsterdam, the red light distrct. The performers were nude. The dancers were made to touch and were thrown objects from their private parts to these girls.
First of all, she IS TOO BIG and I would have fired her as well, WATCH YOUR WEIGHT… You’re not on stage go look like a TellyTubby. If you want to eat and get paid to blow up, work at a circus. But when you’re on the road you are EXPECTED TO STICK WITH A PHYSICAL PROTOCOL. That’s normal. But I do believe she prob did abuse them. I don’t find baby female Taurus women kind and mist tend to be psychotic level abusive.
This type of thing happens when you don’t maintain appropriate boundaries with your employees.
People need to understand that that's how it has been done for decades all across the entertainment industry. But this is the first generation not to accept this behavior.
I thought the same too!
"Okay? And where's the excitement now, these are all things that happen all the time in casting shows?"
I wouldn't even include the whole generation, rather the body positivity movement.
Now these people see how their whole mindset what they propagate on social media doesn't work in practice.
Our society is not a liberal art college campus.
~ A former Fat Person
Remember how Madonna was with her dancers? Just watch "Truth or Dare".
@@mariposalaloca8455lmao another person ignoring the message of sexual harassment and instead focusing on the fat shaming🤡 you’re cringe🥴
@akiru300 I completely agree with you, if your hired as a professional dancer your expected to be physically capable of keeping up with the dance routines and schedule, it ends up becoming labially that's costing them money in just size increase in the costumes alone. How this ok? It's a business suck it up and deal with it or find a new job where u can be as fat as ur heart desires without consequences
just bad asses who ain’t afraid of bein vulnerable😙 EVERYONE deserves respect & kindness
It sounds like these young women expected a safe space because of Lizzo’s message, but ended up being in a very harsh industry and were not secure and mature enough to set boundaries. Absolutely not to victim blame, because I also think it’s Lizzo’s task to prevent this from happening. However, this interview to me doesn’t show ill intent, but rather that Lizzo is in over her head as well. Which is absolutely not an excuse, but understandable. Sounds like she needs better people to support her with this part of the business.
In her pervert sex games?
agree w this comment
Agree
The irony is Lizzo probably felt like she could get away with mistreating her dancers because they're big and have fewer opportunities
Bingo!!!!
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IRONY at it's best. You said it.
So you mean to tell me those fat dancers got on opportunity of a lifetime and had to get warning emails about their behavior before getting fired? Let's wait for all facts before taking sides
Lizzo pissed someone off
Exactly bruh. This shit planned and orchestrated by the “powers that be”
Preaching body positivity while allegedly bullying and shaming your employees is certainly........
Body positivity has been a scam it’s the oldest trick in the book & we tried to tell y’all for the longest
This is some fake bulshit. REAL DANNCER ARE REPLACED MORE THEN YOU KNOW...think about it, if they gain weight, the costume designers would have to re-measure them, and spend hundreds to thousands of dollars to make a new costume for background dancers...WTF... real dancers would have just lost weight or moved on to the next audition and booked the next gig and not goo on TV crying. It's not personal.
She wants to be the only one up there on stage ..
Do you say allegedly when a man is accused?
@@mattalford3932lol whoa whoa whoa xD
Legally speaking. You HAVE to say allegedly to anything thats only been reported and not proven in court... Yet.
Once things are proven in court then you don't have to say allegedly
They were the really good dancers with No drama. I believe them
No drama good dancers don't get fired and receive warning emails about their behavior
They were being used by the very person who said had their backs. What a shame
@user-ur9xy6ow3i they were getting paid to work not the same as getting used, now is it?
@@nikittaak4723 it is. Because they were being used for their image. She herself said that in interviews. She was looking for girls that looked like her. She criticized their weight, embarrassed them by making them perform sexual acts with strippers in Amsterdam, and acted very unprofessional for a person who virtue signals hard about how the world should be.
@user-ur9xy6ow3i I am not defending Lizzo. She's not my cup of tea, but when you hire a team, you are entitled to look for what you need and want. That's called being a boss and paying workers because they fit your needs, and if they don't, you have every right to fire them
I've watched 3 interviews given by these plaintiffs. I've yet to hear from them a single example where Lizzo explicitly forced them to do anything by threatening to fire them. If "feeling pressured" were grounds for a lawsuit, anyone holding a job would have a case. So much of what's being alleged by the plaintiffs sounds based on 'perception' rather than fact. In a COURT OF LAW I need to know WHAT HAPPENED, not how WHAT YOU PERCEIVED HAPPENED made you FEEL.
lol are you really so naive that you think someone would just say “you’re fat, lose weight or you’re fired”? People are far more subtle than that. You need to spend more time in the real world because your idea of how people act is completely naive 😂
Dancers get replaced all the time and move on to the next audition, to the next job and don't cry about it. Just think about it if they did gain weight this would mean that the costume designer would have to be called back in to retake their measurements and to make a new costumes which could have taken a lot of time and thousands of dollars for a background dancers... They seem completely classless.
Exactly it seems everything is based in feelings. Unfortunately for them their field is competitive and requires hard work and top notch performance. It's business
THANK YOU
A hostile work environment, is one where employees feel uncomfortable, scared, or intimidated due to unwelcome conduct. This can include harassment, discrimination, victimization, violence, and other offensive behaviors.
You all shouldn't be easily fooled when you hear a story from just one perspective
Aww I feel sorry for both these beautiful women ❤
Before we pass judgment we need to hear both side not just one
This is fuckin stupid...
Dancers and performers get replaced all the time, but they don't go on national TV to cry about it. They just prepare for the next audition. If these women are a real dancers who book jobs, and the topic of your look comes up, just grow up and change your look like all dancers do, like all actors do.
When I started out in a professional ballet company, I was asked to lose weight, so I lost the weight for the roll, and to fit the look of the company I was dancing in. When my next gig came up which was a modern dance company I had to build up muscle so I work the fuck out. Girls by grow up. Everything can't be inclusive to fit the world you want to live in. Trust me go out and interview 100 dancers and they all would tell you they had to go in and look the part when auditioning.
Secondly, why would you agree to do something or act a certain way that doesn't fit your morals? That's crazy. You just should have said no.
Yep imma be honest I'm very hesitant to believe one side after the Depp vs. Heard case. Although I never believed her, we saw it play out that they were both in the wrong many times only difference was she purposefully tried to ruin him and lied. While also having the people she's friends with lie for her sake.ehile he wanted to handle it outside of the spotlight.
Thank you for saying that and innocence till proven guilty.
Lizzo has always seemed sexist though. She objectifies women in her music videos all the time
Already did
Let’s be clear. These are still allegations. However, if the allegations are true, it’s very disappointing as a fan of Lizzo’s music and advocacy of self love. The truth will always prevail.
NOOOOPE
Believe the accusers !!
Exactly how you did with all the men who got canceled.
Stop with your BS
There’s no need for proof there’s no burden of evidence. Don’t start with that ish now.!
CANCELLED!
Now glue your $&@#$&@$&$! teeth shut.
No more speaking privileges for you !!!🫵🤨
Let us handle this ✋😳
No need for your input especially when you’re wrong.
KARMA $#&@$!
Watch the dancers TMZ interview.... After watching that, now I'm firmly on Lizzo's side. They gave off disgruntled employees.
Lizzo is hugely sexist and always has been. She always objectifies women in her music videos. I believe these women
Soooo what if… she made a comment about big girls weight - with respect to costume or wardrobe? Fat shaming don’t sound like the case now. Another frivolous case to hopefully be settled out of court…
@@Hollyhill917 🤣A comment
More like
- sexual harassment
-body shaming somehow 🤷♂️
-racism
-Hostile work environment
Watch another video this doesn’t cover it
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CANCEL LIZZO’s stinky @$$
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My heart really goes out to Lizzo's victims. I wish Arianna and Crystal the best.
Lol you mean to tell me that she made a grown woman do something
I don’t believe them.
@@nancygomez731I do. Lizzo is abusive to herself
@@nancygomez731there are supposedly more dancers coming out, and a filmmakers that was hired to made a video on Lizzy left after 2 weeks because she could not deal with the toxic things that went on.
@michaeldebree4870 you have a right to quit your job anytime and a boss has a right to fire you anytime.
You don't let anyone make you do something you don't want to do. You don't let no one have that much control over you. No job is worth that much.
Sometimes you are not in a position to leave a job.
So true because it will be what else is expected of them. It's disgusting. These are young ladies and we're exposed to so much more.
So let me get this straight lizzo asked you why you were slacking and lacking and you took it as fat shaming?
Honey youre working in the industry its cut throat. Just because she hired plus sized dancers doesnt mean she not gonna have standards.
Seeing a lizzo show live they Move the whole time.
Sexual harassment is serious. Considering it is a club there could be collaborating evidence.
@@sairadha674 I guess we'll see
Lizzie weight shaming people????? Wtf. Lmao. I can’t. I can’t. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Does she own a mirror???
That’s if what they’re saying is true but yes, it can happen
No one should be mistreated in any career
Also, Be grateful for having a job
I really hope that this isn't due to Lizzo not choosing them for her music Tour! I can understand Lizzo wanting highly disciplined cream of the crop dancers!
They were on tour already.
That's exactly what this is!
Yep. They were upset because they got fired.
Ummmm if you gaining to much damn weight you won’t be able to dance and keep up. I don’t care for Lizzi but if she’s asking you “what wrong, are you ok” probably she’s concerned.
In my opinion, she simply got a bit too comfortable with people she called friends. One of the accusers said that if this was corporate, Lizzo would be fired, but it isn't corporate. It is a group of women that party, work, drink, travel, live, perform together for months on end for tours, isn't it silly to compare?? I have seen interviews with her and her people, I saw the amazon special - she treats her team like friends, like sisters... this explains why the boundaries were blurred so many times. They have all admitted that the dancers did exhibit problematic behavior yet there is no mention of them ever doing anything wrong. Fat shaming? You're a paid performer for a grammy award winning singer - sorry if telling you that you need to lose weight to improve your performance hurts. They're just trying to make it seem like a fat person can't comment on weight but Lizzo can get on stage and perform just fine, full of energy for an hour, so imo, she can. I'm not even a Lizzo fan at all, she panders to the wrong people and this is where it gets her. I'm just genuinely sick of how Pseudo-sensitive this generation is and I'm annoyed that people feel like this will be open season on bigger black women, especially on the internet.
It’s unfortunate that anyone can come out and say things and all of a sudden theyre true. There has been no proof provided, just ‘allegations’ but people always want to believe the ‘victims’ off the bat without even listening to both sides. It is very sad. What is done in darkness will always come to light. We shall see what happens
Yes common sense says they are just hurt and broke.
Most reasonable comment here tbh
I am burning my lizzo cd right now . Unacceptable what she did, period
You still buy cd’s?
@@nikki9125believe it or not but a lot of us still buy CDs and vinyls lol! Spotify is fantastic but there is something special about vinyl records! 😊
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@@nikki9125 LOL
I do on Amazon. I have a car that has a cd player
Let me be very clear, dancers get talked-about, warnings, or pulled in the office for things like gaining weight. Gaining weight means that they would have had to pay thousands of dollars to sew up a new costume for a background dancers...This is crazy, and entitled.
No I don’t think you understand the sexual harassment part. These leftistNews reads trying to down play what happened. Apparently she was heavily coerced to touch the breast of a naked woman. Also the dancers were holding bananas between their legs and they were trying to get them to bite the banana. Also some things with dildos. Highly vulgar sexual BS. Just nasty.
In any other setting it would be, but Lizzo should have that explicitly ad part of her budget given her persona, as well as accounting for weight losses if any.
Lol, sure.
@@DM-it1qf why though ? If lizzo can stay fit enough to perform, is it crazy to expect her dancers to do this also? Do you know how crazy it sounds to say that they should continue changing the costumes to accommodate her gaining weight lol? ATP, yall making it sound like a fat person has no right to speak on these things or that if you preach body positivty that you can't comment on people's weight. That is not what body positivity is about. I can appreciate and promote your body whilst saying it isn't for me and the task that we have at hand.
@sopsyf2298 It is literally impossible to fully control weight fluctuation. Our bodies go through all sorts of changes that will cause it to retain water and/or gas at different levels at different times, something that we can't fully control and having unreasonable expectations will cause stress that could contribute to the issue and cause a vicious cycle.
Celebrities who preach positivity the most getting accusations of being vile and negative people behind the scenes? No way.
Always stick to the rule. If a celebrity preaches about positivity like crazy, it’s totally fine to think that they’re horrible people behind the scenes.
I'm sorry but this is bogus! Disgruntled employees are retaliating! She clearly stated SHE went to the strip club to be good enough for Lizzo!! SHE gave in to the pressure to reach out and touch a nude man! She's grown, she's not a child, and because u regret something u did doesn't mean it's someone else's fault! She stated that Lizzo said dancers are fired for gaining weight, which is very true! Just because it hurts ur feelings doesn't mean it's false! She said Lizzo DID NOT fat shame her directly and asked her what's wrong bcuz she didn't seem like herself... That's a legitimate question for anyone and especially an employer to ask when looks and ur ability to perform well matter in that industry, even in 2023! They were accused and reprimanded for drinking before a show and then let go! If they still had the job, they wouldn't be crying Lizzo is mean! Sorry for my unpopular opinion! Oh and Lizzo is the TALENT! You are there and signed up to back her up period!
They have no chance in court.
Thank you for saying this I don't believe this mess.
Sounds a whole lot like victim blaming…smh
@@PostClarity7 victim of what??!! Getting ur feelings hurt and being fired! Even if Lizzo isn't a positive person in real life, that's not a crime, or a lawsuit!
If that had been a man pressuring them into the sexual gestures...
A big girl body shaming another big girl..wth is going on 🤦🏻♂️
I’m sorry to Lizzo’s dancers you have my deepest empathy 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾
Obviously the fame got to Lizzo's head. I feel so bad for these two lovely ladies.
Sorry work sucks sometimes and people get fired. Get over it and move on.
I think this was an issue of Lizzo got to comfortable with her dancers and viewed them as friends instead of employees. If she told her what's going on with you, are you OK? How does that equate to fat shaming?? Make it make sense girl. It more so sounds like Lizzo saw a change in her performance and was concerned. The Amsterdam thing. If lizzo in the club with people she called her "friends" and she was egging her on to "grab it" or whatever. Most friends specially on girls trips get a little wild. Lizzo went wrong when she assumed these women were her friends. She needed to create boundaries as an employer and not party with her employees. Cause as now I'm sure she sees you can't treat everyone like they are a friend. Not everyone takes jokes the same. Or views you as there friend. But I truly pray for healing for all involved.
Amazing how quickly everyone believes she's guilty off of accusations. No proof needed.🤷🏽♀️
Lizzo is big as hell, how dare she
LMFAOO
the fat shaming was “nuanced” and the fat shaming in question was lizzo asking if she was ok… yeah this is bullshit character assassination
Seriously? That’s not fat shaming
I hope she will get what she deserves.
Honestly it makes sense when you think about it. Lizzo has shown signs of narcissistic characteristics over the recent years and when you add on to the fact that she also has a cult like following of honestly if we’re gonna keep it real incel like women that praise her like a God and defend her every move all of these allegations kinda make sense and in actuality are not that shocking lol.
No bro this doesn't make sense, I was a professional dancer for many years, now-retired. If they really did gain weight this would mean is that the costume designer would had to have come back and retake their measurements and create new costumes, which would have been hundreds to thousands of dollars depending on the material. For background dancers??? Real dances wouldn't have took it personal, lost the weight or moved on to the next audition and book the next gig.
@@Cole2Lesit's still harrasment though and she objectifies women and sexually harassed them
@user-bq2ko2tb2w interesting, and do you know this for a fact?
@@Cole2Les Thank you, I'm shocked no one is mentioning this. Being a dancer for Lizzo would be like a cross between being an athlete and being in pageants. Your appearance is harshly judged, and your seniors will comment if your weight is becoming problematic. Athletes get dumped from teams for less. This girl even says that Lizzo would indiscreetly address her weight which is actually the kinder method to take.
@sopsyf2298 For sure, these dances are lucky they didn't get-Thank you next. When you're living your life as a professional dancer, you know that dance come a dime-a-dozen, and you can be replaced easily, so when you get a gig you work extremely hard to keep it because it leads you to the next gig if you're successful. If they were truly smart, they would have kept their mouths shut and added the Lizzo gig on the resume, because I can only imagine that they don't have many opportunities just because of the way that they look. They don't look like normal dancers who could go to any audition and book multiple jobs . Their appearance is extremely limited. How many artists out there looking for plus-size dancers, no offense.
Why not just quit if you were uncomfortable ? People get fired everyday. Some by E-mail. This sounds like retaliation.
Where's the full interview?
I’m sorry but she’s to big to even try to body Shame anyone!!!
So they came out with the allegations after being fired?
Yup and I said girl please they upset for getting fired
They plotted against her that's what they all do so lame.
There just mad they got fired they uust want money
I think possibly there should have been a clear contract. On what is expected. If your gaining too much weight it will may affect your performance. Also as a artist lesson will be learnt to set your boundaries. You should not be hanging out with your employees. If its true about the other stuff it's disgusting... Its not a good look at all especially when you can lose contracts.
It’s crazy to think that not too long ago she was celebrated for her body positivity and her views towards the industry, all of it was just a mask, we never really knew who Lizzo was, just the facade that she wanted us to believe.
It's all an act
This is what Doja Cat was saying last week, albeit in a rude ass way. Fans shouldn’t LOVE an artist, artists dont have to love fans, we dont know eachother frfr
Promoting obesity
No double standards here. Women fought long and hard to be like men. So Lizzo will be punished hard like a man. And women can no longer disregard things like this.
a lot of these ppl in the music industry have no morals or respect for themselves. all that's important to them is money, but now a lot of that is about to be taken away from Lizzo and more.
"Another plaintiff claims she felt pressured to “explain her weight gain and disclose intimate personal details about her life in order to keep her job” after the singer questioned her commitment to the dance team, according to the lawsuit."
If you were told you are gaining weights i don't consider is as fat shaming. I'm sure these girls were told they must maintain a certain weight standards in order to perform. Nothing is wrong with that. Every jobs have certain requirements to perform. Like some require to be able to lift a certain maximum of weight. The minute can't, then you not fit to perform because you have been required ro do so on your job application and interview.
I always felt like Lizzo was a message to the people. ( It's not over until the fat lady sings) now they are ready for her to move along 🤷🏿♀️
If you don’t wanna touch the dancers then don’t touch them. I would’ve laughed out loud if I was the girl next to her… ain’t no way
To be honest dancers and performers have a tough job. The weight gain on this lady is definitely noticeable. She was on lizzos show and she was not the same size as she was. I honestly think the environment she was in contributes to her appearance now. If these things are true. I hope lizzo gets the karma that she deserves
What I read was that the dancers were told they were gaining weights. So Lizzo was not responsible.
They could be lying.
Good on you girls.your all beautiful xx
It's so good that they have one another, but sad.
I think they got fired for talking all crazy to Lizzo and being disrespectful in front of everyone at that one meeting where they were accused of drinking. Am I understanding this correctly? Did they think they were going on a Kirk Franklin tour?? You know Lizzo and how she moves. There are not a lot of opportunities for big girl dancers. Lizzo gave them that. I am sorry but they sound entitled.
You know everyone is a victim
0:19 girl you’re so pretty that girl is twice your size,the audacity that she had is all bc the ppl who love to sugar coat everything.
Think those girls are bitter for getting fired. Cry me a river and I see $$$.. Lizzo, she's no class act, but it's her work inviorment he who pays makes the rules, don't like your boss get another job, this is a free country
Who cares, Lizzo L.
Believe All Women?😂
Unfortunately Lizzo became the product for the industry to target large plus size women, preying on their insecurities, such as their weight.
Lizzo played her part in supposedly loving her weight, body. But if you see through her she never did. She became a powerful token but instead to use her power to really empower all women, she abused her dancers and treated them, demeaning them, the way society would.
What came out of this is that, Lizzo isn’t only a big woman with a nice smile, but a woman who abused her power to mistreat other woman that look like her.
To all women, love yourself. There is no need to put any celebrity on a pedestal to seek your own validation. Validate you for you ❤
Lizzo will settle out of court just to keep them quiet with some NDA’s from all this further mess…undisclosed amount. About $250k/ea not a lot of money, chump change for Lizzo; employment insurance will pay for it - take that and just go. Lizzo’s atty’s are not even gonna allow this to get to a courtroom. How much are each of these girls conspiring (clears throat) I mean alleging this fault is? They’re not gonna get nearly of what they’re asking for, but this type of stuff is why Beyoncé, MJ, Prince, Britney Spears, Taylor Swift, athletes, actors and actresses have such a difficult time trusting becoming friends on a personal level with their employees bc being left open vulnerable allowing someone to come in and start a smear campaign against you when being a backup dancer, going on tour, and being on TV around the world just wasn’t enough - they’ve gotta make up stuff; and you can tell they’re lying bc they use these common phrases such as: gaslit, unaware, unknowingly, forced into, felt pressured, etc… 🙄 I’m not a Lizzo fan…I dont have one jam of hers in my playlist. In fact, I’m more of a classic rock black chick…The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Prince, Bob Dylan, etc…even these bands have dealt with the same CRAP! She is gonna have employment training and making sure that new hire manual is air tight bc Lizzo is not only representing herself…she represents the management, record label, attorneys, current employees, HER FANS, and all of their families! That’s a lot of pressure and yes it comes along with the territory but morally this is very very wrong! It is going to be difficult for these girls to find employment with these types of accusations. I know someone who’s lawsuit happy and no one can trust to say anything around that person bc if it. They see or hear one thing and just take off to the moon never to come back with the correct version! I’m sorry Lizzo!
I believe everything but the fat shaming that part to me seem more of her insecurities but idk
I dont know how to feel about this
Lizzo was always meant to be the largest on stage in order to stand out
What a deviant woman this Lizzo is…she needs to be cancelled yesterday..Period!
Sounds like folks are fishing
Surviving Lizzo 😊😊😊
Not sure how I feel about this. I really don’t think Lizzo is the woman to cultivate a toxic work environment.
I believe them and I support them as I believe most people do.
But they want to go on season 2. 😅😅😅
The fact lizzo fat shames others is just wild ! Does she fat shame so others wouldn’t be as fat as she is ? What ?
Most women who shout I'm a big and I'm proud, are the complete opposite.. big and bitter.
I don’t understand how a “large” woman can “ fat shame” other women??? I think young artists today ( not all of course,) rise to fame quickly, and don’t know how to be good employers, or leaders. She sounds very immature to me!!
Fat shaming a crime? Does it fall under discrimination?
Makes sense. Black people often are most 'racist' towards other black people.
ALLEGEDLY. Highly doubt any of this is true. Lizzo preaches self love. She probably got mad because she was fired for gaining weight or whatever other reason. At the end of the day she was a dancer who had to upkeep the high energy and perform; and she likely did not .
okay, you apply as a backup dancer for a singer that sings about sex and body and then cry on TV for losing your job because you gained weight and you needed to touch bodies with other staff? wait? how is Lizzo in the wrong again?
Wow.
Lizzo calling her dancers fat ? Omg did lizzo looked herself in the mirror???!
Everybody come down these are just allegations...they might not be true or might be... People already passing judgement
Hummmm I’m not getting sympathetic. They are definitely giving me big mad , and money hungry vibes. Seems fake. 🤷🏾♀️🙄 … like they was okay with whatever until one got fired & because of that now their going public with more fabrication than truth. Lizzo seems headstrong so let’s not act like arrogance isn’t a trait for headstrong individuals but regardless no I don’t feel sorry for these two grown woman at all. 🤷🏾♀️
Gotta be honest, first time I've ever heard someone trying to cry AND goin "um" every sentence to gather their story. Even the accusations are wild tame, if they had your replacements lined up, it wasn't a spur or the moment thing and you didn't need to go to the strip club to "be enough for lizzo" , so weird.
Another soul taken by the devil. Absolutely discusting. Prayers she will find Jesus again. 🙏🙏🙏
My heart breaks 💔for those girls stay strong 💪 as for Lizzo watch out BIG MAMA Karma’s A Bitch!!!!!!
Isn’t her entire brand is been fat and no shame what so ever? This is so just so funny to see how it’s gonna play out
Well her career is over, it was nice while it lasted!
If she weight shamed them she has A LOT OF ROOM TO TALK ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Your girl is hrny. It turned out a mess for her career...
What was the sexual harassment???
Oh my go u so not ready, she forced them to eat bananas out of the sexual parts of s*x workers and forced to touch them and shittt 💀
Forced touch.
@@COINsimp2024 Wow! First time hearing about that! thanks :)
@@COINsimp2024In Amsterdam, the red light distrct. The performers were nude. The dancers were made to touch and were thrown objects from their private parts to these girls.
Forcing her dancers to ear a 🍌 from a strippers v.
M’kay.
Poor me poor us
Nasty. 🤮
She did gain alot of weight she was way skinner did they give her tikebti fix it they should have spoke with her and gave her chance
So that means she didn’t do it this us a money grab you can tell
I hope Lizzo's career is over after this. I'm tired of hearing about her.
We all knew she was a vile human… this just goes to prove it.
You mean fat and had the gall to show off her body.
@IhateBumshave you seen her? It’s obvious to regular people.
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Nooooo!!! Lol nope!
First of all, she IS TOO BIG and I would have fired her as well, WATCH YOUR WEIGHT… You’re not on stage go look like a TellyTubby. If you want to eat and get paid to blow up, work at a circus. But when you’re on the road you are EXPECTED TO STICK WITH A PHYSICAL PROTOCOL. That’s normal. But I do believe she prob did abuse them. I don’t find baby female Taurus women kind and mist tend to be psychotic level abusive.
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Lol cry me a river 😂 all i hear is what apparently happened but they have no evidence