BEFORE YOU BUY A HONDA HRN216 MOWER, WATCH THIS REVIEW!
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BEFORE YOU BUY A HONDA HRN216 MOWER, WATCH THIS REVIEW! In the market for a NEW LAWN MOWER? HONDA makes one of the BEST mowers out there! In this unsponsored video, I go over the CUT QUALITY, FUEL EFFICIENCY, CONTROLS, FEATURES, the HONDA ENGINE and more. I even give each category a grade to help you determine if this is the BEST mower for your LAWN! Find out this mower's STRENGTHS and WEAKNESSES BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT LAWN MOWER. LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!
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Hello JB: I have been Restoring, repairing and maintaining Honda lawn mowers for 10 years now. Recently, I have had two HRN216VKA mowers (from two of my neighbors). Both Honda mowers were suffering from two conditions. 1. Hard to start, it took 3 to 5 pulls to start the engine. 2. Poor idle quality after engine warm up and idle surge. I first tested the "Thermowax" assembly (which you call in your video the Auto-Choke actuator, Honda calls it "Thermowax") functionality and the auto-choke functioned fine on both mowers. Based on my years of small engine repair, hard starting and idle surge is almost always a Carburetor issue. So I fired up my Ultrasonic cleaner machine and removed the Carburetor from one of the HRN216's. Dissembled the Carb, removed the jet, emulsion tube (or main nozzle), float assembly (plus needle), removed the Phillips screw on the top of the carb. and did not remove the idle mixture set screw (really no need to do this). Placed the Carb body, Jet and emulsion tube into the Ultrasonic cleaner and out it thru 4 4-minute cleaning cycles. One note here, the jet and emulsion tube were clogged up pretty good due to Unleaded Ethanol gas the neighbors use. Anyway, assembled the Carb back up and installed back on the GCV170 and the GCV170 started easily the first pull with very little effort and the idle quality was like Music. So that's my story and I'm sticking to it. I hate to burst your bubble and just so you know, it's almost never a "Thermowax" assembly issue, as you call it the Auto-Choke actuator. I'm also a member of the Facebook group called "Honda Lawn Mower Fan Club" if you ever want to stop in some time.
Thanks for sharing Chris!
I was reluctant to watch your video at first. Too much enthusiasm is what I thought. Oh boy, this guy sounds like a high energy marketing guy. I watched the video anyway because i just bought a Honda lawn mower. Glad I did. Your video was excellent. Provided great information and to the point. I also liked that you summed up some viewer comments about issues. Thumbs up. Great video. Subscribed
Hey Casual Citizen! Hahaha I know I got a lot of energy! Years of teaching fitness classes! I like to keep my videos to the point and do my best to clear up misconceptions. Thanks for subscribing! I won’t let you down! 👍
JB Great video as always! Update with my mower, it still starts up and runs, but it’s always the 2nd pull now. Something to easily deal with but still running like a champ and cutting like a beast! Thanks for all the great lawn and machine care videos! Always looking forward to them!
Hey Jor! Good to hear my friend. No problem! Got a handful of small engine repairs coming in a few weeks so stay tuned for those. Thanks for being a cool fan! 👍
We bought a Craftsman push mower with a Kohler engine 15 years ago and it is still going strong, starts on the first pull. I do a yearly oil change and filter change. Every 2 years I change the spark plug. Yes my maintenance schedule may be a little excessive but I like to look after my stuff with zero break downs. My next mower will either be a Honda or a Toro lawn mower. Plus it will be a self propelled.
@@MarkK01 ROCK ON Mark! 👍
Amazing mower. Picked up today and only used once but it’s a breeze to operate. The mulching feature is phenomenal. I don’t see a need to use the bag at all except for maybe the fall with leaves. Smooth running like a Cadillac and not fatiguing at all. You can cut all day with this thing.
Hey TDZ! Congrats on your purchase! These mowers really are the full package! Thanks for sharing and watching !
Bought one in March of 2023 nice mower ,my first Honda. Very happy. Just need to adjust smart drive lil bit any tips? Thanks.
Nice review covering all the bases.
Puzzled why you linked to the 16620-Z8D-305 Thermo Wax Assembly. Parts parts manual for the HRN216 series shows a 16620-Z9L-003 part number. Interchangeable?
I'd rate the engine higher as I think Honda has worked out the GCV170 kinks. I've run mine for about 2 hours, which is normal for my entire lawn, in about half hour increments, so more time will tell. Numerous engine restarts while stopping to pull and replace small utility line flags in the easement (neighbor is having gas utility line added). Much more fuel efficient compared to the 15 yr old Craftsman with B&S engine I'd used until last week. Overly tall damp grass will leave an intermittent slight trail of clippings but not nearly the huge clump trail the old Craftsman created, and unlike the Craftsman it didn't stick to the underside of the deck which I had to clean out occasionally if it was clumping.
Discovered during research on the HRN216 series that engine surging and possible stalling can occur if the fuel cap breather is clogged or plugged - not allowing air into the tank as fuel is consumed. Breather is part of the rubber diaphragm in the gas cap, which can be pulled out. Small hole (~3/16") in center and foam filter plug on the cap (under) side of it to keep dust/dirt out of fuel. Poking objects through the hole can damage the foam filter - remove diaphragm to inspect/unplug it. Apparently a few diaphragms got out of the factory with no small hole in them. Easily fixed.
About Honda Quality in General:
I worked for nearly 20 years for a major OEM auto components manufacturer. Honda was among the myriad of customers in US, Europe and Asia. They have been among the most stringent regarding quality for decades. Honda and Toyota brought the US auto industry to its knees and drove the Big Three to take quality very seriously. Honda prides itself on building product and manufacturing quality into its designs - so that you get flawless, reliable and durable product off the end of the line without having to "inspect it in" with rejects and rework - or worse yet with warranty repair claims. As a components supplier they held our feet to the fire for perfect components. Delivering just one defective part was a Big Deal. Quality for them is holistic covering every aspect of a product. (Toyota is the same - it's a corporate culture.)
Hey jlind! Thanks for sharing this info! Amazon doesn’t seem to have the actuator listed for this model but I have used others with no issues. I think it’s a great think that Honda is so stringent on their parts quality! Thanks for watching!👍
I just got this mower and am super excited to give it a go! I did do a few passes on my dormant Bermuda with the bagger, as I would do every year around this time to scalp the bermuda just before it starts to green up. Noticed that it blows a LOT of clippings out the top of the bag where the cowl meets the bag on the top and figured I must have done something wrong when putting it together, although I don't think I did. Hoping that's just due to the dry Bermuda clippings and once it greens up it will bag better but I'm not so sure at this point. It was pretty bad. . .
Hey David! Thanks for sharing! I have not seen that issue on mine but you you may want to check to make sure your top flap is down all the way! 👍
I just scrapped a 14 year old troy bilt. Deck rusted out. Had a Honda motor. I changed oil each year and little else. From day one, to the last, it would start on first pull every single time.
Thanks for sharing Patty! 👍
Thank you 🙏 from Houston Texas awesome video I just subscribed great information didn’t even know I had a discharge in the back just bought it two weeks ago and I was fixing to return it but it’s a keeper 😃🙌🏽
Awesome Juan! Glad this video helped you out! Thanks for being a fan of the channel!
I had that exact lawn mower. it was fantastic. I used it 25 years. now I have the one with the plastic deck. it has more features and is very quiet. it works equally as well with a bigger engine.
Hey John! Honda makes a great machine! The cut quality on these is truly superior! Thanks for watching! 👍
@@GarageGear you're welcome. I use to bag and it cuts finely. Now I just mulch. Always starts first pull, even after 20 years. Much better than the toros I've owned.
@@johnnybwrlr983 I agree I like the cut on this more than the timemaster too!
Thank you soo much for sharing all this information… I just buy mine a week ago and can’t wait to used it… I will be unboxing this weekend or today👍🏻👊🏻….. Let’s see …..😊
Awesome! Did you get an end of season deal on it? Thanks for sharing!
Great video JB! I’ve had a Honda HRX 217 for several years. Awesome mower. My son has it now….long story. It replaced my John Deere anniversary addition (that I gave to my niece) and with the double blade system gives an incredible cut. Really nice review! Cheers neighbor!
Thanks Jay! The HRX is also a great mower! My dad has one and he loves it! Cuts very well! You really can’t go wrong with the double blade system! Cheers neighbor! 👍
If you look on consumer reports, Honda is completely dominating the walk behind mowers category. I got mine two years back, it is the electric starter model. I am pretty happy with it, it does a really good job on my lawn.
Awesome BCSERK! I did a survey recently too to see what brand of mower most people had and over 33% said they had a Honda! They make a great machine! 👍
It’s a great mower, when it’s working. I’ve had mine since 2020 and I’m always working on it. I’m on the second carb, 3 wax plug and it’s super finicky which has it likes. I have to use premade can fuel.
Thanks for sharing
JB, as always great content my man! I literally just came back from Lowe's and purchased this same unit based on the strength of this review. I've been itching to upgrade from my current Ryobi 40v, and I've been going back and forth between the Toro 22 recycler and this Honda mower. This video definitely tipped the scale in Honda's favore. I'm guessing they owe you a finders fee 🤣
Thanks a lot for the positive feedback David! You’ll really be impressed with the gas mileage on the Honda! I use just over half a tank to mow 10000 sf! Who needs batteries when you’re using such little fuel! Still waiting on my check from Honda lol! Thanks for being a cool fan!
@@GarageGear my yard is a shade under 5k 😎
@@DavidTheLawnDaddy Cool David! You should be getting at least 2 mows per tank! 👍👍
Good video!
Count this guy in as your latest subscriber!😎👍
I've had my Honda mower, ( HRX 217 ) for over ten years now and swear by them.
My only gripe with this model is the key/electric start. I went through three previous mowers before giving up and keeping the one I have now. I don't know if it was a bad year back then for Honda's electric starters or what, but these were consistently crapping out on me.
Otherwise, the Honda mower cuts, mulches, starts, runs and handles great!
Thanks for sharing Steve and welcome to the tribe! Honda really knows how to make a mower! In my experience I’ve only see electric starters work for a couple of years and then they fail. Quick money maker for a lot of companies because they usually live just past the warranty lol! Thanks for watching!
I bought a Honda self-propelled mower when we bought our house in 1985. I have about 1 acre of grass and for the longest time that is all I used until I bought a ride-on. I kept the Honda for getting into places the ride-on couldn't or as a back up when the ride-on went into service (BTW, I'm on my 3rd ride-on). The Honda was made in Japan and has an aluminium deck and every year it starts on the first pull, although it does smoke a bit until it warms up. The only thing wrong with it after 38 years, with really no maintenance, is the compression is a bit low, which causes it to stall when the grass is long and wet. Unfortunately, mowers aren't made this well anymore, not even Honda's.
Thanks for sharing this hw! Great that you have kept it around that long! 👍
i have the HRX 200cc, Troy Bilt Honda 160cc, Honda trimmer HHT25s. these Honda motors i have are reliable, powerful, great cutters, ez maintenance, smart, supersaver on fuel etc. they are not perfect, nothing is, but for me it feels good working with a Honda, customer sees good machines cutting their grass, will quickly put a smile on their face, truth.
Definitely great machines Anghulimal. Thanks for watching!
Hey JB Awesome review on the Honda HRN 216 mower I like your comparison to a Honda Civic. This is the kind of review I like to see on a piece of equipment you put it through a test to see what it is capable of and to me thats is important. When most lawn mower companies do a demo on there product its usually on a perfect lawn with out obstacles like uneven surface, damp grass etc. Your review is on an average home owners lawn that is not always perfect. I do like the micro dual blade feature that mulches the grass into very fine pieces for bagging also the self drive system looks super easy to control. Its good to hear that it is fuel efficient especially with the gas prices we are dealing with. Thanks for this review i am currently looking into upgrading to a new mower so now I will consider one of these mowers Honda does make great engines. Catch you on the next one. 👍
Hey backwoods! This is outstanding mower for the money! You really can’t go wrong with it. I had a commercial 21” mower years ago and this one cuts better! I also like to give them a good amount of time before I review them to what they’re really like! Thanks for watching my friend!
Prior to seeing your video, but after doing my own research, I had settled on this mower. Now that I have seen your review I will definitely pull the trigger. Not sure it has already been mentioned but the likely reason for the shorter bag length is due to the rear wheel drive system, as a longer bag may cause the front wheels to lose contact with the ground.
That could be a possibility. Thanks for sharing. Enjoy the mow when you get the mower!
This is what I needed to see. I’ve been wanting to buy this mower! I currently have a cub cadet self propelled mower, and it’s mediocre at best. Misses several strands, and gets bogged down. can’t go wrong with a Honda
Hey Ty! Thanks for sharing some info on your cub cadet and thanks for watching! 👍
My neighbor is moving to a retirement community and gave me hers. It had been sitting in her backyard for a couple years, I emptied the gas tank, and put in a new carb, filter, gas lines, and spark plug. Started the first pull. Engine oil looks good but I'm going to change it.
Awesome! You’re gonna a have a brand new machine practically!
You are the reason why i bought a honda hrn lawn mower. Haha ive watched every video you have just on my wifes account because she was the one logged in to the tv. Haha everything you did on your mower i did to mine! Except the hour meter i guess. Haha hopefully i end up in the white board!
Awesome my friend! Can’t go wrong with this Honda! I’ll have some more videos coming up with it. Just got to get through a pile of equipment tune ups in the garage first! Thanks for being a cool fan! 👍👍
Okay I am going to give you my review on my version of this mower. I have the same one except mine has the clutch so you have to engage the blades which is a great safety feature. This is my 3rd season of owning this mower and it gets a 5 in every category except the bag. You are right, the bag is to small and has to be emptied more than I like. I bag ALL my clippings because I like a neat looking lawn every week. Other than that, this has been and is a great mower.
Hey Peter thanks for sharing! This is a great mower all around! Appreciate your thoughts on this mower! 👍
@@jeremynguyen2346 I filmed this the first week of April when it was cooler out.
@@jeremynguyen2346 👍
@@GarageGear The larger Honda mower bags fit no problem and is what I use with it! The only problem is, and the reason I believe that they cut it short, is that it then wheelies really badly when 3/4 full. I fixed this by adding 5 lbs of adhesive weights to the very front to counterbalance. The mower is just too light at the front for a full size bag.
@@TH4RG3 good info here! Thanks for sharing!
Just got one with the Roto-Stop and love it.
Got one before they are gone forever.
My Honda dealer said they'd sell them for 1-2years max before Honda stops making mowers.
Thanks for sharing Jamy!
The larger Honda mower bags fit no problem and is what I use with it! The only problem is, and the reason I believe that they cut it short, is that it then wheelies really badly when 3/4 full. I fixed this by adding 5 lbs of adhesive weights to the very front to counterbalance. The mower is just too light at the front for a full size bag.
Thanks for sharing my friend!
I just picked up a brand new one today at Lowes. Fill it up with the supplies oil. Will be breaking it in on Saturday morning 🙂
Good deal my friend! Enjoy your new mower! 👍
Godday to you JB Your is an excellent video as usual , I ' ll buy here in Italy for European markets model HRN 536 VK bag capability is 65 liters (17 US L Gall) . All the rest ( engine , blades, mulching sistem etc etc are the same as yours mover .
Your video and expert advice have convinced me to get this model..By the way 53 Cms equal to your 21 " , but I cannot understand why for USA market the bag is so small ad limited....
Hey Giuseppe! Not sure why either. My guess is the produce them that way as a method of you getting to buy the HRX model because you might want or need the larger bag. That’s my best guess. Thanks for watching as always my friend!
I just mowed with it for the first time today. It is the best lawn mower I’ve used. It is brand new though, so only time will tell how well it holds up. I had a 22” super recycler previously and a craftsman before that. It’s night and day tbh. The toro I had was also the one with 7.25is torque since it was the older model. The new one has a smaller engine and less torque. That is baffling to me because the toro frankly did feel like it slowed down a bit in thick grass. I can’t imagine how the new less powerful copes. That was actually the selling point for me, the honda has significantly more power. I also like the rear wheel drive much more than front wheel drive. The other thing is that it feels like the honda does a much better job at cutting the blade. I believe it creates more suction than the torro and also does a better job at channeling the cuttings into the bag. To be fair, I’m comparing a brand new machine to an old and beat up one. At the end of the day, the homda is just a much better engineered machine. It has more power, better suction, and rear wheel drive. Also, as far as the bag goes, I feel like I emptied out the bag just as often as with the torro. If you’re in the market right now, just get this machine it’s great.
Hey Bear, thanks for sharing your review of this mower! Like you I have seen a variety of mowers and this one is really top notch! Thanks for sharing your details! 👍
It’s been 8 months since your review.
How are you finding it now ?
Is it still as good as it was on day 1?
Hey bear, I had the exact same 7.25 and got this new honda and I had the same experience with it kinda bogging down in taller grass. Can't believe this smaller, less torque is better too. How's ur honda holding up now? . Looks like u posted this about a year ago
@@paulpersons799 it’s holding up great! I’ve had zero problems with it. It is just a year old though. I have to be honest though and say that I did a full lawn renovation last year and haven’t really needed to use it that much because of that. I did though use it to scalp my lawn and I completely dulled up the blade from that which was obviously going to happen. Nothing a bit of sharpening won’t fix. The blade was fine too other than being dulled out, no major kinks or bends. I had no problems starting it up for the first time after winter and so far the few times I’ve used it, it’s done great. Now that my grass is thicker than it’s ever been in some areas, I haven’t noticed any slow down. I will need to mow in 2 days and I’ll pay more attention to the thick areas to be sure so I can let you know. The only criticism I have is that the wheels feel cheap. They work just fine though so I guess it’s no big deal? Overall it is my favorite lawnmower. The only way that could change is if it develops a problem prematurely.
@@RexyFan sorry that I never replied, must have missed it. I just posted an update if you’re still looking for a mower.
I have a 536 HRD HX from 1996 and still starts at first pull, I got it for free 9 years ago from a proffesional gardener, so it had already run for millions of hours :-) In those 9 years I used 3 spark plugs and 3 times new oil, that's it. Don't think there is a better machine out there you can buy, maybe the same one :-) (next spring I will buy a new blade ;-) I think this HRN series are not so strong, the engine will be ok but they saved money making it, less metal more plastic but still a Honda :-) Greetings from Belgium.
The older stuff is far better for sure. I hardly see it available near me. People keep them forever around here. Thanks for sharing your story! Very cool you’re seeing this all the way in Belgium! Thanks for watching!
I'm a Honda fan for sure, but I'd have to give the wheels a two. Honda opted for just a metal bushing on the rear wheels and seemingly no bushing on the fronts, instead of the ball bearings that made their mowers smooth runners.
I totally agree with you on this. I would pay the cost for this feature for sure! Can’t imagine it being super expensive for Honda to implement this either! Thanks for sharing Lawnmower Lady!
Honda mower fan for sure that being said I've only used the Honda HRC216 commercial grade mowers both working for a large landscaping company and my own lawn care side business till all my landscaping tools/equipment were stolen I bought all the high $$ equipment the landscaping company I work for used when I started my side business cuz I knew what I was getting and was comfortable with them but can't afford to replace them so I'm looking for cheaper options that will hold up thanks for the info/video (new sub) would like to see a Toro mower review seems most of the landscaping UA-camrs use them
Hey James! I would like to do a toro review for sure! I definitely want to give their commercial line a try too! Thanks for watching!
Love my Honda power equipment but their self propelled mowers all have the same problem, the rear tire locks up when trying to pull it backwards. The bushing inside wears out and instead of spinning freely it locks up. Honda know she about it and has an upgraded bushing but that fix only lasts a short time too.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing Mike! I’ll keep an eye on this.
I'd like to say that the bag is cut shorter to ensure cut quality. A longer bad means more weight that leads to the front wheels having a tendency to pick up off the ground. I have a Honda mower with the longer bag and I can never fill it to capacity with out it starting to be unbalanced.
Thanks for sharing
Great Video George ! I have a honda push mower used it for 14 years , Im going to get a self propelled mower because of my age , my question is can you use a single blade on this mower , and is it difficult to sharpen a double blade , I do my own maintance
Hey Thomas, this mower is designed for the dual blade system. Unless there is a single blade made to fit I would stick with the single blade as it does a great job mulching up clippings. You can do your research to see if there is a single blade for it. I’m not sure if there is one. Thanks for watching
Guys, I've had this mower since 2020 in the summer and it still runs great! Still runs on the first pull, seldom the second. Changed the oil, needs a new air filter, and I just add gas. Guys, its great. Someone I know bought a brand new craftsman mower and it stopped running within one month. There's a reason Honda sells so many mowers. Amazing mower, no problems with it!
Thanks for sharing this Toni! Honda makes a great machine!
@@GarageGear toro fwd better
@@billybobbob3003 hey Billy! Have you had your fwd for a long time? I find I do a lot of wheel replacements on those vs the rear wheel drive toros. Thanks for watching
@@GarageGear easier to move without engine running just lift up the front wheels, also alot of the time easier to replace stuff on it also it's easier to turn around, i know rwd's better if you are bagging/mowing on hills, but yeah flat yard, FWD all day.
@@billybobbob3003 thanks for sharing!
Good review. I just bought mine today. If I plan on using the rear discharge option more often, do I need to get a higher lift blade? Do they even offer that? Also, does it clog up in wet grass? Thanks
Hey marble! No need for a high lift blade! The dual blade underneath will do a great job. Rips through wet grass! Thanks for watching!
QUESTION: I have a lumpy bumpy yard, thanks to my friendly neighborhood moles.
Does the Smart Drive system work smoothly with a bumpy yard, or does it speed up/slow down when encountering such conditions?
My HRX has a set it and forget it drive system.
Hey blain! The hard you push down the faster you go on the hrn! You can let up at any moment to slow down! Thanks for watching
Honda mowers are the best. I have a Honda Pressure washer, Honda push Mower, Honda Civic, and needing a Honda self propelled mower. This model is the one
i will purchase as of this weekend. I Have NEVER EVER had any problems with Honda products in over 25 years. Husband Appreciation Day is this weekend, and i'm
getting this mower. You meet some of the nicest people behind a Honda self propelled mower.
💯agree Toby! Thanks for sharing
I bought my Murray 20 3.5 HP Tecumseh 40 years ago I never experienced any issue with it I never changed the plug or air filter I only changed oil few times and always will start up with first pull. I know that it will last 20 more years.
Thanks for sharing Z
I came across your videos last year the one where you put an hour meter on your honda. I purchased that mower based on your recommendation. It's the best mower I've ever owned. Thanks.
Hey Top Secret! Thanks for watching another video! Awesome that you went with the Honda! It’s a great mower for the price! What do you like most about it! Thanks for sharing!
@@GarageGear if you get a chance chickanic put up a video talking about the problems with this mower. She advises everyone to avoid this mower even though I haven't had any issues with it.
@@badtothebone346 thanks for sharing my friend! I just saw it. She’s mainly talking about a best shroud or lack there of and the back plastic panel. I understand where she’s coming from but if the owner takes care of this model you shouldn’t see issues. Like you, I haven’t had any issues either. Good to know though.
By far the BEST VIDEO I've seen on this specific lawnmower. I'm sold on this one thanks to your review!
Get it while you can at your local Home Depot. Thanks for watching!
Hi, I could be wrong but I think the shorter grass catcher is designed that way is because if it was longer, the mower would tend to '"wheelie'' up with all the weight of that grass toward the rear of mower.
You are absolutely right! 👍
Got a question on the choke actuator for the Honda hrn216. The one you provided the link for doesn't specify the Honda hrn216 in the description nor does it specify the gcv170 engine would that still be the right part? Thanks.
You can search it by your model but it should work. Pretty sure they are all the same! 👍
I am looking to replace my mower. I did my homework for the one I have and its just wore out. The Both the throttle and start cables broke so its time to get a new one. This mower is expensive but in the long run I think it will be worth the additional amount. Are there any thoughts of buying a protection plan for it? The video was VERY Helpful
Hey Bob! I never buy those protection plans. Usually the equipment if cared for can outlast those payments and would end up being a waist of money. Thanks for watching!
Hey JB Since you had the chance to use both the hrn216 and the hrx217 which one do you feel is the best option.
I also can’t wait to watch your review on the ariens razor 21 . I will need to buy a lawnmower soon but can’t decide between those 3
Thank you for all your great videos !!!
Hey juan! I would go HRX if you asking the money. Few better features on that one. Even a bigger bag. The first ariens review comes out this Saturday. Stay tuned. 👍👍
Informative videos...Also you inspired me to winterize my lawn mower in your other video. Thanks.
Awesome thanks for the positive feedback Martin! Your smart for doing so! Thanks for watching!
I have a dumb (to most) question. I like to push my mower and use the drive when I need it (I'm old and need the exercise). Can you do that with the HRX21K6VKA or does it "click/cause issues"? I'm hoping this model will allow it. I believe it's belt-driven
This model will be fine for that! Thanks for watching speed racer!
Did Honda fix the issues with the rear wheels locking up when trying to move it backwards? I have an older Honda HR216 that does this. It's apparently a known design flaw with some bushings on the rear axle. I want to get a new mower but this issue makes me second guess getting another Honda. Thanks
Hey Jesse! No issues on mine. I did hear about this on some past models but have not heard this being a problem with the current ones. Thanks for watching!
I’m thinking of upgrading my 10 year old hrr216vka to the new HRX217HYA Honda sells! My hrr wheels go bald every season. Debating. I think the nexite deck is great, larger wheels is good, and hydrostatic movement is great.
All great features on the HRX! Why not go for it! You’ll enjoy the mow! 👍Let me know if you go for it!
@@GarageGear and hydrostatic like my snowblower
@@appleztooranges Honda makes great machines! Gotta get my hands on one of their snowblowers!
Honda mowers are amazing. Once you go Honda, there is no other....in my opinion at least. I tried using an EGO has a second mower and it just couldn't compete with the way my Honda cuts. So I returned it. Thankfully Lowes has a solid return policy.
Returned my ego blower! That blower was terrible and dead in just a few minutes! Thanks for watching!
Owned a CCV160 since about 2008. Engine still starts on first pull. I literally ran the wheels off it.
Thanks for sharing! That’s awesome my friend!
It’s likely just me but I would prefer none of the “computer generated music you have on this channel”. I just find it annoying. Good information and personal experience detail is very welcome. How did you get the mower to look so clean and shiny? Thanks!
@@richardmorse5307 hey Richard here is a link to how I clean my mowers HOW TO CLEAN A LAWN MOWER DECK AFTER YOU USE IT (Good, Better & BEST Methods)
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I have a question and am at the crossroads. I need to get a new mower asap . I have 3/4 of an acre to mow. I have my eye on the Honda HRX 217 HYA and the Milwaukee battery powered mower. Honda is $1,000.00 and the Milwaukee is $1099.00 with 2 , 12 volt batteries. Which one would you go for?
I’d go with the Honda flyin! There’s no way those two batteries get that yard mowed in one cut. You’ll need extras and that will cost you! And even if they do they’ll only last you a couple of years and you’ll be buying new ones. Thanks for watching
Do you recommend this over the Toro smartstow super recycler? Im on the fence between these two, Toro is pricier but I had read some have sputtering issues with the briggs motor.
Hahah funny you ask! I have a video coming out on that mower tomorrow morning. Stay tuned and let me know if you have any questions after checking it out. 👍
I'm in South Florida, my Honda gets some serious mileage. Twice a week in the summer and 2-3 mows a month the rest of the year.After 5 years she still starts on the first pull.
Awesome to hear Dan! Thanks for sharing! 👍 are you still cleaning up a bit after that hurricane?
@@GarageGear Luckily I'm in Miami and the storm missed us but I will heading over to the west coast to help out some friends. Thanks for asking, have a good one!
@@dantheman227 you got it my friend! 👍
Great reviewJB. Although I've never owned a Honda lawn mower, I've certainly heard a lot of good things about them.
I wasn’t sold on them long ago. Now I totally am! Great machines with awesome cutting capabilities! Thanks for watching another Robert!
I have a Honda hrc216 commercial mower. I just replaced the blade and changed the oil. It's starts up like I just bought it. I also bought the hrn216 as a backup.
@@TrungNguyen-zq5lk you are set for life my friend! 👍
I saw that a bunch of these have serious issues on the Chickanic channel. She has several at her shop with problems unfortunately. I was looking at getting this one as an option to get rid of the Timemaster.
No issues on my end to report! Going on year three now! Thanks for sharing!
I don't have a fancy yard, just need a reliable mower to cut my yard in Florida. Looked at Ryobi but they jack the prices up in my area..... Thinking this mower might be good enough.
Can’t go wrong with this mower! Been reliable for me for the last two years!
Question for you. How does this honda mower compare to the honda commercial lawn mower? Is it worth the extra money to get the commercial one? For a landscaping business to give u context.
I'm using a non self propelled older honda mower and a 22 inch self propelled lawn mower at the moment. Was looking to add a 3rd.
The commercial mower will have more durable components throughout. Worth the investment.
HRN version over here. There needs to be a recall. Honda has put a full shelf pull of these because of ongoing problems. Bent-malfunctioning camshaft that makes the pull chord stuck or hard to pull. No warranty solution as of yet. STEER CLEAR of these and register yours in case there’s a solution in the future.
Thanks for sharing
Hello JB! Thank you for all the videos you've done. After all the research and watching, I'm probably gonna go with the Honda! My one question though, when you turn it on the side, can it stay on it's side for storage reasons, or does it need to be kept flat.
Not sure if it leaks oil or gas while left sideways
If you tip the mower with oil spout down you can tip it on its side that way. Not the other way around. I wouldn’t recommend it for long term storage.
Thank you for the response man. Here's to hoping Honda returns one day to America someday
@@RichardDiSmoke you got it my friend! 👍👍
I skipped on one because I saw a review of these mowers being sent back because they don’t have a blade shroud underneath where the band turns the blade. After a while grass clippings just cake up the band and related components.
Hey Gomez, these mowers have a really small metal belt guard underneath. No issues though on mine with standard mows. If you’re using this mower to cut many yards and varying terrain I would probably be concerned. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the reviews. After all of your various reviews on this mower, I chose to buy it last week and am loving it. Gotta buy a striper next!
Awesome David! You won’t be disappointed with it! Plenty more videos to come on this mower! Stay tuned my friend!
Put green fuel tab in your gas
watch how quiet it goes and how much less gas it uses as well as prevent from carbon deposit and engine runs cooler
I will look into this! Thanks for sharing Hung!
What is a green fuel tank ?
If you mow your yard wet the grass will clump up under it and get in the drive belt and jam up. its a job to fix it it will take about an hour to fix. the older mows didn;t have the big opening so they didn;t have the problem I say they will have to redesign the deck to make a smaller opinging.
Thanks for sharing Lewis but I have mowed my grass when it’s wet a handful of time even on video but had no issues with this. Thanks again for sharing!
I just purchased this mower last week. I can't wait to use it this weekend! I finally broke down and replaced my 15 year old Lawn Boy Briggs & Stratten. The engine was still working, but everything else was shot. Informative vid!
Awesome Doug enjoy the mow!
Man this is a great review, I'm trying to decide between the HRX217 and the HRN216 thanks for the video!
The bag/mulch lever on the HRX is a really nice feature I wish I had. Rubber wheels and better bearings too. Bigger engine. For what you’re getting I would consider those!
When its time to replace my mower I was thinking of getting something with a Honda engine. Hopefully that's a while down the road!
I think you got some time! Isn’t your current mower relatively new? Can’t go wrong with a Honda engine.👍
I got a Craftsman Mower on Craigslist for only 75 bucks. The Honda engine and sharpened blade works amazing. As long as it has a Honda engine, it will be a good one.
@@boogitybear2283 can’t go wrong with a Honda engine!
Thanks Jb very professional video, I just bought this mower couple of months ago and I'm using it for my gardening business, amazing mower overall!!
Appreciate you Matteo! Thanks for watching!
Hey. I’m just about to pull the trigger on buying a new mower and currently with the weather changing and all the dealers in my area low on inventory I am stuck between two options. One is the Honda HRN216 and the Toro super recycler. If you where in my shoes what would you go for?
I would go with the Honda Larry! Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear perfect. Just called the dealer and told them to get it ready. Really enjoyed your videos. Keep them coming.
@@larrycarey6120 awesome will do my friend
So what would lick between this and the 163cc toro super recycler? That's what I'm down to in my choice 😆 Im leaning towards the honda. Thing looks like its a beast in tall grass and mulching. Also great motor.
I’d go with the Honda! The personal pace on the toro has issues backing up. 👍👍
In general loved mine. BEWARE sticks!!! We have a heavy tree yard, no matter how much I rake we always miss one or two. The drive belt is not well protected for this issue and one stick hits the right way can shred the belt.. It is almost impossible to find a belt replacement, and is a huge pain in the butt to replace as the give you almost no room near the transmission. The spring for the transmission easily comes of then is impossible to put back on with out ripping out the whole rear wheel assembly.
Good to know. Thanks for sharing these tips Stephen! Appreciate it! 👍
Is there a different mower you'd recommend for a stick heavy lawn? I'm surrounded by huge trees so am dealing with sticks often.
@@pioneer7777777 Honestly I don't buy mowers often since I can do most repairs on my own. Also I have been just using the mower without the drive belt since it is going to take a long time to get in, and the review is right it is one hell of a mulcher. Since I'm not worried about frying another drive belt, I have been going though the areas of the yard with heavy leaf cover, even with the sticks and the areas look like I just laid down a few hundred bucks of mulch. I would see if there is a model with out the drive feature. At this point if Honda would have just given the mower a better guard plate between the blades and the drive belt I would say it is damn near a perfect mower. We are going to get a rider at some point, other wise I would check with the local metal shop about cutting me a better plate for the guard. Until then, I just sharpen the blades every couple of months and get my cardio in....... also I did still remove sticks thicker than my finger when I saw them first.
@@pioneer7777777 Stephen below made some great points! I have used toro super recyclers below on some pretty wooded lawns and those did fine too. I would not consider a plastic deck only because thick sticks could dig into the plastic.
@@stephenpozywio851 thanks for sharing stephen!
My ancient Gravely mower got rained on here in Florida,tarp blew off, and now I can't get it to start. I don't know what to do. Sounds like it wants to start, used starting fluid 7 or 8 times, but won't complete to run. I'm hoping water dries out but I might have to buy a mower, this Honda is $549 at Home Depot currently.
Hey Samuel! You may want to check your air filter compartment and possible give the machine a carb cleaning. Not sure how water got in but drain it of all old gas and start fresh. See what happens. Prices have sure gone up in a year or two. Thanks for watching!
Great info. The toro in the back is better than this Honda ? It was $399 @ HD but I got this one for the 3yr warranty @ $549. Should I return it ? I had a craftsman that had a fresh start green cap and that would sit once a month and always start never no problem.
@@andiegomes2764 hey Andie I’m confused you have a toro for $399? And you want to return the Honda for $549?
Let me add an issue I had yesterday. I just bought the mower and overall I thought it was great, but the grass bag keeps dropping off on one side. The two 90 degree bars are supposed to sit behind a "kinda holder/hook, but the right side keeps slipping out of place and leans down. What can you do to fix this?
Hey David I have never experienced this before. Is the slot cracked/broken?
@@GarageGear I don't know if I can send a picture over YT, but it seems that the right side is more rounded off and not as good as the left side. Instead of being "straight up" it should of had a little hook to it so the 90 degree bar doesn't just slip off.
I'd hate to take the lawnmower back to try to get another. I'll see what the company says.
@@davidthompson9359 ok keep me posted you can send me a picture on Instagram. My info is in the video description!
the bags shorter because you can kick it accidentley when walking also with the fine cut packs in twice as much and any more the bag will heavy making the machine tail heavy and heavy to empty when wet
Thanks for sharing Russell!
Does anyone know if I can get a bigger bag? I'm dealing with a total weeded lawn and want to back it all up instead of letting the weeds get dispersed back in
As far as I know you cannot get a bigger bag! Thanks for watching
I've had a Toro Personal Pace for about five years. Great cut and very good for mulching, especially for leaves in the fall. But from the start, it will not constantly "freewheel" when you need to pull it backward, like when working around shrubbery. Sometimes it freewheels, sometimes it doesn't. Very aggravating to have to "drag" it backwards. It's been to the repair shop a number of times for this issue and never resolved. Also, after a couple years of use, the drive belt comes off semi-regularly. That problem also can't be resolved by the dealer. In fact, I'm shopping for a replacement mower mostly for that reason. Anyone else have the same issues?
Thanks for sharing these details Lynn! Appreciate it!
@lynnnash3332 do you stop fully and wait for the self propel to disengage before pulling it backwards? Was at the shop today and the mechanic there said this was the only issue that had a client come in with on a stihl. Not sure if it’s the same but thought it may be worth mentioning just in case. They also sell Honda and after seeing this video & review I’ll probably stick with the Honda. Thanks JB!
@@howietiz1997 Thanks for the reply, Mike. Yes, I've tried pausing, and everything I can think to try. More than 50% of the time, the mower does not freewheel when pulled backward. One or both wheels "lock."
Dude you had me pumped up ready to kick my yards ass with how motivated you are about the Honda! And for that you get a "4"!!!!👍😂😂
ROCK ON Max!!! Honda makes a great machine! Every mower has its pluses and minuses but this one is pretty well rounded. Glad you enjoyed the video my friend! Thanks for being a cool fan! 👍
Hey. My husband and I are looking to get this kind of mower from a friend. We were wondering if we could change gas types? Our friend was using premium fuel for it and we would like to go to a more affordable gas. Is it just a matter of draining the fuel and putting the different fuel in it?
Hey Stephanie! Just mow your lawn with the remaining fuel until it’s gone! I would recommend using ethanol-free fuel if you can get it! Small engines run best with it! Regular gas will be fine if you decide to go that route. Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear thank you!
@@stephaniefuller262 you got it Stephanie!
JB in your honist opinion Should I stay away from the HRN 216 VLA with blade stop & just stick with the VKA. I'm a little worried about the clutch & other things to go Wong that would stop me from being able to cut the grass. I like the option tho but dependability is more important me then the extra options cause frankly I think it don't sound good at a lower RPM without the Blades engaged.
@@michaeldavis6550 hey Michael! I have the vka and it’s been flawless. I haven’t heard one bad thing about the VLA though. I actually with I bought the VLA because it would help with all stops I have to make while filming. Can’t go wrong with either! 👍👍
@GarageGear Thank you very much JB,
@@michaeldavis6550 you got it bud!
If you ever have the chance to compare the Honda commercial, I would love to watch that. Also, amazing video!
That would make for some great content for sure! Thanks for watching dapro! 👍
That is a awesome mower. Light weight if you just want to push mow along with the option of the self-propelled feature too. I rate it at a 5 - star!
Thanks for sharing mark!
What level do you usually set the wheels at? I don’t want it to cut to close ruining the grass or leaving it too long after a cut. Thanks
Hey Dragin, depends on your lawn type. Where are you located. I have a cool season lawn and I’m just outside of Buffalo ny. I mow at about 2.5-3” which would have my mower set at 2.5 or 3. Some grasses require a lower cut or higher depending on the grass type! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the quick reply! I live about 45 minutes from Chicago.
@@dragin79 awesome you’re probably going to be about the same!
I bought honda hrn216. My first time i try to cut grass the blade is not rotating. Anything i may be missing?
Hey Walt! Do you have the model with the roto stop or blade brake clutch? This keeps the motor running when you let go of the handle but stops the blade. I wonder if you’re not engaging that.
I would like for you to review riding mowers. Thank you for all you do!
Hey Randal! Don’t get many of those in my garage! I’ll see what I can do! Thanks for being a cool fan!
My B&S Quantum on my Snapper 21 Hi-Vac lasted over 20 years . I repowered with a new B&S Quantum short block . Cheers!
Awesome! Great engines! Thanks for watching!
Im looking to get that model Honda lawn mower , I was wondering if i can use non ethanol gas in it. the info i see inline is very vague and confusing
Yea that’s what I use!
Hey love the videos.looking for help??? The handle for mulch and bag will not stay on mulch it vibrates out of mulch also it looks like green part of handle came apart and help would be fantastic thanks
Hey Knifeshow! Here is a link to the replacement parts needed. I believe you’ll need parts 15 and 17. On the cutter housing diagram. Looks like a cheap fix too. Shouldn’t be a tough swap. Hope this helps.
Thanks for quick response ,I can't find link ?
Not sure we're to find link,thanks
@@theknifeshow5238 sorry late night response forgot to put it in. www.hondalawnparts.com/oemparts/a/hpe/5dc1800687a8660220881a02/cutter-housing
Here is the link again. Zoom in to see what parts of yours are broken. Then match up the numbers . I think it’s 15 and 17 for you but I could be wrong. www.hondalawnparts.com/oemparts/a/hpe/5dc1800687a8660220881a02/cutter-housing
So I have been happy with mine for the 13 months I have had it but thinking about selling it for an electric mower. I Have a small yard and this is the last gas piece of equipment I have so would be nice to switch this over so I don't have to mess with buying gas and oil anymore. How much is this mower worth being 13 months old, I'm guessing a about 15 hours on it.
How much did you pay for it?
I bought the Honda HRN 216. I am on third tank of gas. Started surging on second tank. Difficult to start on third tank of gas., Now will not even start. Still has warranty. Just cant get my paper work correct for Home Depot. Been as small engine shop 3 weeks.
Sorry to hear! Thanks for sharing!
Question on the handle - does or can it fold down? I need to store the lawnmower under a small deck and have about 3 to 3.5' of clearance.
Hey Glen! Yes the whole handle bar assembly folds forward over the engine. You would have plenty of room then! Thanks for watching! 👍
@@GarageGear How well does self-propelled work? My yard is sloped, maybe 20-25 degrees, and need to ensure it can get up that terrain. I bought a new Craftsman front-wheel drive and even on flat areas it went nowhere. I'm returning it to Lowes and looking at replacing it with the Honda.
@@glenjones2277 the drive system is terrific and very fast at full throttle! The physics alone will be better on this model with the rear wheel drive. The front wheel drive system has to pull all its weight up the hill while a rear wheel drive pushes its weight up. Can’t go wrong with a Honda my friend!
What about when you mow and don't discharge the clippings and when changing the drive belt.
Hey JT are you referring to mulching the clippings? This mower does an excellent job with that. I haven’t had an issue with the drive belt but I will definitely do a video when the time comes. Thanks for watching!
Im still trying figure out how much is 2/3rd gasoline in tank !! Never mind im sure its not a whole lot. Im buying one.
I’ll have to check the manual and see the tank size. It’s very fuel efficient! Thanks for watching
Hopefully getting one of these today. Thank you
Awesome James! Let me know how you like it! Thanks for watching!
You said this mower was the hrn216vka but the link you put for that mower isn't the dual blade, is there a different one? I see the hrn217 has twin blade system
Hey Kazper, the second amazon link is to this mower in the video. It has the dual blade system! Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear ok thanks!
I bought one in April of 2020. The transmission has failed and Honda shows the part as not available. This is still a current model being sold, so one would think all parts would still be available for it. If not then how well it performs when new is irrelevant.
Thanks for sharing
I was thinking about the Toro time master but was reading a lot of bad reviews and started thinking about Honda but one with brake stop.
@@markd9105 I would go for the honda!
@@GarageGear I think I will.