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Only pretty boy F 14 pilots play that. Admitedly sadly no longer a thing, unless you are uh Iranian I guess. Everyone else? Song 2, by Blur. They even wait for the chords to drop before turning on their after burners. No jokes aside. I don't think there is a better hype song for anything.
That Syrian pilot may have thought he had a backup with the SU-27 or that he could start a problem with the US and bait the Russian into helping. Imagine his shock.
@@Taskandpurposejust curious, I know the su-27 is a great jet but did you say in the beginning you think it would be able to kill the 4 f18s or were you saying it’s capable of killing a f18 describing that it’s as good or better than a single one?
@@kevinmyers440 he said it potentially carries enough missiles to attack and kill all 4 F/A-18. Success depends on how those defend, and how far away they are. Any jet can kill any other if no defensive action is taking.
@@kevinmyers440 Keep in mind the 4 F18E's were in CAS configuration with no air-to-air weapons loaded. If the Su27 had gone hostile, they would have no weapons to fire back with other than their machine gun. It also had a height advantage and would have the first shot. It's about as perfect a condition as you are likely to ever get against american aircraft. So, theoretically, in a perfect world in which none of the F18E's countermeasures were effective, in which all of the Su27's missiles actually functioned properly, in which the F18E's were unable to return fire? Potentially they could have been taken out. What sort of escalation that might have prompted in response? Well, fortunately, we'll never know.
I was an engineer for the AIM-9X around when this happened. Obviously I can't say why it missed or anything more than what you have in your video but as far as publicly available information you did a good job explaining it!
glad to hear it ! We looked at a lot of different sources with my writer Diego to try to figure out what happened. Tyler Rogoway at the Warzone wrote some great articles on the topic as well
I remember seeing a video with the interview of the pilot describing that shoot down and he said the AIm-9X went wild and that the su-22 never did pop flares. I'll try and look for it.
It's a fox 2 and whent for flares like water is wet... Like what is special here? Now why the Fox-3 hit is another thing entirely was it the F-18's radar as close range, did the Fritter not chafe, or did the F-18 get very luckly after getting unluckly? Also why did he use missles at all when guns would be just fine and give him another record?
16:52 when a failure becomes an advantage. I remember that the anti scud misiles had a darn hard time tracking those behemoths, at first operators thought that new gen scuds had countermeasures but when they analyzed the footage they realized that, due to poor construction, the scuds were letting behind all kind of debris,including bolts, nuts, panels paint, etc…. Noise
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I should have gone into more detail there. The flares performance variation was a mistake on their part. It was due to poor manufacturing tolerances . Sometimes it pays to have shoddy production!
not really, those are only effective against heat seekers, not radar based missiles, it's a defensive measure, not a counter offensive, in order to avade radar based missiles there are 3 options, wingman shoots the missile, fly below mountain ranges, or use a ECM burst field that disrupts radar tracking
@Taskandpurpose Raytheon took note and now has updated firmware to allow the pilot to visually select what he wants to target with the aim 9x on his display. Exhaust, body, etc. It calculates the temperature then locks that temperature in and guides to anything with the same thermal signature. It can lock onto things less than 80°c
yeah the "poor quality control" sounds plausible but I think its more likely the Russians or Iranians had designed a system that dispensed varying types of flares. You can see even their long range ballistic missiles are now carrying flare dispensers, so it would indicate its something that the Russians actively develop and more than likely are advanced at. Its not a particularly technically complex device so it would be a prime area to innovate for Russians when you look at defense economics. If you can get your enemies to waste million dollar missiles on flares that cost a few bucks each, while development of something that performs really well obviously costs more but once the design is proven counter-measures can give you advantages in more ways than one.
Correction: Tremel and Krueger were both part of VFA-87 Golden Warriors along with me. Not not the Raging Bulls although VFA 37 was on that deployment they were still flying the old hornets and we had just gotten brand new super hornets. I know this because I was an avionics technician on the very jet that they use to shoot down the Syrian jet.
So the Russian poor quality control was really a countermeasure against American sidewinders 🙂 I'm reminded of a college friend who said that brand X locks were the hardest to pick because the quality was so poor it was hard to get a good feel of the pins 🙂
I congratulate you on your dramatic improvement in your ability to pronounce non-English words. It is a skill well worth learning and practicing, especially with so many sources available to give you the correct pronunciation online that are readily available. It has greatly improved the quality of your videos this year.
Thanks Chris for your analysis. Been subscribed since April 2022. Can't wait to see what you do for 2024. Love your channel, attitude, and transparency. Keep it up
Cheers and Merry Christmas from a German Veteran (231. Gebirgsjägerbattalion of the 23rd Gebirgsjägerbrigade) out of Bad Reichenhall I just wanted to say i really appreciate that you still cover Ukraine and also other Topics such as in this Video and will keep on doing so as you mentioned in your recent Ukraine Video. Sadly since there is once again another War/Skirmish with Israel and one of it's Neighbours most Western Media (of any Type) has suddenly almostly completely stopped covering it but instead focusing by Majority on the Israel-Gaza Conflict. Which is strange to me, but i guess it has to do with "What brings more Engagement/Viewers". So, it is very much appreciated and i'm looking forward to every Video you upload Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Wow. You are the David Attenborough of the military. I know of no one who does what you do, (though admittedly I don’t get out much.) This is more than a recounting of an event. You include enough background for everyone to understand. How do we get your work expanded beyond UA-cam? (Not that there’s anything wrong with UA-cam.)
thanks man I owe a great ton to the research done by my team and the military community in general. I've worked for some main stream places before and I found the internet gives a lot more freedom with less restrictions on time / advertisers / how the story is told etc.
The fact that both the lead and the #2 were both Lt. CMDR ranks proves that they knew something was up, and nothing about the sortie was routine. Edit: I flew with "Claw" Hwang in my first unit, great dude. 493rd was stacked with a lot of the best pilots and we won the Hughes trophy twice in 3 years.
Clear and concise Cappy as usual, one of the benefits this last year gave me was finding your channel. From another U.S. Vet, Bravo Zulu, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎈🎊🎆
@@TaskandpurposeFox 3 refers to active radar homing missile (AMRAAM, Meteor etc), Fox 1 is for semi-active radar homing A2A missiles like the AIM-7 Sparrows
Thanks Cappy, As an ex-Grunt it is "good" to see the flyboys have the same issue with the ROE as we did. It sucked the big one that we couldn't fire unless the enemy fired FIRST. Oh, Merry Christmas, by the way. Ho, ho, ho etc.
Merry Christmas and a happy New year to the whole spare parts army !! Keep up the good work Chris and may the channel go from strength to strength again in 2024. Thankyou keep it up !!
Minor Correction: The Su-27s that Russia deployed in Syria were upgraded Su-27SM3 variants, which had sophisticated avionics and fully digital glass cockpits.
Still considering the Super hornets superior ASEA radar, networking, AWACs support, pilot training and superior weapons the Su-27M3 would have a very hard time of it.
Sophisticated by Ruzzian standards. Still inferior to 20-30 year old US equipment. An Su-27, upgraded or not, it at a big disadvantage against a Super Hornet, much less 4 Super Hornets.
Su-27M3 is still running the the Slot Back radar albeit one made with late 90s components instead of mid 80s components (N-001V Mech). Its still a mechanically steered array about 30 years behind the times and incompatible with the A-12 Adder (R-77) so they were at best running with AA-10 Alamos still (R-27). Combine that with an ancient RWR design and the odds of them even detecting the AN/APG-79 radar the Super Hornets have are lower than Putin's odds at winning a Nobel Peace Prize. WVR the flanker is a threat but BVR its going to get glassed by a super hornet.
Still upgraded flankers though. As an aviation enthusiast, I have a clear idea of Russian Tech being generations behind. Even their AESA in Su-57 is early AESA technology, comparable to what US did in 2000 with Mitsubishi F-2s Radar. But their PESA radars are quite formidable. A US navy pilot who served with the RMAF and frequently fought Su-30mkm, He stated that modern flankers are quite formidable fighters. And their BVR capability is not something you should take lightly, they can rich a very high altitude and loft missiles. So, the main deciding factor would be Tactics vs Tactics and that is exactly where no one can even come close to the US. Furthermore, air-to-air combats are very complex, you can never ever say whoever gonna win, thousands of variables will play their role. Your tactic is to play the fight in the most unfair way; the game of pushing your enemy to their most uncomfortable zone. You can't never ever say which fighter will come victorious in 1v1 or 2v2 fight. Gonky himself admitted he has lost to Su-30MKM multiple times. (Checkout The Ready Room channel on yt.). @@LordOceanus
@@farhadzaman4707 Again we are not discussing a modern jet we are discussing a SU-27 that received a bare bones upgrade package. The slot back is not PESA, its not even TWS capable.
The F/A-18 E (single seat, F for 2) is fighter attack. Normally has a FLIR pod for targeting ground, but also is more than capable with AIM-9X and combined fleet radars. Its not new, but its extremely capable. Worked on Supers for 1/2 my Navy time.
I think they've replaced pretty much all of the old FLIR pods with the Rafael LITENING pod. I'm guessing the sensor tech in one of those is why we don't have video from the shooter.
The inconsistency of the Soviet flares is really funny, and hopefully something that was taken into consideration and construction of NATO flares. I also remember seeing a story about how the US ended up with a Soviet fighter of some sort but had to return it and got caught taking it apart because The US didn't have screws that weren't galvanized
The accident you are talking about was the foxbat MiG-25 event in 1976 where a Russian pilot defected USSR brand new jet to a US base in Japan. The Russians praised it as its answer to the US SR-71 and said it could intercept the Blackbird. When the US military got their hands on it, the US found out it was complete trash since it couldn't maintain its high speed for long periods because the engine would melt itself due to poor design and inferior metallurgy. The US learned that the USSR was still using tech the US mastered 20 years previous. The US was so disappointed that they learned nothing from the Foxbat that they sent it back in wooden crates to spite the USSR. Breaching Mach 3 is no small feat, but the SR-71 was able to maintain Mach 3 for over an hour and no more than 90 minutes, whereas the Foxbat would melt its engine after a few minutes if it tried to maintain Mach 3.
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I love your videos. Extremely well informed, always engaging, all of them are interesting. I literally never watched a video I didn’t like. I understand you served in the military, thank you for your service.
Some modern missiles use a mixture or heat and radar along with point laser to find targets you can fool one but the three systems basically ensure a hit or close to it. The problem is of course price as multiple tracking systems and subsequent computers are expensive
IR missiles are also easier to spoof when fired from a higher altitude against another aircraft near the ground, especially in a hot, rocky environment like Syria. It’s harder for the seeker-even an advanced thermal imaging seeker-to pick out an aircraft against the warm ground, and it also enhances flares’ ability to distract the missile. I suspect this wouldn’t have occurred if they were at 5-10,000 feet or more in altitude.
@@kylejohns2288I’m not sure any air-to-air missiles in production at this time have dual-mode seekers, but some are planned. The Peregrine missile is supposed to have them whenever it comes out, and perhaps the Cuda as well.
I miss making the firearms videos , I'm planning to make a schedule where I do at least 1 firearms video a month going forward so it's a better more predictable mix for 2024
See you on New Years! My "Father in law" is called Cappy, so yeah! Merry Christmas and happy new year, that is why I fist started following you. Looking forward to the next Chris Cappy Instalment!
just a small correction @ 11:45 you said tremell fired his AMRAMM (aim 120) you called it FOX 1. an Aim 120 is designated FOX 3 . a FOX 1 missile is the Sparrow missile
I really enjoyed all the posts that I have seen in 2023. Thank for them out. I am interested in content about the Middle East but can never find it unless or until I find your channel. Thank for your presence on this platform: I truly appreciate your information provided by your channel .
Thank you for making these videos. This is one of the very few channels I care about seeing on youtube. Maybe it's my autism maybe it's just me but your videos are informative entertaining and well thought out.
It's cool how you sort-of stealthily combine hard-to-resist geek content with real history and political knowledge. When I watch your videos I learn more than I thought I would. Thank you.
I love the fact that the most official and plausible explanation we'll have of why the 9X got flared is "Their old Soviet kit is so shit and inconsistent, with such poor standards and quality control that even our supercomputer missile had no idea what the F'K was going on and got lost".😂
Title should of been "Latest Sidewinder fails to shoot down 1970s jet". One of the main air-to-air missiles of the western world utterly failing to get an easy kill vs an obsolete enemy fighter-bomber is the main story here, and a huge worry.
I wouldn't read this as a worry, but instead an opportunity: this was more than half a decade ago. Having this happen, in a single engagement, means that the problem can be fixed before it becomes an institutional problem when fighting against near-parity opposition.
Man, you're lookin' mighty official as a green-bagger in the sim there! You should've gone Air Force; you've definitely got the style chops to fit right in...
Interesting point about the mis-matched weapon and target. Funny they didn't do more after those tests. Chris, the music distracts. Recommend using it just for transitions, but not in the background for long technical stretches. Us old farts can't follow so easily!
I do wonder what exactly the US aircraft carriers could be obsolete compared to lol. nobody has anything superior because almost nobody has the budget to afford an equivalent class anyway. though I have seen people try to claim the aircraft carrier concept was obsolete which is just cope because in order for a big boat with jets on it to be obsolete the whole concept of aircraft in warfare would need to be obsolete.
I also read something I don’t remember where but that the pilot also said the Aim 9X took a much longer time to get off the rail than a normal one, showing it malfunctioned
Wouldn't it behoove us to purposely manufacture flares so there was variation in how they burned for the purpose of making them more difficult for enemy missiles to ignore?
Just out of curiosity, are the simulated seats as uncomfortable as the actual seats? I might be in the minority buy I took a backseat ride in an A7 while I was in the Navy and after a few hours I felt like I'd been whitewater rafting without the raft. Something I had experience with as a guide and had been thrown out several times in class 4 rapids.
Cappy, love your work, but a correction. The last USAF air to air kill was Lt Col Michael Geczy in 1999, according to wikipedia: "May 4, 1999 - A General Dynamics F-16C Fighting Falcon (Serial Number : 91-0353) shot down a Mikoyan MiG-29 aircraft using an AIM-120 AMRAAM missile. The F-16 was piloted by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Geczy.[49]"
The AIM9-X has a tandem lock, it incorporates a semi-active radar tracker as well. It was supposed to be the be most lethal air to air missile to date, this was slightly embarrassing.
Im more interested in why the Syrian war is permitted to continue by the UN. It has killed hundreds of thousands, and been going on for many years. Yet the UN is solely concentrated on a recently started war that has only killed a few thousand. That is what I would like investigated fully.
Isn’t Syria a civil war/domestic conflict? In that case, the only things the UN could do is prevent outside forces from intervening (Russia and the US are on the security council) and protecting civilians from getting caught in the crossfire
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It upsets Assadists and other fascists, protecting civilians, protecting trade routes. Obviously if you're in the West you want countries who are friendly to you to control territory, so we can get their resources cheaply so we can have everything from better medical equipment, cheaper cars, and less refugees flooding our borders. It's not rocket surgery. But most of all, upsetting people who wish Hitler won WW2 who mostly support Assad? Always funny.
Civil wars mean that there are two different entities fighting over Sovereignty so Russia is doing exactly the same thing as the US here. also we are there to deal with ISIS when Syria threatens our operations it makes sense to retaliate against the specific target involved.
@@dominuslogik484 Russia was invited US wasnt. Operations on what? Are you operating on a country with a govt standing? Isnt that illegal? Plus, CIA funded the Civil war it was obvious as daylight, where do you think those toyota came from?
@@TGTexan Toyota HiLux usually come from Dubai and are paid for by the organizations themselves. we were in support of the SDF in Syria who the SAA would occasionally attack. we only ever retaliated against the SAA for attacks against the SDF who was important for ground operations against ISIS.
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He was listening to danger zone by kenny loggins....that's how he actually did it.
That is mandatory for all air to air combat engagements 😂😂😂🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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The houthis know.
Only pretty boy F 14 pilots play that. Admitedly sadly no longer a thing, unless you are uh Iranian I guess.
Everyone else? Song 2, by Blur. They even wait for the chords to drop before turning on their after burners.
No jokes aside. I don't think there is a better hype song for anything.
That Syrian pilot may have thought he had a backup with the SU-27 or that he could start a problem with the US and bait the Russian into helping. Imagine his shock.
He didn't
He was conducting mission against ISIS target before the United States intervened to help their pawns per usual
that would go a long way in explaining what happend
@@Taskandpurposejust curious, I know the su-27 is a great jet but did you say in the beginning you think it would be able to kill the 4 f18s or were you saying it’s capable of killing a f18 describing that it’s as good or better than a single one?
@@kevinmyers440 he said it potentially carries enough missiles to attack and kill all 4 F/A-18. Success depends on how those defend, and how far away they are. Any jet can kill any other if no defensive action is taking.
@@kevinmyers440 Keep in mind the 4 F18E's were in CAS configuration with no air-to-air weapons loaded. If the Su27 had gone hostile, they would have no weapons to fire back with other than their machine gun. It also had a height advantage and would have the first shot. It's about as perfect a condition as you are likely to ever get against american aircraft.
So, theoretically, in a perfect world in which none of the F18E's countermeasures were effective, in which all of the Su27's missiles actually functioned properly, in which the F18E's were unable to return fire? Potentially they could have been taken out. What sort of escalation that might have prompted in response? Well, fortunately, we'll never know.
I was an engineer for the AIM-9X around when this happened. Obviously I can't say why it missed or anything more than what you have in your video but as far as publicly available information you did a good job explaining it!
glad to hear it ! We looked at a lot of different sources with my writer Diego to try to figure out what happened. Tyler Rogoway at the Warzone wrote some great articles on the topic as well
I remember seeing a video with the interview of the pilot describing that shoot down and he said the AIm-9X went wild and that the su-22 never did pop flares. I'll try and look for it.
18 minutes and 30 seconds is when he talks about the Sidewinder
@@stevennicovich8547I think UA-cam removed the link
It's a fox 2 and whent for flares like water is wet... Like what is special here? Now why the Fox-3 hit is another thing entirely was it the F-18's radar as close range, did the Fritter not chafe, or did the F-18 get very luckly after getting unluckly? Also why did he use missles at all when guns would be just fine and give him another record?
16:52 when a failure becomes an advantage. I remember that the anti scud misiles had a darn hard time tracking those behemoths, at first operators thought that new gen scuds had countermeasures but when they analyzed the footage they realized that, due to poor construction, the scuds were letting behind all kind of debris,including bolts, nuts, panels paint, etc…. Noise
that is hilarious but also makes a lot of sense, basically its chaff on the missile lol
The downside to building to Soviet propaganda specs.
@@Vexas345 Nice excuse to a poor US AD systems.
@@_Epsilon_ Yeah, too bad those Su-34s that just got evaporated forgot to load up the bad flares. Lol
@@Vexas345 Patriot is radar based, they wouldn't be useful anyway
AIM 120 is an active radar homing missile, thus it's call sign is Fox 3.
I was just about to post the same
i was looking for this already
That and the plane pictures that the 120 hit was a su27
thanks for the correction!
Thanks; I, too, was just about to bring this up.
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Varying the design of your flares such that it makes it harder for the enemy to counter your countermeasures sounds like a good idea, actually.
I should have gone into more detail there. The flares performance variation was a mistake on their part. It was due to poor manufacturing tolerances . Sometimes it pays to have shoddy production!
not really, those are only effective against heat seekers, not radar based missiles, it's a defensive measure, not a counter offensive, in order to avade radar based missiles there are 3 options, wingman shoots the missile, fly below mountain ranges, or use a ECM burst field that disrupts radar tracking
@Taskandpurpose Raytheon took note and now has updated firmware to allow the pilot to visually select what he wants to target with the aim 9x on his display. Exhaust, body, etc. It calculates the temperature then locks that temperature in and guides to anything with the same thermal signature. It can lock onto things less than 80°c
@@questcore636 you forgot about chaff.
yeah the "poor quality control" sounds plausible but I think its more likely the Russians or Iranians had designed a system that dispensed varying types of flares. You can see even their long range ballistic missiles are now carrying flare dispensers, so it would indicate its something that the Russians actively develop and more than likely are advanced at. Its not a particularly technically complex device so it would be a prime area to innovate for Russians when you look at defense economics. If you can get your enemies to waste million dollar missiles on flares that cost a few bucks each, while development of something that performs really well obviously costs more but once the design is proven counter-measures can give you advantages in more ways than one.
Correction: Tremel and Krueger were both part of VFA-87 Golden Warriors along with me. Not not the Raging Bulls although VFA 37 was on that deployment they were still flying the old hornets and we had just gotten brand new super hornets. I know this because I was an avionics technician on the very jet that they use to shoot down the Syrian jet.
thanks for pointing that out ! much appreciated
i cant remember if my dad deployed with yall that year or left i know he was in 37 in 2015
@@Taskandpurpose @matthewramirez3472 is correct, I remember doing the release and control check the day prior on that jet.
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So the Russian poor quality control was really a countermeasure against American sidewinders 🙂 I'm reminded of a college friend who said that brand X locks were the hardest to pick because the quality was so poor it was hard to get a good feel of the pins 🙂
i have a lock like that. the keyway is tight and all you can feel is gravel.
Is your friend the Lock Picking Lawyer by any chance?
@@rickh9396 I have no idea who LPL really is, but I doubt it.
@@kennethng8346lock picking lawyer he picks the unpickable then roasts them
When you can rake a shitty lock instantly but can’t pick it reliably the frustration is palpable. Skill issue on my part, but still 😡
I congratulate you on your dramatic improvement in your ability to pronounce non-English words. It is a skill well worth learning and practicing, especially with so many sources available to give you the correct pronunciation online that are readily available. It has greatly improved the quality of your videos this year.
Cappy has improved a lot in the last year. Good work bro! 👍
Wow! That guy sure has some bragging rights around the squadron now! That would be pretty cool to paint an Su-22 silhouette on the side of your F-18!
Thanks Chris for your analysis. Been subscribed since April 2022. Can't wait to see what you do for 2024. Love your channel, attitude, and transparency. Keep it up
thanks I appreciate the support man ! looking forward to 2024
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I just wanted to say i really appreciate that you still cover Ukraine and also other Topics such as in this Video and will keep on doing so as you mentioned in your recent Ukraine Video.
Sadly since there is once again another War/Skirmish with Israel and one of it's Neighbours most Western Media (of any Type) has suddenly almostly completely stopped covering it but instead focusing by Majority on the Israel-Gaza Conflict. Which is strange to me, but i guess it has to do with "What brings more Engagement/Viewers".
So, it is very much appreciated and i'm looking forward to every Video you upload
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Wow. You are the David Attenborough of the military. I know of no one who does what you do, (though admittedly I don’t get out much.) This is more than a recounting of an event. You include enough background for everyone to understand. How do we get your work expanded beyond UA-cam? (Not that there’s anything wrong with UA-cam.)
thanks man I owe a great ton to the research done by my team and the military community in general. I've worked for some main stream places before and I found the internet gives a lot more freedom with less restrictions on time / advertisers / how the story is told etc.
David Attenborough is a liar too, so yes you are right.
The fact that both the lead and the #2 were both Lt. CMDR ranks proves that they knew something was up, and nothing about the sortie was routine. Edit: I flew with "Claw" Hwang in my first unit, great dude. 493rd was stacked with a lot of the best pilots and we won the Hughes trophy twice in 3 years.
Clear and concise Cappy as usual, one of the benefits this last year gave me was finding your channel.
From another U.S. Vet, Bravo Zulu, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 🎈🎊🎆
I would love to see more combat break down videos like this! Note: AMRAAM is Fox 3.
thanks for the correction I'm a ground pounder dummy when it comes to air force specifics !
@@TaskandpurposeFox 3 refers to active radar homing missile (AMRAAM, Meteor etc), Fox 1 is for semi-active radar homing A2A missiles like the AIM-7 Sparrows
Thanks Cappy, As an ex-Grunt it is "good" to see the flyboys have the same issue with the ROE as we did. It sucked the big one that we couldn't fire unless the enemy fired FIRST. Oh, Merry Christmas, by the way. Ho, ho, ho etc.
Maybe we could fire first IF a war was declared or we WEREN’T in foreign territory... pesky details
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Minor Correction: The Su-27s that Russia deployed in Syria were upgraded Su-27SM3 variants, which had sophisticated avionics and fully digital glass cockpits.
Still considering the Super hornets superior ASEA radar, networking, AWACs support, pilot training and superior weapons the Su-27M3 would have a very hard time of it.
Sophisticated by Ruzzian standards. Still inferior to 20-30 year old US equipment. An Su-27, upgraded or not, it at a big disadvantage against a Super Hornet, much less 4 Super Hornets.
Su-27M3 is still running the the Slot Back radar albeit one made with late 90s components instead of mid 80s components (N-001V Mech). Its still a mechanically steered array about 30 years behind the times and incompatible with the A-12 Adder (R-77) so they were at best running with AA-10 Alamos still (R-27). Combine that with an ancient RWR design and the odds of them even detecting the AN/APG-79 radar the Super Hornets have are lower than Putin's odds at winning a Nobel Peace Prize. WVR the flanker is a threat but BVR its going to get glassed by a super hornet.
Still upgraded flankers though. As an aviation enthusiast, I have a clear idea of Russian Tech being generations behind. Even their AESA in Su-57 is early AESA technology, comparable to what US did in 2000 with Mitsubishi F-2s Radar. But their PESA radars are quite formidable. A US navy pilot who served with the RMAF and frequently fought Su-30mkm, He stated that modern flankers are quite formidable fighters. And their BVR capability is not something you should take lightly, they can rich a very high altitude and loft missiles. So, the main deciding factor would be Tactics vs Tactics and that is exactly where no one can even come close to the US. Furthermore, air-to-air combats are very complex, you can never ever say whoever gonna win, thousands of variables will play their role. Your tactic is to play the fight in the most unfair way; the game of pushing your enemy to their most uncomfortable zone. You can't never ever say which fighter will come victorious in 1v1 or 2v2 fight. Gonky himself admitted he has lost to Su-30MKM multiple times. (Checkout The Ready Room channel on yt.). @@LordOceanus
@@farhadzaman4707 Again we are not discussing a modern jet we are discussing a SU-27 that received a bare bones upgrade package. The slot back is not PESA, its not even TWS capable.
The F/A-18 E (single seat, F for 2) is fighter attack. Normally has a FLIR pod for targeting ground, but also is more than capable with AIM-9X and combined fleet radars. Its not new, but its extremely capable. Worked on Supers for 1/2 my Navy time.
I think they've replaced pretty much all of the old FLIR pods with the Rafael LITENING pod. I'm guessing the sensor tech in one of those is why we don't have video from the shooter.
The flight simulator is so awesome. By far the best ‘enter to win’ prize I’ve ever seen. Love this channel
amazing video as usual brother, 11:47 pretty sure amraams are fox 3s tho
Thanks for all the videos this year cappy
The inconsistency of the Soviet flares is really funny, and hopefully something that was taken into consideration and construction of NATO flares.
I also remember seeing a story about how the US ended up with a Soviet fighter of some sort but had to return it and got caught taking it apart because The US didn't have screws that weren't galvanized
Lol galvanized screws who uses galvanized go stainless (jk)
its one of those things that sounds simple and you think would be obvious to test for in hindsight but really tough to think of before hand
Is that different from the MIG-25 where the pilot defected? Cause that I'm fairly sure the U.S. sent it back in pieces deliberately out of spite.
The accident you are talking about was the foxbat MiG-25 event in 1976 where a Russian pilot defected USSR brand new jet to a US base in Japan. The Russians praised it as its answer to the US SR-71 and said it could intercept the Blackbird. When the US military got their hands on it, the US found out it was complete trash since it couldn't maintain its high speed for long periods because the engine would melt itself due to poor design and inferior metallurgy. The US learned that the USSR was still using tech the US mastered 20 years previous. The US was so disappointed that they learned nothing from the Foxbat that they sent it back in wooden crates to spite the USSR.
Breaching Mach 3 is no small feat, but the SR-71 was able to maintain Mach 3 for over an hour and no more than 90 minutes, whereas the Foxbat would melt its engine after a few minutes if it tried to maintain Mach 3.
@@Nesstor01 That was all well and good until the USSR created the FrigBat. This one ran super cool. It just stayed on the runway.
Thank you. And you know what, I appreciate these videos and the information they bring.
USS George H. W. Bush (CVN 77) is the name of the ship. It was my ship actually, and I was onboard during that deployment.
thx 4 your work, always very interesting! good job, mate.
Per your usual young man a great video!!!!!! All I can chant is U.S.A.!!!!!!! I know this may be used too often these days but U.S.A.!!!!!!! Our military is tops!!!! They can do things that are unreal.... Thanks bud!!
"Maybe they forgot the US Resolve was Inherent." Haha, Cappy with the very niche Dad joke.
15:15 This Tank rolled some serious coal right in to the pick up with the guy waving🤣💨
Great video Chris as always!
Eow, Interesting to know what happened that day. Thanks for the videos. Have a Merry Christmas 🦊
11:46 AIM-120 is fox 3, not fox 1. It has an internal radar, fox 1 does not.
I love your videos. Extremely well informed, always engaging, all of them are interesting. I literally never watched a video I didn’t like. I understand you served in the military, thank you for your service.
That "Inherent Resolve" joke was a Sleep Hitter g
Excellent and NO robo-voice!
Any heat-seeking missile can be distracted by flares. Newer missiles are less likely to be distracted but there is always a chance.
Some modern missiles use a mixture or heat and radar along with point laser to find targets you can fool one but the three systems basically ensure a hit or close to it. The problem is of course price as multiple tracking systems and subsequent computers are expensive
IR missiles are also easier to spoof when fired from a higher altitude against another aircraft near the ground, especially in a hot, rocky environment like Syria. It’s harder for the seeker-even an advanced thermal imaging seeker-to pick out an aircraft against the warm ground, and it also enhances flares’ ability to distract the missile. I suspect this wouldn’t have occurred if they were at 5-10,000 feet or more in altitude.
@@kylejohns2288I’m not sure any air-to-air missiles in production at this time have dual-mode seekers, but some are planned. The Peregrine missile is supposed to have them whenever it comes out, and perhaps the Cuda as well.
@@bluemarlin8138 the AIM9-X is dual mode.
@bluemarlin8138 It's just an extra sensor in the seeker, it doesn't need a whole new production line.
Dude I love this format. Keep going
I love these new more journalist type videos, but I also miss some of your firearms and artillery videos
I miss making the firearms videos , I'm planning to make a schedule where I do at least 1 firearms video a month going forward so it's a better more predictable mix for 2024
Great video as always, Merry Christmas and keep the great videos coming!...
The Baldur's Gate dice roll LMFAO 🤣
See you on New Years! My "Father in law" is called Cappy, so yeah! Merry Christmas and happy new year, that is why I fist started following you. Looking forward to the next Chris Cappy Instalment!
The most interesting part of this was seeing the 9X miss a non manoeuvring jet from the 70s
Thank you and Merry Christmas
just a small correction @ 11:45 you said tremell fired his AMRAMM (aim 120) you called it FOX 1. an Aim 120 is designated FOX 3 . a FOX 1 missile is the Sparrow missile
I was about to point that out. Thanks.
I really enjoyed all the posts that I have seen in 2023. Thank for them out. I am interested in content about the Middle East but can never find it unless or until I find your channel. Thank for your presence on this platform: I truly appreciate your information provided by your channel .
Thank you for making these videos. This is one of the very few channels I care about seeing on youtube. Maybe it's my autism maybe it's just me but your videos are informative entertaining and well thought out.
we've got the same kind of 'tism it sounds like : )
I would use my best tech first. Merry Christmas Task and Purpose. Thanks for the excellent detail in your videos. Cheers
made me chuckle when the pilot adjusted the mirror 0:48 - just like me, everytime the wife uses the car! 😒
😂😂👍
Great video. Merry Christmas!
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I rolled across the title of this video and was like “ welp…ya fuck around, ya find out. 🤷♂️”
It's cool how you sort-of stealthily combine hard-to-resist geek content with real history and political knowledge. When I watch your videos I learn more than I thought I would. Thank you.
I thoroughly enjoy your long format videos where you dig deep
I love the fact that the most official and plausible explanation we'll have of why the 9X got flared is "Their old Soviet kit is so shit and inconsistent, with such poor standards and quality control that even our supercomputer missile had no idea what the F'K was going on and got lost".😂
Good info. Thanks for not using some computer generated voice over.
As an A-10 crew chief, I Need that rig lol
11:45 You meant to say "Fox Three."
Fox-1 is for old Semi-Active AA missiles that require firing aircraft to keep target locked until impact.
Title should of been "Latest Sidewinder fails to shoot down 1970s jet". One of the main air-to-air missiles of the western world utterly failing to get an easy kill vs an obsolete enemy fighter-bomber is the main story here, and a huge worry.
I wouldn't read this as a worry, but instead an opportunity: this was more than half a decade ago. Having this happen, in a single engagement, means that the problem can be fixed before it becomes an institutional problem when fighting against near-parity opposition.
Man, you're lookin' mighty official as a green-bagger in the sim there! You should've gone Air Force; you've definitely got the style chops to fit right in...
Interesting point about the mis-matched weapon and target. Funny they didn't do more after those tests. Chris, the music distracts. Recommend using it just for transitions, but not in the background for long technical stretches. Us old farts can't follow so easily!
Thanks for the feedback ! I’m trying to find some less distracting music
Another great video Cappy. Keep it up 💯
11:40 AIM 120 is "Fox 3"
New subscriber so dont let me down. Hope you had a great Christmas!
It probably helps being a 4th gen fighter jet vs a 2nd or 3rd gen.
Hey man there’s no skill based matchmaking in real life 🤣
I'm picturing some Russian smoking a cigarette at a flare factory, mixing the powders by guesswork instead of measuring. "Is ok. It is flare."
Its always weird because I just heard a rumour that the Russian were saying the American aircraft carriers were obcelete
Yeah they’re super outclassed by the Russian ones which happen to be invisible to everyone except the most patriotic of Russian citizens 😂
I do wonder what exactly the US aircraft carriers could be obsolete compared to lol. nobody has anything superior because almost nobody has the budget to afford an equivalent class anyway. though I have seen people try to claim the aircraft carrier concept was obsolete which is just cope because in order for a big boat with jets on it to be obsolete the whole concept of aircraft in warfare would need to be obsolete.
I mean, they aren't wrong. If we operated carriers like the Russian's do, they would indeed be obsolete.
I also read something I don’t remember where but that the pilot also said the Aim 9X took a much longer time to get off the rail than a normal one, showing it malfunctioned
At 3:08 while talking about F-18C jets, they showed 2 F-14s taking off.
Wouldn't it behoove us to purposely manufacture flares so there was variation in how they burned for the purpose of making them more difficult for enemy missiles to ignore?
Cappy has the best give aways. It blows my mind
The Syrian Civil War was such a quagmire of forces working together against ISIS while opposing each other as far as the government and rebels went.
was? still is!
@@jonnyh6978 that's true.
As always good show and info
Just out of curiosity, are the simulated seats as uncomfortable as the actual seats? I might be in the minority buy I took a backseat ride in an A7 while I was in the Navy and after a few hours I felt like I'd been whitewater rafting without the raft. Something I had experience with as a guide and had been thrown out several times in class 4 rapids.
Isn’t class 4 like tubing downstream? The Colorado river is class 10.
Cappy, love your work, but a correction. The last USAF air to air kill was Lt Col Michael Geczy in 1999, according to wikipedia:
"May 4, 1999 - A General Dynamics F-16C Fighting Falcon (Serial Number : 91-0353) shot down a Mikoyan MiG-29 aircraft using an AIM-120 AMRAAM missile. The F-16 was piloted by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Geczy.[49]"
Merry Christmas.
Stay safe, everyone.
A f-18 shooting down a SU-22 is like a a F-16 shooting down spitfire.
More like an f4 shooting down spitefire rather than an f-16
@@djjomann569 yeah but you het my point, itd s pretty unfair comparrison
The AIM9-X has a tandem lock, it incorporates a semi-active radar tracker as well. It was supposed to be the be most lethal air to air missile to date, this was slightly embarrassing.
AIM-9x is a apache variant, not normally used on fighters, fighters normally uses the AIM-23M for high velocity long range attacks
@@questcore636😂 shitebot
@@questcore636What? The AIM-9X along with older variants like the 9M are used on fighters frequently.
Love your videos and your team Cappy!
Im more interested in why the Syrian war is permitted to continue by the UN. It has killed hundreds of thousands, and been going on for many years. Yet the UN is solely concentrated on a recently started war that has only killed a few thousand. That is what I would like investigated fully.
You expect anything useful from the U.N.? 😂😂😂
The UN and US are behind the war. They have supported the rebel and ISIS coalition against the people of syria
Isn’t Syria a civil war/domestic conflict? In that case, the only things the UN could do is prevent outside forces from intervening (Russia and the US are on the security council) and protecting civilians from getting caught in the crossfire
Recently subscribed to your channel. You are a wealth of military knowledge. Were you an A-10 pilot during your active duty. Tom, a Vietnam Navy corpsman veteran.
Does Russia normally fly single ship with no wingman? That su 27 was out there on his own like that? Doesn’t surprise me I guess😂
they have very limited combat capability, 35 year old sanctions has crippled russia's air to ait capability no matter where they're stationed at
Don't enter to win, unless you are ready to buy a $50 coffee mug.
Stock footage of the F-14 while talking about the legacy Hornet?!?
Come on man.
I find your channel fascinating & informative. Looking forward to your broadcasts
Turns out the russian jet wasn't popping flares, it was just so $h't that it was falling apart mid flight due to being constructed by a bunch of orks
I guess having in consistent flares is a good thing for countermeasures, so I hope we can adopt that which should make our flares more effective.
Why the F were we involved in any of this???
It upsets Assadists and other fascists, protecting civilians, protecting trade routes. Obviously if you're in the West you want countries who are friendly to you to control territory, so we can get their resources cheaply so we can have everything from better medical equipment, cheaper cars, and less refugees flooding our borders. It's not rocket surgery. But most of all, upsetting people who wish Hitler won WW2 who mostly support Assad? Always funny.
3:08 I like these F-18Cs taking off from the carrier, strange how similar they look to F-14 Tomcats though
Why the Sidewinder didn't shoot down a cold war ear Su-22 with antique flares? Well, that's because Gaijin has an absurd russian bias!
... wait.
Missiles do go stupid sometimes, but having a spread of temperature IR decoys is just smart.
VFA 87. Off of the Bush. I was on that deployment
How did you know I wanted BRRRRRT in my plumbs for Christmas???
Didn't they say later the AIM-9X didn't ignite rather than spoofed?
we'll never know the full story but I wish I had put that perspective in if thats the case!
The flare details were great, thanks Chris.
Imagine shooting down an aircraft on its own airspace and own sovereign country and yet its Legal. Lol
Civil wars mean that there are two different entities fighting over Sovereignty so Russia is doing exactly the same thing as the US here. also we are there to deal with ISIS when Syria threatens our operations it makes sense to retaliate against the specific target involved.
@@dominuslogik484 Russia was invited US wasnt. Operations on what? Are you operating on a country with a govt standing? Isnt that illegal? Plus, CIA funded the Civil war it was obvious as daylight, where do you think those toyota came from?
@@TGTexan Toyota HiLux usually come from Dubai and are paid for by the organizations themselves. we were in support of the SDF in Syria who the SAA would occasionally attack. we only ever retaliated against the SAA for attacks against the SDF who was important for ground operations against ISIS.
@dominuslogik484 did u forget about the toyota truck with the texas plumbing company logo still on it that ISIS fighters were driving around in
You are welcome to try and arrest the pilot...
Great work as always’ happy holidays!
The question is, wtf has the USA to do in foreign airspace??? Get tf out there!!!
fighting isis lmao
Rules are for weak countries... Oldest rule of diplomacy.. ask the Brits or the Romans even