What Happened to Russia's Doomsday Submarine?
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This is Russia’s brand new 5th generation submarine the Belgorod it’s the world’s largest sub in active use today. But is more bigger, really more better? You might have heard it referred to by its menacing nickname, “Moscow's Doomsday sub” because of its main weapon, the Poseidon intercontinental nuclear torpedo that Russia claims can trigger a tsunami to destroy entire coastal cities. Sounds like a Tom Clancy novel I would read. This new weapon comes at a time when Russia has withdrawn from a global treaty that banned nuclear weapon testing, and made numerous threats of nuclear retaliation. So Is the Belgorod really some new kind of superweapon? Or is it all just russian propaganda to scare you into locking your door and never going outside again. Jokes on them I do that anyway.
Written by: Chris Cappy & Justin Taylor
Edited by: Savvy Studios
Let's put our existential dread about nuclear armageddon aside for just a second so we can look at its unique strategy. I like to think of the Belgorod sub as an underwater mothership. Because While most submarines serve as a launching platform for direct attacks, the Belgorod launches other independent crafts as well. These include their Artificial Intelligence assisted nuclear torpedos, underwater recon drones, and even other smaller submarines. It’s the world's most dangerous underwater Russian nesting doll. All of these systems are launched from the Belgorod, and either return to it once their mission is complete, or are recovered later by separate vessels operated by the 110 crew onboard the sub.
If you’re looking for underwater cryptids like the Megladon this would be a very useful tool. But While all of these are significant capabilities, there’s one problem for Russia. For context the United States Navy has 18 of their Ohio Class submarines. Meanwhile Russia only has one of these Belgorod bad boys. Russia historically is very conservative with its deployment of their latest generation tech like the SU57 jet or T14 tank, and the utilization of them is generally a big deal. That said, because there is only one Belgorod, anytime we observe it making any movement whatsoever this could be an indication of a massive military move on Russia’s part. That’s why when the submarine simply leaves its normal port, we see it making news headlines around the world. It’s the taylor swift of military world unable to get any moment of privacy.
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Keep it up Cappy.
you state that russia just left the nuclear treaty yet it was the USA who did it first and then Russia followed. its like bioweapons the USA funded sars2 and then it gets released during the world mil peace games in wuhan in oct 2019.
The Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) is a multilateral treaty adopted to prevent the proliferation of nuclear weapons in all its aspects.
▫ The main instrument for stopping nuclear weapons tests is the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty adopted by the General Assembly of the United Nations on 10 September 1996.
The Treaty was opened for signature in New York (USA) on 24 September 1996. To date, 187 states have signed the Treaty and 178 countries have ratified it. The Preparatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organisation was established in New York on 19 November 1996 at the first Meeting of States Signatories to the Treaty for the purpose of carrying out the necessary preparations for the effective implementation of the Treaty, in particular to monitor and verify compliance with and detect the proliferation of nuclear weapons.
▫ In 1997, the Provisional Technical Secretariat (PTS) was formed. The CTBT has been ratified by 76 States, including three nuclear-weapon States: Russia, the United Kingdom, and France. Of the remaining eight countries, three have not signed the Treaty: India, the DPRK, and Pakistan; five have signed but not ratified: the United States, China, Egypt, Israel, and Iran.
▫ On 2 November 2023, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law according to which the Russian Federation withdraws its ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty.
▫ The International Monitoring System is an integral part of the Treaty. This is a unique global network, which, when completed, will consist of 321 monitoring stations and 16 laboratories located in 89 countries. In 1997, work on the establishment of the monitoring network commenced. Presently, approximately 90% of these 337 facilities are operational and offer a continuous stream of real-time data. The Russian segment of the IMS consists of 32 facilities.
To bad i warned them of the development over 10 years ago. Its the only thing i know Russia has that works... 2050 they use it in a massive hurricane and level the south east of America but you don't believe in reality so as your friends would say think about it...
The last time we took Russia's word on a weapon systems capability, it resulted in the F-15 which actually surpassed Russia's greatly exaggerated claims.
As long as average NATO trooper fears the war, this weapon is working perfectly as intended.
You can say that but Russian submarines are no joke they have been proven to be very deadly, an Indian kilo sub has taken out a US nuclear sub in a n exercise
@@yspear_ so what? a british sub took part in a Soviet exercise without them even knowing and took pictures of their "new carriers" propellers from underneath. Russia tech is decades behind.
thats not the last time lol, you exaggerated it
@yspear_ Some would argue that there is greater training value in losing and that the US deliberately does so during war games. As a former Boomer sailor, I can say they must not be underestimated, but in my time, most of their sub tech was based on stolen US tech. Stuff we already had. Considering the conflict in Ukraine with their mixed bag establishing technological supremacy, their best bet is their typical "smother the enemy in bodies" tactics. In this case, it will be UAV's, but it remains that precision and finesse have never been their strong points. Modern Aegis systems might have something to say about this, too
Super cavitation is really loud, so it wouldn’t go undetected. You basically boil the water infront of you to create a bubble of steam, witch gives you much less drag than water. Behind you, the steam cools down and turns into water, collapsing the bubble.
Steam has a much bigger volume than water, so the expansion creates a shockwave infront of you and the collapse behind you creates another. That’s loud unless you find a way of having the two waves canceling out.
It's not supercavatating at all, that's a different Russian weapon. The Poseidon drone has a near silent pump jet, nuclear powered with unlimited range.
@@John-hu9qgOr, so they say. Showing a diagram of a torpedo on TV is not even close to the same as fielding a functional weapon.
crazy I wish I had dived deeper into super cavitation at first I thought it was just a pocked of air bubbles around the torpedo . what you're describing sounds nuts
@@Taskandpurpose Its mostly just meant to make the torpedo go really fast.
You better watch out man, those Russian bots are going to seethe and grumble. Might even throw In some whataboutisms and the west this America that
If you know where a submarine is, then it's not doing it's job.
Very interesting video and great delivery. You've come a long way and I like that you're not using any odd inflections in this vidoe, like you have in many previous videos. Keep up the good wrok and do more videos like this where you speak in a normal conversational tone without any odd inflections in your voice.
"Sounds like a Tom Clancy novel I would read half of" 😂😂😂😂😂
Adhd in one sentence
My wife worked with the millitary and she visited a base in Scotland just after the kursk was lost and she was surprised that they had a model of the sub with a small memorial next to it she asked about it and the sgt said we feel sorry because they where sailor's and they were just doing there job .....we used to followed them everywhere.! Not so secretive as they think 🤔
I am going to assume there Submarine is junk just like all their other Technology. If you Learned anything from ukraine. Russia's military is nowhere near on par with the united states. I'll give him their jamming technology. It works so good they jam their own military into being totally ineffective lmao.
Yup. No matter the sides, there's a lot of camaraderie that transcends borders. Also, i sometimes wonder if all nuclear subs operate in a giant conga line in the oceans, all sneakily following and spying on the one in front... 😂😂😂
@@theemissary1313Russki season. Neit! Yankee season.
Both sides had nuclear submarine tragedies. Its not something that sailors are ever happy at hearing about.
@@jamesgornall5731 majority os there for the pay cheque, none of us wants to fight, ok maybe on play station online but thats it.
haha,, you know your number three piston is knocking right?"
- the habital line crosser
Regarding the tsunami claim, it's worth remembering that the Halifax Tsunami of 1917 was caused by 2.9 kilotons of munitions going off accidentally in the Halifax harbor after a munitions ship collided with a relief ship. The tsunami was 18 meters above the high water mark. A nuclear torpedo absolutely could cause such a tsunami, though it would likely not be as massive as claimed.
As with that explosion (the 18m part was nearest to shore), you'd have to do it in shallow water, at which point the blast itself far outreaches any tsunami you can create since there is insufficient water available to matter (and most of it is vaporized). Remember that it takes about a 10-100 gigatons (3 to 4 order of magnitude more) to create any decent tsunami event in deep water, aka a massive earthquake.
Well if they were to launch a tsunami, they would be hit by it as well they have alot of coastline right there too. Soo there that...
@@timothyhosek3551 Thats false
Sadly most people have no real idea how nuclear explosion work and also have understanding problem of simple description. There is claim about making nuclear tsunami. So the water waves would be high for sure taking under consideration how big this torpedo is. But mostly it would generate huge shockwave that certainly would waste costal cities and naval bases without issue. And since it would be fired from huge distance then no ,sub itself wouldn't be damaged.
No doubt this mammoth submarine has been built and is operating according to the highest Russian standards. Just like the Moskva and the Admiral Kuznetzov. I'm sure it's a hugely dangerous vessel - to its own crew.
😂😂
If you watch sub experts like jive turkey and H I Sutton you will see the Russian Sub fleet is probably the only units they actually fund and train fully
If the submarine was Ukrainian or polish he be saying this submarine is better than you think ROFL this guy is so predictable,
@@ibrahimmoncada2710 😂😂 We all know you love Hamas submarines.
Don’t forget the Kursk submarine. As Putin answered “it sank” 😏 with a smirk
The idea that a nuke can create a meaningful tsunami is ridiculous. It might make a decent sized wave but it’s going to instantly vaporize far more water than it will push + a nuclear blast is omnidirectional meaning it will push as much water away from its target and into the air and the sea floor. The U.S. tested this concept in the 50’s, you can watch the video on UA-cam. It would be way more effective against a carrier strike group but way less effective than an air burst. I think like the Su-57 or T-14, this weapon’s main use is propaganda
On it self - no. But if it triggers massive landslide.... in any case: Belograd is apparently successor of specialized submarines for reserch, espionage and similar tasks.
Су-57 лучший боевой самолёт
The Su 57 has taken out Ukrainian Mig 29s and Su 27s from over 200km with the R37M all the way from Russian airspace too, the F22 so far has killed a balloon….
@@Rake3577 taking out a mig-29 or a su-27 is nothing to brag about. That was also in the open days of the war, since then the Ukrainians have learned to easily dodge those missiles and Russia won’t even get close to Ukrainian airspace with the su-57 now because American awacs can see them from Poland. It’s a pretty capable 4+ gen fighter and it’s very good at airshows
I think the couple kilometer wide void suddenly appearing in the water column is what is supposed to make the tsunami. These things are made to blow in deep water.
Super helpful and informative. Thanks!
I love the commercial with high-speed gear and rifle. Excellent!
He said "I can only imagine this is where the catchy song Baby Shark came from which a weapon of mass destruction on its own" while keeping a poker face.
I like the concept of a sub mothership though.
We got one too for a seal team. A modified torpedo tube launches a submersible that can tamper with undersea cables and can also be used to put seals behind enemy lines.
@@pierredelecto7069or plant demo charges on pipelines where the president totally doesn’t brag about it months before it blows.
We already have one
As usual, great content. Don’t let the haters kill your content. I look forward to seeing your report from field 🤙🏾
what field? haters have a point. he's spreading american propaganda
His only hater is reality. That old but consistent bully.
"It's laying off the coast of one of our largest cities and listening to our rock n roll, while it conducts missile drills, and when it is finished the only sound we will hear is their laughter. After this they sail to Havana where the weather is warm and so is the comradeship."
One thing that immediately come to mind, is the Poseidon torpedo is able to operate in such an independent mode, then they could operate from ANY ship or from a shore base and the massive Belgorod mother ship would not be required or even desired.
It gives uncertainty. Sure you can put it on ship or in building, but one can closely monitor said ship or building 24/7 and know how many torpedoes are there and if one was launched. With mothership - it would go underwater and maybe drop some during it's long patrol.
So preemptive or false flag strike on ship or building could end such threat, but strike on mothership open you to the possibility that some nukes chilling near ocean floor would activate at unknown time and attack unknown target.
But Russia certainly has at least one regular ship capable of launching and recovering Poseidon.
America could see everything in the ocean during the cold War using elf/ extreme low frequency
I would sure imagine by now they have more advanced systems to watch the ocen by means of satellites. This guy has no clue saying we don't know where this stuff is America knows all!
The sub offers second strike capability. That is very important for a country which has a second strike doctrine and therefore is unlikely to fire its nukes first.
And it's multipurpose. it will likely never be used in an actual nucular war. But it will surely be used for some spying and maybe even the classic special military operation (no, not that one).
Today's Russia isn't the Soviet Union. Today everything is multipurpose. Just carrying nukes for a war that is unlikely to actually happen doesn't cut it anymore.
Whether the sub itself is actually operational though... who knows. It's still one of the most corrupt countries on earth.
At the same time Russia claims it uses Glonass to navigate that mode..... Yeah, Glonass, their dollar store GPS immitation that's inaccurate, near-useless in the southern hemisphere, doesn't work deep underwater and makes anything using it on the surface or shallowly, fairly easy to track and even easier to disrupt.
Not to mention slapping a couple satelites out the sky would cripple the Poseidon immediatly in that case.
@@nvelsen1975you don't need to be very accurate for a nuclear attack.
5:07 "Just north of Moscow".... you know that's 600 miles, right?
Considering how big Russia is 600 miles isn't too far
Yeah, when he mentioned it in the video I was confused for a second and thought: "Just north of Moscow? Wouldn't it be an absolute nightmare to get large ships and submarines constructed there to the sea? Why would they have their shipyard there, that's so dump."
Excellent stuff bro
Thank you for your work!
Now let's get down to the comments and get expert opinions on submarines and battle torpedoes. It's amazing how many of them there are!
LMAO
This torpedo should be called the Tolstoy, because it's a complete work of fiction presented as fact.
Well if Physics is fiction then yeah
@@dakwaktongnan7618
No, not physics, just the torpedo.
It doesn't exist.
You can tell a russian is lying by the fact that they are talking
Chris hit the nail on the head about how I want to hear the news from Task & Purpose if everything is about to go down the drain in WW3
pretty sure they forgot a : in the project, it should be 9:49AM so you have time to get ready for the 10 o'clock tea
I like how I got a YT ad when ur video/sponsor ad was playing 😆☠️🥴
Cappy churning out the content, lovin the pace
As long as he's not churning out crappy propaganda, he's doing fine.😮
@@paulheydarian1281or stealing other UA-cam scripts word for word
I just love how you title everything coming Russia as "Way worse than you think" 😂
Well, sometimes facts are a stingy thing.
It's one of the main reasons I come to the comments section of UA-cam. To listen to hilarious arrogant ignorance spewing from the mouths of these worshippers of Western military tech. Obviously no military machine built outside the West ever works.
Really really good reporting.
Thanks for keeping DOOMSDAY fun!
From what i've been seeing, most of these high-tech showcases are too difficult and expensive to manage multiples of. Their damn black sea flagship had its defense system partially stripped for parts and most of its defenses couldn't be turned on at the same time. There's a lot of keeping up appearances involved.
Don't have enough to do to much with them.
Yeah the Moskva had the issue where when the radar was on you couldn’t use your radio, so you had to choose between comms and knowing if there was missiles coming at you. And only one of its CIWS was working
Moskva was also a relic of the 70s, it was built as a cheaper alternative to the ultra expensive and highly problematic Kirov battlecruiser. The Kirovs have spent more time in port being fixed than actually underway and they were built in the late 70s/early 80s, and have the laughable distinction of being a nuclear powered cruiser that has such a weak reactor that it has gas turbine engines to provide additional power and can only manage 15kts under nuclear power and 30kts under both nuclear and gas turbine power, while burning fuel at an insane rate and creating a distinctive black smoke cloud it's the "nuclear ship that smokes"
Good to see so many nuclear defense experts in the comments section
Yep. Braggin about russian search-and-rescue special purpose sub ability to stand against 18 US Ohio's
“Each the size of a school bus”
My brain: wow that’s a lot of children…
It's the worst feeling in the world to be heartbroken but being heartbroken and submarineless is a horrible fate
Dude your graphics are my favorite reminds me of want me and my some of my class mates used to do for our journalism class. Deliver serious info in the corniest way possible. Hilarious thanks for the videos. Somehow your humor tamps down my
ex”T”istential doom fear. Thank you for your work good stuff.
my wording is very difficult haha thank you for the kind words man I really appreciate it !
@@Taskandpurposedon’t compliment the beta male crappy, please 🙄
I can see it now....... A russian built, three decade old, nuclear powered, nuclear armed submarine operated by conscripts from a nearby prison.
What could possibly go wrong?
YOu lie, pichka. It's not 3 decades old. Its the most modern sub on earth. And RUssian submarines never use conscripts. only professional contractors. IF you want it can checked on your country.
They don't use conscripts for stuff like this, only infantry.
@@SpinoDude88 Yes, and their nuclear safety record is perfect. Just ask them.
@@AlexanderTch someone angered the vatnik bots lmao
Oh. I forgot, the idiots from which country lost atomic bombs during a normal flight in their country? I think it's the USA?
"...I would read half of"...🤣👍
Tom Clancy in here catching strays, lmao
Seeing something that big go 37mph would be nutty lol
This thing has been tinkered on so many times by so many contractors that i would seriously question its safety.
It's just your dream. You hate Russia and it makes your soul sick. So, you try to tell bad things about Russia and its weapons . So, it makes you calm. But your country is going down. YOu'll see.
I'm wondering if they still have the same type of torpedoes on it that exploded and made the Kursk sink itself
@@NJbldragon We have different types of torpedoes, dont' worry. And types are different from that that sank US Submarine Scorpion some time ago.
@@AlexanderTch”some time ago”, lol!! You think? That was in 1968: ten years before I was born and my kid just finished law school.
UK use glue to fix subs!!!And u say this????
I’ve getting some real Tirpitz vibes coming from that thing
That torpedo sounds like a wet dream just like they are the best army in the world.
Second best army in Ukraine!😂😂
O those aircraft carrier s r sitting ducks were Gona lose allthem
Captain Ramius: Hey, Ryan, be careful what you shoot at. Most things in here don't react too well to bullets.
"I have to be careful at what **I** shoot at?!"
Where is the sub...?
It's hiding in a river, in Maine.
Russia's submarine fleet is the only thing they have in the water that actually exists and is reasonably effective in what it does
Wheir new corvetes and ffigates are good too
Facts
It works perfectly as deterrence to prevent nuclear war
same with turkish nato submarine will rich against that russian submarines in black sea same happen other sea and Ottomans take over byzanties for ottoman ship conqueror to constiniople 1453 ad İstanbul.
Big n sturdy is also heavy n slow; BUT if undetectable #?
"We cannot allow a Poseidon Torpedo Gap!"
Its like the Typhoon-Class for the 21st century. I bet it has a sauna for its crew, too!
If russias “5th gen fighters” are anything to go by (they don’t actually exist) then I doubt this exists or ever will
The Poseidon is also supposed to use a cobalt salted nuke, essentially acting as a radiological second-strike to render port cities uninhabitable to 100 years or so.
As well as everything/everyone downwind. Putie bird obviously thinks he's safe in his underground bunker "cage".
@@dananorth895 What especially f-d up is the nuclear powered cruise missile they are supposedly trying to develop. How irresponsible to you have to be to design a flying nuclear reactor. The US played around with the idea in the 50s and realized how insane it was.
I heard it's cobalt thorium g
@@spencerstevens2175 you definitely learned to love the bomb.
TASS even said it was a regular 2MT device .... totally impossible to create a 500mt tidal wave !
To get the full value of joy you must have someone to divide it with.
Sounds like a Tom Clancy novel I'd read HALF of!! Had me DYING!! BAHAHAHA
Its a carrier just underwater, which is useful against an air superiority focused enemy
Until the first P8 arrives on scene.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
I'm thinking the nuclear torpedo uses batteries for propulsion, and receives its nuclear power generation from the mothership, so once it's launched, it's on batteries until it explodes or returns (it's possible it's designed to be a recoverable torpedo) but I imagine that's insanely provocative since anyone who detects it in motion on its own power needs to assume it's heading for a target.
That thing looks so loud that they can probably track it from space
the question here is what medium do they use to hold contact with this drone, since it´s over a long distance and in the water there is only a few things that come to my mind like sound waves, since there are already massive underwater microphones ... ?
As a former naval person who chased submarines for a living, I can assure you that the comments that such a large nuclear-powered torpedo would be undetectable is highly unlikely. It would have an acoustic signature that the SOSUS network could track and localize. However, like so much of the Russian bluster, I think it is more or an imaginary terror weapon, designed to frighten without much effort to actually make into an actual weapon. Nice work on this one, Cappy
I agree with you to but I think both side do too much propaganda, that’s why F-117 was knocked down for the same reason , and there so much unfair judgements towards Russia arsenal and the USA arsenal always perfect like in top gun movies that’s ridiculous and you have a lot of sovietic equipment being added to pentagon backyards for studies like the resent SU-27 why they doing that for ?
Umm i highly doubt sosus would be online by the time doomsday nuclear weapons are deployed.
Don't forget about acoustic/sonar decoys that would be used in a wartime setting. Russia is decent with countermeasures. Truth be told we wouldn't know til it happens... so I hope we never know.
And then do what? Apart from the fact that there is no SOSUS operating anymore when this thing passes through.
Commentary here and even this channels narrarator has no clue. We had elf since at least the 80s that could monitor the entire ocean and I'm sure we have even better systems now that utilize satellites. With lydar
I think the Russians have been watching too much Thunderbirds XD lol
How big - YES
Stealth - Whats That
They should make a luxury yacht or cruise ship out of same chassis. Can go underwater with it. Be cool for guests to see
If the torpedo is nuclear powered with 7 months endurance and uses AI, why does it need to be launched from a submarine at all? Couldn't they just treat it as an unmanned submersible in its own right and just lauch it from a shipyard? Then size wouldn't be an issue and only having 1 sub that can launch them wouldnt be either. It seems more kamikaze unmanned sub than torpedo anyway.
Okay, I'm ready to win that motorcycle now.
An explosion occurred at Nenoska roughly 10 years ago testing that torpedo
Wait, wouldnt the poseidon's high speed cavitation thingy contradict its slow movement stealth abilities
Depends on how fast they decide to move it
Use the high speed setting for a final run. Slow speed to creep towards the target area.
@@christopherconard2831:
You do know what you speak about!
i think its interesting Russia never covered up the propeller for the Belgorod like other navies do for the newest subs, i wonder why that was?
Poor OPSEC.
Because it's not a newest sub. It's a refitted older sub.
'Half read Tom Clancy book'. The only one I finished was Red October. 😂
I am getting Hunt for Red October 2 Vibes right now! Submarine warfare is fascinating to study. Whether or not Russia has this capability, it's just fun to study and talk about it. Thanks for another educational video Capy!
Thank you for being, 1 of just 6 people who have common sense and doesn't just throw out his or her personal opinions as if they are facts....I love you lol
I'm getting Kursk sub vibes from it.
That was a horrible PC game
I have just spilled my tea for you, on the floor,comrade Joey.
Super cavitation torpedoes make a hell of a lot of noise and will very easy to pick up. Also all the noise blinds the torpedo so it can't target anything. sm
Just imagine none of the Russian engineers thought of that... and you'll even have to completely avoid listening carefully to this video to come to your conclusion too.
Good job!
They dont have homing heads, or at least the verson the soviets used. It just went out a set range and set its nuke off. Newer ones Russia and Germany use have homing, but the torpedo has to slow down to get a fix and then speed back up for the attack run.
Tsunami torpedoes. that's some 007 villain level hilarity..
I, too, am usually left submarineless.
This may have been said…
Why do you need a sub when the Poseidon can travel 10k miles. Especially, if the torpedo can be recalled and return on its own.
Why not just drop the sub in the water and let it go.
Maybe the whole project and capabilities are thus exagerated or even false...
We are one step closer to the Outer Haven. Nuclear armed bipedal tanks must be a matter of time.
Yooo Metal Gear reference lets goooo
Never underestimate your enemy !
😮 Well I clicked on the link and I didn't see anything about that motorcycle to be given away😅
That’s an expensive looking future coral reef
Except this thing can basically kill you from beyond the grave if it gets one of those nuclear torpedoes away.
@@killman369547 we know exactly where this sub is and what it is doing at all times. We have defense systems that can handle hundreds of such warheads launched at once. This isn’t insurgents in a cave. This is exactly what we’re prepared to deal with.
@@Matt-xc6sp remember when the soviets manage to take a picture of the liberty statue from their sub in the cold war?, i dont think you are safe from the nuke chief
@@Suckmabalzz “the liberty statute”
Condolences on you not being American lol
Also fat lot of good it did them. Really gave the soviets a leg up and helped them win the Cold War. Wait. We won that one.
I thought Poseidon, detonated off the coast underwater, was their 'secret' weapon?
Poseidon was vranyo.
That is the Russian word for when Russians tell you a lie and they know that you know they're lying.
It's kind of like Eskimos having multiple words for snow.
@@macmcleod1188agreed. Russians are having an egg shortage, how do they expect to build high tech weapons when they can’t even figure out how to source chicken feed?
@@macmcleod1188 it's "vranyo," and while you're not wrong, it's an incomplete definition. Vranyo is: I'm lying, you know it, I know you know it, we both know this is bullshit *but you will* engage with it and nod along as if it is for real.
Edit: a more succinct definition is "mutually cooperative horseshit" - it requires both parties to genuinely engage in the same fairy tale, both knowing it is nonsense.
@@TKUA11 the egg Market is really weird right now. We found that the major Western egg companies were colluding on prices and ripping us off the tune of 25% higher prices and claiming it was inflation when it was just excess profits.
It's not secret. Who said it was secret. Putin announced it for entire globe. But of course technical details are secret and not many people know it.
Very good video, explaines alot.
Christopher, where the hell did the beard go? 😂😂
That big American flag in the thumbnail is probably a car dealer.
Or a cult/church
I would think the Poseidon torpedoes have to surface on occasion to get positioning from the Glonass system, or at least trail an antenna on the ocean surface. Not very stealthy at all.
Iirc, Russia has developed exceptionally fast torpedoes. Most torpedoes are capable of something like 60-80 nmph, they have some that are capable of something absurd like 200 nmph with super cavitation, they're not great for taking out moving ships, but nuclear torpedoes don't have to be accurate because they have much larger yields. We had nuclear air to air missiles for shooting down whole squadrons 60+ years ago, they had a blast radius of 1/4 mile, which would knock out any aircraft within a few miles of the detonation
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@@usonumabeach300 but- the super fast hyper cavitation one is dumbfire, has no guidance system, and is only really any use for firing at a task force in hope of taking carrier out if get lucky..
and the more normal but really fast ones use hydrogen peroxide as fuel- and its a bitch. They need constant maintenance or are prone to lethal malfunction..
so WELL suited to Russian navy lol.
Hearing Severodvinsk be described as "just north of Moscow" when it in fact is a sixteen hour drive away according to Google Maps...
Supercaviation is an interesting idea, but every time I hear it, I hear ancilary capabilities that don't make sense. One is that supposedly it is stealth. Normal caviation is something you want to avoid because of the tremendous noise it makes. Supercaviation would be orders of magnitude louder. And then there is the active sonar tracking. To send and receive signals you need to get the transducer to the water. SC systems work by enveloping entire missile into a cavity. So how is the transducer supposed to make contact? Maybe it is possible, but I remain a bit skeptical.
Just like how Russia claims its missiles are hypersonic. ALL ballistic missiles are hypersonic by definition. It means exactly as much as saying, "my tank is metal." Coincidentally, turns out Russias missiles are about as effective as its tanks.
LoL, What coastal city could we live without? San Francisco? New York? That might actually be helpful....
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Glad to know I’m not the only person who’s only read half of Tom Clancy books 💀 I just never finish them
I see two guys in Moscow, smoking a doobie, saying "Yeah! That's cool man. But what if it could do x? Oh man! That would be sooo sweet.Let's say that!".
Or involving Homer Simpson in the design
I nominate L.A.
Ok ok, im confuse now Cappy, for Poseidon's warhead, is it 100 KILOTONS??? (which is highly probable to fit on the small, nuke powered uuv) or 100 MEGATONS (designed power of TSAR BOMBA)
it is M. 100 Megatons of course
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What Happened to Russia's Doomsday Submarine? - She's been subjacked
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Belograd has been in construction since 90s - same class as Kursk. It had gone through numerous redesgins to 949AM variant and now is rough analogue of US SSN-23 Jimmy Carter :specialized boat built on regular design of combat vessel. PS: on thumbnail there's 941 - Typhoon.
You lie. USA does not have anything similar to Oskar-II Russian subs. Belgorod just looks similar but some is compleltely new , even nuclear reactor is different.
@@AlexanderTch the ohio class SSGN does the exact same thing as the belgorod was designed to before the collapse of the soviet union as for after its redesign all it really does is be a mothership for smaller subs/torps something the jimmy carter is also able to do though on a smaller scale. The reality is the west has no need of that kind of capability because unlike Russia we rule the worlds oceans with surface fleets and have large enough fleets of boomers to have a continuous SSBN deterrent.
@@leojohn1615 You lie, or you don't know simple things. Ohio class is strategic intercontinental ballsistic missiles carrier. It's counterpart of Russian Delta-IV and Delta-III subs.
Ohio are not intentended to do anti -ship strikes. Belgorod is Oskar-II class sub. It does not carry any strategic missiles. It carried 24 ! long range heavy anti ship missiles. So, they are supposed to destroy american ships, first of all aicrfaft-carrying groups. So, it was intended for naval battles, not for nuclear strikes.
Ohio class was designed in 70s, ancient sub, and due to lack of finances and engineers to build something new, Americans try to update to for other tasks, with no big success.
Don't worry, Russia also has subs that are mother ships for tiny submarines. Programs are very classified like those about subs with very deep diving abilities.
@@AlexanderTch while yes the Ohio class were originally designed as SSBNs to carry nuclear missiles the first four were refitted to carry tomahawk cruise missiles. While tomahawks are mostly designed to hit land based targets the block Va version is capable of anti ship targeting. Not to mention the Virginia class subs which all carry VLS tubes fitted with tomahawk missiles. As for the age of the Ohio class subs they may be old but they are still substantially quieter than most boats.
@@leojohn1615. For perspective... the ohio class subs are so quiet, they are literally a hole in the water. They are quieter than the ambient noise around them. They can literally cruise off the side of the best Russian sub and they would never know they were there. Been done. They are the Raptor of the water. No one, NO other sub even comes close.
The main concern I would have is that Russia's navy logistics chain doesn't really have a stellar reputation, and the longer this sub is in port, the more vulnerable it is to things like missing equipment or neglected maintenance.
Some parts would be easy to sell
Their crappy air craft carrier says it all.
Also how easily the Moskva was sunk is another red flag of big problems.
Ukraine will turn it into a reef
or one cheap Ukrainian drone
One of the myriad reasons Moskva sank was all the firefighting equipment was locked up to prevent theft and only the captain has the key, who wasn't present 😂
"Imitates the sound of civilian ships" aka couldn't afford to engineer it to be quiet
Isn't Impersonating civilian ship a war crime btw?
"That's like a Tom Clancy novel I'll read half of." Half is generous.
The flaw of the Poseidon is the longer it travels, the slower it goes through the water, and the faster it goes the easier it is to detect. At 10,000 kilometer max range, the Poseidon's speed would be limited to around 6 knots making a time to target measured in weeks with a nuclear heat signature that would give it away no matter how quiet it was to sonar.
That is the max distance it can travel, but it will not be launched from such a distance, it would be launched maximum 2000-4000km away, and it would most likely start slow and speed up at the last 1000-500km, and if 6-12 of these torpedoes are launched at different targets, would be next to impossible to intercept all if any.
@@duuke4618 If the Belgorod closed to within 4000 km of the U.S. coastline, it wouldn't be able to launch anything. Oscar IIs are noisy by today's standards and it would have any number of much stealthier Virginia and Seawolf class subs lurking undetected nearby keeping an eye on it plus Poseidon anti submarine aircraft flying overhead, and Destroyers on the surface warning Belgorod away, or else. If those warnings are ignored, the moment Belgorod opened her bow doors, a torpedo would send her to the bottom before the first Poseidon cleared the tube.
Why?
@@andreimoutchkine5163 For the same reason drag racers can't take on the 24 hours at Lemans. Heat build up, stress and structural fatigue.
@@icemanzw Nuclear reactors have limited life spans and they are vulnerable to overheating. The compact reactor used in the Poseidon is, by necessity, bare bones so its' gas type reactor cooling system can either manage maximum power for a short time, or minimum power for a long time, but excessive heat build up is going to happen either way which is bad for the reactor and the other electronics systems, so range is not unlimited, otherwise the Russians wouldn't put a maximum 10,000 kilometer range in the specs.
Believe Putin or the CIA? Hmm, that's a tough one!, seriously!
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Chris, no way man.. You must live around Bwater or Somerville? I know that stretch of road very very well lol
I see what you did there with the Ocean Gate clip.
Super-cavitating torpedoes would be very difficult to develop for most applications because the high speed does not allow for any sonar guidance, until and unless it slows down. The assumed application would be nuclear warhead, ie precision not required.
The U.S. Mark 48 torpedo is given initial course and speed of a target but, periodically slows to do a search and confirm the original data. If it finds the target far off the predicted position, it commences to do an active search and recalculate a new predicted position. Eventually, it gets close enough to the target hull that its active sonar will get solid returns at high speed. Then it goes in for the kill.
We’re also going to ignore that super cavitations torpedos work by forming a bubble around the torpedo meaning virtually no guidance. Super fast but short range and for why? A a 50 knot torpedo that can chase down a vessel for 30-40 minutes is just much more useful. As for nuclear delivery, we have SLBMS for that. The only useful nuclear torpedo is the Poseidon.
Do you remember when the West said Russia couldn't produce titanium hulled subs? You have to take it all with a grain of salt.
Yeah the fact they still burn like nothing else is amazing. We didn't think they couldn't we thought they wouldn't. We've had the airplane since the 70s. Why not a sub? Because it's a horrible idea.
Why because titanium hulled Russian subs could out dive and out run contemporary NATO asw torpedoes meaning we had to design new weapons. I don't support the notion that all Russian kit is rubbish or world beating but I do like to see a balanced analysis. Russian tanks losing their turrets is due to the bad practice of keeping loose shells in the turret. No one's kit is world beating or infallible.
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I think at this point the belgorod with its armaments has entered the meme sphere of the kuznetsov , the armata and the su 57 :D
Russias new submarine is the first new Russian vessel that actually is supposed to be underwater