I recently saw Roger Waters on his tour. He had a story in text on the screens while they played Wish You Were Here, about how he and Syd decided to start a band. It was very touching.
Yes, I was very impressed with the character of the band members that they would have supported him through all of the difficulty involved in dealing with his behavior.
@@nunyafunyuns they made sure he got his royalties for his contributions on the second album and they even produced some songs on his solo album. One thing for sure is that they loved syd but that schizophrenia rumor roger started is way off. Syd got better not too long after but just stopped making music because he didnt feel special as his sister said. In the end he lived somewhat of a peaceful normal life.
@@elliottg.1954 If I'd no other reference points and someone said that's a picture of Mr. Nick Mason in the present day, then I could be fooled... except that I've seen the DVD of 'Nick Mason's Saucerful Of Secrets', and I know that he no longer has a moustache.
It's a distorted sort of ending chant to me. Like the rolling credits sort of thing. The on you go now but it sounds like an unhappy journey is to be onset. Eerie
oh yea he was clearly the catalyst for pink floyd, he just went a little too far and became lost his way back.. too bad too cuz can you imagine what a pink floyd would have been if he had made it back and kept with the band? slightly high but totally functional? pretty sure there wouldn't have been the tussles as they would have worked it all out... OK, all 3 of us write and collaborate just like the beatles so forth.. instead of having the eagles, CCR, pink floyd type power struggles and break ups
@@deandee8082 Yup - Likewise, it’s pretty hard to fault Peter Green for chucking it all when you look at the train wreck that FM became in terms of personal dynamics brought on by mega stardom 5 or 6 years later. I’m always torn between the impulse to sing my praises of his genius to the oblivious latter day fans, and the understanding that his fragile soul was probably spared a more terrible fate the day he walked away. RIP Greeny and Syd.
Those memorable early sounds of Floyd were definitely attributable to the unique influence of Syd .Whereas there has for some time been a mystique ( together with many stories ) surrounding him , this remains his true and cherished legacy .R.I.P.
There were several musicians in the 1960’s who dropped out of the scene rather than trying to make it big. They preferred artistry over stardom. Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer of Fleetwood Mac and Stu Sutcliffe of the Beatles also come to mind.
Truth be told Stu died before Beatles reached fame. Your point remains, the scene itself was such that more sensitive, introspective and less "go-getter" attitude people actually reached wider audiences. Really a crazy time now that you think about it, especially comparing it to what's happenning today
1 off the band went to uni .... others rather average working class families ( smart lads ) , at that time money was in very short supply in uk..... england took 20+years to emerge from WW2..... 100% NOT POSH STUDENTS 🇬🇧
Norman Smith (famous as a producer) is also known as a one-hit-wonder -- had a good novelty hit record (#1 in USA - Cashbox) in the '60s "Oh Babe, What Would You Say?" He also produced the band Barclay James Harvest -- who still record & perform today but mostly in Europe. First real rock opera -- S.F. Sorrow by The Pretty Things (this was before The Who's "Tommy"). Smith also was the engineer on many early Beatles songs until 1965.
They need to do a Motion Picture about him. Think about it almost all of the big time Rock N Roll Movie Biopics end in the same way. This story is unique in all sorts of ways. Very few bands have made it thru 2 lead singers and be different in popularity. Pink Floyd had 3 Phases of popularity with different styles. Roger Waters and David Gilmore may seem the same until you take Rogers political and ideology out of the songs and you have none of that in Gilmore's just like Syd Barrels pop music was not Waters and Gilmours. You can have 3 different major actors to play these roles with all 3 interchanging and connecting one with the other.
Ah yes I love that one. The way the lyrics blend in with the music have always reminded me of Bike. Each of them perfectly encapsulates that unique and somewhat off-beat British psychedelic romanticism.
I think that Sys Barrett was a seed that, although it fell on the ground, GAVE US MANY FRUITS THAT WE ENJOY TODAY, apart from ANY JUDGMENT OR SPECULATION. !
The style of the band at this point was heavily indebted to the first Pink Floyd album, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, but filtered through their own color spectrum. The Pink Floyd connection went beyond mere sonic hat tipping, since Alice Cooper played host to Pink Floyd on the British band's first U.S. tour. “We were the house band at the Cheetah for a period of time in ’67,” Smith recalls. “One of the perks was we could go see any of the bands playing there. Pink Floyd were there one week. I remember the first or second song they played, Syd went up to sing and boom! A spark came from the microphone and hit his lip. He just put his arms down to his sides, backed about a foot away from the stand and just stood there like a statue for the rest of the night. After the show, they came back to our house and partied with us all night long. Syd walked in like a zombie. He didn’t talk to anybody, he just stood there. He seemed a bit psychotic, and the mass quantities of LSD certainly didn’t help.” Read More: Alice Cooper Drummer Neal Smith Recalls the Early Days | ultimateclassicrock.com/alice-cooper-neal-smith-interview-2018/? Those bastards didn't even take him to the hospital even after he was electrocuted on stage.
"Those bastards" is a bit unfair I think. Syd went down in a hole and band was worried but didn't realise how far it would lead. I don't think you go to hospital if you don't get physically hurt by electricity.
His songs are quite different than the famous later songs . But the band became about interpreting his inner experience - which was a huge guess , because that boy was GONE . " You missed the starting gun . " " Threatened by shadows . " " Hey you . " Letters to the missing Syd .
Syd's role in the founding the group can't be minimized. That being said, most bands that have made it to success and notoriety experienced line up changes and shake ups in the early stages of their development. Barret made one and part of another of Pink Floyd albums. In most cases these changes are rarely more than foot notes in the bands history. His renown comes on two things, one was how important he was as a friend to Waters, and Wright and Mason and how his mental breakdown effected them (and Gilmour too) which continued to influence many of the themes that they explored in their music, and the fact that it was so explored. It is impossible to really surmise what level of ingenious or lack there off that may or may not have developed in him as musician through time. His story is tragic and profound. Pink Floyd would not have developed to be what they became without him in the beginning, or with him in as time evolved. That is the paradox behind the whole Pink Floyd Dynamic. As Mason stated, there would never have been a Dark Side of the moon had it not been for Syd. But if they had not of gone on with out him, as difficult as it was to come to terms with for them, there would not have been a Dark side of the moon.
Pink floyd for sure wouldve been shockingly big with syd. Syd was coming up with ideas and they called him crazy or laughed at him yet later on roger would steal those same ideas and get called a genius for it yet the songs would get big. Not to mention syd even created punk rock (vegetable man) yet they didnt release it because he was deemed as crazy and thats why so many 80 punks were so hooked on syd and even wanted him to produce music for them. Maybe pink floyd wouldnt have been as big if he stayed but I doubt it because look at all the legendary things syd accomplished just off that 1 album. Jimmy page compared syd to jimi hendrix, hendrix was a fan of syds and even performed with him, David bowie was heavily influenced by syd, the beatles the whos and even more great groups loved pink floyd when syd was around. Yall can keep coming up with this narrative for as long as you please but truth be told syd was the soul of that group before and after. Roger was an amazing writer yes but none of them come close to syds small catalog of lyricism.
I swear to you, truly love the marching band Salvation Army circus in the song, maybe I’ll never be a fancy smug English producer but I think it works for the song very much
@@hippydippy Norman 'Hurricane' Smith was the engineer on all of the EMI studio recordings by the Beatles until the autumn of 1965 when EMI promoted him from engineer to producer. The last Beatles album he recorded was Rubber Soul and Smith engineered the sound for almost 100 Beatles songs in total. Had a hit himself ua-cam.com/video/wJdkCs5RdQg/v-deo.html
@@fungus2116 It's pretty well documented that Sid overdid it with acid one fatal weekend (either voluntarily or otherwise) and never got his marbles back.
Try not to compare him to the latter pink floyd. You have to investigate the time that he was making music in, and in the time it was credible. Incredible critically.
if every one leaves a comment that states click thumbs up to reinstate the lost gems of syd barrett a true originator,we could get the ball rolling here.
We like, some even love (the thought of) Syd/Roger, because losing one's sanity and therefore whole life is deeply tragic and especially when the individual showed so much potential and was warm, kind-hearted, charismatic, and attractive to both Women and "some'' Men.. lf the God's - the forces outside of our perception that 'move' life as a whole - had been kinder to him he may have been another David Bowie..
@ThePostmarxist I agree. Can someone loop it so it goes on for like 90 minutes or so. "Elder in a sweater, who may or may not have just stuck an appendage in a light socket, talks about tracking down the Salvation Army Band."
In his day he was charismatic he was the guy you wanted to hang around with. his vision with music was years ahead of most musician's. sadly his addiction took him to a place where it was a point of no return
I heard Syd wanted the bell ringer from the Salvation Army collection pots only, not the whole band, so he left in a huff. A young Mike Oldfield knew the story, and built his epic 'Tubular Bells' cycle around this theme.
"His relatively small musical legacy" I disagree. Yes, Syd was musically active for just a few short years but his impact on music should never be overlooked or underestimated. He lay the foundations for what Pink Floyd would become. Plus the fact that David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Paul Weller and Damon Albarn have all cited Syd as one of their main influences speaks volumes.
Small/short in time duration, huge in legacy. Perhaps that's all he was meant to do, but it was certainly enough. Media likes to focus on what didn't happen as those it is a tragedy instead of what did happen as a celebration.
Roger is the only one who has kept the faith with the 60s head and freak revolutionary vibe. Syd wasn’t the commercial end of Floyd. His songs reflect Cambridge folk tradition after all Cambridge Folk festival is still a leader.
I think, according to many interviews around Syd Barrett, David gilmour took his place on the band, but on the other hand, saved the band carrer. His a great guitar player and the band needed him at that time. I think so, but right me if I'm wrong.
Matheus Zugaib from what I have read and heard I don't think that was the initial purpose of Gilmour joining the band, but Syd deteriorated so quickly that it appeared that way. I am sure they would have continued as a 5 piece but it just couldn't be done. i cannot even Imagine what might have happened had Gilmour not joined the band. I cannot imagine a world without Pink Floyd; they arguably did more to shape rock an roll than anyone except for maybe Elvis Presley. Dark Side of the Moon = greatest album of all time.
Mr. Gilmour helped the band to become so much more professional. Watch a 1967 vs. a 1969 performance, it is a revelation. Mr. Gilmour also brought the musical feel to the band which they really needed. He did not write as many songs as Mr. Waters did but overall the stamp he put onto Pink Floyd is so much bigger than the plain number of songs he wrote. Their best moments where not when Syd Barrett was there but when Mr. Waters lyrics and edgy ideas combined with Mr. Gilmour's melodic feel. Pink Floyd would not have survived the next 3 years with Mr. Barrett. Not only because of his "sickness", but also because artistically he never developed further from the things he wrote '65 - '66. Overrated.
Syd correlated the band, and they put out some really weird stuff, but I found it interesting, David Gilmore, took the weirdness, and made it work, both brilliant artists.
I think Gilmour was a great replacement for Barrett, I think he fit perfect and Syd Barrett was steadily going down deeper into depression and mental illness, it would have ruined tne band. Having Gilmour step in afforded Pink Floyd the opportunity to continue on and become one of the best, if not the best ( best in my opinion ) psychedelic bands of all time. Gilmour is a legend !!
Norman Smith and Syd Barrett came from very different worlds. Syd was by and large a free spirit, wildly embraced the free-form and he wrote accordingly. Norman was from an earlier era, where everything was adhered to in a professional manner. Quite simply, Norman could never understand where Syd was coming from, and Syd couldn't understand where Norman was coming from. Two totally different work ethics. Syd heard the end of "Jugband Blue" and pictured a Salvation Army band just haphazardly playing their instruments with no degree of order, total chaos. Norman could not conceive that idea no matter how hard he tried to, because it was alien for him to do. Given their total inability to work together in a coherent fashion, they still crafted a beautiful and haunting piece for the track... I can't picture it being any better than what came out, if it were more structured it would have changed the flow completely.
It came out as good as you say it did because Mr.Smith put the work in..Syd fucked off..remember?,,You wrote more than 7 lines when you could have written only 1..
glass house No, it came out the way it did because Norman gave in and let Syd have his way. And who cares how many lines I write? If you don't like what I have to say, then don't read it.
If the story is as Smith said it was..Barrett was indifferent to the production..He (smith) could write the brass score for the song..Syd couldn't,or didn't wish to at that time..I'm not trying to dis-credit the unmistakable talent of Syd;but non-professionalism doesn't get the job done....Yes,I agree they were of different eras' and ages etc..but that's how work get 'produced'..by the go steady Gregs..Not the flighty artist;as left to them,not much would be discovered,recorded and layed down/taped,even within themselves..
..I didn't 'dislike' how many lines you wrote..I just said it was unnecessary and too long winded..And as far as is who knows best is concerned,that;d be the record producer..Not the 'artist'..Excepting rare occasions...Not a matter of 'giving in'..like it's some sort of ego battle..
According to Alan Parsons, David Gilmore did the entire Dark Side of the Moon completely stoned ... watch the Live at Pompeii. You have your answer! Just LOOK a Davids eyes when he say's "...We're not a drug band..."
They were known first as The Tee Set then Sigma 6 before settling of The Pink Floyd Sound named after two Bluesmen Syd liked Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Eventually they dropped The and Sound from their moniker.
a Beatles fan by far....So as sorry as I am to hear of his death..I know his was outstanding...and will in my heart be great...but...he did use a lot of LSD..and that from what i hear cased him to separate from the world and pass away..RIP SYD..
What became of Syd Barrett from the 1970's to 2006? I know he lived with his mother, so I guess he didn't need to be in a hospital? Did he know about "Dark Side of the Moon" or "The Wall"? Did he continue to paint or was he still able to express his artistic nature in other ways after his breakdown?
David Dennis he did. He showed up in the studio when they were recording Dark Side of The Moon. I realized it was during The Wall Album that was when Syd had shown up. That was after I posted my reply above. I remember Richard saying that David cried.
@Jan Hoyle Actually, that famous unexpected studio walk-in by Syd was during the recording of "Wish You Were Here", particularly when they were doing the final recording of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was rather ominous and apparently made both Roger and David weep, because what they used to know as Syd Barrett, as David described him, "a slender, elegant, figure" now stood before him as a bloated, eyebrow-less, hair-less man. That sight of him after all those years, was what made David realize, according to him, that Syd was never going to have that return that David especially had hoped he would have. Richard is talked about/rumored to've said that Syd asked to be shown where he needed to plug in his guitar to do his part, to which he had to be sadly told, "sorry Syd, all the guitar parts are done." And if this part of it really happened, that's pretty sad. It's as if Syd thought he was still a member of the band after being gone from the group (with no one knowing anything of him) for 4-5 years.
The only reason they made the wall was to separate them from the audience. seems they all where a bit crazy. I personally think syds music was hard for me to enjoy all though I love Pink Floyd .
+Conlaoch Cattan It was Waters who wanted to be isolated from the audience. His inability to deal with them led to almost pathological hatred (he once spat at them apparently) The only way he would tour the album was if he could find a way not to be near or isolated from the audience. Hence the building of an actual wall instead of say just playing the music as per normal.
I have that same statue that's in the background when the old guy is talking . Which is the man hanging on the lamp post that looks like a nightshade on it .Mine is a bottle for Alcohol that has a music box on the bottom .The tune is ," how dry I am ".Wonder if mine was modified of that one .
The house at 183 Hill Road did have a basement. That's the house his mother had and where he lived in the early 1970s before the Hilton in London then the Chelsea Cloisters apartment. When he left London and came back to Cambridge at the end of the 1970s, his mother had sold that house and moved to 6 St Margarets Square. it was that latter house where Syd/Roger lived until his death in 2006. it didn't have a basement. How do I know this? I wondered about the basement issue as well, and found that the 183 Hill Road house was later sold in the 1990s and had a diagram of all the rooms including the basement.
Well, thanks for complimenting Motown, which is near where I live, and I like Motown music. I don't see, of course, the influence of Motown in your own original art rock/progressive/classical/psychedelic music. But thanks for mentioning the Motor City anyway. And I do like Pink Floyd, and you are a great band. You are still very interesting from the Syd Barrett era. I'm surprised after all these years, that when I get around to listening to it, that the early era of Pink Floyd is so interesting. It was sad to see the history of Syd's mental health issues.
As a 70yo, I can honestly say, Floyd is the only band I feel
just as excited to listen to today as I did the first time I
heard them :)
I'm 29 and I'm sure Ill finish like you bro
@@juliencasado670 there simply is no
band like them eh :)
I am 54 and just truly discovering them today. I was punk new wave jazz classical music guy.
@@markntexas8265 I always think of them as
a muso´s band :)
King Crimson
I recently saw Roger Waters on his tour. He had a story in text on the screens while they played Wish You Were Here, about how he and Syd decided to start a band. It was very touching.
R.I.P. Syd..Thanks For All You Gave Us..Gone But Definitely Not Forgotten. 🙏 ❤
Heartbreaking brilliance. Glad the band continued to pay tribute to and support him after they went huge.
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Yes, I was very impressed with the character of the band members that they would have supported him through all of the difficulty involved in dealing with his behavior.
Yes especially the financial aspect. VERY few bands would do that for an ex member without being sued first. Floyd are stand up guys.
@@nunyafunyuns they made sure he got his royalties for his contributions on the second album and they even produced some songs on his solo album. One thing for sure is that they loved syd but that schizophrenia rumor roger started is way off. Syd got better not too long after but just stopped making music because he didnt feel special as his sister said. In the end he lived somewhat of a peaceful normal life.
@@Godloveszaza he also ate a ton of LSD daily for some long stretches of time.
Syd was not a recluse , liked a pint, game of darts , ride his bike around cambridge ... just got on with a low key life ...... NICE bloke
Bloke?
@@kristindegnan3384 hi kristin 🤣🤣🤣😂😂 a bloke ....... in an english word that means .....MAN🤣🤣🤣🤣I,M GUESSING your not english , ?
@@anniechrisbendy6000
Does a bloke rank above a chap?
😀😃😄😁😆
@@TheBatugan77 🤣😂hi batugen77 ...... a chap is higher than a bloke by a long way😎👍
A pint of LSD! and feed the Eskimo girl friend bread and water in the closet.
"Won't you miss me? Wouldn't you miss me at all?" - Yes Syd, we miss you!
I wonder if he knew when he was alive how legendary he became? Sigh.
@@50toinfinityatleast let s say (oh Yes! Of course..!
but on the other hand.... So What?).. I mean that you already know what I mean.. mate..
@@O_Menelaos666 indeed i do
20th ceturys Van Gogh
@@50toinfinityatleast no he didn't thats why he stopped making music. His sister said he didnt feel special.
I like this elder guy and his endless story about the salvation army band
Yes, it was a big one
Norman Smith, had a couple of hits in the 70's himself.
😊Hurricane Smith, an artist in his own right and producer. Also worked with the Beatles at Abbey Road.
@@elliottg.1954 If I'd no other reference points and someone said that's a picture of Mr. Nick Mason in the present day, then I could be fooled... except that I've seen the DVD of 'Nick Mason's Saucerful Of Secrets', and I know that he no longer has a moustache.
@@mnbv990 as Hurricane Smith.
The brass bit on Jugband Blues is nothing to be embarrassed about! Everything about that recording is perfect.
I always thought the brass section was bad & out of tune on purpose for some artistic reason lol
Best track on that album is Let there be more light. Awesome track
I'll say what's wrong with it... it's the sound of Mr. Barrett being ejected from Pink Floyd.
It’s out of tune?
It's a distorted sort of ending chant to me. Like the rolling credits sort of thing. The on you go now but it sounds like an unhappy journey is to be onset. Eerie
Syd got that impromptu psychedelic jam going for Floyd and set their sails .
oh yea he was clearly the catalyst for pink floyd, he just went a little too far and became lost his way back.. too bad too cuz can you imagine what a pink floyd would have been if he had made it back and kept with the band? slightly high but totally functional? pretty sure there wouldn't have been the tussles as they would have worked it all out... OK, all 3 of us write and collaborate just like the beatles so forth.. instead of having the eagles, CCR, pink floyd type power struggles and break ups
@@deandee8082 PF ultimately benefitted from the departure of Barett
@@reefpondman5632 It took them a few years though. Floyd didn't really start hitting their grove until Meddle.
Well said!!
@@deandee8082 Yup -
Likewise, it’s pretty hard to fault Peter Green for chucking it all when you look at the train wreck that FM became in terms of personal dynamics brought on by mega stardom 5 or 6 years later.
I’m always torn between the impulse to sing my praises of his genius to the oblivious latter day fans, and the understanding that his fragile soul was probably spared a more terrible fate the day he walked away.
RIP Greeny and Syd.
Amazing Pink Floyd, so very influential on everyone's outcome in life - one way or another.
'I've got pork chops in my fridge' - SB.
Those memorable early sounds of Floyd were definitely attributable to the unique influence of Syd .Whereas there has for some time been a mystique ( together with many stories ) surrounding him , this remains his true and cherished legacy .R.I.P.
There were several musicians in the 1960’s who dropped out of the scene rather than trying to make it big. They preferred artistry over stardom. Peter Green and Jeremy Spencer of Fleetwood Mac and Stu Sutcliffe of the Beatles also come to mind.
Truth be told Stu died before Beatles reached fame. Your point remains, the scene itself was such that more sensitive, introspective and less "go-getter" attitude people actually reached wider audiences. Really a crazy time now that you think about it, especially comparing it to what's happenning today
The caliber of fine producers are judged by the lamps he keeps upon his credenza! I love lamp.
That guy Pete gives one of the best descriptions of 'the other 3 guys' of Pink Floyd ever. Aristocratic, unfriendly 'posh' students.
1 off the band went to uni .... others rather average working class families ( smart lads ) , at that time money was in very short supply in uk..... england took 20+years to emerge from WW2..... 100% NOT POSH STUDENTS 🇬🇧
That guy Pete is PETER BANKS of YES...
RIP Syd... And Norman (Hurricane) Smith
Norman Smith (famous as a producer) is also known as a one-hit-wonder -- had a good novelty hit record (#1 in USA - Cashbox) in the '60s "Oh Babe, What Would You Say?"
He also produced the band Barclay James Harvest -- who still record & perform today but mostly in Europe. First real rock opera -- S.F. Sorrow by The Pretty Things (this was before The Who's "Tommy"). Smith also was the engineer on many early Beatles songs until 1965.
When you burn the candle at both ends, it lasts half as long.
and you have burned so very, very brightly, Syd. Look at you: you're the Prodigal Son
To be in awe at 1st grade math. Those were the days hunh..
Shut the fuck up....
Oh Wise Sage Please Tell Us More ...
Only if you burn each end at the same time everytime.
The band has endured so many tragedies despite of the beautiful music it composed, Syd's damage, Roger and Gilmour fighting, Syd Richard's death
Do you mean Keef Barrett? lol
Richard Wright
They need to do a Motion Picture about him. Think about it almost all of the big time Rock N Roll Movie Biopics end in the same way. This story is unique in all sorts of ways. Very few bands have made it thru 2 lead singers and be different in popularity. Pink Floyd had 3 Phases of popularity with different styles. Roger Waters and David Gilmore may seem the same until you take Rogers political and ideology out of the songs and you have none of that in Gilmore's just like Syd Barrels pop music was not Waters and Gilmours. You can have 3 different major actors to play these roles with all 3 interchanging and connecting one with the other.
If they did I'd like to see some serious research into those now silent pals who were tripping with him.
They wouldn’t do that -drugs ?
Thoughtful point
You'd need a whole trilogy of films to get the whole Pink Floyd story. One movie wouldn't do justice.
Man, you got this one absolutely right. On the money. Richard gere with ugly make up would be perfect for Waters.
Syd is a great visual artist too.
He was an extremely talented being.
He was knocking some great tunes in 1970. Effervescent Elephant.. what a song
Ah yes I love that one. The way the lyrics blend in with the music have always reminded me of Bike. Each of them perfectly encapsulates that unique and somewhat off-beat British psychedelic romanticism.
I think that Sys Barrett was a seed that, although it fell on the ground, GAVE US MANY FRUITS THAT WE ENJOY TODAY, apart from ANY JUDGMENT OR SPECULATION. !
This dude was ahead of his time and looks so damn cool.
It's been ten years, it's time to fix that typographical error in the title.
The style of the band at this point was heavily indebted to the first Pink Floyd album, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, but filtered through their own color spectrum. The Pink Floyd connection went beyond mere sonic hat tipping, since Alice Cooper played host to Pink Floyd on the British band's first U.S. tour.
“We were the house band at the Cheetah for a period of time in ’67,” Smith recalls. “One of the perks was we could go see any of the bands playing there. Pink Floyd were there one week. I remember the first or second song they played, Syd went up to sing and boom! A spark came from the microphone and hit his lip. He just put his arms down to his sides, backed about a foot away from the stand and just stood there like a statue for the rest of the night. After the show, they came back to our house and partied with us all night long. Syd walked in like a zombie. He didn’t talk to anybody, he just stood there. He seemed a bit psychotic, and the mass quantities of LSD certainly didn’t help.”
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Those bastards didn't even take him to the hospital even after he was electrocuted on stage.
I heard that was an early incarnation of their groundbreaking psychedelic light shows, and spellbinding stage presence.
"Those bastards" is a bit unfair I think. Syd went down in a hole and band was worried but didn't realise how far it would lead. I don't think you go to hospital if you don't get physically hurt by electricity.
He made a couple million in his life, retired and lived comfortably in his hometown out of the public eye. That is a dream for me. 💎
you think he made that much? Money was still pretty tight back in the 60s and record contracts historically were major screw jobs.
Syd Barrett left Pink Floyd but Syd Barrett was still there in their future music
i love the fly on the window. syd is there.
Ealy days.
mellotron to be fair thats how some Brits would say it
Yes . . . Somewhere near Cambridge I think ?
i actually did not notice that till now
I was thinking the same
His songs are quite different than the famous later songs . But the band became about interpreting his inner experience - which was a huge guess , because that boy was GONE . " You missed the starting gun . " " Threatened by shadows . " " Hey you . " Letters to the missing Syd .
Great doc....it was also great seeing Norman 'Hurricane' Smith as well speaking..RIP Hurricane...sadly missed as well.
Syd's role in the founding the group can't be minimized. That being said, most bands that have made it to success and notoriety experienced line up changes and shake ups in the early stages of their development. Barret made one and part of another of Pink Floyd albums. In most cases these changes are rarely more than foot notes in the bands history. His renown comes on two things, one was how important he was as a friend to Waters, and Wright and Mason and how his mental breakdown effected them (and Gilmour too) which continued to influence many of the themes that they explored in their music, and the fact that it was so explored. It is impossible to really surmise what level of ingenious or lack there off that may or may not have developed in him as musician through time. His story is tragic and profound. Pink Floyd would not have developed to be what they became without him in the beginning, or with him in as time evolved. That is the paradox behind the whole Pink Floyd Dynamic. As Mason stated, there would never have been a Dark Side of the moon had it not been for Syd. But if they had not of gone on with out him, as difficult as it was to come to terms with for them, there would not have been a Dark side of the moon.
and then they copied it over and over again and became a parody of themselves.
Pink floyd for sure wouldve been shockingly big with syd. Syd was coming up with ideas and they called him crazy or laughed at him yet later on roger would steal those same ideas and get called a genius for it yet the songs would get big. Not to mention syd even created punk rock (vegetable man) yet they didnt release it because he was deemed as crazy and thats why so many 80 punks were so hooked on syd and even wanted him to produce music for them. Maybe pink floyd wouldnt have been as big if he stayed but I doubt it because look at all the legendary things syd accomplished just off that 1 album. Jimmy page compared syd to jimi hendrix, hendrix was a fan of syds and even performed with him, David bowie was heavily influenced by syd, the beatles the whos and even more great groups loved pink floyd when syd was around. Yall can keep coming up with this narrative for as long as you please but truth be told syd was the soul of that group before and after. Roger was an amazing writer yes but none of them come close to syds small catalog of lyricism.
I swear to you, truly love the marching band Salvation Army circus in the song, maybe I’ll never be a fancy smug English producer but I think it works for the song very much
smug English producer, where’s that coming from?
oh my god...this jugband blues interview is frickin endless
Christ... Enjoy the fact the man that was in the studio with them at the time shared the story.
@@hippydippy Norman 'Hurricane' Smith was the engineer on all of the EMI studio recordings by the Beatles until the autumn of 1965 when EMI promoted him from engineer to producer. The last Beatles album he recorded was Rubber Soul and Smith engineered the sound for almost 100 Beatles songs in total. Had a hit himself
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10:46 is “endless”? Really?
Syd Barret was a true artist........
Piss Artist. :-)
Pink Floyd (after and with Syd) weren't?
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Nelson Robert Willis madness lol, he didn’t like the direction the band was going and lost interest
@@fungus2116 It's pretty well documented that Sid overdid it with acid one fatal weekend (either voluntarily or otherwise) and never got his marbles back.
Love Syd.
Sorely missed.
Try not to compare him to the latter pink floyd. You have to investigate the time that he was making music in, and in the time it was credible. Incredible critically.
if every one leaves a comment that states click thumbs up to reinstate the lost gems of syd barrett a true originator,we could get the ball rolling here.
We like, some even love (the thought of) Syd/Roger, because losing one's sanity and therefore whole life is deeply tragic and especially when the individual showed so much potential and was warm, kind-hearted, charismatic, and attractive to both Women and "some'' Men.. lf the God's - the forces outside of our perception that 'move' life as a whole - had been kinder to him he may have been another David Bowie..
@ThePostmarxist I agree. Can someone loop it so it goes on for like 90 minutes or so. "Elder in a sweater, who may or may not have just stuck an appendage in a light socket, talks about tracking down the Salvation Army Band."
Woah! That's Hurricane Smith. I never knew the connection until tonight. Nice one
In his day he was charismatic he was the guy you wanted to hang around with. his vision with music was years ahead of most musician's. sadly his addiction took him to a place where it was a point of no return
Barrett was dismissed by the band, due to complications from his drug use, inspiring one of the worlds greatest hit 'Shine On'
In all the videos I’ve seen with Syd. He has a strange look in his eye. Like the 1000 yard stare combat vets get.
I much prefer Pink Floyd with Syd.
RIP legend.
Norm and Syd are gone damn I hope they are doing good where ever they are
I heard Syd wanted the bell ringer from the Salvation Army collection pots only, not the whole band, so he left in a huff. A young Mike Oldfield knew the story, and built his epic 'Tubular Bells' cycle around this theme.
That actually makes morse sense and having a bell ringer sounds like a much better idea for that song. cant find mention of it anywhere online though
Fascinating and really loved hearing from guitarist from Syn and the producer Norman "Hurricane" Smith.
"His relatively small musical legacy" I disagree. Yes, Syd was musically active for just a few short years but his impact on music should never be overlooked or underestimated. He lay the foundations for what Pink Floyd would become. Plus the fact that David Bowie, Marc Bolan, Paul Weller and Damon Albarn have all cited Syd as one of their main influences speaks volumes.
Small/short in time duration, huge in legacy. Perhaps that's all he was meant to do, but it was certainly enough. Media likes to focus on what didn't happen as those it is a tragedy instead of what did happen as a celebration.
Как жаль Сида Барретта. Такой талант.
What a gift to our world, Syd Barrett.
Roger is the only one who has kept the faith with the 60s head and freak revolutionary vibe. Syd wasn’t the commercial end of Floyd. His songs reflect Cambridge folk tradition after all Cambridge Folk festival is still a leader.
I think, according to many interviews around Syd Barrett, David gilmour took his place on the band, but on the other hand, saved the band carrer. His a great guitar player and the band needed him at that time. I think so, but right me if I'm wrong.
Matheus went on to be one of the biggest bands ever and dark side of the moon possibly the greatest album ever .
Matheus Zugaib from what I have read and heard I don't think that was the initial purpose of Gilmour joining the band, but Syd deteriorated so quickly that it appeared that way. I am sure they would have continued as a 5 piece but it just couldn't be done. i cannot even Imagine what might have happened had Gilmour not joined the band. I cannot imagine a world without Pink Floyd; they arguably did more to shape rock an roll than anyone except for maybe Elvis Presley. Dark Side of the Moon = greatest album of all time.
Mr. Gilmour helped the band to become so much more professional. Watch a 1967 vs. a 1969 performance, it is a revelation. Mr. Gilmour also brought the musical feel to the band which they really needed. He did not write as many songs as Mr. Waters did but overall the stamp he put onto Pink Floyd is so much bigger than the plain number of songs he wrote. Their best moments where not when Syd Barrett was there but when Mr. Waters lyrics and edgy ideas combined with Mr. Gilmour's melodic feel.
Pink Floyd would not have survived the next 3 years with Mr. Barrett. Not only because of his "sickness", but also because artistically he never developed further from the things he wrote '65 - '66. Overrated.
Syd correlated the band, and they put out some really weird stuff, but I found it interesting, David Gilmore, took the weirdness, and made it work, both brilliant artists.
I think Gilmour was a great replacement for Barrett, I think he fit perfect and Syd Barrett was steadily going down deeper into depression and mental illness, it would have ruined tne band. Having Gilmour step in afforded Pink Floyd the opportunity to continue on and become one of the best, if not the best ( best in my opinion ) psychedelic bands of all time. Gilmour is a legend !!
Floyd and Deep Purple were my all time favourite Rock bands. Being following them for over 50 years.
Keep the music flowing.... 🎼🎶🎸
How are they supposed to “keep the music flowing”? Those bands haven’t existed for years.
Awesome videos in Ur channel. Miss new ones
That salvation band sounded perfect on Jugband Blues..
I just saw Nick Mason doing Pink Floyd material
I’m watching this while having the Ealy Bird Special and reading the Daly News
Good on syd for getting away from the parasites and shit, vultures and acidic nightmare
Norman Smith and Syd Barrett came from very different worlds. Syd was by and large a free spirit, wildly embraced the free-form and he wrote accordingly. Norman was from an earlier era, where everything was adhered to in a professional manner. Quite simply, Norman could never understand where Syd was coming from, and Syd couldn't understand where Norman was coming from. Two totally different work ethics. Syd heard the end of "Jugband Blue" and pictured a Salvation Army band just haphazardly playing their instruments with no degree of order, total chaos. Norman could not conceive that idea no matter how hard he tried to, because it was alien for him to do. Given their total inability to work together in a coherent fashion, they still crafted a beautiful and haunting piece for the track... I can't picture it being any better than what came out, if it were more structured it would have changed the flow completely.
It came out as good as you say it did because Mr.Smith put the work in..Syd fucked off..remember?,,You wrote more than 7 lines when you could have written only 1..
glass house No, it came out the way it did because Norman gave in and let Syd have his way. And who cares how many lines I write? If you don't like what I have to say, then don't read it.
If the story is as Smith said it was..Barrett was indifferent to the production..He (smith) could write the brass score for the song..Syd couldn't,or didn't wish to at that time..I'm not trying to dis-credit the unmistakable talent of Syd;but non-professionalism doesn't get the job done....Yes,I agree they were of different eras' and ages etc..but that's how work get 'produced'..by the go steady Gregs..Not the flighty artist;as left to them,not much would be discovered,recorded and layed down/taped,even within themselves..
..I didn't 'dislike' how many lines you wrote..I just said it was unnecessary and too long winded..And as far as is who knows best is concerned,that;d be the record producer..Not the 'artist'..Excepting rare occasions...Not a matter of 'giving in'..like it's some sort of ego battle..
❤ you forever Roger!!
❤️❤️❤️ quiet while he makes like a cat. I love him
According to Alan Parsons, David Gilmore did the entire Dark Side of the Moon completely stoned ... watch the Live at Pompeii. You have your answer! Just LOOK a Davids eyes when he say's "...We're not a drug band..."
Even Roger was on hash around then. No wonder they made this:
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Bombed out 🥬
@@thebrazilianatlantis165 lol I'd been looking for that, thank you 👍
Lmao only Syd would say "how about a salvation army band."
Exactly....... and his last words on a Pink Floyd record ?......."And what exactly is a dream, and what exactly is a joke?"
If you're an airline pilot, I'm Syd resurrected. Shine on.
I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan, but not a Syd fan. IMO, with Syd the band was a trip, without him, it became a journey.
Pink Floyd 1970-1980
They were known first as The Tee Set then Sigma 6 before settling of The Pink Floyd Sound named after two Bluesmen Syd liked Pink Anderson and Floyd Council. Eventually they dropped The and Sound from their moniker.
short doco on a short career . ( syds songs will live on) a pioneer a true madcap genius .
I remember in my Ealy days.....
Ike's dog at Cambridge was Seamus
a Beatles fan by far....So as sorry as I am to hear of his death..I know his was outstanding...and will in my heart be great...but...he did use a lot of LSD..and that from what i hear cased him to separate from the world and pass away..RIP SYD..
i guess some would not see the gentleman humor here. i am glad i can
"I'm being filmed for interview filming today. I shall choose my ugliest sweater."
Nobody cares what you wear
Surely, you jest, sir! That sweater rocks mightily. Mind you, it doubt it would work without the scarf, and I wouldn't be seen dead in it.
Two-Dog James scarfy scarf
they don't think like that , he knew it was him no matter the clothes horse. They go beyond such fickle
stuttering stammering babbling English accents. this documentary sucked. they could at least let us know who the interviews are...????
That fly on the window at 7.33 its annoying me
Time for a little Umma Gumma, then? Roll up your newspaper.
My man Syd
You are a genius.
The ‘Ealy’ days?
Yeah, those days were full of eals.
What became of Syd Barrett from the 1970's to 2006? I know he lived with his mother, so I guess he didn't need to be in a hospital? Did he know about "Dark Side of the Moon" or "The Wall"? Did he continue to paint or was he still able to express his artistic nature in other ways after his breakdown?
David Dennis he did. He showed up in the studio when they were recording Dark Side of The Moon. I realized it was during The Wall Album that was when Syd had shown up. That was after I posted my reply above. I remember Richard saying that David cried.
@Jan Hoyle Actually, that famous unexpected studio walk-in by Syd was during the recording of "Wish You Were Here", particularly when they were doing the final recording of "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", which was rather ominous and apparently made both Roger and David weep, because what they used to know as Syd Barrett, as David described him, "a slender, elegant, figure" now stood before him as a bloated, eyebrow-less, hair-less man. That sight of him after all those years, was what made David realize, according to him, that Syd was never going to have that return that David especially had hoped he would have.
Richard is talked about/rumored to've said that Syd asked to be shown where he needed to plug in his guitar to do his part, to which he had to be sadly told, "sorry Syd, all the guitar parts are done." And if this part of it really happened, that's pretty sad. It's as if Syd thought he was still a member of the band after being gone from the group (with no one knowing anything of him) for 4-5 years.
Shut the fuck up asking questions. Jesus.
StarryStarryNocturne that always gets me. That was not a coincidence... and it’s heart wrenching
@@battlejac_74kok51 You are one angry and horrible little man
Syd has gone down as an icon of that era, and seemed a nice guy from what people say.
Remarkable. Thank you.
As to capturing the English sensibility, I thought some Kinks songs did that too.
I thought George Harrison's Taxman gave us a slice.
The only reason they made the wall was to separate them from the audience. seems they all where a bit crazy. I personally think syds music was hard for me to enjoy all though I love Pink Floyd .
+Conlaoch Cattan It was Waters who wanted to be isolated from the audience. His inability to deal with them
led to almost pathological hatred (he once spat at them apparently) The only way he would tour the album was
if he could find a way not to be near or isolated from the audience. Hence the building of an actual wall instead
of say just playing the music as per normal.
+g2macs cant stand roger waters urgggg
I used to play in a band called SiNN local to eastern Virginia.
the pint to his left, made me get one myself.....
His artwork is fascinating, particularly the stuff he did after Pink Floyd.
I have that same statue that's in the background when the old guy is talking . Which is the man hanging on the lamp post that looks like a nightshade on it .Mine is a bottle for Alcohol that has a music box on the bottom .The tune is ," how dry I am ".Wonder if mine was modified of that one .
Which is at 2:30
I remember talking 30 years ago about how Syd was living in mom's basement. Kind of a rough story.
His sister looked after him and his royalties from the hits he made paid their bills.
Sid's mom didn't have a basement.
The house at 183 Hill Road did have a basement. That's the house his mother had and where he lived in the early 1970s before the Hilton in London then the Chelsea Cloisters apartment. When he left London and came back to Cambridge at the end of the 1970s, his mother had sold that house and moved to 6 St Margarets Square. it was that latter house where Syd/Roger lived until his death in 2006. it didn't have a basement.
How do I know this? I wondered about the basement issue as well, and found that the 183 Hill Road house was later sold in the 1990s and had a diagram of all the rooms including the basement.
An artist that dabbled
i think the irish guy was also in a Kraftwerk doc. i saw.i need to get out more
Best thing and the most genius move Syd Barrett ever made was leaving Pink Floyd, it’s like he knew.
Nice little show.
RIP SYD LUV YA MUSIC!
thank you
David Gilmour or pink floyd will always be number 1 i have the highest respect for them.....
a most misunderstood man
The ealy days were ealy my favourite days
Ealy. You'd think the morons would correct this by now. Smh.
The Ely days? When they were still in Cambridgeshire?
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Well, thanks for complimenting Motown, which is near where I live, and I like Motown music. I don't see, of course, the influence of Motown in your own original art rock/progressive/classical/psychedelic music. But thanks for mentioning the Motor City anyway. And I do like Pink Floyd, and you are a great band. You are still very interesting from the Syd Barrett era. I'm surprised after all these years, that when I get around to listening to it, that the early era of Pink Floyd is so interesting. It was sad to see the history of Syd's mental health issues.