How The Last of Us Changed The Industry | 10 Years Later Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- The Last of Us, one of gaming's most recognizable franchises, is now ten years old. It's difficult to imagine a world where it didn't exist, given how much of an impact it has had on the industry, but that's the purpose of the video: looking back at The Last of Us and seeing what made it so special and why it's had the impact it has had that allowed it to become one of the top Playstation franchises in just short amount of time. The video is going to go over everything from the game's history, to it's mechanics, it's story and characters, it's ports and re-releases and the endless moral discussions that have taken place surrounding it's finale!
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Chapters:
00:00 The Last of Us Is Ten Years Old
09:34 Getting Started
16:38 Combat, Stealth and Enemies
22:16 Caring About The Characters
30:42 Understanding The Characters
36:20 All The Versions
45:53 Left Behind
54:45 Winter and Spring
1:02:13 The Ending
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#thelastofus #thelastofuspart1 - Ігри
I watched a playthrough of the game when it came out, i watched the HBO show, then i finally played the game.
All 3 times put me in an emotional wreck when the story finished. I really loved it
I'm late on this reply but I went through the same. I did the opposite of how you're supposed to experience it and yet it might be the most impactful piece of media I've ever consumed outisde of music.
I don't think anything except for this game has the power to send goosebumps all over my body just from thinking about it.
I went through the same aswell, growing up i had xbox, nintendo, and the ps2 at my grandmas house, i never had a ps3 or ps4, but my favorite games to watch and story wise were always uncharted and the last of us. ive watched through jacksepticeyes playthrough of all of the games many many many many times, played tid bits of the games at friends houses. But never owned them.
Then they brought the game to pc last year, i became a pc gamer and was playing games compettively and hadnt played a story game in a while, i bought it day one and played through it in one sitting, i loved every second and instantly went back and played new game+. In 2 days im buying a playstation and the last of us 2 with my first ever paycheck, time flies man @@the_bottomfragger
The Last of Us literally altered my life trajectory. After I played it I decided I wanted to make games as a career. Turns out coding was not my forte and I didnt like the school I chose so I transferred colleges and went into mechanical engineering. Even though I didnt end up where I thought I would, I know my life would be completely different had I never played this game. I wouldve gone to some other school, never transferred, and never met the people I had
That's great to hear man.
Have you ever played Tell Tales The Walking Dead? It stars Lee & Clementine. It came out just one year before The Last of Us and it had a very similar found family story of surrogate father and daughter in a post apocalypse. It won Game of the Year in 2012.
@@endershepard7117 TT TWD is so underrated. Fantastic game series.
Watching this review got me emotional all over again for this game. I'm so glad I tried this game out, because it was unforgettable experience. I already appreciated your original review, but here you just described every story beat to absolute perfection. Since you often change titles on your videos and things like that, as you alluded to earlier in the video, I just want to personally assure you that I think this is one of the videos on your channel that will age very well for years to come and is the definitive review of The Last of Us.
I first heard about this game in 2012 in the game informer magazine. At the time, I never thought I would love it as much as I do almost eleven years later. It's been my favorite game for the last ten years and nothing has topped it since.
Loss was first published in 2008.
The Last of Us outbreak began in 2013.
Ergo,
There is a chance, however slim, that Joel *does* know what Loss is, and spoke with especial conviction, in that scene...
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@@robogreek3157 Comic book
A really well-done video. Even though I remembered the story I really like your analysis of the motivation and arc of each character. Thanks for the upload.
I’d never played The last of Us, never was interested until last year. After I got a PS5 my best friend at that time who was so incredibly close to me asked if I wanted to watch her share play Part II. It was an incredibly stressful time in my life, and I had no idea what I was getting into but I said yes. Halfway through I stared playing the remastered version and got super into that as well, and then I ended up in a situation that was incredibly stressful and couldn’t be online for a couple weeks. She was by my side during it and I eventually was able to finish the play through of Part II with her.We went through that game together and we were both super emotional with each other at the end. Both games are super special to me for that reason and I’m eager to see your opinion on Part II. Part II was my introduction to the series and I was oblivious to the controversies of it, so I’m naturally more partial to it compared to other fans.
Part 2 is shit
I remember buying this game on launch after my last day of freshman year. I knew absolutely nothing about it, 3 days later it was one of the best story experiences I’ve ever played. I still do think it holds up very well and I’m trying to give part 2 a chance…
I adore the first game but haven't tried the second one yet either. I have to give it a shot sometime.
I tried so hard to be in biased about the second game but it's truly a shit hole, not even the gameplay was safe from the disaster, the gunplay itself was amazing but there's so much tedious shit both in story and in the levels
I had never played it on PS3 even though I bought a used copy around 2011 or 2012. The game sat in my drawer unplayed for years. Then during the pandemic it became one of the PS+ games of the month and I decided to give it a try. It very quickly became my all time favorite video game. In the 3 plus years since then I've played it at least 10 times beginning to end
@@theshadowthie1 idiotic clown
@theshadowthie1 a shit hole? Damn that's really rough lol. I believe it's up there with Red Dead 2 as one of the best games of the generation, perhaps of all time.
I remember getting my PS3 in 2013 for Sly 4, and not much else. For some reason, this local portuguese UA-camr decided to make a playthrough of TLOU, who's first EP I watched religiously to my last tear shed.
The day after, I went to a Game (old times' CEX) and bought the game for half it's price, right after it's release. I had to BEG my parents for it, since I was only 11. That summer, I played the game at least 10 times. It was an absolute favourite, dethroning Metal Gear Solid 2 with ease.
Maybe I was going through a rough patch, and just resonated with the characters more than I care to admit. I grew up seeing Joel and Ellie going from generation to generation, waiting for Part 2 like I've never waited for any other game. I think this love for The Last of Us is something really personal and dear to me. These two characters have scarred me so deep into my heart, that they'll always be in my thoughts. It wasn't just a game, it was an escape from reality, into another reality.
It might not be the greatest game of all time. It's flawed, like every other game is but, to me, it'll always be my one and only. My heart will always skip a bit with that final "Okay".
The Last of Us changed my life forever. It was the first game I played where I cared so much about the characters. The gameplay was fun but I always came back to see what happens in Joel and Ellie’s story. Joel is my favourite character ever. I empathise so much with him. He lost his daughter and felt guilty about it shutting the world of for twenty years but when he meets Ellie he begins to see her as his daughter and is able to heal from Sarah’s death. Ultimately Joel is willing to sacrifice a cure for the virus to save her because he wants her to live and be happy and he knows that he can’t have the death of another daughter on his conscience. Over the game Joel and Ellie are tested but they come out alive and Joel comes out with a newfound perspective and optimism. He no longer hides away grieving but instead moves on and tries to be happy for the time he has left. Ellie is a girl that lost her mother and her best friend. She found it hard to talk to people. Over time she became more angry at the world for taking the people she cared about away from her but when he realises she’s Infected she thinks that’s all she can do. Ellie doesn’t see herself as a person anymore just a way to cure the virus. Her journey is learning to accept herself and realise she’s not alone anymore she has a father figure that she never had before. In the winter chapter she was tested and almost broke but Joel was there for her ready to comfort and protect her. The giraffe scene is my favourite scene in gaming. It is a moment where Joel and Ellie can be happy unburdened by the world around them. The music perfectly summarises the emotion in the scene. They don’t know that Ellie would have to die for a cure. The giraffes symbolise hope for the future. Ellie knows a lot of people she cared for are dead. The journey to Salt Lake City was a perilous one filled with meeting people only for them to die. Tess Henry Sam. She doesn’t want those deaths to be for nothing. She wants to change the world not knowing that the world is to far gone and a cure wouldn’t change much however Joel knows that the cost is to great. Ellie deserves to live and he does everything in his power to protect her. This game means so much to me and my life would not be the same without it. I am so glad that I gave the game a chance because it has become my favourite game of all time and my favourite story of all time. This game reignited my passion for storytelling and with a newfound empathy and understanding I was able to become a better person.
This was my favorite game for the longest time (and I still love it). Tho after playing it several times over the last 10 years I realized more and more that I loved the story and the game itself is just okay.
This is it: The peak of J's Reviews path we worked towards since the Jak games.
Your work output blows me away man.
Insightful video man!I remember when the game was first revealed at the Spike awards in 2011 and being interested in it even though by that point I had never played the Uncharted games or even had a PS3. Eventually though I was bought one by my mom and played the game when it first came out in June 2013. It was such a great time and I'm happy I got a chance to play it!
I was 19 years when The Last Of Us came out in 2013 One of the best story telling in all of Video Game History!!!🇯🇵
Awesome video! Well put together!
I also remember spoiling myself with playthroughs on UA-cam, but I don't regret it, that time is very nostalgic for me and it led me to play this incredible game. This was also a big deal for me back then because I was scared of horror games and it made get out of my gaming comfort zone
Another great video, and would definitely love to see you play and review Telltales TWD keep up the good work J!
I never expected to hear Investigation- Middlegame 2011 in a video essay, absolutely perfect taste here
hey J i think your reviews are really consistent and dope af we should jam on some games sometime!
Another great video as always
Part 1 and Part 2 are both absolute masterpieces
This video was UNBELIEVABLE and offered insights I hadn't really thought of regarding the morality and Ellie's trauma which led to her feeling like she HAD to be the cure. I didnt expect to watch the whole video but I couldnt stop watching it. Amazing, thank you.
First time I played this game was with a busted controller, I remember getting absolutely frustrated on parts of the game because of it however back then I was un unemployed 16 year old so I couldn’t just get a new one. However the story of this game kept me hooked all through out. And that final scene at the end where Joel just lies to Ellie left me with my jaw open but I just felt a sigh of relief knowing I don’t have to play with that crapy controller.
Did part 2 confirm the Doctor could do the cure? Frankly I always felt it was him thinking he could, but that’s no guarantee.
@J's Review how plausible is it you could do a retrospective on the Spyro series?
7:50 same there’s so many games I wish I had experienced for myself rather than getting spoiled
I somehow didnt know this game existed until part 2 came out😂 and didnt play them until september 2022 when i got a ps4
This isn't one of my favorite games just because of the story, but the gameplay as well. It just bothers me when people say that their favorite game is Last of Us or MGS for example, and then they only talk about the story. So is it their favorite game, or just favorite story? I like both because of their gameplay AND story.
I feel the same way. Gameplay is really good and deserves a shout out too.
Definitely one of the best games of all time. It uses the medium of video games to tell a compelling story and immerse the player into a world that is fun and rewarding to explore.
The first survival horror game I ever beat was re4, but the first one i played was the last of us. I should go back and actually beat the game, the story is so compelling to me even after watching so many analyses of it. Great video
I've argued against the fireflies not giving Ellie the chance to give consent often. All that said, as a father, I know I would never allow anyone to hurt my child for the supposed greater good so I understand Joel here
Agreed, I totally get both sides. But honestly the fireflies feel like a mess, I don’t think they could even make a cure let alone distribute it. I know they should try, and I don’t know if this ethical dilemma would be nearly as complicated if say Joel was immune. He’s an adult, all the stuff he’s done, maybe this is his way to atone. Ellie is a trauma victim with survivors guilt and a child, that really muddies the water. Joel is being selfish, but as you say as a Dad I wouldn’t stand by for this either.
Yooooo idk if you ever played it but you should do a video on psychonauts that game is great.
another thing i like to think about is if joel didnt do what he did by saving ellie, wouldnt he basically be failing his “daughter” again? since he is clearly guilty about not saving sarah, how could he live on his life without saving ellie? in joels shoes, id feel like id owe it to myself to save her this time, regardless of a vaccine or anything else
5:32 I'm still in the same camp you were regarding thinking Naughty Dog should go back to making Jak. I do love violent shooters and games with adult themes, but Uncharted and The Last of Us just never clicked with me. I played the opening of Uncharted 2, played through the PS3 version of the Last of Us and quit halfway through out of boredom, later tried the PS4 version and found it underwhelming.
This game came out around the same time I graduated from high school. And one hell of a late graduation gift it was
This game is up there with Xenoblade Chronicles as one of my favorite games and stories of all time. Two very different games, but both with extremely compelling stories
Would love to see a ranking for your favorite games oat
Best game of all time? Never was. One of the best stories? Definitely. Even in retrospect, the story still holds up well and the growing bond between Joel and Ellie over the course of the game is its biggest strength.
yes it was . best games of all time along with part 2
Not even among the best story's. It's wholely unoriginal. It's only strength is the relationship between the two characters.
Ofcourse it never was. Its a clickbait title.
I also like the second game as well but my mom saw me killing the bad guys and she said I don’t like it and I said it part of the game
@@rightinthedome9973 That’s the whole point. Neil said it himself “simple story, complex characters” not every story needs to be ground breaking for it to be considered one of the best. In my opinion the most important part of any story is the character development, if the protagonist goes through a long journey and comes out the other side exactly the same was the journey even worth it?
Are you gonna make a video on your thoughts about the upcoming sonic superstars?
I only have a gtx 970 and the game ran pretty good on medium settings (I played it a week or 2 after release). not sure why so many people were having issues with it
I need to play this at some point
Just played it first time 3 weeks ago after GOW 2018. Played remastered on PS5 but i previously watched the Rad Brads Walkthrough as a kid
I bet I already know what he will think of part 2. Also hi hello. Great channel
Glad im not the only one who was getting a ps4 just to play Arkham Knight, I was gonna try and get the limited edition Arkham Knight PS4 but they didn't have any available, but what they did have was the Last of Us remastered bundled with a new ps4 which would be my introduction to the series, and boy was I hooked from the start
I was incredibly lucky to have played this game blind in 2013. Being a huge Uncharted fan, I somehow missed any announcement/trailer or anything to do with TLOU. I had heard about it a few days before release from a friend, and all I knew going in was that it was a new Naughty Dog IP. My first ever play through was on the release day in 2013, knowing absolutely nothing about its premise. Probably the best gaming experience I'd ever had.
Good video.
As someone who's not too big on the game as a whole, and while I understand where people are coming from with this, I firmly believe that the term "overrated" has become nothing more than a lazy buzzword to discredit people's enjoyment of something.
This enriched my day. Thanks.
I agree. The Last of Us isn't necessarily overrated, but seeing people dismiss the game and discredit others opinions by basically saying "overrated = bad" is quite annoying.
Same goes for underrated
@@Hilversumborn True, although that word has more than one meaning, at least.
Is it a compilation or new one?
1:09:28 that’s a good point you made, did Marlene even stop and thinking into having doubts on saving the world ?
1:09:45 that’s a very interesting question, besides there’s nothing left of humanity that’s worth saving. it’s just a bunch of survivors doing whatever it takes to survive day in and day out on a regular basis.
1:10:21 i couldn’t agree more with you, surviving is the only thing that matters to him and thoses 20 years did took a toll on him in a way he doesn’t see any hope into saving humanity because of everything he’s been through in a way thoses years changed him.
Into the cynical smuggler/hunter we meet after he lost Sarah during the night of outbreak.
1:11:56 Ellie represent the reason Joel’s alive just like how Sarah represents he’s alive.
Jesus, what are your PC specs? That was rough.
I was going to buy the remake on PC (skipped out on PS5 because it wasn't worth $70 to play on a system when I have the Remaster.) But after seeing the state it launched in, waiting for it to be fully fixed and for a sale.
You need to play Ico/Iko (English vs katakana I like referring to games by katakana). It is to video games what The Velvet Underground & Nico is to records
The one thing that bugs me about this while video is when you kept referring to the Cordyceps as a virus, when it's a fungal infection.
Great game!just got to play it for ps plus and it's easily a 8 or 9 for me.
It's odd, I don't really sing its praises or "miss" playing it but, I've returned to beat it 3 times very randomly.
I thought the Re 1 cover wasn't Chris in fact it was supposed to be the STARS member who got poisoned by the snake.
6:05 does Crash just refer to the PS1 trilogy or the series as a whole?
That's hilarious! My first PS4 was the Arkham Knight limited edition!
The thing to me about Part 1 vs the original/remaster is that it overhauled a lot of things - accessibility options, controls, haptics, gameplay modifiers, extras, concept art, aim assist adjustments, etc... and to my dismay, no arrow trajectory for the bow (because I suck at bows on console). Graphics were a nice update, but those other things add so much replayability.
You can actually change the bow trajectory to the original in the settings!
I've been using the internet since the late 90s and have never seen the "trolly problem" image...
I couldn't properly invest myself into the story because of the sheer amount of story beats that it takes from the film, 'Children of Men'. Its one thing to take inspiration from films and television shows when developing a video game but in TLOU 1 it's just on a level that it doesn't particularly feel like it has its own cohesive identity. There was also the fact that I didn't particularly care for the seasonal vignette-driven way that the game segments its story and I didn't particularly care for the side characters introduced in these segments either outside of the relationship between Henry and Sam. I think the game's stellar presentation, just shields the fact the story is just a father that lost a child accompanying a teenage McGuffin girl countrywide road trip through a cavalcade of zombie post apocalypse cliches. Joel and Ellie's relationship with each other is colorful to be sure it's just I didn't really find any of the events that supposedly shaped said relationship particularly compelling.
It is the epitome of videogame engineered for journalists and game critics.
I had no troubles with the pc version of the game and the graphics where insane but I do have a very powerful computer
I bought a ps4 last year only for the exclusives and honestly tlou 1 and 2 Spider-Man games and GOT are some of the best games I’ve every played I seriously missed out on the PS4’s life cycle
I know it doesn't matter at this point but I wish there never was a part 2. That was the perfect ending that would have kept us all thinking about it and debating forever. It never needed a sequel and I feel like the first game and especially the ending was hurt by having a sequel. But that's pretty normal for everything that people love. As much as it really should end, these companies just cannot help themselves but to make more money by capitalizing on the popularity of something. But if you just imagine a world were The Last of Us was just a single, stand alone game that ending would have went down in history as one of the great moral questions of fiction. How beautiful and bittersweet.
I think that sounds more like a you problem. The existence of a sequel doesn't in any way devalue the first game. Whether you like the sequel or not, it is still a seperate product
Yeah. It absolutely does depend on the point of view of the observer. I'm only expressing my personal view on the matter. That's the point in being able to comment. I can understand if you had the exact opposite opinion as me as well. In fact this series in particular has some good debate around it due to differing opinions. @@sweett3253
God damn, this man's work ethic. Edited a long ass vid and grade A script
The pc port actually works now after a few patches
The PC version looks like you were playing it on my PC.
On the plus side all us people wandering in to say "never was lol" are helping your metrics so, y'know, here ya go, one more for the pile :P
Was it the best in the first place?
This for me was one of those games I bought because everyone said it was the best game of the PS3, I got it on my PS4
And because it was so hyped ended hp disappointed and now have a negative opinion of it.
TLOU may not be my favorite game of all time but it's a damn good game. Everytime I finish playing it + DLC, I feel like I just want to restart the game all over again. It's that good!
Watched this while painting a warhammer unit. Made me want to replay part 1. Can’t wait to get home after work and start the journey all over. Thanks for reigniting my interest.
The Last of Us is one of my all time favorites. Personally, I don't think that the best game of all time is something that truly exists, although it is of course okay to have an all time favorite, which varies for just about everyone. The very fact alone that people are still able to find new ways to discuss Joel's choice at the end is really something to behold, and goes to show how Naughty Dog was able to bring every aspect of this game to life, ranging from the characters, environments, encounters, and set pieces.
It's been great to hear someone as insightful and observant as yourself give a full review of this game, and therefore I'm really looking forward to hear what you have to say about Part II, which I personally have a lot of mixed feelings about. Until then, please keep up the great work, and remember that you've done a great job in both this review and previous ones by providing a very impressive amount of insight in each one of them.
Game was amazing in my so humble opinion and taste. Think this franchise is my favorite game ever
I'm emotionally attached to this world of the last of us so attached that I re- bought the last of us 2 remastered for $10
I want to see your thoughts on the Last of Us 2 because I'm mixed on it and after playing I cannot not wrap my head on what my opinion should be.
It can be mixed then. I think the characters are super interesting, the story is bold and ambitious, and the gameplay is second to none. I also think the story may be a bit TOO ambitious and that leads to it being a little sloppy and very poorly paced. Now the pros outweigh the cons for me, so I still love it. But it's ok for that to not be the case for you. Despite what Reddit, UA-cam, or Twitter may tell you, it doesn't have to be the worst thing to ever happen to you or the greatest game ever. It can be that (you'd be dramatic but hey it could be). It can also be anywhere in between
i love it. doubling on what Matthew Malanga says, it doesn't have to be labelled. Every time i play part ii I'm immerse into this well crafted post apocalyptic world and goes on an adventure. The story is great to me and it reflect what's our reality too, in our day to day life we don't have control over every situation, we gotta roll with what's thrown at us and i think that the fact that we agree or disagree with certain aspect of the story makes it just more believable. i do prefer the game play of part ii and i love the environment. every time i finish any of these 2 game i'm saying out loud "what a great fucking game" when i became a fan of uncharted i never thought a franchise could dethrone it and naughty dog did it with TLOU
So you need someone to give an opinion on it so you can have one..?
J does not miss, does he?
At 101:45 I snuck by the bloaters
I really love the end of the game
This game is absolutely one of the greatest. Is it THE greatest? That’s subjective. But it’s definitely in my top 3 with shadow of the colossus, and ocarina of time.
I honestly believe that on the series of The Last of Us you bear a curse because every time I played them they never impressed me and I never found them memorable because of other games I had played before them.
I bought this game on day one after trying the demo that was along with God of War Ascension, but I only played it a few months later and I must say that the overall experience I enjoyed, but I didn’t find anything memorable because in those years I had played for the first time Silent Hill 2, Shadow of the Colossus, Bioshock, Bioshock Infinite, Oblivion, Dishonored, Metal Gear Solid 2, Metal Gear Solid 3 and other games I also replayed Ico, Devil May Cry and other games that had left me impressed and speechless, for this reason The Last of Us didn’t impress me at the time and I didn’t find it anything memorable.
In 2021 to be able to play TLOU Part 2 for the first time I played the Remastered version of TLOU and again I liked it, but again I did not find anything memorable because in those years I had played Yakuza Kiwami, Deadly Premonition, Before i Forget, The Vanishing of Ethan Carter, Last Day of June, What Remains of Edith Finch, Final Fantasy IX, Nier Automata and other games that (again) impressed me and left me speechless, which is why this time not just the first TLOU, but also the second did not impress me and I did not find them memorable.
I think if I get to play the first two TLOU again and a possible third TLOU for the TLOU series it will go badly again because in recent years I have played the other Yakuza + spin offs, Titanfall 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Spec Ops: The Line and others games, I have replayed Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 2 and others games and I have to play the Mass Effect series, Final Fantasy X and other games for the first time.
PS3/4: The color blocking for that game was a stand out for the tech.
PS5: Natural Lighting engine meets RTX
Damn I miss the PS3 era
These comment sections are gonna be real fucking shitty, especially when you do TLOU2. Wish you well.
Tbh, I'm honestly impressed that the last of us community, or technically the community that hates it for even existing, has somehow made a comment section that is more toxic than the comments under your Sonic videos.
Dumb fuck replied to me, can't see the comment on UA-cam for some reason, saying that TLOU fans are "mindless drones", completely ignoring how like half of the comments here are just people mindlessly stating that it was never was the best game. Haters of TLOU are genuine sheep
I only ever played this game for the first time in April, I played on easy and sucked ass btw, its a fun game. One of the few zombie games I've ever beat on my own. I played the remastered version, so im not sure how much was changed between the two. I appreciate videos like this becuade idk what makes me like certain games until someone else puts it into words.
5:10 I'd like to point out that they redid the cover art for the HBO show, and of course put Joel in front of Ellie. It's not so unthinkable these days either.
Yay my favorite video game franchise of all time
I love all the scenes
Your the goat reviewer
I still love Jak and Daxter and Uncharted more for its more light hearted and action-packed gameplay, but I can’t deny this game is wonderfully made and carefully thought out. Don’t get me wrong I still love this game and what it did for Naughty Dog, it’s just that I’m as crazy over it like a lot of people are and calling it the best game of all time, but if you think that, I wouldn’t blame you.
Not too invested in TLOU, but can't deny the amount of thought it needed and gave. The idea that Ellie struggles with survivor's guilt due to Riley, Tess and Sam didn't even occur to me until this video. Food for thought, man. Thank you.
All true. However all of those things could be true if this story was a film or a show, which it funnily enough is right now. There's not much in TLOU story that exclusively benefits from being a video game.
@@Egurius3except there is. Because WE are Joel which is why we constantly side with him even when he makes a shitty decision
@@hwanniggles187 except we arent allowed to chose the outcome so doesnt affect us at all
Look what you did the game preaches to you
Game didnt give me a choice
@@hwanniggles187 I watched the show with my dad, who hasn't played the games. He agreed with Joel's decision despite following his story through a non-interactive medium.
Meanwhile as just one exampe lof someone who played the game; British youtuber named Many A True Nerd while understanding Joel, disagreed with his decision by the end of Part 1, despite playing as him throughout the game.
Basically what I'm saying is: The Last of Us being a video game doesn't guarantee that you agree with Joel like you seemingly imply.
It might help somewhat to mold your opinion towards that of course. It's true that playing as a character gives you some kind of connection with them. How strong that connection is depends on the story being told and the player's personal perspective of course.
Of course I'm being somewhat of a Captain Obvious by saying all this, I realise that. The debate of him doing the right or wrong choice has existed since the game first launched in 2013. Joel's decision has divided people for ten years now despite many of those people playing as him.
I say many because obviously there are some who experience video game stories by let's plays and such.
@@hwanniggles187 Also I'm going to heavily disagree with the opinion that Joel made a shitty decision for many reasons.
1. He saved a person that is close to him and whom he loves. From certain perspective that just simply is the right thing to do and sould be considered the right moral choice, despite Joel being motivated by selfish reasons.
2. Vaccine would barely do anything in the world of The Last of Us, it's already fucked, but also possible to rebuild without it. I'll elaborate on both points.
2.1 Immunity doesn't save people from being killed by the infected when they tear your jaw off or bite off pieces of your neck. Ellie is a living proof of this. Hordes of infected would still be extremely dangerous to you.
2.2 The biggest threath to humans in the world of TLOU is other humans. I will argue that they kill each other more than the infected do. Just look at Part 2's story as one proof of this. In that game not a single main character dies from being infected, or by being killed by infected. All of them die from being killed by other humans.
2.3 The fact that places like Jackson Community, WLF and Seraphites exist and thrive proves that the world can be rebuilt without the vaccine. The only reason WLF and Seraphites get wiped out is because they can't stop fighting each other. The infected have very little to no effect in the downfall of their societies.
So why are all these factions and their people so determined to fight each other? Well this leads to my point number 3.
3. Vaccine doesn't bring food to a table, it doesn't build you a shelter, and it doesn't give you resources to survive. Humans in the world of TLOU fight each other because they want to have all of those things to ensure their survival even at the cost of other people dying. That and personal grudges. Having a vaccine wouldn't change this basic nature of humans and how they're in constant conflict with each other.
4. The Fireflies did not give Ellie or Joel a choice, forcing Joel to take action. Had they asked Ellie, the outcome could have been way different. Obviously this makes the Fireflies huge assholes to say the least, and even bad guys from certain perspective. They didn't even allow Joel to keep his gear as they attempted to escort him out of the hospital, which would have been a death sentence for him, or give him the guns he was promised as a deal at the beginning of the game.
5. The Fireflies wanted to operate on Ellie after spending how much time examining her? Well considering that they performed all of those tests while Joel was unconsious, they must have spent under an hour examining her. They really don't want to take just a little more time before making such a final decision of killing her? And those are the people that should be trusted to make the decision?
6. Even if the Fireflies manage to make the vaccine, something the two games can't seem to agree on, how could they possibly distribute it around the US? Many roads are fucked, fuel is scarce along with many other resources, and there aren't exactly an abundance of drivable vehicles around. Not to mention all the dangers involved when travelling the world.
7. Would the Fireflies be willing to give the vaccine to everyone just like that, even if they could? Or would they keep it to themselves? Or would they start making demands in order for other people to get it, creating more wars and power struggles?
When Sammy and Henry died I honestly felt nothing because they had just kind of annoyed me during my playthrough. There were just too many moments where I said to Henry "Alright, be like that then you asshole". The one thing, the ONE THING that the show handled better than the game was Henry and Sam.
Honestly I will not fault those that really do like this game because we're all human beings with differing opinions, but this game never looked appealing to me and I just could not stand how often it was shoved into my face, most notably when I was trying to watch South Park on its website back when I was more into it and the same ad for this game kept playing like 5 times in a row and just furthering my dislike of its existence. Ultimately I've mellowed out from that extreme disdain for The Last of Us' existence because it has every right to exist and be enjoyed by those that connect with its story and characters, but I'll never play it because it just has nothing that really appeals to what I like in a game, I don't like watching stories that have constant downer moments and atmosphere in them, I'm not into horror games which I technically would have to categorize The Last of Us as with its main premise of a "Zombie Apocalypse", and ultimately I feel like this game had an adverse effect on the gaming industry as a whole to further put more focus on a game's story and make it more like a movie than make it an actual game you play. If someone likes the Last of Us and even thinks of it as their favorite game of all time, then I'm happy for them and I'm not gonna stop them, but I'm definitely in the camp that thinks the game is overrated and nowhere near the greatest games of all time.
Played for the first time this week. Also have watched the show and gotta say that yes the story in the game is really good but the show elavates it to different level.
The gameplay at least in part one is really clunky at times. And not just shooting but how broken the melee can be at times.
In my opinion the story in the game is better, you just get so much more time with Joel and Ellie and wee their relationship gradually get better, but in the show it's just sorta goes from 0 to 100 in a single episode
I agree with you that the gameplay is kinda clunky, but the part 1 remake fixed those things, so If you ever want to replay this masterpiece I would buy the remake
Gonna be honest, I would've call the Last of Us the best game ever, not then or now. It did a lot of things it set out to do right, and that's worth a lot, but it didn't excel at them a lot or do anything new or creative compared to other games taking a lot of creative risks that paid off.
Chris on the boxxx??? Haha I never thought that was chris!! No way! I bought this game in 1996 and not even once I thought that was chris 😅😂 games in the 90s used “creative” covers, there are lots of cases.
Short answer: Yes.
Long Answer: YYEEESSSSS!!!
The Last of Us is a story about a father and daughter Bond world in the Apocalypse. Last of us will always be a Revolution game of all time and it's one of my favorites some say that you cannot compare to Mario 64. The one thing I Like About Last of Us is stealth mode attack and using weapons to kill hunters and Clickers that's why I love this game and I played this game so many times The Last of Us Part 1 will always be the greatest game ever
Bro why are you just like me fr. I got my PS4 for Christmas and got it only for Arkham Knight and the Last of Us lmao. I was also spoiler on it by watching Markiplier’s let’s play of it lol
One thing that I notice that people barely ever bring up is Ellie's mom. What did Ellie's mom want for her? Forget about what Marlene or Joel wanted. What did ANNA want? Anna and Joel were basically on the same page. Ellie wasn't born to just be some pawn for a dying organization. Anna didn't painstakingly give birth to her just to live a lonely life and die a guilt-ridden death.
The people she constantly talks about- Riley, Tess, Sam are people who just showed her enough care for her to believe that she mattered somehow. That's why she's being eaten up by her own guilt. She rarely, if not never, felt cared for throughout her entire life. She was a troubled kid who had no one. That's why she held these people so dearly to her. And what Joel said is true. None of their deaths were on her. Validating her guilt by saying that she could've saved people if she offered herself up to the fireflies is just messed up especially if we remind ourselves that Ellie is a kid suffering from PTSD (David) and severe survivor's guilt.
Besides, Marlene wasn't out there to "save the world". She was out there to save her dying organization. If she truly only wanted to save the world, why didn't se try to meet Ellie and Joel halfway? Why did they just wait for them to somehow show up? Did Marlene even think Ellie was still alive? Cause iirc there's a recording/note where she ponders the possibility that they could've died already. They were barely pulling their own weight and yet suddenly they have full control over what happens to Ellie's life?
Before i write this just want to say this opinion is all me and full of bias.
Watching this video I think I understand a bit more why I loved the original so much and why the second didn't hit for me?
No questions, like after playing the ending all the years ago I was obsessed in this really cool and positive cycle of discussion of was Joel right or wrong, what would you do if it was your loved one, is it even worth trying to restore a world so broken and so on and so forth that were all equally valid as they all upheld a theme of the the complexity of human emotion which was so gratifying and fun years after the game even released.
The second one had a specific message it wanted to tell and there was no room for discussion Ellie was wrong, Abby was wrong but redeemed herself both have lost everything, revenge is bad, forgiveness is good and trauma and grief drives us to do horrible things. Thats about it and I found it really boring paired with the immeasurable expectation I had from the first game but hey I can't fault it for trying a new direction