The Last of Us Did What Uncharted Failed To Do
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- Опубліковано 29 тра 2024
- Naughty Dog's Uncharted and The Last of Us have both received the live-action treatment in recent years, but one was met with a far more enthusiastic response from the audience...but why is that? This video sets out to explore why the Uncharted Movie got a more lukewarm response and why The Last of Us was one of the biggest shows of the year. While also giving my in-depth thoughts on both, as a fan of both.
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00:00 The Uncharted Movie
09:25 The Last of Us HBO Series
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The absolute highlight of that Uncharted fan film you mentioned with Nathan Filian, was when they briefly had the camera pan the same way it does in the games, and even have Nathan do a mimmick of his in-game animations! Details like that just never seem to make it into these..."professional movies".
Oberyn Martell and Lyanna Mormount on a road trip together taking down infected
I think that the difference in the cameos in both, the show and the movie, is a great microcosm of the difference in approach to both properties.
The show gives the actors actual characters to play. They aren't given focus simply cuz the gamers would like this reference! The camera focuses on their characters when it is appropriate for their characters to have it. Baker, Johnson, and Pierce were given thought-out, well-integrated roles to play with (didn't count Dandridge as she plays the same character, I wouldn't count it as a cameo). They all have moments to shine (Baker: the first scene with David, downing Ellie's horse, that awesome death. Johnson: that entire scene is just fucking phenomenal and emotional af. Pierce: you can tell that he trained for this part just by the way his character moves. That really comes through in that action setpiece). If someone knows who they are, it's fun for them & they can enjoy another performance from them. If they don't, they just continue watching the show as one would. There's substance to these characters, no cheap nudge & a wink to the audience.
Nolan North's cameo in the Uncharted movie is quite literally a nudge & a wink to the gaming audience. The movie stops in its track for like a minute or so to randomly meet this man who makes vague references to being in a similar situation. It's fun for those who know, sure. But I HAVE to imagine that the general audience was probably a little confused by that. There isn't a character for North, who is a terrific actor, to play. Just a part of some extra. No substance. Just a nudge and a wink to the audience.
I didn't need the movie to give North some BIG part. But they could've given him something more, something more interesting.
When I watched this on theater, there's a couple who also watches with me. The girl confused at North cameo and her bf needs to explain "He's the one who voiced and acted as Nate in game. Nate also go through these in games"
At that moment I know it isn't good cameo and Nolan North deserved better. Them eliminating Elena and didn't even include Emily Rose cameo (maybe because of schedule issue or other things?) was also terrible choice. They didn't even care about source material
Dont know if you’ll ever read this but I would like to thank you for getting me into modern naughty dog and helping me discover these masterpieces LOU and uncharted and helping me expand my game taste
I never thought of Nathan Drake as a city boy. Everytime you see him in some form of down time within the games, he's at some beach side bar. The only context of Nate living a normal life is in Uncharted 4, where the point is that Nate is no longer treasure hunting.
In Uncharted 1, there's a scene where Elena puts her hand up to signify "scout's honor", which is a boy scouts gesture. Nate says "whatever that means" which gives off the impression that Nate is not a normal person. So to see him ride in a New York subway and work a night shift at a bar, it almost felt insulting seeing such a rugged character get turned into a civilian.
I would have preferred if the movie started with the implication that he was already on a treasure hunt, like how Uncharted 1 opens with him already opening up a coffin from the ocean.
I think they actually made the plane scene more video gameish than the actual video game itself
I can imagine them adapting the beginning of uncharted one on the boat
I'm still amazed that the Mario movie made over $1 billion at the box office. Well done, Illumination, and well done, "Teen Titans Go!" writers (I love the programme).
*Teen Titans Voice Actors
@@warriorofthegrandline2y618
No, seriously, the film is written by the same duo who write for "Teen Titans Go!".
@@fictionalmediabully9830 well that explains why the films story sucked on ice
Bringing back Gustavo Santaolalla for the score. His score for the games is so unique, calming but also filled with tension and melancholy. The new stuff David Fleming brought to the table was great to, bringing most of the tension of the moments in the show like when the outbreak occurs in Texas.
I was hoping you’d bring it up, but in case you never watched it, I highly recommend checking out Nathan Fillion’s fan film Uncharted. THAT is how you do a faithful adaptation.
Good review thxs
You have some great reviews...Keep it up! 👍🏼
I was not opposed to following the adventures of a younger Nathan Drake. But the thing is that they should've made the Uncharted movie long ago, featuring an age-appropriate Nathan, with Bryan Cranston as Sully. Should've done it right after BrBa for a general audience interest boost.
In an article for the New Yorker, Druckmann said this about the Uncharted movie: “At some point, I think we (folks over at Naughty Dog) just said, ‘You guys run with it, because we can’t keep investing time in this.'"
And I fully get that. After the movie being stuck in development hell since 2008 and with countless actors, writers, and directors coming and going, and the execs CLEARLY not caring about the games or what the creators have to say (when Uncharted was optioned, Naughty Dog had ceded considerable creative control)... one can only do so much.
This was a perfect way to end this retrospective! Great job!
Great review
Thank goodness I’m not the only person that thinks that the uncharted movie was pretty good
Uncharted was good it just needs a sequel because uncharted 1 is an origin story
On roll with these TLOU videos J. My takeaway from this is: it doesn't matter WHAT medium the adaptation is, it's HOW one does that adaptation that counts. Book, game, movie, or other.
I actually enjoyed the uncharted movie but it did feel like a Tom Holland and walbeirg movie
But it was fun I liked it
The last of us show was good and I liked it but I was left wanting to see the infected more you know the whole thing that Ellie was supposed to save us from just live in the country and life goes on like normal apparently and yes I know they stick to the cities but we needed to see more in the show it was a huge let down
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Well, I would like to have moments where you can imagine gameplay
the Uncharted movie wasn’t even bad people deadass gassed it saying that it was bad, it wasn’t great but it was absolutely a fun movie. Also would still love to see you review Telltale’s TWD as those are at heart, narrative focused games
1:43 I loved ratchet and clank movie 2016
I've always said the first thing that made the game worthwhile is playable action sequences (which is the point most people get) but there's a second important thing: the characters (people seem to forget this one). The movie dropped the ball on both of those. They should have known they couldn't do the action sequences justice and focused more on getting the characters right.
Mark Wahlberg plays Mark Wahlberg in every movie he is in.
I wonder if they will include the plot point where a certain someone gets shot in the head, then walked it off in the next scene.
10:22 well, I would like video game movies to adapt game story
4:19 that’s the pripbelm for me
3:49 that’s why you should have more things than just the gameplay
I watched the show before I played the video game and I loved both. Then I played the second game and fell in absolute love with it. I cannot WAIT to see season 2 and note the similarities/differences between the show and the game! 🤩
I can't wait either. My mind keeps thinking about all the possibilities for new stories in the upcoming seasons. The fact that Maria is pregnant now could mean we get even more flashbacks of the Miller family between games, now that Ellie has a cousin. It will mean Tommy is going to Seattle despite having a kid to raise. They could do a whole episode on how the Seraphites came to be and the list goes on. Am totally hyped.
@@JsReviews yesssss you are so right, I would love to see a scene of their leader and how they came to be, and the riots that probably took place after she was executed. I am so glad they said Part II couldn’t be fit into one season so they’re going to span it out, that means we’ll get a lot of content and hopefully more backstories and lore!! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
It would be nice of you to cover Killer7
1:43 I love this film
4:19 they should have adapted drakes fortune
The story is still good
Hi J, I just wanted to let you know that Capcom has released a survey for resident evils fans to fill out and asking them which resident evil game should be remade next. So if you’re interested for that Code Veronica remake then you should fill out the survey whenever you like and request them to remake resident evil Code Veronica. But if you don’t want to then that’s fine. I thought you might want to know. Great video by the way.
Is 5 on the list of options?
@@chriscannon8144 the survey is for capcom to know which resident evil game should be remade next after 4. The fans can request whatever resident evil game that should be remade next. You can request a resident evil 5 remake or code veronica remake.
@@keithfernandez8546 K, thanks.
What about self? Insert protagonist?
9:09 how about adapt drakes fortune
Talked about adaptations with a friend recently (due to the one piece show). And what i said they did well (as did hbo with TLOU) is that they kept the core of the story and characters intact.
What uncharted did (as many disney live action remakes) was change the core of things. Like something worked and now u get rid off the soul of it all and then u wonder why its not popular like the original? Well yeah no shit.
God of war , gravity rush , and jack and daxter I can’t wait for! 🙌🏼 They have potential to be good movies/shows
I sure hope so.
Was there anything you thought the HBO show just straight up did worse than the game?
Episode 6 may well have been my favorite if not for the university segment, just felt it was so rushed in the show. The rebar is unrealistic but I thought the game did a far better job of showing how injured Joel is. Ellie has to prop him up, your vision's all blurred and you can see the shitton of blood that Joel's lost.
In comparison, the show ends about a minute after Joel gets stabbed with an incredibly poor choice of credits music seeing the episode out. That bit especially doesn't compare in my opinion.
Hard for me to say. I think I just generally prefer the game overall. The game can just take more time and build things up slower. I do think your point about Episode 6 made sense. But there aren’t a ton of things that come to my mind when I think of what the game did better, when I just like the overall experience of playing the game more.
@@JsReviews I think those who played the game first are always going to prefer it. I like Pascal as Joel and god knows I love Bella as Ellie but they're always going to be second place for me.
I'd actually say I don't think there are too many things I think the show did better or worse than the game. Most things land in a grey area - I loved the complete rewriting of Bill's story but wouldn't want it to replace what was in the game, it's nice to have the different approaches provided it stays true to the soul of the original and doesn't go the way of the Netflix Witcher.
Yeah, that end credits music (while beautifully sung) doesn't quite fit. Using a somber track from the game or just using silence would've been better (For ex: didn't like the insert of Joel & Sarah in ep. 1. Either just include the shot of that soldier's flashlight and then cut to Joel in the present, or don't have it at all. I LOVED the insert of Joel & Sarah's hands decorating the tree. I didn't like the insert of Sarah's face that followed). I have a couple other nitpicks of editing choices here and there, but largely I LOVED the show. I kinda agree on your "gray area" sentiment in your other comment.
I am not one for comparisions. Especially since these are two different mediums. I'd rather focus on what they do well, what were some missteps etc. To me, the game is the game and the show is the show. They are different experiences and I engage with them differently. Which is a GOOD THING. It's like reading, say, the Harry Potter books vs. watching the movies. Both had their own appeal, were fun, and I found different things to enjoy in both.
I especially don't like comparing Joel & Ellie's two sets of performers. To me... Both performances are excellent and serve their respective project well. I didn't go into the show hoping to find Pascal & Ramsey be better or worse than Baker & Johnson. I went in simply hoping to see a fresh take on the characters that I love DEEPLY, hoping that they still maintained the core of these characters. And I got that in spades. I walked out of the show not with a ranked list, but rather with a deeper love for the characters of Joel & Ellie & this story, if that makes sense.
the super mario bros movie may be one of the highest grossing movies of our time but i still feel there are moment's when that movie suffers the video game movie curse!
Is the next retrospective going to be the Batman Arkham games?
I don't know I just kind of thought it was boring.
To me Last of Us was so incredible boring. It had a few bright spots but besides that I'd take the games anyday
10:36 How The Last Of Us Changed The Gamimg industry | 10 Years Later Retrospective
I remember watching the uncharted movie and really enjoying it. I was surprised when I found out the general opinion of the movie was that it sucked
If the do Ghost of Tsushima I'd like a TV show more then a movie. As for the Uncharted never played game so I liked movie if I played games I would probably fill the same way. Agin never played last of us Eather!
Tom Holland as Nathan drake was a horrible choice. Drake doesnt have a baby face like Holland does. Nathan Fillion was the best option
27:44 Sorry you can’t take that risk anymore, dude. I know would if you could. UA-cam and their inconsistent rules, makes me wonder what even was the point of the YTKids option.
Not even gonna lie I loved the hell out of the uncharted movie especially that final scene when sully had the mustache, I'm so glad it's getting a sequel.
silent hill next??
I actually kind of liked the Uncharted film, is that wrong of me to say? I don’t know, I wasn’t bored by the film, I found it enjoyable, liked the action scenes, the costume design, and the score. That’s pretty much it.
Uncharted movie missed what uncharted is... his banter his relationship with his peers its not bad but its just not uncharted...
TLOU is roughly TLOU it gets nearly everything right and brings everything over in a condensed version. My only complaints with TLOU S1 is the music placements and the infected. Music is such a key element to why the game is loved. Certain scenes just dont hit as hard in the tv show because of it e.g. end of david's section, it also loses the survival aspect of story because there's not enough infected very good adaption considering my nitpicks.
wonder when we'll get a Red Dead show....
Thankfully the Uncharted games already feels like movies so.... no harm done lol
Great video as always! FYI, Bella Ramsey goes by they/them pronouns nowadays
Episode 3 was a masterclass at how much potential TV shows actually have when they have an absolutely amazing staff on board.
@@WarpChaoshe gay romance comes from the game, you know.
@@WarpChaosTwo men in love?? Oh, the humanity!
@@WarpChaosAccording to a Reddit post:
If you actually played the game you'd be aware that they were, in fact, in love.
And yes, they drastically changed the story here because it made for a better story overall to actually show the relationship these two had.
No it was not. Killing off a character that should have never been killed off in the first place is not master class in anything other than unfaithfulness.
@@gamestation2690Could've literally had show exclusive footage of their relationship and lead up to their argument, and tragic separation. But no, they made up something that wasn't in the game.
The Last of Us HBO series was the reason I subbed to HBO Max, no regrets. And episode 3 was a really good example of how to write a same sex relationship
You’re lame
Let me guess some guy said " your wrong" then you commented your lame and that goblin deleted his comment
I didn’t notice he left until just now
I actually really enjoyed the Uncharted film, I didn't know people didn't like it?
The Last of Us TV show, I have less than no interest in watching as I had less than no interest in the game, but I've heard people enjoyed it.
Both were because of the quality and approach of their adaptation methods.
The Uncharted Film tried too hard to be a Hollywood blockbuster that it felt so wrong by those who have actually played the games and seen the characters. In addition, the set pieces were very "greatest hits" in terms of feel, like they only did them just to do CG action scenes, finale included.
The Last of Us Show had better direction towards what to expand upon while keeping the identity and feel of the story intact, which is a rarity in Hollywood.
They should've had Jackie Chan help direct Uncharted
Okay, so in terms of Uncharted, I’ve never played the game,and I started the movie, got about 3/4’s in and then never finished. It’s not bad, but felt so by the numbers. Everything is good, but just doesn’t stand out. It definitely didn’t make me want to play the games, but I wouldn’t avoid them either.
As for the Last of Us,I played both games and really enjoyed the show, but I actually prefer the bitter sweet ending of Frank’s story in the game, I think episode 3 is a little over hyped. It’s good but I don’t see why people think it’s the greatest thing ever, and as I said I prefer the games version highlighting the harshness of this world and setting…and frankly Frank would be awful to live with. With all that said though, the show is excellent, and maybe a little frustrating watching week to week, but excellent on a binge.
0:58 but didn’t you say in your toxic nostalgia video you felt that familiarity with a franchise wasn’t a requirement for working on it? Or am I misremembering
The only quote of mine that sounds vaguely like that is when I talked about how Pontac and Graff were not familiar with Sonic before working on it and how people sending them hate over video games were losers. I said that being familiar with a series isn’t a requirement to work on it because in the industry, that’s often how it works. Guest writers come on, write for one episode or whoever many and that’s it. But that it’s up to the show runners to know what they are doing to make sure things are consistent, something Sega failed at. In this video I make the claim that the best video game adaptations are by people who know and like the Material but aren’t so big of fanboys that they won’t make change.
@@JsReviews thanks for clarifying
@@JsReviews what’s your opinion on the telltale, walking dead games?
I wonder what the real point of a video game adaptation is. Something like the Last of Us makes sense as a TV adaptation, but was there really a point in something like the Mario movie?
I’m not sure how much gameplay-centric series like Mario can benefit from a film, given that gameplay is the core of video games.
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It’s just as underrated as the Mario movie
They stuffed all 4 games into one movie. Nothing else needs to be said.
The Uncharted movie was okay, I think it was because I had such low expectations for it that when I saw it, it kinda met that expectation. I do think the script for the movie should've been worked on better, maybe adapt and fix up the story of the first game mix with the flashbacks about Sam. And I also think it was the casting of Nate and Sully that really had me baffled. I like Tom and Mark but they weren't Nate and Sully. Everytime Tom came on screen I kept thinking this isn't Nathan Drake, this is Peter Parker.
As for the Last of Us show....ugh. I could go on about my thoughts on the show but it would be too long so this is my stance on it in one sentence "it was so mediocre that it was disappointing."
The part where you said talking about The Last of Us online the last few years being like raw sewage kind of sounds like insulting your fans that reasonably disagree with you 😅
Of course some people are very unreasonable as well 😂
I think I'm just reading too much into when you call your family members normal right after 😆
Nah he’s right. The discourse online from the haters, and the people who support TLOU2 has been extremely fucking tiring. Mostly from the haters.
@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen8674 I don't know if you can be considered a hater if you have valid objective criticism. 🤔
Seems like the biggest difference between people is whether they just like the theme and feeling it gives them compared to the people that want to make sense story wise.
Feels like the dichotomy of thinking and feeling
I hope they race swap abby, like they did with most females, it would make things more fun.
I would rather sit through Uncharted than TLOU show guys, I’m sorry.
First
But we can all agree,Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is still the Number 1 best Video Game Adaptation to ever be created.
Yes. It’s the perfect middle point between respecting the games and telling a new and good, nay, GREAT story
No
@@JsReviews Explain,I like to hear your perspective on why Sonic 2 isn’t the best video game movie.(No hate,I genuinely wanna your perspective on it)
@@AshtonHenry900 I love Sonic and I loved Sonic the Hedgehog 2... but come on, Arcane is the one true perfect videogame adaptation.
Simply put, I think nothing of Sonic 2 other than it being an entertaining kids film that was fun to watch as an adult too. It being a better Sonic Movie was also a nice perk. I can’t say a movie with a 15 minute wedding slapstick scene is the best video game adaptation. It’s a fun silly movie, but it’s nothing more than that. Enjoyed the Mario movie more.
I feel its worth addressing how much better TLOU adapted its brand compared to not just Uncharted, but even Mario in that same year. Mario was no doubt successful and a cultural phenomenon in the Animation department, but what made Mario so successful was just its branding and advertisement of the Mario franchise. Remove all that, and you would get an Illumination movie that still boarders of the generic kiddy bullshit their best known for. TLOU was an achievement that proved how to tell an amazing story while staying true to its original source material. The important thing about any Game to Movie adaptation, is focusing on the appeal of the audience and creating a compelling story BEFORE adapting the source material and references
I’m sorry but I can’t agree the casting of the main characters really didn’t make it for me. I wasn’t mad about it but the Ellie casting just didn’t align and couldn’t make it past ep 1
I love the Uncharted games but the movie itself wasn't good.
…Be good? 😭
The Uncharted movie could have been truly great, but Sony Pictures as a Studio is an utter joke. Outside Spider-Man, they can't do jackshit, and even then they also screw over their Spider-Man projects, if it wasn't for Marvel Studios and Phil Lord and Christopher Miller they would already be out.
Uncharted was never going to be a huge success as a film. The games were always deliberately over the top and filled with throw backs to Indiana Jones and 80's/90's action movie tropes. By the 2nd game they added some Mission Impossible style sequences and the rest is history.
The last of us show wasn’t that good. Not good to receive 100 rating. Uncharted fail starting by the casting. They didn’t even try. So much potential wasted
1. it doesn't have a 100 on Rotten Tomatoes. It has a 96. The score falls to 91% when you filter the review by "top critics"
2. Those aggregate numbers on RT do not mean that this thing is 96%/91% good. It just means that out of all the reviews that the site counted (from trusted and verified sources), 96% of all critics (and 91% of top critics) gave it a favourable review. Now, this can range from "it is worth watching" to "fun enough" to "a really good, well-made show" to "a truly great tv show". Think of it as 90%+ critics giving it a numerical rating that fell in the range of 6.5/7-10
It was a good movie, but not Uncharted
The last of us TV show was awful. The acting sucked, the pacing was terrible, they jammed in too many side characters and plots. Bella Ramsey was just awful as Ellie
And the last pf us tv show failed to do what the game did, so dont watch either of them.
Can you FINALLY DO CLASSIC MEGA MAN PLEASE
Maybe I’ll do that when I feel like doing that.
Dw guys the last of us d-riding arc will end soon im sure
Don’t be so sure.
Did you saw that Rei-san (@ghostth9942) is going to fix the control problems in Sonic Free Raiders so you play the game and can actually have fun