Dave Matthews Finally Discusses Boyd Tinsley
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2018
- Dave Matthews finally discusses his relationship and past issues with former member Boyd Tinsley... We break down what was said and not said in the latest from Dave Matthews
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If you’re trying to listen to Dave, he makes a short point at 3:28 and then the rest of his reaction is at 4:32. Andy, if you insist on talking this much, play the clips of Dave and then share your reaction afterwards. Viewers choose this video to hear Dave and they get a long rant from someone they don’t know.
bluewaterpig you’re out of your element homie but thanks for checking out the vid
Anthony OnAir You’re a piece of shit. Read these comments. No one cares about your commentary. YOU’RE out of your element.
@@AnthonyOnAir I agree with Bluewaterpig, but great Big Lebowski reference.
@@AnthonyOnAir he's right. You talk too fucking much
@@AnthonyOnAir I agree with bluewaterpig.
This could have been edited down to 2 minutes
I hate that I knew that within 30 seconds
don't be fooled by the click bait title
Dave talks 3:30 to 4:00, and 4:30 to 6:15
the rest of the time is this guy supplying his reasons that Dave didn't say.
Holy shit thank you
What interview is this from? Id rather just hear that. This guy is annoying
Luc P He's annoying as hell!!! I wanted to not hear him, but I didn't want to miss any of the interview.
I♥️radio inside the studio podcast
Lol this guy starts out acting like he had dave in studio. Hes playing someone elses shit and then repeats everything word for word like its his own assessment. Lame
Ya for sure..fuck this guy. Get a real job...or put in work until it's you asking the questions to Dave in person.
lol don't let the hate get to you man
Dave needs a violinist, period. Saw him in VB and it was great, but missing a violinist. Dave has all the resources and could have given a remarkable new violinist a life changing opportunity.
Yeah there is something missing with their sound. I don't think there is a way to replace Boyd. He was amazing. The songs just don't sound the same. To me, it's still good, and I still go to concerts, but DMB isn't DMB without Boyd Tinsley. Also sucks that they blamed the "me too" crap when they're saying there had been issues for a long time...
@@deathtotruthers1 They didn’t blame the “me too” movement. They blamed Boyd. I don’t know if you’ve ever read the text messages from Boyd but maybe you should. They did what they had to do. They had no choice, whether there was a “me too” movement or not.
@@Trouble-Clef Exactly. Dave even said that he's a fiercely loyal person, which is why he probably let the other stuff slide for so long.. But when a dude gets pegged as a predator, you kinda have to go "you know what? I believe that was the final straw. That was the limit of my loyalty, it has been reached."
Also, the fanbase kinda doesn't dig when one member of the band is a sex pest... Especially not in this day and age. I mean if it was the 80s pretty much anything would be acceptable. Half the rock and roll scene of the 80s were just rapists and drug addicts.
Same thing happened with Sigur Ros once it came out that the drummer was a sex pest. Dude had to go, obviously.
Can't just shrug and go "oh well, people are people I guess!" and do nothing.. Doing nothing is doing something in this instance.. It's siding with the sex pest. When stuff like this happens you HAVE TO PICK A SIDE.. That's just how it is. Staying true to your guy out of loyalty is a choice just as much as throwing a sex pest under the bus is a choice.
I expected him to stand up for Boyd. Instead, he threw Boyd under the bus and didn't give Boyd the benefit of the doubt.
4:35 if you just want to here Dave tell it.
sara thanks
you'ze the best
Thank you, this guy is so annoying
Thank you, Jesus this guy is annoying. And he could have just played the interview, he didnt need to stop it every 30 seconds to repeat what was just said...
Thanks
I was at SPAC for both nights. The shows were just full of this energy that was absolutely contagious. However, I will say this... as a long time fan (since I first heard Crash at 14 years old and going to my first show at 19, I'm 32 now), you definitely miss the sound of the violin in certain songs. Not Boyd so much although he did work magic with the violin, but the sound of it pulling the songs together, that was really noticeable. Buddy Strong brings such a reinvigorating energy to the band though and it was amazing to see that rub off on the crowd. We all were feeding off of it... but I do hope they get someone to play the violin as a guest... at least for some of the older songs that seemed to have been made for the sound of a violin.
I was also at SPAC for both nights. What an amazing weekend. While I was at first unsure of how the band would sound without Boyd, once they started playing I wasn't missing him at all because the band certainly didnt seem like they were missing him either. To hear Dave give some context to the situation tells me that Boyd's departure was a blessing in disguise and I am excited about their future. SPAC was incredible! HOW ABOUT THAT TWO STEP?!
BeanTube I think I grew two extra legs just to be able to dance to that epic Two Step. I don't know of it was the air that night (😁)or what but every single song was just on point. That #41!! The crowd!
I was at SPAC Saturday and it was the BEST DMB show I’ve seen there. Loved it. And I’m so glad it’s on their UA-cam page so I can watch it again!
Two Hand Tunes agreed. I've been to SPAC before but these two shows... I can't stop calling them amazing and the fact that I get to relive night two when I want, is even better
My first show ever was a couple months before LeRoi died. I wish I got to see him more.
I love boyd and im happy there is a plethora of DMB songs I can always jam that he was a part of. But honestly, with their success, we are SO lucky they stayed together as long as they have. On a positive note, if it was just Dave, Carter and Stefan, & no one else, you'd still have one Hell of a great band
and everyone has forgotten about Butch... Guy was with them for years, and he was incredible!
I agree. Not sure why he got the boot.
If my memory serves me correctly, I think it had to do with money…
too much Anthony, not nearly enough Dave.
Interview is from "Inside The Studio" with Joe Levy, if you want it without the extra long leadup, interjections, etc
I think the tragic death of LeRoi Moore 10 years ago had a more devastating impact on the band than any other single factor. I've been a fan since 1995 and some of my greatest musical memories took place during the eight straight years I saw them at the Gorge Amphitheater. LeRoi was special. I think, in a lot of ways, he was the bridge between personalities, the glue, the peacemaker of the group. A musician with incredibly rare talent, who was simply impossible to replace. The day he died, they became a different band, and should have retired the DMB name and picked a new one. I think it's for the best that Boyd and the band have parted ways. The reasons being many, I'm sure.
Great comment Ryan! Thanks so much... Hope you subscribe if you're not already! We've all had some great times with the bands and I definitely miss what Leroi brought to the table... But its nice that we have all the recordings so we can visit with him whenever we want. Although sad that he's gone, I find myself really excited for what the band is doing now and what they'll do next... Come Tomorrow is, for me, up there with any of their great works!
The DMB without LeRoi and Boyd aren’t remotely the same band. I’ve seen DMB many times before LeRoi died and I haven’t had any desire to see them since. Boyd’s absence only further solidifies that. Nothing can recapture the magic of those first 5 (actually, first 3) studio albums, but this band isn’t remotely as good as there were with the original 5 (plus Tim). I had the Busted Stuff album a full 2+ years before they released it when you could find it on Napster as the “Lillywhite Sessions” when they decided to make a transition to release the “Everyday” album.
I actually like DMB better since Jeff joined funny enough. I like Dave's voice as it gets older. I like Red Rocks 95 but other than that, the better live albums are like 2007 onward in my opinion. Live at Piedmont is my favorite and yea that one is with Leroi. Live Trax 36 is the next best one.
Leroi Moore was my first saxophone hero, when I was a teenager and aspiring saxophonist. DMB was popular at my high school and I played in 2 DMB cover bands. To this day, he was one of my all-time favorite players, though I've grown to love Jeff Coffin too. I follow Jeff on social media and he's always speaking out for a good cause and making the world a better place. I still love listening to the older albums though, but it's a shame hearing Boyd knowing that he want on to abuse his success to exploit young musicians.
They’re great with or without Boyd. If he is a creep, good riddance...Dave wouldn’t have let him go if he was innocent. Buddy is truly amazing, and the band will always be amazing. Roll with the changes, people. And of course, if they feel they need a violin, they’ll get another great one. That’s it!
SuperHowyalikemenow Dave didnt let Boyd go he already quit. This ungrateful pos is trying to make it sound like it was his decision.
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Ungrateful for what? Boyd's behavior? His habitual out of tune playing?
Agree with a lot of what you said, Anthony. I'm not saying this as an "I knew it!", but the shows I'd been to the past 3 or 4 years, you really got the feeling that Boyd just stood on the side and waited for an older song to come around, and then he'd take the stage and do his thing. As Theo said below, the last few albums really seemed to have less and less of Boyd, and if its because his focus wasn't there and he wasn't carrying his portion of the load in writing and composing the songs, then all this was probably inevitable, maybe all the allegations were just the nudge the band needed to say "you know what, enough is enough". I hate to say that like I think the pain someone else (allegedly) went thru was good for the band. But every long running band (Grateful Dead, Allman Brothers, etc) goes thru their iterations, we're currently watching this band go thru one of theirs.
And to think that now, Dave, Carter, and Stefan having been getting on stages for 25+ years playing some of the SAME SONGS over and over again, bringing in fresh perspectives and fresh ideas seems like a necessity. I think the same thing when people complain about their setlists and not hearing the songs they want, or the band pulling out "bad" songs. I think that's what makes them great. You're buying a ticket to watch this band continue to evolve. They've got songs from albums that sit in a drawer for 5 or 6 years, but then one day they pull them out, maybe a new member has a new spin, and suddenly you want to hear that song. Not a lot of bands have that talent and depth.
Awesome!
Boyd’s greatest moment: Lie in our graves.
emarskineel Butch too.
With Bela Fleck as well
Na, tripping billies all day
Ants Marching!
This is almost like a clickbait headline. Boyd Tinsley was fired because of his sexual misconduct. Not one word in this recording by Dave about that issue. So after hearing this narrator rant and rave about inconsequential material and basically to hear himself talk, when we finally get to hear Dave being interviewed by somebody entirely different whom this imposter doesn't even identify, we still know absolutely nothing about the firing of Boyd Tinsley.
We cover all that in different videos. Click on our dmb playlist
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I still miss Butch Taylor...😢
Whatever happened to him? Why did he stop touring with the band?
I heard...of course I don't KNOW, but I heard that there was conflict with Butch wanting to be a member of the band and he wasn't invited to be. He was just a traveling guest. I heard he also wanted more of a band member's cut of the money so he either left or was asked to stop playing with the band. Of course I don't know this as fact, but makes sense.
Thanks Hung Over!
interesting take.. I always thought it kind of corresponded with the passing of leroi.. I could be mistaken and I would have to double check the timing but I always thought maybe he didnt like the sound or direction of the band and decided to leave.
Hung Over negative. He was definitely viewed as a member of the band. The issue was that Dave and Butch were having significant differences when it came to music. Dave wouldn't budge and butch ended up stepping away (or getting fired) and as simple as it sounds, that was it.
DMB just isn’t the same without Boyd.
The DMB music is evolving in wonderful ways. When you are there you can hear/feel the new energy. Experiencing Dave/Tim alone provides an awesome baseline of their soul/direction. Add Stefan, Carter, Rashawn, Jeff and now.... Buddy Strong..... Keep falling down the stairs and coming up with the new Gems Dave. How about a Doors cover with the new keyboards???? Perhaps at the Gorge?
It's not the same band when songs like Dancing Nancies comes on and there's not a violin. I took my girlfriend to her first dmb show and the first thing she said that stood out to me was "I wish we would have got to the hear violin parts." Its not the same live. They're still better than most live. But several songs are just lost without a violin. I love dave I just wish my girl would have got to see the real band once.
@@JD-wc3pn here come the violin goons 🙄 can y’all just let us keep enjoying this band without stomping all over everything that brings other joy for once?
The band wrote the songs with the violin, therefore we wanna hear the violin
The violin was the biggest draw for me....without it i am not full listening to them. WHYYYYYY won't they replace the violinist!!!???!!
Ahh but Buddy Strong is AWESOME!!!
@@Trouble-Clef but.......I miss the violin 🎻
The woman that came in to play the Hollywood Bowl end of 2022 tour was AMAZING and brought the Boyd sound back, I turned to my wife and said they need to bring her into the band... So sorry for us all that hasn't happened yet! Who was she? Can she please go on tour with the band??
Thanks for the context!
I love Boyd. He has and is always special to me when I think of this band. BUT I gotta agree that he was off for a while. Almost like his presence is not really felt. I saw them in Saratoga last week and it was like a fresh new energy. You can't deny that. Things change. It hurts not to see BT, but, the man has issues that he needs to deal with. And you can't hurt the whole group for one. I truly hope he gets it together, but we move on.
L Alexander I agree. SPAC was incredible!
Agreed. I think those awful text messages were just a straw that broke the camels back. Even if nothing else had happened though they couldn’t ignore that.
Thank you for some light on the subject
Bro Boyd left the band because of sexual abuse accusations from his other band. Dude likes dirty socks. It’s not about not having focus.
It was that and he wasn't focused. His violin playing fell off. Dave said in his own words he was holding the band back like they were dragging him a long but he only put minimum effort.
I went to the Hartford show in Juneau’s had a great time. I have also been listening to the Sirius channel non stop. I do have to say listening to the older tunes without out the violin is difficult. I don’t care for the direction of the band. I can do without Tim Reynolds crazy guitar solos on almost every song. Buddy is very talented but listening to ants and warehouse just isn’t the same.
Yeah...Tim gets a little exhausting, and Jeff overblows everything he plays. It's disappointing.
Paul Randazzo, Glad to here you say that!! I've been reading comments here & during a live streaming of a show and people are saying the band sounds sooo much better without Boyd. I don't agree with that at all. The absence of him and his violin leave a pretty big hole musically. I enjoyed the concert I went to last month because it was the band, but no matter what they tried to fill the gaps with it just didn't sound .....you could tell something was missing.
I wont say the band "sounds better without Boyd" but they certainly aren't hurting. Their performance of Ants at SPAC N1 this year was absolutely phenomenal and I was not missing Boyd one bit that night. I find people are too stuck on what they're used to and when some change comes their way the first reaction is to be critical of it. I don't see it like that. It's no one's fault but Boyd's that he isn't there and I find Buddy Strong to be a welcome addition to the band. Anyone shitting on their current wave is clearly not having as much fun as I do at their shows and if that's the case I feel bad for you!
Exactly.
Again, it’s not the absence of Boyd because if he did what he is accused of then he should be out of the band. All I am saying is the violin has a very distinct sound and adding a piano player or filling his spots in pig with a trumpet is just not the same. I hope going forward that they bring in another violist if Boyd’s ship has sailed. I love the band and will go to see them no matter what I just think that there is a void in some of the older tunes.
First. Thanks for the coverage. #lovemore
Interestingly enough I have felt for a long time that Busted Stuff was the last Album where Boyd had song defining presence on an album. Personally I always felt like Boyd plucking and strumming his violin on entire songs was a huge copout. I’m so glad to hear Dave talk about some of their internal struggles. It lets me know that the things I felt like I was picking up on during the Charley Rose interview during the Everyday sessions, and LeRoi’s statement to Dave during Big Whiskey, that I wasn’t wrong. There were troubles among them that was keeping them from creating the music they should have been creating. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a DMB “purist” but the band hit a wall after BTCS that they didn’t start to find their way out of until Big Whiskey. This band has been a massive influence on me in so many ways. I don’t need to know every single detail of the whens and hows. I’m glad to know that Dave is in a great place, the band is feeling energized/revitalized, and unified. I feel bad for Boyd and I hope he gets himself the help he needs.
Very well said Theo! I agree with every point you make... I'll have to go back and rewatch that Charlie Rose Interview... Vaguely remember that...
Theo Smith I feel bad for Boyd as well. I don’t know him personally and I don’t know if he did anything wrong. But sometimes you get a feeling if someone is good or bad. I’ve always felt he was a good dude. If he did something wrong he deserves his punishment. We all know people love to accuse others of things even if it’s not true. As a musician, I think he’s amazing.
Aw come on. Every since Boyd has been gone people have said "Boyd wasn't the same" " Boyd was a weirdo" etc. Bull! He was the same Boyd we all loved for 25 years. Everyone has to act like they know something they don't.
And hit a wall after BTCS ? Please.
It seems like what Dave is saying what a lot of us pure DMB fans were sort of thinking all along.
Dave Matthews band is why I picked up the guitar, after bccs I drifted away and got really into tool. It’s the drums
Both great musical choices!
This guy broke this video down like he’s joe rogan and all his followers just wanted to hear his thoughts on this lol
Dave part starts at 3:29
The piercing haunting powerful high notes that LeRoi struck which were both unexpected yet familiar were the essence of the band and brought Dave's amazing song writing to a level of human experience and meaning that was the air and the power of the group. When that was lost the band forever changed. When the accompanying violin moments/notes were also lost the band really really changed. Jeff's notes are soulless, Rashawn is great but it's too brass, Tim on all but a handful of nights has a tone that is really grating, buddy is great but you can never hear him, leaving the original three who are still geniuses and so amazing to hear. The band would be better as a trio now. I miss LeRoi so much. Saw so many shows during 1994-2004 and they were experiences that will always be with me.
Damn I know this is a late ass reply but this is what I’ve been thinking for quite some time! 👍🫶🏼
Naw, I love them all and I’m just happy they are touring and giving us amazing memories STILL. A lot of bands haven’t been able to achieve what DMB has for as long. I don’t don’t think them becoming a trio with just Dave, Carter, and Stephan will ever happen and that viewpoint may disappoint you. Just my opinion though, from one DMB fam to another.
We may never find out the specifics of Boyd's issue, but Dave had to fire Boyd because it was a very negative affect on the Band as a whole!!! $$$$$$$ is the bottom line period!!!! It sucks big time, because the songs where the violin is supposed to be is a void. I've seen them a few times since Boyd's departure, at SPAC/Saratoga, NY and Times Union in Albany NY and they don't sound the same! This is not a negative reflection on Buddy Strong though, he plays magnificently and is a fresh addition to the band as a whole!!! Bottom line is Boyd got "caught up" and his demons and lack of control, caused it!!!!!
If that's true then at least replace the violin solos with a filler violin player. Dancing Nancies sucks now
I have them on successive nights in different venues on this tour. The first night, they sounded to me like they were picking songs that Boyd wasn't a big part of and trying to work around his absence. The second night, Tim played some of the parts on slide guitar and Buddy took the others and it was as if no one was missing at all. It was notable to me that both nights the band left *immediately* after the show (faster than fans could walk to their cars) and each member was in a separate tour bus.
They have four busses.I didn't think they had that many in the past.
I think this change is good and will take it all to another level.
Please re title this clip. 10 minutes of you talking about Dave Matthews talking about Boyd, is not in any way shape or form, "Dave Matthews finally talks about Boyd Tinsley".
Thank you Luc P for cutting to the chase. I wanted to hear from Dave. Period. I wanted to hear Dave's bottom line. Period. Appreciated what he said. Know what's it like to be on a team where everyone is rowing hard and strong in the same direction except...one person. They got to go.
Why not replace the "accused" member if you don't want to hurt your reputation by keeping him in until he's actually proven guilty. Guilty until proven innocent I guess. Taking out solos in songs and playing them like nothings different isn't the same. They still play the songs Boyd wrote but he's not in them. It's like hearing a band where one of the main members died. It's good but not the same
There are recordings of Dave and Boyd getting into it on stage back in early 90s. I saw them many times 91-94, and the tension was alive and well.
Douglas Wiegand really? Ever see one of these online?
Not that I'm aware of. I have a bunch of cassette bootlegs from Trax and Floodzone in VA. Gonna convert them some day to digital
@@douglaswiegand1565 Awesome! Would love to hear those when you do!
I've got a handful of boots from '90-'94 bit I've never really paid attention to if any onstage tension existed. I saw them in '94 at a now-defunct club here in SC and everything seemed fine. But I'm just a face in the crowd as it is.
@@gamecock1972 It'd be awesome to get those digitized and online... Thing is though until Everyday, did anyone really know there was friction there... And even during that time I wasn't sure who it was between!
I have been following this band around for a long time. The two shows I have seen this summer have been two of the best shows ever. My two sons and I went to Clarkston/Detroit in early June, and then went to the Saturday night of Creekend in Indy July 7. That show was off the hook! I am a concert-aholic and I have rarely enjoyed a show so much. None of us missed Boyd, after thinking it would never be the same without him! This band is energized and at the top of their game musically. I wish I could go see them again, and I hope they tour again next summer! My two set lists were awesome, too. Also LOVE the XM Channel!
This entire time, I thought Boyd was cut loose because of the allegations, but now I’m hearing that he left and it had nothing to do with those. I have a higher admiration for both DMB and Boyd
Dave a class act always. I feel the new power and love the new configuration. This may just be the catalyst for new inspiration and opportunity.
Your daughter is going to find this video
I clearly remember (now) LeRoi saying that to, Dave. It was in that documentary.
Where?
@@chrisarevalo9890 I believe it might be in this documentary the link below.
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Im a small fish...im a singer and songwriter that has always idolized Dave and the band. My 2 cents is this. Over ten years ago...im at my 2nd DMB show and im trying to work my way back to get my demos into the right hands. I actually met Leroy More's nephew who was holding like 10 FAMILY BACKSTAGE PASSES....I ended up getting one....didnt meet anyone but Carter for a second. But the strange thing is this...and it has had me guessing ALL THESE YEARS...maybe now it makes since. Anyway...i built a good repor with this Nephew....who I will not name. I was asking him all kinda stuff...like SO YOU HANG OUT WITH DAVE SOMETIMES??? He is like yeah...they all come to the house for Thanksgiving every year and they are all cool...well...except for that one.....Im like who? And he said it was Boyd. I didnt comprehend anything at that time...kinda guessed he was saying Boyd was just an ass sometimes or something....but now...knowing this...and the way this kid said it....he was like....THAT ONE...YOU KNOW....like I knew....But I had no Idea. I dont know the truth but i think it cool that after a long time....things made sence...kinda like a sneak peak into a world Id OTHERWISE NEVER KNOW.
That's a misleading thumbnail
Perhaps Boyd lost his focus because he knew deep in his heart that something bad was coming down the pike. The timing of BT taking time off and the allegations against him cannot just be a coincidence... this is just my take on this. I'm certain that this situation must have been killing Dave inside.. they were close friends for many years. I love the new dynamics of the band, Buddy is a great fit and they have a wonderful refreshing sound.
As a fan listening it only affects you in a small way. As a musician ONE NIGHT WITH A GUY LIKE THAT is devastating. They put up with it for years. Im not a big fan of DMB but i do love and respect their music. I picked up on this guys attitude and out of key playing years ago. Just thought i would give an unbiased opinion.
And that's y we might not get a new violinist
Thank you
I thought dave is talking.
My wife and I traveled from Michigan for both SPAC shows. First time we’ve been there. We’ve seen DMB at the Gorge and Alpine Valley, but this was the most energized crowd ever!
Thank you for keeping us updated
My pleasure Harrison... Thanks for the kind comment!
My brother knew them back in the 90's and everyone knew how Boyd was. It was just known...sort of like all the comedians knew how Bill Cosby was. It was just a known yet unspoken thing.
What was known? He was a predator to young men? Interesting.
@@johnstoner666 yeah something like that. Just that he liked younger guys, even though he was married and had a wife.
I can't imagine Dave Matthews Band without Boyd
Well... you have too. They are better than ever.
Just got back from their show…
While I agree the band members have all improved as musicians, I just don’t feel like the music has ever been the same without Boyd(and Leroi for that matter). The violin was such an important part of their sound. I would give anything to get to see the original 5 again… the sound was so unique. Ever since Tim and the others have joined they sound like a different band(still incredible and my #1). I miss the more mellow/acoustic vibe of old.
Now, all that being said, dmb has been my favorite band since around 95… and they always will be
I was able to attend both shows in Chicago. I miss Boyd’s touch but Buddy Strong is a great addition. I think everyone has filled that gap. Tim, Rashawn and Jeff have filled that been a huge part of that. I’m excited for the next phase of the band.
Same here Bob... Can't wait to see what they do next!
Anthony OnAir It going to be exciting. New album, new member and added creativity. We all know the studio albums are just an outline for the future songs. We’ve already seen a lot of great improv on these news songs and over the next 12 months we’ll see what these songs really are. Plus a refresher of the older songs.
Its so true, the albums are just a starting point for each songs evolution...
Yes! I was at SPAC both nights and I have to say with their energy and the fun they were having on stage I really wasn't missing Boyd at all. Of course I'm not happy he's gone but the band certainly isn't lacking!
I miss Boyd too, he just added a fantastic sound, but they've sounded AMAZING this summer! Saw them in Detroit and have been listening live in Fridays. It's been wonderful!
Its not fair to not replace a violinist in your band...someone deserves that job
Fair? They don’t “owe” us a violinist. A band is only great when they’re able to continually reshape themselves and keep current. And DMB does that and does it great! And replacing Boyd immediately would never have been a good idea. It’s like when a band replaces its lead singer immediately after the old one leaves. The difference is too obvious. You have to give it time in between. You have to create that new sound. Then you can add a new lead singer, or in this case, a new violinist. But doing it immediately only would’ve drawn more attention to an already ugly situation. And now they’ve had buddy Strong for a few years and he fits in like he’s always been there.
I don't think any of what Dave said needed "breaking down", dude
GET ON WITH IT!!!
I have been a Dave fan since the beginning and everyone got there own opition but boyd has been there from the beginning and boyd absolutely was a big part and if it didnt pan out so be it but i would have tried maybe bringing the piano/organ before boyd stopped but its dave man and he apparently wants to keep writing new and jamming so be it new or old dave rocks guess seeing dave and boyd up there going crazy on stage are now memories either way ill be in the lawn
I love this band with every ounce of my soul............ and i will be a fan until the end. but i cant wrap my head around the boyd thing. but why did they wait until tour tickets went on sale before the boyd issue ????
Starting a conflict by doing side projects? Dave put out a solo album and tours with Tim on the side, and Stefan has his own side gig.
The band just isn’t the same now. Never replaced the violin and tim and the horns are too loud now
Full Dave interview, without the commentary, at www.npr.org/sections/world-cafe/2018/07/17/629471390/change-is-never-easy-dave-matthews-past-motivates-his-present
Interview is NPR's World Cafe.
Scott Ayers without commentary? It’s 45 mins of info that most novice dave fans already know. I would know I went through all of it. Trust me I’m saving people time
It's OK to miss Boyd and still enjoy the band. It's OK to say the songs are not the same without him and still enjoy the music. When he was jamming at the shows he was the greatest thing, ever. Now he's suddenly "less than" and "not important" ? Y'all sound crazy with these fairweather-ass comments.
Can you elaborate?
Dave said he is extremely loyal. Loyal enough to Boyd and his drag on the band that they collectively decided to not tour for 2 years. Had they booted him or allowed him to go and deal with his own stuff I bet they wouldn’t have taken those 2 years.
Romanellochw I bet they would have because Daves a lying pos. Dave would never of made it without Boyd.
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How do you figure that? Is Boyd the only good violin player around? Is he the songwriter? Nope.
Bro, you milked the shit out of this video…..and putting those ads EXACTLY where Dave is speaking on Boyd’s influence. Lol, not cool my man
Meh, I got to say it was the electric violin that set them apart. It all sounds very Coldplay-ish... "brought to you by Pepsi"
Still a fan, but missing Boyd, and the late great LeRoi.
Either way "reinvigorated" is just a big word for worse. DMB still great. Seen them 50 times, BUT this years shows ARE NOT NEAR AS GOOD and it is SPECIFICALLY because the violin is missing. Just the truth.
You should outline what you want to say, be more concise and get these videos down to 5 minutes or less.
I just saw him in Florida last weekend. He really needs a violinist. I wish it could be Boyd but i get it (kind of)
Happy Belated Birthday to your daughter Anthony...must say that the band has a new energy about them...and...I LOVE IT!! #dMbfamily
Nice to come across another Rhett Miller fan.
Honestly how much longer do you think DMB will be touring ???
I don’t know
There is no way they didn’t know Boyd was doing the stuff he was doing.
Do we need 5 min of this guy talking? WOW!
Come Tomorrow = Great album! So many great songs!
Funny. Dave Matthews looks so different now. Has to be him because the title says “Dave Matthews finally speaks out”
I never saw DMB back during their come-up, but liked what they had to offer. I did end up seeing them 2 nights at deer creek. I personally really liked what the band is now. More r and b and jazz and less fiddle tunes. That's just subjective opinion.
Boyd needed time to step away to start his new boy band!
With all that coke DM would do , how could he make any good decisions?
Dave wanted more out of Boyd. Boyd could have been creative and picked up another instrument or found some other way to contribute in addition to his violin work. That's what he's saying. I bet Boyd could pluck a banjo but he never did, did he?
or Boyd could of just kept being a professional. In more ways than one. All the sexual allegations aside, when i hear this it reminds me of behavior that's indicative of all bands big or small. Everyone needs to be on the same page and at some point in time sooner or later, one band member at least, stops caring or has lost his love and "focus". it's more common than not. it's actually an abnormality for a group to get along and stay together for a year ...there's a Metallica documentary that really explains this or shows this. Then you add in all the outside behavior...too much
Hbd to your girl
Thanks Memme!!
This guy is soooooooo annoying. Just play the interview. We dont love the sound of your voice as much as you do.
Dave, stop the cap. It wasn’t the sound of Boyd, it was the allegations and we all know it
The name of the band is THE DAVE MATTHEWS band. The end.
it's the Dave's ego band....he used to be a down to earth guy. he lost it somewhere among-st the 400 million dollars he worth. money changes everyone!!
the band is actually a business and the owners are Dave, Stefon, Carter and it was LeRoi before he died. Not sure if Boyd was ever an official partner in DMB.
I wanted to hear Dave not this guy😭
I’m just now hearing some sort of “explanation” from Dave’s words, but I gotta hold my brother Dave accountable on my personal opinion that Dave didn’t give his full truth and feelings on this topic...It actually makes me wonder if Dave is in self denial of maybe having some knowledge of possible “too much weirdness” from Boyd over the years...(if he believes the allocations made about Boyd). Maybe he holds some internal shame for not addressing the elephant in the room before it got to the level of what I’ll call a “#me too movement episode? But, I feel somewhat disappointed that Dave would have to say “we need more out of you” while in the studio...And I really don’t know myself, how Boyd was in the studio...maybe he was difficult to work with...I’ve been in the studio with a good friend of mine and we had a few artistic clashes and got into some verbal aggressions over little things or where we feel we wanna take a song, so I feel that. But, that Dave needed to ask more of Boyd in the studio, I’m struggling to believe that Boyd wasn’t giving his whole soul and passion into what he was playing....like, Devil’s advocate...has Dave not seen where Boyd takes the violin when they play live and when he goes on a solo jam with Boyd? So, I just question the integrity of that statement. If he plays his soul on stage, Live, I would think he would bring the same energy in the studio. These are just my thoughts.
Dude, I totally agree with you. 1. Dave knew for years about Boyd's sexual preference and behavior. 2. I find it hard to believe that Boyd wasn't putting a 100% into his playing. 3. It came down to, Dave didn't want Boyd's allegations "Tarnishing" the DMB name. Had nothing to do with his dedication to the band.
Skip to 3.27 ...your welcome
The music suffered a bit though. That violin was priceless in the early days. They should have got a different violin player. It’s not the same DMB as it was.
I was at Opening Night of this years Tour in The Woodlands, it was concert #25 for me, the show was subdued some. Maybe it was me, since the formal separation had been announce the day prior. Contrast that to the live Sirius show they played just a few weeks ago from NC and the difference was marked. Seems they have embraced the direction, and I think, putting out some fantastic music. Miss Boyd, his sound and his big smile on stage, but the band does seem re-invigorated now.
That violin solo in the beginning of Drunken Soldier still gives me chills. I had no idea BT wasn't cutting it musically for the band, but I guess 20/20 being what it is all kind of makes sense now. That fucking solo tho! Chills man, chills!
Tim Phillips gosh, yes. I've heard it live.
I love DMB, and have been to dozens of shows, but let's face it- it's bathroom break time when they start playing anything past BTCS. They have a ton of lemons, but they also have plenty of great music as well. They're like Eddie Murphy.
alex vwenz Agreed. Here's a better analogy than Eddie Murphy- they're like Grateful Dead, which happens to be my favorite band. A ton of shit studio albums, a handful of good ones. A legacy based on great shows with a diehard fanbase.
Damn man.....people don’t want to hear u talk forever.......just play Dave and hush!
I was at the Jones Beach show and they were tight as hell. Dave's voice is starting to show its age, but the band hit this groove and took off. Amazing as always.
Dave's singing voice is totally not the same. Years of none stop touring, I guess.
Dexter Morgan His technique is absolute shit. He doesn't support his sound at all. It's all throat. If he had went out and got a vocal coach 10 years ago, he wouldn't have the trouble he has now.
[I have a degree in music]
He has one already and has had one for a long time
Sure does and has.
Family
DMB sounds weird without that Chester molelester violin energy.
I thought it was cause of a sexual harassment claim against boyd Tinsley?
There is an accusation against Boyd right now, yes... Thanks for the comment D Roc! Make sure you subscribe for more!
it's all BS!!! Dave trying to play the lies he's always played...never thought i'd dislike the guy!
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How do you figure he is lying??
Saw the band a few months ago. They don't really sound as good without Boyd. Dave seems disloyal in this interview too. He throws Boyd under the bus. He pretends it wasn't just the sexual assault allegations that led to Boyd leaving.
The slightly out of key (flat) droning violin lines must have started to wear on Dave. He needed a fresh perspective. You can tell he just got tired of the violin. It worked great at first; he wrote 3-4 albums that used it to their advantage (quite brilliantly).
But eventually it became a hindrance after having to always come up with a new violin part for every song. Obviously youre gonna run out of fresh ideas. it's more limited in it's sonic possibilities (no chords, relatively limited range, very little tonal variation).
All of those factors, plus the fact that Boyd had his personal issues and wasn't always part of the team points to why Dave feels this way.
Even the sax, which started out as somewhat of a gimmick and contributed to DMBs unique sound, has evolved into a horn section, allowing them more possibilities. You can tell Dave is all about keeping it fresh and avoiding staleness. So you can totally see how he kinda gave up on the violin, especially with a violinist who gave up on practicing and really evolving.
Never really thought much about the limitations of the instrument but you make a good point Kevin!
No, that's not right. They have to replace the violin. Without it a lot of their best songs aren't the same. And a muffled trumpet does not a fiddle make.
George B Toole Jr. There are some amazingly talented violin players out there that would make Boyd look like an amature. I've always wondered how they would sound with a virtuoso on the violin. Maybe some cute female!
... like Lucia Micarelli.
As a violinist myself, I always felt Boyd could have done so much more on the instrument. He could have kept it fresh. He could have played chords or a more complicated improv just like LeRoi on the sax. But he never evolved into those skills. The best thing Boyd ever contributed was the hook for American Baby, which remains one of my favorite songs. I think Boyd raised the profile of violinists in the rock/alternative world which helped all of us in the industry. His Zeta violin is on display at the new Smithsonian Museum of African American History. But otherwise, I think it was time for him to go. Buddy is an amazing edition and I'm excited to see where the band is going to evolve next.
I want to hear about the Chicago Bus shitting incident that coated tourists in Dave matthew turds