Big sounds from small packages: Mytek Liberty DAC & Brooklyn AMP
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Mytek Liberty DAC SPECIFICATIONS :
CONVERSION: up to 384k, 32bit PCM, native DSD
up to DSD256, DXD, 127dB Dynamic Range
MQA HI-RES DECODER:
built in certified hardware
DIGITAL INPUTS:
USB2 Class2 OSX, Linux driverless,
all formats, AES/EBU PCM up to 192k, up to DSD64 DOP, 2x S/PDIF PCM up to 192k, up to DSD64 DOP, Toslink/ADAT 2x S/PDIF PCM up to 192k, up to DSD64 DOP
ANALOG OUTPUTS:
1 pair of unbalanced RCA, 1 pair of balance TRS, TRS To XLR Metropolis Cable can be added as option
HEADPHONE AMPLIFIER:
Reference High Current, High transient Headphone Amp, 300mA, 3 Watts, single unbalanced headphone jack, designed to drive hard to drive headphones, 0.1 Ohm impedance
CLOCK GENERATOR:
Low noise with 10ps of jitter
FIRMWARE:
Upgradable via USB via Mytek Control panel
OPTIONAL DC/BATTERY POWER INPUT:
12VDC
DIMENSIONS:
WxDxH= 5.5x8.5x1.74 inches=140x216x44mm
WEIGHT:3lbs, 1.5kg
WARRANTY: 2 years
Mytek Brooklyn AMP SPECIFICATIONS :
POWER RATINGS AT 1% THD:
at 16 Ohm - dual mono 2 x 130 W
at 8 Ohm - dual mono 2 x 250 W
at 4 Ohm - dual mono 2 x 300 W
at 2 Ohm - dual mono 2 x 400 W
Peak - dual mono 2 x 1200 W
DC POWER ON TRIGGER: 12VDC minijack
WORLDWIDE POWER SUPPLY: 100-240VAC 50/60 Hz
DIMENSIONS: WxDxH=8.5x9.5x1.74 inches =216x241x44mm
WEIGHT: 6lbs, 3kg
WARRANTY: 2 years
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I look forward to the interviews. Doing a nice job Steve.
Great complete review! One of your best even though I'm not interested in class D amps it had music examples and comparisons to other products within the same company and to conpetitors. You even reviewed the headphone section of the dac! Loved it. Thank you Steve!
Your videos are amazing. Thank you very much for all the work you do.
Ditto
Club Soda I agree I must say that I do watch a few other UA-cam or’s as well but for some reason I always take his advice or has never let me down the wrong path I believe that he is as honest as anybody could be when you comes to his information
Wow... nice combo... I'm not 100% sold on the amp but Mytek DACs seriously rock.
Thank you for the different music recommendations.
what i really like is the form factor of Mytek products and dsd support. low heat output from a class D is also important for me.
Hello Steve I love your interviews with these legendary people and I swear to you you are getting handsomer every day keep up the great work you Legend a big fan Steve Costello
Thanks!!
I won't be buying either of these products but I thought your review was outstanding.
I'm listening to this on my new TIN HIFI earbuds that you recommended. They are everything you said they were. $54 shipped. 👍
blipco5 Did you get the T2 or the T2-PRO?
DBruh ...I got the T2- PRO
Good review Steve:-)
Good description of sound quality differences.
If you like Daniel Lanois, check out his Black Dub project.
2 ohm stable: nice.
But no Maggies?
Mytek makes good stuff. Just got their Brooklyn Bridge and it’s brilliant for the price. Sounds clear and lush. Has everything you need. Just add an amp like the Brooklyn Amp. Will be a nice pairing for a ‘lifestyle’ set up that’s gonna give very good sound.
How did you get the Brooklyn Bridge into your home?
Progressive Guy ... I got David Copperfield to assist me. Was one brick at a time. 😬
@@hushpuppykl Good show,ole chap!
Dear Steve Guttenburg, Thank you for this review. After seeing your review about the Mytek Liberty DAC. Four days of reading reviews but mainly trusting you I ordered it. First it arrived faster than some deliveries I get from Asia as I live in Thailand. I got it on the 14th. I could not find my 1/4" adapter for the head phone and this morning I went out and purchased one. The DAC is incredible truly. On analogue to digital recordings it sounds excellent but digital recordings it is incredible. Classical and rock are the only music I have listened to so far but I am more than happy even though I did not want to spend so much... Still it is worth every penny to my ears. Thank you so much. I have been looking for a DAC for a long time and in Thailand the good ones are hard to find.
i live in Chiang Mai, where can i buy the Liberty? high end audio sucks up here
@@xstensl8823 You can buy it off of amazon or direct.
@@alecgrolimond1678 did they kill you with the import duties? also i never use DHL or FedEx. i have things sent here USPS international priority mail. thanks.
@@xstensl8823 If I remeber correctly I had to pay about 30% more that the price but that included taxes shipping and insurance. Not certain of the delivery company it could have been UPS.
I also have AudezeLCD II headphones. I converted all my CD's to FLAC which great. I cannot tell the difference from the original format and it gives me fredom.
What about the PS Audio s300? I know that you reviewed it a while back, and I bought it with the Gain Cell dac.
LOL. $2K. Class D was designed to be an economical solution for amplifiers. It’s intriguing how high end equipment are taking advantage of the situation.
Especially those with switching power supplies. The expensive class D integrated units usually have a toroidal power supply for the preamp section.
Amir Jubran Toroidal power supplies are treated like gold in the audiophile world. There are lots of types and quality levels. However as a whole, they aren’t that expensive.
I don’t hate Class D amps. Heck I even think Class T amps are pretty cool. I just get annoyed when companies are charging thousands for a topology that is outright cheap to produce.
Club Soda yeah you caught me. More like LAA = laughing at audiophiles
I really wish Mytek didn’t use Sabre dacs and used something warmer
The only laughable thing is how afraid audiophiles are of change: if you'd rather pretend we're still in the 80's or 90's, go ahead, but these days there are class D amps that will run circles around any class A amplifier, if you want fidelity and technical accuracy - and yes, they're often economical too, what a tragedy, right?
Glad to see you review some Class D products. We all know they are not your favourite so, to see you give a favourable review of one is really something! It's odd to me how Class D has this reputation of being "affordable" (and a lot of Class D products are) yet, I would not classify Mytek (or Bel Canto) as such.
I think that has to do with the implemention. Yes, they can be made cheaply. However, I don't think they can be made really well and remain at the cheaper end of the market.
Happy to stand corrected by those more in the know than me. 😃
@@nostro1001 Indeed. I wonder what the price of the amp would be if it were built using traditional Class AB technology. $4000, maybe $5000?
Google Images Behringer NX3000 Class D for example. Look at the state of the art printed circuit boards and parts quality. $300.
High end home audio companies are trying to make a quick buck off of non-technical types with these huge margin D amps. As an EE with 42 years of experience I have to laugh. Lots of scamming going on right now in the high end. Most audiophiles don't have a clue.
Steve @ 7:44 you break down what your definition of “hi-Rez “ strength can be..ect ect.. I think I tend to agree because I am on a search for a “low noise floor” lately . So by that logic I’m guessing MQA is going to be what could be considered one of the better standards? I understand this might be too detailed but for us to be able to communicate effectively about what these algorithms are they must have some sort of name for the type... I hope that makes sense
Try the Crown XLS1502; one week break-in required.
"The price is..." and goes to the next video. I'm too poor that for stuff. I make do with two Adcom 555's. pretty much the same specs but I paid $700 for the pair.
Brooklyn products reviewed by a Brooklynite. I am surprised you were moved by the Brooklyn combo.
Yes I was intrigued at what he should say about the class D amp..
Because we all know he do not love class D. But of some reason NOW it is "OK" with class D..
Manny say that class D is on its way!
How did Brooklyn Amp compared to Schiit Ragnarok 2/Aegir? Very different amps, which makes me wonder. Thanks for great review.
Thanks
Do you recommend adding the Mytek Liberty to improve over the DAC in my Rotel RA1592 integrated amplifier?
Steve quick question: a few months back you swooned a bit over the chinese DAC (Denafrips? I think) which was $700 usf. I believe Darko also loved the same brand's top model. I realize that that model wasn't also a pre-amp, but pound-for-pound as a dac which would you prefer? The denafrips or the liberty?
Jeff Glickman Great question! Steve, Denafrips Ares or Mytek Liberty? Help a fellow brooklynite out!
Saga S if you need a remote control preamp - great.
Steve, how the audio quality of the Liberty DAC compares to the PS Audio stellar DAC/preamp? Thanks
But Steve, I was informed that the Liberty can not be used as a preamp. Does the Brooklyn amp make special concessions to make it work?
I was intrigued by your description of the Amber Rubarth session. So, I purchased it in 24bit/192KHz format. When I listen to it with LS50's and a Denon AVR as the amp - the recording sounds very good. But not as you described. I don't get a sense of space. However, when I listen to it with my Focal Clear headphones connected to A&K Kann - Wow! With these I see what you're referring to. The cello on "Top Grass" is simply amazing. The recording engineer did a fantastic job in that church.
I wish you had mentioned your listening experience with the LS50's. Is it my room or simple AVR amp that's falling short?
Would I benefit from buying the Brooklyn amp and connecting to my current mid-spec Cambridge, or spend the same money on an upgraded integrated amp (Hegel Röst is currently in mind!)?
Definitely not. The Cambridge gear will destroy the Brooklyn amp sonically.
The highly regarded, true high end build quality, class D, 1000wpc, DSP, loaded, gorgeous, full size Yamaha PX10 Power Amp is $799.
Is the Brooklyn amp actually worth it? I am actually planning to get it this Black Friday.
this DAC could hardly beat my 7 year old NAD D1050, i think i will have to upgrade to a Bridge before i can achieve a clear upgrade in SQ?
Hi I love your reviews and philosophy. Can you review some Swedish Xtz? They are very good performance especially their speakers, and also many of their gear. They are maybe comparable with Emotiva. Plus better on theyr big speakers, check them out. Best wishes.
Dag
When Steve lifted the amp up with one hand I knew it was class D. I like my amps with BIG transformers. LOL.
what do you think about the output of Liberty headphones? I think it's terrible. It doesn't cost even 100 euros ...
The chosen Lanois recordings are ridiculously bass heavy, it's manipulated information
No photos of the products?
not a big fan of class d amps. Steve try listen to Devialet amps, they are absolutely fantastic
how would the Liberty compare with the Bitfrost?
@Steve are you going to RMAF?
No
you have to review Chord hugo 2 or tt2
for small rooms and low power requirements, I'd be curious how this amp compares to the Schiit Aegir. Does the Schiit sound worse?
I'm pretty sure the Aegir would sound a lot better, but it's a 20 watt amp, the Brooklyn is 250 watts per channel.
Or a Schiit Vidar perhaps?
So in short: The Brooklyn amp falls flat and is one of the amps that is NOT that good!?
Of course the Pass Labs Class A amp’s gonna sound better than the Class D Brooklyn amp. I’m sure it was much better. lol Just joking with ya, Steve! Another great vid / review. Thanks very much. You da man!
Dan Brown dac still sounds amazing to me😊 i got a Elite pioneer Sacd player it cost me 50 used to be 1200 in the 90s.
I tend to buy old speakers from Kef q series. I dont think you need to spend so much as the sl50 cost when you can get q15 for 60 dollars.
How come no comparison for Liberty vs the Denafrips Ares? Similar price
drwavedawg Not even Steve can be in all places at once.
Maybe because Ares is a better DAC for less money but saying that would have ruined this review for Mytek ;)
Not only Steve but at least one other reviewer mentioned that Ares can beat some DACs up to a $2000 price point.
dennem well the Ares has no MQA or volume control but it would be nice to be informed of the difference
drwavedawg IMO MQA is overrated, standard hi-res sounds just fine if not better.
Sure, it would be great to know the differences in sound between two DACs. Anyway, I believe my guess is right. In his review of Ares Steve was extremely enthusiastic about its sound, the Ares even beat his previous favorite Border Patrol, which is $1200 DAC. Have you ever seen an audio review where a reviewer compares the product to a cheaper competitor and recommends to buy that instead?
Club Soda Definitely. I’m planning to get the Ares for myself, but since I can’t audition it before purchasing, I’m prepared to sell it if it does not meet expectations.
I wonder how these perform against an RME ADI-2 DAC. Anyone one try these out?
Thems fighting words! and throw in a Pro-Ject Pre Box S2 digital on the lower end. I use that and for 399 it's a win
@@pennfootball71 I read those have QC issues. They do look cool though.
let's throw in the Benchmark DAC3 too
Most seem to favour the RME... But whether that's just hype, I don't know.
How about an all Brooklyn system? Mytek Brooklyn Amp & Liberty DAC. Ohm Speakers, and Grado Headphones and Cartridge. We need a source, so let’s go over the bridge to Jersey and get a VPI turntable.
Club Soda Thanks for the assist!
I’ve got a question for viewers: once you can afford a $2500 amp is another chunk of change for a $5000 amp a big deal?
Not a 100% sure I get the question; I'm thinking you're referring to the outlay of money, rather than the 'upgrade' itself.
If that's the case, I guess it's like anything one chooses to spend their savings on. It's a personal choice....peeps buy crazy expensive cars, yet a cheaper car will still get you from A to B and likely at the same time if you're following speed limits.
I don't really concern myself with what others decide to buy or not buy. That's why we are all individuals.
Personally, I don't view a $5000 amp as over the top or overkill. Times that by 10 and I'd definitely not choose to spend that kinda money (if I had it) on an amp!!
Edit:
I think overall what I wanted to say was that music is very important in my life and being able to play it at a 'level' that gives me that satisfaction is what I deem most important from my audio gear!
nostro1001 I appreciate the comment.
I think you answered it!
So it has variable line level out to use as a preamp?
Yes, as I used the Liberty for some of my listening tests.
Ok Steve, the damn Schiit Sol has "FINALLY" arrived. I expect a thorough review "pronto!" (...or when you get a chance) 👽🖖"Na-nu"
Yes, it is! It came up for sale on their site 2 days ago. There’s a new channel called “Schiit Audio”, if ya weren't aware, and the first vid is the Sol set up.
ua-cam.com/video/cFGnT-Oh8Qw/v-deo.html
Have a good one, Frank! Btw, are you a Pixies fan? Na-nu to you too!
@@NickP333 Did you see them (pixies) on TV last night? Good stuff.
Steve, did you try it on your .7’s?
I don't have .7s anymore, but the AMP worked well on the Magnepan LRS.
Steve - there seems to be a substantial amount of low level (frequency) noise that comes through in your videos. It is not hum but more of uncooked rice rolling around in a pan, sort of sound. I don't hear it in other people's recordings. Maybe it would be worth listening to your own videos with a critical ear?
For a little more, one could buy the Benchmark THX amp that is the best ever made numbers wise.
Can you try a Nelson Pass Amp Camp Amp on some Forte's?
Do you have one? I've just ordered one. Love Pass designs.
@@lynnpoole7830 I'm waiting to order 1, maybe 2. Just need a good review.
You didn't hear a shul.
I have a hard time paying 2400 for such a small, lightweight product. You know it is marked up quite alot over its mfg costs. Snob appeal anyone?
It's small and lightweight as it's a class d amp. But yeah, I get it may not have the wow and impress your friends factor if that's what you're after.
Not sure it's my thing either given it would be roughly dbl the cost out here (I've not checked).
Edit = just a typo correction.
Bill of Materials for the Brooklyn amp cannot exceed $200. The front panel is the most expensive part.
Not so fast hoss, R&D much.
6lbs! Aren't amps supposed to be the heavier the better?
It’s a Class D, don’t need the huge transformers. 😬
Those are very expensive Amps, the Chinese stuff that drives stadiums with 3000 watts arms cost $1000. So much for American Manufacturing. The reason why Power Amp sounds better and richer than the other is all in the Pre Amp. A Power Amp is like a container, and if you fill it with junk it will produce junk, but fill it will fine music and it will produce just that. The other thing is, I won't listen to music on anything less than a 12" and I prefer 15". The larger the speaker, the better it will produce rich bass. A subwoofer bass plays differently from that of a large speaker. I listen to Reggae and R&B, and Classical. You should do a small vs large speaker-test one of these days, although you perhaps have since I'm a new subscriber; in which case it would be a review.
665th "like" - ALMOST! ;)
Trans Am like
You lost me at $2400 dollars.. hehe
no bueno muchacho
They want $2500 for a Class D amp? That's hilarious.
Steve! you seem to like everything, but $2500. for a class D amp? You've stooped to a new low.
Mytek is bright crappy sound. Bel Canto sounds balanced, musical. Honestly, I am losing more and more respect for this reviewer the more I listen to his reviews. Don't bother clicking, it's completely off base. Not sure what his angle is.