Mytek Liberty DAC Impressions - vs iDSD Micro Black Label
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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people obsessive too much on the DAC chip. The important area is how its implemented and the output stage IMHO.
I agree.
I had the Liberty Dac for 30 days, it’s MQA and excepts those new balanced rca cables. I agree with your preliminary statements for most headphones the Liberty will be all you need in a headphone amp. I used it with a pair of Sennheiser hd600 and 7 other pair of headphones and I liked the results. The treble is excellent with the separation between instruments.
If I’m not mistaken I believe you can buy an additional power supply. I used it in my full blown two channel set up and my headphones set up and found its performance to price ratio surprising to say the least. This thing is well ventilated and I kept it on and it never got hot. Liberty packed a ton of features in this small unit. I think Mytek did a great job and I think your final review will be favorable. I had a blast with it.
Can't wait for you to get your hands on the rme! Fantastic unit
The Liberty with the RS2e sounds incredible
Seriously though. At almost 2x the price, you'd better hope the Mytek sounds a whole lot better. It would've been a disaster otherwise imho.
Are you going to do a full review of the Liberty The HEADPHONE Show ?
Wait...only 900euro. Yes I said 'only 900euro"
Remove DSD and MQA, cut the price.
Where is the review? I want it. Is it powerfull enough for headphones? Or is it a dac with a headphone output slapped on it.
Will it replace my Rupert Neve RNHP?
Edit
It's volume is only digitally controlled. So only at 100% you get the full dynamics. Lowering the volume, you loose bits. So it's still only useable as a dac.😒
@Boboiboy@93
From my understanding it has 32 bits volume steps. By removing bits the volume gets lower. 16bits is 50% volume, but the loudest parts in a song are compressed. This is the easest way to lower volume.
You can experiment this yourself. Android phones only have 16 volume steps. If you have a portable amplifier, you set your phone at 4 or 8 and the amp at an appropriate level. Listen to a song. After that you set the phone to 16 and lower the level on the amp.
When you talk about the Mytek soundstage is about his depth?
I have the Mytek Brooklyn dac+. After 18 months of light use, the display stopper to work. Contacted the support service of Mytek they have never replied. My only chance to modify settings Is connecting It to my PC. Bad experience
I hope you do a full review soon as this is a unit that I am very interested in. I am looking for a nice complement to (mostly) Sennheiser headphones.
Which sennheisers?
@@TheHEADPHONEShow I currently own the 598, 58X, 6XX, and the 660s. Somehow I skipped the 600 but I am sure I will pick those up as well. I am also trying to figure out the next step up from there. Max Settings or Metal (I don't remember which one) suggested the Borealis. Of course, I am also interested in ZMF headphones. Thanks
I have a Schiit Lyr on the way to try. I have also been looking at the Questyle CMA400i and the Woo Audio WA6. I just haven't heard enough stuff to know what to get.
@@jamesbittle2138 dont make sense to own all 600 series family
@@nicktan4530 For you maybe. Don't kill my vibe bro!
@@jamesbittle2138 why do you need so many sennheiser?
I paused the video 5 seconds in and immediately checked the price. It's best to crush your hopes and dreams early on.
What would be best for Hifiman Arya Stealth magnet version. The Mytek liberty or the Burson Audio Conductor 3 Headphone Amplifier System?
Mytek liberty and Ifi neo idsd. Which is better ?
What mod is that on your Verité? Could you explain how to do it?
How about the Liberty DAC VS. Chord Hugo2?
Can you recommend a smooth dac and amp for my audeze lcd xc maple woods? Thank you so much!
The Soncoz LA-QXD1 at $200 seems to be the next best promising DAC. Designed by the same person who is behind the KTE Board.
Who is that person ?
Straight out of the dac, without the external amp, do you prefer sundara on ifi or mytek? Does it sound too analytical from the mytek for you?
Thank you very much, very nice video :)
Having listened to it for a bit now, it's not too far on the analytic side straight out of the headphone output. Sundara is fine but one word of caution, this isn't the best output for higher sensitivity headphones like the Elegia. The amp has too much power for that.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow What do you mean it has too much power? what problems can this cause? Which number in specifications should I be searching to find if an amp has too much power for a headphone? Thank you very very much :)
Is Liberty holographic ? Ambiance
Mytek liberty dac II and ifi neo idsd . Which is better ?
Interesting video. Would be curious to hear how the Liberty DAC performs as a standalone unit with IEMs. Does it hiss or now?
Yeah I wouldn't use it with sensitive IEMs. The amp is something like 3W, and so there's a bit of hiss there with sensitive stuff for sure. So far this has been a consistent experience with high current amps as well.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Oh ok, thanks for letting me know ! Will look somewhere else then :P Really hope iFi releases a "desktop" micro BL someday, would be great !
What's your take on R2R dacs? I don't think I've seen you talk about things like the Yggdrasil, Pavane, Denafrips Terminator, etc. (assuming you've heard them.)
I have heard the yggdrasil, I'm interested in them for sure
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Oh ok. I've heard the new & old Yggy side by side & the new one definitely improves on it. Fantastic value for the price as it trades blows with dacs twice its price (the two aforementioned) but it's also a different style of R2R. All of the R2R dacs I've heard beside it are NOS so some say they are dark & lack slam relative to delta sigma but I think it's overstated a bit. I had hoped Drop's Airist R2R dac would make R2R more popular but unfortunately at least from media coverage the pendulum swung in the opposite direction. Not a lot of recent coverage on these dacs so hopefully Headphones.com gets some through there at some point.
Any upcoming review on the blessing 2?
Mytek liberty dac II and ifi neo idsd . Which is better ?
I think Mytek Liberty 2 vs. Gustard A26 is the real quiestion
I wonder how the JDS Element II would stack up against these. It's cheaper than both but some people have said it's on par with more expensive DAC/amps.
DMS uses it as his daily driver.
Apparently the Liberty DAC will sound beter with a big DC adapter like the Sbooster, which is like 400euro/dollar.
Soooooo. Do you have a DC adapter?😅😅
How's iDSD micro BL compared to FiiO M15?
Will that iFi iDSD Micro Black Label ever be available again? or have I missed this boat :(
Actually the updated and better version is out now, it's known as the iFi Micro idsd Signature. I can defitnely recommend that (using with Arya and HD660s)
Hello will you test the special power supply made for to ?
Can this be better than mdac plus ?
Where do you announce the winner of the Aeon 2 closed?
I think the person will be notified on the mailing list. Although that might be a good idea for a video haha.
Hello, would you recommend Mytek Liberty DAC as a pairing for my HD800s? I Tried that DAC /AMP today and I liked it, but it costs 750 euros right now on Sale. Do you think its a good buy?
Depends on the kind of sound you want. I'd almost prefer an AKM-based DAC for that headphone - unless you want the analytic sound of the Liberty.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Hey, I really like brighter, accurate and spacious sound. HD800s are perfect for that so now I want a good source to improve even more these qualities.
@@omaior20 what you end getting? I have the same questions that you ask. Im interested also in the gustard A26
Can you clarify which digital filter you used for the Micro iDSD Black label? Some of the nuances you mentioned between units may actually be (partially) attributable to the selected filter...
How do you think the idsd would do paired with the Focal Elex?
Micro idsd black label? I mean yeah they will all drive it just fine. The elex doesn't require much power. The only thing I'd avoid is some of those crazy high current solid state amps that are meant more for planars and maybe stick to AKM or Burr brown DACs, unless you find an ESS one without the intermodulation distortion hump.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow awesome, thank you! I had heard that the elex can get a little aggressively detailed, so I thought the burr brown might make a great pairing based on all this. Thank you!
Does it sounds better than the pendent when paired with verite ?
No but the Pendant is just an amp. You'd need a DAC for that as well.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Yes of course but you paired Mytek Liberty DAC to your solid state Cayin. So does it sounds better when paired with the pendent ? Also am not sure which dac you paired with the pendent either way.
@@nicktan4530 pro iDSD with the pendant. Yeah pendant with the verite is easily better.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Are you going to get the pendent ? Would like you to review the Glen OTL, many do in fact !
New to this, any recommendations on where to get high-quality audio files
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Do you plan to review the new deva headphones from hifiman?
Yes, if I can get one in. I heard a prototype at CanJam and wasn't a huge fan of the tuning, but maybe they've changed it since then.
The HEADPHONE Show okay I was just curious. I didn’t figure it would be all that great due to the price but would love to see it’s technical capabilities
What?
It's a mediocre performing dac/amp for the price. The RME ADI-2 is better in every way, and vastly more feature-filled for the price class. Otherwise you can get better performance for less.
Rme is crap for me, had it next to my dac+ only took few seconds to spot the difference and was returned immediately
@@emmanuelpalmer8108 A Cambridge DACMagic + ? I don't know what a 'dac+' is otherwise.
@@emmanuelpalmer8108 Wait, hifiberry DAC+ ?
Release the Kraken He’s obviously referring to the Mytek DAC +
one word - overpriced
The micro bl dac/amp is mildly v shaped in my experience.
I don't think they actually change the FR - at least not from measuring headphones on them. But the Liberty is analytic enough for me to change my EQ profile to have less treble energy for both the Verite and Elegia. Liberty DAC is also generally not a good pairing with the Elegia because it's too sensitive.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow In my experience tonality changes in elections is not that drastic, think of it like a glare, and the BL is glaring at the mid bass and lower treble. It's super easy to hear that with a super neutral system (e.g. THX and AKM stuff).
@@NiSHAN256 Yeah glare is perhaps a better word to describe it than 'v shaped'. You notice certain things in different parts of the FR, even though it's not necessarily elevated there.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow this explains the difference I've heard between ess and akm perfectly.
I know I'm going to be criticized for this but I believe that all these crazy prices hi-fi products are at the risks to fall during and after the COVID. Hopefully we'll live in a more reasonable less self masturbatory world tomorrow.
I don't consider either of these as crazy high prices. You can easily buy a mid level amp for $500 and a mid level DAC for the same. This is just both, and it performs quite well.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow I would love to hear your thoughts after blind testing these higher end products against clean ~$200 stacks. Amps like Atom or Heresy and DACs like Khadas or D10 measure very well.
@@bepresent4235 Yeah I have done some in the past. In general I don't think there's a huge difference going from the less expensive stuff to the more expensive stuff unless you already have really high end headphones. And by high end I mean like nanoscale planars or something like a Utopia or Verite. There's still a difference with mid-level headphones, but the degree to which you notice it (or are able to successfully identify which is which in a blind test) will depend on the rest of the system. To be sure, the headphone matters the most. But at this point we're trying to think of what's the optimal system for a given headphone and figuring out what the optimal pairing is. To give an example, my Cayin IHA-6 powers my Verite just fine, but it's far from the ideal amplifier for it. Not because it can't power it, but because a high end tube amp would do better for that headphone. So you could go with a Magni 3+ or Heresy, power most headphones just fine, but it also would be far from the ideal system. It's the difference between 90% and 100%.
@@bepresent4235 Also, people need to stop making purchase decisions based off of ASR. The only thing that stuff can tell you is if something is broken. People may think that reading up on all the source gear measurements gets them deeper into the hobby or gives them an inside scoop, but when you actually get to experience all this stuff it's so obvious that there's so much more to the story than what you see there.
@@TheHEADPHONEShow does the dac/amp price : performance ratio scale the same as headphones? Or should we expect even smaller increments in sound by investing in dac/amps?