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  • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
    @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +5

    Beware of Audiophiliac scammers!!! Don’t fall for it!!

    • @bubbleone6526
      @bubbleone6526 2 роки тому

      I didn’t head your warning as I didn’t see it. I was scammed out of $440.14 dollars by a fake Steve Guttenberg on a Telegram app. They guy sounded legit but he just kept pushing that I won this amp with 2 stickers. I should have known right off the bat but I’ve never won anything in my life before. I became a patron sub messaged you what happened but so far you haven’t responded either. I should have known if you were doing a giveaway it would be on patron. So here I sit with a case of Covid-19 an feeling the fool. You probably won’t answer this either I guess I’ll give up on honest people because there are none.

    • @peterborelli3877
      @peterborelli3877 Рік тому +1

      How can we know who they are?

  • @michaelnissen3556
    @michaelnissen3556 2 роки тому +3

    I really enjoy your reviews and audio ideas but I enjoy your music recommendations even more. Thanks!

  • @rustygates3367
    @rustygates3367 Рік тому +3

    I just bought this amp after a couple of months of consideration; ended up doing a blind buy. I can tell you the AMP-23R has god-like authority over headphones and the spec sheet power ratings are drastically understated. Someone needs to do a power measurement on an APx555 to see what this thing can really push because it seems to be able to drive power hungry speakers with surprising ease. Clarity is amazing; since the amplifier gain stage is operating entirely in current mode, it seems to have an immense bandwidth, hence its speed i.e. ability to follow, highlight and delineate between every nuance in the input signal, with authority, is the best I've heard bar none, and I've heard quite a lot of amps.

  • @orrman5
    @orrman5 2 роки тому +13

    I have this amp as the center of my music system, mainly driving headphones like the Susvara and some ZMFs but I'm definitely plugging it to speakers soon. I just auditioned the Devore Fidelity o/Baby and I think these will pair beautifully together

  • @missing1102
    @missing1102 2 роки тому +9

    Wow I love this. I am not big on audio like this but this is art.

  • @100kkosmo
    @100kkosmo 2 роки тому +17

    Not sure why all of you are so hung up on the price of this amplifier? If the price or the size, or the specs don’t work, don’t buy it!Steve didn’t make this video to sell you something. He’s taking his viewers on a musical journey. So relax, and enjoy the ride!

  • @iceshow4582
    @iceshow4582 2 роки тому +19

    I've had my Enleum 23R since mid December driving my Cornwall IVs. I love the sound of this amp. My system consists of an Aurender W20SE server/streamer, Holo May KTE DAC, Rega P10 turntable and Apheta 3 MC cartridge , Luxman EQ-500 phono stage and a Equi=Tech 2RQ power conditioner. Other amps that I've tried include an Audio By Van Alstine 600R (300 w/ch hybrid amp), McIntosh MC275 VI, Rogue Stereo 100 with Dark upgrades, and a Chinese 300B amp that's popular on Amazon. I'll take the Enleum over my own AVA 600R that is rated for 12 times the power of the 23R. The McIntosh MC275 v6 is a legendary amp (I used to own the v5) that cost about the same as the Enleum but the 23R makes it sound muddy and slow. The same goes for the Rogue and the 300B amp. The little nine pound 23R kicked the ass of 2 65lbs tube amps and my own 40lbs hybrid amp. I just laugh at people that say they want something more substantial. Oh, Steve is right about the 23R being a great headphone amp. I use it to drive my Susvara, Abyss 1266TC, Focal Utopia, and ZMF Verite. I haven't heard a headphone amp that I like better than the 23R and I've owned quite a few high end headphone amps.

    • @asplmn
      @asplmn 2 роки тому

      I used my VFET (SIT-3 inspired) amp to drive my ZMF VC and Atrium. Holy f@ck, it sounds amazing. High-end receivers/amps are amazing for headphones

    • @labalo5
      @labalo5 2 роки тому

      Yep. The sound from these SS amps have that SET characteristic. And it’s incredibly fluid, fast and lights up stage. Many forum favorites are merry go round amps or people who invest on the resale that they continue going around the block.

    • @BastianUllr
      @BastianUllr 2 роки тому +2

      But it’s not AN Kondo, it’s not Boulder, it’s not Karan, it’s not Jeff Rowland… and klipsch and high end is like, really? Let’s say it is, but then, how are you assessing this? By how accurate or how much you like it? Or is it just how much you paid for it, or how proud you feel. So far I only see names and names, so I am placing more names and more names and specially bigger names.
      So, didn’t you know what high end was based on what you commented as a reply to me? How have you found that you know what high end sound was when in many books Macintosh and Klipsch has no business in the high end.
      And I’m just teasing because AN Kondo sounds vastly different to Karan and vastly different to Jeff and vastly different to Nagra and… so, yeah… glad your are enjoying your sound. I bet it sounds fantastic. I bet you can enjoy it even if you come off your high horse.

  • @TheAgeOfAnalog
    @TheAgeOfAnalog 2 роки тому +1

    Mad Love is a killer record! I have several original pressings, including a white label promo, but also recently bought a pink vinyl reissue from Friday Music and it's wonderful.

  • @planetag310
    @planetag310 2 роки тому

    Another day, another cool shirt.

  • @stephenhill2301
    @stephenhill2301 2 роки тому

    The NOB fill is very satisfying 🤣

  • @inkedaudiophile7546
    @inkedaudiophile7546 2 роки тому +6

    Thanks for sharing my system Steve!

    • @jeremyr722
      @jeremyr722 2 роки тому

      I absolutely adore those Tannoys! 🤤 I really hope to hear some one day. If they aren’t too bright, I could see myself upgrading to a pair at some point

    • @inkedaudiophile7546
      @inkedaudiophile7546 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeremyr722 Thanks! The overall presentation is on the warm side of neutral. There is a bit of brightness but paired with my Sansui (mellow), I have something pleasing to my ear.

    • @jeremyr722
      @jeremyr722 2 роки тому

      @Inked Audiophile in that case I bet they’d be okay with my current amp, a Cambridge AXR100

  • @Foxtrot1967
    @Foxtrot1967 2 роки тому +9

    $6200! At that price, I'll take a McIntosh any day over it. More important @1:56 I only see about $500-$700 worth of components in it plus the box and speaker outs with no company track record or guarantee they'll be around when the over-priced wannabe amp dies

    • @epi2045
      @epi2045 2 роки тому +1

      Yup! The sum of the parts don’t add up. A silly product.

  • @popdufc4139
    @popdufc4139 2 роки тому +1

    Audiophile Beard. Sure to make vintage systems sound funkier

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 2 роки тому

    Very intrigued with this amp.

  • @craigaust3306
    @craigaust3306 2 роки тому

    If I read the specs correctly, the rated power is 25 W at 1 kHz. It’s been a while since I’ve seen an amp rated at a narrow frequency.

  • @chrispicquet733
    @chrispicquet733 2 роки тому +1

    I would like to hear this amp.but I found that my low powered 35wpc Crown D-45 is actually an incredible Amp! My Crown Power Line Three is an amazing match with Klipsch Heritage Series ,as was a Crown DC300a ll that I picked up in the early 90's,when I owned a pair of raw birch Heresy's.It was the only amp that produced deep bass out of my heresey's ,and my small Crown D-45 is the best Headphone Amp I have ever heard! Thanx,chris

  • @tomsherwood4650
    @tomsherwood4650 2 роки тому +2

    Having the Klipsch give you the opportunity to enjoy stuff that is quality not quantity. Or even classic tube amps, I suppose. Stuff that is off the menu for people with those big power sink speakers.

  • @318ishonk
    @318ishonk Місяць тому

    Another amp with lateral FETs from Exicon. Like Kinki Studio amps. I built some DIY amps with these FETs and I'm also very happy with them. Better than my previous Hegel amp (to my ears).

  • @peterjmcgee4680
    @peterjmcgee4680 2 роки тому +1

    I myself I go out I'm in my sixties and I buy a lot of stuff off of eBay that's not working I refab and I pass it on to people that price that they can afford to buy it I have saved a lot of receivers from going into the junk pile as well as speakers I reform them I also rebuild the crossover networks in them so they sound as good if not better than it did when they were new this is a hobby that I love to do I don't make a lot of money doing it I just enjoy doing it and I try to keep it affordable for people

  • @HiFiInsider
    @HiFiInsider 2 роки тому

    it looks nice. like to check it out one day.

  • @greganderson1681
    @greganderson1681 2 роки тому +2

    I have that Kronos CD. I’ll fire it up later. Great musical choices and headphones to drool over!

  • @sabrowenie
    @sabrowenie 2 роки тому +2

    Everything is subjective. Had my Arcam Aplha-8 restored last year for 10% of this cost. Driving my Cornwalls v1 it’s my keeper system when I retire and downsize.

  • @DeAudiofilosyLocos
    @DeAudiofilosyLocos 2 роки тому

    Linda Ronstad sang in a Phillip Glass opera record called “1000 airplanes on the roof” in 1989

  • @garyalexander5686
    @garyalexander5686 2 роки тому +4

    Hi Steve - I have to confess that I watch your reviews as much for music recommendations as I do the gear. I wanted to say thank you for the Nils Frahm "Felt" recommendation. I've not heard anything quite like it. At times it almost sounds as if I'm inside the piano. It's wonderfully involving music.

  • @ralphmilburn6245
    @ralphmilburn6245 2 роки тому +3

    Hey, I have and use a Sansui AU-717 AV receiver. Cool!

    • @mikeuk4130
      @mikeuk4130 2 роки тому

      That is so cool! My second-ever amp was the legendary AU101!

    • @inkedaudiophile7546
      @inkedaudiophile7546 2 роки тому

      This fully restored one is in my system for close to 3 years and it drives those Tannoy great! Plus the phono preamp is very good.

  • @contemporaryartist6542
    @contemporaryartist6542 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks. Compared to hpa-1 as headphone amp only would be appreciated. Best wishes

  • @kloss213
    @kloss213 2 роки тому +7

    Sometimes I like to hook a small amp up to my giant horn speakers its fun to see audiophiles search for the amplifier.

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +7

      Well, very large speakers tend to be high sensitivity, so sure small amps can work wonders. But small speakers are very low sensitivity and don’t work well with small amps.

  • @samgilliland3423
    @samgilliland3423 2 роки тому +1

    How does the sound compare to the schitt ragnarok2?

  • @TombstoneTube
    @TombstoneTube 2 роки тому +2

    The system of the day is of great taste. Bet it sounds great too

  • @Justwantahover
    @Justwantahover 2 роки тому

    Review the Starksound AD4 power amp. It is interesting!

  • @curioustraveler1390
    @curioustraveler1390 2 роки тому

    Hey Steve, how does this compare to the AVA Set 120 control amp?

  • @jaybowen2235
    @jaybowen2235 2 роки тому +3

    I would love to see a review of the Tannoy Eatons (like in the viewer's system of the day)

  • @stimpy1226
    @stimpy1226 2 роки тому +5

    You never heard Linda Ronstadt sing “Heat Wave”? Her voice is so powerful and, Martha and the Vandellas could not hold a candle to it. For me that seeing a whole lot about her talent.

  • @bobc455
    @bobc455 2 роки тому

    I run my Klipsch with a 30Wx2 NAD D3020 and at first I thought this amp would be a class AB version of my setup but now I'm thinking this amp is not really comparable to my class D...

  • @williamgoldstein4877
    @williamgoldstein4877 2 роки тому

    Awesome

  • @billiondollarbaby3276
    @billiondollarbaby3276 2 роки тому +4

    You screwed up around the 8 minute mark when making the Enleum vs Pass comparison. You said the Pass was Darker ( less bright) than THE PASS LABS GEAR. You mentioned PASS Twice. So we are left wondering....did you mean to say the ENLEUM was darker sounding OR was the Enleum more bright. Check it out

  • @meshplates
    @meshplates 2 роки тому +11

    Are footers what used to be called feet? The price gives me cold footers!

    • @BruceCross
      @BruceCross 2 роки тому +1

      Also, the feet are almost as tall as the amp, so I think they ruin the proportions.

    • @alanrogs3990
      @alanrogs3990 2 роки тому +1

      And they're an extra $500 more! 🤣

  • @Michael-xz1nk
    @Michael-xz1nk 2 роки тому +42

    I'm definitely a lover of small chassis components so this new amp really speaks to me. However, spending $6,250 for a product offering only a 2 year warranty from a manufacturer with no history of longevity and reliability is beyond scary and risky to me. Many years ago, I coveted owning an amp by GAS (Great American Sound). When I could finally afford one, the company was long gone. This says all you need to know about how I feel about buying expensive gear from new companies without a track record of being around for a minimum of 20+ years....like Linn, Audio Research, McIntosh, et al.

    • @soulnik
      @soulnik 2 роки тому +6

      Exactly! For the price of this I could buy a brand new Bryston 4B amp ($6800) and have a 20 year warranty and if anything goes wrong they will fix it. Bryston have been around for 40+ years and they aren't going anywhere. A measly 2 year warranty made in South Korea product ain't gonna cut it with me no matter how great the thing sounds.

    • @Michael-xz1nk
      @Michael-xz1nk 2 роки тому

      Amen brother!!

    • @michaelhollesen7925
      @michaelhollesen7925 2 роки тому +5

      Being a happy Bakoon International amp owner and "fanboy" - the company behind the Enleum brand has been in operation since 2009. In principle I agree with you about always having to think twice about "longevity" - but in this particular case, I'd just advice you to listen to the amp first anyway. Or check out some of the many other reviews out there for this new AMP-23R. That should put your fears to rest.

    • @Michael-xz1nk
      @Michael-xz1nk 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks…just not my cup of tea. I like classic brands with lots of history. Just different strokes. Enjoy.

    • @willmac5642
      @willmac5642 2 роки тому

      It's (to an extent) a rebrand of an existing product

  • @atavachron27
    @atavachron27 2 роки тому +8

    Wow! Quite a staggering array of very narrow minded and misinformed views on this post! Firstly, last time I looked, South Korea is making some of the highest quality electronics on the planet.....why is made in America any better than made in S Korea? And by all accounts this is a world class speaker amp and headphone amp in one package. I just bought one so I must be an idiot too! But likely I can use the enleum to replace two tube based amps that are heavy, inefficient, get uncomfortably hot in summer, can be noisy and need tube management. No, I won't give up my tube amps, but the Enleum is an interesting product for a niche market. Who says $6250 for the enleum is crazy but $80,000 for Kondo is ok? It's all subjective. If you can afford it and it meets your needs....why not? Are we going to start pricing Amps by the kg? This amp has Bakoon DNA....who have made a number of very well reviewed Amps....so this isn't an amp from a new kid on the block....it has good form. Strange lots of folks are picking on Enleum....chord products are generally light and have nothing special component wise.....but I don't hear the same level of criticism about " the Dave" for example?

    • @carlosoliveira-rc2xt
      @carlosoliveira-rc2xt 2 роки тому

      Nobody wants to admit they made a poor purchase decision. You sound like a nobody.

    • @repairfreak
      @repairfreak 2 роки тому

      Please send me one for my birthday if possible. Pm me and I will provide my shipping address. Thank you so very much, you are awesome my friend!
      ✌️😎👍

  • @xstensl8823
    @xstensl8823 2 роки тому +8

    if Leica made an amp this would be it.

    • @greganderson1681
      @greganderson1681 2 роки тому

      Very apt comparison. Although Leica has a century of excellence behind it, and this little box doesn’t. I know very well what a Leica can do. Never heard an Enleum.

    • @xstensl8823
      @xstensl8823 2 роки тому

      @@greganderson1681 i think the same people who would buy this are the same people who would buy a Leica Q2. they probably would not buy a Q2 to take wedding photos or post vlogs on facebook

  • @labalo5
    @labalo5 2 роки тому +6

    I have the prior flagship and these are the real deal. Glad you found these amps Steve! I have these in my fleetwoods and the are a fantastic pairing!!

    • @billiondollarbaby3276
      @billiondollarbaby3276 2 роки тому +2

      My buddy ditched his Enleum 23 and he uses the Deville's as well. He preferred both the Valvet E3 and Luxman 595 over the Enleum for the Fleetwoods. Just sayin so you might want to check em out if you can

    • @labalo5
      @labalo5 2 роки тому +4

      had a chance to demo one locally (595), its good…but like steve mentioned, it was just another amp for me…the Enleum (bakoon) sounds more natural, yet lively, especially when the speakers start to approach sensitivity over 91 (1w/1m) or so.. also the Devilles are low excursion/stiff, I wouldn’t add anything that needs to control it more than what it already does so well naturally. You’re just artificially punching and stopping the woofer more… The 595, compared to the Enleum is a more flexible amp for folks who arent settled on what lies ahead in the future in their mains…. The Enleum (Bakoon) sound put me on a more focused path of what to look for should i ever change my speakers…my previous amps kind of left me uncertain to the next pairing. Enleum (Bakoon) doesn’t do this…it will be with me for a long time.
      If i can pull out the ‘my buddy…’ card too, (oem’s published his speaker reviews’ - not to mention an Ongaku amp collecting dust in his garage lol!) the Valvet gives the typical class A sound - whats new? Enleum is much aware of the Deville pairing. But thanks for the rec, no harm no foul! 👍🏼

    • @billiondollarbaby3276
      @billiondollarbaby3276 2 роки тому +2

      @@labalo5 Just repeating what his experience was. Everybody's tastes are different. I have the Fleetwoods too and over a dozen amps in the stable so looking forward to seeing what works best for my individual taste. I hear the Enleum works well with the Cube Nenuphar's which I also have laying around so might pick up the 23R for myself.

    • @labalo5
      @labalo5 2 роки тому +1

      @@billiondollarbaby3276 i hear yah..! No harm, no foul - all passion!

  • @goodsound4756
    @goodsound4756 2 роки тому +3

    The main USP of this amp is that it has a variable gain design, but Steve doesn’t mention it once?

  • @ashleywatson5101
    @ashleywatson5101 2 роки тому +3

    I have recently added the earlier Bakoon amp (15W) to my high sensitivity system. Pure magic. Beat out tubes and high power SS. The temptation is to add another Bakoon component in the chain!

    • @joonkeum9457
      @joonkeum9457 2 роки тому

      What speakers are you using with the Bakoon?

    • @ashleywatson5101
      @ashleywatson5101 2 роки тому

      @@joonkeum9457 DIY speakers based around the Beyma 15Xa38Nd coaxial driver (98db) in an oversized aperiodic cabinet (meant to suit the current drive amp topology). The cabinet design is an upscaled version of the Tannoy Cornetta corner cabs made for Japan only, with front-loaded horn. The Current drive amp adds a boost around the driver Fs that improved bass response.

  • @charleskatz2606
    @charleskatz2606 2 роки тому

    Seems like someone who owns. a Bakoon would be down with this other S.Korean made amp.But yeah I guess the coni arris on I would have liked would haven been with the Schiit Freya+ and Aegir I.one underpriced and one overpriced going by current market prices.One would think that four times the price would pay off but for me I’d rather take the Freya and mix it with the Pass then have enough coin left over to go to Europe and back

  • @Karim-ik5ij
    @Karim-ik5ij Рік тому

    kind of a newbie question. can you connect subwoofers to this? so 2.1 setup?

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  Рік тому

      Yes, but limited to subwoofers that use speaker level inputs. That type of subwoofer runs off the amplifier’s speaker connectors. So yes, This is a little confusing, or may be a lot confusing, but the amplifier can be hooked up to speakers and a subwoofer of that type at the same time. REL subs are specifically designed with that application in mind.

  • @cameronkrause4712
    @cameronkrause4712 Рік тому

    Linda was brilliant.

  • @milr9694
    @milr9694 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Steve, Missed seeing you at Axpona this year. Even bought an Audiophiliac t shirt in case we ran into you.

  • @bruce8429
    @bruce8429 2 роки тому +1

    What is in this that prevents a company like Schiit from producing something like this. Is the sound from high tech expensive parts, ingenious circuits, precise parts matching, or something else. Should I wait for patents to expire. Give us a hint.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq 2 роки тому

      I think its too expensive for what it is, but the parts and labor needed to build an amp like this is very high. I can only guess, but it probably costs around $1500 to $2000 to build (parts and labor). Schiit uses off the shelf parts, so building one of their integrated amps is much less costly. If they wanted to make an amp like this, they would have to charge a lot more money.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 2 роки тому +3

    I say “ hemp” three times fast every evening when I get home:)

  • @Justwantahover
    @Justwantahover 2 роки тому

    How would it go compared with a 2 grand pre amp and 2x 2 grand monoblocks? For the same price wouldn't the monoblocks smoke it?

  • @martindevon3204
    @martindevon3204 2 роки тому +3

    Knob feel is very very satisfying? 🤭🤭🤭

  • @thomothomo1078
    @thomothomo1078 2 роки тому

    Should have really listened to some piano music.Then he would have got the superiority of the Bakoon designs.I have owned every sort of amplifier and nothing I have used sounds as good as my Japanese Bakoon.They are best with genuine 8 ohm speakers however.

  • @jeremyr722
    @jeremyr722 2 роки тому +1

    I am straight up jealous of your viewer’s Tannoys 😍

  • @presidentpotato222
    @presidentpotato222 2 роки тому +3

    Looks like it could be a great match for a desktops setup .. for headphone and speakers set up

  • @love2spinvinyl
    @love2spinvinyl 2 роки тому +5

    Find it funny how people get tied up with the 25w and do not realise it blows most 100w amps out of the water. Come on people don’t get tied up with companies claimed maxed watt output.
    And Steve what the hell was going on with this weeks podcast? I couldn’t finish it.

  • @tedthompson8971
    @tedthompson8971 2 роки тому +1

    Any comparisons to First Watt on the Cornwalls? I may have missed it, but can this be used as a power amp with separate preamp? Thanks

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому

      Thanks Ted, no it cannot be used as a separate power amp. I compared it with the Pass Labs XA 25 (same power rating as the Enleum) but no first watt amps.

    • @iceshow4582
      @iceshow4582 2 роки тому +1

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac No disrespect Steve but yes it can be used as a power amp with a preamp. I have the 23R and I use my Audio By Van Alstine FET Valve CF vacuum tube preamp as 1 of the 2 inputs to the 23R. The 23R is actually ideal for using a preamp because the volume control is a variable gain control, not an attenuator like you mentioned in your video. The other input to the 23R is a direct feed from DAC so I can compare the sound quality with and without the preamp in the chain.

    • @billiondollarbaby3276
      @billiondollarbaby3276 2 роки тому

      @@iceshow4582 Thats sad when these guys review these products and dont even do their homework. Just get it in and get it out the door just as fast and bring in the next piece of gear. Like the McDonald's of High End Audio review.

  • @marcusklingman
    @marcusklingman 2 роки тому +2

    Here is another small amp for the list. The VMV A1 from SMSL. Class A, 10w, small package. Costs $ 600 with remote control. Fantastic build quality. i was intrigued by the concept and bought it. And guess what, with my Audio Note AN-E speakers it is really good. Very clean sounding , huge soundstage front to back and side to side. Never aggressive and good bass. I had other amps to compare it to from Audio Research, Classé Audio and PS Audio. I sold them all. Just don't use it with power hungry speakers.

    • @pault.9724
      @pault.9724 2 роки тому

      I have also the VMV...use it with Dynaudio Heritage...only 85 db but with goed behaviour concerning impedance...is very good when playing not too loud...

  • @henriksrensen3220
    @henriksrensen3220 2 роки тому

    Great review Steve. It is zero global negative feedback design?

  • @seanb3303
    @seanb3303 2 роки тому +2

    Zero feedback designs have high second order distortion and sound very pleasing. They measure terribly but I don’t care about SINAD.

  • @scottgordon1721
    @scottgordon1721 2 роки тому +3

    Check out the Technics sug700 for $2500 has 70 watts a great phono stage, a headphone amp, and a top DAC save 4 grand check out the SUG700. Oh it looks beautiful as well rather than this industrial-looking piece. The only downside with Technicis the corporation has zero support should something go south. for $6200 seriously save your coin.

  • @martinmiller7623
    @martinmiller7623 2 роки тому +1

    Must be good dope lol. I got it but hell no not enough power.

  • @epi2045
    @epi2045 2 роки тому

    This thing for $6,250 (2 yr warranty)or the beautiful legendary Pass Labs XA25 Class A 50 wpc (3 yr warranty) with Schitt Audio Freya Plus (5 yr warranty) for $6,000?

  • @davidh.7305
    @davidh.7305 2 роки тому +2

    Consider sharing the music you use in the notes or a link.

  • @Justwantahover
    @Justwantahover 2 роки тому +6

    Compare it with the Audiolab 6000A that is double the power and a quarter the price and reviewers are having kittens over it.

  • @jeffkalina7727
    @jeffkalina7727 2 роки тому +1

    Love to hear what Herb thinks of this INT as compared to the Pass INT25 as I own that INT. Similar power and pricing. LeJon Kluo makes and INT for $4K similar power. You might love it. Fredrik should send you one. He also has the best laid out website for an informational viewpoint.
    Missed you at Axpona. Hope your health is good.

  • @kevinrouthieaux26
    @kevinrouthieaux26 2 роки тому

    25w is not a lot of power. But I’ve wondered at times how might 25 watts of class A or A/B power compare to ten times as many class D watts. Or even 2.5 watts of tube power. If only there was a way to have all of these things in the same place.. Is there truly a way to frame that within this format? Eh, maybe it’s a podcast

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +3

      Hey, The 2 watts per channel Decware Zen Triode ampconstantly amazes me. For moderately loud level with moderately sensitive speakers you don't need a lot of power. Power IS required for 90 dB+ levels with dynamic clout-slam, absolutely, even with high sensitivity speakers, but not every listener is looking for that.

    • @kevinrouthieaux26
      @kevinrouthieaux26 2 роки тому

      Thanks for that zen/aegir/brooklyn comp on the 600mII review! As a Brooklyn Amp owner with a Zen in production, I can’t wait to make this evaluation myself 😀

  • @BastianUllr
    @BastianUllr 2 роки тому +2

    Very high end sound? And what does that mean?

    • @iceshow4582
      @iceshow4582 2 роки тому +1

      If you don't know, why are you here?

    • @BastianUllr
      @BastianUllr 2 роки тому +1

      @@iceshow4582 and you are telling me I’m the one who doesn’t know? - ha! Sure. Since you have it so clearly, please elaborate at least how you have drawn the conclusion. I am already expecting not to see an answer, so don’t you worry. It’s not your ignorance fault, the problem is bigger than you.
      Click baits have become really really cheap by now.

  • @Labor_Jones
    @Labor_Jones 2 роки тому +1

    .... Insurance - I need insurance that my stuff will disappear, and I can collect to buy that amp :)

  • @yayhoo8848
    @yayhoo8848 2 роки тому +1

    $6000!!! Burston makes a similarly small mono amp that is class AB for $3500.

  • @dougdavis8986
    @dougdavis8986 2 роки тому

    Call me confused. How can this power the Maggie's after all I've been reading about them?

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +5

      Well, it shows that reading is not the same thing as using. I used it with the LRS. I’m not saying it played super loud, but it was loud enough for me

    • @labalo5
      @labalo5 2 роки тому +2

      It’s high current

  • @JohnVander70
    @JohnVander70 2 роки тому +3

    Watches are far smaller and cost far more (and they only tell time), I'd take that amp over a Rolex any day.

    • @alanrogs3990
      @alanrogs3990 2 роки тому +1

      Rolex has a name that has stood the test of time though. I believe this company's name goes all the way back to 2020.

  • @allenbrixey1122
    @allenbrixey1122 2 роки тому +8

    Over 6k. It probably sounds good for it's size. But for the price they can keep it.

    • @alanrogs3990
      @alanrogs3990 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly

    • @stevenholt5484
      @stevenholt5484 2 роки тому

      I'll third that. For a third of the price - or less - you could get top of the line Schitt amp, preamp, and dac. I get SO sick and tired of companies that have a 10x markup 'because they can'.

  • @mikrophonie5633
    @mikrophonie5633 2 роки тому +17

    Man inflation is really hitting everything. I heard that amp was $250 last year, lolz.

  • @alanrogs3990
    @alanrogs3990 2 роки тому

    Around $5,500

  • @mrfrosty3
    @mrfrosty3 2 роки тому

    Bakoon is a lot more fun to say.

  • @zackpetrovic3029
    @zackpetrovic3029 2 роки тому

    Might be related to Bakoon

  • @bubbleone6526
    @bubbleone6526 2 роки тому

    Did I win something from you? There was a post saying I did but this sees to hard to complete the transaction? Please answer if you see this.

  • @steveericson2321
    @steveericson2321 2 роки тому

    Why has Bakoon changed their name for the US?

    • @Antdroid
      @Antdroid 2 роки тому

      I believe Bakoon JP (the original Bakoon) wanted their name back from Bakoon Intl (korean version) (now Enleum)

  • @JamesJoyce12
    @JamesJoyce12 2 роки тому

    We have known about using feedback loops to limit THD for decades now so why are folks still peddling "zero-feedback" designs? Is this simply being iconoclastic or something else? I am genuinely curious.

    • @robertjermantowicz8619
      @robertjermantowicz8619 2 роки тому

      Zero feedback is just another marketing ploy.

    • @JamesJoyce12
      @JamesJoyce12 2 роки тому +1

      @@robertjermantowicz8619 Dude - it is a circuit design choice - it actually exists. lol

    • @robertjermantowicz8619
      @robertjermantowicz8619 2 роки тому

      @@JamesJoyce12 Yes, I know that but proper use of feedback is beneficial for lowering distortion and output impedance!

  • @ufarkingicehole
    @ufarkingicehole 2 роки тому +2

    How much?????

  • @ncfamily4
    @ncfamily4 2 роки тому

    If I’m going to spend that kind of money on an integrated amp, it’s going to be the Prima Luna Evo400, and it’s 1k less. Being an audiophile today, it’s getting way too expensive.

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +2

      I hear you, but it doesn’t have to be expensive! There’s lots of terrific affordable gear on the market. And I cover that and the expensive stuff, I want to show what’s out there. That’s all. Thanks for watching

    • @robertjermantowicz8619
      @robertjermantowicz8619 2 роки тому +1

      $6250!!! Way too expensive! How can it sound $5K better than an NAD? Not to mention the Topping PA5 for a mere $349!

    • @Jedi71
      @Jedi71 2 роки тому

      There is no way it's worth over $6,000.

    • @larrywe3320
      @larrywe3320 2 роки тому

      @@robertjermantowicz8619 Way too many problems with the Topping PA5... Pass on that one

    • @billiondollarbaby3276
      @billiondollarbaby3276 2 роки тому

      Prima Luna isnt an Audiophile Brand. Mid-Fi

  • @Labor_Jones
    @Labor_Jones 2 роки тому +1

    In all honesty I wish it was 2x the power for a little more. - m.

  • @davidnord1979
    @davidnord1979 2 роки тому +2

    I get it..but for 6k for something you can hold in the palm of your hand damn.

    • @johansallqvist6027
      @johansallqvist6027 2 роки тому +2

      Lika a diamond…

    • @joonkeum9457
      @joonkeum9457 2 роки тому

      @@johansallqvist6027 the sound that this sort product produces, comes without potential liabilities such as alimony and the like.

  • @welshrarebit9238
    @welshrarebit9238 2 роки тому

    There are Many other integrated amps at this price to consider……..MOON …..

  • @thehaakone
    @thehaakone 2 роки тому

    I wonder how many people turned off this video at exactly 3:27

  • @ede6539
    @ede6539 2 роки тому +2

    That must have cost them at least $200 to make ;) I like Schiit for the money!! And would rather look at my Samsun 9090db but I’m a retro guy!

  • @electricsnut
    @electricsnut Рік тому

    Thats stupid money lol, Luxman LX-380 territory

  • @larrywe3320
    @larrywe3320 2 роки тому

    $6,200... God Bless

  • @hifiandrew
    @hifiandrew 2 роки тому +3

    Clearly the headline for this is the sticker shock. I was expecting to hear... $1500... $2000... but $6k? For not even class A? My lord I can think of so many things at or below that .. Bel Canto REF600M, Benchmark AHB2, Mcintosh MA5300, and First Watt..

    • @repairfreak
      @repairfreak 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly, ridiculous price, I would go with a Mcintosh product over this in a second!

    • @epi2045
      @epi2045 2 роки тому +1

      The Decware top-of-the-line Zen Mystery 40wpc dual mono tube amp, hand built in the US, with lifetime warranty (minus tubes) is $6,000. Not even sure why Steve reviewed this product.

  • @alexandervaneijken7741
    @alexandervaneijken7741 2 роки тому +2

    25 watts per channel ,AB design and made in the Far East . For $ 6000,00 it is a steal!

    • @joonkeum9457
      @joonkeum9457 2 роки тому

      or get 3 of the latest flagship Galaxy phones for the same price! It all come to what people value...This sort of product will get decades of use in comparison to smartphones.

    • @alexandervaneijken7741
      @alexandervaneijken7741 2 роки тому

      @@joonkeum9457 Or get 6000 items from the Dollar Shop, or get ten Omega Watches , or get 6000 recordd from the dollar bin. Or get 1000 gallons petrol the list goes on and on. Get a decent used car . Whatis the argument ?

  • @epi2045
    @epi2045 2 роки тому +1

    Last video was a $5,000 retro Mission bookshelf / mid floor speaker. This silly thing is $6,000 where it urges the saying, “The sum of the parts don’t add up.” There must be a shortage of products to review.

  • @richardvannoy1198
    @richardvannoy1198 2 роки тому +1

    People who are familiar with your reviews should realize by now that price is not a factor in your evaluations. That’s fine for some. Just not for 99% of stereo equipment buyers out there. That’s okay. If people enjoy hearing about items that have an outrageous quality to price ratio, fine. So be it. Judging by the number of your subscribers that’s clearly a lot of us. 🤣

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +4

      Yeah, I wish there was more affordable interesting stuff for me to review. But you know car magazines review Ferraris and Maseratis that 99% plus of the readers can’t afford. People like reading about cool stuff.

    • @ryanschipp8513
      @ryanschipp8513 2 роки тому

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Steve....I have some affordable interesting gear. NUPRIME AUDIO. Run by Jason Lim...formerly of NUFORCE. They have a ton of different gear. Pre's, Dac's, Amps(stereo and monoblocks), and a CD player. Anything from 1k to 8k for some monoblocks. Amp technology is their own Class D modules. They also use a linear power supply. Both of these aspects are VERY rare as you know. They have been flying under the radar WAY TO LONG. Can you give them a shot?

    • @richardvannoy1198
      @richardvannoy1198 2 роки тому

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Yes sir, I agree. Thanks for the reply. Honored that you would take the time to do so.👍

  • @hdgboy
    @hdgboy 2 роки тому +2

    Love you Steve but it’s getting harder and harder to “swallow” the prices these company’s come up with. Minimalist design, minimal parts then you have buy the phono preamp and/or DAC which could potentially triple the price and you still don’t have speakers or turntable.

  • @repairfreak
    @repairfreak 2 роки тому +2

    Insane price for only 25W! I would never throw that kind of money away with so many better and more powerful options available for much less.

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin 2 роки тому

      25W not even enough to power a soundbar or desktop monitors. LOL

  • @fletchermunson6225
    @fletchermunson6225 2 роки тому +10

    Thanks for the review. I've become a bit numb to high end audio prices and the questionable price/value issue of some gear, but the idea of a flea powered amp made cheaply overseas selling for $6000. offends me.

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +4

      OK, I hear you. But my job here is to present a wide variety of products for entertainment and information purposes. This isn’t the shopping network!

    • @fletchermunson6225
      @fletchermunson6225 2 роки тому

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Not criticizing you, however, that condescending "shopping network" comment sounds like a slam on your viewers who cant or won't pay outrageous prices for audio gear. I can afford it, but I have more common sense than to buy it.

    • @ADREISTER
      @ADREISTER 2 роки тому

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac thank you for reviewing this amp, but I agree that a Korean-made engineered and made amp, is just an American company looking for a specific group to sell to.

    • @TheChrisleekay
      @TheChrisleekay 2 роки тому

      I agree, I'm not sure where that price tag is coming from! What are the components that are lifting the price that high??

    • @abomani21
      @abomani21 2 роки тому

      @@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac I think the subscriber makes a very valid observation! Shopping Network or not.

  • @paulomontero12
    @paulomontero12 2 роки тому +1

    High end my arsh! It’s 6200 bucks for hardly any inputs??

  • @artyfhartie2269
    @artyfhartie2269 2 роки тому +3

    Tix tousand dollars!!!??

    • @Niels133
      @Niels133 2 роки тому +2

      I couldn't believe it also. It looks like a Chinese amp.

  • @willmac5642
    @willmac5642 2 роки тому

    Prefer the original design tbh

  • @cobar5342
    @cobar5342 2 роки тому

    Rather expensive

  • @JackTheSkunk
    @JackTheSkunk 2 роки тому +14

    You lost me as soon as yu said "six thousand...".

    • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
      @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac  2 роки тому +5

      Did you miss the part where I said very high end?:)

    • @louisperlman8030
      @louisperlman8030 2 роки тому +1

      Wouldn’t ‘very high end’ be the likes of Boulder, CH Precision, Gryphon,etc.?

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 2 роки тому +3

      Very high end in price, ;-)

    • @iceshow4582
      @iceshow4582 2 роки тому

      @@RennieAsh Have you heard it? I doubt it.

    • @RennieAsh
      @RennieAsh 2 роки тому

      @@iceshow4582 Yeah, because it's too costly :) No matter how "good" it sounds, it's still expensive. I doubt you'd be able to tell how good it sounds if you didn't see what was playing and the price :)