And for those of us who can't afford our 1st class tickets on Christmas, there's always the model train set. I believe Anthony made a Christmas special on those a few years back...
Daniel Gooch's first Christmas after he got married was in 1838 and his wife was expecting their first child. He spent Christmas Day in the smith's shop with Brunel making an experimental cross shaped blast pipe for North Star.
Several local "hotels"...(pubs) sold large bottles of water (I assume hot water) for travellers by the L&M in winter along with "winter nips" (could be brandy related items? Lol) at the Manchester end of the line and possibly also local hostels around Crown Street Liverpool might have done the same. The white lion pub on Liverpool Road Manchester used to have an old booking register and such "winter bottles" back in the 70s , no idea if they're still there though or what happened to them if the present owners don't have them now.
Ive not seen any of that in the any of the records of the L&M or letter books etc. There hot-water filled 'carriage warmers' which were long domed tin containers which sort of helped warmed a carriage. Food and aclohol was banned on any part of L&M property so it would be unlikely to be anything alcoholic they were selling.
Fascinating film, thank you. The poster of GER Christmas services in 1877 struck a note, as an Ely resident; many of the places named no longer have a rail service.
Merry Christmas Anthony, and thank you for all of the awesome videos this year - I don’t know how you do it but as every year goes by your channel just keeps getting better !
First a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to you as well Anthony. I never get tired of seeing the magnificent Plant replica. It’s such a beautiful creation. In the days when the Royal Navy still had sailing only warships the land based entities had machines like the Planet, Fire Fly and many other very nice locomotives to show off. I really look forward to many more Rail Stories in the year(s) to come.🎉🎉🎉
Hello Mr. Antony, I must congratulate you on a splended presontation, as always. I wish you a merry Christmas and many thanks for keeping me entertained and educated 🙂
Best wishes for a happy Christmas to Anthony and all your subscribers, many thanks for your videos and am looking forward to a New Year sprinkled with your informative and entertaining gems.
I'm enjoying a nice" brandy Nip" while watching this video at home, it's getting colder around the southern US, such an cute video my friend. A very Merry Christmas and fruitful new year to you as well, Full steam ahead!
I vaguely recall that you’ve previously mentioned that a ticket with seat reservation was required on the early Liverpool and Manchester railway. Do you know long did this lasted? Thanks for making and sharing!
Until 1845 when the L&M ceased to exist. But Guards were able to sell tickets for second-class stopping trains at the intermediate stations, so long as there was space.
Happy Holidays and Merry New Year to you and yours. I don't remember the museum, but I assume the last train on the video is a 7 foot gauge line.(edited to put back the missing "7")
Hey Anthony, this is kind of un-related, but I was talking with a mate and a question struck me, who actually built the 4 and 6 wheeled coaches for the various railway companies? were they all built in house to different designs, or was their one design patented and sold to the various companies? I only ask because of the wonderful Hattons Genesis coaches being identical apart from livery, and from photos of surviving 4 and 6 wheel coaches today, they are all eerily similar. And I hope you too have a wonderful holiday season!
The Hattons Genesis Coaches are meant to be generic, non descript, applicable to any line but therefore applicable to none because they lack key features of the originals. They're like a combination of features from all the companies and builders. Carriages were either made "in house" by Company owned carriage & wagon works, such as Wolverton for the LNWR; York for the North Eastern; Stoke for the NSR. Or were made by outside companies such as in the early days Wright of Birmingham; Melling of Manchester or Ashbury Carriage & Wagon of Manchester etc. Ashburys went on to be one of the biggest makers of rolling stock in Britain. Each of these carriage works and outside firms had their own "house style" and you can easily tell an LNWR carriage from an NER or an Ashbury.
Thomas Russell Crampton's 1842 patent for was 'improvements in steam-engines and railway-carriages whilst that of 1845 was for 'Locomotive Steam Engines and Railways'. In 1845 the traction engine was know it did not exist: the traction engine is quite a late development thanks the first "Modern" traction engine with all the key features (horizontal locomotive type boiler; over-slung engine; gear drive to the rear wheel; front wheel stear from the tender) came about in 1870. Crampton's patent "safety" locomotive applied to rail vehicles only.
Before about 1860-ish, (depending on the country), weather records are not always reliable. Local records often exaggerated extremes of heat, cold, wind speed, etc. for the sensation it would bring. But consistent day time temperatures of below freezing sustained for a week are fairly rare in England outside mountainous areas.
Believe me, it was -7 centigrade walking home last night from a friends and it was very very cold. -1 centigrade during th day time is cold. And it was - as the UK is enjoying at present - a sustained frost with it never getting above freezing point by day or night. The lowest recorded temperature was minus 12 celcius in London. It was sufficiently cold for canals and even the Thames to freeze. If large bodies of water and moving water are freezing then it was definitely cold.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Having read Dickens I always thought the winters in Europe in those years were much colder (due to volcanic eruptions in Indonesia). Perhaps -10C for extended time does not seem unusual to me as I am in Ontario. Many of our smaller lakes freeze hard enough to walk on, and drive across (some of us cut holes through and fish). The Great Lakes don't freeze over though.
@@anthonyjackson280 Mount Tambora went off in 1815-1816 which caused cooling for a few years around that date, leading to poor harvest and social unrest leading to events like the Peterloo Massacre in 1819. The weather in 1830 had been one of extremes really: exceptionally wet and cold spring and summer followed by a freezing winter with the Thames being frozen and canals frozen up. In the UK -10C for a week is quite unusual. This last ten days it's been -4C to about -1C throughout the day and as low as -10C at night and around dawn. No snow, just very hard frost. Might not be Ontario cold but it's certainly cold for this part of Britain - different of course in Scotland and Wales.
Christmas trains and steam locomotives go hand in hand with each other.
They do!!!
And for those of us who can't afford our 1st class tickets on Christmas, there's always the model train set. I believe Anthony made a Christmas special on those a few years back...
Est voila! :-) ua-cam.com/video/L9lWSOZqApU/v-deo.html
Daniel Gooch's first Christmas after he got married was in 1838 and his wife was expecting their first child.
He spent Christmas Day in the smith's shop with Brunel making an experimental cross shaped blast pipe for North Star.
I bet his wife loved him for that!
Several local "hotels"...(pubs) sold large bottles of water (I assume hot water) for travellers by the L&M in winter along with "winter nips" (could be brandy related items? Lol) at the Manchester end of the line and possibly also local hostels around Crown Street Liverpool might have done the same.
The white lion pub on Liverpool Road Manchester used to have an old booking register and such "winter bottles" back in the 70s , no idea if they're still there though or what happened to them if the present owners don't have them now.
Ive not seen any of that in the any of the records of the L&M or letter books etc. There hot-water filled 'carriage warmers' which were long domed tin containers which sort of helped warmed a carriage. Food and aclohol was banned on any part of L&M property so it would be unlikely to be anything alcoholic they were selling.
Fascinating film, thank you. The poster of GER Christmas services in 1877 struck a note, as an Ely resident; many of the places named no longer have a rail service.
Planet and Fire look superb.
or Sand boxes I believe. loved hearing the original Plant being mentioned in the news paper
Have a good one, Anthony and here's to more great Rail Stories next year!
Thankyou!
And a merry Christmas to you and your's as well Anthony. See you in 2023
You too!
Parkside had moved up the line by 1839 to service the junction ;-)
Shh. Spoilers.
and i wish YOU a merry Chrismas. and a happy new year!
🎄🎅 🥂🎆
Merry Christmas Anthony, and thank you for all of the awesome videos this year - I don’t know how you do it but as every year goes by your channel just keeps getting better !
Happy Christmas... 👍👍
You too!
First a Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year to you as well Anthony. I never get tired of seeing the magnificent Plant replica. It’s such a beautiful creation. In the days when the Royal Navy still had sailing only warships the land based entities had machines like the Planet, Fire Fly and many other very nice locomotives to show off. I really look forward to many more Rail Stories in the year(s) to come.🎉🎉🎉
Hello Mr. Antony,
I must congratulate you on a splended presontation, as always.
I wish you a merry Christmas and many thanks for keeping me entertained and educated 🙂
Thankyou very much, and thanks for your support this year! Happy Christmas.
Really enjoyed this, but can see some that not much changed from the Victorians to the modern day, merry Christmas
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Thoroughly enjoyed the video thank you Anthony and Merry Christmas to you and your family and Happy New year.
Take care my friend. Cheers.Lewis
Thanks, you too!
Great video Anthony, only just found out about your channel but glad I’m did!
Awesome, thank you!
Best wishes for a happy Christmas to Anthony and all your subscribers, many thanks for your videos and am looking forward to a New Year sprinkled with your informative and entertaining gems.
Thankyou so much!
I'm enjoying a nice" brandy Nip" while watching this video at home, it's getting colder around the southern US, such an cute video my friend. A very Merry Christmas and fruitful new year to you as well, Full steam ahead!
That sounds nice! It's minus 7 centigrade here at the moment. A tad parky.
Merry Christmas yo you too Anthony and let's hope 2023 will be as successful for you as this year is with your excellent channel. 👍
Thanks, you too!
Great video Anthony realy informative. Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2023..
Same to you!
Happy holidays
Happy holidays!
All the best, and thanks for entertaining and enlightening us throughout the year. Cheers
I vaguely recall that you’ve previously mentioned that a ticket with seat reservation was required on the early Liverpool and Manchester railway. Do you know long did this lasted?
Thanks for making and sharing!
Until 1845 when the L&M ceased to exist. But Guards were able to sell tickets for second-class stopping trains at the intermediate stations, so long as there was space.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Ah, so that was how it worked. Thank you for replying! :)
Happy Holidays and Merry New Year to you and yours. I don't remember the museum, but I assume the last train on the video is a 7 foot gauge line.(edited to put back the missing "7")
@@creamwobbly Ah, missed that. Thank you.
Hi Anthony. Did Dickens mention leaves on the line? A Merry Xmas and all best wishes for thew New Year.
Probably not. But he wasn't a fan of rail travel, especially after the Staplehurst Crash.....
Merry Christmas Anthony. 🎅🎄
What about trains running in Scotland where Xmas Day wasn't declared as a public holiday until 1958?
I haven't a clue!
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Don't tell me you've been stumped?! Never thought that would ever happen. 😮
Hey Anthony, this is kind of un-related, but I was talking with a mate and a question struck me, who actually built the 4 and 6 wheeled coaches for the various railway companies? were they all built in house to different designs, or was their one design patented and sold to the various companies? I only ask because of the wonderful Hattons Genesis coaches being identical apart from livery, and from photos of surviving 4 and 6 wheel coaches today, they are all eerily similar. And I hope you too have a wonderful holiday season!
The Hattons Genesis Coaches are meant to be generic, non descript, applicable to any line but therefore applicable to none because they lack key features of the originals. They're like a combination of features from all the companies and builders.
Carriages were either made "in house" by Company owned carriage & wagon works, such as Wolverton for the LNWR; York for the North Eastern; Stoke for the NSR. Or were made by outside companies such as in the early days Wright of Birmingham; Melling of Manchester or Ashbury Carriage & Wagon of Manchester etc. Ashburys went on to be one of the biggest makers of rolling stock in Britain. Each of these carriage works and outside firms had their own "house style" and you can easily tell an LNWR carriage from an NER or an Ashbury.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory that makes a lot of sense! Thank you for sharing, and have a wonderful holiday
I have a question . Are traction engines with powers wheels at the back considers chramptons?
Thomas Russell Crampton's 1842 patent for was 'improvements in steam-engines and railway-carriages whilst that of 1845 was for 'Locomotive Steam Engines and Railways'. In 1845 the traction engine was know it did not exist: the traction engine is quite a late development thanks the first "Modern" traction engine with all the key features (horizontal locomotive type boiler; over-slung engine; gear drive to the rear wheel; front wheel stear from the tender) came about in 1870. Crampton's patent "safety" locomotive applied to rail vehicles only.
are you certain about those temperatures quoted? -1 to -10 Celsius is not all that cold. More like degrees F. That would be cold.
Before about 1860-ish, (depending on the country), weather records are not always reliable. Local records often exaggerated extremes of heat, cold, wind speed, etc. for the sensation it would bring. But consistent day time temperatures of below freezing sustained for a week are fairly rare in England outside mountainous areas.
Believe me, it was -7 centigrade walking home last night from a friends and it was very very cold. -1 centigrade during th day time is cold. And it was - as the UK is enjoying at present - a sustained frost with it never getting above freezing point by day or night. The lowest recorded temperature was minus 12 celcius in London. It was sufficiently cold for canals and even the Thames to freeze. If large bodies of water and moving water are freezing then it was definitely cold.
@@AnthonyDawsonHistory Having read Dickens I always thought the winters in Europe in those years were much colder (due to volcanic eruptions in Indonesia). Perhaps -10C for extended time does not seem unusual to me as I am in Ontario. Many of our smaller lakes freeze hard enough to walk on, and drive across (some of us cut holes through and fish). The Great Lakes don't freeze over though.
@@anthonyjackson280 Mount Tambora went off in 1815-1816 which caused cooling for a few years around that date, leading to poor harvest and social unrest leading to events like the Peterloo Massacre in 1819. The weather in 1830 had been one of extremes really: exceptionally wet and cold spring and summer followed by a freezing winter with the Thames being frozen and canals frozen up. In the UK -10C for a week is quite unusual. This last ten days it's been -4C to about -1C throughout the day and as low as -10C at night and around dawn. No snow, just very hard frost. Might not be Ontario cold but it's certainly cold for this part of Britain - different of course in Scotland and Wales.