M&P Shield - Watch this video BEFORE you buy one! Also - HOW TO properly rack and lock the slide
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
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THIS WORKS! I'm 63 years old and weight 112 lbs, and the only other way I can get the slide locked is to use an empty magazine. BUT THIS WORKS, also helps to have your hands and arms close to your body. And as AirGunner Bob_O points out in the video, keep pressure up on the slide stop and shove that slide back, don't worry about it catching, if you have pressure up on the stop and you give it a good hard fast shove, IT WILL CATCH and stay open. THANK YOU AIRGUNNER BOB!!!
The older models must have had easier springs. There's no way I can snap mine back.
I just purchased a Shield ez glide and I thought there was something wrong with it. It was me of course! I am almost 70 and after watching your video , I was able to lock the slide back in the first attempt. Thank you!
I have had my 9MM Shield for years, bought it cheap, never shot it and kept it as a safe queen. I wasn't going to keep it till I happened upon this video. The racking and lock back without a mag was nearly impossible. Never heard the slide go metal to metal either.
Bought a new RSA and the difference is like night and day. Very smooth rack and lock back with or without mag. Now I feel more confident and will go to the range and check it out. Thanks so much for this video.
Ken Bigley Good to hear!! You probably had a defective RSA....glad you got a new one!!
I own the 9mm sub version of this. You are correct that it has a very strong recoil spring. When I first got it I was disappointed that it was that strong a spring. I have not had any issues racking it, but using your technique makes it much easier for me. I'm 65, and this is my first EDC subcompact. I've been carrying the 3.6" 9mm Shield, which is much easier to rack. Thanks for the great lesson. I've been shooting for 50 years, and never had a firearm with this much spring tension. It's also somewhat snappy at the range, but I'm still putting the rounds where I want them. Love this little guy
Just got my 380 Shield and wondered if I had the strength to rack & slide, even after watching a few videos. I didn't think I did until seeing your video..You were right--it's in the technique. Thank you so much!
Oh Jesus Mary mother of all, thank you soooo much for this video!!! I have a S&W M&P Shield 9mm and was having a heck of a time getting the slide to lock open! You are so right that hand position is everything. Thank you soooo much!
thanks for the great lesson. I had a problem racking the slide on my new shield. I wish I had seen your video first. I thought the gun was broken.
You’re the only person I’ve seen address this issue. I thought I was doing something wrong. I’m only able to lock the slide back when I have an empty mag in. I’m trying to push up the slide lock and rack back to lock but I still can’t do it. I’m not a weakling either. I bought the gun 7 years ago so it’s a done deal now 😒
Thank you, sir. I just bought one this evening. I was wondering what was going on. This video saved the day.
Thanks for this. I was about to concede I had lost too much hand strength, but the technique works. (60 yo female). I still hope it will get easier to rack with use.
Me too!
PERFECT! I was having problems racking the slide at the range. After watching your video, I got it! Thank you so much!
great info! thanks as I was having trouble with racking it. Its still tuff but its new so thats to be expected..right?
Great vid! Any problems with the recoil spring ? I’ve seen some where spring comes out and wondering if I should get a stainless steel one ... thanks
nice teaching, technique works well.
Wow thanks for sharing,it really works!
So I have had my Shield for about 4 years now and the slide is still so stiff, takes a decent amount of force for me to pull the slide back.
This video helped me so much. Thank you.
thank you , merry Christmas
Thank you 🙏🏽 so much omg 😱 this was Easy
Ive seen this problem on a few different sub compacts that use the captured double recoil spring,.. particularly XD-s and Shields as they're the most common...I have the Shield myself too and I love it, It is harder than others to rack, but thats just the way the double captured spring system is on those ..
+Eric “PoorManPrepper” K You need to rack it back and leave it locked back for a few days. That will loosen up the spring a little. Also rack the slide a bunch. Tight tolerances are not a bad thing at all.
Charlie & snoopy Damn,.. wish I knew that lil trick earlier,..LOL I've had it about two years now and its broken in pretty good now,.. Thanks for the tip though always good to know little tricks like that for the future..
Ok I figured out my problem. I bought my shield manufactured in 2016 shot it twice. Bought 2 extra mags after purchase. My problem was slide was not staying open after last round fired. Apparently I have a bad magazine. With the other 3 magazines, slide locks open when empty. So I guess a new s&w magazine can have a weak or bad spring out of the box. Just fyi if your having an issue and need some advice.
Do you have the original RSA in this shield or is it an aftermarket one?
great video and very informatve, thank you
My shield is extremely extremely hard to rack! Do you have tips? I am small in stature and I hate cleaning this shield
I like your name ! Try racking your slide back ,and leaving it open for a couple weeks ! The same with your mags.,load what u can, & let it set , then u can add a rnd. And within a wk or too add another ! Do not leave mags loaded for long periods of time ! Except for break in period ! A month or so ! Shoot safely !
I had to oil the RSA in order to lock the slide back on mine when it was new.
went to range today shot the 9mm shield and after shooting a couple of mags the slide got stuck all the way back and would not go forward ,had to call the range gun smith, he gave it some oil and after rapid firing it started cycling, I'm used to glocks and I'm losing my faith for EDC with this pistol.
Sir when you started I said to myself wait a minute but your information is good. I have the new plus 3 months ago sweet 👍🏿👍🏿 but please do a video update . For those who donot know THANKS.
Thanks! Good info!
Nice...good job
Thanks
Great way to pinch the shit out of your hand.
I feel sorry for the person you probably tortured when you bought this
Haha
Seriously!
You have to have the magazine out to do it .With an empty magazine in the weapon the slide will lock but not go forward. Obviously a loaded mag will.
I finally figured this out!
Only one thing you should add to your slide racking technique push one hand toward the other makes it that much easier basically same technique try it little bit easier. Have a good one.
Thanks 😊
Well... wish I would have seen this video BEFORE buying my shield. Just brought my new Shield home yesterday and my fingers are now raw from trying to rack this thing. It's almost impossible to get that clank on mine. A quick call to SW customer service and they are sending me a new RSA. Hope it makes a difference.
I hope that takes care of it for you. Too bad people are still dealing with this issue. S&W should have solved it a long time ago.
"A 40 year old guy " 😂😂😂
That's the factory assembly in the video.
my mnp shield slide is super hard to pull back lol brand new gun
You can do it and it will get easier. Watch the video starting at 4:10. Also you can put an empty magazine in the gun and then you don't have to hold up the slide lock lever, the empty magazine does that for you, all you have to do is shove the slide back and it will catch.
I just bought mine new and noticed feels really tough pressing the slide release when releasing the slide from the clear position
+efthimios Because it's not a slide release. It's a slide lock.
My experience, they are tough on pretty much all striker fires pistols. Some more then other. As mentioned, it is a slide lock but can be used to release the slide as well. However, under no circumstances should you release via slide lock without having a loaded magazine inserted (minimum dummy round, live round prefered). It damages the internals and causes premature wear & cracks, leading to breakage. Similar to never dropping the hammer on a unloaded AR15.
Do you have to hit that slide lock downward
to get the slide to come back forward?
That's one way. The other way is to just pull the slide back and release......the catch will drop automatically unless you have an empty mag in place.
Never heard of this issue.
Most popular carry gun sold.
I have 9 & 40 no issues.
bgfishing if you Google "Shield RSA" or visit a forum, you'll see more than you expect.
I never had a problem with mine.
Many including myself have trouble racking the Shield slide. This information helps greatly.
Smith and Wesson sent me a new spring, that improved the ability to rack back.
I'm having the same problem. How did you get Smith and Wesson to send you another one?
@@rustypugh123 I sent them an email describing the problem.
@@mgarc1960 thanks. What is the difference between the spring originally in the gun, and the new one they sent you?
@@rustypugh123 It wasn't as stiff as the original.
@@mgarc1960 thanks
Not really working for me. I didn't know about this problem 2 days ago when I bought it, and my hands are bruised from trying to lock it back. I'm going to leave it locked back until next weekend, hope that loosens it up enough. Right now it's pretty useless to me. Total loss of $330.
Jane Harper there's slide rackers that they sell that replace the slide plate. Not sure if that'll be good enough of a fix fo you but it's an option.
Update?🤔
I got an idea. It's pretty little bit easier. Just put an empty magazine in and all you got to do is rack it back. I need to lock itself back. You don't have to push up on nothing
I have a couple XD 9mm and didn't have a problem locking the slide back. I just won a Shield 9mm and watched your video and I cannot lock the slide back even after watching your video :( HELP!
Sounds like the recoil spring assembly might be defective. I wonder if you got an early Shield?
Why would you think the pistol wouldnt rack properly?
Have you had problems with yours?
No, but lots others have....check out the Smith and Wesson forums.
Racking back a slide is easy. All you do is shoot a couple rounds and let the last round hold open do the work .
You didn't mention how to slide it back and what one must do with the little stopper.
If you pinched your hand, then you did it wrong.
Is this still a problem made with these guns..
Yes, they have not addressed the problem with the recoil spring assembly. Apparently the failure rate is within acceptable levels. People are still reporting problems with them.
I like to use an empty magazine. Yeah, I'm that lazy.
good video.
Thank you, just trying to help people get a pistol without any problems. Most just buy blindly or don't inspect it before they pay and bring home a pistol with issues.
they are a little specific. I like Berrettas better.
I'm 72 and have never had a problem
I'm pretty disappointed after ready great review after great review. This is supposed to be a carry gun. Yet it takes so much force to rack it back, I'd be dead 5 times over. I'm also 6'2' 225 and I have a hell of a time. My wife can't move it an inch. I watch others take their thumb and forefinger and have no problem at all. I have 2 other M&P and they are a ease to work. What's up should I return it? It's no good to me now and I can't see it getting better with use if I can't use it to begin with.
I'd be a fool to carry this pistol as it is now. I suppose it's time to call Smith and Wesson. I'd prefer a complete new one. I've not fired a round yet.
David Soom If it takes as much force as you've described, I'd say maybe the recoil spring assembly is bunched up in some way. Considering you're not a new shooter, you have two M&Ps already so you're already familiar with the operation, there could be something wrong. Are you able to field strip the Shield?
Thanks for your reply. Yes something is definitely wrong and I'm frustrated to the extent that I don't want to do anything so as to make whatever is wrong someway my fault. So I thought I'd send it back without field stripping it and causing a further problem. I'll let some time pass and calm down a bit. I was just so anxious to get this gun everyone was raving about. You know how the" ape" gets frustrated and then aggressive. ha ha.
David Soom No worries.....the Shield was plagued with recoil spring assembly problems, which was why I made the video.
It makes me think that someone at the factory had done it intentionally. I've worked at assembly line jobs before and I know of the frustration and I've read where factory workers at the major auto companies in Detroit in the 60's intentionally would mark a car to be a lemon and workers, so inclined, to do such would do their part to screw up said marked car. Perhaps it's an urban myth but it sounds real to me and there were a lot of lemon cars back then. Lets hope that the fine people of Smith and Wesson aren't doing that but I can't imagine how the spring could have gotten that way by accident. Who knows, problem is solved, I took your advice and broke the gun down and discovered the problem. I almost was afraid to do anything before I returned it thinking I might be blamed for the problem myself. I'll enjoy the gun and await the nice
$75 rebate. What do you think is going on, do you think they are going to come out with a Sheild 2.0?
Thanks again for you advice
Dave
David Soom I can't think of anything they could do to change that much on it. Its a nice gun for sure.
what is the point of this video...I am not understanding why you made this video. just put a empty mag in and pull the slide back if you want to lock it but dont have the dexterity...
Dude... Dude. Thank you.
The point is that a fair amount of Shields have a defective recoil spring right out of the box. People buy these without knowing it only to get home and find that the slide won't go back all the way. Then they're stuck sending the gun back to S&W or waiting for S&W to send them a new RSA. Have a look on the forums or do a google search and you'll see how widespread this problem is.
Definitely not the best trigger, but far from the worst. ;-)
AirGunner Bob_O I have the performance center version. The trigger is fucking sweet.
You Must Know some srtong 10 year olds...
Wouldn't locking slide all way back do same thing
No. Because it's possible to lock the slide without reaching the extent of travel. It's only by making sure it can go fully to the rear that you know you don't have a defective recoil spring assembly.
@@BullseyeBob well I have a m&p45 shield otw hope its good I don't get them problems is there a after market upgrade
@@deezknots2452 Lots of people had problems with them early one....there was a rash of defective RSA's. People weren't checking their pistols at the time of purchase only to get home and find it to be defective. It's all over the gun forums. The other problem people had was racking the slide. That's all this video was about.
It's called break in period... and don't be a wimp it's really not hard.
EXACTLY , the recoil spring/ slide rails needs to be broken in...
Bueller, Bueller...?
this gun is just as easy as any other gun, I don't know if you're trolling use or what, but looking at your thumbs down to thumbs up ratio, I think you're trolling. I added to the thumbs-down.
Who cares? You like many others missed the whole point of the video. Early Shields were plagued with defective recoil spring assemblies making them impossible to rack. Do some research.
Trigger sucks on the shield.
cutnsidewayz that tells me you never shot a decent one
cutnsidewayz Taurus G2 has a better trigger. I have 1000 rounds through both of them. Sig p320sc. much better trigger.
cutnsidewayz your buddy
I traded in the Taurus PT111 G2 for a shield. The trigger was 8lbs! You can't have it lightened by a gun smith or yourself because you will void the warrenty, and you can't send it back to have it lightened because if it's with in 4-9 lbs they will just send it back and they don't even pay for shipping to or from. I shot 6 rounds through my shield and INSTANTLY loved it. I put 150 through the G2 and hated it simply because of the trigger.
Faith mine is 5-6lbs
Your technique is nothing new. If you read carefully the instructions, it explains that same technique how to lock the slide back WITHOUT MAGAZINE. Obviously if you have an empty magazine in the pistol, the slide will lock back without no problem. So that is absolutely no issue.
You apparently missed the point. The issue is with a defective recoil spring assembly that won't allow for the slide to travel the full length it needs. It's well addressed on gun forums when the shield was a new release.
Don't believe this guy, it's nobody's technique, smith came out with the EZ pistols after the shields came out. This was for a reason. Don't buy a shield, if you have one and it's to hard to rack, sell or trade it. I've been shooting over 50 years, never saw such a crap recoil system on any other firearm.
Super waste of my time