FOR WHAT IS A MANN, WHAT HAS HE GOT? IF NOT HIS PANTS, THEN HE HAS NAUGHT! TO WEAR THE THINGS, HE TRULY FEELS AND NOT THE PANTS OF ONE WHO KNEELS THE RECORD SHOWS, SCOUT TOOK THE BLOWS AND DID IT THE MANN WAY
They were never meant to be blue. They were changed back for a reason, shaunic not comprehending this reason doesnt meant they should be blue. Pants for scout are major silloute clue, they were made bright gray regardless of team the same way as Heavy's and sniper's vest or femomans blast armour is. Dark pants are even worse than black painted breakeneck baggies in terms of how unreadable they get in darker maps. Artist didnt forget to turn off the layer, he copied over the red acout pants u purpose and forgot about the hoops. Its completely other way around from bs shaunic said.
They were never meant to be blue in final game. it's your idea of why it was unticked. The actual reason might have been the exact opposite, THEY INTENTIONALLY UNTICKED IT, because it looked wrong to them back then. Your silly remark in the leak video undone the intetional _undoing_ of the blue style for the pants, specificly because of far worse readability in darker maps and lighting. For the same reason that the hat or the bag dont change colours for the other team, or Heavies and Sniper's vests, Demomans blast plate armour dont either. Scout has already one gigantic team coloured bit of clothing, far bigger than any other class except for maybe Spy's suit. Unlike all other classes his Pants are also bigger part of his model and brighter texture was more important for visiblity in comparison to other classes, unlike most other classes that either have longer sleeved clothing or are in general featuring far more visible items(Engineers yellow hardhat in default tf2) that make up for this. Scout hardly has that while already featuring a bit much of dark gray items. Brighter gray shade for the pants seems more like concious decision to make up for it after they saw blue pants make it worse in practice. Granted we have many items that make it far worse like breakneck baggies and alike, but default scout was meant to be more visible for it anyway, and shaunics silly video making someone with zero knowledge from 2006/2007 development to just cave in to your video and people reposting it doesnt mean it was ever meant to be that way at all. Besides Scout is an exception and not the only one. Heavy's ans Snioers Vests are equally as large oarts of the model as his pants are ane they are also bright gray regardless of the team.
If that was the case, then why did they finally change the color of the pants? The only reason they reverted it back was because it "clashed with too many cosmetics" they never mention visibility issues.
@@TheBrawlUnitNot gonna pick sides here but that's wrong. The "interview" with Eric Smith says that "People seem to come and go on the TF2 team, but it is generally pretty small these days."
@@MortStrudel Theybare not weird. Theybare bright gray and same on both teams for same reason heavies and sniper's vests are. Its major visual element to draw your eye, even more on scout as he is always hunched over and legs are bordring on beint almost morw than 50% of what you see in many situations.
Blue pants are essentially some "cutting room floor" beta content. The game released with brown pants, and stayed with brown pants. Some leak revealed they were almost blue. Doesn't even mean it was a mistake. No one even bothers to answer *why* the pants are on a different layer from the rest of the team colors. Clearly they were intentionally experimenting with choosing which pants color to use. And its ridiculously far fetched to say that the team really didn't notice the pants were "wrong" on release. It's possible the pants were brown on purpose, and they forgot the portrait and belt loops. The change to brown was probably late in pre-release development. The PS3 port was being done by EA, and the change wasn't communicated to them in time (or at all).
They were never meant to be blue. They were changed back for a reason, shaunic not comprehending this reason doesnt meant they should be blue. Pants for scout are major silloute clue, they were made bright gray regardless of team the same way as Heavy's and sniper's vest or femomans blast armour is. Dark pants are even worse than black painted breakeneck baggies in terms of how unreadable they get in darker maps. Artist didnt forget to turn off the layer, he copied over the red acout pants u purpose and forgot about the hoops. Its completely other way around from bs shaunic said.
@@captain3413 So? Shaunic spread bs and his idea that it was some mistake on Valve's part when it clearly isnt. PS3 version is deprecated and has tons of beta tf2 stuff left in, includimg bog ammp pool for soldier and dmeo and 6 pipe nade launcher. Retail pc tf2 doesnt as its newer ergo it was an intentional and latter change. The mistake are the blue belthoops and leftover 2d player icons same with beta Spy icon and beta emblem demoman icon.
True. Shaunic also was talking out of his ass, making it seem like Valve made a mistake. The mistake isnt the bright brown pants, but them leaving the hoops in. PS3 version of the game has beta class icons, 6 pipes grenade laucnher and too much resrve ammo on both soldier and demo. They turned the pants bright brown for a reason in 2007. Also scout isnt the only exception to have same bright gray clothing as hevay and snioer have same exact vests in similar broght earthy shade of gray regardless of team and these are also very big part of their models. As for original intention it was definetly for sake of visibility/readability. Blue pants are even darker tha breakneck baggies with blakc paint.
@@Kacpa2 in the postal 3 leak which shows june 2007 tf2 blue scout has blue pants, but also red scout has blue pants. Valve always make mistakes, they have never fixed the beta uber or beta gib textures/gib models.
FOR WHAT IS A MANN, WHAT HAS HE GOT?
IF NOT HIS PANTS, THEN HE HAS NAUGHT!
TO WEAR THE THINGS, HE TRULY FEELS
AND NOT THE PANTS OF ONE WHO KNEELS
THE RECORD SHOWS, SCOUT TOOK THE BLOWS
AND DID IT THE MANN WAY
No blue pant me sad
We got possibly THE best update in nearly years, and then it's ripped away from us in a day :(
wait what?
EDIT: They DID, they reverted it! I mean fair, but still bruh
It legit looked so worse
They were never meant to be blue. They were changed back for a reason, shaunic not comprehending this reason doesnt meant they should be blue. Pants for scout are major silloute clue, they were made bright gray regardless of team the same way as Heavy's and sniper's vest or femomans blast armour is. Dark pants are even worse than black painted breakeneck baggies in terms of how unreadable they get in darker maps.
Artist didnt forget to turn off the layer, he copied over the red acout pants u purpose and forgot about the hoops. Its completely other way around from bs shaunic said.
@@Kacpa2 And the source of all of this information is...?
1:45:41 the pootis peenix incident
4 dead
it was my favorite cosmetic before it got removed in the heavy update in 1974
BRING BACK MY GOAT, CHANGE THE DAMN COMMUNITY COSMETICS
what if we give red scout blue pants?
RIP pants
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They were never meant to be blue in final game. it's your idea of why it was unticked. The actual reason might have been the exact opposite, THEY INTENTIONALLY UNTICKED IT, because it looked wrong to them back then. Your silly remark in the leak video undone the intetional _undoing_ of the blue style for the pants, specificly because of far worse readability in darker maps and lighting.
For the same reason that the hat or the bag dont change colours for the other team, or Heavies and Sniper's vests, Demomans blast plate armour dont either. Scout has already one gigantic team coloured bit of clothing, far bigger than any other class except for maybe Spy's suit.
Unlike all other classes his Pants are also bigger part of his model and brighter texture was more important for visiblity in comparison to other classes, unlike most other classes that either have longer sleeved clothing or are in general featuring far more visible items(Engineers yellow hardhat in default tf2) that make up for this. Scout hardly has that while already featuring a bit much of dark gray items. Brighter gray shade for the pants seems more like concious decision to make up for it after they saw blue pants make it worse in practice.
Granted we have many items that make it far worse like breakneck baggies and alike, but default scout was meant to be more visible for it anyway, and shaunics silly video making someone with zero knowledge from 2006/2007 development to just cave in to your video and people reposting it doesnt mean it was ever meant to be that way at all.
Besides Scout is an exception and not the only one. Heavy's ans Snioers Vests are equally as large oarts of the model as his pants are ane they are also bright gray regardless of the team.
If that was the case, then why did they finally change the color of the pants? The only reason they reverted it back was because it "clashed with too many cosmetics" they never mention visibility issues.
@Leymora "they", you mean one guy, that wasn't involved with making the character designs of the game.
@@TheBrawlUnit Show me your proof then
@Leymora It's common knowledge that TF2 nowadays is being maintained by just 1 guy, Eric Smith, and he's a software developer, not a designer.
@@TheBrawlUnitNot gonna pick sides here but that's wrong. The "interview" with Eric Smith says that "People seem to come and go on the TF2 team, but it is generally pretty small these days."
honestly i feel like it shouldnt be changed at this point. Just too used the wrong pants...
blu scout's weird pants are effectively canon at this point
@@MortStrudel Theybare not weird. Theybare bright gray and same on both teams for same reason heavies and sniper's vests are. Its major visual element to draw your eye, even more on scout as he is always hunched over and legs are bordring on beint almost morw than 50% of what you see in many situations.
Blue pants are essentially some "cutting room floor" beta content.
The game released with brown pants, and stayed with brown pants. Some leak revealed they were almost blue. Doesn't even mean it was a mistake. No one even bothers to answer *why* the pants are on a different layer from the rest of the team colors. Clearly they were intentionally experimenting with choosing which pants color to use. And its ridiculously far fetched to say that the team really didn't notice the pants were "wrong" on release.
It's possible the pants were brown on purpose, and they forgot the portrait and belt loops.
The change to brown was probably late in pre-release development. The PS3 port was being done by EA, and the change wasn't communicated to them in time (or at all).
They were never meant to be blue. They were changed back for a reason, shaunic not comprehending this reason doesnt meant they should be blue. Pants for scout are major silloute clue, they were made bright gray regardless of team the same way as Heavy's and sniper's vest or femomans blast armour is. Dark pants are even worse than black painted breakeneck baggies in terms of how unreadable they get in darker maps.
Artist didnt forget to turn off the layer, he copied over the red acout pants u purpose and forgot about the hoops. Its completely other way around from bs shaunic said.
Noname speaking
@@captain3413 So? Shaunic spread bs and his idea that it was some mistake on Valve's part when it clearly isnt. PS3 version is deprecated and has tons of beta tf2 stuff left in, includimg bog ammp pool for soldier and dmeo and 6 pipe nade launcher. Retail pc tf2 doesnt as its newer ergo it was an intentional and latter change.
The mistake are the blue belthoops and leftover 2d player icons same with beta Spy icon and beta emblem demoman icon.
@@Kacpa2 who
@Kacpa2 @captain3413 FIGHT!! FIGHT!! FIGHT!! FIGHT!!
@@RaposaCadela omg xD
OG PANTS ARE BETTER , not new
True. Shaunic also was talking out of his ass, making it seem like Valve made a mistake.
The mistake isnt the bright brown pants, but them leaving the hoops in. PS3 version of the game has beta class icons, 6 pipes grenade laucnher and too much resrve ammo on both soldier and demo.
They turned the pants bright brown for a reason in 2007.
Also scout isnt the only exception to have same bright gray clothing as hevay and snioer have same exact vests in similar broght earthy shade of gray regardless of team and these are also very big part of their models.
As for original intention it was definetly for sake of visibility/readability. Blue pants are even darker tha breakneck baggies with blakc paint.
@@Kacpa2 in the postal 3 leak which shows june 2007 tf2 blue scout has blue pants, but also red scout has blue pants. Valve always make mistakes, they have never fixed the beta uber or beta gib textures/gib models.
smell the ball
Imagine when game is managed so poorly that simple change of color of scout pants create so much fuss #bringBackQuickplay