Wooden Full Extension Drawer Slides Experiment
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- I have a few more refinements to do with it, but I'm very impressed with how well these work even in this fairly rough state. A coat or two of water based poly would really make them slick, I think.
When I mention the metal slides price I got at wholesale, that was for a pair of slides 22" long. I bought several for shop projects and my new kitchen cabinets.
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I have a few more refinements to do with it, but I'm very impressed with how well these work even in this fairly rough state. A coat or two of water based poly would really make them slick, I think.
When I mention the metal slides price I got at wholesale, that was for a pair of slides 22" long. I bought several for shop projects and my new kitchen cabinets.
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at the top and bottom of the slide there is a lot free space left. since you are custom-building those anyway, why don't you feel it up to the top and bottom of your drawer? that would make for a beefier slide.
One could also probably figure out a way to integrate that kind of a slide into the frame of a cabinet. I would imagine it to be quite labour intensive and inefficient to do, though.
Super cool, John!
Do you think that could work with just a rectangular piece of wood running in symmetric grooves in the drawer and sides of the cabinet (routed)? of course with some kind of stops. I mean, don't do the T slot, and use the cabinet sides and drawer sides as rails for the middle piece. Oversimplify, cheapen to the max. Could you do a follow up to this to try that? Pretty please? Thanks!
na rc- no need to follow up, the tee slot is needed, otherwise the slider in the middle will come out of the track.
I Build It yeah, but i wanted more videos from you :) thanks!
Thank you John!
Perfect solution.
In Brazil we have very hard woods that will work perfectly and last for centuries.
When there were still no metal slides I wrapped the wooden slats with melaminic laminate (formica) that will outlast the furniture I made. And the slip was too soft. (Translation by Google)
I watch your videos with some regularity, always with great interest; your workshop is something to behold with all the homemade equipment and its neatness.
The part that impresses me most is you modesty: I hear you saying often that this or that appliance - you say it here of the tablesaw fence..."works really well" . I state unequivocally that, all of these do work so well because you have made them, were they made by less skillful hands they would not; thank you very much for all your interesting, inspiring work. Cheers.
Took me 3 years to find this video awesome project thanks John.
The sound is very satisfying too!
Great idea. Thank you for making one for the viewers. From Mauritius.
OLD video which has not been deleted by YT ..... yet. Very nice, I was trying to solve this problem for a desk build which I have in work. Thanks for sharing!
The click-clack sound from the parts while opening and closing (from 07:00 on) was oddly satisfying!! Cool project!
I'll get flak for this, but sounds like stuff in minecraft.
really like this one John
This is something really useful- Good full-extension slides are $$$$ - intead, turn scrap into drawer slides for shop cabinets and etc. Great job!
You must be the only guy on YT showing us this! Thank you!
Excellent design and execution.
You should have Matthias jump on it to test it!
Thanks, but I'm not letting Matthias break this :)
Nice design and execution. A couple of months back I made a set out of oak with double dovetails for heavy duty use. With paste wax they slide easily. I set them in a cabinet to support a flip-top table, which has a Rigid oscillating sander on one side and a grinder on the other side.
Perhaps most impressive Heiszvention we've seen thus far.
And that's saying something. Brilliant!
Great job in full explanation of the project. I really appreciate the lighting in you shop, it steps up the production quality quite a bit. Keep up the good work
You have the neatest scrap 'closet' I have ever seen, John. Want to visit sunny warm San Diego this winter? Guarantee we'll have plenty of projects!
Nice work. Your work with the algorithm is working. This video just showed up in my general suggested videos. First time any of your "older" videos have been suggest in quite some time.
Thanks for taking the time to do the design and build.
Great video. Sir, your work is an inspiration for mere mortals like me. Keep on helping the rest of us!
wOW... jUST Wow. I've been watching woodworking projects for a long time and after all these years...... This is the first one covering this topic that I have seen. I'd give ya a bunch of thumbs up if I could.
This is the first video I've seen too. But it's not the first example I've seen..I had an old 1940's buffet table that had similar design on drawers, and on antique table that had slides to open for leaf. No knock to john.
I sure do like your videos. Always something cool. And thanks for giving me idea #325 for my new shop!!
I can't explain why, but it makes perfect sense to me to use two different species of wood. Mainly because they will be two different hardnesses, and something about that just makes sense. That's how bushings work.
I would think it could also be because different woods expand and contrast differently, keeping the slides from jamming up.
I grew up in a wood shop- you sir remind me of my uncle there. My first comment because this is the crazy stuff I think it as well. So thank you because I have a kid on the way and the wife wants the closet redone... Here we go
You never cease to amaze me John! Great job!
I'm impressed. Very clever John.
I think these slides work even better than "regular" wooden slides as these have always at least 50% coverage. Very good idea and nicely done.
That would look nice on something like a coffee table, where a metal slide would look out of place and these would add something to the design. Plus, they sound great.
Look forward to seeing some of those incorporated into the nightstands you will be building. Nice little build.
John That's a beauty!!! Great work 👏
Those are just plain perfect! Very nice work and design John!
Geez, how come it's taken me so long to subscribe? Keep coming back to your channel. Well, easy enough to remedy that. Done!
Fascinating build and video! Thanks a lot, John!
About as clever as it gets and right out of the scrap bin too!
They work great and look a lot nicer.
I made some drawers which were 3/4 as deep as my desk. The sides extend the full depth. So when you pull the drawer out, it looks like full extension. The depth is nice, and there isn't an issue of items being hidden. For the slides, I used zero friction tape on the top and bottom. They're perfect.
Thank you for this vid. Almost positive you are referring to my comment. The cost is indeed what was my concern. I have not found commercial drawer slides for cheaper than fifteen bucks, but usually closer to 20. The application I was looking at was for my girlfriend's potting shed. Not a super heavy use drawer. I have access to tons of small/scrap wood and I am not concerned about having to remake and replace pieces later on. Again, thanks for the video, exactly what I was looking for.
This is awesome, tnx Mr. Heisz, can't wait to try them out with rock solid hard wood, and also one made out of plywood with nylon strips in between lubricated with sillicon high friction grease. Tnx for sharing it!!
Very cool John! Nice design and experiment.
This is exactly what I'm looking for to support my under-desk computer. The new desk area is going to be clutter free and if the PC can be put under the desktop, then a drawer mechanism like this will enable easy access for maintenance without the need for awkward lifting. 👍
You, my friend, are a STUD! Thanks for the great content!
Funny how these things work out.I was trying to design wooden drawer slides and Voila! Thank you so much for this idea. Mine will have to be a little stronger, maybe increase the thickness of som of the pieces, but all in all, great project! Thannkz
Thanks for the walk through, inspiring, and true about sketching prior....I plan my projects out, and use Adobe Illustrator...same thing holds true, it may look good on paper & computer, but reality yields hidden truths too...Great stuff!
👍👍👍 Fantastisch, ich bin sprachlos. Fantastic, I'm speechless. 👍👍👍
I want to try this. Love your experiment builds.
Really cool, John. I love how you're always finding these projects to make, keep it up!
I really like this project!
Bookcases, chests and desks all used wooden runners / dado configurations, 100-200 years later they're still working! Go figure, right? Some fancy concealed runners these days fetch in the region of $40-50 dollars a pair! Interesting vid!
just came across this today, very impressive. good job
Had a quick look for the double drawer slide plans - couldn't find them. Help! Thanks.
do you expect to have plans for these once the "refinements" are made???
in Germany for the "Meisterprüfung" you must craft a full extension slide it is part of the exam and must be used in the project, we build the full extension slide with dovetails
Excellent Job.. Thanks for sharing Sir!
Very handy video. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼😊
Great idea as always John. Thanks.
that turned out awesome
Very ingenious, John. And timely. I'm slowly building a shop in my basement, and originally imagined many drawer cabinets with full length slides. When I priced the slides, "#%#^%^^%!!!"!!!!!
So, I started wondering if I could make some slides, but had no idea how to go about it. I think I really want to try this, and if you decide to post plans, it's certainly worth buying. Thanks
This is BRILLIANT!
Seems far better than the clunky old drawers we had when the Box Brownie was the fashionable camera. They lasted all my childhood, so your design is sure to last even longer, since they'd get much less wear per opening.
Really great idea john.. When first seeing the video title I was a bit skeptical. But after seeing the finished project you've got me wanting to try this technique.
Thanks for the idea man! Gotta give this a try myself.
Very nice. I really like the stuff you make but never comment So I thought I would jump in and say well done. I don't have a specific use for this right now, but it gets me thinking about creative shop made solutions for other challenges and I'll have this option in the back of my head for the future. Keep up the good work sir
most home shop slides were made from wood in the recent past. Great work!
That looks awesome!!!
Nice idea. I like the all-wood solution that could really be made with scraps. I'm sure you've already thought about it (maybe for version 2) but the side pieces that attach to the cabinet could be mounted to a piece of 1/4" plywood. That might make them easier to install. Plus you could add the stops to it.
As always, great video!
I saw this when it first came out but I'm revisiting the idea of trying to build a set of these just for practice and because I'm having trouble finding slides that are a very specific size for a small tool cabinet.
Clever stuff - very impressive. Thanks for the video!
John. This is fantastic. Please upload the sketchup file to your website. Would love to build these.
Which plan do you include in this slideway design? I want to buy it. This plan will save some money.
Try some Slip-It sliding compound on the drawer slides. I use it when I repair antique furniture. It makes the drawers slide so easy....
Quite the success, in my humble view.
You are a boss. I want all of your knowledge
THAT is cool.... thanks, John
04:20 "If you've gotta piece of shit fence..." LOL
Good thing for you I'm watching on my iPad this morning while drinking my coffee, John... otherwise you'd owe me a keyboard! GOOD STUFF!
That's pretty slick!
I can't find the plans on your site? For the drawers
I was glad to see you use a hand screwdriver to put the screws in. I firmly believe that there are as many unplanned families as there are stripped out screw hole from guys who refuse to use the clutch and brag that they can always stop in time.
cool!smile face at 6:39 :)
Wow I was totally impressed. Can wait to see your future uploads. I’m currently struggling with how to make a simpler version of a hidden folding slide rail for a cabinet if you have any insight I’d appreciate it . Thanks in advance. 😊
Hey John, well thought out!
I always thought this would work, even mentioned it to Mathias awhile ago, and he suggested that they would probably lack durability. Seems like with a good lube these could last a long time. It also seems like if you could reduce the part count so they held more together prior to installation, these would be a great alternative to steel. In my head I was thinking the inner slide could be made as part of the actual drawer... Anyway, good idea + great execution = creative as always, Thx.
Awesome work man
I need to make a sliding shelf for the coffee machine that is going to be just above the microwave that is also going to be on a crafted shelf.. I was thinking of doing what you did. Thanks.
Another great idea. Are you in a humid climate? Would like to see if they are effected by humidity.
I know when someone is making a dining room table you can purchase slides out of wood that allow leaves to be inserted. Are these similar to extension (maybe not full extension) slide? And, would these work on say a large drawer for under the bed?
This has been done for centuries. You may find those most often underneath expanding tables as a guide for the two halfes.
Use hard wood with fine pores. Oak is the worst. The oak pores will catch dust and wear out in no time. My Experience is that even spruce works better than oak. Here we use beech, but hard maple is wonderful for that.
Just wax them (even with a candle). Water based poly (and all stuff like this) will melt as you move it with some higher load and than it sticks really.
You know what else they've been doing for centuries? Nearly everything you'll ever see in a woodworking video on UA-cam.
Yup! What a traditionally well thought out trade that is. Still indispensable.
Your comment was spot on about the expanding table guides. I'm surprised you took the I Build It comment so well.
I Build It True, John - at least to some extent. I thought I'd found some really cool ideas on YT... French cleat stuff, wedge clamping, build-out clamp storage, and on and on... but last night I was sitting in bed reading the Home Workshop book from a nice Time-Life Woodworking book series I have from the late 80s-early 90s - and ALL of those things, plus many more, are in those books. They've been sitting in a box, and now on on a shelf in the basement for 25 years, silently waiting for me to pick them up and actually read them.
But, YT just makes things more accessible, and (good) videos like yours really bring things to life. I love reading - but I hadn't been in those books since shortly after I got them way back when. I'm going to go back and go through them all now - but I'll still be watching lots of YT vids.
@@kencarp57, Just because these ideas have been around a while...doesn't make them less cool, in my opinion. Tried and true because they're great!
Fantastic for nice custom furniture but for every day stuff between price of wood and time ? Enjoy your videos you make really nice and interesting things
I'm in the process of upgrading my shop, and an abundance of drawers are next on the list, just curious if you ever thought of doing a comparison video on the metal vs. wood drawer slides. I know the investment of metal slides would be long lasting but a touch of handmade is always good! I'm just curious on weight, 16-20 inch slides etc.
Thanks,
Hayden
it's a great idea. I would suggest that for fast reproduction you should make a mold of original pieces and cast them in shockproof resin. You could make a bunch of copies in a short time wit high precision and stronger than any wood.
What you think about it? A fan from Italy ;)
I like your idea
very nice job....
Interesting.. a good result.. better than I anticipated. Nice one. :o)
very nice indeed, gonna implement these into a new shop cabinet i have started, hate to buy those drawer guides $27 each were i live
Works good John. How about one of your over time auto tests?
Would there be any concern of the expansion in the wood, or are the tolerances not tight enough to worry about?
The click noise it makes as it opens and closes is very satisfying lol
John I've watched this video many times, hoping that I'll find where the plans are. Would be kind enough to let me know where I can get plans for this project? Thank you for all the great material you put out.
Awesome John!!! I was thinking about doing this around christmas time but to use double dovetails so the center runner would be hourglassed. Been too cold in the garage for me to try it out yet, so thanks for doing the footwork for me. Now I just wonder how it would wear/last?
Very cool experiment, definitely would like to know how much weight it would hold, thanks for sharing keep up the great work!
The design looks good, but I think the biggest challenge is in finding ways to manufacture and install them quickly. If it adds an extra 30-45 minutes per slide to the project, and isn't as strong, durable or smooth as metal slides, then the cost savings may be hard to justify. I think if part of the slide can be milled directly into the drawer sides and the other components made in contrasting woods, then you have a good opportunity to add visual interest and something unique to the project.
I have my 26 lb miter saw on a 26 inch slide out tray that slides back into a cabinet when not in use.
Full extension metal slides work, sort of. However sawdust is turning out to be the mortal enemy of ball bearings.
Do you think 26 inch full extension wood slides would work with a load of 26 lbs ?
Thank you.
John, have you ever tried a product called Waxlit? It also works well to release glue buildup and cleans up with alcohol.