(64 yr old) Did Swedish military invent the best winter boot?

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  • @RoseAnvil
    @RoseAnvil  Рік тому +16

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    • @stevenroche9874
      @stevenroche9874 Рік тому

      Thank you, Weston, for being enjoyable to watch again ! Like you used to be back in the day.

    • @KarlKarsnark
      @KarlKarsnark Рік тому +1

      That guy in your thumbnail doesn't look very "Swedish" to me. Now, does he? You should really fix that. You really should.

    • @johncorder2912
      @johncorder2912 Рік тому +2

      I don’t feel like these vs jungle boots is very fair as they are each designed for entirely different environments. I think a more fair comparison would be American Mickey Mouse boots.

    • @philosoaper
      @philosoaper Рік тому +2

      It's very different from the standard M77 boot from the Norwegian military.. which to be honest is pretty close to Sweden if you look at the geography..

    • @rocketman1058
      @rocketman1058 9 місяців тому +1

      how did the middle east mujaheds became part of swedish military? since when sweden is a brown country?

  • @fishbiscuit2000
    @fishbiscuit2000 Рік тому +142

    Look at Lundhags boots. They're a modern versions of this type of boot made in Sweden. I have a pair that saw service in the Falklands. They've been re-soled three times since then and are still going strong. Living in the North of Scotland our weather and terrain is very similar to that of both Sweden and the Falklands. In my opinion Lundhags are pretty much one of the best designs for this kind of terrain, especially their original unlined ones. I wouldn't be surprised if Lundhags made the Swedish army boots in this video.

    • @mike2228
      @mike2228 Рік тому +6

      Pretty sure they are Tretorn in the video. Tretorn made a bunch of Swedish military boots

    • @POSYPANO
      @POSYPANO 11 місяців тому

      I have this lundhags shoes and I think they will last the rest of my life. I recommend testing them on this channel more hard And new model

    • @Macovic
      @Macovic 9 місяців тому +1

      Tretorn also has made the kind of boots you see in Lundhags, Graninge, Jörn and other

    • @patrickfridrichovsky3909
      @patrickfridrichovsky3909 4 місяці тому +1

      Tretorn is not producing these boots anymore. Some modern alterations are made by Lundhags but not in this classic style!

  • @janbrittenson210
    @janbrittenson210 Рік тому +75

    The rubber M59 was rigid in part for use with skis in winter. When I did my Swedish military service in the mid 80s we were issued one pair of rubber M59 boots and one pair made of thinner summer leather, but otherwise the same boot. We wore the rubber ones only rarely in winter, and this wasn't far below the arctic circle. I don't know if they would ever really break in, but they were extremely uncomfortable with hard seams and pressure points, so required heavy socks for padding, which in turn made them impossible to wear most of the time no matter how wet and muddy it was. Definitely felt like an outdated design even in the 80s and my bony feet hated them. The thinner summer version however was a nice boot!

    • @ehsnils
      @ehsnils Рік тому +3

      I also got a pair of them when I did my military service, but I never used them, just feeling how inflexible they were made me avoid them.

    • @Styvistan
      @Styvistan Рік тому +3

      The all-leather version was the standard as I recall it, with the rubberized version intended for use in wet conditions and CBN.

    • @Hans_Strandberg
      @Hans_Strandberg Рік тому +3

      I can tell you they were used in the summer as well. I did my military service at Swedish Ranger Regiment K3 in Karlsborg in the southern part of Sweden. During basic military training we wore these boots and did so during summer and doing a lot of marching in them. One week called the wilderness week we marched at least 120 km in those boots. Eventually they broke is and was ok to use. After basic notary trading we were allowed to switch them to privately purchased boots and I came to use my Lundhags Alaska which shared similar design but being much softer.

    • @mike2228
      @mike2228 Рік тому +1

      I absolutely love my summer version. I wear them as my winter boots and hunting boots.

    • @ronchabale
      @ronchabale 3 місяці тому

      Yes the "sommarkänga" was more comfortable however I think you probably got a bad pair of winter boots, I don´t remember much discomfort apart from the weight

  • @svanteuller7928
    @svanteuller7928 Рік тому +19

    As others have pointed out, they were intended for wet conditions, not winter cold. During winter we used the usual leather m/59 boot. For units in far north there were also special winter boots in store.

  • @noelbohlin3283
    @noelbohlin3283 Рік тому +165

    It looks quite close to the design of the legendary Swedish Lundhags boot brand. They make handmade boots with a rubber bottom like this one

    • @antonengstroem1999
      @antonengstroem1999 Рік тому +15

      Lundhags were one of the suppliers to the military and continued production with their own design when their military contract ended

    • @albinlinde3399
      @albinlinde3399 Рік тому +6

      was about to write that, these are probably inspired by Lundhags.

    • @menjavlafitta
      @menjavlafitta Рік тому +1

      Yeah Lundhags still makes them, I have two pairs. One is 15 years old, very well used and still does the job.
      Graninge also makes this rubberduck-style boots. But i don't know much about it or if anyone else is makes them.
      Would be neat if Lundhags could sponsor you with a brand new pair of boots disect :)

    • @larsgustavsson2262
      @larsgustavsson2262 Рік тому +19

      Yeah, would love to see a pair of Lundhags double leather shell boots cut apart.

    • @michaelrowley5295
      @michaelrowley5295 Рік тому +3

      Yes, they look just like Lundhag boot! Way back in the ‘80s I read how they were popular with the Royal Marines during the Falklands. I’m sure the same article had a picture of members of the British Royal family wearing them.

  • @ravenfeeder
    @ravenfeeder Рік тому +12

    The differing strategies in the jungle boot vs. the M59 comes down to temperature. In a hot climate, freezing your feet isn’t a concern, so it’s more efficient to let water in and out easily to address both ingress and sweat. For a cold weather boot though, letting water in at all is unacceptable, because they can’t dry in freezing temperatures, they will just freeze solid. When I would be out in Minnesota winter for days or weeks, I wore vapor-barriers over my socks to keep sweat from getting to the boot, so I could just dry my socks with my body heat in my sleeping bag. If the boots themselves absorbed water, they were done for.

  • @Styvistan
    @Styvistan Рік тому +3

    The rubberized version was only intended for wet conditions and CBN. The "standard" version was an all-leather boot, the leather being the same thickness allround, as the shaft of the rubber-boot.
    The formal designation was not "m/59" but merely "marschsko" (marsch shoe) although it has been generally connected to the m/58 and m/59 uniforms.
    As for The Falklands War: this was not what the Royal Marines used. They adopted a boot from Lundhags, which was by the time used by the Swedish Marines. The boots are similar in that they have rubberized lowers, but the Lundhags have a much higher shaft.

  • @fikonfraktare
    @fikonfraktare Рік тому +11

    Legendary Jörnkängan (the Jörn boot) is a tiny company (one man operation last I heard) are also making these styles of boots. Some regiments (both Norwegian and Swedish I think) have bought their winter boots causing long waiting list. Used to be difficult to find, but I believe they have a couple of retailers now.

  • @betulaobscura
    @betulaobscura Рік тому +18

    M59 goes in two versions: regular, whole leather and this one. Also: they are not easy to find, especially in standard sizes range and in really good shape. Also: regular, whole leather boots [could] have stitching on the bottom of the sole and nails too.
    I recommended to check out these boots many months ago, so I am glad you finally did a review of one of two versions of these boots. I have whole leather version and it is fantastic boot! I was lucky to get NOS in my size few years ago.

    • @jerrymiller9039
      @jerrymiller9039 Рік тому +1

      They have them at Sportsmansguide but only in size 9. They used to have many sizes.

    • @masterolof138
      @masterolof138 Рік тому +2

      these are m/54s and the full leather ones are m/57s there is no m/59 boots but these two were the used with the m/59 uniform system, there is also black versions of both.

  • @Toolman999999
    @Toolman999999 Рік тому +3

    In the army I used this boots. I remember a day at the shooting field at minus 40 degrees C. We were all running and jumping that day to not turn our feets to ice. They were horrible cold boots. An absolut must was to have one size larger boot so you could use an extra innersole and pair of wollen socks. The cold went strait through the sole.

  • @JH-lo9ut
    @JH-lo9ut 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a pair of m59 boots. I got them brand new at a surplus store, and they are stamped 1983, so fairly late production (they were updated in 1990 with the m90 boot). Mine are all black, all leather and They could be polished to a pretty high gloss when new.
    I've used my m59's for over twenty years during the coldest part of the winters or when I don't want to use my fancy boots (though the m59's have outlived a dozen of those), I've used them while working in pretty rough conditions in forest, construction sites and dock work.
    I own a pair of the rubberized version too, but they haven't seen much use because they are not nearly as comfortable.
    Boots are still completely water proof. I've given them a cleaning and polish every year but that's about it. The outer soles have started to wear down but there is still quite a bit of pattern left on them.
    Mine are a bit over-sized and I have room for thick felt insoles and I usually wear them with thick woolen knit socks and still room enough to wiggle my toes.
    I don't think I ever have had cold feet while wearing them.
    The downsides to these boots are that they are quite heavy and cumbersome.
    The outer sole tends to get quite hard in sub-zero temperatures and they easily slip on packed snow. I have these metal spikes you attach to the outer for extra grip. It's basically a piece of stamped sheet metal with teeth that are bent both ways so it grips both the sole of the boot and the ground. They have a rubber strap that goes over the toe and a loop that goes around the heel, I don't know what these would be called in English... I think they are army issue.
    I can attest to the fact that these are amazing boots. They look a little too rough to wear as "city boots", but when you got ten inches of snow or slush, nobody cares what your boots look like anyway.
    By the way, two swedish brands make modern versions of this boot: Graninge and Lundhags. I think both of them used to manufacture the m59 boot, along with a third brand, Tretorn, wich is mostly associated with rubber boots nowadays.

  • @TarnishUK
    @TarnishUK Рік тому +2

    Really interesting video. However I do take issue with the reference made to the Falklands War. While some people may have been in possession of them through private purchase I've never heard of them until seeing this video. The picture of the British boots that was briefly shown are Boots Combat High that were introduced after the war to replace what had been the standard issue boot, the DMS ankle boot (Directly Moulded Sole) which were basically a minor update to the old Ammo boot. DMS boots were worn with short wool Puttees. Boots Combat High were still being issued in the mid 90s as I can attest to as I was issued a pair when I joined the Territorial Army at that time.

  • @cheap4x434
    @cheap4x434 Рік тому +24

    It goes to show the environment that you are building your boots for makes a big difference. The us was building a boot for a hot wet environment so they needed it to drain. The Swedish where building for a cold wet environment so you don't want water getting in the boot.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Рік тому

      I tried some Vietnam era American boots, but on snow and ice the rubber was extremely slick despite the heavy pattern under the sole.

    • @cheap4x434
      @cheap4x434 Рік тому

      @willytepes27 That makes sense when you look at where they were designed, which is the South Pacific were you have to deal with heat and mud

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes Рік тому

      We have not failed to notice how ill equipped the US army is for arctic warfare. They always get their vehicles stuck when on exercises here, and have to borrow our equipment.@@cheap4x434

  • @kairojenkairamies
    @kairojenkairamies Рік тому +1

    Lundhags does these still. Got my own Jaure II High ones.
    It's one of the best boot for damp forest hiking.

  • @blethook
    @blethook Рік тому +33

    I had a pair of these boots. I seem to remember that getting the right sizing & fit was very tricky. I think they're designed for wear with very thick socks. Really hard to break in. Now I know why...

    • @minixtvbox
      @minixtvbox Рік тому +2

      Yes they are at least 2 sizes too big

    • @juslitor
      @juslitor Рік тому

      thick socks or foot rags

    • @DuridPid
      @DuridPid Рік тому

      Swedish rubber boots like these or Lundhags are designed for 2 pair of socks

    • @EspenX
      @EspenX Рік тому +2

      Rule number 1 for winter boots in the Nordic countries is buying boots at least one size bigger than you would normally wear. Not only to allow space for an insulating sole or an extra pair of socks: First and foremost you need to have space for air in your boots. If you have tight winter boots, - even the best winter boots in the world - the cold will go straight through the sole and start freezing your foot. If you have a winter boot a size or two too big, your foot will warm up the air in the boot and the cold can not penetrate the area between the sole and your foot, because it is warm air there. So it is not like they are designed for wear with very thick socks, even with very thick socks you still want the boot to be roomy. If it is not, your feet will freeze, even with very thick socks. If you will never need very thick socks, just make sure your feet still have some extra room for air in the winter time, just go a single size bigger and wear same sock you always do. That air is what helps keep your feet warm, not neccesarily the sock.

    • @SAArch82
      @SAArch82 Рік тому

      ​@EspenX but if they fit bit anyhow, you you buy a size bigger - then it's now WAY too big.

  • @JohnAlot
    @JohnAlot 10 місяців тому +1

    I love these boots for snowshoe hiking. I just got a pair of the older (1958) all leather boots with leather soles. Never issued and they are sized in German sizes as opposed to European, whereas the 1959 boots are European sized. The quality is unparalleled.

  • @balticbushcraft
    @balticbushcraft Рік тому +17

    I use a pair of these with hunter skis in the winter here in the Baltic and a pair of the full-leather ones in summer. They are heavy and take ages to break in (in truth the waterproof ones are never fully worn in as they are so stiff) but they've never let me down. Thanks for revealing why!

    • @Dima-g9w5i
      @Dima-g9w5i Місяць тому

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  • @16Tango
    @16Tango Рік тому +5

    These historical videos are by far my favorite, hopefully you can keep them going. Back when I was in the US Army in the mid 90's I traded a Hungarian soldiers uniforms including the boots. I was told they are pig skin and have the square toe and heel recess for skis.

  • @emiluppa4175
    @emiluppa4175 Рік тому +6

    You should check out the Swedish lundhags hiking boots which is still built in the style of these army boots and was founded by 16 year old shoemaker lundhag in 1932

  • @vin9222
    @vin9222 11 місяців тому +1

    If you find a pair of full leather m59, I would like to hear your thoughts about them. Its a great boot, and the structure looks interesting. Quite comfortable too to wear with wool socks.

  • @ricatiman
    @ricatiman Рік тому +2

    These historic videos are fantastic, as is all of youir content. As I live on the wet west coast of British Columbia, I need good waterproof boots, and it would be great to get these new again.

  • @ronchabale
    @ronchabale 3 місяці тому

    Used them during my army service 80-81, They were called the "Vinterkänga M59" (winterboot) Perfect for snow, slush and mud.
    There was also the "Sommarkänga" (summer boot)

  • @aandersson650
    @aandersson650 4 місяці тому

    They're hard to break in and are way too rigid to be comfortable. I would take rubber boots any day of the week, and the regular m59 boot can be made waterproof as well. One great thing though is the loopstrap on the backside. On the m59 pants you had basically belt loops at your ankles for a little miniature belt and it stopped the pants from going up all the time. Works better than the underside strap but is way more cumbersome.

  • @einar8019
    @einar8019 10 місяців тому

    7:49 "old school", They are still in service today we call them "vita blixten" or "white lightning" and you can get them at alot of surplus stores

  • @Schnagelkott
    @Schnagelkott Рік тому +4

    I've owned several pairs of this boot in my younger years. Albeit somewhat heavy, they are surprisingly comfortable once you've broken them in (which could be a long arduous process, to be fair). They're great boots for cold and wet weather but I would often find myself slipping on wet roots in woodland terrain. The eventual point of failure was always that the age-hardened rubber would crack near the toe which would lead to water leaking in. I guess I could have mended them with some vulcanizing agent, or something like that, but they were always so cheap at army surplus stores that there was no real point.

  • @kart182
    @kart182 Рік тому +2

    Iron Snail and Rose Anvil collab? Two of my favorite channels

  • @russelljackman1413
    @russelljackman1413 Рік тому +13

    Okay, so I am NOT the only one who noticed that you didn't actually cover WHY these are called "Sweden's deadliest boot." Please, mention that on your next video. Thank you, Weston!

  • @eyeteethsightbytes153
    @eyeteethsightbytes153 3 місяці тому

    Interesting to see inside these boots.
    Since so many people are rightly mentioning Lundhags in relation to these boots I thought it worth mentioning that the insoles of one of my pairs of the all leather M59 boots is stamped 'Hagglunds'; I wonder if there is a connection there?
    Additionally another pair I have are stamped 'NS' on the insole while the third pair only has date, size and year stamps.
    All three have Tretorn out soles with various dates that do not match those of the uppers; I think it is safe to conclude Tretorn only made the soles, and perhaps the rubber parts on the boots shown here.

  • @dial1115
    @dial1115 Рік тому +6

    Best channel on UA-cam. You should do a review of some Russell moccasins

  • @wheezu1
    @wheezu1 Рік тому +2

    Yeah Lundhags still makes boots like this. Very popular boots in Sweden.

  • @matthewhaine1322
    @matthewhaine1322 Рік тому +1

    I really like this channel. I never thought the construction of boots could be so interesting but it is when you describe it. Great videos!

  • @hinken24
    @hinken24 Рік тому +2

    These things used to be sold dirtcheap at swedish surplus stores. Its the older version of M59. The newer one is full leather.

  • @Native_love
    @Native_love Рік тому

    Rose Anvil, I love your videos! Thank you for helping us to understand what makes a quality pair of boots! And thank you for entertaining us! Much love from the horribly cold wet frozen rugged wastelands of Phoenix, Arizona! 😉❤️❤️❤️

  • @thegoldenpleb9885
    @thegoldenpleb9885 Рік тому +38

    Just curious, why is it also considered to be one of the most deadly boots?

    • @RadioSnivins
      @RadioSnivins Рік тому +18

      Because they worked so well the wearer could devote his full attention to killing the enemy.

    • @thegoldenpleb9885
      @thegoldenpleb9885 Рік тому +8

      Ahh makes sense

    • @MichaelWilliams85
      @MichaelWilliams85 Рік тому

      I was a wondering the same 😂

    • @flatmoon6359
      @flatmoon6359 Рік тому +2

      They've never killed my feet,mine were made in 1974. Still in regular use.

    • @samd7601
      @samd7601 Рік тому

      Ever heard of a curb check? Yeah those swedes are ruthless

  • @corvus_monedula
    @corvus_monedula Рік тому +3

    Would love to see more international military boots (something about the utility and ruggedness at a somewhat limited budget), especially from countries with somewhat extremer environments like mountains, jungles or deserts.
    i.e Finland, Switzerland, Israel, South Africa, South Korea or Vietnam would be interesting.

  • @conradgonzalez1570
    @conradgonzalez1570 11 місяців тому

    Hemp is used in plumbing, especially still in U.K. in plumbers red oakum and old fashioned plumbers pipe drop. ( Hemp swells when it gets wet) So has hemp ever been used in making shoes, boots?

  • @andrewcarr2416
    @andrewcarr2416 Рік тому

    The Danner Trophy boot is the best winter boot. It has survived two winters going on three, in the Sierra Donner Pass while I have been on foot twelve hours a day, for no days off through the winter months. It has not leaked or lacked on warmth. I am doubtful but welcome to your challenge boots, send me a pair. Winter is coming.

  • @Hardbootbu
    @Hardbootbu Рік тому +3

    not directly related , but when i was looking for boots with some high toe box today , i found a little company in UK : William Lennon & Co . The history tab of their website talk about a very unique way to attach sole to upper , with brass wire ... Might worth a look .

  • @Ginko93
    @Ginko93 Рік тому +4

    i'm not the best for english speaking but i can say that this video is fire ! the history of leather.. im passionate ! after this vidéo can you make a vid about Lundhags professional high opti ? it's the same construction like i see on your photos (2:27)

  • @Squish_that_cat
    @Squish_that_cat Рік тому +2

    Try woodland shoes
    They are famous for durability

  • @mikeboone4425
    @mikeboone4425 Рік тому +2

    Back in 1990s I bought 2 leather jackets one for me one for the brother in law in the Czech republic .The selling point was the fact that the leather was impregnated with silicone and was waterproof for ever living in California it does not get tested but I just got of skype the brother in-law says still waterproof . Could you take a minute some day and explain this process does it have a downside . Happy trails

  • @zachmiller9175
    @zachmiller9175 Рік тому +1

    If you want some completely waterproof rubber boots that are also surprisingly comfortable and made in the USA look for honeywell servus brand boots, i got a pair at fleet farm for under 30 bucks. They're pretty roomy and need a THICK insole to fill them out but that just means for room for comfort. I use mine for fishing sometimes so i can attest they really are completely waterproof. Also a note on the jungle boots, if theres a chance you're going to have to walk through water deeper than the top of the boot you would definitely want something that drains water rather than holding it.

  • @GAIS414
    @GAIS414 Рік тому +1

    Have you tested the Swedish M90 boot? Those boots comfortably took my generation through military service. We tried out the M59 as well, but they were too uncomfortable for modern feet.

  • @davedeville6540
    @davedeville6540 Рік тому

    You need the wool felt liner version of the Lundhags or preferably the almost unobtainable Jörnkängan boot. Those will keep you warm. These… I don’t know

  • @Ilikehelmets
    @Ilikehelmets Рік тому +1

    You should consider cutting apart a pair of Swiss military ord.57 lowboots. They're constructed very similar to heritage boots and weigh probably 2kg! Theyre quite cheap and easy to find online too. Another great one would be the swiss KS90 combat boots. Theyre some of the best modern boots i own!

  • @johanryback
    @johanryback Рік тому +1

    Interesting video! Would be interesting to compare this one to the current Lundhags - seems to be pretty much a first version of the current Lundhags boot

  • @ThisIsMeArnold
    @ThisIsMeArnold Рік тому +75

    I came to find out what made this boot "deadly", or "deadliest". You never covered that.

    • @cjj312
      @cjj312 Рік тому +7

      Sometimes they can be very clickbaity

    • @RadioSnivins
      @RadioSnivins Рік тому +15

      It was such a quality boot that the wearer could devote all his attention to killing the enemy.

    • @greuju
      @greuju 11 місяців тому +6

      Maybe your feet can't breathe? Idk.

    • @antuansteyn1444
      @antuansteyn1444 9 місяців тому +4

      I think that part is covered on the linked video by The Iron Snail. But it's because the boots could be used with skis making the Swedish forces extremely mobile in winter conditions

    • @mypalle
      @mypalle 8 місяців тому +3

      The Sweedish ‘Lundhags’ are making it still, and inspired of old times military, they still make boots like this and even better!

  • @rasmuswittsell10
    @rasmuswittsell10 Рік тому +2

    These boots were our winter boots in the early 80-s. I'm not sure they were designated m59, because they belonged to the m58 wool uniform set. In summer we had all-leather boots, that were designated m59, with the m59 green cotton uniform. The winter boot was rarely used. Boots were not personal, but the same pair would be issued to a number of recruits, until it was worn out. This happened to me, as my very comfortable boots fell apart on a wet and cold november maneuvre. I pulled my winter boots from the pack and put them on. A day later my feet looked like beef tartar. So I switched to my ruined summer boots again and wrapped some leather straps around the ruined one. I was at least able to walk in it, until I was able to get a replacement. The brand new boots took a while to get used to, but they were nothing like the rubberized foot killers.
    Some years later I was issued the new m90. It was light and far less rugged. I didn't like it much, but held on to my pair after retiring from the army. In or around year 2010 I put my m90s on for a hike. After 5 km the soles crumbled and fell off. For some reason the m90 is designed to do that. I heard that it makes things easier if the army can just throw them away after their "consume by" date. It's a complete change of philisophy from the "dad's army" thinking that I was introduced into.

    • @masterolof138
      @masterolof138 Рік тому

      the ones in the video are m/54s and the full leather ones are m/57s

    • @enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604
      @enginnerdedtohoopajoop4604 6 місяців тому

      some boot soles are designed to decompose eventually. for the soles to degrade requires the soles being cold. so the only way to prevent the soles decomposing is to bend the soles which creates heat. so have to use the boots or the rubber will eventually chemically change and become brittle. there is a m90 boot that has a two piece sole or is a m90 gen 2 boot which has one piece sole. you have the gen 1 or gen2?

  • @dmeinhertzhagen8764
    @dmeinhertzhagen8764 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic work as usual. You should try to get your hands on a pair of German Bundeswehr KS2000 or the Austrian KAZ 03 Combat Boots. Both are very similar and made by the same manufacturer, Völkl and some contracts went to Lowa. They are considered iconic boots in several European militaries.

    • @Pyrrhusification
      @Pyrrhusification Рік тому +2

      Those are some of my favorites. All leather!

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому +1

      The German one had a nasty habit of middle disintegration whereas the Austrian boot is built to the same standards as the German boots of the 70-80's

  • @Phootaba
    @Phootaba Рік тому +1

    These looks like my Swedish Lundhags, but I have the tall three leather version.
    Sadly I love them to much to send to you, also I use them year round.
    There's also a smaller producer in Sweden that the very active and professionals use called Jörnkängan that's considered a noth or two above Lundhags.

  • @ze_genz9139
    @ze_genz9139 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting construction, wasn't expecting that.

  • @antonengstroem1999
    @antonengstroem1999 Рік тому +2

    I love my own pairs of these but i was always curious how the were built. Really cool to finally learn. Though my all leather version was stitchdown so other parts might vary as well. The all leather version is also quite water resistant though I havent tested them to the extreme. There were a couple o different suppliers too (Lundhags, Docksta, etc) that might've changed small details

  • @erikp6614
    @erikp6614 Місяць тому

    Actually, there were 2 different types of m59 boots. The standard variant was without rubber and with only leather, and then there was the variant with rubber. Everyone had one pair of each. The rubber variant was almost never used.

  • @rodwallace6237
    @rodwallace6237 Рік тому +1

    Off Topic.
    Does anybody remember a mens boot sold by J.C. Penny back in the 1960s?
    Around here, St Louis, they were called 'boondockers' or occasionally 'brogues."
    A simple rough-out leather upper and a Goodyear hard rubber soul. Four eyelets, three hooks, I think.
    For growing feet they didn't last the year. You gave them to your little brother.

  • @midshipman8654
    @midshipman8654 Рік тому

    I would be so into that side by side comparison. Super interesting to see complete polar opposites ways to address boot wetness.

  • @darrenhall7454
    @darrenhall7454 Рік тому +2

    Another hugely interesting video! You could open a boot museum. 😀 I’d certainly pay to see it.

  • @marulaghost4175
    @marulaghost4175 Рік тому +10

    You guys should totally examine the Austrian field boots
    Those things are beasts

    • @UriNierer
      @UriNierer Рік тому +3

      He probably won't, because they are better than nicks, a lot cheaper and still made. His main sponsor doesn't like that. Or he will just trash them.

    • @highfructosedreams
      @highfructosedreams Рік тому +2

      Agreed. Especially the ones made by Steinkogler. Light and heavy field boots respectively. I wear the heavy ones all year around except summer, and they are the toughest boots I'll probably ever own. On a second thought, maybe he shouldn't - if the secret gets out, they will be impossible to find lol

    • @UriNierer
      @UriNierer Рік тому +2

      @@highfructosedreams Depends, I am Austrian so they will still be easy to get for me. It makes me happy when other people appreciate Austrian boots.

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому

      The Innesbruker ones from the 70's are literally tanks.......and the soles are uniquely Austrian.
      Takes ages to break in and the metal toe clips are very bad ass lol

    • @richardcostello360
      @richardcostello360 Рік тому

      ​@UriNierer I love the "tanker boots" that you Austrians made, all the straps make them super adjustable and comfortable

  • @UnknownUser-rb9pd
    @UnknownUser-rb9pd Рік тому

    Having spent a lot of time walking in a very wet environment, none of these boots would keep your feet dry on their own as water would always come over the top or wick down your trousers or find a way to get in, in horizontal, driving rain.
    You'll always need something like gaiters or overtrousers to cover the top of the boot and extend the waterproofing up to the knees or higher. And that was sometimes not enough to keep your feet dry..

  • @Alpine_Wanderer
    @Alpine_Wanderer 11 місяців тому

    I will add that these boots are practically ice skates. The rubber soles on these have either hardened from age or we're not intended to be used on slick indoor surfaces.

  • @jarvisnederlof35
    @jarvisnederlof35 11 місяців тому

    You should review IceBug winter boots. They are scandinavian and might be constructed in a very similar way.

  • @robertsandgren9389
    @robertsandgren9389 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting video! Cool boot that is Very different from its successor. I think the M59 would be Much pricier than the M90.
    I think the water here in Sweden is too cold for the jungle boot solution. A few months a year, the snow turns into slush. Essentially liquid ice that would freeze your feet if it got into the boots.

  • @HåkanBrodd
    @HåkanBrodd Рік тому +1

    Doing my swedish military service 1982-83, I was issued these, for wet- and winterconditions. Nobody liked them due to the impossible break-in and general ugliness... Towards the end of my service I got my hands on the american jungle boots, which I proudly wore. The reason was mainly cosmetical, but the well-ventilated construction made them lovely for summer use, and I felt like a million dollars wearing them, mirror-shined of course...👍😀

  • @ernoraitanen3773
    @ernoraitanen3773 9 місяців тому

    These are the deadliest boots, because the soles are so hard. On certain surfaces slipping and cracking your skull is very likely possibility 😅
    I have a pair that reads 1975 on the soles. The soles have probably hardened over the years. But I am guessing, the soles weren’t that much more flexible back then either.
    The boots are brilliant in heavy snow out in the wilderness. On icy urban streets these are definitely killer boots. More like ice-skating than walking. Rigidity is also needed, if used with skies.
    Temperature in Finland was recently -30c with heavy snow. I wore one thin cotton sock with two layers of woolly socks. Not only were these boots warm, but also really comfy.

    • @splittertarn2
      @splittertarn2 8 місяців тому

      I used some silicone grease and a hairdryer to soften up the soles on my pair, worked well less slippery now.
      It’s important to get rid of all left over silicone after letting them suck it up overnight.

  • @TheIronSnail
    @TheIronSnail Рік тому +1

    Hey, I recognize that guy!

  • @jerrymiller9039
    @jerrymiller9039 Рік тому +3

    I have a pair and they are heavy but indestructible.

  • @andrewb7633
    @andrewb7633 Рік тому

    Would be really interesting to see a modern day winter book looked at, e.g., La Sportiva Nepal, Scarpa Mont Blanc! I'm sure they've come a long way from these.

  • @patrickfridrichovsky3909
    @patrickfridrichovsky3909 4 місяці тому

    This is the first time, when I saw your cut'n'half and I was thinking "you're murderer"!

  • @davepelfrey3958
    @davepelfrey3958 Рік тому

    That's one hell of a boot. I wasn't expecting that kind of craftsmanship when you cut it into.

  • @SverkerSuper
    @SverkerSuper Рік тому

    Lundhags still make those kind of boots, the OG Jörnkängan is still in business delivering to swedish alpine rangers, there is alot of options if you want boots like this

  • @wompa70
    @wompa70 Рік тому +1

    I think the center cut judge should have taken that metal grommet into consideration. 5.9 doesn't seem quite fair. lol
    These boots are wicked awesome. I'd love to have a pair. But even the coldest of central Georgia winters aren't' really cold enough for these.

  • @RayNLA
    @RayNLA Рік тому

    Reminds me a bit of my favorite hiking boot, the Vasque Sundowner. The made in Italy version!

  • @АндрейШмырев-ж3з

    Купил такие башмаки 65 года выпуска...новые...с хранения.Летом ноги сильно потеют...поставил пластиковые стельки армии Швеции...без войлока которые...циркуляция воздуха стала лучше.Ноги стали меньше потеть...но,в дождь и снег эти башмаки - вещь!!Правда тяжелые...один башмак больше килограмма весит!Как рабочие использовать самое то!!!🤔🧐

  • @ArsontAngelfire
    @ArsontAngelfire Рік тому

    I think your history vids are my favorite, and the main reason I stick around. I don't care too much for fashion over function, so a lot of the modern market is out of my interest. Your leather content and these historical vids are right up my alley though!

  • @ehsnils
    @ehsnils Рік тому +1

    To me it's a bit of a different use case for the Swedish rubber boots and the US army jungle boots. The jungle boots are for hot climate where you want to evacuate the humidity while the Swedish boots are to keep the humidity out in cold climate.

  • @orange25i
    @orange25i 9 місяців тому

    The boot needs to be as inflexible as it is, because it is being used as a skiing boot. You cannot have skiing boots which are flexible. In the Austrian Army you get two boots - normal field boots and the heavy boots, which are similar in as far as they can be used for skiing and thus have that lip to mount the skiis and are inflexible.

  • @matsgustavsson665
    @matsgustavsson665 Рік тому

    Used that boot in the -80:s during my service. Used with two pair of socks and a change of the outer pair of socks 2-3 times a day they worked perfekt. Just needed to air and dry the socks you changed for reuse.

  • @wastelandranger6021
    @wastelandranger6021 Рік тому

    Docksta makes a boot quite similar to this, The High coast boot (Höga kusten kängan). Still made in Sweden too.

  • @krikbre
    @krikbre Рік тому

    Editing for this is beyond what it needs to be its incredible, literally feels like premium yt lmfaooo

  • @bobdobalina798
    @bobdobalina798 Рік тому

    I had the older leather soled hobnailed and plated soled boots with the thick felt insulation and the points to clip on crampons and skis ... they were great winter boots

  • @martindunwell6099
    @martindunwell6099 Рік тому +1

    You can get the rubber 59 in the UK fairly cheap the soles are so slippery they need avoiding. The lundhag vandra lasted me 8 years the certech eventually cracked but brilliant i have had all the goretex boots none lasting more than 2 years and in truth most of them not even that the meindl dovre 3 pairs and rubbish i now have the forest 2 light and with leder gris in the stitching fully waterproof walking through wet 6 inch grass soon finds out any boot

  • @CarolusR3x
    @CarolusR3x Рік тому +1

    Theres also a second version of this boot that isnt rubberised and is of a goodyear welt construction.
    It'll be interesting to see that one cut in half too

  • @chobilooooooo3503
    @chobilooooooo3503 Рік тому +1

    yes looks like Lundhags boots, check them out Rose Anvil 👍 I have a pair, Its like wearing tanks on your feet 👍

  • @davidlewis3867
    @davidlewis3867 Рік тому

    Bought a pair of these after watching the Iron Snail video a couple months ago. I was expecting a broken-in pair of smelly old boots, but received what was obviously a deadstock surplus pair that had never seen another mans feet. And they were made in 1967! Cool to own a little piece of mint condition Swedish history.

  • @Plague_Doc22
    @Plague_Doc22 Рік тому +1

    As a Swed, it's cool to see a shoe that I have that I never thought would see the day of light on this channel.

    • @miagothful
      @miagothful 4 місяці тому

      Använde i lumpen 88-89 rep.93.

  • @LegoLazze
    @LegoLazze Рік тому +5

    Swedish engineering is second to none. I sure want to see a comparison video of these and the US Jungle boots

  • @Axel-er6lv
    @Axel-er6lv Рік тому +4

    Lundhags make similar boots today like the forest 2 that are even made in sweden

  • @polhokustaa4989
    @polhokustaa4989 Рік тому +1

    I have the black version (with rubber) of this boot as my hunting boot and two pairs of brown boots without the rubber as my daily winter boots :) They will most likely outlast me...

  • @gs5480
    @gs5480 Рік тому

    I've owned these boots and used them for work/hiking. Unbelievably tough boots that only died when they fell off the back of my truck and got run over by the car behind me.

  • @Jeranhound
    @Jeranhound Рік тому

    Ordered a pair of these after watching this, got them in today. I'm an 11.5 in boots, 12 in sneakers, so I ordered what was listed as a 44 european. What I ended up getting was made in 1968 and sized at 28 1/2, supposedly CM, which is actually near a size 12. My feet are swimming in these things, barely touching anywhere. Beautiful condition, though; the leather looks brand new and the leather insoles were completely smooth and fresh, and there was only a single small crack in the lower on one boot, near the heel. Perfectly understandable on 55 year old rubber.
    Got a couple down days at work coming up, so I'm gonna hit up the local Danner store and pick up some felt insoles, see if they help with the size feeling.

    • @Jeranhound
      @Jeranhound Рік тому

      Oh, and the price. They were $60, plus $15 shipping UPS 3 day from Finland to Washington.

    • @Jeranhound
      @Jeranhound Рік тому

      Adding felt insoles certainly makes them comfy to walk around in, but I did 2 miles of running up and down hills playing airsoft today and my heels hate me. Maybe if they were a tighter fit, but as is I'm gonna give wearing 2 pairs of socks a try and if that doesn't work then they will be relegated to rain boots.

    • @masterolof138
      @masterolof138 Рік тому

      they are sized to fit two layers of thick socks

    • @Jeranhound
      @Jeranhound Рік тому

      @@masterolof138 And now anyone who has seen these comments knows to order 1 full size down from their regular boot size.

  • @eanschaan9392
    @eanschaan9392 Рік тому +1

    I own a pair of these and the un-rubberized variant. I have been working on restoring them as they are in horrible shape.

  • @jdlackey88
    @jdlackey88 Рік тому

    Heck yeah, Iron Snail shout-out!

  • @Ginko93
    @Ginko93 2 дні тому

    How take care of the rubberized part please ? Just like normal leather ?

  • @emty9668
    @emty9668 Рік тому +1

    I don't understand this folktale of these boots being issued to British Soldiers during the Falklands Conflict. As far as I remember we had the good old rubbish DMS which during the conflict failed as a combat boot, leaking like a sieve and caused trench foot. The DMS stayed in service during the 80's, with either rubber or nylon plastic insoles because they were issued to me with a set of puttees. It might have been that some smaller specialist units wore the Swedish boot or some purchased them personally to wear. It might even be that the Swedish boot was introduced to some as a stop gap after the conflict. They were not general issue. The DMS was retired around 1989 when the high leg boot took over as a direct result of their poor performance on the Falklands. The DMS was a poor boot that contributed the the frostbite I got in my big toe, they stayed wet for days.

  • @martinnordesjo7267
    @martinnordesjo7267 Рік тому +1

    What a culture shock. I’m just baffled that a channel about boots don’t seem to know that Lundhags boots even exist. I’d have thought you would have examined one ages ago. :)

  • @RyTrapp0
    @RyTrapp0 Рік тому

    It would be pretty damn cool to see some boots inspired by the construction of these with a little modernizing - but that also looks like it would be expensive to build, would have to be a premium product. But what a fantastic design, would love to have something like this for winter wear!

    • @martinnordesjo7267
      @martinnordesjo7267 Рік тому

      Just look up Lundhags. It’s been the standard premium hiking boot in Sweden for half a century.

  • @TheRealCreoleDeal
    @TheRealCreoleDeal Рік тому

    Could you do the Danner USMC R.A.T boots? Iv been wearing them at work for a couple months now, curios about the quality.

  • @michaelholguin8432
    @michaelholguin8432 Рік тому

    Id like to see some Oak Street trench boots cut in half. They are American made and appear to be high quality.

  • @MikeHaggarKJ
    @MikeHaggarKJ 9 місяців тому

    When I worked in second hand stores we would get several of these weekly. Noone bought them lol.

  • @walterbryan1798
    @walterbryan1798 11 місяців тому

    Interesting construction.

  • @barryrahn5957
    @barryrahn5957 7 місяців тому

    I have both the rubber and the all leather M59's. I love how they fit, but the rubber outsole is really stiff and hard. Is there anything I can do to make the rubber more pliable?