KTM RC390 Cup RR [RC 3C] Track Bike Build // Series Finale
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- The KTM RC390 is a lot of wonderful things. Powerful is not one of them. In this final episode we install lots of exciting new parts, rear sets, a race airbox, a full exhaust system, and even make some cooling modifications to make it more capable of dealing with engine heat. We top it all off with some custom Dyno Tuning.
0:00 Introduction and Parts List
0:55 Air Box and Power Commander
2:34 Air Box and Power Commander
4:10 Exhaust and Coolant Removal
5:08 Rearsets
6:54 Exhaust Installation
8:20 Cooling and Radiator
13:08 Dyno Tuning with Moto Station
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Over 20% bump in power is pretty damn impressive. You're definitely gonna notice that on track!
Great video!!
Thank you and thanks for your help. I noticed even on the dyno, the engine was running significantly cooler (at least according to the bikes temperature gauge)
Watched the whole series in one sitting. Great stuff man
Would love to see another track day to see how the speeds compare. Really enjoy all your videos.
Looks great! Did the full exhaust, power commander, quick shifter on my 19 KTM duke. Definitely felt the difference on track, the Duke is more of a blast on track then my Ducati Monster 1100s! Great build for us that love little bikes!!
I can't afford to trick out my 2015 R1. I have to watch these videos, living vicariously through the men (and ladies) who do!
I absolutely love watching bike builds. Would definitely vote to see more like this.
Just binged this whole thing, I loved it! Been eyeing an Rc390 for the street to go next to my Tenere 700. It's set up perfectly for bombing down fire roads but leaves me wanting when I'm on the road with my sport bike riding friends :D
I just got off the phone with a buddy where I just gushed about how much fun this thing is and how surprisingly capable it is despite its size. It's, simply, so easy to ride. I get back on the 848 and I'm like, whoah, this is a lot of work.
Really enjoyed watching this bike come along. Keep up the good work.
Awesome build! I'd love to see some track footage
Wow, Mrs bike look stunning I would not want to ride that on track but rather cruise in town turning heads, job well done.
Awesome build, looks like it will a blast to ride.
great work.the bike looks fantastic.would love to see how it runs
Love the series. @canyonchasers is fast on track, whatever bike he's riding. Humble presentation online; crushes in person.
Kind words! Thank you!!
Love it, I have one as well (and an S1000rr) but there is something so intimate about the RC, and the fact that you can have great fun fettling it. Loved the Mesh / fan remove idea...
Excellent adjective. there is something intimate about the RC. Well said!
Fresh upgrades enjoying my Race Bike Ohlins is legit 🤟
Awesome series Dave. Great to see how you can take a simple small bike and transform it into what looks like a super fun machine. I wish I was as clever as you are. 🤔 🤓🏍️🏍️🇬🇧
Clever? Naw, it's just bolt and go customizing mostly. That and a lot of internet "research" :)
Beautiful bike brotha no doubt be safe and enjoy out there
👍👍. Double thumbs up on the build! Thank you for treating that little bike to this extent. Your making me miss it 🤣😂🤣
Little bikes rule!!
Had a great time watching this build. I'm really surprised the percentage of horsepower gain you were able to get from that tune!
what a beast...nice bike dave
good job. personally i love budget bike/car builds. like to the point of being funny but also trying hard to end up with a decent trackbike or track car thats worth riding. like a ninja250, sv650, ninja650, older 600s...to name a few ideas
We want this type of rc in India
Man, now I really need to get my 390 back together. Between your vids, and the whole 390 crew I saw at Gingerman over the weekend, I've decided to get hot on this 3 year back burner project. Lol
Omg... finally someone making good video about ktm rc...
Now it really sounds like a moto3 bike, love it
Really great bike. I'm thinking of getting a 390 Duke for training.
That looks amazing! Looks like it should be on the front row grid of moto3
The fan was done like that very intentionally. It has to do with Euro 5 and California smog requirements. Its designed to get the bike up to operating temperature as fast as possible and keep it there. Bike probably runs 220F+ and also very lean.
Good information. That makes a ton of sense.
@@CanyonChasers I have seen lots of things like this on newer bike. Its not just KTM its all of them. Like my bike now has a full alternator so it can run a electric water pump because they want keep it within 10 degrees of 210 so 200-220. But if you go full race bike you can pull a lot of things off to be honest. Save a lot of weight.
Insane bike, i'd love one so much.
They’re pretty great!
Great job
love this ktm rc 390 user from philippines u deserve more views on this ♥♥♥
Thank you!
This has been a fun series to watch for me largely because of the problem solving you’ve done. Plus making a fun bike MORE fun is always a plus!
Let me toss an idea:
I’ll bet you could put together something interesting around the idea of taking a “vintage” bike (read: carburetors) and upgrading /modernizing it.
That was our original idea with this series. But seriously, I coudln't find a vintage bike that was interesting enough to me to want to take it on. I'd like to do an old Guzzi or something, but most of those have already been ruined by the previous owner. :(
And sadly, i've owned enough vintage bikes, that most of them just don't really interest me, which made me sad when I came to that realization.
@@CanyonChasers How about a grey market 400cc from the 90's???
I had to take out my swing-arm pivot-bolt to mount my rear sets as well (CB300R), although my setup wasn't as nice as yours. I hoisted it up with a cable reel stand by the passenger pegs. It definitely felt sketchy, but it's the best I could do with the tools available to me :) I actually bought a second bolt ($15) and swapped it out in place (so it swing-arm didn't fall out), which made me feel better at least.
2022 wheels and hollow axle tube fit would shave a bit more weight for not a lot of cash once they are avaliable used for sure. Love the content
That looks badass
Nice work. I don't know why pie cuts in the exhaust look so good, but they do.
What a great outcome for a great project! No insult intended but the baby pumpkin orange racer is "cute" but growls like a big dog. I wish my R9T could sound like that!
Yeah, it does not sound like a little bike, thats for sure.
Nice job! I’m lucky I can change the oil on my bike
We all start somewhere!
I wish to be you one day , tweaking and working around machines
Nicely done. I wish i can do to my bike too.
really like this series plz do more
We will be doing something similar again this winter.
A satisfying end to an awesome prelude. 46 at the wheel. Impressive! Swap them wheels to the newer light weight ones, and it should be blast.
I really with the new wheels would fit on the old bike. Maybe someone will come up with a kit?
@@CanyonChasers It should be a fit with some mods perhaps, or a direct fit. But a kg or two saved on unsprung from a stock means even flicker handling.. You know well.. 😁
@@CanyonChasers they do now! Grey area ;)
I just bought a ktm rc 390 it’s comes in august 1st im so excited
SWEET! NBD coming soon!!
As a first time owner of a 2022 RC 390, this build was really fun and exciting to watch. It gives me the idea of track building my RC as well when I move to my second bike. Definitely wanna know if I can max the current top speed of 180kmph on it. Any ideas of ECU remapping?
46 at the wheel? Damn! What's the throttle response like now?
Great little series - any chance of a comparison between first track day and present? 👍
Great idea!
beautiful
Thank you! 😊
Rockin’! … now give it away!
I don't know if I can emotionally part with it yet.
@@CanyonChasers I’m sure full send all the way around the track is a blast. I’ve considered grabbing one up (if it could be found near enough to me) but already have a track bike (‘04 r6) and don’t think the Mrs. would go for the extra expense with the current economic “situation”.
Brother I was planning to get a Ninja 650 as a budget twin cylinder but you have changed my mind for RC 390. Treat to watch you work
Right on!
The fan shroud has that specific shape so that the radiator fan throws out hot air away from Rider's legs.
damn 46 hp is sick, in Indonesia there is someone who upgrades the zx25r engine to 300cc and gets 51hp, I'm curious if it's a race on the track🥵
If that KTM is anything like my RD350 from the mid 70's, a 20+ bump in power will transform that bike. Don Vesco's shop did my RD engine mods and it went from a 110 MPH top speed to 125+. Darn that bike was fun! Home made rear sets ( no one made any back then), 36mm Mukuni's and TZ250 expansion chambers. You would have loved riding that bike! Is there any way to send you a pic? Yes to more builds and especially a comparison of before and after at the track.
I'd love to see it, you can email me at dave_AT_canyonchasers.com
The fan is designed that way to keep the wind from causing the fan blades to free spin/back spin wearing out the bearings.
That makes a lot of sense.
siiiiick!
we have the same exhaust and airbox!haha 💪
Winning!!
@@CanyonChasers look search for febur for 390..you will need that
I dream that KTM would slot their 300XCW two stroke engine in this chassis. It would definitely bring me out of motorcycle “retirement”. The RC390 tempts me as it is….but I long for lightweight two strokes.
That would be sick! But i doubt it'll never happen. I bought the last model year of the Zumo 50cc two-stroke scooter knowing it would likely be the last two-stroke I own. I still have it too!
46hp is a great improvement for a single since rc390s get 37-40 on the dyno some even get less.. I think that airbox also did some improvement on the torque numbers so did the Power Commander.. awesome build, so sad the series ends but I am so satisfied with the result.. Good Job Sir 👍..
Well, someone already approached me with an idea for another video... So I suspect this isn't going to be its last appearance.
In india, stock RC 390 from showroom comes with 45 bhp
4:30 - There are actual instructions? That's a reason alone to go with DynoJet. I'm so used to aftermarket instructions being a single page that says "remove any necessary parts and install the new part; reassemble".
Can you post more about RC3C ～～ ???
Because I have 2017 RC390 ABS
So I love this bike want to see more Build RC3C In Track～
Post more RC3C in track～ please
We have a whole video series on it; ua-cam.com/play/PLko5Drgq0e7__SOk9qrZcYJsbq7ijfhPw.html
@@CanyonChasers Yeah i see
Amazing series well done! Does the high mount exhaust heat up the rear shock reservoir?
Not so far as I can tell
@@CanyonChasers Great to know! I am going to order the same set-up.
You mentioned the flat throttle response coming out of corners prior to tuning. Has that improved? How significant? I'm particularly curious about the improvement in performance on exit corners at the track.
Oh yeah! The tune with the illegal racing airbox make a ton of improvement - it is a torquey little powerhouse now!
I didnt read every comment, but would un shrouding the fan along with the radiator shroud, and a cooler thermostat be better if my 390 is not a dedicated track bike?
Carbon Fiber Wheels. They will help tremendously with drive out of the corner. Like gaining a few hp
I know! Right?!? They'd be amazing!!
@@CanyonChasers On the lower Hp bikes, the light wheels provide indisputable sensory feedback. You will feel the acceleration gains. Suspension and braking benefits are a plus.
It takes tremendous power to spin up heavy wheels. Try the carbon front wheel alone if funds are an issue. That seems to make the most difference in light, low power bikes. Rear, not so much.
Save some additional weight by putting in a lithium ion battery.
Just a comment: "qty of air to make the bike cooler"? Noup.... what you really want is more velocity of the air, that's how many deflectors or radiators shapes works, creating venturi to speed up the air to reducing the air temperature and accelerating the air throughout the radiator coils. Not sure if that's affect your specific KTM. Same with the airbox, the shape is made it to reduce turbulence creating more speed inside the chamber
Yep. You are not wrong. We just did the first track day with the bike yesterday, and although severe winds limited riding, the bike was running significantly cooler when we were on. My suspicion is this bike was designed to get as much heat as possible away from the rider. But I'll continue to monitor how the bike performs. If I'm wrong, a new shrowd is only $15. :)
It's a shame that the Kawasaki ZX-25R won't be available in North America. That looks like an insane low displacement race bike
Thank you and I agree with you on the little ZX!
I envy you man. You and your shop, your tools, and the fact that you have the time and resources.
Question though, I know some factory stock 390s (duke or RC) can put out 42-44HP. Installing an aftermarket muffler without tuning can take away 0.5-1HP. Installing a more free flowing air filter and aftermarket exhaust, without tuning, might take away 2HP. I was expecting that your bike will put out maybe 48HP and above because the Power Commander has a "performance tune" available for the KTMs (according to my friend).
But anyway, did your tuner tune for a specific AFR or it was just a ramp run tune to smooth out the power curve? If your tuner targeted a specific AFR, care to share the value? 13.2? 13.5? 13.8?
My apologies man, I am abusing you with questions. Since you ran the bike on the dyno, is it true that it's running way too lean from factory? I remember this was my same question I posted on your first video of this series. That's it man, I am sorry for asking too much.
Congratulations man. It's not your bike but you put part of your soul in it building it to an awesome motorcycle. More power and ride safely for Mrs. CanyonChasers.
Yes yes and yes. The bike runs bonkers lean out of the box. He tuned for everything, but most importantly for proper air fuel mixture. We spent almost two hours on the dyno.
Yes, many bikes lose power when you install parts without a tune. And we don't want to get too hung up on the number. Every dyno will read slightly different numbers. Which is why we look at before/after gains instead.
@@CanyonChasers Thanks Dave. By the grace of the motorcycle gods I might land me a KTM bike as my next ride. Your build keeps me pinned to the great value of small cc bikes but with huge fun factor, easy builds. The KTMs here in Manila are being assembled in a local KTM plant. Prices are getting favorable for simple john doe like me. I am looking at the 2022 RC390 or my dream KTM, the Scalpel 790 Duke.
Did you do these mods before or after the "Welcome to My Helmet // RC390 Full Session UMC West Track // Episode 1" video? I am still debating which bike to choose for my first racing season 2024. A Ninja 400 or the new 500 (they should have called it a 450!) would probably be the smarter move but I just hate how soft the frame is and that everyone and their uncle seems to have one. ZX4-RR would be awesome but way more $$$ to buy and maintain for racing, and pushes you into a higher class. Have you guys looked at the new Aprilia RS457? I have a 790 that is heavily modified but too powerful and expensive to race for a first season.
Yes, the mods were done before the riding video. Of those bikes, personally, I like the Aprilia the most. I has the best frame/suspension IMHO.
What tire do you use ? Amazing.
Pirelli/Metzler (same company) are our tire of choice most of the time and what's on both our track bikes.
with the new airbag are you running an open lid? I just pulled the trigger on the same box with over sized fuel injector. and DNA filter
just saw the answer to my question, but are you using the oversized fuel injector?
Yes. The OEM fuel injector can't fire fast enough.
thanks have you done anything else to the engine like high compression gates, or titanium valve spring retainers. any advice to help ,e avoid any problems along the way?> @@CanyonChasers
hey@@CanyonChasers , are you doing anything for the closed loop section of your fuel map,(WideBand2)? how does the bike run at lower speeds? Does it seem like it's getting too much fuel in the lower rev range with the larger injector? just one more question, would you care to share your PCV map with me I have a very similar setup..Thanks
Seriously youdidso Mughal d ended up with only 46 h. What a wasrwof time effort and money!
Upload more footage from the cam plz
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is it porting polished?? idk if rc390 can make 50hp on wheel its gonna be awesome
Nope. We left the motor alone for better reliablity.
with the exhaust couldnt u have saved more weight with a smaller exhaust even like a slip on sc project
We were looking for performance more than weight. This exhaust provides that. Also, little short cans actually hurt engine performance, because they hurt the torque curve.
Do you have a map for powertronic rc390?
where i can get the fairing and bodykit?
sorry I meant to ask, do you know what you have the weight down to?
I belive we're just a smidgen under 135kg (300lbs). Thats just math-estimates. I've not put it on a scale or anything.
can you tell me with that body race so can i keep the stock light ?? cause i not used for race, i'm using for run on city
please tell me soon ? this second time i ask this question
Pete-X-Shop. I responded to your last comment too. I have a link in the description of the "bodywork" video and everything. :)
What year is your 390? I looked for a power commander for the 2021 390 Duke but it looks like they only support up to 2019 :(
Ours is a 2017, but the Duke is a few years ahead of the RC in the development/production cycle. You may want to call Power Commander. They are super responsive, and they'll have the most accurate answer for you.
@@CanyonChasers thanks!
For anyone wanting to do track days or race..... I typically see everyone worrying about horsepower first. What you spend on pipe, power commander, and whatever else might squeeze out a couple horsepower, you'd be better off leaving it stock, and spending your money on suspension. You can only go as fast (turning) as your suspension allows and stock suspension is crap. Horsepower is only king if your drag racing!!! If you have money to do both then do everything. 20 years of road racing, and coaching all I see is new guys immediately doing pipe and power commander, often crashing trying to keep up with someone who has done all the proper suspension mods. I guarantee if you buy two brand new identical bikes, do horsepower mods on one, and only suspension mods on the other, you turn faster and the riding is more enjoyable with faster lap times on the one with suspension set up. If money is tight, put ego aside, get Traxxion Dynamics or someone who is expert in building and setting up your suspension,. Preferably don't try to do it yourself because some already know what works best on particular models. You can even make friends with someone at track that's doing ridiculous fast lap times, and they'll likely be happy to help you. A particular bike might handle better just moving fork tube up or down 1-2 mm. How many even bother to set up proper static sag? Is your chain too tight it won't let rear squat under hard throttle?
I struggled for years racing until Traxxion Dynamics worked on my bike. That day was my first ever win, and the bike felt much easier to ride fast. I visited my son while he was coaching last week for 3 days at Roebling Road. There were some real fast experts there but mostly track day guys and first year racers there. Not one new guy didn't have a pipe on their bike. I was shocked how many crashed going as slow as they were. One had to get helicopter life flight to hospital. Sadly horsepower is so popular UA-cam is full of pipe, mapping, dyno numbers, almost zero talk about suspension. Suspension set up will improve your confidence as well. One guy there crashed a brand new S1000RR. He had pipe and mapping but found out you can't brake from 160mph to 100mph and pitch it into turn one with stock suspension. With the right suspension you can do 115 through that same turn. Just some advice here from an old guy. 😁
Off topic but I wanted to request a topic for an upcoming video... I had an off once decelerating into a traffic circle using only engine braking. The rear wheel ran over and slid on a flattened palm leaf. I lost control as the rear end came around quickly and I low sided on my 2013 Multistrada. My assumption is that this would have been avoided if I wasn't engine braking. So my question is, when should engine braking be avoided and when and how should it be used? Also, does this change for track vs street or in certain conditions? I have resorted to pulling in the clutch and trail braking with the front brake in similar corner decel conditions. Is this correct? Thank you.
You would have still lowsided it if you ran over that palm leave with your front wheel while trailbraking, right? Seems to me like the solution is "do not run over palm leaves, especially when not completely upright".
@@KibberShuriq no I don't think so
@@gg48gg Why not?
@@KibberShuriq because ABS doesn't work with engine braking but does with brakes. The reason for the loss of grip was because the rear wheel locked up and dragged the palm leaf under the wheel. If not for engine braking I would have rolled over it and regained traction almost immediately and perhaps imperceptibly.
Bro can u make video of installing under belly
The under belly came from Tyga. And it's two basically two bolts. Their instructions were really good.
Why did he remove thr coolant pips? Really curious
The header pipe contacts the coolant line with the thermostat.
@@CanyonChasers ohh ok thx for answering
How can i get the air box?please let me know
It's available at Grey Area KTM
Hi
What year is this bike?
What top speed did you achieve
I honestly have no idea. Maybe 150kph?
Is this a 390 well I’ve never seen one in India
They are everywhere in India, but this one just has very unique, hand-made bodywork on it.
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What's the setting value for the SoGear waiter?
I think there's a translation problem. It translated it to "SoGear Waiter" - not sure what that is or should be.
@@CanyonChasers What are the front gear and rear gear teeth?
Stock. I didn't change them.
what's its top speed..??
I’ve not quite hit 100mph.
@@CanyonChasers dude.... you're pampering the beast 😂
How much Final hp? Man🤔 i think 52-54
46 actually
This or R3?
Pros and cons. Both are great bikes. I think this handles better and is a bit more fun to ride (which is subjective). The R3 will be more reliable and has a bigger pool of aftermarket parts and knowledge.
@@CanyonChasers thank you ..
They really make you pay for that whole airbox? Might as well just sell the different velocity stack and save on waste
You have a point. Thats a lot of extra plastic just sitting in a box right now.
Little bike😭🤣🤣
Thanks for playing really loud music during the dyno… I didn’t at all want to hear the bike with the new exhaust
Great build man!! Can I invite you to check mine? We did exactly the same 😂
Haha! We did a lot exactly the same didn't we. Great minds think alike!
@@CanyonChasers yeah man! I watched yours and went down memory lane. I went heavy in the motor too
Even company made looks bullshit . But this built looks great