The Always, Onlys and Nevers of Motorcycle Riding
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2022
- What are the Always, Onlys and Nevers of Motorcycling? We hear them all the time. Never do this! Always do that! The only way is this way! But what are the absolutes that we need to be aware of so we can be safe riders?
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Rybo's 12 year old son once told me "Don't surprise the bike!" ... mature words from a 12 year old!
I have used that line for years. It was such a beautiful explanation, yeah.
I’ve used the front brake mid turn very lightly, I was told by other riders to never use the brakes in a turn. I am not a fast rider but it’s a good tool. Thanks for your video.
ya lots of opinions by pros....who never shop for more riding tools then what's in their tool bag
I'd say careful doing that in a group. Especially if your tailight doesn't work. 5-10% break should be fine, I rode for 5 miles in deadmans curve behind a guy that stabbed his breaks hard mid corner every time and there was sand on the roads.. That was dumb.
@FR learn how to read
When I came upon the luck of finding a former motorcycle brigade rider from the Army who told me "It's about HOW you use the brakes. If you can't STOP the bike at will, then you do NOT have control. You're betting your life on this thing, so you might want to figure out why you're gambling your life on something you don't control... or maybe quit."
That was the day my father and my uncle both lost their privileges of coaching me on a motorcycle. My father always preached "The front brake will wash you out in a curve, so don't ever use it." My uncle always preached "The rear brake will get you killed in a curve, so don't ever use it."...
SO my ex-Army "adopted uncle" taught me how to ride, alongside his son. He pissed me off plenty (about par for a 15 year old "know it already" if I'm honest) and I occasionally despised him for sucking the fun and excitement out of riding...
BUT the lessons stuck. Looking back, I needed it. I deserved every syllable... and I'm glad to have gotten that coaching from him... and that he wouldn't baby me along for being a "dumb-ass kid". Slapped aloe with lidocaine on more than a fair swatch of road-rash and put me back on the bike... "Either make up your mind to ride, or quit."
I never forgot that Aloe with Lidocaine trick either... haha... ;o)
@everyday tenor Thanks. Stories make otherwise "dry" education worth the perusal, and it's part of how we remember stuff...
I was aware of the Romans using Aloe, and my mother even kept several plants when I was younger, because kids get into EVERYTHING they're not supposed to...
The interesting detail is that it's helpful for road-rash. AND Emergency Medicine already uses lidocaine by the buckets, so they're used to it at a glance... For the budget, you just about can't do better.
At the very least, if one engages "self teaching" about trail braking, I highly recommend doing so cautiously and gently... AND of course Greg over at Motojitsu should be studied up. I'm no GP racer, but I've even been fairly aggressive on the fronts in corners without much worry.
There really IS no replacing a competent and caring coach, though. It really helps, whether you pick a grizzled ex-Army rider or a guy like Einatsch at ChampU or Kevin Morris with MCRider if you're in that corner of the country. A coach CAN be found, so long as a little care is taken about that "competent and caring" part. There is the MSF, at least in the States, but it can be a bit of a mixed bag and expensive to boot. ;o)
Always good to have this kind of advice before I go crazy this summer! Thanks ☺️
Your and YCRS are my two favorite and most learned sources of riding info. It amazes me how few riders spend the time to actually learn how to ride better, safer, faster. Coaching and instruction is the most valuable part of your riding experience. Thanks for all you do to make this a better sport.
I love your videos. I started watching your channel when I decided I was going to buy my first motorcycle, I’ve learned so much. Trail braking has helped me in corners, I feel a lot more confident and in control when cornering.
Thank you for these great lessons on riding here in the Philippines especially in the provinces we have to motorcycle track to run on instead we use the streets and so far I have used your techniques on my travels and enjoyed the ride as for the quote I saw in a rider's vest..."It's not the destination but the Ride". Thanks so much guys!
I felt your sincerity really come through on this one at the end. Ride well brother.
I love your videos where you cover such topics! I'm from India and the past 11 years i had been riding a 125cc proper commuter bike from Suzuki. But it was only recently that i started loving riding motorcycles. I thought i had gotten good at riding, so i decided to buy a 250cc bike. Again from Suzuki, a Gixxer sf250 made specifically for countries like ours. The power it puts out is pretty low by Western standards but its pretty decent (or more than enough in my case) for Indian roads, especially the state where I'm living in where its full of twists and turns. So the bike happens to be a sports tourer, the riding posture isn't that aggressive but still its very new to me. I can't help but find myself lean my bike around corners (something which i rarely used to do on my previous commuter motorcycle), the ergonomics of this bike just encourages me to lean. Now i get it why sports bikes are designed the way they are. There is so much more to learn about motorcycles, how each design serves a purpose or evoke a particular emotion. Your videos have helped me get a better understanding on the logic that involves when cornering a bike, I've been learning some of the points you mentioned intuitively but your points have given me much more clarity on it.
Wow, your videos are so good. They're no doubt the most ready-to use technical motorcycle video i've found un UA-cam.
When I was starting out one of the most frustrating things was trying to find "The" answer to various aspects of riding. As I progressed I realised that context is everything and a time and a place for all things often applies. Great video! The goals approach is a great way of looking at it.
Great video...excellent delivery which was appreciated!!!
Thank you again for this amazing eye opener! It's a very welcome addition to get the rigidity about the "rules of motorcycle riding" out of our heads and system. After viewing one of your other videos I applied your words to my actions, and to my great relief cornering my motorcycle ( H-D Electra Glide CVO, 440 kgs dry) went way better than I was used to! So, in short, after doing those "do's & don'ts" you mentioned for 40+ years, I've been going over to your " school of riding" and the new views. It's good to keep on questioning what is right and wrong, and by doing so, bettering yourself all the time. Thanks again and greetings from The Netherlands!👏👏😎😎🇳🇱🇳🇱
Such a great video refresher of those key things to keep us safe. Thank you for all your videos do to help us.
Thank you, great video and info.
Great review. Thanks for your consice PRESENTATION
Another great video! The "ends the anticipation" line was hilarious!
New rider here, about 800 miles on the bike
I just want to say I’m glad I stumbled upon your channel
I’ve been implementing the skills you’ve been talking about.
My favorite one so far being to keep my two fingers always ready on the front brake at all times
It has been a good habit to have
Thank you for your experience !
Critical points mentioned with the right conflicting points. YCRS snippets trickled down, definitely makes the one that much safer. Thank you Dave.
As usual excellent tips, thanks for that
Great information, I constantly try to learn and wonder about this daily.
Valuable information as usual, thanks so much.
This is my first visit to your channel and the content is excellent. I am also impressed, after reading many comments, by the civil manner displayed. On some channels, it becomes a free-for-all of unpleasant disagreement.
Thanks for another informative and helpful video
Great vid. glad iv been doing all these naturally. Top Vid. gives me peace of mind.
Great discussion to encourage us all to keep an open mind and keep learning. I like the blend of race track to parking lot topics, it’s all about motorcycle control no matter where you’re riding.
Thanks!! Obviously I agree. 😎
Nice to see a sensible video with good and reasonable advice. Very helpful to many, thank you.
Thanks so much!
As always.great Great videos!!! Thank you
I will say, from riding basic courses and taking performance driving courses in cars- your advice is spot on. The big part is practicing application to know what has the exact effect, and when or how much to apply said effect. Its the same concepts in all of motorsports. But mastering a motorcycle will definitely make you a safer automobile driver.
Excellent as always!
This is absolutely correct. If you ride long enough, you will run into every (what to do when) scenario and it's exceptions! A great no nonsense advise!
I love your tool setup the leds look awesome
Good advice and as you say stay adaptive and be prepared for the unexpected. Ride well and stay safe 🤓 💙
Another great video. Thx
You’ve no idea how much I wanna be near you ! You teach me this much , through this distance, and just with videos , as you say , you love bikes and riding , i do too , however it turns out very late , but i love riding .
I wish , and believe me not just wishing, I’ll try my best to being in the situation which i can be there near you , to learn more and spend more time with you if you accept ! Sincerely your student, soheyl
Finally someone else that understands that there are no absolutes on a bike. As a rider of 41 years, racing RD350lc's and powervalves in the 80s, and 15 of them as a motorcycle instructor in the UK, I've been telling my students these things for years. I've always 'feathered' my brakes in corners if they are needed, but if they are needed then it was my fault for not reading the road correctly. At our school we also teach the students about tyre profiles when it comes to steering and cornering. The body language you get from a student when you introduce them to using their feet as well as countersteering is amazing to watch lol. I've even held the bike on the tyre limit to show students just how low a bike will lean, which on most bikes is approx 60 degrees, but if you need that on the road then you've screwed up somewhere on entry lol. As to cornering lines on the road I would point everyone in the direction of the UK's Police Riders Hand Book. This is used in RoSPA and IAM training, both of which are advanced levels of riding. The RoSPA Gold level is the basic level a police rider in the UK needs to be before they let them on the road.
Brilliant video my friend!
Excellent video. Thanks
"Never apex on public roads"- i have seen the video of a couple who died because they were riding on apex and the oncoming car was little off the apex and they collided, all these advices are life savers for real.
And a big thankyou to your whole team for putting this content online for free. Learning counter-steering(totally changed my riding experience) and trail braking from you has made me better and a more confident rider.✌️
Great stuff!
Precious advices..👌Thanks...
Well said. It's always nice to get confirmation on one's habits and beliefs. Riding for 50 years, vastly improved in the last 4.
I love this!
Thank you!
Always full of info..great videos by a great person...keep it up bro
Thank you!!
very nice instruction
This is exactly what I was thinking about before you uploaded it 👍🏼 Thank you 💯 can you reiterate one for track riding when you into that intermediate class pushing pace into the race class?
Thanks!
Great information as always. One of the rules I have always broken comfortably has been rolling the throttle on slowly once my corner is set. I trust my tires. I’m still engaged in lean and I’m trail breaking and I start rolling on the fuel.
Right. If we're comfortable with our speed and direction, but not quite ready to go back to the gas and take away lean angle, maintenance throttle is the tool. But I probably would encourage you to not brake and maintenance throttle simultaneously. :)
Excellent.
Started riding track days about the same time I got my license!
Best thing I’ve ever done, understanding you motorcycle in extreme conditions will save your life one day!
All the “don’t’s is something you use on the track all the time, from trailbraking, turning your front to where you want to go in mid corner by accelerating with massive lean angle….
Countersteering etc…
Thing is, you never need to ride at that level in traffic, not worth it, but to have it in your back could definitely save you some day when things go south
Loved the video, loved Ducati as example... keep it honest, very cool!
Love your videos. Can't stop watching them! Thank you! What is your T-shirt?
It's a riding joke. "this is not a ham" i.e. don't be a ham-fisted rider.
I just wish more channels were this balanced and encouraged people to think for themselves like on these videos!
Thank you! Thats some super high praise!
I've always ridden with 2 fingers on the clutch and 2 on the brake. A hold out from my dirt bike days I guess. Never did me wrong.
Great video for real world riding.
I've been a victim of the 'nevers,' specifically 'never touch the brake in a corner. The emphasis placed on smooth riding, both here and on other channels, is much appreciated. I could have used in my younger days, when I thought 'late braking' was all about diving deep into a corner and then jabbing the brake. Smooth riding is safer, faster and just more pleasant.
if you cant use the brakes in a curve, you can never ride on hills, because going down a hill on a curve you HAVE TO BRAKE or the bike speed will increase out of your control.
You also have to be able to brake on a street corner, incase traffic in front of you stops suddenly. One of the most common places for accidents is just past an intersection, where everyone is careful going thru it, and then a vehicle slows and turns into a driveway just on the other side of the intersection.
You "cant" use the brakes in a curve if you are already riding at the limit of traction.. ie. going TOO FAST to be able to compensate for anything unexpected
@@kenwittlief255 Great comments but don't forget you have a lot of engine breaking on most bikes, using this down hill in conjuction with your brakes is better practice than just relying on your brakes. Plus if you need to brake hard if traffic stops suddenly infront of you anywhere then you are riding to close to the vehicle in front. In the UK we use the 2 second rule, 2 secs between you and the vehicle in front is more than enough space to brake no matter what speed you are going, time over distance etc lol
@@wyrefpv9553 One point I somewhat disagree with you is the 2 second following time no matter the speed. If I'm riding on the interstate and in traffic that is going 85mph then 2 seconds is not enough time to safely stop.
Really great presentation.
Glad you liked it!
Great information! NEVER applying brakes while cornering probably originates from riding my BSA Victor. The brakes were the original "adventure motorcycle ".
I had an old Bonneville with double leading shoe brakes. I don't know if the brakes or the bias ply tires were worse.
Love your videos mate ,helps education and recapping, keep up the good work, Ride safe from the UK 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
Wry good video !!😮
I have been riding 36 years and I am an average rider doing about 50 000 miles since 1983 without crashing once. As a rule I have always changed my front sprocket 1 tooth up. Why? Because the joy of riding rather than more power has always outstaged what my bike could do and what I was capable of. O do not get it when guys buy a 750 and expect 1000 performance. Being out in the open experiencing my 5 senses has always been more meaningful than trying to make my wife a widow. My older brother taught me. You get 2 types of riders. Those always pushing the limits on public roads and the old riders. You seldom get old riders pushing the limits. Choose which one you want to be because those who are both are too few.
Great presentation though. I really found great value in your style of presenting. Clip really well put together. Great job thank you!
Ride by faith and not by sight. . .
I agree with everything you said in this video. Smooth progressive inputs make perfect sense to me.
I try to take care that I have the speed roughly right coming into the corner, positioning to the left of the road (UK) for right handers and more towards the centre of the lane for left handers, and follow the limit point through the bend, using small throttle adjustments. Rolling on throttle, and bringing the bike upright as the limit point widens out, I try to accelerate smoothly out of the bend. My bike has lean angle ABS, so if I need to brake in the corner there is some safety net there. When I have had to brake mid corner, the bike has shown a tendency to 'stand up', so if you're sneaking in a little two finger action, mid corner it can unsettle the bike if too extreme.
Yeah this is the part that YCRS doesn't teach you. I've had to do hard braking in a downhill corner because I misjudged the corner exit.
Stupid me, I know, but the bike did want to stand up and move toward the center line, so I had to lean more and find a safe exit path. It's a good thing I already had light braking before entering the curve and applied progressively more brakes as I neared the apex.
@@fallinginthed33p It isn't a nice feeling, especially if the road surface is poor with gravel towards the crown of the road! You find the bike heading straight for it, discovering along the way that the true colour of adrenaline is in fact brown!
@@David40S Don't look at gravel patches. Get target fixated and you will crash.
@@fallinginthed33p never look directly at something you want to avoid. Always look at we're you want to go, because that's we're you will go. Especially on a bike, but even in a car. Seen lots of riders drive over things on the road when there's plenty of space to avoid it.
Especially when going to fast for the rider to keep up, there vision becomes shorter and shorter.
Good video. Now don't think of all of this once while riding! haha
Thanks
absolutely!
I use the rear break (only) in a corner all the time (not always of course but quite often) . I find it really useful if you realize half way through the corner that you've chosen the wrong line , (which I'm prone to do) .
Eventually you’ll pay a price for using your rear in a corner, I hope I’m wrong.
Nice video.
Great video. I miss riding. Haven't ridden since 2014. Even it's been that long I still have buying another motorcycle in the back of my mind. Every now and then I look at cycletrader and go to my local Honda dealership.
Why so long, tho? Hopefully not due to injuries.
@@patrickmba7638 no injuries even while I was riding, knock on wood, mostly just life in general, moved to another state, and starting a family. My wife isn't against me getting one but when I do it'll be just my toy on two wheels.
@@JW-fm2cy 👍
Good info. There's one use of throttle and front brake I'd like to get advice on before I'm ready to accept it as an absolute.
Freeway offramp, in traffic. I want to slow down from moderately high speed gradually, and signal to vehicles behind. Sometimes I use rear brake, but I find I have more finesse on the front brake (I can more accurately feel where ~5% is, just enough to light up the brake light). If I completely close the throttle and use engine braking, I slow too much and am risking being rear-ended because of no brake light.
Sometimes I find it's better to roll off the throttle and begin to front brake slightly, but leave the throttle open just a bit, to maintain momentum but begin slowing. Then if I completely need to stop once I've exited or get back on the gas if the light is green I can transition to either.
This is one example of a situation that's hard to describe, and it may be particular to my 300cc bike, but I'd be open to discussing better alternatives.
This is an interesting question because your argument is you are using the brake light for communication, more than slowing, so I understand where you are coming from.
That said, the risks of overlapping the front brake and the throttle are still legitimate. However, overlapping the rear brake and the throttle is actually something a lot of us do a lot to control wheelies or to stabilize the chassis in some specific situations (probably less of an issue on a little bike).
So I gotta say, I'd be far more inclined to use the rear brake. We can actually adjust the rear brake lever so that the light would come on early, before the brakes were actually engaged (if we wanted) so we could still communicate without pushing front and rear tires against each other.
I use the front brake mid turn, but I learned to be smooooth on it
You can overlap the throttle with the front or rear brake whenever you’re going really slow in traffic to help keep you from needing to put your feet down or you can get a Rekluse automatic centrifugal clutch and put it in your hayabusa and solve the problem FOREVER!!! I can’t stress enough how awesome the automatic clutch is. It would be especially amazing for new riders too because you can still use the clutch as normal or you can just be super easy on the throttle and not use the clutch. I love mine. (I’m not shilling for rekluse, just giving new riders an idea for a good option to try and make their ride better).
Seriously ... Just lean "Moar"? Is that what just flashed up on my screen? I had to look more than once but yep, there it was. 😁
Another great video guys. Excellent advice and great passion as always.
Stabing the front brake for stoppie. Stab the rear to slide. Stunt riding. But learning to slide the rear can be useful. Front brake and throttle.... smokie burn out! Also forces the front suspension to compress. Back more to stunt riding.
Great advice as usual. One of if the scariest feeling on track was accidentally leaving the throttle partially open while getting on the brakes.
No kidding!! It's extremely unnerving.
It’s that fancy BMW auto-blipper you’re rocking, Cuban!
What happens there exactly? Rear tire gets loose?
Thanks for addressing resuming braking in the middle of a corner; it seldom is on UA-cam motorcycle channels. But I find myself getting grabby with the front brake. During this period that I am learning to go easier on the front brake in that situation, I use engine braking with the clutch 'cause it's easier to finesse the clutch than the front brake. People will say you're burning out the transmission or clutch, but I'll take that chance. Just be aware you will want to be in a higher gear than usual, because the engine is gonna start screaming.
I'd encourage you to continue to focus on the front brake. We're not especially worried about wear, but you have significantly more control with your front brake. You can add and subtract small amounts of pressure for incredible precision. When engine braking, what do we do if we need to slow even more? Add more coast?
I realized that I had a bad habit when riding in canyon corners. I was surprised to see me using both trail braking and throttle only when turning right. So sometimes it was dangerous. My bike is naked. I put my elbows under the handlebars and it got a little better. I need more practice...
Yeah, I've definitely dragged stock pegs on an RC390 😅
A very useful technique I have recently acquired for anticipating a possible emergency braking situation is as follows
Pull your front brake lever in that 10 or 12 millimetres until the pads are barely touching the front disc.
By doing this, it overcomes the tendency to “stab” the front brake in an emergency.
Try this yourself you will feel the difference
Great content Dave and always well presented. I have learned so much from you. Thanks heaps mate from Australia.
I dig it! But if you’re always braking until you’re on the throttle, you will always be at least in this position (with the pads touching rotors).
@@VState60 I am not sure you understood what I meant. I only use the technique in a possible emergency situation such as somebody coming up to turn in front of you. By just barely touching the pads on the rotor it eliminates the tendency to stab the front brake giving you better control for a safe stop if necessary.
Agree. When anything looks dicey up ahead rapidly bring the brake lever to the point where the pads are just touching the rotors and hold it there. That way you reduce your reaction time and are set up to squeeze on the brakes properly.
about braking, always brake graduatly, touch your rear brake when front brake is not enough and you are good to go. Also think a head.
U are the better than rest
I really like your closing comments. For me that’s THE take-home message.
Me too actually. I was pretty happy with how that part came out.
What kept going through my head when I took a turn too fast off the highway was, "Never use the brakes in a turn!" Six broken ribs and shoulder later, I wish that poor advice hadn't been drilled into my head and I had known better.
I use front brake to shorten wheel base in corners to contribute lean angle. I use throttle to maintain speed while doing this. So I disagree with not overlapping these controls since I have those overlapping goals.
Great video as always. Thanks for all you do.
I would strongly discourage that practice. The best riders in the world all say to never overlap the two controls.
@@CanyonChasers i know. but since i don't know their reasons, i can't judge their advice. the term "trail braking" is overbroad, in part because it assumes i'll finish using one control before applying the other. note that if i had a "suck the front tube up a bit to shorten the wheelbase" control i would be using that instead of the front brake in this situation. i wrote a similar comment on the video in which you explained why the anti-dive feature of BMW Telelever wasn't much to your liking.
meanwhile i'll go on enjoying your work, and thanks again for that.
Shortening wheelbase does not increase lean angle. Braking might compress the front suspension, decrease the rake angle and trail, but only if it actually results in deceleration. If you are using the throttle against the brake "to maintain speed" you are not decelerating so there is no change in geometry.
Finesse. I've found that it helps a lot to have a nice comfy pair of gloves. Some gloves, you can't feel anything. No feedback for those small decimal points of control. Winter riding compounds the problems as your fingers can get a bit numb. So you have to back off, right? Anyway, I've tried different gloves and my favourite were Nankai. Hard to get now.
I ride big ADV bikes. Trail breaking is a thing, and damn useful both on and off road.
YES!! It’s not scary or advanced. It makes riding more fun!!
one of the better ones, all being good
Thank you! This one took quite a while to research.
I found that knowing the bike im riding, breaking and acceleration came intuitively much like it did as a kid on a bmx.
Thanks for the great tips - love these video's
Thank you!
Sir more videos pls
I have so many ideas written down, enough to keep me going for a few years before I'd even have to add to it.
Never use the throttle against the front brake is great advice, but should not be confused to mean release the throttle then grab the brake.
When I approach a corner, I ease off the throttle while gently squeezing the front brake. Basically as I roll off the throttle, I roll my index and middle finger (that have been covering the front brake) down against the brake lever. This 1. Loads the front end as I pull in the slack of the front lever, and 2. Gradually eases the force from the rear tire into the front braking wheel as braking increases.
I end up at ZERO throttle pretty quickly, but this helps keep the ride smooth.
I love this advice, and have shared to my children ages 30 and 21. I don't know everything.
I too roll off the throttle and right onto the front brake, but a lot of programs are teaching that trail braking is being on the throttle and the front brake at the same time.
I always assumed the reason the front brake was put with the throttle because you aren't supposed to use them at the same time.
I had one of those push throttle into brake unintentionally and it hurt; The free play on my throttle had changed and I wasn’t aware of it until my crash. Granted I wasn’t going fast but setting up to trail brake, I accidentally opened throttle up and stabbed brake out of muscle memory; second mistake because I had bled brakes few days before so it was more grippy. Next thing I know the ass end of my bike popped up and sent me flying, landing hard on my shoulder enough to knock me off riding for nearly a year. Bike in shop having throttle cable re-adjusted or replaced.
I think we've all had similar situations. It is scary AF.
I'd say one absolute on a bike is not to be abrupt. You touch on that with the brakes and throttle, but applies to most of motorcycling. You don't want to be abrupt with the controls, weight transfer, direction changes...etc. Your examples and explanations are great....there are not many hard and fast rules. We've all heard that "smooth is fast", but smooth is also safer.
I totally agree. Another would be "never drop your helmet," yeah?
@@CanyonChasers No doubt...lol. Great content!!
Never override the ability to see thru the corner… the street is full of unknowns and is very unforgiving .
"How do mixed messages work in other parts of your life?" Amen, lol
I make a conscious effort to brake all the "rules". Just a little when I am sure the consequence will not be very bad.
I could be wrong, but I personally think it makes a person a better rider for a lot of reasons. A rider should know exactly what there bike is and isn't capable of. And it gives a rider more options and a greater skillset.
I usually don't start breaking until I'm in a corner, lol. Trail braking is my comfort zone. But then again, I used to race professionally.. an easy thing to remember is the brake pressure is an inverse relationship to lean angle. The more you lean the less you brake, the less you lean the more you brake. If you're going to ask me "how much can you break at a given point during a turn?" I'm going to say, go to the track and find out. You won't know the limit until you crash, but you can get very close to the limit without crashing at the track. If you want to be as fast as you can possibly be, then crash. It's how you learn the fastest, lol
Pushing the front brake against the Throttle sounds like a pretty Sick Burn out …. Tell me I’m lying 😂😂
Indeed it is!
Not disputing, but anecdotally, and iirc, Troy Corser would hit the brakes and the gas in the corners on the early Aprilia RSV to get enough stiffness from the bike.
No one taught me how to ride, other than my dad jumping out in front of me when I was 12 making sure I could brake. He was an idiot.
I ride a 145 hp, 650 lb wet weight bike at high speed on unfamiliar back roads. That means decreasing radius turns are common. And fun (or the end of your day).
I STRONGLY suggest all motorcyclists find the nearest gravel road. With curves. Ride it slowly at first only using gentle inputs on all controls. Go slowly. Then, gradually test the limits of grip (this works best with a beater bike, but if you learn to recognize what loss of grip feels like, you’ll be fine). Either way, if/when you fall, physics gives you the lessons you need.
Then, and only then, use what you learned when street riding. You will have learned what it feels like when you are on the bleeding edge of traction, and know what to do to not get that close again. As an added benefit, knowing all that, you can become VERY fast on road courses. I didn’t go that direction, and never ride over 9/10ths.
Be safe out there!
Motorcycling is a constant dance with nuance.
@6:00 there’s a pretty popular ‘coach’ who I’ve seen speak on UA-cam and to crowds of folks who teaches this-I disagree with about 90% of what he teaches and I hope this was directed at him 😂
I only “stab” the back brake…when I’m showing off in dirt or gravel. (Don’t tell anybody!)
Kids love skids!
@@CanyonChasers lol! Exactly.
Very Good .. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🇵🇰