@@barrybrennan1045Lol. FLA had the second worst record and got lucky in the lottery, and the other two are from trades. How exactly does low taxes and palm trees explain that?
@@tkdmike9345 The two trades of course. Players want to play and stay in Florida because of the warm weather and no income taxes. Maybe you should think more and LOL less.
That was a crazy draft. In hindsight I'd personally rank my top 15 as 1. Draisaitle 2.Shesterkin 3.Point 4.Pasta 5.Nylander 6.Reinhardt 7.Demko 8.Ekblad 9.Teows 10.Forsling 11.Bennett 12.Sorokin 13.Larkin 14.Ehlers 15.Kempe Obviously, many of these were not expected to be as good as they turned out to be.
God damn, that truly is a stacked draft. Makes me more pissed that the Canucks picked Virtanen (🤮). I can only imagine what it would have been like if they drafted Nylander and he played with Petey. Could’ve been a completely different type of Swedish connection 😔
William Nylander, Leon Draisaitle, Brandon Point, David Pastrnak, Sam Reinhart, Aaron Ekblad, Gustav Forsling, Sam Bennett, Nikolaj Ehlers, and Adrian Kempe are all available in NHL Legacy 2016 for Playstation 3. 10 of the top 15 draft picks. The game is basically the same as the previous 2 years but updated rosters and some gameplay tweaks that to me, make it the best hockey game ever made. 18 year old Conor McDavid has a face scan. Older game but it's brand new to me and freaking Awesome especially since I know the future and tweak the rosters to be more accurate.
@ronryan7398 lol. I put 18+ players on their respective ahl teams to mimic real life. Mitchell Marner is also on Torontos Ahl team with Nylander as well as a 5 star potential Auston Mathews I created. My franchise is Edmonton with McDavid, Leon, Phil Nurse.
Or the two years in a row Detroit got late round gold...1998 with Datsyuk at 171 then 1999 with Zetterberg at 210. Of course, the only other player with significant NHL games that they got with the 17 picks between those two years was Jiri Fischer.
Throughout NHL draft history there have been some real head scratchers , and my choice here is Draisaitl. For me the far beyond head scratcher is the three teams that took players ahead of Cale Makar . Amazing
The argument at the time was the level of competition Makar was playing against. Even on HFAvs, there were many folks questioning the decision; consensus choice at the time was Heiskanen if he made it to 4th (I would have been fine with that as well). Some support for Mittlestadt (who is now an Av) and even Vilardi IIRC. Had the Avs won the draft lottery, supposedly they still would have drafted Makar, but there would have been many tears in that case. Support was split between Patrick and Hischier for top forward (Nico was my choice between the 2). As much as I would like to say I was behind the Makar pick even before it happened...I wasn't. I was not against it, but I was one of those that were unconvinced due to his playing in the AJHL. Once college season started, I learned better quickly. But as an Avs fan, I am glad the way it worked out.
Huge Leaf fan here, but I think I am being objective with this draft order (and it sure is easy when you can look back at ten years' results): 1 - Draisaitl; 2 - Ekblad; 3 - Nylander; 4 - Reinhart. I could be convinced to swap Nylander and Reinhart.
My 2014 redraft: 1. Draisaitl 2. Shesterkin 3. Ekblad 4. Pastrnak 5. Point 6. Sorokin 7. Nylander 8. Reinhart 9. Toews 10. Larkin Picks 6-9 could go any order and I would not argue much. I put Toews last of that bunch to counteract my bias as an Avs fan. But hey, at least we used our 1st round pick to draft *checks notes: the only 1st rounder that year to not play a single NHL game. Hell, the only player we drafted that year that got into any NHL games was 5th rounder Anton Lindholm with 66.
The thing is: There is a difference between recruiting a Swedish player vs. almost any other nationality. You get complete honesty and leadership. No BS. No hype. This is not the case with North American players and you are vain + money hungry. You want quality, you recruit from certain countries. Period.
1. Most of you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael Nylander (dad) played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes. 2. Who the eff are some of these players drafted before him? Half of them are merely reaping the benefit of playing in Florida too. It is like Hyman in Edmonton.
A small correction because it's little known: Dany Heatley is German / German-born, too and was picked 2nd overall, so technically he still is the highest picked German-born player.
@@ChrisBender-dw4sh Heatley was born in Germany when his Canadian father was playing hockey there. I do not know if his mother was German or Canadian. If you are born in Germany you do not get German citizenship. Does Heatley have dual citizenship Canada & Germany, like Barkov has Finnish & Russian citizenships?
@@jaria4745 Yes. Heatley's mother is German and he does have dual citizenship. He was raised in Canada but he does speak German quite okay and he also finished his career in the DEL. He chose to play for Canada internationally but he had been totally eligible to play for Germany, too.
@@jaria4745 pastrnak hasn't even won a ring with boston on a far more successful team in his 10 year career. he's a similar player so there's not much of a difference. there are a lot of great players who never win so switching doesn't mean anything when your team isn't good enough.
@cche16 During his NHL career Pasta has scored 360 goals vs Nylander 240. Pasta has over 700 points which is about 200 more than Nylander has. Nylander is good but Pasta would have been even better.
Its not underrated, its bad. But it pays good salery and the guy ending up there already tryed NHL and KHL and are not good enugh. Bothe Swedish and finnish legue is better but pays worse.
@@TzOn79 why so salty bro? I didn't compare the DEL to KHL or any other league 😂 but as a matter of fact most of the times better salaries lead to better players joining the league. Just saying... maybe it will get more relevance in a few years with higher salaries.. and btw nobody else except the countries represented in the KHL care about this league, except for the NHL scouts ofc 😂
DEL is where washed up players go to fade away. They can still get a fairly good salary there even though they have no future. Its the MLS of icehockey.
Everyone up to and including Bennett should have been selected before Nylander (Bennett and Reinhardt have cup rings so any argument ends there) Drisaitle was obvious #1. But Nylander after Bennett although I'd have to review the draft and see if nayone later should have gone ahead. I imagine there will be. Nylander has elite skill but defensively hes a coin toss and he doesn't have the ability to put the team on his shoulders and dominate a game. He can be a game breaker but he needs the team to get him the puck in a position to score, he doesn't create his own oportunities enough. And if hes not scoring he doesn't give you anything else. All that said I still take him on my team any day. He's a guy you can build offense around. Whereas Mathews and Marner are more likely to take over a game either with dogged two way play and Mathews scoring touch or Marners ability to slow the game down and find guys anywhere on the ice.
NHL scouting is such crap. For example, in 2014 the Lightning chose 3 players, Tony Deangelo, Dominik Masin and Johnathan MacLeod before selecting at 79th pick BRAYDEN POINT. I don't think hockey scouts have any idea what they're doing beyond the first 5 picks. The sport needs someone to come in and moneyball the situation. You could argue Vegas did that for their cup I guess. I mean Kucherov was drafted 58th overall and was passed over by every team, including the Lightning at least once. Toronto passed over him twice.
Even if there was a re-draft, I think Willy was either chosen at the right spot or would have fallen further down the list, mainly because of his size and pedigree. The knock on Willy in his draft year was his small frame (I think he was listed as something like 160-170 lb back then) and the fact that his father was the notoriously selfish Michael Nylander, so no one thought that he would put work into developing his physical strength, and his first two seasons with the Marlies/Leafs showed it. His physical development wasn't noticeable until his fourth season, a year after playing a full season with the Leafs, where he was consistently questioned by Babcock and getting healthy scratched. People used to question his style of play (and some still do), but if you've watched him play for the Marlies (which was the better ticket to buy back then), then you'd know that the style of play did not change at all. The reason it didn't work during his first couple of years with the Leafs was because he wasn't fast or strong enough to pull off that style of play at the NHL level, but because he has improved his strength and speed, his style of play looks to have been improved/changed.
You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
William Nylander was regarded as a great tallent, but beside the good draft class rivals he had was a lot of more related to the fact that a lot of NHL teams knew about his mind-set. Nylander at young age had been viewed as kind of arrogant, with a lot of him believing he was valued high and his father, Michael Nylander who was a good player in his time had part to it. I mean just the fact how Nylander was close to ruin his image with the contract signing of the Maple Leafs, demanding insane pay for a youngster so Swedish NHL legend Borje Samling had to step in and talk straight to the kid - "That money is not all, that if you value your career and the luxuary of being on NHL level, and being with the Leafs, you don't go this path further".
Disagree. It's not arrogance if it is true. And after feeling that he was arrogant for a long time, I've come to recognise, as many have, that they have mistaken confidence in himself and his abilities as arrogance. As far as that contract goes, he was not worth one penny less than what he got in that contract, and he wouldn't have gotten it otherwise. He sure proved he was worth more during that contract, didn't he?
@@chrismyers99 I have nothing against the kid. But he did not make himself likeble early on, but thank goodnes he matured up. I can't say what he is worth to be honest. That is not for me to decide. But early on before proving he showed to much demanding.
@@WarioSaysSo You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
Ekblad & Draisaitl have always been better players than Nylander. Reinhart & Bennett have become better than Nylander. But, I'm sure that the Islanders regret not taking Nylander at #5. Dylan Larkin and David Pasternak could have gone 5 & 6 and the Leafs would have still had Nylander at #7.
@martinprice9441 are you mental? Bennett isn’t anywhere close to Nylander. A part from even watching them play, you can look at the difference in point totals in their careers and it’s easy to see how Nylander is way above Bennett. Reinhart had a great season last year and is playing wel this year, but he cannot drive a line or drive the play. He is a smart player that knows how to play with the panthers system and Barkov, but he is nowhere near as dynamic as Nylander. Just watch games and you can see how Nylander is often times the best player on the leafs depending on the game. He is that dynamic and talented and every year he continues to improve on his point totals. He should have had 100+ pts last year but he tailed off at the end likely due to migraine issues that like he had during the playoffs (he probably had them during the end of the season and into the playoffs). Ekblad is a good player but he is clearly not a top tier defensemen as evidence by the multitude of dmen taken above him for team Canada.. Weegar who didn’t even make team Canada is a much better player than ekblad offensively and defensively. I’d argue Nylander’s offensive potential and play driving even warrants drafting him ahead of Larkin (look at their point totals). And while this may be a hot take… Nylander could be even better than Pastrnak. It’s becoming very evident The bruins and Pasta probably overachieved last year with how poor they are playing this year. While pasta is good, he also doesn’t drive play and is as dynamic as Nylander is. Drai, Nylander, then Pasta are probably 1,2,3 picks in a redraft.
You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
look up the 2011 draft...leafs 27th overall took tyler biggs..lol look at the next 30 players after that...ill tell you 1...58th overall...KUCHEROV...LOL
Nylander has 10 more playoff pts than Reinhart in one less game. Sam Bennett is elite in the playoffs and has 13 more points but has also played 30 more playoff games. Nylander sits at 0.79 points per playoff game. Bennett is 0.66 and Reinhart is 0.6. So nylander is actually more of a producer than both of them in the playoffs, on a much worse team
@mememachine2013 True, you can def make an argument for Point and Shesty, goalies value are too inconsistent imo too put Igor above, but peak Igor is above Nylander thats for sure. Point is really a toss up, Reinhart id say took too long to get going but rn there pretty much neck and neck
@@floodz2089 point has similar or slightly better numbers if I remember correctly and he plays center which is the reason I have him above. Sam and willy are a Toss up imo and I agree about goalies it depends, I just think he's the best goalie in the League so I give him the edge over willy
@@mememachine2013 Fair enough id say thats a decent take. Point as more elite seasons and the cups to show for it, I just think Willy as more skills and a higher production ceilling. But yeah Point plays center and as a mote rounded up game overall, tough to say for sure
OHH, the Ekblad disrespect! Someone go ask McDavid who he least enjoyed playing against during the Cup Finals....I'll wait. Outside the top 5 in a complete re-draft, understandable. But you seriously just listed Toews?!
I wonder if any of those top 5 teams would have won cups or made the finals had they been waiting for Willie to develop at 7M per year. I don’t think so. He’s a man now, playing like a true 7M dollar player, problem is Toronto is paying him 11.5M now so NO DEPTH FOR YOU LEAFS!
Florida has the 1st, 2nd and 4th overall from the 2014 draft on their current roster. Damn…
Crazy right
No taxes and palm-trees help
@@barrybrennan1045Lol. FLA had the second worst record and got lucky in the lottery, and the other two are from trades. How exactly does low taxes and palm trees explain that?
@@tkdmike9345 Smart trades, good management. No taxes and palm trees are perks.
@@tkdmike9345 The two trades of course. Players want to play and stay in Florida because of the warm weather and no income taxes. Maybe you should think more and LOL less.
As a Sabres fan it breaks my heart how many franchise players we let go for peanuts it kills me I mean I love underdog stories but ffs 😢
Reeeally tough times for the Sabres these days
Currently, they have 3 defensemen who were drafted in the 1st round...how soon before they are down to only one?
No taxes and palm-trees vs lake-effect snowdrifts and chicken wings…
And the fact that they are still in rebuild mode and terrible should be concerning as well 😅
@@XIIIRaven yeah, its quite sad. Would be a winning team
That was a crazy draft. In hindsight I'd personally rank my top 15 as
1. Draisaitle
2.Shesterkin
3.Point
4.Pasta
5.Nylander
6.Reinhardt
7.Demko
8.Ekblad
9.Teows
10.Forsling
11.Bennett
12.Sorokin
13.Larkin
14.Ehlers
15.Kempe
Obviously, many of these were not expected to be as good as they turned out to be.
God damn, that truly is a stacked draft. Makes me more pissed that the Canucks picked Virtanen (🤮). I can only imagine what it would have been like if they drafted Nylander and he played with Petey. Could’ve been a completely different type of Swedish connection 😔
Stacked draft!
point is not better than nylander, i’d argue pasta isn’t either
@@tjones17As a Leafs fan. I think Point is better than Willy. Pasta I'm not so sure
@@WalkableBulb905 i’m taking nylander over both but they’re all amazing players
NHL 2014 Redraft Top 5:
1. Leon Draisaitl
2. David Pastrnak
3. William Nylander
4. Sam Reinhart
5. Aaron Ekblad
Easy to miss the latter picks. Check that list and you will see some great players. Shesterkin and Sorokin, Toews, Point some to mentioned
@@ParA-ts2bm Goalies rarely ever get drafted in the top 5.
@thefozzybear theese are generational good though
Man, there was a tweet in there saying "Leon 'The Final Solution' Draisaitl". How did they not screen that one?
😂
William Nylander, Leon Draisaitle, Brandon Point, David Pastrnak, Sam Reinhart, Aaron Ekblad, Gustav Forsling, Sam Bennett, Nikolaj Ehlers, and Adrian Kempe are all available in NHL Legacy 2016 for Playstation 3. 10 of the top 15 draft picks.
The game is basically the same as the previous 2 years but updated rosters and some gameplay tweaks that to me, make it the best hockey game ever made. 18 year old Conor McDavid has a face scan. Older game but it's brand new to me and freaking Awesome especially since I know the future and tweak the rosters to be more accurate.
If you take ANYONE other than Leon, especially Nylander, you're obviously a Leafer. Which means you are the only worse GM than an actual Leafs GM.
@ronryan7398 lol. I put 18+ players on their respective ahl teams to mimic real life. Mitchell Marner is also on Torontos Ahl team with Nylander as well as a 5 star potential Auston Mathews I created.
My franchise is Edmonton with McDavid, Leon, Phil Nurse.
1.Draisaitl 2. Pastrnak 3. Shesterkin 4 Sorokin. 5 Nylander. 6. Forsling. 7 Devon Toews. 8 Brayden Point. 9. Demko 10. Larkin. 11. Kempe 12. Reinhart 13. Bennet. 14. Ekblad. 15. Marcus Pettersson
Great video, you should make one about the 204 before Joe Pavelski
Thats a good one!
Or the two years in a row Detroit got late round gold...1998 with Datsyuk at 171 then 1999 with Zetterberg at 210. Of course, the only other player with significant NHL games that they got with the 17 picks between those two years was Jiri Fischer.
So basically we are thinking Nylander would have been picked 3rd, After Draistle 1st and Ekblad 2.
That sounds about right. Guess depends on if you needed a stud Dman or not
I think Willy is better than Ekblad but I’m a leafs fan so I watch Willy all the time.
Drai
Nylander
Pasta
Ekblad
Picks 1-4
Haydn Fleury 1st overall Go Jets Go
nylander is miles above exblad dude
Throughout NHL draft history there have been some real head scratchers , and my choice here is Draisaitl. For me the far beyond head scratcher is the three teams that took players ahead of Cale Makar . Amazing
The argument at the time was the level of competition Makar was playing against. Even on HFAvs, there were many folks questioning the decision; consensus choice at the time was Heiskanen if he made it to 4th (I would have been fine with that as well). Some support for Mittlestadt (who is now an Av) and even Vilardi IIRC. Had the Avs won the draft lottery, supposedly they still would have drafted Makar, but there would have been many tears in that case. Support was split between Patrick and Hischier for top forward (Nico was my choice between the 2). As much as I would like to say I was behind the Makar pick even before it happened...I wasn't. I was not against it, but I was one of those that were unconvinced due to his playing in the AJHL. Once college season started, I learned better quickly.
But as an Avs fan, I am glad the way it worked out.
Huge Leaf fan here, but I think I am being objective with this draft order (and it sure is easy when you can look back at ten years' results): 1 - Draisaitl; 2 - Ekblad; 3 - Nylander; 4 - Reinhart. I could be convinced to swap Nylander and Reinhart.
Leafs fan too, but you cant forget Pastrnak at 24th overall that year. He would be in top five for sure in re-draft
@@awaitingabsolution4935 you're right, probably at #5.
@@chrismyers99 Point
Dave Nonis drafted Nylander? Well he wasn't a total bust as a GM then.
Great video idea.
Thank you!
Damn, this draft was stacked.
Sure was
Good Video
Thank you!
My 2014 redraft:
1. Draisaitl
2. Shesterkin
3. Ekblad
4. Pastrnak
5. Point
6. Sorokin
7. Nylander
8. Reinhart
9. Toews
10. Larkin
Picks 6-9 could go any order and I would not argue much. I put Toews last of that bunch to counteract my bias as an Avs fan. But hey, at least we used our 1st round pick to draft *checks notes: the only 1st rounder that year to not play a single NHL game. Hell, the only player we drafted that year that got into any NHL games was 5th rounder Anton Lindholm with 66.
There was chatter of Teams moving up to take Drasaitl, and had him at 1st OA.
The thing is: There is a difference between recruiting a Swedish player vs. almost any other nationality. You get complete honesty and leadership. No BS. No hype. This is not the case with North American players and you are vain + money hungry. You want quality, you recruit from certain countries. Period.
1. Most of you have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael Nylander (dad) played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
2. Who the eff are some of these players drafted before him? Half of them are merely reaping the benefit of playing in Florida too. It is like Hyman in Edmonton.
@@matsinilsson9578 That statement is just weird.
@@andersjohansson3684 It is 100% clear and top-notch. Och du behover tagga ner och kamma luggen. Sta upp for Sverige. Oavsett vilket.
A small correction because it's little known:
Dany Heatley is German / German-born, too and was picked 2nd overall, so technically he still is the highest picked German-born player.
@@ChrisBender-dw4sh Heatley was born in Germany when his Canadian father was playing hockey there. I do not know if his mother was German or Canadian. If you are born in Germany you do not get German citizenship. Does Heatley have dual citizenship Canada & Germany, like Barkov has Finnish & Russian citizenships?
@@jaria4745 Yes. Heatley's mother is German and he does have dual citizenship. He was raised in Canada but he does speak German quite okay and he also finished his career in the DEL. He chose to play for Canada internationally but he had been totally eligible to play for Germany, too.
@@ChrisBender-dw4sh Danke Schön, ... Heatley is the 2nd best German player ever in NHL, only Draisaitl is bette,
2 different eye colors and 2 different passports 😎 Only 1 homicide tho 🫣
When are we going to get a video about jesper bratt
Thats a good one!
NYI making great draft picks as always lol
😂 yup
Toronto could have drafted Pasternak. He was drafted as #25 by the Bruins.
We love Willy in T.O we are good thanks
@tankdiggs8974 Sure, but with Pasta the Leafs could have won a couple of Stanley Cups
That's a joke lol @@jaria4745
@@jaria4745 pastrnak hasn't even won a ring with boston on a far more successful team in his 10 year career. he's a similar player so there's not much of a difference. there are a lot of great players who never win so switching doesn't mean anything when your team isn't good enough.
@cche16 During his NHL career Pasta has scored 360 goals vs Nylander 240. Pasta has over 700 points which is about 200 more than Nylander has. Nylander is good but Pasta would have been even better.
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Leon "The Final Solution" Draisaitl
LMAO
Not funny😮
Today, 10 years later my top draft list would be;
1. Draisaitl
2. Shestorkin
3. Pasternak
4. Point
5. Reinhart
6. Nylander
7. Ekblad ...
And Nylander hasnt helped the Leafs win a god damn thing!! SUCCESS!!!!!
Fair haha
Willy probably goes 3 after draisaitl and pastrnak in a re draft
Ya that’s solid
That's INSANE to see Florida has THREE of the top five pick on their team now!
Three of the top four
@@tkdmike9345 Let's trade Dria for Barky straight up *JUST TO MEME* . it would be cool having the top 4 draft picks from the same draft.
Everyone on this list is now either playing in the NHL or german DEL. Seems like the DEL is not as underrated as i thought.
Its not underrated, its bad. But it pays good salery and the guy ending up there already tryed NHL and KHL and are not good enugh. Bothe Swedish and finnish legue is better but pays worse.
@@TzOn79 why so salty bro? I didn't compare the DEL to KHL or any other league 😂 but as a matter of fact most of the times better salaries lead to better players joining the league. Just saying... maybe it will get more relevance in a few years with higher salaries.. and btw nobody else except the countries represented in the KHL care about this league, except for the NHL scouts ofc 😂
@timn3655 its not salty to say the truth.
DEL is where washed up players go to fade away. They can still get a fairly good salary there even though they have no future. Its the MLS of icehockey.
When are you gonna make the “what happened to the 134 players drafted before kirill kaprizov” video?
Its in the works! Its just a looong video haha
fr!!? Heck yea I’m pumped
Everyone up to and including Bennett should have been selected before Nylander (Bennett and Reinhardt have cup rings so any argument ends there) Drisaitle was obvious #1. But Nylander after Bennett although I'd have to review the draft and see if nayone later should have gone ahead. I imagine there will be. Nylander has elite skill but defensively hes a coin toss and he doesn't have the ability to put the team on his shoulders and dominate a game. He can be a game breaker but he needs the team to get him the puck in a position to score, he doesn't create his own oportunities enough. And if hes not scoring he doesn't give you anything else. All that said I still take him on my team any day. He's a guy you can build offense around. Whereas Mathews and Marner are more likely to take over a game either with dogged two way play and Mathews scoring touch or Marners ability to slow the game down and find guys anywhere on the ice.
NHL scouting is such crap. For example, in 2014 the Lightning chose 3 players, Tony Deangelo, Dominik Masin and Johnathan MacLeod before selecting at 79th pick BRAYDEN POINT. I don't think hockey scouts have any idea what they're doing beyond the first 5 picks. The sport needs someone to come in and moneyball the situation. You could argue Vegas did that for their cup I guess. I mean Kucherov was drafted 58th overall and was passed over by every team, including the Lightning at least once. Toronto passed over him twice.
Even if there was a re-draft, I think Willy was either chosen at the right spot or would have fallen further down the list, mainly because of his size and pedigree.
The knock on Willy in his draft year was his small frame (I think he was listed as something like 160-170 lb back then) and the fact that his father was the notoriously selfish Michael Nylander, so no one thought that he would put work into developing his physical strength, and his first two seasons with the Marlies/Leafs showed it.
His physical development wasn't noticeable until his fourth season, a year after playing a full season with the Leafs, where he was consistently questioned by Babcock and getting healthy scratched.
People used to question his style of play (and some still do), but if you've watched him play for the Marlies (which was the better ticket to buy back then), then you'd know that the style of play did not change at all. The reason it didn't work during his first couple of years with the Leafs was because he wasn't fast or strong enough to pull off that style of play at the NHL level, but because he has improved his strength and speed, his style of play looks to have been improved/changed.
You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
Fleury could be Marner’s brother
I mean didn’t Matthew Tkatchuk go like 5th after PLD Jesse Puliarvi and Liane? Mathew’s prob only player you could argue is better
I think nylander should go top 3
Absolutely
William Nylander was regarded as a great tallent, but beside the good draft class rivals he had was a lot of more related to the fact that a lot of NHL teams knew about his mind-set.
Nylander at young age had been viewed as kind of arrogant, with a lot of him believing he was valued high and his father, Michael Nylander who was a good player in his time had part to it.
I mean just the fact how Nylander was close to ruin his image with the contract signing of the Maple Leafs, demanding insane pay for a youngster so Swedish NHL legend Borje Samling had to step in and talk straight to the kid - "That money is not all, that if you value your career and the luxuary of being on NHL level, and being with the Leafs, you don't go this path further".
His name was spelled Mikael.
@@MisterMister5893 Ah true!!! My miss....
Disagree. It's not arrogance if it is true. And after feeling that he was arrogant for a long time, I've come to recognise, as many have, that they have mistaken confidence in himself and his abilities as arrogance. As far as that contract goes, he was not worth one penny less than what he got in that contract, and he wouldn't have gotten it otherwise. He sure proved he was worth more during that contract, didn't he?
@@chrismyers99 I have nothing against the kid. But he did not make himself likeble early on, but thank goodnes he matured up.
I can't say what he is worth to be honest. That is not for me to decide. But early on before proving he showed to much demanding.
@@WarioSaysSo You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
Moral of the story: go to Florida to rebound in the NHL
Ya pretty much 😂
Ekblad & Draisaitl have always been better players than Nylander. Reinhart & Bennett have become better than Nylander. But, I'm sure that the Islanders regret not taking Nylander at #5. Dylan Larkin and David Pasternak could have gone 5 & 6 and the Leafs would have still had Nylander at #7.
Bang on - the Isles regret a lot of things lol
@martinprice9441 are you mental? Bennett isn’t anywhere close to Nylander. A part from even watching them play, you can look at the difference in point totals in their careers and it’s easy to see how Nylander is way above Bennett. Reinhart had a great season last year and is playing wel this year, but he cannot drive a line or drive the play. He is a smart player that knows how to play with the panthers system and Barkov, but he is nowhere near as dynamic as Nylander. Just watch games and you can see how Nylander is often times the best player on the leafs depending on the game. He is that dynamic and talented and every year he continues to improve on his point totals. He should have had 100+ pts last year but he tailed off at the end likely due to migraine issues that like he had during the playoffs (he probably had them during the end of the season and into the playoffs). Ekblad is a good player but he is clearly not a top tier defensemen as evidence by the multitude of dmen taken above him for team Canada.. Weegar who didn’t even make team Canada is a much better player than ekblad offensively and defensively. I’d argue Nylander’s offensive potential and play driving even warrants drafting him ahead of Larkin (look at their point totals). And while this may be a hot take… Nylander could be even better than Pastrnak. It’s becoming very evident The bruins and Pasta probably overachieved last year with how poor they are playing this year. While pasta is good, he also doesn’t drive play and is as dynamic as Nylander is. Drai, Nylander, then Pasta are probably 1,2,3 picks in a redraft.
Saying Bennett has become better than nylander is a terrible take
@@noodkiller123No, it's not
Who is Bennett?
You are on crack if you think Willie was the best pick when Drai is in the same draft, Nylander could have went 3rd depending on your view of Ekblad.
Buffalo is where talent goes to die. Pretty much every player that leaves Buffalo wins the stanley cup
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Nylander is weak, he's not play-off material. I would take Draisaitle all day!
Nylander is a one dimensional player, that lacks defensive play and heart. There are 10-15 players in that draft that are a better than him.
You have NO CLUE what you are talking about. Michael played with Jagr and trained his ass off. William Nylander was the victim of the typical Canadian good ole boy Grapes mentality. Should never have been playing on 2nd line for Maple Leafs. Always meant to be a first liner. Always shows up during play offs. All of you should be coaching beer league. Including Grapes.
look up the 2011 draft...leafs 27th overall took tyler biggs..lol
look at the next 30 players after that...ill tell you 1...58th overall...KUCHEROV...LOL
How about the 24 before Pasta
too long a video
Did it already actually !
Caption should be what happened to the 2 players drafted before Draisaitle
short video
Pasta at 25th overall = better overall pick
The Sabres will be in rebuild continuously until the Maple Leafs win their next Stanley Cup...so, forever.
Virtanen lol
GET RID OF THE MUSIC!
Distracting?
@ Very! Never music when someone's talking!
This draft happen again and teams know what these players turned out be, i see him going 5th or 6th to mos5 teams
Helvete de har redan gått 10 år
As a Panther fan, I would rather have Bennett or Reinhart than Nylander. Both are better in the playoffs.
Nylander has 10 more playoff pts than Reinhart in one less game. Sam Bennett is elite in the playoffs and has 13 more points but has also played 30 more playoff games. Nylander sits at 0.79 points per playoff game. Bennett is 0.66 and Reinhart is 0.6. So nylander is actually more of a producer than both of them in the playoffs, on a much worse team
1. Draisaitl
2. Pastrnak
3. Nylander
4. Point
5. Shesterkin
6. Reinhart
7. Sorokin
8. Larkin
9. Toews
10. Demko
Point and shesterkin > Nylander, could argue Reinhart too
@mememachine2013 True, you can def make an argument for Point and Shesty, goalies value are too inconsistent imo too put Igor above, but peak Igor is above Nylander thats for sure. Point is really a toss up, Reinhart id say took too long to get going but rn there pretty much neck and neck
@@floodz2089 point has similar or slightly better numbers if I remember correctly and he plays center which is the reason I have him above. Sam and willy are a Toss up imo and I agree about goalies it depends, I just think he's the best goalie in the League so I give him the edge over willy
@@mememachine2013 Fair enough id say thats a decent take. Point as more elite seasons and the cups to show for it, I just think Willy as more skills and a higher production ceilling. But yeah Point plays center and as a mote rounded up game overall, tough to say for sure
OHH, the Ekblad disrespect! Someone go ask McDavid who he least enjoyed playing against during the Cup Finals....I'll wait.
Outside the top 5 in a complete re-draft, understandable. But you seriously just listed Toews?!
I wonder if any of those top 5 teams would have won cups or made the finals had they been waiting for Willie to develop at 7M per year. I don’t think so. He’s a man now, playing like a true 7M dollar player, problem is Toronto is paying him 11.5M now so NO DEPTH FOR YOU LEAFS!
Now all of the sudden Nylander is a hero,lol? Wasn't long ago they wanted to run him out of town, fairweather fans strike again.
Thats Leaf nation for ya haha
You clowns literally make things up and then cry about it. Take your pills and sit tf back down.
It's ALL redundant in the end, cuz T'rana won't make it past the 1st round. Don't beLEAF me...check your team history. 📚
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The Canucks took juollevi over thackuk
And Virtanen over Nylander 🤦♂️🤔🤦♂️
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