What Happened to the 7 Players Drafted Before William Nylander?

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  • @evenmoreevil
    @evenmoreevil 23 години тому +83

    Florida has the 1st, 2nd and 4th overall from the 2014 draft on their current roster. Damn…

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  23 години тому +8

      Crazy right

    • @barrybrennan1045
      @barrybrennan1045 11 годин тому +12

      No taxes and palm-trees help

    • @tkdmike9345
      @tkdmike9345 9 годин тому +1

      @@barrybrennan1045Lol. FLA had the second worst record and got lucky in the lottery, and the other two are from trades. How exactly does low taxes and palm trees explain that?

    • @williamrobinson604
      @williamrobinson604 8 годин тому +5

      @@tkdmike9345 Smart trades, good management. No taxes and palm trees are perks.

    • @deansmith6593
      @deansmith6593 6 годин тому +3

      @@tkdmike9345 The two trades of course. Players want to play and stay in Florida because of the warm weather and no income taxes. Maybe you should think more and LOL less.

  • @XIIIRaven
    @XIIIRaven 17 годин тому +19

    As a Sabres fan it breaks my heart how many franchise players we let go for peanuts it kills me I mean I love underdog stories but ffs 😢

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  17 годин тому +2

      Reeeally tough times for the Sabres these days

    • @williewalker8048
      @williewalker8048 12 годин тому

      Currently, they have 3 defensemen who were drafted in the 1st round...how soon before they are down to only one?

    • @barrybrennan1045
      @barrybrennan1045 11 годин тому +1

      No taxes and palm-trees vs lake-effect snowdrifts and chicken wings…

    • @ksteele8388
      @ksteele8388 10 годин тому

      And the fact that they are still in rebuild mode and terrible should be concerning as well 😅

  • @Gergentine
    @Gergentine 18 годин тому +22

    That was a crazy draft. In hindsight I'd personally rank my top 15 as
    1. Draisaitle
    2.Shesterkin
    3.Point
    4.Pasta
    5.Nylander
    6.Reinhardt
    7.Demko
    8.Ekblad
    9.Teows
    10.Forsling
    11.Bennett
    12.Sorokin
    13.Larkin
    14.Ehlers
    15.Kempe
    Obviously, many of these were not expected to be as good as they turned out to be.

    • @JH-jw7pu
      @JH-jw7pu 18 годин тому +5

      God damn, that truly is a stacked draft. Makes me more pissed that the Canucks picked Virtanen (🤮). I can only imagine what it would have been like if they drafted Nylander and he played with Petey. Could’ve been a completely different type of Swedish connection 😔

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  18 годин тому

      Stacked draft!

    • @tjones17
      @tjones17 15 годин тому +1

      point is not better than nylander, i’d argue pasta isn’t either

    • @WalkableBulb905
      @WalkableBulb905 15 годин тому +2

      ​@@tjones17As a Leafs fan. I think Point is better than Willy. Pasta I'm not so sure

    • @tjones17
      @tjones17 15 годин тому +2

      @@WalkableBulb905 i’m taking nylander over both but they’re all amazing players

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras 23 години тому +19

    So basically we are thinking Nylander would have been picked 3rd, After Draistle 1st and Ekblad 2.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  23 години тому +8

      That sounds about right. Guess depends on if you needed a stud Dman or not

    • @Sinfonia_anhedonia
      @Sinfonia_anhedonia 22 години тому +5

      I think Willy is better than Ekblad but I’m a leafs fan so I watch Willy all the time.

    • @mariokart-j5n
      @mariokart-j5n 18 годин тому +5

      Drai
      Nylander
      Pasta
      Ekblad
      Picks 1-4

    • @melono5398
      @melono5398 17 годин тому +3

      Haydn Fleury 1st overall Go Jets Go

    • @tjones17
      @tjones17 15 годин тому +8

      nylander is miles above exblad dude

  • @WarioSaysSo
    @WarioSaysSo 11 годин тому +2

    William Nylander was regarded as a great tallent, but beside the good draft class rivals he had was a lot of more related to the fact that a lot of NHL teams knew about his mind-set.
    Nylander at young age had been viewed as kind of arrogant, with a lot of him believing he was valued high and his father, Michael Nylander who was a good player in his time had part to it.
    I mean just the fact how Nylander was close to ruin his image with the contract signing of the Maple Leafs, demanding insane pay for a youngster so Swedish NHL legend Borje Samling had to step in and talk straight to the kid - "That money is not all, that if you value your career and the luxuary of being on NHL level, and being with the Leafs, you don't go this path further".

  • @ChisokuKing
    @ChisokuKing 7 годин тому +5

    Man, there was a tweet in there saying "Leon 'The Final Solution' Draisaitl". How did they not screen that one?

  • @ChrisBender-dw4sh
    @ChrisBender-dw4sh 16 годин тому +1

    A small correction because it's little known:
    Dany Heatley is German / German-born, too and was picked 2nd overall, so technically he still is the highest picked German-born player.

    • @jaria4745
      @jaria4745 11 годин тому

      @@ChrisBender-dw4sh Heatley was born in Germany when his Canadian father was playing hockey there. I do not know if his mother was German or Canadian. If you are born in Germany you do not get German citizenship. Does Heatley have dual citizenship Canada & Germany, like Barkov has Finnish & Russian citizenships?

    • @ChrisBender-dw4sh
      @ChrisBender-dw4sh 10 годин тому +1

      @@jaria4745 Yes. Heatley's mother is German and he does have dual citizenship. He was raised in Canada but he does speak German quite okay and he also finished his career in the DEL. He chose to play for Canada internationally but he had been totally eligible to play for Germany, too.

    • @jaria4745
      @jaria4745 5 годин тому

      @@ChrisBender-dw4sh Danke Schön, ... Heatley is the 2nd best German player ever in NHL, only Draisaitl is bette,

  • @MakeMeMiko
    @MakeMeMiko 4 години тому +1

    Great video idea.

  • @tkdmike9345
    @tkdmike9345 9 годин тому +3

    As a Panther fan, I would rather have Bennett or Reinhart than Nylander. Both are better in the playoffs.

  • @TMLJunK
    @TMLJunK 5 годин тому +1

    Even if there was a re-draft, I think Willy was either chosen at the right spot or would have fallen further down the list, mainly because of his size and pedigree.
    The knock on Willy in his draft year was his small frame (I think he was listed as something like 160-170 lb back then) and the fact that his father was the notoriously selfish Michael Nylander, so no one thought that he would put work into developing his physical strength, and his first two seasons with the Marlies/Leafs showed it.
    His physical development wasn't noticeable until his fourth season, a year after playing a full season with the Leafs, where he was consistently questioned by Babcock and getting healthy scratched.
    People used to question his style of play (and some still do), but if you've watched him play for the Marlies (which was the better ticket to buy back then), then you'd know that the style of play did not change at all. The reason it didn't work during his first couple of years with the Leafs was because he wasn't fast or strong enough to pull off that style of play at the NHL level, but because he has improved his strength and speed, his style of play looks to have been improved/changed.

  • @Theon435
    @Theon435 7 годин тому +3

    When are we going to get a video about jesper bratt

  • @MrBrody420
    @MrBrody420 5 годин тому +1

    NYI making great draft picks as always lol

  • @XWolf_Roblox
    @XWolf_Roblox 5 годин тому +1

    I think nylander should go top 3

  • @jaria4745
    @jaria4745 15 годин тому +4

    Toronto could have drafted Pasternak. He was drafted as #25 by the Bruins.

    • @tankdiggs8974
      @tankdiggs8974 8 годин тому +3

      We love Willy in T.O we are good thanks

    • @jaria4745
      @jaria4745 5 годин тому

      @tankdiggs8974 Sure, but with Pasta the Leafs could have won a couple of Stanley Cups

    • @kylemeridith9611
      @kylemeridith9611 5 годин тому

      That's a joke lol ​@@jaria4745

  • @timn3655
    @timn3655 13 годин тому +3

    Everyone on this list is now either playing in the NHL or german DEL. Seems like the DEL is not as underrated as i thought.

    • @TzOn79
      @TzOn79 8 годин тому

      Its not underrated, its bad. But it pays good salery and the guy ending up there already tryed NHL and KHL and are not good enugh. Bothe Swedish and finnish legue is better but pays worse.

    • @timn3655
      @timn3655 4 години тому

      ​@@TzOn79 why so salty bro? I didn't compare the DEL to KHL or any other league 😂 but as a matter of fact most of the times better salaries lead to better players joining the league. Just saying... maybe it will get more relevance in a few years with higher salaries.. and btw nobody else except the countries represented in the KHL care about this league, except for the NHL scouts ofc 😂

    • @TzOn79
      @TzOn79 4 години тому

      @timn3655 its not salty to say the truth.

  • @hockey_all_star5895
    @hockey_all_star5895 5 годин тому +1

    Willy probably goes 3 after draisaitl and pastrnak in a re draft

  • @mariovaccarella6854
    @mariovaccarella6854 10 годин тому +1

    Good Video

  • @martinprice9441
    @martinprice9441 20 годин тому +5

    Ekblad & Draisaitl have always been better players than Nylander. Reinhart & Bennett have become better than Nylander. But, I'm sure that the Islanders regret not taking Nylander at #5. Dylan Larkin and David Pasternak could have gone 5 & 6 and the Leafs would have still had Nylander at #7.

    • @beyond_thebench
      @beyond_thebench  20 годин тому +1

      Bang on - the Isles regret a lot of things lol

    • @mariokart-j5n
      @mariokart-j5n 18 годин тому

      @martinprice9441 are you mental? Bennett isn’t anywhere close to Nylander. A part from even watching them play, you can look at the difference in point totals in their careers and it’s easy to see how Nylander is way above Bennett. Reinhart had a great season last year and is playing wel this year, but he cannot drive a line or drive the play. He is a smart player that knows how to play with the panthers system and Barkov, but he is nowhere near as dynamic as Nylander. Just watch games and you can see how Nylander is often times the best player on the leafs depending on the game. He is that dynamic and talented and every year he continues to improve on his point totals. He should have had 100+ pts last year but he tailed off at the end likely due to migraine issues that like he had during the playoffs (he probably had them during the end of the season and into the playoffs). Ekblad is a good player but he is clearly not a top tier defensemen as evidence by the multitude of dmen taken above him for team Canada.. Weegar who didn’t even make team Canada is a much better player than ekblad offensively and defensively. I’d argue Nylander’s offensive potential and play driving even warrants drafting him ahead of Larkin (look at their point totals). And while this may be a hot take… Nylander could be even better than Pastrnak. It’s becoming very evident The bruins and Pasta probably overachieved last year with how poor they are playing this year. While pasta is good, he also doesn’t drive play and is as dynamic as Nylander is. Drai, Nylander, then Pasta are probably 1,2,3 picks in a redraft.

    • @noodkiller123
      @noodkiller123 15 годин тому +6

      Saying Bennett has become better than nylander is a terrible take

    • @jeffreycairns767
      @jeffreycairns767 13 годин тому

      ​@@noodkiller123No, it's not

    • @staffan144
      @staffan144 12 годин тому +2

      Who is Bennett?

  • @mccabber24
    @mccabber24 11 годин тому

    8:24
    Leon "The Final Solution" Draisaitl
    LMAO

  • @eddieMFsauceboy
    @eddieMFsauceboy 8 годин тому +2

    Pasta at 25th overall = better overall pick

  • @MotterPotter
    @MotterPotter 6 годин тому +3

    You are on crack if you think Willie was the best pick when Drai is in the same draft, Nylander could have went 3rd depending on your view of Ekblad.

  • @faunbudweis
    @faunbudweis 9 годин тому +2

    How about the 24 before Pasta

  • @evelynbeverley2277
    @evelynbeverley2277 8 годин тому +2

    The Sabres will be in rebuild continuously until the Maple Leafs win their next Stanley Cup...so, forever.

  • @lunar33icious
    @lunar33icious 15 годин тому

    That's INSANE to see Florida has THREE of the top five pick on their team now!

    • @tkdmike9345
      @tkdmike9345 9 годин тому

      Three of the top four

    • @TnT_13_
      @TnT_13_ 3 години тому

      @@tkdmike9345 Let's trade Dria for Barky straight up *JUST TO MEME* . it would be cool having the top 4 draft picks from the same draft.

  • @loilt5091
    @loilt5091 4 години тому +1

    It's ALL redundant in the end, cuz T'rana won't make it past the 1st round. Don't beLEAF me...check your team history. 📚

  • @Ripwanvinkle.00
    @Ripwanvinkle.00 9 годин тому +1

    Caption should be what happened to the 2 players drafted before Draisaitle

  • @floodz2089
    @floodz2089 13 годин тому +2

    1. Draisaitl
    2. Pastrnak
    3. Nylander
    4. Point
    5. Shesterkin
    6. Reinhart
    7. Sorokin
    8. Larkin
    9. Toews
    10. Demko

    • @mememachine2013
      @mememachine2013 7 годин тому +1

      Point and shesterkin > Nylander, could argue Reinhart too

    • @floodz2089
      @floodz2089 7 годин тому

      @mememachine2013 True, you can def make an argument for Point and Shesty, goalies value are too inconsistent imo too put Igor above, but peak Igor is above Nylander thats for sure. Point is really a toss up, Reinhart id say took too long to get going but rn there pretty much neck and neck

    • @mememachine2013
      @mememachine2013 7 годин тому +1

      @@floodz2089 point has similar or slightly better numbers if I remember correctly and he plays center which is the reason I have him above. Sam and willy are a Toss up imo and I agree about goalies it depends, I just think he's the best goalie in the League so I give him the edge over willy

    • @floodz2089
      @floodz2089 6 годин тому +1

      @@mememachine2013 Fair enough id say thats a decent take. Point as more elite seasons and the cups to show for it, I just think Willy as more skills and a higher production ceilling. But yeah Point plays center and as a mote rounded up game overall, tough to say for sure

    • @TnT_13_
      @TnT_13_ 3 години тому

      OHH, the Ekblad disrespect! Someone go ask McDavid who he least enjoyed playing against during the Cup Finals....I'll wait.
      Outside the top 5 in a complete re-draft, understandable. But you seriously just listed Toews?!

  • @shirleydaley5335
    @shirleydaley5335 11 годин тому

    This draft happen again and teams know what these players turned out be, i see him going 5th or 6th to mos5 teams

  • @tristanbouvy
    @tristanbouvy День тому +2

    1

  • @JimmiJuiceHockey
    @JimmiJuiceHockey 10 годин тому

    I wonder if any of those top 5 teams would have won cups or made the finals had they been waiting for Willie to develop at 7M per year. I don’t think so. He’s a man now, playing like a true 7M dollar player, problem is Toronto is paying him 11.5M now so NO DEPTH FOR YOU LEAFS!

  • @EmitRelevart
    @EmitRelevart 12 годин тому +1

    Cough-Up-The-Puck-Willy? No player on the Leafs frustrates me more than Willy.
    ⛔Cons:
    🟡 He's one of the *_laziest players_* I've seen in many years (and I've been watching the Leafs for over 55 years).
    🟡 The puck could be within 2 quick strides, but he'll let an opposing player (or teammate) go get it (he's got better things to do, like float around the center or opposing blue line waiting for a breakaway).
    🟡 He almost *_never backchecks,_* unless the coach has recently balled him out about it.
    🟡 He'll almost never go in after the puck first because he's *_scared of getting hit_* (he's a coward... you'll never see him take a hit to make a play).
    🟡 At least once in almost every PP he'll *_cough up the puck_* in a dumb-ass pass near the blue line, usually to an opposing forward who then shoots the blue line and goes in for a breakaway, unless a Leaf defender can catch him (because we all know Willy is too pretty and important to chase down the guy he just coughed up the puck to). He did this 3 times in the last game against the Stars, causing so much unnecessary mayhem (and eating up most of the PP time).
    🟡 Causes almost *_as many goals against_* as he scores (he's a well-deserved -2 so far this season. Last season he was only a +1).
    🟡 Way *_too expensive._* The 2 or 3 other players for the same price could probably produce as many goals, and even more opportunities. Just doesn't seem worth the money.
    🔵Pros:
    🟢 Is rarely injured (hard to get injured when you rarely fight for the puck and rarely go into the boards first to get the puck).
    🟢 Can often find an open spot to get a good quality shot off.
    🟢 Has a great shot.
    🟢 Becomes a different player in the playoffs (if he doesn't suddenly get a headache and decides he can't play) and does quite well at reducing many of his "cons".
    Now, that's not to say Nylander isn't capable of doing all those wonderful things you look for in a forward. In fact, we've seen him back-check really well, and win puck battles, and make some really good passes. He could be an absolute super-star if he weren't so lazy, and that's what makes him so bloody frustrating to watch. But he's just too lazy to do the "complete player" things on a regular basis. He's much too pretty for all that nonsense.
    Just look at Matthews... he'll go get his own puck no problem, and one of his fortes is not only back-checking, but stealing the puck off an opponent from behind.

    • @TheOtherLeafFanHAWKTUAH
      @TheOtherLeafFanHAWKTUAH 10 годин тому +1

      no.

    • @jwleaf
      @jwleaf 7 годин тому

      Typical Canadian racism, "Chicken Swede", is that whats behind your nr 4 on cons?

    • @EmitRelevart
      @EmitRelevart 2 години тому

      ​@@jwleaf Um... William Nylander was born in Calgary, Canada LOL That means he has a Canadian birth certificate, and that makes him a Canadian regardless of where he decides to live for 2 months in the summer or what national team he plays for.
      Funny how Swedes like OEL, Holmberg, and Jarnkrok have no problems taking a hit to make a play and going into the corners after the puck.
      Nah, your little race card excuse doesn't quite cut it, and there's plenty of video to support my statements but it seems pretty clear that you're the type person to ignore receipts and remain living in your delusion.
      I love how people try to play the race card to explain inadequacies.
      And by they way, nationality is not a race.