The Cost of Owning a Maserati - 130,000 Miles & 18 Years of Invoices Counted

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  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars  10 місяців тому +2

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  • @daniels.2720
    @daniels.2720 10 місяців тому +95

    There are 2 reasons to NOT keep receipts:
    A) fear she'll see them
    B) fear I'll add them up

  • @jenshaga4256
    @jenshaga4256 10 місяців тому +31

    A yearly expense of 3 000 GBP on average is actually not that horrific, considering it is a daily driver and an enthusiast's car. And pretty much all the work done to it was all normal maintainance (no gearbox failures or such things). Many of the items that Mr. JayEmm had to pay for were repairs of old, bad repairs.
    Finally, most cars don't get to see their eighteenth birthday (average lifespan is 10 years). This Maserati is still going and is worth quite a lot. Thanks for an interesting video. Cheers

    • @wizzyno1566
      @wizzyno1566 8 місяців тому

      Average car lifespan in the UK is 14 years. In the USA its higher.
      The maserati has lost 80% of its value.
      I'm not saying it's bad, just saying it's not that unusual.

  • @MarcPagan
    @MarcPagan 10 місяців тому +94

    Holy smokes, the expenses one incurs owning a Maserati, are on par with owning an aircraft.
    To keep this G rated, I've modified the words of my first flight instructor:
    "If it flies, floats, or fornicates
    ....it's cheaper to rent it."

    • @igordewit7357
      @igordewit7357 10 місяців тому +10

      Now THATS some solid words of wisdom there...for real.

    • @MrAjjm65
      @MrAjjm65 10 місяців тому +2

      Never a truer word spoken!

    • @Alfa_davo
      @Alfa_davo 10 місяців тому +3

      ⁠​⁠@@Emira_75I don’t believe the fornicates part was directed at females….its directed at animals such as horses for example. Planes, boats and animals…rent them, don’t own them.

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 10 місяців тому

      Hardly.

    • @janstaes2172
      @janstaes2172 10 місяців тому +1

      holy smokes, thats expensive to own. my mercedes W205 250 4matic uses 1 full set of tires a year. (i drive 24854 miles a year.)

  • @dadcars
    @dadcars 10 місяців тому +21

    That saved me a lot of time going through it all 🙌 thanks for covering the recent invoice 😅 I’ll take it from here 😚

  • @mariusnenu
    @mariusnenu 10 місяців тому +38

    Maaan, as a guy who likes to work on his cars, records and itemise all the parts, dates, mileages, etc. I found this video to be very satisfying and enjoyable.
    And I must admit the costs over the life of the vehicle, smaller than expected.

    • @Jake-im2lv
      @Jake-im2lv 10 місяців тому +3

      I get a little dopamine release uploading my parts receipts to google drive and entering all my maintenance into my spreadsheets with links to those receipts and cost totals etc lol

    • @r0b3rt_959
      @r0b3rt_959 10 місяців тому

      That's small if nothing goes horribly wrong

  • @bentoole6205
    @bentoole6205 10 місяців тому +14

    Something to bear in mind is that this Gransport has exceptionally high mileage, the highest I’ve ever seen, the average for these is around 40/50 thousand. It will have needed more items and parts replaced. The one I have is currently sitting at 45k with an extensive service history, enthusiast owned car and is nowhere near this total cost but it’s the same age as this car. Interesting to hear and good video!

  • @leongiles3496
    @leongiles3496 10 місяців тому +107

    Italian cars, like pretty girls, break your bank account... and your heart... but there is something about them that makes you willingly come back for more. Great video James... thanks for all your hard work!

    • @anastassiosperakis2869
      @anastassiosperakis2869 10 місяців тому +7

      you can't take them with you, so it's better to spend them and enjoy them. Somebody should tell ME that.

    • @Phil-q7h
      @Phil-q7h 10 місяців тому +3

      Nah, you can keep both. The women and the Italian cars

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 10 місяців тому

      So masochism.

    • @MrAjjm65
      @MrAjjm65 10 місяців тому

      @@Phil-q7hWomen! I love the use of the plural word, one woman is expensive enough for me!

    • @Kref3
      @Kref3 10 місяців тому +16

      I once sat next to a Swedish guy in an airplane and we somehow came into talking. He told me about his sailing boat at a Marina near Stockholm and what went wrong this year alone. I said: „Wow, expensive hobby, isn‘t it?“ He replied with a sentence I have stored in my memory ever since: „If it floats, flies or f#cks, it‘s cheaper to rent; but where‘s the fun in that?“

  • @JeremyOneal-kc5sc
    @JeremyOneal-kc5sc 10 місяців тому +20

    I must be stupid because I own 4 Maseratis from 1987-2006. I love depreciation and buyer fear. And yeah... if you play hard, you'll pay hard. The tire and handbrake counts says it all. Driven hard and put up wet for 18 years/130K miles and that's all that's been needed? I'm looking for Maserati #5!

    • @LordLauderdale
      @LordLauderdale 10 місяців тому

      Yeah. Leaving car exposed to the elements causes most issues.

    • @simondavies4603
      @simondavies4603 10 місяців тому

      Fully agree. This is a high mileage, hard driven car. Subsequently little expense has been spared on its upkeep. The lifetime costs sound really reasonable, especially if you compare with a Ferrari of the same era.

    • @JeremyOneal-kc5sc
      @JeremyOneal-kc5sc 10 місяців тому +4

      I owned an Alfa Spider for 7 years, and a Ferrari 308 for 13 years after my Alfa got pummelled in a hailstorm. I always feared the 308 would throw a timing belt or catch fire, or it would leave me stranded. None of that happened, but I could never fully enjoy driving it. I sold it for a healthy profit, then missed the italian character. I looked for another Alfa, then I discovered Maserati. So much bang for the buck and more driver enjoyment than any 308 could have. I love them all, yes even the Biturbo. The perfect enthusiast and tinker cars. They are never boring or mundane. And I love the cambiocorsa because once you learn it, it is glorious... except in stop n go city driving. It hates crawling thru mall parking lots just as much as I do, just one more reason to adore it. And I enjoy them all fearlessly. Life's too short to not own one.

    • @simondavies4603
      @simondavies4603 10 місяців тому +1

      @@JeremyOneal-kc5sc I love them too. They are never boring or mundane, and you are right about the cambio-corsa. Maseratis are grand tourers: at their happiest on the open road rather than the school run!. Plus you get the most divine music from the exhaust: no one else creates the beautiful baritone song of the Maserati. Hang on to yours: the brand is on the up!

  • @IvanDP1967
    @IvanDP1967 10 місяців тому +15

    Broken down over 18 years, I'd say that was pretty reasonable for a beautiful Italian GT/sportscar, especially one with a Ferrari derived heart.
    OK, it's probably a lot more than your average car, but a Maserati will never be an "average" car.
    Many thanks for sharing

    • @johns944S2
      @johns944S2 10 місяців тому +4

      I totally agree . I own a blu mediterraneo gransport just like this one and these are all common issues. A lot can be saved by diy. Like the cam cover gaskets, sensor replacement ,coils and plugs as well as oil changes. Nice video and much appreciated.

  • @simonshaffer
    @simonshaffer 10 місяців тому +17

    You sir, are a damn hard working chap, and it shows in your content. Well done!

    • @daniels.2720
      @daniels.2720 10 місяців тому +1

      ... and the 2 Big Blue Books!!

    • @badgersalesman5595
      @badgersalesman5595 10 місяців тому

      He does less than an NHS Nurse ( and let me tell you. They do naff all ) that’s why they are all obese

  • @scottwilkinson9521
    @scottwilkinson9521 10 місяців тому +3

    Bought new, 2007 Blu aniversary Gransport. 6300 miles to date 2023. Not serviced by main dealer in 5 years, not driven much in 8 or 9. Mileage is the be all and end all when it comes to running costs. I dont plan on ever selling it. I might go back to Greypaul Nottingham for a checkup next year as its been a while. Its an absolutely cracking weekend car even now, always turns ears and then heads. Horses for courses.

  • @rupertorgan7749
    @rupertorgan7749 10 місяців тому +13

    As a serial Italian car owner of the lesser brands, I can identify with a lot of the recurring problems with the Maserati, in particular the constant handbrake adjustment. It also sounds like the first couple of owners drove the door handles off the car and ignored certain issues that didn't directly affect the running of the car. It proves that you have to have commitment (aka large cojones and deep pockets) to take on a used Italian car.

  • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
    @anidiotinaracingcar4874 10 місяців тому +4

    I've done the same math on a 100000+ km Ferrari 456, it was about 1€ per km (at a specialist, not Ferrari)

  • @sangxu5391
    @sangxu5391 10 місяців тому +12

    Good job breaking this down for common folks who want a 20-30k bargain exotics. The take away is, unless you are comfortable spending 5k yearly on service alone, don’t think about it. And that’s for a good condition one without major failure….
    Can you possibly do another sich video on a 996 or 997 Carrera, just to have a comparison?

    • @DontPanicDear
      @DontPanicDear 10 місяців тому

      It’s not just the cost for me!
      It’s the uncertainty of ruined holidays, days out and other plans.
      The rubbish bodged jobs even reputedly top garages drive you mad too.
      These work as a labour of love 3rd car.
      But is one of these really enough fun to justify these expenses? I say no 😢

    • @LordLauderdale
      @LordLauderdale 10 місяців тому +1

      From experience with a 997.1, 996.1, 987.1, 987.2 they are around 1-2 k per year if serviced regularly excluding tyres.

    • @hensh911
      @hensh911 10 місяців тому +3

      I’ve worked this out for my 997.1, details in my comment above. Summary is about £2600 per year for me.

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas 10 місяців тому +10

    If ever we need a proof that James deserves being a car journalist, not just a youtuber, here it is. Such rigorous research on bundles of service histories, comprehensively packaged.

  • @MF-jp5vp
    @MF-jp5vp 10 місяців тому +1

    SUPERB! Excellent and honest Video....I've got a 3 year old Maserati Lavente V6, and I've had it for just over a year. My first service experience will be next year, within warranty period. So far the only costs have been the first MOT and a new windscreen at £2,500 (covered by my Insurance company 😍). No surprise sadly that the older a car gets, the more bits need replaceing and so the 'payouts' keep rising. With a newer car these additional cost's are lower BUT we know that bill for depreciation is waiting for you....🤔😁). Oh I've also got a 2002 Skodia Fabia cost me £395 5 years ago, and I've spent £495 in past year, and it needs four new tyres....and it's gonna get them....I love cars🥰

  • @jeandearme32
    @jeandearme32 10 місяців тому +2

    I love when airbag switch replacement kicked in suddenly tires didn't got changed so often. What a correlation

  • @tiguanman1170
    @tiguanman1170 10 місяців тому +5

    I would guess that the tyres were replaced by the Main Dealer so that would have been a Retail plus prices. I keep spreadsheets for my cars and record fuel costs, servicing costs, repair costs and standing charges. The total is pretty high but a brand new car of that performance on a PCP would cost much more per annum than £3500. I would use Camskill for tyres and find a very good independent garage to service it. Will never be cheap but the rewards will be in driving it.

  • @garyminion9610
    @garyminion9610 10 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyed that incite into the cost of ownership, more difficult to keep folders on the more modern stuff with digital servicing, ie you don't tend to get a print out or book stamped anymore.

  • @pcr8918
    @pcr8918 10 місяців тому +21

    Always wondered so thank you. For what it’s worth £3000 in 2008 is £5000 in today’s money. Interesting that a service at main dealers was around a thousand and many years later independents were still £1000. Pleased to note my 18 year old Italian Panda sailed through MOT today.

    • @kristianniss5201
      @kristianniss5201 10 місяців тому +3

      Ah, the luxurious Italian Panda. Brave of you to own an older Italian exotic

    • @TH-lo9ei
      @TH-lo9ei 10 місяців тому

      Inflation adjustment is always an interesting point to consider (I am not sure, if this was taken into consideration in this video?).
      Mr. JayEmm's content is always a pleasure to watch.

  • @seanbyrne8767
    @seanbyrne8767 10 місяців тому +4

    Of topic but i like the Claud Butler bike mate. I noticed them Judy Rock shocks straight away 👌🏼. Had my knicked last month 😢

  • @paultucker1272
    @paultucker1272 10 місяців тому +2

    About 18 years ago I toyed with the idea of buying a 3200 (gotta love those boomerang lights) as you could get them for about £18k, but I did my homework and the servicing costs scared the crap out of me! It was a V8 coupe I lusted after, so turned my attention to more humdrum examples, notably the Vauxhall Monaro and Ford Mustang. I went for the latter and I haven’t regretted it for a second. Parts are mostly dirt cheap. Since Covid shipping prices have gone nuts, but the Mustang is still a relatively cheap car to run. I’d love a DB9 but I suspect that will still require £2-3k a year even using independent specialists. Worth it for those looks alone though 😊

  • @Nialletto
    @Nialletto 10 місяців тому +1

    Definitely less than expected... Thank you for putting the time in. :)

  • @mik15ful
    @mik15ful 10 місяців тому +6

    I would say around 50% of its original MSRP…i had an RS6 first gen that i bought when the car was around 11 years old and 140k miles and had all the invoices since new(tires, fuel and insurance excluded) and I did what you did here and came up to a total of around $35k or an average of $3500/year, which is not bad given the car you drive…it becomes worrying when you take into account the huge depreciation, but then again you had the privilege of driving an awesome car

  • @steveyoung3869
    @steveyoung3869 10 місяців тому +3

    "Because of all of this I thought it would be pretty sorted..." That's interesting, because my reaction to 2 full binders of receipts is that this is a car that's never going to be properly sorted and will always require lots of money and attention. To quote Shakespeare's Tempest, "What's past is prologue."

  • @james.james99
    @james.james99 10 місяців тому +7

    Most of this is just routine servicing and consumables like tyres and brakes. The odd sensor, a clutch at 80,000 miles which is quite frankly superb as far as wear goes, and parts under the car that have corroded due to the British weather.
    I can’t imagine that a 997 would have cost any less to run over the same period. Particularly with the well known engine problems that those come with.
    If you did all this work yourself, the bill would have been about a third of what it is currently

    • @GTFour
      @GTFour 10 місяців тому

      The second clutch at less than 100k miles is a big scare

    • @elnyoutube123
      @elnyoutube123 10 місяців тому

      @@GTFour it's really depends how you drive it. Sounds like the second owner drove like a complete maniac lol

    • @james.james99
      @james.james99 10 місяців тому

      @@GTFour completely depends on the driver. My Gransport has about 20k miles on its current clutch and the computer says 15% worn. If you have mechanical sympathy, 60-80k miles should be no problem. If you’re expecting Corolla running costs, any Maserati, Porsche, Aston Martin, Jaguar etc should not be on your radar

    • @GTFour
      @GTFour 10 місяців тому

      @@james.james99 No one is expecting Corolla running costs and no opinion of that nature has been expressed. 80k from a performance clutch is fine. The second clutch they had lasted ~15k. That’s surely not a driver issue. Unless the driver was riding the clutch like a learner! But it’s not a manual 3 pedal clutch to even do that.

    • @james.james99
      @james.james99 10 місяців тому

      @@GTFour it’s very easy to ride the clutch in an automated manual. This can be done by creeping in traffic, reversing uphill and bad launches/jerky driving. If driven smoothly they generally last in the same way that a manual will. In my experience, the clutch throw out bearing will wear out before the clutch does

  • @hensh911
    @hensh911 10 місяців тому +2

    Good video. It shows you need to have money aside for maintenance.
    I worked this out for my 2008 997.1 C2S coupe manual earlier this year, currently on 79k miles. They say £2k ish per year is about right: I’m at £10k, which is over 45 months and 34k miles. Including two sets of PS4S tyres (£1800), alloys refurbished x 2, front end PPF. New rotors and pads following track days too. Also had front end respray but that was paid for by someone else’s insurance at around £2k. This total excludes insurance and petrol, it does include preventative maintenance so not everything that has been done was needed.
    But the car is pretty damn good now.

  • @Tracertme
    @Tracertme 10 місяців тому +3

    I had one of these in period owned it for 8 years, it never broke down or left me stranded. Had a few false engine light type warnings, which were easily fixed and only lost 15k when I sold it… so a beautiful ownership..❤ all on the same clutch as well, given I don’t do much city driving in it.. or stop start…. My experience of relying on main dealers to tell you about the pIS clutch settings and % wear is extremely inaccurate…. Just remember it’s electro hydraulic but otherwise a manual and ignore all their stupid software of the period… you could quite literally take it to one shop and they would tell you it’s in good shape and another would tell you it’s on its last legs.. 😅

  • @davidmwood560
    @davidmwood560 10 місяців тому +7

    I had a 2006 Quattroporte. I must have been lucky because in 2 years it only cost me £1175

    • @ruk2023--
      @ruk2023-- 10 місяців тому +3

      There's a difference between keeping an exotic running and keeping an exotic in tip top condition and sometimes you just get lucky from buying a well sorted car and leaving the minor issues for the next person.

    • @simondavies4603
      @simondavies4603 10 місяців тому

      Quattroporte 5 - amazing car! 😀

  • @stefbenedetti9160
    @stefbenedetti9160 10 місяців тому

    Jay, I feel for you and truly respect your love for Italian cars. If it's any consolation, in 1995 I bought an Integrale Evo 1, 3 years old and 30,000 miles on the clock. Derby Green (rarest colour ever??), and it cost me £16,500. One previous owner in Italy, I bought in the UK from an "importer". Bad move!! I owned it for 11 years, and I sold it for £6,700 at 65,000 miles, in 2006. I gave up counting what it cost me after it topped 40k of maintenance costs!! First bill 3 months into ownership; a hugely expensive steering rack (crash damage from previous owner coming to fruition); £600 rack, £1,100 labour!! Then followed as the years went on..... A new engine (6k), gearbox rebuild (1.7k), 2 resprays in 11 years (3k each), chassis leg welding when engine was out, 3 clutches (well, 60 in 5.5 takes its toll somewhere), suspension, brakes and drop links every other year, a turbo (was chipped when I bought it, unknowingly, but only cost under 1k), a head rebuild when the timing belt slipped 2 teeth, 3k after the £1500 timing belt kit replacement at Barry Waterhouse Engineering, a lovely piped leather Recaro interior, electrical fault ongoing analysis, numerous breakdowns caused by said electrical fault, new ECU and so on. The best breakdown was in a Multi Storey car park. Permanent 4WD cars need a full lift; they cannot have a suspended tow from the side of the road by the recovery service; it blows the gearbox diff. So the two partners had to turn up; one in his flat bed lorry which couldn't get under the car park height restriction, and one in his little van. Van driver 1 had to tow me out of the car park, then driver 2 winched me onto the truck, and whisked me away to John Day and TNI Motorsport!! Was it the best car I've ever owned? Yes, absolutely!! K107 OUF, where is it now??

  • @vytas5584
    @vytas5584 9 місяців тому

    I’d love to see this video again, with a diagram of the car showing each piece getting more and more red every time it is repaired during the story

  • @kttk4564
    @kttk4564 10 місяців тому +3

    It's not just the money but also the hassle. My first three cars were (lowly) Italian sports cars and they really consumed my life. So happy for maintenance-free motoring now. There are better things in life than admiring yourself in a shop window as you cruise by.

    • @DontPanicDear
      @DontPanicDear 10 місяців тому

      Agreed!
      If there was a local fantastically skilled and 100% honest specialist, I might be convinced to try a slightly older, more exciting car.
      There never is though, so you find yourself driving all over the country, trying to get the same thing fixed by somebody else all the time. Half the time only to discover the previous work was botched.
      It’s not just the money as you say, but far too much stress and annoyance involved, even if you use the place with the best reputations!

  • @Spenny909
    @Spenny909 10 місяців тому +1

    I found most entertaining the purchase history of the 2nd owner. What a busy little chap 😂. Although, I see a bit of him in me: fixing every little imperfection.
    You want a guy like that in a car's history.

  • @davidpliskin1137
    @davidpliskin1137 10 місяців тому

    Genuinely great video, couldn't believe this ran 30min but it flew by! Would watch something again for other older cars

  • @gson6867
    @gson6867 10 місяців тому +1

    Best music for any car channel !

  • @Spunge1984
    @Spunge1984 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, Jay. Enjoyed that.

  • @cuk5506
    @cuk5506 9 місяців тому

    A very interesting video and as usual very well done. I just bought a 2014 Maserati GranTurismo with only 8000 miles on it and I tried to calculate a TCO for the next 8 years. That includes typical services, insurrance, repair of known issues like the wishbone, etc. but also some savings for unexpected repairs, and what many do not think about is value depreciation. Considering all that I came to sum of about EURO 6930 / year. As someone said on comments early, you better don't add it up.

  • @robertwilkins3043
    @robertwilkins3043 10 місяців тому +4

    That’s about my experience with my 3200GT albeit less made made than the Gransport I would say.
    This is why they are so cheap to buy and why they lag far behind Aston’s or Porsche in terms of values.
    With many owners hoping that prices will rise…I doubt they will until so few exist that they become desirable as Italian rarities.
    Lovely cars but flawed, I’m glad I scratched that itch tho.

    • @slasher9883
      @slasher9883 10 місяців тому +3

      Honestly do not think that these will ever become a serious "collector" car or go up in value. I think these will spend eternity in a sort of semi-exotic no mans land, being bought cheaply by people who are trying to impress on a budget, then being ditched when said people realise these cost proper money to keep on the road. The number of these I see for sale here in Oz with "has a problem with XXXX" or "just needs XXXX to be roadworthy" is pretty telling. They are hard enough to own now after 15-20years, imagine trying to keep one on the road at 30-40 years of age.

  • @davidthomson692
    @davidthomson692 10 місяців тому +7

    Hi jay perhaps the original owner who clearly bought the car to enjoy and clock up the miles ( not a show pony). May have enjoyed hard cornering and the smell of burning rubber 😆

    • @nicholasn.2883
      @nicholasn.2883 10 місяців тому +1

      I was gonna say, if he liked sliding. Tired would’ve been changed every 6 months😂

  • @barrettwbenton
    @barrettwbenton 10 місяців тому

    [emits long, low whistle] Yep, like my mother loved to say, it's not the purchase price, it's the upkeep. Excellent video, Jay.

  • @barnett882
    @barnett882 10 місяців тому

    Brilliant as always and a fascinating insight - cheers buddy and keep up the great work!!

  • @S2000Y
    @S2000Y 10 місяців тому +5

    When people ask me how did you become a millionaire I reply ' because I never owned a maserati !

    • @emiliomoncher154
      @emiliomoncher154 Місяць тому

      You do not know what you are talking about. You are not a millionaire, buy a toyota yaris,

    • @S2000Y
      @S2000Y Місяць тому

      @@emiliomoncher154 unfortunately wrong 😀

  • @terminal-velocity111
    @terminal-velocity111 10 місяців тому

    Jay, brilliant camera work as usual. I know it’s not easy doing what you do.

  • @alanconner9335
    @alanconner9335 10 місяців тому +2

    Wow that's alotta service repair! I need a nap now!

  • @logwind
    @logwind 10 місяців тому +1

    Interesting to listen to. Thanks.

  • @Spunge1984
    @Spunge1984 10 місяців тому +7

    I'm going to guess around £60k. I'd be astonished if the total cost was more than the purchase price. But then again, this is Maserati.

  • @slasher9883
    @slasher9883 10 місяців тому +2

    Honestly do not think that these will ever become a serious "collector" car or go up in value. I think these will spend eternity in a sort of semi-exotic no mans land, being bought cheaply by people who are trying to impress on a budget, then being ditched when said people realise these cost proper money to keep on the road. The number of these I see for sale here in Oz with "has a problem with XXXX" or "just needs XXXX to be roadworthy" is pretty telling. They are hard enough to own now after 15-20years, imagine trying to keep one on the road at 30-40 years of age.

    • @simon_hollins
      @simon_hollins 10 місяців тому +1

      I agree, not a collector car apart from the MCV. Take it from me (long term owner). No-one buys these to impress anyone. ‘Experts’ think they are unreliable and rust. Clarkson groupies laugh about ‘flappy paddles’. To everyone else they are just an old car. The biggest design/build flaw IMHO is the fragile interior plastics and rubberised coating. The early Spyders have a fair bit of scuttle shake - if that bothers you get a later one and/or run the right tyres at the right pressure.
      That leaves in peace those of us who love them to carry on driving them safe in the knowledge that there will never be a price bubble and crash to worry about.

    • @slasher9883
      @slasher9883 10 місяців тому +2

      @@simon_hollinsover here Maserati are still considered somewhat exotic. so people outside the car bubble tend to just assume any Maserati is worth a lot of money, no matter how old or crappy. Quite surprising to them that you can buy a 4200 for 25k Aus, but of course we know what that entails. Must say I often consider buying a cheapo QP as a project, but then I have experience with Italian cars as a mechanic and don't need to pay labour. Any average Joe who asks me if they should buy a Maserati from this era is met with an overwhelming NO, followed by "I am not fixing it for you". 😄

  • @TheBTG88
    @TheBTG88 10 місяців тому +1

    I never thought of Jay as someone who would ride a bicycle.

  • @ForgetfulFoot
    @ForgetfulFoot 10 місяців тому

    Good video. I'm glad I passed on one of these here in Australia. I am sure the parts and labour cost would be far more then in the UK.

  • @iuxanu
    @iuxanu 10 місяців тому +1

    hello mate, It's been a while since you have done a video about the Celica VVTL-i. Times have changed lots since then. I'd love to see another video on that car.

  • @markchip1
    @markchip1 10 місяців тому +1

    My guess is around 78-85k in maintenance...
    Oh! I'm pleasantly surprised!!

  • @theicemario15
    @theicemario15 9 місяців тому

    Well this car has covered well over 3 times as many miles as the average GranSport on AT, surprised the presumably daily driver life it’s led wasn’t mentioned. Especially when calculating such costs

  • @MrAjjm65
    @MrAjjm65 10 місяців тому

    A very informative video - basically set aside approx £3,000 per year when owning and running a performance car. It would probably be about the same for most brands (apart from Ferrari and Lamborghini) of cars from that vintage. You also make a great point that you should always go to a trusted mechanic, the exhaust bodge job you described is testament to that. In conclusion, you are spending approx 42 pence per mile per year in order to keep that petrolhead grin on your face - worth every penny!

  • @ChicagoItalian
    @ChicagoItalian 10 місяців тому

    The Drive by Wire is fantastic - it’s just a matter of getting used to it…it does prolong the clutch life.

  • @miata8148
    @miata8148 10 місяців тому

    This was a really great video, informative and true!!

  • @Tinker2006
    @Tinker2006 10 місяців тому

    Informative video, the car was driven hard in first 5 years.
    You add some bits from rather owner who does his own work, was it all for this car? as you have seats which have nothing to do with the car.
    Also it sounds like the car was vandalised at some point - not really maintenance costs
    And neither is detailing the car…

  • @davidsherrick898
    @davidsherrick898 10 місяців тому +1

    And thinking my Alfa Romeo is a money pit! Yikes, my sister wants a Maserati Levante, I think she would change her mind after watching this video! I'd take the Airbag light disassembled!

  • @andrewf7822
    @andrewf7822 10 місяців тому

    Really interesting. Thanks James.

  • @mustafaoshaughnessy3198
    @mustafaoshaughnessy3198 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Jay!!!

  • @jimmyjt16
    @jimmyjt16 10 місяців тому +4

    In my experience of buying and selling cars, it's ones that come in with big history folders like this that tend to be the ones I have problems with, yet the ones with basic compleated year service history books I have no issues with. Make of that as you will.
    It always makes me laugh when folk cream themselves over big history files. In my experience it generally means the cars had lots of past issues and will continue to cost you lot of money.

  • @kevinokephoto
    @kevinokephoto 10 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic vodeo. I really don't think that cost for an exotic car is particularily bad. My Mazda with tires, service and other stuff is perhaps half of that but basically driving a car is expensive. My Lotus Esprit Turbo, likely about the same cost as the Maserati. You only live once.

  • @jimmerritt2860
    @jimmerritt2860 10 місяців тому +2

    F1 pump will be an Alfa part surely at that price 😎😎

  • @markkillington3394
    @markkillington3394 10 місяців тому +1

    Jobs like fluid changes, cam cover gaskets can be done at home especially as the car is approaching 20 years old. For example the oil change, oil tank and sump is easy access, the oil filter can be changed by removing the front o/s wheel and liner. Gearbox oil leave to drain overnight as it needs to run down from the diff too, when refilling take your time as it takes time to swallow the oil down into the diff and gearbox. Coolant just undo bottom hose.

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 10 місяців тому

    I am a driving enthusiast. I love to take my 214 Honda Pilot SUV on my fishing trips. It is a comfortable ride. Has heated seats. Has satellite stereo radio. I changed the tires, once. I got a new battery, once. Oil changes as the schedule of maintenance suggests. Absolutely, No needed Unscheduled maintenance. No loud engine noises: the beautiful voice of Frank Sinatra comes through the cabin clearly. And its highly rated for Safety. I am the winner.

  • @AMG855
    @AMG855 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a very similar cost per mile for my E55 Wagon. Since 2008 (first receipt) its had £33k at least spent on it. That's 42p a mile.

  • @arizonaridersclub
    @arizonaridersclub 10 місяців тому +1

    We're riding with ya.

  • @OneEyedJacker
    @OneEyedJacker 10 місяців тому +1

    The Maserati logo is the best in the industry.

  • @chrisdavidson911
    @chrisdavidson911 10 місяців тому +1

    new used wheel bearing?
    I understand "it was fitted, didn't fix the fault, and got removed" with some parts, but a wheel bearing?

  • @AWMJoeyjoejoe
    @AWMJoeyjoejoe 10 місяців тому +2

    I bet Ben from dadcars is sweating watching this! 🤣

  • @rogeradshead5846
    @rogeradshead5846 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice work James. I know you are running a 550 Maranello that has a similarly (high) mileage to mine and I'd be interested to know whether you can produce a similarly detailed breakdown of running costs? I'm pretty sure I have most of mine of you are interested to compare?

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  10 місяців тому

      Jack at Number27 actually did a video on my 550, and I'll be doing an update on it soon. In short, it's more expensive than this

  • @paulchapman524
    @paulchapman524 10 місяців тому +1

    I'll have a guess at 18years of maintenance is just a little bit less than the purchase price. Well I hope so anyway as I'd love to buy one 🙂

  • @harrisonrawlinson5650
    @harrisonrawlinson5650 6 місяців тому

    That's actually fairly reasonable, it'd be interesting to know how much was saved on labour by the owner that did a lot of work themselves

  • @Spunge1984
    @Spunge1984 10 місяців тому +3

    Maserati and Tyres. Keeping Pirelli (amongst others) in business since 2001

    • @simondavies4603
      @simondavies4603 10 місяців тому +1

      You are right. I have winter Continental's on mine currently. Ride improvement on the summer P Zero's.

  • @2407booster
    @2407booster 10 місяців тому

    Fabulous content as ever

  • @ashb6225
    @ashb6225 10 місяців тому

    i wonder how many of us could be this honest about our cost of ownership of our pride and joy

  • @samcattell1150
    @samcattell1150 10 місяців тому +1

    What a fascinating video. I've considered an old Maserati, had a few juicy toys in the past, e60 M5, W211 E55 AMG, Range Rover L322 and currently seeking a more comfortable replacement for my TTRS. Always fancied a Maserati but not so sure now. Thinking maybe a DB9 instead 😂

    • @elnyoutube123
      @elnyoutube123 10 місяців тому

      DB9 is going to cost just as much if not more

    • @samcattell1150
      @samcattell1150 10 місяців тому

      @@elnyoutube123 from research I've done, possibly not. Never going to be cheap but not quite the crummy build quality and fondness for rusting that Maseratis of this Vintage have.

    • @elnyoutube123
      @elnyoutube123 10 місяців тому

      @@samcattell1150 I'm sorry what? 😭 I don't think I've seen a single Maserati from this era with rust on it... although I don't live in the UK anymore, but I do live in the "rust belt" of the United States. Over here an Aston Martin costs much more to maintain in just parts prices alone.

    • @samcattell1150
      @samcattell1150 10 місяців тому

      @@elnyoutube123 well if you search around some YT videos including on this channel, you'll see that they rust badly, especially underneath. Aston parts are probably easier to source here as the cars are built here. Let's face it, anything old and fast with a premium badge will frequently help itself to the contents of your wallet

    • @simondavies4603
      @simondavies4603 10 місяців тому +2

      See James comment on this 550 above: the lifetime costs for a Maserati of this vintage are in line with other premium brands. In addition this car is very high mileage, was "enjoyed" in its early life (see the tyre changes) and has then been meticulously (expensively) maintained. This report is actually a tribute to an often maligned supercar brand. You get seriously exotic Italian style, a legacy of over 100 years of performance motoring (F and L are upstarts in comparison) and a brand that is on the up (see their current line up).

  • @peteredwards7872
    @peteredwards7872 10 місяців тому

    A fascinating video , thanks 👍👏

  • @benbuchanan672
    @benbuchanan672 10 місяців тому +1

    Oof. I was interested in this car a few years ago when it was c£14k. Although I still think it was good value, I’m glad I dodged a bullet. Thanks James.

  • @MichaelWilliams-rd9ke
    @MichaelWilliams-rd9ke 10 місяців тому +1

    Is it a sign of something being wrong with me, that I've enjoyed watching a man reading out a car's service history? 🤔

  • @neilturner6749
    @neilturner6749 10 місяців тому +4

    I didn’t think £60k thus far was too bad considering that for a Mazza it’s done Uber high mileage. Amazed it’s still on its original gearbox and not required any major engine work though, which together might’ve added at least another £20k to the outlay.

    • @anastassiosperakis2869
      @anastassiosperakis2869 10 місяців тому

      it's not bad because he did 130k miles, much more than what the typical owner does. If he did 30, then the cost per mile would be really high.

  • @2500BC
    @2500BC 4 місяці тому

    I only have 40k mi on an 06 but have bot had issues. I did the preventative stuff for suspension bits and that’s it. If i drive it like this one perhaps i would have the same things to deal with.

  • @enricogolfen
    @enricogolfen 10 місяців тому

    Hey JayEmm, have you considered making a review of the A6 BiTDI with 313hp or the facelift with 326hp. I got myself one because it is one of the more reliable cars you can buy used and it is a car you can put in my opinion endless miles on it. I own it for roughly 2 months or less now and already done 4000km in it.

  • @trollmanrs
    @trollmanrs 10 місяців тому +1

    I recon more than the initial outlay for the car, especially if they used main dealers !! I keep a xls spreadsheet on all my cars, and I have done similar to you I went through all the history and invoices on my 2011 Maserati GranTurismo, and since 2013 it has had over 25k spent on it !! The previous owner but 1 beared much of those bills, so far touch wood I have only spend 2k at SportsItalia for a major service a few months ago before I endured a trip around Europe in the Maz. Next year I feel some more outlay is to come, rear tyres (god dam those hairpins in the Alps), front subframe and poss front brakes !! eek

    • @neilturner6749
      @neilturner6749 10 місяців тому

      Another commenter recon-ing! Lots of ex-US Marines on James’s site today it seems…

    • @trollmanrs
      @trollmanrs 10 місяців тому

      Thanks Me speelling police.
      @@neilturner6749

  • @Musician-Lee
    @Musician-Lee 10 місяців тому +10

    I recon the costs were higher than the price of the car

    • @neilturner6749
      @neilturner6749 10 місяців тому +1

      What did you discover when you were recon-ing?

    • @trollmanrs
      @trollmanrs 10 місяців тому

      Dick! @@neilturner6749

  • @Bluebottle_GB
    @Bluebottle_GB 10 місяців тому

    I guess more, but only because inflation and cost of living increases means that labour costs will have risen disproportionately in the intervening 18 years.

  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 10 місяців тому +1

    I don't think that's too bad compared the the cost of a PCP on a normal car if you buy an old one that's not depreciatoing

  • @charleigh195
    @charleigh195 10 місяців тому

    Jay please do a video o the new generation mustang from 2016 it cost me a fortune

  • @beanykey
    @beanykey 10 місяців тому

    James, you didn't need to tidy up just for us. 😂

  • @RogueBrit
    @RogueBrit 10 місяців тому

    Preferred the rear lights on the 3200

  • @S-u-p-a
    @S-u-p-a 10 місяців тому

    Get a sorted xk 4.2 base you get your V8, stunning looks and 0 repair costs.

  • @davidvivian596
    @davidvivian596 10 місяців тому

    Hi Jay, quick, here's my temporary, fix for the laminate edging on the top of your Maserati desk. A drawing pin.
    INVOICE £536.17p. 🤣🤣

  • @Nik-do1wd
    @Nik-do1wd 10 місяців тому

    Great video

  • @cfrimodt6160
    @cfrimodt6160 9 місяців тому

    @jayemm I wouldn't consider it essential to mention prices with such accuracy. We would be fine without the pence never being mentioned - it only serves to confuse, especially for large numbers ;-)

  • @neilrice8714
    @neilrice8714 10 місяців тому

    Maintenance will be more than the purchase price!

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 10 місяців тому

    Rough guess, yes that maintenance record will add up to more than the sale price, because over 18 years, £71k works out to £4k per year. Any car like this can easily spend that on average.

  • @simondavies4603
    @simondavies4603 10 місяців тому

    Not sure of the objective here. It is too easy to criticize the cost of running an ageing Maserati but I suspect that the cost of repairs and maintenance for a Ferrari of the same era would be similar. Additionally this car was really hard driven early in its early life, look at the tyre changes and service mileage intervals, and to get to the present day mileage is laudable (in a performance car) without major component failure. I think the lifetime costs are reasonable and the car is a testament to the ongoing reinvention of Maserati. Ferrari did a great job (at the time this car was manufactured) and have latterly provided Stellantis with the opportunity to build on all they have done. You cannot compare modern Maseratis with those of this era, and those ones were pretty good too!

  • @mrdubois4547
    @mrdubois4547 9 місяців тому

    well its supposed to be a collector weekends car, mine i have only changed the oil in the past 5 years

  • @RobIpswichUK
    @RobIpswichUK 10 місяців тому

    £3k a year to maintain an exotic from new, sounds pretty good to me. Basically a 993 you bank on putting nigh on £3k a year to maintain it in good fettle.

  • @chopper602
    @chopper602 10 місяців тому

    My Volvo V60 Polestar would go through a set of expensive Michelin tyres (down to the canvas the first year) in 8000 miles . . .