I have much respect for Xpedition. A friend on mine has a Mountaineer that had module screws come loose and sheared off the drawlength indexing peg on the module, ripping the hole it indexed into wider than spec. I sent them an email with pictures of both cams, and they sent me a new set, no questions asked. I got the new cams installed, and his bow tuned in a matter of a week. My friend was a happy camper!!
Can’t wait for 35” review. 35” ata is my favorite platform. Shooting a Reckoning 35 right now and I am very happy with it. I wish you could measure draw lengths. I’m not upset if it comes in long or short. The information would be helpful for bows like the Xpedtion, a bow that would more than like would be ordered sight unseen let alone shooting one.
Your channel has quickly become my favorite, even over the Podium Archer channel, which is also one of my favorites. You seem to enjoy doing these reviews more, and giving each bow a decent chance of being something great, or something meh. I can sense MFJJ spreading himself really thin, getting burned out, and rushing through his reviews. Case in point was his review on the Bear Whitetail Maxx. He did not do that bow justice and seemed really rushed. He didn't even measure the reflex on that bow correctly. Needless to say, I was really disappointed, but then again, he pushes high-end stuff, so for him to endorse the Whtietail Maxx ($600 MAP) would severely cut into his high-end, high-dollar bow sales. Me? I absolutely love the Whitetail Maxx. I actually bought it after watching your reivew on the Whitetail Legend Pro (and setting up and tuning a few for my friends). I've always been a Bowtech guy, but they're never responsive to my questions or concerns, and that's been rubbing me wrong in the past few years. Case in point - my Bowtech Solution SS will not tune with the string plumb to the riser. I addressed this with Bowtech and all I got were crickets. The Whitetail Maxx, on the other hand, absolutely did tune up with everything plumb and level, and at HALF the price! And they even took the time and went and read my review on this bow on ArcheryTalk! Needless to say, I'm gravitating towards Bear now. I'm still waiting for my Alaskan XT to come. Love your videos!! Keep them coming.
Appreciate the comment. I def enjoy each review, and our goal is to even the paying field on the review front, we don’t discriminate, I also am excited about the bear bows. Will have to wait and see
I started with a 5# hoyt carbon defiant turbo and had pin float. Switched to an elite omnia and its loaded out; cbe hybrid 5 pin dovetail slider, vapor trail gen 7, and dead center 8/6 combo with a 10* offset qd mount and added 1oz to the side bar and its 7.15# and holds solid. My rx7 with accell 5 pin pic sight, vapor trail gen 8 integrate. and a front 8" bee stinger is right around 6.5# and is incredibly stable for a short ata bow. I've done enough reps that carrying either bow for hours doesn't bother me but I will say that I prefer to be between 6-7# bow. I've found I'm most stable finding the correct draw length for the specific bow I'm shooting so having fine draw adjustments has helped so props to elite for 1/4" adjustments. I've been fighting the draw length on my mathew's traverse 28.5 is actually 28.875 and 28 is 28.375 and I find my sweet spot with this bow to be legit 28.5" which I have to twist the cables and mess with string length to get to.
I struck out on turkey but was on several, got real close. Struck out this deer season. I hunted this morning before work. Our season ended today where I live. Got real close on deer & missed an 8pt at 45yds. I dont like shooting past 25 yards
bow looks great but I will save 650-700 dollars and deal with the .35 pounds of extra weight on a lift no way im paying 2 grand for a bare bow.. ether way great review as always.. if a used one shows up for a lot less coin I would like to own one..
hell no I shoot mathews as well as own 1 or more of most bow brands but I do love my mathews bows but no way in hell im paying that for a stab...but nice try @@jakebowden4325
I have a 29" phase 4, do u think the stability and hold is alittle better then the phase 4? I'm a 30" and I find I'm always checking my bubble on the 29" mathews.
I am agree a bow with a little more substance seem to have more stability, one of the good things about carbons and xlite u can add wait where u need without over doing it, one way to look at it, for a light bow with a shorter frame hard to get more solid than this one
Do you think you could weigh it? The weight seems to be the premise of this bow but unfortunately you can never trust the manufacturer's specs, so I'm at a loss in considering it.
@BackyardBows the amount of reflex that the bow has. Measurement from pivot point of riser to back of grip. Idk, some dudes add that into their reviews. Supposedly it's related to stability and torque. Just curious
@@stormchildkennelsjasontrac6749 yes I agree def has plays a factor in stability, reflex also factors into a short brace height and usually increased speeds. Which is what I point out 6.5 bh and below is when your usually sacrificing stability and 6.5 and above is usually more forgiving
It seems the only advantage is the lightness of the bow and with carbon bows and now the Mathews Lift it seems like an overpriced bow that doesn’t have any picatinny or dovetail mounts for streamlining any components. Eh!
I have much respect for Xpedition. A friend on mine has a Mountaineer that had module screws come loose and sheared off the drawlength indexing peg on the module, ripping the hole it indexed into wider than spec. I sent them an email with pictures of both cams, and they sent me a new set, no questions asked. I got the new cams installed, and his bow tuned in a matter of a week. My friend was a happy camper!!
Love my Xlite 33. It literally shoots itself. Worth the money!
Can’t wait for 35” review. 35” ata is my favorite platform. Shooting a Reckoning 35 right now and I am very happy with it. I wish you could measure draw lengths. I’m not upset if it comes in long or short. The information would be helpful for bows like the Xpedtion, a bow that would more than like would be ordered sight unseen let alone shooting one.
I did the same thing to my shrewd stabilizer last night. Took the weights off and tried it on my Hoyt RX4 Turbo. Holds really nice
That camo looks like the under armour forest on my current one.. love that pattern
Your channel has quickly become my favorite, even over the Podium Archer channel, which is also one of my favorites. You seem to enjoy doing these reviews more, and giving each bow a decent chance of being something great, or something meh. I can sense MFJJ spreading himself really thin, getting burned out, and rushing through his reviews. Case in point was his review on the Bear Whitetail Maxx. He did not do that bow justice and seemed really rushed. He didn't even measure the reflex on that bow correctly. Needless to say, I was really disappointed, but then again, he pushes high-end stuff, so for him to endorse the Whtietail Maxx ($600 MAP) would severely cut into his high-end, high-dollar bow sales. Me? I absolutely love the Whitetail Maxx. I actually bought it after watching your reivew on the Whitetail Legend Pro (and setting up and tuning a few for my friends). I've always been a Bowtech guy, but they're never responsive to my questions or concerns, and that's been rubbing me wrong in the past few years. Case in point - my Bowtech Solution SS will not tune with the string plumb to the riser. I addressed this with Bowtech and all I got were crickets. The Whitetail Maxx, on the other hand, absolutely did tune up with everything plumb and level, and at HALF the price! And they even took the time and went and read my review on this bow on ArcheryTalk! Needless to say, I'm gravitating towards Bear now. I'm still waiting for my Alaskan XT to come.
Love your videos!! Keep them coming.
Appreciate the comment. I def enjoy each review, and our goal is to even the paying field on the review front, we don’t discriminate, I also am excited about the bear bows. Will have to wait and see
I started with a 5# hoyt carbon defiant turbo and had pin float. Switched to an elite omnia and its loaded out; cbe hybrid 5 pin dovetail slider, vapor trail gen 7, and dead center 8/6 combo with a 10* offset qd mount and added 1oz to the side bar and its 7.15# and holds solid. My rx7 with accell 5 pin pic sight, vapor trail gen 8 integrate. and a front 8" bee stinger is right around 6.5# and is incredibly stable for a short ata bow. I've done enough reps that carrying either bow for hours doesn't bother me but I will say that I prefer to be between 6-7# bow. I've found I'm most stable finding the correct draw length for the specific bow I'm shooting so having fine draw adjustments has helped so props to elite for 1/4" adjustments. I've been fighting the draw length on my mathew's traverse 28.5 is actually 28.875 and 28 is 28.375 and I find my sweet spot with this bow to be legit 28.5" which I have to twist the cables and mess with string length to get to.
I struck out on turkey but was on several, got real close. Struck out this deer season. I hunted this morning before work. Our season ended today where I live. Got real close on deer & missed an 8pt at 45yds. I dont like shooting past 25 yards
bow looks great but I will save 650-700 dollars and deal with the .35 pounds of extra weight on a lift no way im paying 2 grand for a bare bow.. ether way great review as always.. if a used one shows up for a lot less coin I would like to own one..
I bet you bought Mathews stabilizers for about 500 bucks.
hell no I shoot mathews as well as own 1 or more of most bow brands but I do love my mathews bows but no way in hell im paying that for a stab...but nice try @@jakebowden4325
@@jakebowden4325good point. A lot of archers talking matthews… yikes no way. The lift is way overrated for the price
You shot the heck out of that thing
5lbs total is where i like to be, that includes stabilizers, sight, etc. Anything less i get a ton of pin float
Are they putting the new XB cam on the 31 and 33 too?
I have a 29" phase 4, do u think the stability and hold is alittle better then the phase 4? I'm a 30" and I find I'm always checking my bubble on the 29" mathews.
What target do you use in your shop?
Draw cycle is important if u like to shoot ur bow alot. I don't have a bunch of bows to switch up
Very true you want to enjoy shooting your bow good point
I can’t decide between this bow and the Pse carbon Mach DS have you done a review on the PSE carbon Mach 30 DS ?
Carbon 30 is on the way 💪 can’t wait
I just seen that Kevin Struthers is back with obsession bows and they just came out with a new mag lite bow is that the same Material?
We are getting them in can’t wait
Do you sight the bow in off camera or are we getting a genuine first impression?
I sight in 20 and 30 with the react tech site by trophy and the rest is first shots
Call me weird but I like a certain amount of weight in my bow. If I get too light I lose accuracy. Great bow though and as always great content
I am agree a bow with a little more substance seem to have more stability, one of the good things about carbons and xlite u can add wait where u need without over doing it, one way to look at it, for a light bow with a shorter frame hard to get more solid than this one
Do you think you could weigh it? The weight seems to be the premise of this bow but unfortunately you can never trust the manufacturer's specs, so I'm at a loss in considering it.
Why do you not consider reflex in your reviews?
Explain and little more what do u mean
@BackyardBows the amount of reflex that the bow has. Measurement from pivot point of riser to back of grip. Idk, some dudes add that into their reviews. Supposedly it's related to stability and torque. Just curious
@@stormchildkennelsjasontrac6749 yes I agree def has plays a factor in stability, reflex also factors into a short brace height and usually increased speeds. Which is what I point out 6.5 bh and below is when your usually sacrificing stability and 6.5 and above is usually more forgiving
@@BackyardBows gotcha. Thanks man
They wonder why these ain’t selling😂
Who’s wondering
It seems the only advantage is the lightness of the bow and with carbon bows and now the Mathews Lift it seems like an overpriced bow that doesn’t have any picatinny or dovetail mounts for streamlining any components. Eh!
Valid questions and assessment
And still not as light as bowtec carbon Zion!