Tiebreakers for 1982: 1. head-to-head, if applicable (for ties involving 3 or more teams, head-to-head only applies if one team involved defeated each of the other teams involved, or if one team involved lost to each of the others involved) 2. conference record, If each of the teams involved played an equal number of conference games 3. record against common opponents (each team involved had to have played a minimum of three games against the same opponents) 4. conference record, regardless of number of conference games played 5. net points against all opponents 6. net TDs against all opponents 7. strength of schedule 8. coin toss
Also in 1982, unlike most seasons, the tiebreaking rules made it so that more than one team could be slotted into specific playoff positions with the same tiebreaking step.
The difference here is that, unlike normal tiebreakers back then, where the divisional record was the #2 tiebreaker, that was thrown out and conference record moved up from the third to the second tiebreaker. Due to divisional records being tossed out the window that season.
It was funny that the Vikings made the whole point moot by knocking off the Cowboys on Monday Night football that next week, despite Tony Dorsett busting out a 99 yard TD run. The Vikes would also get a home playoff win (their first in the Metrodome but their last home playoff game until 1988) against the Falcons before losing to the eventual Super Bowl Champ Washington in the conference semis
Of course! I've got a History of the NFL playlist that has every video in chronological order from 1920-present, but I've also got individualized playlists for every year from 1970-1999 that are a bit easier to digest (I'm working on the rest of the years)
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 it's very much appreciated! I am going backwards through your videos, which is a lot of fun (and way way more constructive than getting lost in Facebook) and it's great to be able to binge on a specific subject if I want. As someone who grew up in the 80s, so many computer-ish bells and whistles still blow my mind--it's fun to get used to them but I never want to take them for granted!
For me fall 1982 was a happy time in my personal life. I don’t view this particular season objectively. As. Jets fan it was heartbreaking to lose to Miami 3 times but they did win 2 playoff games . Their first win in the postseason since 1968. I remember so many teams with 3 or 4 wins were in contention for a spot. I clearly remember watching this game too. Remember computers were not as widely used or as good as they are now and no divisions. The Vikings wound up as the 4 seed and won a playoff game that year. Personally for me I was a freshman in college, I made the dean's list. I was the first person in my family to even make it to college.
Fortunately only two 4-5 teams made the Super Bowl tournament. Browns in AFC and Lions in NFC. First time ever teams with a losing record made it. Of course this was because eight teams per conference qualified.
Ah, the 1982 season: the gift that keeps on giving. That's a crazy way to find out you made the playoffs! Those Vikings had to feel relieved when they found out, especially after they handed the Jets that game.
Jax native, life long Vikings fan. So I don't like the Fins or Bucs. Nearly had a heart attack when we got a franchise! Finally a Florida team to root for besides the Gators!
I was 9 in 1982 and was already a NFL nut !! I loved the Cowboys and my hometown Patriots. But especially the cowboys in 1982. Though it was a short year !! What a year. Dorsett's 99 yard run - the snowplow game - the Dallas Redskin rivalry John Riggins - a kicker winning MVP. I just loved being a kid and watching the NFL Today etc.. I can watch NFL footage from the late 70's early 80's all day and night. And thank you for your posts
I don't know if you already did a video on this but could you please do a video on the 1987 players strike? It was the last time the NFL would cancel a regular season game until this year with the Bills and Bengals.
This would never happen today, everything gets super analyzed so even the most obscure for tie breaking situations are looked at well before the week starts
and this 1982 Charlie Foxtrot scenario is part of WHY everything is analyzed to death in advance. JG9 shows that the Vikings couldn't be knocked out of the playoffs in less than 18 minutes; and the NFL can't figure that out in the ENTIRE WEEK before this game.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the off the field chaos surrounding the last Jets-Vikings game in 1979.
I think the 2022/2023 AFC playoff scenario is going to have asterisks all over it. The Bills and Bengals are both division leaders with one week left to go in the regular season. But, both those teams will play one fewer games in the season than every other team in the league. The NFL might have to play a conference final game at a neutral site. It's all messed up.
Your videos are ok but so wordy. You often spend an entire minute saying something that could be said in 10 seconds. This internet criticism is brought to you from a place of love and desire for your channel to grow.
These must have been those days when nobody thought of looking at the exact rules of tiebreaks, considering scenarios, and computing the needed percentages BEFORE the games are played out...
Jets had a good team that year... If they had not lost the AFC Championship to Miami.... Who knows? Kinda like how San Diego had a couple good years from '80 to '81 where they should have made a SB ...... Jets missed on it that year.
You have to keep in mind they actually had to sit down with a note pad and pen and figure out all the scenarios and tie breakers back in those days. Back then it wasn't an instant gratification world. You actually had to be patient and crunch the numbers. Now we have a computer and an algorithm that calculates everything instantly. Even the fans have this thing called the Playoff machine and Playoff predictor that's online that you can play with and do your own whacky scenarios. but yeah, even then, you'd think the NFL would've been a bit more on top of it.
So, I was watching this video on my TV. I was hit with 2 ads every minute (or less) . This completely destroyed the narrative of the video and my desire to continue watching in the middle of the 4th minute. This video and the channel has now missed the playoffs.
Hey bro, I enjoyed the vid, constructive criticism, you talk a little bit too slow. I usually watch on 1.25 speed. Your retention might go up a bit of you try talking like 10% faster
Not a big deal. Conference records has always made a difference. Minnesota was just informed later; which a fopa by the NFL. The other point is it was not a weak playoff. Washington, Dallas, Raiders, Dolphins, Bengals Green Bay (yes) and Jets (made the AFC Championship game) had legitimate shot a winning Super Bowl.
Nope. Nothing. No other games took place (otherwise, this would be a non-story; plenty of teams had to wait on results of other games before knowing their fate). The standings and scores at 7:00 were exactly the same as they were at 8:00
Weren't the Lions in the 1982 tournament with a 4-5 record? The 2022 Lions are much more deserving than the 7th seed this year, but hey it's all fair based on the divisional rules.
So did they not have head-to-head as a tie-breaker that season due to the missing games unbalancing the schedule? Or was it just impossible that the Vikings would be tied with only one team?
The Vikings played only two of those other teams mentioned and won both those games, giving them the tie breaker in any possible head to head situations.
'82 was crazy nine game strike shortened season. nfl couldn't do normal head to head tie breakers because sked was a mess. some teams didn't play their division foes twice (8 game total for five team divisions) plus next tie breaker conf. record was uneven as well. two 4-5 teams. lions and browns, got in. and redskins as became the norm won their first of two strike shortened season titles. the only team to do it. defending champ niners didn't even make the 16 team 'tournament' going 3-6. and jets led by the sack exchange were a factor that season. and remember the vike/boys game that ended season a week later on mnf and got vikes in? 'and there goes to-ny dor-sett'. 'oh no 99 and one half yards...' longest td run until henry tied it.
I would live your videos if you would make them to be 8-10 minutes. I normally skip forward to find out what the topic is and then Google it. I only have so many moments left in my life.
The Vikings: "we're in the playoffs!"
The NFL: "wait? You are?"
Tiebreakers for 1982:
1. head-to-head, if applicable (for ties involving 3 or more teams, head-to-head only applies if one team involved defeated each of the other teams involved, or if one team involved lost to each of the others involved)
2. conference record, If each of the teams involved played an equal number of conference games
3. record against common opponents (each team involved had to have played a minimum of three games against the same opponents)
4. conference record, regardless of number of conference games played
5. net points against all opponents
6. net TDs against all opponents
7. strength of schedule
8. coin toss
Also in 1982, unlike most seasons, the tiebreaking rules made it so that more than one team could be slotted into specific playoff positions with the same tiebreaking step.
The difference here is that, unlike normal tiebreakers back then, where the divisional record was the #2 tiebreaker, that was thrown out and conference record moved up from the third to the second tiebreaker. Due to divisional records being tossed out the window that season.
It was funny that the Vikings made the whole point moot by knocking off the Cowboys on Monday Night football that next week, despite Tony Dorsett busting out a 99 yard TD run. The Vikes would also get a home playoff win (their first in the Metrodome but their last home playoff game until 1988) against the Falcons before losing to the eventual Super Bowl Champ Washington in the conference semis
"Ninety Nine Yards (and a half)!" Dandy Don Meredith
1998 u mean lol
Vikings hosted the Rams in the 1988 NFC wildcard
@@ssjgoat2786 No 1988, The Vikes hosted the Rams, the Monday after christmas in the wild card game
"A game where the Vikings just shot themselves in the foot every chance the got." I've seen that one a few times over the years.
Your channel is so underrated your videos are great keep up the great work
Thanks for making a playlist for your 1982 videos! It was the first season I started really paying attention.
Of course! I've got a History of the NFL playlist that has every video in chronological order from 1920-present, but I've also got individualized playlists for every year from 1970-1999 that are a bit easier to digest (I'm working on the rest of the years)
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 it's very much appreciated! I am going backwards through your videos, which is a lot of fun (and way way more constructive than getting lost in Facebook) and it's great to be able to binge on a specific subject if I want.
As someone who grew up in the 80s, so many computer-ish bells and whistles still blow my mind--it's fun to get used to them but I never want to take them for granted!
For me fall 1982 was a happy time in my personal life. I don’t view this particular season objectively. As. Jets fan it was heartbreaking to lose to Miami 3 times but they did win 2 playoff games . Their first win in the postseason since 1968. I remember so many teams with 3 or 4 wins were in contention for a spot. I clearly remember watching this game too. Remember computers were not as widely used or as good as they are now and no divisions. The Vikings wound up as the 4 seed and won a playoff game that year. Personally for me I was a freshman in college, I made the dean's list. I was the first person in my family to even make it to college.
same for me i turned -20
I’m curious man if you could share why it was a happy time ??
Fortunately only two 4-5 teams made the Super Bowl tournament. Browns in AFC and Lions in NFC. First time ever teams with a losing record made it. Of course this was because eight teams per conference qualified.
@@suicidality2744 wtf are you talking about ? Don’t know how much time has passed since your intervention but plz stop sniffing glue !!!!!
Ah, the 1982 season: the gift that keeps on giving. That's a crazy way to find out you made the playoffs! Those Vikings had to feel relieved when they found out, especially after they handed the Jets that game.
'82 was a jumbled mess but they had to make it work. Fun Fact: The Redskins won their first 2 Super Bowls in strike years.
I feel like JG9 could make a 6 hour video on crazy stuff from 1982.
Jax native, life long Vikings fan. So I don't like the Fins or Bucs. Nearly had a heart attack when we got a franchise! Finally a Florida team to root for besides the Gators!
1982. The season that just keeps on giving
Seeing 1982 got me thinking how the 2011 would've looked had the lockout shorten the season
This great work
I like the white face masks for the 1982 Vikings. Looks sharp
They do. So do the purple ones that replaced them. I don’t care for their current black facemasks but the rest of their uniform is solid.
I was 9 in 1982 and was already a NFL nut !! I loved the Cowboys and my hometown Patriots. But especially the cowboys in 1982. Though it was a short year !! What a year. Dorsett's 99 yard run - the snowplow game - the Dallas Redskin rivalry John Riggins - a kicker winning MVP. I just loved being a kid and watching the NFL Today etc.. I can watch NFL footage from the late 70's early 80's all day and night. And thank you for your posts
I don't know if you already did a video on this but could you please do a video on the 1987 players strike? It was the last time the NFL would cancel a regular season game until this year with the Bills and Bengals.
I remembered the 1982 season had 8 teams in each conference.
This would never happen today, everything gets super analyzed so even the most obscure for tie breaking situations are looked at well before the week starts
and this 1982 Charlie Foxtrot scenario is part of WHY everything is analyzed to death in advance. JG9 shows that the Vikings couldn't be knocked out of the playoffs in less than 18 minutes; and the NFL can't figure that out in the ENTIRE WEEK before this game.
Computers have made it a lot easier to run every scenario.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about the off the field chaos surrounding the last Jets-Vikings game in 1979.
I think the 2022/2023 AFC playoff scenario is going to have asterisks all over it. The Bills and Bengals are both division leaders with one week left to go in the regular season. But, both those teams will play one fewer games in the season than every other team in the league. The NFL might have to play a conference final game at a neutral site. It's all messed up.
I was 3 so I dont remember much about the 1982 season I only remember my sister being born and the California Angels in the ALCS
Your videos are ok but so wordy. You often spend an entire minute saying something that could be said in 10 seconds.
This internet criticism is brought to you from a place of love and desire for your channel to grow.
I felt like a five year old trying to do calculus watching this 😛
I love my Vikings, but it was 1982.
These must have been those days when nobody thought of looking at the exact rules of tiebreaks, considering scenarios, and computing the needed percentages BEFORE the games are played out...
A non-football comparable. in last year's (2022) Formula One season - the bizarre way in which Max Verstappen was confirmed to be world champion!
Jets had a good team that year...
If they had not lost the AFC Championship to Miami....
Who knows?
Kinda like how San Diego had a couple good years from '80 to '81 where they should have made a SB ......
Jets missed on it that year.
16:54-17:48 After looking at this play, I can see why you mentioned that it was controversial earlier on in the video.
You have to keep in mind they actually had to sit down with a note pad and pen and figure out all the scenarios and tie breakers back in those days. Back then it wasn't an instant gratification world. You actually had to be patient and crunch the numbers. Now we have a computer and an algorithm that calculates everything instantly. Even the fans have this thing called the Playoff machine and Playoff predictor that's online that you can play with and do your own whacky scenarios. but yeah, even then, you'd think the NFL would've been a bit more on top of it.
Why did they not just use point differential rather than comparing 5 games to 8 games
So THAT'S why your channel incorporates the Jaguars name, you're a fan of that team. My sincere condolences.
The same Jaguars team that could win the AFC South this year? Condolences?.....
I suppose it is condolences because the past hurts - but the future is (hopefully) bright!
The jags got this. They will win sunday
you mean Saturday
Complete with Al 🐐 Michaels return to stretch his playoff streak to 33
Where are visuals at ? I see a black screen
So, I was watching this video on my TV. I was hit with 2 ads every minute (or less) . This completely destroyed the narrative of the video and my desire to continue watching in the middle of the 4th minute. This video and the channel has now missed the playoffs.
Hey bro, I enjoyed the vid, constructive criticism, you talk a little bit too slow. I usually watch on 1.25 speed. Your retention might go up a bit of you try talking like 10% faster
Imagine that one person on some college hosted bbs server doing the math and bring mocked over announcing no the vikings are in
Not a big deal. Conference records has always made a difference. Minnesota was just informed later; which a fopa by the NFL.
The other point is it was not a weak playoff. Washington, Dallas, Raiders, Dolphins, Bengals Green Bay (yes) and Jets (made the AFC Championship game) had legitimate shot a winning Super Bowl.
Four of the five teams that thought they were in the NFC Central were in ... only da Bears missed it
This is the Bizarro version of Commanders coach Ron Rivera.
Redskins
This really could have been condensed to less than 10 minutes. Especially when nothing really of interest actually happened.
Wait, so did anything happen between the end of the game and when they found out they were in the playoffs?
Nope. Nothing. No other games took place (otherwise, this would be a non-story; plenty of teams had to wait on results of other games before knowing their fate). The standings and scores at 7:00 were exactly the same as they were at 8:00
Honestly the only thing I’m interested in is the blocked kick return for a touchdown. How was he not down?
Weren't the Lions in the 1982 tournament with a 4-5 record? The 2022 Lions are much more deserving than the 7th seed this year, but hey it's all fair based on the divisional rules.
The vikings first year in Minneapolis
If you still have a straight on kicker in 1982, you deserve your fate.
So did they not have head-to-head as a tie-breaker that season due to the missing games unbalancing the schedule? Or was it just impossible that the Vikings would be tied with only one team?
The Vikings played only two of those other teams mentioned and won both those games, giving them the tie breaker in any possible head to head situations.
'82 was crazy nine game strike shortened season. nfl couldn't do normal head to head tie breakers because sked was a mess. some teams didn't play their division foes twice (8 game total for five team divisions) plus next tie breaker conf. record was uneven as well. two 4-5 teams. lions and browns, got in. and redskins as became the norm won their first of two strike shortened season titles. the only team to do it. defending champ niners didn't even make the 16 team 'tournament' going 3-6. and jets led by the sack exchange were a factor that season. and remember the vike/boys game that ended season a week later on mnf and got vikes in? 'and there goes to-ny dor-sett'. 'oh no 99 and one half yards...' longest td run until henry tied it.
Jets as one of the best team...
Im sorry WHAT
It was a THE strike year is really all that had to be said.
I would live your videos if you would make them to be 8-10 minutes. I normally skip forward to find out what the topic is and then Google it. I only have so many moments left in my life.
Wow.
Of course its the Vikings
uh.....SKOL? or is that a lame chant?
This video could have and should have been about 5 minutes long, tops.