I was in Australia for ANZAC day in the mid 90's and the relatives of the WW1 vets told me an interesting fact, is that most of them really regarded the Turks as tough soldiers with a weak officer corps. And that the average Turkish soldier was an honourable soldier to be respected. Just what I was told.
Why would they??. In real life 700 horses and 31 horsemen died in the charge in real life it sucked that the Aussies couldn’t return the horses to Australia
My father served in Korea during the war, 2nd ID on the front line. He told me he had encountered several Turkish recon patrols.,. He told me the North Korean and Chinese were very afraid and intimidated by the Turks as they usually moved in stealth at night and killed with knives. After killing the enemy, it was not unusual for them to cut off ears to get an accurate kill count, to serve as a trophy, and to impact the enemy psychologically.
jemonaco my Aussie friends grandfathers were in the Australian Light Horse Charge at Beersheba and send me photos of the medals awarded I was get scared of it but I’m not now after what I was told by them I love you Australian Light Horse ❤️🇦🇺🐴
In America it's only available on an edited-for-time VHS tape. I believe in Australia it's available in its original length on DVD. You can also find it online, I'm sure.
it was also Jon blake's last movie as he was involved in a car accident after finishing this movie. He never fully recovered and passed away last year I think such a great actor
Well, that should tell people you shouldnt drink and drive. He was drunk as a skunk and hit parked cars on the highway which would have been 110kms those days. As much as I love Jon Blake as an actor, he was at fault. :( RIP Jon Blake.
@@bromide22 he was drunk beyond driving capability. He hit a parked car on the side of the road at 110km and he is the reason why they had random breath testings lowered to .05. I know the case better than wikipedia which is edited by everyday people thanks.
@@bromide22 it happened in my state and the court case was the biggest payout in history and was appealled and drunk drivers were no longer covered under the scheme again because of his case.
This movie was based on a book written by ELYNE MITCHELL who was the grand daughter of General Sir Harry Chauvell. The Australian troops did hold the Turkish forces in high respect. This was given after the Turks proved how tough and gutsy they were during the battles at Gallipoli.
@Lilyjaye73 Awe, I didn't know that. That reminds me of the French army leaving Algiers - the soldiers who ran dog units weren't allowed to bring the dogs back to France :(
At 1:37 is Jon Blake.Tragically badly injured in a car crash shortly after filming ended.His mum now looks after his Quadraplegic needs.Might have gone on to be a Mel Gibson type stardom.
@hutch1111111 After so many ANZAC troops died at Gallipoli, there were concerns that the graves would be disturbed by angry Turks. A very gallant Mustafa Kemal Ataturk said there was no need to worry. "You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." That message is inscribed on the memorial in Turkey to the Gallipoli dead.
Ataturk was the man responsible for the tough and intelligent performance of the Turks in Gallipoli, he alone held the Turks together after so many dismal failures by his skilled leadership. His performance is not fully appreciated by western historians!!!!
its about the end of the movie and i saw a vid here from, i guess an arab guy, who made a vid about the arabs when the turks where defeated and that region fall into french and british hands with some arab sheiks the result was the collaps of all electricity lines and other infrastructures and a great conflict between the sheiks in an assembly which resulted in many arab states
The earlier Christian / Catholic symbol was a Latin Cross with a circle around it and was used on the headstones. (The circle is an ancient symbol of eternity, often found on Christian graves together with a cross. The circle has no beginning or end and may also symbolise resurrection) After the 1980s and the regulation of symbols, the circle was no longer used. Representing the Christian faith, this is the most commonly seen religious symbol.
It's rather complicated. The Serbian government had been informed of the plan - as a member of the the Serbian secret service was involved, but on his own account, and had tried to stop its execution. The Austrians asked more or less for an Austrian investigation on Serbian ground, and clearly provoked the war by a short- term ultimatum to accept this condition, which denied Serbian sovereignty. When the Kaiser in Berlin backed their position, the end of old Europe was sealed.
I miss those amazing horsemen that fought for Beersheba and took the life outta 500+ Turks my love is spreading to some friends I have in Australia this is a great year and movie makes me cry and ill every I watch the ending it’s so sad but great movie I’m watching it again
hey they threw 55000 beitish tropps at besheba all day and in the faiding light 800 australians took the town greatest cavalry charge in history cartied out not by cavalry but australian light house
The machine guns dug in on the hill known as Tel el Saba would have mown down horsemen in minutes. The job of capturing Tel el Saba was given to the New Zealand Mounted Rifles. It was defended by 300 Turks who were now well prepared.The New Zealand Mounted Horse took this position on foot.The Auckland Mounted Rifles did the frontal assault with rifle and bayonet
William Bristow in 1917 the year Australia went to war, they opened their way into Gaza and into Beersheba because their horses haven’t drank for almost 2 days without water. They made a charge of 4th Light Horse and took the Wells for their horses
The "british troops" were commanded by an Australian Lieutenant General, and by Austraian and New Zealand major-generals. A majority of the combat troops were Australian. The defending Turks were well supplied with artillery and machine guns, and also had air support. The "55,000" could not all attack the defences of Beersheba. The charge at the end was well executed and prevented the Turks from blowing up the wells and withdrawing
Interesting point about who started the war. Rgardless whether the assassination had taken place, had the Kaiser not decided to throw the dice I doubt the war would have progressed as it did. He thought he could hold out in the East and take Paris. He nearly succeeded.
Lt-Gen Chauvel of Australia was one of the most experienced cavalry officers in the British Empire, and by far the most successful. His conduct of the Battle of Megiddo after this, and the ensuing pursuit, is considered a master-piece.
I don’t know. It made me cry in excitement when I saw the movie 2 weeks ago it’s awesome Edit: my goodness 2 years? Hard to believe my dvd is 3 years old now
Australian cavalry had experience conducting successful mounted charges against Boer riflemen 15 years previously. In fhis case, they determined that a mounted charge was the best way to secure the town and its water wells before the Turks could destroy them. . The Turks were pretty ragged after 24 hours of combat against the rest of the allied force;
TTTupload Australians didn’t give a shit about Israel, and we still don’t. When the ANZACs were charging at Beersheba, Israel would have been the last thing on their mind.
Henry Parkes I never heard Australians talk about Israel but one of my Aussie friends told me his grandfathers fought for Beersheba and Gopoil it was absolutely horrible because of what they went through
William Bristow Makes sense though considering the LH are brilliant for those kinds of tactics. I'm Scottish and proud of how they used our regiments. The British army itself has fine fighting men their only problem has been Gentlemen Officers who play war with very few being experienced. The Commonwealths, Scots and Irish/N.Irish didn't have as much Gentleman officers in the ranks.
I'm tired of these anti-pom/English, anti-officer comments. All soldiers who face the enemy are scared and brave at the same time, the same for all ranks and all nationalities. For the most part, in those days, the Empire countries wanted to help. And, as regards the officers, most were very young, just out of school, volunteers and trained to lead from the front. They were not stupid - just that they had no experience of industrialised warfare and nobody knew how to deal with that. It took time and lives to figure it out. Don't judge those times with your modern world view. Each one who died was someone's child and mourned. And, if you read a few books on the subject, you'll perhaps discover that Scotsmen and Irishmen were very prominent in the British Army officer cadre and elsewhere in the life of the UK - be proud of the Union and what it achieved.
@@hobmoor2042 Those are fair points. The war in Egypt-Palestine was a cavalry war, unlike the Western and Eastern fronts, and the British were fortunate to have recent experience of mounted operations with modern weapons in the Boer War. The Australians formed 23 Light Horse regiments after the Boer War, since they determined this was the best way to defend the Australian mainland, and these became the core of the British Empire cavalry forces that defeat Turkey and conquered its Middle Eastern empire.
0:22 there is said in turkish ( i guess to the turkish soldiers) that they will be treaten well and that they will have enough food..what a lie...if you watch the conclusion of lawrence of arabia you will see that lawrence visits a turkish military hospital where they dont even have water. Turks lost the war because of backstabbing arabs and armenians which was too much to hold the barriers thats why the turks are more nationalistic (inside not towards other countries) today
Brings a tear to my eye and a lump in my throat every time! So proud of my fellow Australians and just in awe of their courage!
Same here reminding me of when me and my lover from Australia got back together a day later
Guster1973 I am same and I am Scottish
Damm Straight Let's Liberate Victoria and stand up once again to Tyranny fellow Australians..
I never thought we would but it did and still together 2 years later
I’m so glad this has happened to me
My son is 5yo. This is the one movie I am waiting for the day to show him and learn what it is to be Australian!
The Australian that no longer exists. They were the best of the breed. They will remain immortal
I was in Australia for ANZAC day in the mid 90's and the relatives of the WW1 vets told me an interesting fact, is that most of them really regarded the Turks as tough soldiers with a weak officer corps. And that the average Turkish soldier was an honourable soldier to be respected. Just what I was told.
One of Aussie friends was in Darwin for Australia Day and they told me about the charge of Beersheba
off coarse they were...fighting hostiles invading their country...respect from a aussie, Lest we FORGET
Awesome movie--and great true story....and im glad no hoses were hurt during the filiming...good job.
Why would they??. In real life 700 horses and 31 horsemen died in the charge in real life it sucked that the Aussies couldn’t return the horses to Australia
It's good the horses were shown drinking as they did a lot of the work getting the light horseman to the destination
My father served in Korea during the war, 2nd ID on the front line. He told me he had encountered several Turkish recon patrols.,. He told me the North Korean and Chinese were very afraid and intimidated by the Turks as they usually moved in stealth at night and killed with knives. After killing the enemy, it was not unusual for them to cut off ears to get an accurate kill count, to serve as a trophy, and to impact the enemy psychologically.
jemonaco my Aussie friends grandfathers were in the Australian Light Horse Charge at Beersheba and send me photos of the medals awarded I was get scared of it but I’m not now after what I was told by them I love you Australian Light Horse ❤️🇦🇺🐴
Nothing like a Turkish ear collection to look at over coffee!
In America it's only available on an edited-for-time VHS tape. I believe in Australia it's available in its original length on DVD.
You can also find it online, I'm sure.
Contrary to popular belief, the Light Horse also took Damascus and not Lawrence of Arabia as per the movie.
True And Lt-Gen Chauvel's Battle of Megiddo and the pursuit afterwards were a masterpiece
I could watch that charge everyday thank you to the horses who made the charge also very successful Manson real best friend
It is comforting that Turky is looking after those who died at Gallipolli. One must not forget that the Turks also fought with Courage.
One of the best videos I have seen good old aussies
Thank you Anzac!!!
God bless you!!
Daughter Lord thank you Aussies
it was also Jon blake's last movie as he was involved in a car accident after finishing this movie. He never fully recovered and passed away last year I think such a great actor
Well, that should tell people you shouldnt drink and drive. He was drunk as a skunk and hit parked cars on the highway which would have been 110kms those days. As much as I love Jon Blake as an actor, he was at fault. :( RIP Jon Blake.
Mav F Yeah me too he was great in the Light Horsemen
@@Mav_F According to Wikipedia, it was caused by head on crash, nothing about drunk driving, sorry to spoil your fun!😡😡😡
@@bromide22 he was drunk beyond driving capability. He hit a parked car on the side of the road at 110km and he is the reason why they had random breath testings lowered to .05. I know the case better than wikipedia which is edited by everyday people thanks.
@@bromide22 it happened in my state and the court case was the biggest payout in history and was appealled and drunk drivers were no longer covered under the scheme again because of his case.
0:46 Lord knows those horses earned that drink.
Yeah
This movie was based on a book written by ELYNE MITCHELL who was the grand daughter of General Sir Harry Chauvell. The Australian troops did hold the Turkish forces in high respect. This was given after the Turks proved how tough and gutsy they were during the battles at Gallipoli.
Gallipoli was the worst but Beersheba was a victory
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman at Beersheba in the first world war
I was not aware of this. Thanks for uploading this video.
Yes thank you I cried so hard on the ending made me think what the Light horsemen bravely done then I miss you 31 Aussies
@Lilyjaye73 Awe, I didn't know that. That reminds me of the French army leaving Algiers - the soldiers who ran dog units weren't allowed to bring the dogs back to France :(
Yeah when I heard this story of the Charge in Beersheba from my Australian friends I couldn’t handle it
I'd have loved to have seen the aussie flag going up together with the union jack...
I know right it would be an honour
From an Australian perspective back then, the Union Jack was as much their flag as the Australian flag
@LivyIvy7 Jon Blake died on 29 May 2011 from pneumonia. He lived in a vegetative state from the time he was injured in that accident.
Wonderful film true credit to lighthorse men
For this week yes, I still love them a year later
At 1:37 is Jon Blake.Tragically badly injured in a car crash shortly after filming ended.His mum now looks after his Quadraplegic needs.Might have gone on to be a Mel Gibson type stardom.
Bravos Australianos !! vou procurar este filme o Brasil
懐かしい。
all glory to the ANZAC!
To the charge of Beersheba ❤️🇦🇺🐎
I have see in televisione this
emotion. Wonderful the cavalcare australiani grandi super super
R.I.P Jon Blake.
He was great in the Light horsemen movie it’s a shame he wouldn’t be in Next years new version of it
filmed around hawker,south australia
And Israel,Beersheba
I haven’t told my Aussie lover this but he may get upset but I’m there if it happens
@hutch1111111 After so many ANZAC troops died at Gallipoli, there were concerns that the graves would be disturbed by angry Turks. A very gallant Mustafa Kemal Ataturk said there was no need to worry.
"You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well."
That message is inscribed on the memorial in Turkey to the Gallipoli dead.
Unfortunately the headstones of the Australians have since been desecrated by Muslims over the last few years.
Ataturk was the man responsible for the tough and intelligent performance of the Turks in Gallipoli, he alone held the Turks together after so many dismal failures by his skilled leadership. His performance is not fully appreciated by western historians!!!!
@LivyIvy7 I had read about that. Really terrible for him :( I understand the studio actually help pay for his medical bills?
A damn fine movie
Today is the Anniversary of the uploading of the video Happy 10th Anniversary ❤️🇦🇺🐎
its about the end of the movie and i saw a vid here from, i guess an arab guy, who made a vid about the arabs when the turks where defeated and that region fall into french and british hands with some arab sheiks the result was the collaps of all electricity lines and other infrastructures and a great conflict between the sheiks in an assembly which resulted in many arab states
Does anyone know the significance of the grave markers with the diamond over the cross? What do they mean?
The earlier Christian / Catholic symbol was a Latin Cross with a circle around it and was used on the headstones. (The circle is an ancient symbol of eternity, often found on Christian graves together with a cross. The circle has no beginning or end and may also symbolise resurrection) After the 1980s and the regulation of symbols, the circle was no longer used. Representing the Christian faith, this is the most commonly seen religious symbol.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Veterans_Affairs_emblems_for_headstones_and_markers
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_cross
Bear in mind that Arabs and Turks are ethnically and culturally distinct (likewise the Persians)
@hutch1111111 I'm sure that's absolutely true. The Turks certainly fought bravely in their later war against the Greeks.
It's rather complicated. The Serbian government had been informed of the plan - as a member of the the Serbian secret service was involved, but on his own account, and had tried to stop its execution. The Austrians asked more or less for an Austrian investigation on Serbian ground, and clearly provoked the war by a short- term ultimatum to accept this condition, which denied Serbian sovereignty. When the Kaiser in Berlin backed their position, the end of old Europe was sealed.
As Australian solders we have fought in some stupid Wars, I believe.
I miss those amazing horsemen that fought for Beersheba and took the life outta 500+ Turks my love is spreading to some friends I have in Australia this is a great year and movie makes me cry and ill every I watch the ending it’s so sad but great movie I’m watching it again
Most of our involvement in foreign wars has been very sensible.
hey they threw 55000 beitish tropps at besheba all day and in the faiding light 800 australians took the town greatest cavalry charge in history cartied out not by cavalry but australian light house
The machine guns dug in on the hill known as Tel el Saba would have mown down horsemen in minutes.
The job of capturing Tel el Saba was given to the New Zealand Mounted Rifles. It was defended by 300 Turks who were now well prepared.The New Zealand Mounted Horse took this position on foot.The Auckland Mounted Rifles did the frontal assault with rifle and bayonet
William Bristow in 1917 the year Australia went to war, they opened their way into Gaza and into Beersheba because their horses haven’t drank for almost 2 days without water. They made a charge of 4th Light Horse and took the Wells for their horses
@@nicolelawless3199 You are a little wrong Australia's first battles in WW1 were at anzac cove in 1915 (25 April ) NOT 1917
The "british troops" were commanded by an Australian Lieutenant General, and by Austraian and New Zealand major-generals. A majority of the combat troops were Australian. The defending Turks were well supplied with artillery and machine guns, and also had air support. The "55,000" could not all attack the defences of Beersheba. The charge at the end was well executed and prevented the Turks from blowing up the wells and withdrawing
Interesting point about who started the war. Rgardless whether the assassination had taken place, had the Kaiser not decided to throw the dice I doubt the war would have progressed as it did. He thought he could hold out in the East and take Paris. He nearly succeeded.
Someone was shot that’s how the war started
Why weren't the Aussies allowed to raise their own standard after the battle was over?
They were fighting for the British Empire.
They did. Austraians of that time cnsidered the Union Jack to be their flag. as well as the Australian ensign.
Couldn't have succeeded with MSN's real best friend the horse
but you have to remember the turks took no prisoners.
I don't remember that scene in Lawrence of Arabia. Also, can you cite a historical source, rather than a movie?
Happy 10 th Anniversary
Have you uploaded the entire film?
There is a movie it’s called the light horsemen
@hutch1111111 The Turks were the only soldiers who didn't have a POW during the Korean War.
Turks man they’re screwed. One of my friends grandfathers were in the charge of Beersheba and they told me they hated Turks I do too
@Lilyjaye73 D: That's horrible.
@Lilyjaye73
they didn't shoot them voluntarily. they were ordered to shoot them because they were not allowed to take them home.
Quokka they were forced to shoot their horses but only one horse and horsemen made it home to Australia after the war
Who is that Colonel Bloodnock at 0:43?
General Sir Henry (Harry) George Chauvel. During this period he was a Lieutenant General commanding the Desert Mounted Corps.
micks He’s the one who leaded the Australian Light Horse Charge
Lt-Gen Chauvel of Australia was one of the most experienced cavalry officers in the British Empire, and by far the most successful. His conduct of the Battle of Megiddo after this, and the ensuing pursuit, is considered a master-piece.
no prisoners to traitors yes
@happygamestvfun1 it was never Australian's vs. the English
Nah
why did they do that?
I don’t know. It made me cry in excitement when I saw the movie 2 weeks ago it’s awesome
Edit: my goodness 2 years? Hard to believe my dvd is 3 years old now
Australian cavalry had experience conducting successful mounted charges against Boer riflemen 15 years previously. In fhis case, they determined that a mounted charge was the best way to secure the town and its water wells before the Turks could destroy them. . The Turks were pretty ragged after 24 hours of combat against the rest of the allied force;
Back in the day, We owned the night. However, with technology and politics, it's devolved back to the Marine with the rifle.
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They should have raised the Australian flag rather than the British flag.
Or both of them way better
The Australian flag did not exist (officially) till 1947 till then Australian troops fought under the British flag
Australians in those days considered the Union Jack to be their main flag. .
They fought for Israel
TTTupload Australians didn’t give a shit about Israel, and we still don’t. When the ANZACs were charging at Beersheba, Israel would have been the last thing on their mind.
Henry Parkes I never heard Australians talk about Israel but one of my Aussie friends told me his grandfathers fought for Beersheba and Gopoil it was absolutely horrible because of what they went through
Unknowingly, yes. The Australian victories at Beersheba and Megiddo laid down the conditions which enabled Israel to be formed 30 years later.
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10/10 for the ending and entire movie love for you Australian Light Horse
trust australians thats why poms used australiNs as shock troops
William Bristow Makes sense though considering the LH are brilliant for those kinds of tactics. I'm Scottish and proud of how they used our regiments. The British army itself has fine fighting men their only problem has been Gentlemen Officers who play war with very few being experienced. The Commonwealths, Scots and Irish/N.Irish didn't have as much Gentleman officers in the ranks.
The New Zealanders ,took Tel el Saba other wise the Light Horse would mowed down by the dug in Turkish machine guns.
I'm tired of these anti-pom/English, anti-officer comments. All soldiers who face the enemy are scared and brave at the same time, the same for all ranks and all nationalities. For the most part, in those days, the Empire countries wanted to help. And, as regards the officers, most were very young, just out of school, volunteers and trained to lead from the front. They were not stupid - just that they had no experience of industrialised warfare and nobody knew how to deal with that. It took time and lives to figure it out. Don't judge those times with your modern world view. Each one who died was someone's child and mourned. And, if you read a few books on the subject, you'll perhaps discover that Scotsmen and Irishmen were very prominent in the British Army officer cadre and elsewhere in the life of the UK - be proud of the Union and what it achieved.
Hob Moor I love Australians they deserve me now because of what they bravely done for Jewish people in Israel, Beersheba
@@hobmoor2042 Those are fair points. The war in Egypt-Palestine was a cavalry war, unlike the Western and Eastern fronts, and the British were fortunate to have recent experience of mounted operations with modern weapons in the Boer War. The Australians formed 23 Light Horse regiments after the Boer War, since they determined this was the best way to defend the Australian mainland, and these became the core of the British Empire cavalry forces that defeat Turkey and conquered its Middle Eastern empire.
Rest assured our current nasty Right leaning leaders would have no hesitation in using you as here...
0:22 there is said in turkish ( i guess to the turkish soldiers) that they will be treaten well and that they will have enough food..what a lie...if you watch the conclusion of lawrence of arabia you will see that lawrence visits a turkish military hospital where they dont even have water. Turks lost the war because of backstabbing arabs and armenians which was too much to hold the barriers thats why the turks are more nationalistic (inside not towards other countries) today
And do tell us why the Turks killed two million Armenians ,I have forgotton the reason ...?
@@lordmopton They lost cos they devoted their nations war efforts to killing innocent civilians
Gunny Akdo this video was uploaded 10 years ago 2 weeks ago I was celebrating its 10th Anniversary
It actually true many history books state that