DIY - How to make a LINEMAN'S BELT [One handed operation] for Saddle & Mobile Tree stand Hunting
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2021
- Hey guys in this video we show you How to make a Lineman's Rope STEP by STEP showing the rope you'll need as well as lengths, how to tie all the necessary knots as well as giving you some tips to make your Linesman last a LIFETIME. I hope you enjoyed watching this video as much as I did making it.
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I was always trained to leave enough tag end after your knots to put a half hitch in to prevent the tag end from pulling through the knot. USMC assault climbing course for mountain warfare.
Save a lot of time and effort and leave the line sticking out of your knots a little longer - sailors and mountaineers call it the safety, and it should be 6-12 times the diameter of the rope (six times will give you a minimum of safety, 12 times gives maximum safety). No shrink tube or whipping needed, but you can do it to make it look nicer. With the short excess you use on your knots, it's not the knots, but the whipping that takes the load in hard use. Every rope and cordage has a little stretch and while stretching it gets thinner, causing the knot to slip some. That's when the SAFETY is needed ! I hope, you will never have to experience a fall.
Came here to say this.
Is that necessary like past a stop knot too? Or like if you don't use a stop knot?
I very much would suggest using both locking carabiner. Never used snap carabiners for life support. Try double or triple locking carabiners for safety.
Per your remark about non-locking binnres, I assume you have never rock climbed. But I agree that in this example, I also would use locking binners on both ends.
use a small pulley under the prusik added onto the carabiner to tend it up the line. A lot of good ideas can be found in arborist videos, as all the principles and knots you're applying here are very standard to the treecare industry. August Hunicke, Strider Tree, Reon Rounds, Travor In Trees, Climbing Arborist Tom are a few names to start you off :)
Hey thanks for the feedback I appreciate it! I’ll look into them when i make my next tutorial.
And Bino! Been learning a ton from him as my daughter and I get into tree climbing.
Using the prusik and tender, awesome!! But the first knot in the video for stable left side knot around carabiner, I did three loops instead of one.
Nice video & detail. It'd be great to see the finished product IN USE AT THE START to demonstrate its use. Always a good idea for any product, for any group of users, pro or newbies.
I'll definitely be using this technique in the near future.
Great Video. I found a tip from another guy that if you feed your line through your carabiner you can use it as a tender, and then you don't need that extra loop. It works really well but you do want your prusik to be pretty tight.
That was EXCELLENT!! Big Thank You.
Great video, quality work. Thanks.
excellent explanation and filming...thanks friend...Yah bless...doug
BRILLIANT ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT THANKS FOR THE EDUCATION OF THE USE AND SAFETY OF ROPE
Great video
25:00 Prusik Tender
Very good job in both ideas and videography.
Just a suggestion regarding the stopper, scaffold and double fisherman's knots. Would love to see more than an inch of tail left, two inches would be better, so that the end doesn't work it's way back into the knot and potentially unravel as that knot tighter and well seated. Even with the whipping on the end to reinforce it, the chance of the tail coming thru still exists, tho it would take some very heavy weight to do so.
That heat shrink and whipping finish on the tails are wonderfully anal retentive. I'll be doing the same thing. Great job!!
Hey, sorry for the delayed response. Thanks for the support and feedback! We will keep that in mind for our kits, As of the new year we will be introducing a DIY Lineman kit that comes with all the material you’ll need to make your own!
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I would also like to add that instead of purchasing 50 lb. fishing line that if you already own some spectra or dyneema bow string serving, that that could be used instead. I'm planning on using the 030" Halo serving that I have on hand. Price wise, a spool of heavy. 030" bowstring serving costs $25; braided 50# fishing line costs around $19.
Just saying that if a person already owns some hefty bow string serving than there is no reason to purchase the fishing line.
Love this channel!
That's the first thing i noticed and wanted to comment on. I do a bit of industrial climbing and safety is the first thing they hammer into our heads (if you die, do it according to all regulations - less paperwork😂). So the end of the rope should stick out between 6 and 10 rope diameters. For everyone who does not want to clutter the brain, just leave a piece of rope about your palm's width behing a knot. It should be good enough.
Second thing, i would make a shrink tube on both lines. First wrapping them together and then shrinking a tube on both AND a wrap. This would make a wrap bite into both ropes and plastic would protect end of a rope and a wrap. This is exactly how they do it on our equipment (they also sew the wrap into both ropes, but this part is not neccesary).
Good stuff.
Good tutorial Sir.
Thanks for the psusik push up cord.
Great.
P.s. I'll hold u responsible for , well.... nothing.
Good on ya
I think 🤔 that you'd want a Dynamic line for a Lineman's Rope, just incase there is a fall, it has a little give...And if you're talking a 10mm thickness = 3/8" rope, the strength is so strong, the little flex would be better on a body...Just a thought...
I'm going to be using a 8mm static climbing rope with a 6mm accesory cord for prusik for working on a 2 story house I'm painting. Will that work?
Hey good question! That depends on the kind and quality of rope. However for a safety I would recommend using thicker rope.
I was just watching your video noticed you were using fishing line to prevent heat shrink from possibly coming off I would think if you used marine grade heat shrink it has glue on the inside that activates with heat it should hard up permanently without the use of fishing line. Just an idea.
Hey thanks for the suggestion! That would definitely work I just didn’t have any big enough on hand, I also worry the heat required to melt the glue could start to melt the outer fibers but Ill test it out!
Would love to see more than an inch of tail left in scaffolding knot, four inches would be much much better and safer.
Thanks for the feedback we will keep that in mind for the next tutorial !
5x diameter for tails
Great, I followed the instructions and fell out of the tree at 20+ feet and spilled all of my beers. Just kidding. I'm going to save this one for later but I do have to ask, is building your own linesman and tether cheaper than buying them with the saddle? Also would you recommend AmSteel for this? Thanks for the great tutorial and instruction. I'll really have to work on serving the ends of the ropes though. Great job.
Haha you had us there for a second! Thanks for the feedback! Tethers that come with saddles are generally mass produced and made as cheap as possible just like harnesses provided with tree stands, We always make our own with rope and hardware from reputable climbing brands like Sterling, Black Diamond etc. its not so much about saving, more so the added safety along with it. We also always recommend rope designed for climbing and specific knots like a prusik over Amsteel. We plan to have DIY kits to build your own available on our website soon!
According to Rope Access Work & Arborists rules the rope length after a knot should be 10 x the diameter of the rope. The prussic knots bite better on the main rope if they’re smaller in diameter.
Like 10 or 11 mm main rope -- 6-8 mm prussic rope.
Educate your self and check the regulations before you educate others.
This is just a friendly advise.
All the best, take care.
Hey appreciate the advice. My rule of thumb is based off of a rock climbing preference, the prusik rope being 70 to 80 % of the main line thickness. I am definitely going to add length to the tag end of my knots in a future tutorial coming soon ! Thanks
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Thank you, we appreciate it!!
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does the ropeman 2 work well on this line? wont eat it up?
Hey good question! The ropeman 2 should not damage this rope. Its 24 strand nylon which is pretty abrasion resistant.
Great video. Thanks man
Thank you Im glad you liked it 👍🏼
Curious where this belt got it’s name? I’ve been a PowerLineman for 30 years and worked with hands from all over the country and I’ve never seen a Lineman wear or use anything like that.
Hey ! Not entirely sure where the belt got its name however I did read that Linemen up until the 60s didn't wear any safety equipment. And at some point in the 60s they started wearing belts like this to start implementing better safety and that's why its called this.
What is the name of the knot?
After all the heat shrinking and whipping why would you use a non locking carabiner . They don't have nearly the safety strength as a locking one
Actually all carabiners sold for life support purposes have the same relative strengths... considering they are made from the same materials (aluminum or steel, for example).
Closed gate along the long axis is generally around mid-20 kN range.
Closed gate across the short axis is generally at or below 10kNs.
Open gate long axis rating also falls below the 10kN range.
These are just general figures... you can find specific numbers when you look up specific carabiners.
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The locking mechanism of any carabiner does not add to it's strength... but adds to it's safety as far as accidental openings.
In rock climbing as in aboriculture, these locking mechanisms can also be worked to an unlocked position, accidentally.
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Also... wire-gated carabiners are just as strong as conventional-gated carabiners.
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The only issue with using a non-locking carabiner as shown in the video is the possibility of the gate being opened accidentally and it coming off whatever it's hooked to.
At T=13:00 to 18:00; That is not serving. It is seizing. Reference; The Rigger's Apprentice. Brion Toss, page 8.
Additionally, if you really have to use heat shrink, why not put it on at first to keep the heat away from the rest of the line.
the action you proposed for the ends of the Prussic loop line is Whipping, not Serivice. Sealing the end of the line by pressing it against a heated surface will fuse the fibers together and whipping with waxed whipping twine is adequate.
Video is good, but the info is bad. Definitely use a locking carabiner for all ends of a lifeline. Definitely use a smaller diameter line for the Prusik. Load that Fishermans Knot before you tie that stupid fishing line dressing, because as soon as the Fishermans knot tightens, that fishing line will pull apart! Good example of how to tie a Fishermans knot and a Double Fishermans, but still seems like your first time doing it. Spent more time dressing than creating a safe system. Paracord Prusik helper is cool. Again Double Fishermans.
I wish the voice/ audio quality was better. Sounds like the room has way too much echo. Or a poor quality mike.
You really over thought the AJA loop. Couldn’t simple overhand knots work?
Over hand knots will definitely work I chose these knots to make both loops adjustable and over all aesthetically pleasing 👍🏼
Dude, its a LINEMAN's NOT a linesman.
This lanyard is overly complicated, an arborist lanyard is 1000 times better, safer, and more functional. None of the ideas in here are original and have been used in The tree service industry for many years.
Great video